https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/d893f46b1f506a64b485295d29cf949ef43bf580
Yoshida kneels to the JP forums and announces a second Dawntrail benchmark will be released containing fixes to the character creator, lalafell teeth, etc.
tl;dr - fix the lips
Cultists lost yet again!
Giga-Stacey femra players... you made a multimillion corporation fold to your whims... I KNEEL
grim
My response? Grim
Typical, when the JP community complains shit starts happening within less than a week.
I agree and disagree.
JP fanbase is usually pretty perceptive and insightful. In the west we get people asking for more maid skirts and world PvP. Regardless, I do agree in part they're too dismissive of western feedback but again can you really blame them?
I wish the west asked for more maid skirts, instead they ask for more masculine females and male characters in skirts
JP feedback:
>Hello dev-sama, thank you for your work so far. On the whole it is excellent but I have a few issues I wish to raise. On Female Miqo'te [Seeker of the Sun] type face 3, the hairstyle 29 has an issue where it disappears inside the head slightly. Please see my attached screenshot for clarification. I apologise if my point is unclear, and thank you sincerely for your consideration. Thank you, Player-kun.
NA/EU feedback:
>My poor WoL is RUINED! Look at these two identical screenshots and tell me they are different, I DARE you! The game is not fit for release in this state, these changes MUST be made optional or Dawntrail will fail.
NA/EU players were saying devs should delay the game and roll back all the changes or they would quit.
Crazy people out there.
Do the JP really post like this on their forums?
>Do the JP really post like this on their forums?
it's either that or the most visceral death threat you have ever seen in your entire life
Yeah there is no inbetween. It's fascinating.
lol, Japs sperg out and send you death threats when you frick with their escapism. The devs have whined about how harsh they are
The Nips can be just as moronic as your average NA/EU player. Just use google translate to read their threads/messages, even through the shitty translation you can clearly see that they are just as mentally unstable (if not more in some cases) as any other group of players
Last time someone posted a link to a JP forum thread, I read through it and found no schizo behavior everything was
>Give positives
>Gives Negatives
>Thanks dev team for hard work
Not saying you are wrong, I'm sure there is that. But I have yet to find an NA thread that didn't have someone in their feelings about how its #notmyWOL
I format every single one of my e-mails and official communications like jp feedback-san here. It works, too. People like being respected, and tend to respond much faster and better to messages like that than angry ones. Always follow letter etiquette, bros.
Chinese / Korean Feedback:
>Frick you we're hiring a blimp to protest again.
This lmao.
Compare this to the NA/EU forum clown show.
>Aura men's skin has unnatural unevenness
NO FRICK OFF. they finally look good don't change them again
How come JP expansion titles sound cool while we get some B tier Hollywood action slop names?
Shadowbringers is a way better title than "Jet Black Villains".
Okay fine that one passes, but the rest not so much.
on the whole i like that the jp titles have a theme with the colors but individually they're pretty ass.
heavensward > azure skies of ishgard
Heavensward better
"Liberators of the Crimson Lotus" is neat and ties into those Crimson Lotus weapons but I think it's about par with Stormblood as a title (both are a bit confusing at first blush)
Shadowbringers better
Endwalker better
Dawntrail better
English still does a good job of elaborating on the theme of a day/night cycle for "the realm," with ARR being dawn, HW morning, SB midday, ShB nightfall, and EW being midnight or early morning
personally i do think golden legacy is cooler than dawntrail
Now post what the JP forums were like when they deleted kaiten
First time? SE has been doing this since 2003 for FFXI.
That's a cute suncat.
Having seen the US and EU version of constrictive criticism i would not listen to 99% of them either.
>takes feedback into account and works to get something fixed
>"kneels"
Why are you people like this?
Because they actually provide useful and coherent feedback, and not "NOOOOOOO MY DOLLY NO LONGER HAS UGLY FLAT SHADING SHE NOW HAS SOMETHING APPROXIMATING A SKIN SHADER THIS IS NOT HOW I REMEMBER HER REEE *shits self*".
Actually nice to know SE still listen to the actual fans of the game and not the brainless corpo dick suckers that joined the game in shb.
your limbal rings are not going back to the blank autistic stare. Say good bye to your free fantasia!
The new rings look fine, they actually fixed them from the first preview they showed
>blank autistic stare
Midlander problem
Still going to hav to waste your free fantasia while I get to store mine in my chocobo saddlebag next to my ARR free fantasia. Get fricked troony.
Nah my femra survived
You do realize benchmarks are earlier builds and all they are doing is showing they fixed bugs.
>fixes to gameplay complaints take years if they even get addressed at all
>ERPschizos make Yoshitter kneel in a week
remember who runs this game
the power of mentally ills
Troons run xiv
If only Yoshi added a disclaimer that ugly characters will still be ugly due to user fault. The last few days have been hilarious seeing just how fricking atrocious looking some people have made their WoL
Femra supremacy.
Lala x Lizzer sexo
Better make moonies fangs bigger.
>name a worse community thread about xiv left to hit limit
>name a better community thread pruned
really activated my neurons
>pruned at page 9 at bump limit
Kek what a seething b***h
Don't care, my character is fine.
Happy to see they have a quick reaction to legitimate complaints though, that's healthy.
Yoshi-p a few years ago
>my vision is final, take it or leave it.
Yoshi-p now
>AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE NOOOOO CONSUMER-KUN, PREASE I MAKE COOMER CHARACTER FO YOU NOW
>t.
Didn't they re-do the Diadem three times?
>my vision is final, take it or leave it.
this has never been true in the history of this game
if anything the japs shit their pants and give up too often instead of iterating
>Shitters b***h about "Skip soar or Disband" on Zurvan EX PFs.
>Yoshida permanently removes HP-based phase pushing from all bosses in the game going forward, everything is on a timeline now, nobody's allowed to skip phases anymore.
>AFKers b***h about Bozja and Relic grinds.
>Yoshida COMPLETELY excises both from the game to appease them.
>FFlog spergs screech about how its hard to use everything on CD in E6S.
>Yoshida guts the entire combat system and makes boss hitboxes gigantic so all raid buffs always align and nobody falls out of sync due to downtime mechanics.
Game would be better if they weren't constantly trying to appeal to everybody.
>Entire combat system gutted because DRGs kept dying to Garuda's void zone when using Jump.
>Devs literally afraid of telling players to just hold their fricking cooldowns if the fight calls for it.
>Game would be better if they weren't constantly trying to appeal to everybody.
it's like you don't like money or something, anonette
Anon, the few years ago thing is only true for foreign players. JP players complaining has always changed things.
Dude had an aneurysm when people pointed out that the BLM changes to PvP was maybe a bit excessive and wrote a post of the length worthy of novel to justify it. Compare that to the preview of WHM Lillies before Stormblood and him going "you just need to calm down and try it." If you ever wonder why they never talk about jobs unless absolutely required, now you know.
>game gradually becomes worse due to pandering to people who don't even play the game
ShadowBlack folk are the worst
game is hemorrhaging players and need this update to stick the landing.
Nobody I know quit because the lighting wasn't good enough, it was the lack of endgame content.
I've tried to be as positive as I could throught but Endwalker just wasn't it. They fricked up.
>it was the lack of endgame content.
?????????????? literally no fricking raider is complaining about the lack of content you falseflagging homosexual, do you realize how much content 4 tiers 2 ultimates and now fricking criterion is? do you even fricking raid?
3 tiers*
>raiding is the only endgame content
moron
>raiding is not endgame content
then enlighten us what "endgame content" your friends wanted
A real relic grind
Crafting endgame like Ishgard Restoration
An exploratory zone with cool subsystems like Logos/Lost actions
All of which EW lacked. We got a shitty spreadsheet simulator instead.
Good. Its clear that they only put any effort into the ugly races that no one plays while ignoring the other 90%+ of the playerbase.
Just set up my new 1440p monitor after finally upgrading from years of 1080p. Let's see the impact on my benchmark score and if I should start thinking about uprading my CPU and GPU.
get a good SSD homie
That's on a good SSD anon. Running the benchmark again now.
>Average Frame Rate: 65,20953
>Minimum Frame Rate: 41
OOF
I do get it, 1440p looks very nice indeed. But it looks like I'll have to think about some upgrades.
In the meanwhile, what scaling should I be using for FRS?
Do you think your CPU or GPU is the weaker component here?
>Ryzen 5 3600
>RX 5700 XT
They both date back to 2019. I built this rig in 2020 during covid lockdown and all PC components started getting marked up like crazy.
I do think that if I change GPU I'm going back to nVidia.
I honestly don't think I'll need reshade anymore. I was only using it for the LUTs to get rid of green filter really anyway.
I might phase out most of my shaders aswell, to be honest. I started using them because FFXIV looks extremely washed out, but the benchmark trailer makes me think the graphics upgrade will make the game more colorful. We'll see.
benchmark still looks really washed out. the evening scenes are the same faded orange tone, the vegetation on the overworld battle scene looks muted too. the only scene that looked ok was the dungeon
try changing your gamma settings, and compare with the same shader (or lack of shader) as retail
I got results similar to yours and then I added my reshade shaders to the benchmark and it was even worse.
