FFXIV EndWalker

can we agree that this raid tier had the best music?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >screamoshit
    >better than coilkino
    lmao
    no, endfetus

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >remixes Answers for the 54th time

      How original.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Soken does it again!!!!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was only the first or second time back then. Coils is the Seinfeld of XIV raids.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did like Scream but the first raid tier had pretty bland music

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not Evanecesey enough or CoD Zombies 115-y enough.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like P12 more

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      P12 is a crappy korean remix of scream

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remain vigilant. When they come, do not engage. Don't even bother. Just do your part, Ganker. Shoot to kill.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not doing it for you or XIV.
      I just hate Discord gays.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      stop schizo posting with my wife secondary

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only good track in that tier is p8sp2
    p9-p12sp2 are in general better, though I do think that white stone black is the best raid theme of the expansion, maybe the best we've seen so far

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will never lay your head in Gaia’s lap while Ryne fingers her and you can feel Gaia’s thighs convulsing as her moans vibrate through your eardrums. In Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker, that is.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I miss them

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rather be Gaia in this scenario tbqphwuf

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it was P9-10

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah. Scream is great, but there's also White Stone Black, Fleeting Moment, and Hic Svnt Leones are all kino

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Pyromancer dropped from 89k to 69k followers since his addons and subsequent meltdowns (like against Xeems) and it's continuing to plummet
    >Can't pull above 70 views anymore unless it's Final Fantasy and even then
    >No more XIV content to grift for a whole year

    What's next for his career?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      suicide probably

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What's next for his career?
      Grifting Genshin like Pint

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What's next for his career?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        What happened?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          He switched to BLU so he could kill himself, and a party member would revive him, skipping the jumping puzzle. He invites a friend to a party and for some reason decides to hit yes on the return to home point prompt that pops up when you die, probably instinctively thinking it's a confirm prompt for the invite.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's wrong with this guy? Has every WoW content creator jumping ship been outed as mentally ill?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t know who this is but lemme take a guess at what race he plays

      catgirl?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Y'know, I forgot I had it still uploaded on my throwaway account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I60WWGp3R40

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I care not for ecelebs

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Curtana and Holy Shield Animus get

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >stuck in this step because I can't use the market board to buy all the I and II materia
      Freetrialbros...

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ouch, I feel you.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Use low level combat gear on crafters

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn that sucks. For me I literally went to each US Data Center and bought out all the Tier 1 through 4 as much as was reasonable. My goal is all Zetas with full Direct+Crit scroll melds.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >My goal is all Zetas with full Direct+Crit scroll melds.
          I'm also going for perfect melds even though I know it won't matter, a bit autistic but it wouldn't sit well with me to have it with unoptimal stats.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice job bro

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      One of these days I'll sit down and get some of these...

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Recommend Yoichi Bow and Ragnarok most of all, but also good are Excalibur/Aegis Shield and Sasuke's Blades. Everything else in my opinion is a solid "meh" to "Longinus is bad."

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here's the question, are you capped on poetics? If the answer is yes, go start one.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    White Stone Black is better than an of the other raid songs, Athena, the Tireless One is close

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone stop me from starting the ARR Relics all over again so I can have a full set, and by full set I mean 1 from each step.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scream was terrible. Evascence album-filler tier that is carried by in-game presentation
    White Stone Black was by far the best song

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the opposite. Scream carried the absolute worst fights the entire series with P6 and P7 and is enjoyable to listen in general, while White Stone Black is pretty bad outside of babby's first hello world: the fight.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        White Stone Black is kino, I have it on my usual gaymen playlist. Shut the frick up.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kino is a cinema term, not music , you fricking tard. Don't you ever misuse buzzwords while replying to me again.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cinema includes music, it's a multifaceted medium. And vidya has cinematic elements. The music is kino. SEETHE.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Includes =/= is, ESL.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>>/vg/
    Frick off back to your general containment board.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man, you actually made this, huh? That's pretty sad.
        TRULY WONDER WHO....