Unfortunately I am too broke to fix my PC so I'll just have to play Dawntrail with bad framerate. Oh well!
>Average Frame Rate: 77,68139
>Minimum Frame Rate: 50
FSR at scaling up from 80% gets me up to this and it still looks really good.
Maybe I can delay upgrades for another year or two.
Buy an ad
Tell me they are the same, I DARE you!
>t.
queue for frontlines on Primal right now
No.
So what killed this piece of shit?
Trannies and yoshitpiss
Because JP players actually went autistically organized with their complaints on the forums as opposed to Western players' screeching into the void of Reddit and Discord.
Western weebtrannies are always seen as 2nd class citizens, don't kid yourself
>ps3 limitations please understand
Seriously?
We're *STILL* dealing with the repercussions of that fricking console.
PS3 limitations still live in the most bizarre places like cities being split into separate areas.
Go back and look at 1.0 it had completely open cities, it was still just as bad if not worse than what we have currently.
1.0 also had copy-pasted corridors as zones. I'm just saying there's no reason why cities cannot be singular areas.
They'd probably have to redo hundreds of quests if they ever wanted to make the starting cities a single zone.
I would be happy if they did, but they probably don't see it as worth it.
It's hardly "please understand" when they're fixing it. Just an explanation of why the character creator environment was so shitty
It's not PS3 limitations.
It's him saying "gomen na sorry we accidentally fricked up and didn't have updated character creation environments. These are the old ones from the current client which were made when the game was still for the PS3 and feature heavy backlighting because the way characters were lit needed to be different to account for their skin being flat as paper"
Yeah. The CC’s lighting can make the faces look drastically different. But in the real-time benchmark itself it looked fine.
You could make it look.... OK in the benchmark CC as well. Definitely not as good as it should be. Most of it created piss yellow shadows and all-around the lighting and shadow-quality was just horrendous. As I surmised, it really was just that they straight up put the old (current live) character creator in there, even though that one was made to work with the old models and shaders.
Not only should the lighting be fixed in the new benchmark, but the environment itself should reflect the graphical update as well.
>/shout why are you trannies
>message doesn't come up
>/shout why are you men
>message comes up
what the frick
oh no no no no
>it's real
OH NO NO NO
based
wish asiaticmoot would update the spam buzzword filter here too
>asiaticmoot lets mouthbreathing fricking idiots shriek about trannies for 8 straight years across all boards with no blowback, bans besides for spam, or word filter
>asiatic austin powers has that shit filtered out within a week
41% yourself
Can FFXIV's combat system be saved, or is it going to be permanently stuck as flavorless homogenous gruel?
I want to get excited for Viper and Pictomancer, but Reaper and Sage were such by-the-numbers jobs that I no longer expect anything interesting.
The datamined new move leaks are funny to me. They're moving away from DRK being a WAR clone so it can be a GNB clone instead.
Granted, GNB is a much more interesting class to copy, but DRK truly can't have its own identity anymore.
Continuation is a very fun button at least. Not the worst thing to copy around
>but DRK truly can't have its own identity anymore.
I'm sure I'm going to trigger the one homosexual who thinks class identity doesn't matter and that nostalgiagayging for SOME of the aspects of heavensward is tantamount to saying the whole game is now trash and everything is fricked, but Dark Knight DID have an identity. Even in Stormblood it had an identity, though the identity was DARKARTSDARKARTSDARKARTS until they just made it Diet Warrior. My predictions for Dawntrail, because I'm fricking psychic.
>Viper will be moderately undertuned compared to NIN because they were too conservative, slowly improves over the course of several patches until it's at least viable if not meta.
>Pictomancer will be okay
>Healers will have their DoT removed, their DPS rotation will consist of spamming exactly one spell
>AST will have all random chance effects gutted and turned into straight buffs.
>Gunbreaker will just get bigger numbers and more particle effects with maybe one more button added to their rotation
>Dark Knight... well it'll just be a budget version of one of the other three tanks
>Paladin will get a couple of neat things that don't make up for its complete lack of damage so they're stuck buffing it for an entire patch cycle until it's almost comparable
>Warrior: see Gunbreaker but with another fell cleave upgrade because DUDE MEME CLEAVE SO GUD
>Positionals removed on all DPS jobs
DRK launched as a tank with a comparatively elaborate priority order GCD rotation and somehow ended up as the tank with the most repetitive GCD rotation of all, with even less GCD buttons than WAR. Genuinely bizarre direction the job went.
Also you forgot
>WAR launches with minor deficiencies, gets buffed into being the best tank at everything because Xenob***h whined on stream and all his followers started parroting him.
gameplay in ffxiv is so dull and sterile that jobs doesn't matter, you could make 3 classes, tank, dps and healer, with 2 abilities and you would get the same enjoyment from PVE encounters
I don't think it will necessarily translate to job changes and not just fight design but Yoshida did comment about the gameplay being braindead in EW and that adding back some stress was a goal. I don't think there is much left to sand down with jobs and hope(cope) that they wouldn't go further if they understand that the gameplay has become snore-inducing.
Is that a suicide macro
Continuation was basically the succesor to Dark Arts. This is at least a return to form if they're homogenizing everything anyways.
>They're moving away from DRK being a WAR clone so it can be a GNB clone instead. Granted, GNB is a much more interesting class to copy
which part of the DRK datamine screams "gunbreaker" to you? those three actions that replace Bloodspiller come from lvl 100 delirium giving us three gcd with new animations that replace 3 lame bloodspillers. that's all. i swear 90% of anons did not understand datamine stuff and are just parroting misinformation.
MY SIDES
oce is funny
that's actually sad.
for the chopped off dick?
No, the fact that this is what is being discussed in game.
>you're just mad I cut my dick off, chud
Grim
>calling the troony a fricked up mistake
based beyond belief
Yup, that's a perma ban for Zoom Zoom
ladies ladies please, can't we all get a long?
>please look at me arguing with trannies in the game
homosexual
lol
Anyone notice how the upset troons never say troon?
It feels like this gen is all about elaborate lighting systems where I can barely tell the difference half the time and end up costing moderate to massive performance. Aesthetically, I was already happy enough when they were simply painting the shadows onto the textures though of course that won't do for an open world..
>Aesthetically, I was already happy enough when they were simply painting the shadows onto the textures though of course that won't do for an open world..
but that requires putting actual effort into scenes rather than plopping objects into levels and hoping lighting system sorts everything out. vagrant story is a rather unfair example, though.
Baked in lighting for games with night/day system would be beyond moronic.
Some job stuff datamined, for those who didn't see it yet
https://pastebin.com/y6m6ce1F
GNB will either be pretty fun or absolutely horrible depending on if they change No Mercy and how.
Any number above 35000 indicates a new skill.
With that being said what the frick is happening to MNK riddles?
See? I called him Yoshi Pushover for a reason
Fix my teeth
I hope the team isn't taking things too hard, there were some very autistic complaints outside of the actual problems
why are these japs having so much trouble updating to 2012 graphics?
Forumwhinesisters we WON
I miss ShB GNB
>THE UPDATE RUINED MY CHARACTER
>their character
behold my MSPaint skills
that's good, will use later
>Re-releasing the benchmark
fricking called it.
I was fine with the updates, but if it gets even better, thats the cherry on top
>Character creator lighting was fricked proven by Yoshida
This fact alone blows the frick out of so much NA Forum lmao
It's not only the light, but keep saying it
>It's not only the light
Yea which was why I didn't say ALL
Why did you think it was a good idea to save comparison screenshots about a graphics update in PS2 resolution?
Because the point of the image isn't the resolution
>le give us a shitty static drawn dot back in our eyes
Thank frick YoshiP is hopefully smart enough not to listen to moronic Westerners.
There's no chance that Viper will be more fun than Ninja. NONE.
They'll have more swag though. Infinitely more sauce.
I'm doing handsigns at my screen. You will be struck by lightning soon.
it will be by default because it doesn't have ten chi jin
Pajeets are like mexicans, the White Man must always clean up their messes.
Uh oh! Looks like you wandered into the bad part of the Black Shroud, and got ambushed by some Duskwight Elezen. Now you have to pay the toll.
The shitty cosplays really say it all
that looks moronic and probably smells as good as a smash tournament
>We never got Mystic Knight.
I hate this game.
yet
What role would you want it? I could see a Tank that shields with magic
I would be okay with either Tank (if leaning on Rune Fencer) or melee DPS using maiming gear. I think I have a slight preference towards melee DPS because I feel tanks already have two spellblade type jobs, whereas melee doesn't really have anything that fits that aesthetic.
Thats fair, I mainly jumped on Tank cause of Magic Shell being the ability
>I would be okay with either Tank (if leaning on Rune Fencer)
>lalafell Ravness
Sexo
>1. Character Creation System in the Benchmark
>Lighting in the character creator was not updated and was therefore fricked
>2. Issues Related to Certain Data and Processes
>There's some fricked shit like neck seams, missing high-res textures that have since been addressed but are missing from the Benchmark since it's an older build.
>We'll release a newer benchmark build with these fixes implemented
ok cool
Weird seeing pinklala without the ears.
i'm bald
well, "uncorrected scaling for the mouth" is a very vague statement
>An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.
I think that is the biggest one the forums was complaining about
frick why are you so CUTE
Thanks, I never played as a lala, but a thread last night requested to post more benchmark lalas. As soon as I made her, something clicked and I'm in love. Gonna make her an alt and play through the game again with the new graphics
Jeet Enix won't fix shit
>herro, this is you new and improved WoL, that rr be 69,99 dollardos gaijin
I unironically like it.
>YOSHIP YOU RUINED MY CHARACTER FIX IT NOW OR I'M QUITTING
>Ok forum and twitter gays I'm getting the team to fix it and release a new benchmark for you to test it
>HAHAHA YOSHIP IS LISTENING TO US? WHAT A PUSHOVER homosexual!
Why is the fanbase so mentally ill?
It's called caring,bootlicking slave.
>It's called caring
He's literally listening to you whining homosexuals and making changes and you're still b***hing. The frick?
exactly, yoshi is a b***h that bow to us femra players, bow to us too you fricking b***h
>Love RPR aesthetic.
>Gameplay is braindead and Literally Machinist.
Why won't Yoshitpiss fix the fact that I was born moronic and I'm a transsexual??? Why won't Yoshitpiss give my life a meaning? Why won't Yoshitpiss fix everything??? Wah wah wah
What does any of this have to do with killing Chaos?
>DRK players hype up their shit job like it's the coolest shit in the universe.
>Level it up.
>You spend 99% of the time spamming a single non-branching combo with the most underwhelming animations in the whole game.
Huh?????
There's a ton of mods that retrofit RPR animations to DRK because DRK animations suck ass lol.
The new DRK skills look pretty cool at least
it used to be better but they made the game easier
Hey, casual here, legit question: what jobs have branching combos? Part of the reason I un-subbed is because every rotation I looked into is just that: rote with no decisions.
If you were an actual casual player than that would not have mattered to you at all.
I hereby accuse you of being disingenuous and baiting for replies, one of which you are currently receiving from me. Casuals do not care about the game's combat system, nor do they read their tooltips most of the time.
Unfortunately even for classes with branching combos you don't make decisions. You pick the combo branch following a pre-determined logic (to refresh a buff, for example) and don't actually engage in decision-making.
Ah, okay, thanks.
I haven't done Savage and only a few extremes, harder fights weren't worth sticking around for once I started getting bored of the amount of repetitive gameplay I had to do. Roulettes and whatnot beg for more interesting job design.
>Hey, casual here, legit question: what jobs have branching combos?
Healing is the only job with tactical decisions based on emergent situations (dps players HATE this)
>Healing is the only job with tactical decisions based on emergent situations
you literally just press your ogcds on a timeline and filler glare spam inbetween whats the point of lying to him.
brooooo this rubik's cube stuff so fukkin stupid all u do is spin plastic
non of that is tactical descisions based on emergent situations, it's all pre planned.
You have never raided as a healer in your life. Sure, you can excel spreadsheet your cooldowns, but that doesn't do you much good when people keep dying and eating shit and now you have to clean it up janny if you want to practice the next phase. Progging savage in PF as a healer is the hardest content in the game.
yeah i dont willingly give myself aids cancer by raiding in party finder sorry, but i have raided as healer, it's literally just pre planned heals and mitigation while glaring and refreshing dots inbetween, i dont know why you are so adamant to say it's anything more, it's like you think a tank invulning to tank towers in the end of p8s amounts to something that makes tanks more than just bursting > 123 spam > mitigation > bursting.
Personally I’d just have my auto attack be dosis so I could chat while playing. What’s the point of making me press 1 every 2.5 seconds? I’m not some spazz who needs bing bing wahoo
>when everyone plays perfectly, you also get no tactical decisions!
Yeah it’s super boring, like being a glorified dot (a dps player).
i'm not even a dps player i play tank, which is just healer 0.5, but guess what, having more buttons to press is fun. pressing your ogcd heals and then glaring inbetween for 10 minutes isn't. which is why people prefer playing dps/tanks over healers.
>but guess what, having more buttons to press is fun.
No, I enjoy tactical decisions. I don’t find pressing a set sequence of buttons fun. That sounds like something to get a bot to automate!
>which is why people prefer playing dps/tanks over healers
There are more healers than tanks at all levels of content.
is this the avatargay whm lala that gets mad every time someone says healing is braindead?
tell me, is the white mage lala in the thread with us?
healing is braindead as a WHM, i actually fall asleep doing that shit
too bad i love playing support classes lol
This is why I like dancer.
I get my support fix while having actual buttons.
He's right but healing game play sucks in this game so it's moot. All buttons do basic things. Sch is the only class that has a semblance of tactical thought into it's kit.
Don't ignore sage.
Ah sage. Outside of zoe/krasis/soteria (all of which are increase heal) all buttons are some combination of heal/shield/nun that have no interactions with its own kit. The dps heal is basically an afterthought tacked on that barely does much. They should've gone harder into having the gameplay be about managing kardia
Sage was literally created for shitters too dumb for sch cooldowns or whm lillies and burst alignment. Addersgall is literally lilies but starting full and ogcds so there is no element of management.
And it's still the best designed and most fun of the healers.
>*cums from casting dosis*
I cum when I cast Pepsis, not Dosis.
Yes, every healer has the hammer one button 70% of the time issue, that doesn't change what I said.
Sage benefits from being designed for modern content. All the other healers have so much baggage and redesigns that they lack fluidity now.
Sage is a great modernization of Scholar with a much better aesthetic lifted from Psychic in FFX-2 and how it handles stacks isn't beholden to the inherent moronation of the Aetherflow/Energy Drain system, calling that "resource management" is more than a little glorifying to it
>much better aesthetic
There's nothing aesthetic about ear piercing flashy laser beams.
>much better aesthetic
The floating dildos are somehow even more trash than “a fricking book”. Not a single good AF set. The whole point of SGE is you can train a dps player how to use it in savage in under 4 pulls.
>The floating dildos are somehow even more trash than “a fricking book”.
Absolutely not, horrible taste. Cry into your mortarboard.
You are so mad.
The SGE aesthetic is kino.
>book nerd jealous they aren't a gundam
Enjoy your job identiy being turned into the fairy.
no no anon. you're not allowed to take situational events into account. the only thing we care about is the dps output methodology
Yeah, which flavor of fricking healing ogcd do you want?
I played AST in Shadowbringers and loved it but then they removed the decisions of the cards and somehow gave the job a healing rotation (lol).
I've heard this, but also that it sucks real bad to play in synced stuff. Main reason I quit was how boring the majority of the content was, which largely comes down to how jobs play for the repetitive content. I'm already going to keep an eye on the BLM at the next LL; I heard it's getting changes and I'm worried it's next on the neuter list.
Every class sucks in synced content. There are very few classes that are enjoyable to play below 70. But I agree that blm is one of the worst when you get synced down. I think monk is better now in synced, since all their skills just scale up into new versions as you level. I don't mind ninja in lower content either since you still can mudra.
The job with the highest ceiling and most optimization available in rotation is black mage.
monk*
How dare SE actually listen to the feedback of their fanbase when they said they would, the other company I worshiped half my life wouldn't have done that, cringe!
When do we get to Chaos? I'm sick of hunting all these boogeymen.
>pretty much mainly just that the CC didn't get updated properly
You can feel the chiding nature of the post in the sense that, while the CC issues are their fault, all the complaining about "ruined" characters has pretty much entirely been CC screenshots and not from the benchmark itself.
insane post, there were so many screenshots of the initial boat scene face closeup looking like shit. the reason why there aren't any comparisons vs the benchmark is because the benchmark areas aren't in the fricking game, but morons will still pretend no one is comparing the benchmark with the game because it looks better
>there were so many screenshots of the initial boat scene face closeup looking like shit.
Yes and it was because those characters were ugly as shit. Characters that looked fine still looked fine.
And the newspost flat says that the CC wasn't updated properly and that was a cause of a fair amount of issues people were pointing out.
They're obviously going to fix some issues like moonie fangs, lip issues, and the like, but anyone expecting half the shit being whined about being fixed is insanely atupid.
more backpedaling already. this is why i can't take you morons seriously, you say insane shit like 'ALL the complaints were because of the cc' and then backpedal the moment you get called out like 'w-well i personally think they look like shit!' or 'yeah actually it wasn't ALL the complaints but it was still a fair number!'
it's fricking insane that you crybabies keep complaining about people exaggerating about the issues and then turn around and do the same shit by exaggerating that everything was caused by the cc. get some perspective you hypocrites
You're getting upset over semantics on top of trying to force a pointless argument.
Sorry that I forgot an "almost" before that "all", but it changes a whole lot less than you think it does. A vast majority of the issues are, in fact, in the CC and not in the benchmark.
Nah there are a lot of characters that look good and better in the boat shot that still look weird under that lighting. I just think the lighting in that scene is generally wack. You can see some similarly wack lighting in the fourth scene on Krile.