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          You probably think this is some epic pwnage, which is the sad part.

          these are the same person

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >everyone i don't like is one person
            LETS GOOOOOO NOW WE'RE XIVVING BROS!!!!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Armorgays be like

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You probably think this is some epic pwnage, which is the sad part.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Axl Shadowedge

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>>/vg/
        Frick off back to your general containment board.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >not a new ip

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      SQUISH IT

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        No

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT I WOULD WALK AMONG LEGENDS IN THIS ALLIANCE ROULETTE

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the hrothgar sprout WAR is fricking cute
      he keeps provoking the bosses but he's also eating every mechanic, so the bosses are killing him with auto-attacks
      also, he's doing tank LB

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've been watching him and trying to not laugh, I'm the highlander GNB in there. His name fits him and his play perfectly too

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          good job to those healers who managed to keep him alive on Diabolos Hollow

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Out of the expansion? I guess, it's not like any of the other tracks are good besides Flow (instrumental). Scream and HSL are the only good raid themes, though. BSW sucks, as does ATTO

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it time?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      doomp eet

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    10/10 trading card

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    HERE ME OUT GUYS

    You know how there are like, 10 different VA's for male and female player characters, right?

    What if, WHAT IF, there was at least ONE SCENE, one important scene, where we actually speak, and SE actually brought in all VAs for male and female PCs to voice the WOL in this one scene?

    That would be pretty dope. Not sure what scene it could be, but if we could just get one scene where our player character finally speaks and it's whatever original VA who did the voice option you specifically took for your respective character that'd be awesome.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The time forr that was EW, and they didn't bother. Besides, the voices are all nips screaming or laughing. They don't change by region.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one important scene, where we actually speak
      HATE NEWSPAPERS

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      aren't the voices shared between languages, since they're only grunts and laughs and shit
      the issue would be that they'd have to find soundalikes for EVERY voice, for EVERY language
      12 voices x 2 sexes x 6 races x 4 languages

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would say that it's perfectly possible for a VA to rehearse a single line in a language he/she doesn't actually speak, but that's not even the real issue. The issue is that a lot of people out there identify with their avatars so hard that they won't want to hear another's, much more identifiable, spoken voice come out of it. It only works for the grunts and laughs because those could belong to almost anyone, including (You).

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        OH NO IMAGINE THE EFFORT REQUIRED
        who is lazier: xiv developers or Mojang?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok homie tell us how easy it is to find 576 soundalike voice-actors

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >12 voices x 2 sexes x 6 races x 4 languages
        This math assumes that the voices aren't shared between the races. Most of them are available to multiple races. I'd say between the races you probably have at most 20 different grunting variations per sex, and many of them are probably done by the same VA. Same VA can also do all 4 languages if it's one scene, they just need a coach to rehearse with.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does CBU3 even have the old race VA's on call at this point? Are they all even alive? It's been 10 years since they hired them to record a handful of grunts and chortles and I'm pretty sure none of them had any other voice roles of any kind in the game.

      On that note, will fem hroths just be using existing player character VAs or will they hire someone new for each dub to do them?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      only if its like the last bit of that south park game

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is the pvp season armor always tank armor?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Feels like they already ran out of ideas since all the season-pass armors are pretty samey in actual looks

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      A caster can look good in armor but a tank/melee dps will never look good in a dress.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bartz looks good in cloth.
        Minwu for Mystic Knight look.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          god i would fricking kill for a mystic knight DPS

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Armor designers have been creatively bankrupt since SB.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only 8 more months to upgrade.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick that reminds me, I have to get my install off my C drive lmao
      can you just move the files or is there some special shit you have to do

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think you can literally just drag and drop the install folder
        dunno if you have to do something else on steam

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm using the windows version, if it were steam I could just do it through that

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            then yeah. you could always google it just to be sure, but I think just dragging the folder to another location shouldn't cause any issues

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              sounds like it just werks, guess I'll do it now

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >140GB
      fricking hell
      isn't the game like 90GB atm?
      what's with the humongous leap in filesize?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty significant texture and graphical bump-up for all expansions *on top* of Dawntrail being added

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't you hear?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I must be the only person who thinks the graphical upgrade looks worse. It looks like an overdone reshade filter. Some shit like the scales and increased clutter in environments do look better though.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mostly want a more firm demonstration besides basic fly-bys and some rotating character faces to make a firm judgment on it. I don't mind the characters having a slight shine to it so long as they don't become plastic-y, because by god everyone's either solid clay blocks of awkward flesh right now or you have the shitty character lighting enabled, but the PBR for items and environments really caught my eye.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        When upscaling textures the size of the game grows exponentially with more stuff added into it

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        74.3GB, and 140GB is probably not the full sheer size but partly the install space needed to be able to get things on there before deduplicating the download I assume

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, probably something like that
          the game is 74.3GB atm, but the download is 91GB

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I still think those are ridiculously high recommended requirements for an MMO.
      >poorgay
      I have much better hardware, but if this significantly drops my fps, and especially minimum fps, I am not happy. Performance should already be better than it is.