>there were so many screenshots of the initial boat scene face closeup looking like shit
Bro it’s a directly center frame picture looking directly in the camera, about the most unflattering angle possible. If your character looks like shit it won’t look good in that pose
Pretty much everybody wins here. Problems get fixed and no, they're not delaying the full game release like morons were screeching for.
Someone loses
There's this narrative going on that there was some kind of concerted effort to deny that the benchmark has problems. Which never happened, lmao.
People saw the technical issues and missing features and said "that is pretty bad and should get fixed, but the benchmark and graphical update stuff overall is really good".
But of course homosexuals need to pretend that "le cultists were just defending it and shoving it all under the rug."
I dislike Pictomancer's aesthetic, but I'm more excited for it than I am for Viper. Reaper shows that they're totally out of ideas for how to design melee jobs. Casters all play differently and are the least homogenized role in the game.
Well they have twice as many melees as they do casters.
I mean, phys ranged has 3 and some people consider them all boring.
>Bard
Keep up dots by pressing one button every ~42-44 seconds, rotate badly through 3 songs, press one button generally after outside of a couple procs/ogcds
>MCH
Has two bars, one being a fire and forget turret and the other turning it into a 121312131213 bot for a few seconds. Outside of that is 123 with a couple gcds to mix it up
>DNC
Reduced damage because permabuff for a target lol. Dances have dumb rng to the steps, multiple slots wasted on trying to be a support, and while it can get a bunch of weaves, it's heavily rng reliant on how much you get to do. 1(3)2(4) basic combo outside of that with little else
I am unsure of what they're going for with Pictomancer. It doesn't have a raise so is it high damage like BLM? Doesn't seem like that would make a whole lot of sense thematically or with it's aesthetics.
They've already said it will be buff focused. It will have raid damage comparable to blm but with none of the effort.
But doesn't that seem weird if RDM and SMN both have a buff and a rez and BLM? Is it just even more rdps and like AST has compared to SCH with only one raid buff?
I guess since the role will have four I'm looking for two pairs of comparable casters and thought rez+party buffs would be one category and no rez+high dps would be another category
SMN is losing the rez
iirc summoner's benchmark datamining makes no mention of its res to boot, granted it's also an abridged list and not the full info for the job
there was a datamine with skill information?
sure was
https://files.catbox.moe/5br0ss.txt
this benchmark is unique for having an "actionreplace" table that doesn't exist in the live game or in previous benchmarks, so we have a rough and incomplete skill list for dawntrail now
I'm not sure how to read this but are those "type" lines upgrades and/or flipover effects for skills?
Yes they denote a skill being upgraded into a new one or being replaced by another skill when certain conditions are met, the actual "type" denotes *how* the skill is changed. "Type 3" for example means it's an upgraded skill provided by a trait, type 2 and type 7 means it changes when under a certain status effect like tank stances or Draconian Fire
Ah ok so reading this AST appears to get new skills to go along with whatever their rework is, probably all related to their cards since those new skills go to Lord/Lady of crowns.
SCH in benchmark is prob the chain upgrade
SMN skill shown in the benchmark is probably the fester upgrade and not related to new summons
SGE's skill is a new ability not an upgrade to Toxikon II
The way they describe it makes it sounds a bit like a mage dancer.
>plainshitter getting uppity again
Hey man I don't write the lore, it is what it is.
>Yoshida promises to address community complaints.
>FRICKING FEMRA TROONS HOW DARE THEY CYBERBULLY YOSHIDA-SAMA!!! LEAVE YOSHIDA ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Huh?
>femra troons complain about some eye sheen
>immediate feedback
>meanwhile Viera and Hrothgar and even new female Hrothgar are still borked with face/hairstyle locks, lacking unlockable hairstyles, and lack of headgear support after 4+ years op complaints
Vieras were designed badly on purpose because of hrothBlack folk, there's actually nothing they can beside remaking the whole ass head and they won't
Nips don't give a frick about viera.
I wonder how many more elezens there would be if they changed the animations for them
based on how much shit they get for their proportions, probably not much
normies can't deal with a fantasy race having fantastical proportions, poor viera were sanded down hard from their Ivalice versions
>Hroth
>0
what?
nvm it's for female only
The chart is female characters only and female Hrothgar aren't availabale to players yet.
(female) at the top anon, they arent out yet
>Miqote the most popular race everywhere
Not surprising but still kind of disappointing
I'll never understand japs love for lalas
I guess they just don't understand how israeli they are
Japs love small cute things and have a larger volume of actual e-girlcons than most places
>says the mentally ill femra
This lizzer is very cute, but what the heck is going on with her boobs?
They look like pears
That artist is into unfortunate boobs
Only the dunies are israelites. Plainsfolk Lalas are genuinely hardworking people.
plainsfolks live off the backs of hardworking dunies
Kek Plainsfolk live in completely separate cities from the dune israelites, get fricking real
>LGBT antisemite
Is there anything more ungrateful in the world? You be getting shock treatments in an asylum right now if it wasn’t for israelites.
Am tired of this femras being trannies meme, I am a good and honest chud.
LalaGODS
Femdom and Black person-worship (viera more than any other race can look blaq) are exclusive whiteoid fetishes.
kek
Jeet ENIX
Fortunately I made a good looking character so I didn't encounter any issues in the benchmark
But I though crunch in the games industry was a big deal? Why are these forum whiners forcing the devs to work overtime to expedite a second iteration of the benchmark? Do they not realize they have families too? Selfish people
Imagine a world where Yoshia put as much effort into answering feedback on job identity as he does on the superfluous.
>as he does on the superfluous.
Is he not doing the needful?
>cosmetic mods will have to be updated manually for dawntrail
>xivmodarchive is hiding all mods when DT comes out, and they must be republished by their creator when they are updated
>most mods are abandoned or won’t be updated by their creator, and if they are hidden it means nobody else can update them either
The modding community is dangerously close to imploding on itself, this expansion is based.
Good.
We've long needed a great flushing of mods just to clean out all the trash and abandoned ancient stuff that lingers to this day.
femhroths will have some of the unlockable hairstyles in game right? I didnt swap to male hroth or viera when they came out but I assume they weren't locked to only four hairstyles on launch
my guess is that they'll release with the same unlockable hairstyles male hrothgars already have, but I honestly I have no idea
>my guess is that they'll release with the same unlockable hairstyles male hrothgars already have
right now, i'm fearful that they won't
but let's hope lol
I believe
in femhroth supremacy
cute
bro...
the benchmark already looked really good for my character so now it's going to look even better lets go
You will be using your chocobo as your mount for the story right anon? You wouldn't abandon your bro in the old world while you go on your first real adventure in years right?
I always use my Legacy Chocobo. Its still my favorite mount. He waited for me to return from the calamity
>You will be using your chocobo as your mount for the story right anon? You wouldn't abandon your bro in the old world while you go on your first real adventure in years right?
I liked the amano detour a lot in ShB, I found the idea of a mount missing his owner strangely touching. Also robes clip badly on chocobos.
le cultists absolutely were just defending it and shoving it all under the rug.
my demands:
increased female highlander, roe, and hroth asses
this is not negotiable
you have 48 hours
>ywn plunder admiral merlwyb's booty
femhroths have the biggest asses as is
I R E L A N D
R
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>the biggest ass in japan
this is sad
just imagine it with the 2b leggings bro
okay but I really need to see this cat in 2b leggings now
This b***h really gon make me download the benchmark twice
If you don't care about the character creation element and just whether your pc can run Dawntrail, you don't need to.
slow internet, anon?
look into the calyx institute if your internet is slow or data capped fair warning, t-mobile are Black folk, streaming video is capped to 2.5Mbps regardless of your actual speeds, look into t-mobile 5G home internet if that's a dealbreaker
Literally why waste time on that? It already does what it is supposed to do and nobody is ever going to look at it again when Dawntrail hits.
Even the most positive people here (like me. I thought the benchmark upgrades were great), shat on the CC lighting and tried to explain that the fact that the CC environment was archaic is probably part of why things looked worse than they should. (Which YoshiP pretty much said himself here)
I also said they should fix the texture and clipping issues and the moonie fang shit and all that, and that the texture resolution for a lot of thing (facial markings and paints) was shit.
Also Hrothgar females only having 4 hairstyles per face. (I dunno if this will be fixed before release, because it just seems like this is intentional and they're planning for a repeat of the Hrothgar M/Viera M&F hairstyles debacle.
This time, it doubled as people's previews for the graphical updates of their characters. Some stuff was fricked, so now they need to fix it to assuage some people's fears.
literally no one in this thread or the archived threads tried to explain that the lighting environment is archaic
Funny I recall tons of posts talking about it
and i recall tons of post talking about the most autistic little details
I literally said as much several times on the day that the benchmark came out.
That the environments were old. The foliage, ground textures, assets like buildings, were all as they are on live, and so probably the same applied to the lighting (and voila, it did), which was designed around the old models and don't play nice with the new ones, which use entirely different shaders.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/673494334/#673498853
me when i lie
>4 hairstyles per face
That's generous of you. It's 2 hairstyles with an a and b variant.
Fair point. But you get what I mean. No unlockable or hairstyles that other races share.
>Ganker spends a whole week screeching about how only femra troons care about problems with the benchmark.
>Yoshida agrees that the benchmark needs to be fixed.
>Ganker immediately starts coping hardcore and going "I-I C-CRITICIZED THE P-PROBLEMS TOO!!!"
lmao
Ganker simply refuses to accept that ffxiv is a femra game and the wol is canonically a femra.
the WoL is a lala. the power of the small surmounting the universe
Because femra troons were demanding they cancel the graphics update when most people's characters improved.
>I fell for bait and this is the fault of female au ra players!!! they're TROONS!!!!!!!
Here's a spicy little secret for you: both are true.
There are actual issues with the benchmark; always were. But also Femratroons are having a melty over dumbass shit
I'LL CRUSH YOU.
>Picture
Was Chaos the best first boss of any raid tier?
femra gays are literally the most mentally ill people in the fricking game, they were not complaining about this shit they were complaining about their nose being 2 pixels down.
Everyone knew it had issues which is why they were making fun of people having panic attacks and nightmares over shitty character creator lighting. Everyone knew the blatant shit like clipping, neck seams, etc would be fixed
Noooo everyone was brushing it under the rug and saying there were NO issues at all SHUT UP CULTISTS
I really hope theyll remove male and female then add body type 1 and body type 2
On here
I'm trans btw if that matters
how many years has it been since they pledged to fix the housing problem?
5?
i agree bro
i'm gonna play a game that doesn't have housing at all
>dismissing the issue
classic disingenuous homosexual frickery
get cancer and die
What's wrong, anon? Sore spot? :^)
Island Sanctuary should just be an instanced house already
i hope they never put instanced housing
>Fixes for DawnFAIL thread
This thread has been claimed by Yo-Kai Watch CHADS.
Who'll be playing during the crossover?
As a shadowbab I have a lot of grinding to do in this event
I think I got all the minions, so I just need to knock out the mounts and weapons
i already have everything and they didn't add any minions or weapons
I got everything the last time so sadly there's nothing for me this time. Lazy rerun.
only my male viera looks worse with the updates. That Chinese comparison pic is spot on.
Prove you actually play this game.
Name your favorite savage raid tier... NOW!
Abyssos
The one that is like super hard. You know the one, right? The really difficult fight. If you don't know, you are clearly not playing the game.
>Can't answer sincerely because he's insecure someone will call his favorite raid tier easy.
Creator was one of my favorite raid tiers and it was easy as hell. All that matters is that the fights were fun.
Eden Shiva was basically a mini Ultimate. Which really has me curious what they're going to do with the actual Ultimate version.
it's going to be easier, all ultimate ver of previous tier mechanics are easier.
I still love all the Titan fights
The only savage tier I've done is the current tier, so that I guess?
Frick p10s though and frick it for having gear I still need behind it.
Eden's refulgence, E8s being a mini ultimate made it so satisfying to clear
the "graphics more important than MMO playercount" update
we are getting eureka3 though
recycled content! thank you yoshitpiss! my mouth is wide open
Where is the hype?
what hype?
>A. An issue with unimplemented high-resolution textures, including those for certain playable races.
Thank frick. Hopefully that means facial paints being so low-res was an error.
probably not much an error but more like by the time they complied the benchmark build those were not done yet. Yoshida even says at some point that some of the issues are things that they've fixed by now but are still present in the benchmark because it's an old build
Well, I mean something that was unintended, I suppose.
>D. An issue with uncorrected scaling for the mouth of certain playable races.
So is this what caused the Elezen and Lalafell mouth thing?
And also possibly the moonie fangs (or so they are hoping)
Would be nice, but it's hard to believe that moonie fang size is rig and vertext weight-driven. Sounds like it'd just be a mesh thing.
But we'll see if it's fixed in the new benchmark. Not sure when they'll drop it, though.
They were all using midlander scaling its the same reason why hair was not working properly
I want to impregnate a Lalafell
>ywn have slow gentle preggo sex with your lalafell wife
Truly Louisoix died in vain
Louisoix was based
>protect the realm's lalafell
>give alisaie and alphinaud a paired arcanist book to make them spend.... lots..... of quality time..... with eachother........
>absolutely had wild moron sex with yda when she wasn't busy being half of a crappy manzai duo
>Loisoix spitrpasting Yda with his finest pupil Papalymo
This is my new headcanon
Why do you think Papy had a fondness to Tupsimati? wasn't just used for magicks...
What's the over/under on a bunch of trannies making a 1.0 dalamud style video to farewell their characters before the prepatch downtime starts?
trannies don't have anything resembling creativity or drive to create
Well damn who's creating all the posts in this thread then?
i wouldn't call shitposting creative
most isn't since most people are seething through rotted horse teeth when they "shitpost" and not bantering or trying to be funny
Shitposting aside, why is there little to no hype?
what's there to be hyped about?
Oh here comes the samegayging and vagueposting
He has to do something because his other posts aren't getting replies anymore.
Just talk past him like you usually do.
They can't post the
>PLAYERS ARE QUITTING IN MASS DUE TO THE SHITTY GRAPHICS UPGRADE
anymore
The funniest bit was begging for a fricking GAME DELAY based on the benchmark reception and instead all they're getting is a proper release of the benchmark
That shit was funny.
"DELAY DAWNTRAIL OR TURN OUR CHARACTERS BACK THE WAY THEY WERE"
Lol.
Lmao.
No, the funniest bit is to come. When the new benchmark still doesn’t make their shit characters look good
There is a subset of people that just won't accept the updates no matter what.
Because they want their flat cardboard characters with 3 triangles for the chin.
How? There is no online discussion, trailer views are dead in the water, no new, nada. Shit's dead
>muh trailer views
Do I need to go dig up the Animal Crossing trailer again
Oh boy I can't wait for Benchmark 2: Electric Boogaloo to be released
Only for a second round of moronic whining to happen and force yoshidder to delay the expac
Yeah, probably will.
I'm just hoping they don't end up ruining the skin and eye shaders to placate these babies.
AYO DIS homie BE FLOATING IN LIMSA!
Grim
so it said that the allagans took over the entire world. did that count the new world?
Of course. How else will there be tomestones for you to trade in?
If Emet has knowledge of the golden city then yeah lol.
I don't think they did much in the New World if they ever even got there, they stuck mainly to Eorzea and the Othardian continent before Xande went REEEEEE and opened a void portal
We know Allagans got to Meracydia (since they are the ones that fricking nuked it into a wasteland) so its extremely likely they got to the New World too.
Whatever the case they definitely aren't the predominant superscience mogul of the New World (Solution 9) due to the wildly different aesthetics and also the Altima symbol floating around in the raid splash
Yea, I'm thinking the Solution 9 people maybe gathered all the Allagan shit left around and repurposed it. And if FF9 plotlines are anything to go by then Solution 9 is probably a civilization from another shard that used their hyper advanced technology to shard hope to the sauce because their shard is fricked.
Did The troony Within thread die already? Damn.
heh
wow models look so shit
surely that model on the left is unfinished, r-right?
that shit looks like a PS2 model, holy hell
Grim.
ok but can they finally fix healers?
They'd pretty much need a role rework. They don't even really have much room to add new buttons to them because of how bloated their healing kits are.
it was fine in heavensward. we had multiple dps buttons for single target and aoe and just enough healing buttons to get by
now we press one dps button on repeat and sit on a million healing buttons you never need because the "healing will be more demanding in endwalker!!" meme never came true
Yep, ARR/HW healing was the best. Then SB started "experimenting" and now we have this shit.
Fluid Aura, an actual healer dps weave, my beloved. You are dearly missed.
It's definitely not a complex job, but it has enough going on with what it has that it's pretty enjoyable.
how do you level as a higher level class? leves? i'm still very much a newb when it comes to the game
finished shadowbringers and by that i mean i killed emet selch or however it's spelt but i honestly have 0 clue on many of the features in the game
Roulettes,Roulette, wonderous tails, deep dungeons are apparently nice to a point, bozja is nice for that level range, and ShB/EW tribals.
cool thanks, i have a lot of duty quests that i haven't done yet, maybe i should go and get those done too, i think most of them are just me doing repeats but on harder difficulty and i have the patience of a 4 year old child with ADHD so waiting 20 minutes for a queue is 'too much' for my moronic ass
shoulda started as a tank then
my tank classes are leveled, some of those duties take 'forever'(15 to 30 minutes) even as a tank/healer
dungeons. the highest level dungeon you can do that isn't divisible by tens (skip the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s dungeons)
Roulettes and wonderous tales are a good way to do it but these are limited daily/weekly. Once you run out of those then the only efficient way left is running dungeons of your level back to back
Nope. You will get jeet graphics and regurgitated slop and you will like it
go play ultimate
t. never healed ultimate.
i quite like my penis and don't wish to see it removed
>go play ultim-ACK
my fricking eyes holy shit
oh you're a good little parse troony.
Now clear it without cheats.
damn youre pumping
this isn't my screenshot. This is a TOP clear with no healer.
Interesting. So basically if you do things right you don't even need a healer at all.