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymouse

    I initially didn't care about Scream as a song until I LIVED it through a Primals concert. Now as far as I'm concerned it's in the top ten of the entire soundtrack.

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now to grind out a frickton of materia melds.

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now we're getting somewhere. Curtana & Holy Shield Novus

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The shield has an effect on it that reminds me of Protect, I like it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never noticed the protect patterning

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    if dawntrail doesnt have evil women in it i dont want it

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If only.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only jobs who don't exhaust/annoy me after 3 pulls are WHM and RDM. Which do I main until Dawntrail for deep dungeon, EX farm, and maps?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      WAR

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's GcDs put me to sleep because theres no sense of power to them. Outside of Fell cleaves.

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I'd rather that we got the ability to speak to Chocobos in Dawntrader. It'd be great (after your Scion friends fall off the boat and drown) you wash ashore and the first thing you're greeted with is the friendly banter of your choco compainion, as you spend the rest of the exciting time in Daytrader wiith your chochobo and exchange stories, while exploring the sights and sounds of glorious dawnwalkers continent together. Sure there will be a sad scene during the funeral when they lower yestola's bloated corpse into the ground for a final time, and a particularly touching scene where you shed a single tear for that gay fox-looking annoying dude, and you thoughtfully toss a taco on his descending casket as it settles in eternal rest. After that, your chocobo companion will quip: "Taco 'bout depressing" and you will laugh with your furry friend, because those old companions were stale and boring and seriously just die already

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Old lighting hits different

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats nothing.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow that looks really goo-
        >That gameplay
        Well those graphics look great at least

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          that gameplay was outdated long before the game even came out.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah thats 1.0.

          Game was pretty, and visually has more soul than XIV does now, but thats literally the only good thing about it.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            had quite a bit of good mocap too
            should've used that budget to make not shit gameplay
            also from what I remember the game ran like absolute shit

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            plays better than modern xiv but that isn't saying much, too bad it ran like shit

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow that looks really goo-
        >That gameplay
        Well those graphics look great at least

        Am I being gaslit? Why the frick do so many people say 1.0 looked great? It looked fricking horrendous with that hideous piss-yellow bloom afflciting literally everything. The graphics are also as bad as modern FFXIV is.

        And the "amazing" mocap? It just made the already dated looking graphics look more jarring, seeing these PS2 level character models moving like actual real life humans resulted in this uncanny valley vibe that just makes it look worse.

        Like I genuinely believe anyone praising 1.0 graphics and animations are straight up gaslighting me or just insane.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's just xiv thread contrarianism

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          1.0 had good textures and that was it. The lighting is horrendous and the material shaders look off all over the place so hardly anything feels like it belongs together.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          No your not being gaslit. I'm comparing my screenshot to that video and the video looked better despite 720p. Also explains why the lighting looks like it doesn't belong there

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Am I being gaslit? Why the frick do so many people say 1.0 looked great? It looked fricking horrendous with that hideous piss-yellow bloom afflciting literally everything.
          Anon you realize the average FFXIV usages Gshade where they apply disgusting levels of saturation and shit to the whole game. To the point where it literally destroys magic effects and makes character models look like pic related when any magical effects are happening.

          Or make all the shadows black and gross.

          To the average ff player everything you are describing is only a good thing.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >pic
            I see so many streamers using gshade and everytime like you said there's any magic effects overlaid on an npc this wierd shit happens to the model. It looks fricking disgusting yet they never seem to have a problem with it. There's been times when an entire cutscene was destroyed because the streamers gshade completely illumated a room that was meant to be pitch black. Or like when Pyromancer's gshade caused him to see Amaurot long before he even got there and he literally complained to the GM's in a ticket cause of his own fricking addon causing him to be spoiled on a major part of the MSQ lmao.

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are FFXIV players so hypocritical?

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do organize your jobs alphabetically, right?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nope, they're ordered from when I leveled them.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      No I only play 3

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're ordered
      >Fending
      >Maiming
      >Striking
      >Scouting
      >Aiming
      >Casting
      >Healing
      >Gathering
      >Crafting

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, I order them by role and then by how much I play them within each role.