Never ever
The official stance from developers is "If you want to have fun, play a different role".
aside from my moonie's fangs being nerfed i think he looks much better
the freckles and skin especially, no clue if it's just lighting or if they changed textures as well
We don't entirely know right now.
We know some textures are lower quality than intended, which is probably why the freckles and marks around the eyes still look so blurry. Lighting for the actual benchmark part is the proper new lighting, though. The actual character creation lighting is the old, broken stuff.
Cute!
total doomBlack person death if it turns out something dumb happened like a scaling setting on moonie teeth was wrong and their fangs come back in full force
I assume that even if there was an actual problem with moonie teeth that wasn't rig or scaling-driven, they know about it now.
>tfw really like my femra
he better not cave in to the limbal ring trannies, it looks so much better
I always get a kick out of going into ffxiv threads anytime there’s some bad blizzard news. Shit is hilarious, funniest sub-story on this mongolian finger painting image board
Like you can directly follow blizzdrones from thread to thread like they are looking for safe harbor
damn boy look at that topology
Our /Nods are gonna look SO sick bros
A good upgrade in terms of facial topology. Technically speaking, it could lead to pretty vivid and nuanced expressions. Only time will tell if that actually happens, though.
>the inside of the ears still being the same polycount
JEJ though
>ears got no fricking change at all
that's specifically the inside of the ears. I think the rest of the ears are part of the hair
>having a decent thread
>suddenly 3-4 people bust in with OH NO NO NO NO XIVSISTEES OUR GAME IS DEAD NO HYPE WHAT DO WE DO?!
Very organic.
worlo thread died. where do you expect them to go?
It was me I chased them here, not gonna apologize shit is mad funny
>trannies
i'm a guy and my character is a guy?
was unironically looking at dancer when i resubbed, decided to do some disciple/crafting stuff instead and now i'm fishing
Happy with my big cat. Unlikely they'll fix anything to do with their limited race status but I'm good regardless and if they do it'll be a bonus.
the female hroth look a little funny to me but maybe im just not used to them, yours looks nice though
I'm pretty impressed with how FemHroths turned out and they probably benefitted from being designed around the graphical upgrade in the first place.
>player femhroths actually look better than the Wuk Lamat unique head
What are xir pronouns?
wowbuck in charge of separating character gender from voice actor gender
Kate is a wowbuck?
Quit being stupid on purpose.
I do like this hair, but I hope they release with more than 5 options
There's a very slim hope that some of the post-creation unlockable hairstyles have already been adapted to them, but the fact that they repeated face/hair locking does not bode well.
It's baffling really, and the only reason I can see them do this AGAIN after male Hrothgar is if from the beginning, default racial hairstyles have used a different data integer from the later unlocked hairstyles, and Hrothgar are using up so many other toggles of the original character data integer with their unique headparts/fang length etc. that there's only room for 4 hairstyles per head.
If that's true, then the character data issue has been far worse than anyone ever thought it was in the backend and this game simply isn't going to survive another 10 years without a full rebuild and data migration of that backend.
I love the fur shaders so much guys.
Still think it looks best on the alpaca though.
>TRANNIES PAY MONEY FOR THIS
For this, yeah.
>this is what WoWdrones think looks amazing and progressive
muh tolkien, bros!
it's definitely muh tolkien
Ugh what the frick
do xir use the heccin brave trxnsfolx life preservers?
wtf
Of all the races they could have given us and they decided on a third faction of dwarves this is as bad as elves.
I miss when fishing was relevant for Culinarian instead of just being an autistic collectors log.
>for many years, Bard could boost players movement speed outside of combat
>finally, they add an ability that increases the party's movement speed in combat
>Scholar gets it
because scholars are battlefield tacticians
so? Bards are party support that had movement boost tools for years
machinist and dancer had peloton too anon
secondly, bards are actual support in lore, ie providing cover fire for infantry
MCH only got Peloton in SB (and DNC got it one expansion later) BRD had swiftsong that was eventually chucked into the role actions
the point is that BRD had movement boost tools for years while SCH had none, so its odd they got a party movement boost ability
They were pretty open for Endwalker that they ran out of ideas for what to give Scholar. It is after all a job with almost no historical basis in the franchise that isn't "can cast Libra", hence FFXI used it as a stand-in for Sage with having both high level white and black spells and the Arts system.
Almost as funny as WAR's healing abilities blowing the everloving frick out of PLD.
And then they gave Shake a regen effect too out of nowhere.
I still remember the absolute b***hfit WAR players threw when they dared to give it one bad button in Shake it Off back jn Stormblood. You'd think they'd chopped their balls off.
And WAR doesn't lose dps when it heals either. PLD has to waste GCDs to heal. And then there is DRK who can't even heal itself without dying first.
I told you gays Yoshi would kneel. And he did. DT Delay coming soon.
so true bro
october 2024 release like we all been saying all along oh no no hahaha
I don't know about october, but yeah.. Maybe late july/august. No way they can just make all these changes and still test in time for release.
This is probably just more so a case of re-compiling. Most of this shit is probably fixed in their most recent internal builds already.
The Benchmark is an old build that doesn't reflect what they currently have. All theyre doing is updating the benchmark to the more current version not recreating it from scratch. They're not delaying the main game.
i genuinely don't understand how someone like this anon can be so fricking moronic
>fur linked to hair color
>can't toggle stupid shoulder fur off
It's over
>benchmark is full of cool animated cutscenes of your character interacting with others
>game is just going to be standing there motionless and nodding once in awhile
It's not fair...
lalafell
>SCHgay getting upset over being replaced by SGE
Now for the AST rework to upset WHMgays who think WHM is still well designed post HW.
SCH has been dead to me since they removed both all of its DoT effects and the ability to spread them, now it just feels like there's no reason to play it over Sage other than "muh chain stratagem"
not to mention SCH is the "no fun allowed" job where everything fun about it gets nerfed or just removed
>DoTgay
Even worse. DoTs aren't even good gameplay.
>DoTs aren't even good gameplay
they are when they don't frick them up every single expansion
you can argue anything isn't good gameplay, why are combos good gameplay? why are spammables good gameplay? why are procs good gameplay? damage over time has been a staple archetype of RPGs for decades, if you think you can't make it fun, you severely lack imagination, the reason why DoTs aren't fun in XIV is because they keep making them shittier and have no interaction with their kits
dots are fun and is the main reason brd is still the most fun phys ranged
DoTs are only fun if you have buttons that interact with them in some way, just slapping a bunch of non interactive slow tick damage on something sucks.
>DoTs are only fun if you have buttons that interact with them in some way
Yes, that's the point. They're badly designed. They had better design in fricking 2007 WoW lmao. It doesn't take much to make them interesting. They're dumb on purpose.
>They had better design in fricking 2007 WoW lmao
they did't vanilla wow dots also had to deal with the buff cap a lot fricking more, so much so that you might as well not do it for some classes.
2007 was Burning Crusade, not vanilla.
oh my fault i
BRD is the worst offender honestly
>kit used to have lots of interactions with DoT effects, such as Sidewinder and procs being tied to the DoTs
>all of it was removed
having DoT effects interact with the kit is GOOD design, too bad Square didn't get the memo
Ah yes, the "press one button every 40ish seconds to refresh" job makes it better.
Frick outta here with that shit. Bard barely works.
is pushing a button every 30s to refresh a dot any different than pushing a button every 30s to just do damage?
I like DoTs 🙁
DoTs in XIV have been neutered so hard its gaslighting people into thinking damage over time isn't a good mechanic
we don't have a SINGLE job among the 20 or so in XIV that has DoT interactivity, that's not a failure of DoTs as a mechanic, that's a frick up on the part of the devs, you have to be genuinely untalented to make DoTs have NO interactivity with a classes kit, which is funny, because they used to in this very game
"Muh Chain Stratagem" is a valid reason, though. You ever got your dick sucked by a Samurai before?
white mage is the best designed healer
Lol
Lmao
No, they are not.
>durr I press button once every 30/45 seconds
Unless the job has tools that properly interact with dots, including ways to consume them, it's not well designed.
>Unless the job has tools that properly interact with dots, including ways to consume them, it's not well designed.
they used to have this before ShB, now they don't
SMN used to have lots of DoTs and abilities that interacted with the kit, like Fester and Contagion, all of it was removed, BRD used to have a lot of DoT interactivity, again, all of it removed
DoTs aren't boring, the devs deliberately make them boring and people think DoTs as a whole aren't fun, other games have DoT classes and they are fun as frick, even WoW does this better
My idea for a DoT job was a job that tags an enemy with their DoTs, then 10-15 seconds later the buttons light back up and you get to turn them into big explosions or poison or whatever.
This is dot compatability that would make it interesting.
A handful of fricking filler skills that do more damage because you have a dot up isn't actual interaction.
>A handful of fricking filler skills that do more damage because you have a dot up isn't actual interaction
It is, by like, every single metric you can measure it by
>using a mit skill and taking less damage from an enemy attack isn't actual mitigation
SGE is literally for when you want to raid and none of your fc buddies is able to play SCH.
My entire fc is dead and nobody is returning
music for this feel?
"trans trans i'm trans you're trans we're all trans trans trans trans trans 41% that's a man"
How do you end up like this?
Unironic internet culture war brainrot. Their minds are permabroken, and they can only perceive things in terms of "troony" and "non-troony".
same shit as around 2013-2014 when these same kinds of guys could only think in terms of "cuck" and "not cuck"
Honestly, I think it's as much astroturfing as it is legitimate brainrotted culturecucks doing that shit.
oh yeah no there's a metric frickton of christian fundamentalist and right-wing think tank astroturfing on that front, it's really not hard to verify where all the I HATE TROONS stuff is coming from
You're such an insidious gaslighting frick
Challenge: don't sperg out when suggesting that 24/7 "troony troony troony troony" spam is sourced in a think-tank or other dedicated group
Challenge : don't corrode the universe with your mental illness and then *pretend* to be the sane one when you're attacked for your perpetual evil
>no u
Lost bigly, horrible banter game
>They are back on the delay narrative
Our Raubahn is better, xivvies.
Do you know where the shrine of Chaos is?
sorry who the frick is this?
Why, it’s none other than the lost half-elven daughter of Anduin Lothar, Faerin Lothar.
WOW! I wonder where she was all this time when nobody ever mentioned her! Must have been really well hidden!
jesus christ
stauffenberg himself
>black
>woman
>disabled
Just make it a troony and you've got the Ultimate Progressive Chimera
Look at the ears.
She also has elf ears so that means she's a halfbreed so it's probably the "you're a mutt" racism narrative as well.
something something kate bozja demystification meta trance
The gutting of SCH and AST over the years was done to appease WHMgays and no one else. WHM players ruined the entire healing role.
bro your job references fricking orran durai and exists for no other purpose but to reference him
AST was originally chemist and cards were mix. They changed it because MCH was already finished and they didn't want 2 tech jobs in ishgard.
They changed Chemist because they couldn't make its animations not look stupid iirc, also Alchemist is a crafter.
Chemist has been a combat job long before alchemist existed in the series.
Not the point in even the slightest.
Au Ra butts.
My friend, this is a void where a butt should exist.
Meanwhile, in FF XI character creator vs ingame.
the hi-def version on the left is haunting
i use this model with the blonde hair. the in game versions look so much better its bizarre they did this lol
Choosing this cutscene face was the biggest mistake of my XI life
you better not be a c**ty elvaan when i get home
Its wild that STILL there is no site that clearly shows the cutscene faces versus in-game. I just tried and failed.
I used a tumblr post to pick what i wanted to look like, funny enough. They had all the face types on it
Guys I think YoshiP is about to go nuclear. They stole his thing.
Ah sweet. Now "more of the same" will be le good.
isn't it fricking great how when it comes from an eastern developer it's an inexcusable lazy travesty but when it comes from a western developer it's a great thing to not shake things up too much
WoW hasn't been doing it for 10 years and counting
Name 1 unique piece of content from dt
why is it lazy when ziv does it and it's not lazy when wow does it
Name 1 unique piece of content from dt
name five wow classes that aren't jackie chan
Concession accepted
Go and look at the extensive class work WoW is doing for an expansion compared to xiv
It's laughable
grim
what is dawntrail delivering?
troony cats
these aren't cats???
fix your eyes
this is so stunning and brave, I salute WoWsisters
>we get cat women and a graphical update
>they get reskinned troony dwarves with crystal tumors
the bullying is too heavy please ion stop this from happening
>XIV is chud central
>WoW is progressive and inclusive
XIV lost
Frick.
It's over... we XIVchuds must kneel to the based progressive WoWgods...
Its over...we weren't even nominated...
>WoW gets awards for its queer inclusivity and representation
>XIV doesn't
what's our response?
>>XIV is chud central
graphical updates
female hrothgar
forays
cosmic exploration
new alliance raid
new regular raids
new variant and criterion
just off the top of my head 🙂
what's a foray? I must have missed this
Eureka/Bozja
>graphical updates
jeet slop
>female hrothgar
female version of a race with minimal customization options is now content
>forays
same old
>cosmic exploration
same old
>new alliance raid
same old
>new regular raids
same old
>new variant and criterion
same old
>just off the top of my head 🙂
NAME 1 UNIQUE THING YOU FRICKING moronic troony
baby's mad
>IT DOESNT COUUUNT
lolling
lmaoing
Name 1 unique piece of content coming in dt
It's a very simple question
Name it
Cosmic exploration. 🙂
Also Black this was about how anemic the features in The Woman Within are. I know you're coping hard because everyone shits in your rotting axe wound all day, but try to keep up.
i can't pls stop bully
This isn't wow where you just Datamine the entire game 8 months before launch. There's the deep dungeon rework and a new type of content they won't reveal announced at the euro fanfest.
Also beastmaster
>beastmaster
Not unique + half assed + released in 7.3 which is 2 years from now
>Cosmic exploration
Not unique
Name 1 unique piece of content from dt
>Not unique
It's literally a new feature, troon. I know your head is all cooked from HRT and trying to defend your laughing stock of a game that is widely mocked by all of Ganker but come on.
Its literally BLU in a new hat, don't fricking kid yourself
I was talking about cosmic exploration, troon.
Your neurons are fried, this is so sad.
>Cosmic exploration
Rehashed
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Ishgardian_Restoration
Name 1 unique feature of dt
>Rehashed
Oh yeah, you know.
Just like WQs are rehashed regular quests and not not their own feature.
Just like raids are rehashed dungeons, because it's also set in its own zone and you also engage in PvE battle with bosses there.
You're so high on the cope it isn't even real anymore.
Name 1 unique piece of content from dt, troon
>it's not different or new because I say so even if it is
Okay. Every dungeon is the same and every raid is also the same as every dungeon because you kill mobs and bosses in both. Good to clear that up.
>it just doesn't count
>BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T
Poor and grim showing.
>these crafting turn-in quests are totally different from those other crafting turn-in quests because... th-they just are, okay? stop being transphobic
lolmao
Mad because btfo. Kek. Fricking thin skinned troons
I don't know what Delves are but I've instantly made an assumption in my head that they're as shit as MoPs Scenarios or BfA's Islands.
they just sound like shittier/less committal versions of variant&criterion
This is a final fantasy thread
If you want to talk about The Bore Within please do so elsewhere.
There is a Woman Within thread up.
But WoW is getting mocked there so it's no surprise that the wowtroons all flocked here.
As someone who enjoys XIV giving me more of the same thing I enjoy on a consistent, I appreciate this narrative. Maybe the horking WoWbucks will stop trying to spin it as a negative now.
Jk they'll find some way for why it's "totally different".
Watch them put homie-elves everywhere in the silvermoon rebuild
Raggle fraggle.
Ah! Someone help me!
why the frick do I remember this
Because it was a good show.
They're not giving upgraded skills at 100.
>tfw dps autists want to infect my role with platespinning and pointless complexity
>tfw even if they got what they wanted they wouldn't heal anyway since they're too scared to have the party rely on them meaningfully
last post for smolafells
Shut the frick up moron. We've seen your performance.
humilitation ritual
Just because complexity exists in any job doesn't mean you need to engage with it at all.
Monk is pretty complicated yet if all you want to do is press Demolish until the end of the fight, if you're being carried through duty roulettes or story mode content it literally doesn't matter.
If you aren't doing high end content, no change affects you. Nobody is talking about you. You aren't involved. Your opinion doesn't matter.
>1 2 3 is complexity
This is what dps morons believe.
>pressing ogcds on a timeline is complexity
this is what healing morons believe
No I agree with you: when everyone plays perfectly, being a healer is just rote memorization of a timeline. Same as how DPS always play.
this expansion there was barely any points where you didnt just wipe for fricking up, theres no inbetween anymore, you either play almost perfectly and clear the fight or you wipe. so i dont get why people keep using this "play perfectly" reasoning.
They just need to take raise off of smn and rdm.
If healers were pushed to heal more, encounters would have less hp.
Enrage is a shit mechanic anyways.
> this expansion there was barely any points where you didnt just wipe for fricking up, theres no inbetween anymore, you either play almost perfectly and clear the fight or you wipe. so i dont get why people keep using this "play perfectly" reasoning.
No, there really isn’t that many “do perfectly or everyone dies” mechanics. Usually 1 per extreme, lots of “do or your partner dies” on savage, but there is plenty of mechanics that were survivable with a skilled healer.
>No, there really isn’t that many “do perfectly or everyone dies” mechanics
did you fricking play this expansions savage??????????????
Nah man. The majority of Savage mechanics explode now if a single person goes down.
For example: you can survive p10s turrets if you miss a tower, you can survive silkspit with only one platform, etc. People are dps brained so they usually give up and die to emergent situations.
One tower, yes.
But you also cascade towards a wipe if someone fricks up on turret aiming itself.
And there's a whole lot of other mechanics that do just kill you there.
Except, you know, for all those mechanics that if someone is dead or even mid reviving as they start, you just auto fail.
Play the fricking game.
healer players unironically believe they are saving a group from fricking up snake 2
More complex than 111111111 at the very fricking least.
Which still wouldn't be a problem if healing wasn't so fricking neutered by ogcds.
You don't even have an argument for healing being fine, eat shit.
Why are healtards obsessed with this notion that people want to give melee combos to healers? The former healer design people clamor for was DoT-centric.
>it's only the dps that want healer to be less boring
Frick off moron. One of my primary jobs is Sage and it's fricking boring hammering Diosis 15 times a minute. Especially once you're far enough into a fight that the first four minutes are mindless filler mechanics until you get back to prog point.
so it was this lalafell seething about people calling healer braindead
FFXIV healers are damage dealers by lore, and by design prior to shadowbringers. Currently all 4 are homogenised to have the WHM rotation, we just want them to have some more flavour again like they used to.
Since you don't even do extremes, giving healers an extra 3 damage buttons each would have no effect on your gameplay experience, so you don't need to defend SE's honour on this matter.
>FFXIV healers are damage dealers by lore
>there are players that STILL just stand there and healbot
you seem to be arguing with someone who doesn't exist. why can you only reply to the strawman you made in your head
>someone who doesn't exist
I wish, would improve these threads a bit tbqh
How do you manage to have completely moronic takes on anything combat related so consistently? For how much faux apathy you flaunt over how little you care about the high end it sure lives rent free in your head
Every single thread btw
why do you care if you dont play at a high end or even at a basic end
just hit glare homie nobody will judge you
stick to posting autistic measurements of your character and baiting the thread coomers to drool over your character more that's the only attention you crave here you weird freak
have a nice day newbie.
FFXIV was at its best when its healer design accepted that FFXIV healers are DPS hybrids.
XIV just needs more kit interactivity between healing and damaging and ways for heals to interact with eachel other to help make it more interesting.
what is your job getting at 100?
Looks like I summon mufrickin Nidhogg for an attack. Very surprised they kept the Nidhogg theme for DRG since Wyrmwind, Coerthan Torment and that Doom Spike upgrade seemed like it was drifting away from that. I get a Nidhogg themed upgrade to Drachen Armor mixed with FFXI's Drachen Armor too so that's a plus.
Stardiver 2
Ogi Namikiri 2
Primal Rend 2
etc. you get the point
>Fell Cleave
>Feller Cleave
>Feller'er Cleave
>Fellest Cleave
I both love and hate WAR for this
I will say it again, MCH gets automaton king that does AoE like the old bishop turret
>automaton king
bro...
(You) are the king, there can't be a king automaton
Then make it the Automaton Estranged Relative tm
>Automaton cousin thrice removed
i still don't get why would you want healers to be more complex without any benefits
people say give them a combo ok but the combo should do something special it shouldn't be a 1-2-3 just to be a 1-2-3 and then have you put on xivcombo and just do 1 repeatedly
i like sage because it can heal while attacking but maybe healers shouldn't be more complex to play but rather have more depth in their gameplay, add actual healing combos
everyone just says complexity but they never elaborate on it and keep in mind, you get 1-2-3 or have to juggle dots but at the end of the day (You) are still going to go for no gcd heals
healers should just be more than just trying to heal as little as possible to maximize gps (glare per second) outputs
that's cool but have you ever considered that since healer dps matters in dps checks that maybe it's not an issue of the job but rather of the encounter?
yeah exactly my point is healers need some required healing mechs something like the shinryu heads
or at least have your dps combo also do healing but then everyone would cry about healing being too easy you can't really please anyone unless you tone down or rework one thing or the other
then encounters can just have more lenient dps checks, which is something everyone fricking complained about this expansion especially with shit like p8s and TOP. 2 things can be true at the same time.
yeah i agree i don't like the top dps check at all, p6 is cool but you have to be so on point for the dps, mit, heal and mechanics check that it's not fun on reclears
ah but then you'd have Ganker complaining about no dps checks so you can just be bad
what we should do is go back to heavensward where good dps would skip phases
>If healers were pushed to heal more, encounters would have less hp.
if only, they don't really test the damage
>Enrage is a shit mechanic anyways.
agreed, only if it's through dps check like cutting it close just feels like a chore
isn't that whm thing what they do with afflatus atm?
i do get your point but
then if you gave them more damage tools for dungeons and similar wouldn't that make dungeons easier and faster? which is what people also complain about, you need to tone up or rework one thing and in the current context of the game that would not be benefitial
>isn't that whm thing what they do with afflatus atm?
Yes, it's just less meaningful now since you can often slidecast around and you get weave windows for free always.
but if you made that change then wouldn't people just play astro for buffs + mobility? afterall interrupting casts and not being able to move is a dps loss which is what matters in current encounter design
i'm not opposed to your idea but there really needs to be a huge rework in some way to make all of this meaningful and fun
talking about pf reclears
this is from a few days ago
>i don't like the top dps check at all
I hope you are talking about 6.3 reclears because you can skip last melee LB3 in current TOP given all new pots/food & dungeon gear. Pretty sure it was doable in 6.3 too, there was a double physical ranged clear too.
>do get your point but
(You) then if you gave them more damage tools for dungeons and similar wouldn't that make dungeons easier and faster? which is what people also complain about, you need to tone up or rework one thing and in the current context of the game that would not be benefitial
Dungeons weren't faster when healers had more buttons.
I think the issue is that you really do just spam 1 attack for 95% of the VAST majority of encounters
healers are encouraged to not use any of their GCD heals if they can help it, so that just leads to more spam
if I had to use my GCDs to heal more frequently, 1 button for dps might be fine, but I don't, if I don't have to heal much, give me more to do for damage, for all content that isn't savage/ultimate, I get bored a minute in
Lillies are gcd heals.
>but they never elaborate on it
Ok, let me try. No one wants a combo, that's a melee/tank thing really. Healers want things like:
SCH used to have multiple dots to manage, and a way to spread those dots. It also had Miasma II which cost like 2k mana and was cast within melee range so you had to decide whether you could afford to spend the mana.
WHM used to have to work for weave windows and movement a little bit . You could expand on this with BLM-style tools like Xenoglossy and Triplecast which would be fun and valuable if it still had 2.5s cast times instead of 1.5s.
SGE has a unique and fun button called Eukrasia which augments your other GCDs. But there's no Eukrasian version of Toxicon, Phlegma or Dyskrasia. It is advertised as "a healer who heals by doing damage" but there's very little interaction between the damage and the healing kit. You can think of all sorts of fun ideas for heals giving gauge or proccing counter moves etc, in fact some examples already exist on non-healer jobs.
>warned for posting FFXIV news
Good morning janny-san
>warned for posting FFXIV news
This is gonna be another thread where every single poster in it gets warned for triggering the mod, isn't it.
Yep, just give it a few minutes he's heating up his hotpocket
Why does this never apply to WoW threads? Curious.
>2 wow threads on Ganker
crickets
>As soon as XIV thread
FRICK OF TO VG, JANNIES AIIIEEEEEE
mods have always been wowgays, they always embed wow shit on the board too
the fricking funniest thing is when you can tell mods are frustrated most of the board is neutral to WoW at best and actively antagonistic to it and blizzard at worst
Blizzard has lost all reputation it used to have on Ganker
I think even the wow players here don't respect the company any more
always happens with bad blizzard news
lets fricking go i can get banned again
>Eukrasian Phlegma creates a pool of damage
>Eukrasian Toxi gives some sort of buff or debuff
>Eukrasian Dyskrasia applies a dot
Would be cool, would also give a purpose for sometimes shielding more to get toxi stacks up and Dyskrasia would sometimes be mixed in for the dot.
I don't think people are fixated on specifically what they want more of but they just want more to do in general. Whether that's more involved healing or more damage/buffing is irrelevant. In the majority of content you only spam one button and it's boring. The game isn't just ultimates and other roles have stuff to do that isn't spamming one button even in their current dumbed down states.
I think that healers should have varying levels of difficulty and not all have similar "rotations" and abilities 🙂
Waiting for janny to prune the thread again now that we're on page 9
god i hate xitter
but that was kinda funny
>grim
grim
>cosmic exploration is NOT new content
>a new limited job is NOT new content
hmh.. almost like it just doesn't count because it doesn't
nice "graphical update"
Anon, the script. They announced a fixed version of the benchmark. Check your DMs
>Yshtola in HW
>Yhstola in ShB
I feel like some hairstyles have been very noticeably improved while some haven't been touched at all, to the point where it clashes with the improved models
>rape
>rape
what's the issue?
>doesn't see the difference
Blind perchance?
>five [Deleted] wowbuck posts
ya love to see it
you can bet your ass he's at the IRC at the moment having a meltdown
crying deeply into abib's shoulder and getting his back rubbed and his head patted in sympathy
wtf?
Elezen are canonically disgusting.
Wasn't there also a flavor text on one of the skybuilder items that was about how they stank from wearing so many layers of clothes, but they can't smell it anyway because of the amount of layers? I don't remember the exact text
I hope to see the face paint and facial marking resolution improve in the new benchmark.
Some of that shit looked awful.
Yup, another thread ending with a WoW dub
The "new" content they added in EW sucked dick so just give me more of the old good stuff thanks