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the Final Solution to the Bazztek problem?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only option left is to go to his place of residence in Minecraft and beat the hell out of him, like what happened to the guy that spammed monkey torture videos to /gif/

  35. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I despise Scream and its variations
    They sound like "What if this song had lyrcs?!?!" tier shit

  36. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    EW is just bad adaptation of Gurren Lagann.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shadowbringers is just a bad copy of Chains of Promathia

      True, women make for lousy writers.

  37. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shadowbringers is just a bad copy of Chains of Promathia

  38. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    /LULZ/ melty soon

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the most british alisaie I've ever seen

  39. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Y'shtola having a great ass is canon.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      canonically false*

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      GYATT

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope she won't get a background role in DT like she has in every single expansion MSQ so far. She seems to do way better in patch MSQ..

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is this even from? Dissidia or whatever?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Coomers

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      GATO SEXXXOOOOOO

  40. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Krile

  41. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hopes and fears for Saturday?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hopes? Beastmaster as a limited job. I think it's the most likely thing they could do to get me to resub. Major fight/job design overhaul isn't happening
      Fears? It'll be just like any other fanfest where they waste 15 minutes talking about beast tribes or other superfluous shit

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >limited job
        Never happening again, BLU was too much of a spectacular failure to ever consider another one

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is there to hope? We will get more trailer, a class reveal and possibly fem hroth. YoshiP will completely exaggerate shit again, we will see new screenshots of 2 channel dyeable clothing and thats that.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      What hope?
      >another third of the trailer
      >job
      >concept art
      >some gay surprise like XVI crossover that's a solo instance instead of something with an ounce of effort like the Rathalos fight.
      That's it, that's fan fest. You don't need to hope and you don't need to fear because you know what's in each one by now. The real info that matters like job reworks, potencies, hard info on new content, etc won't arrive until April or May.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      No hope nor cope, just facts:
      They will introduce "Companionship", a system that lets you bond with certain NPC in the game. It is governed by your choices during the story as well as a few weekly quests, each level of companionship will unlock more entries in the Journal and grant you a little cutscene bonding with that person. On release there will be only a few NPCs available, but over time they will add more. It is planned that you can go higher with only one NPC of your choice, ending in an EB like scenario for the player character and the NPC. Yes, this will include MSQ NPCs, the companionship quests are considered to be "out of time" similar like Krile in Eureka or Y'shtola in the warring triad.

      NPCs on release of 7.0 will be

      Y'shtola
      Krile
      Yugiri
      The new Hroth girl
      Thancred
      Hien
      G'raha
      Pipin

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Custom deliveries except without crafting then

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's kind of corny but I would actually enjoy the companionship thing
        Everyone would get to pick their favorite

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, i dont get it why they haven't done something about that. people really like the XIV cast, it is a shame we barely see them during down time/private time. would be very little effort unless they would voice that stuff or have it matter in the msq in a significant way.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Would be fine, about time really. The cuckposting would be wondrous with Yshotla/Yugiri/SteppeGang.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually letting people have a Husbando/Waifu in the game would tie people even more than a housing plot to it, especially if they kept putting little updates in the system every patch. I am legit surprised they haven't done that yet.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they introduce a lottery system per world to date npcs

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Pipin
        lel

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fears:
      >people cheer and piss themselves when yoshida says the level cap will be raised from 90 to 100

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        already said that last time, though, and it was no real appraise there.
        no people flipped out over 2 dye system

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to know if COR(or whatever it's going to be named) will have a fast or slow GCD
      Probably going to have to wait a while for job stuff at all

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It'll be RDM without casting spells but instead with shooting gun and a melee phase.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I want to know if COR(or whatever it's going to be named) will have a fast or slow GCD
        Probably fast. So far, all melees that share gear have had mostly similar GCD speed, and COR will share with NIN.

  42. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Soon.

  43. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can only play ningger anymore.

  44. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    can we agree that WoW is better?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      10.3 will save WoW

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The joke is that 10.2 is the last patch for anyone out of the loop

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know

          >wrong

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, they only get two patches to an expansion?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      same shit, different slop

  45. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think the last ultimate was very fun.
    Cleared all 5 of them, and while Omega was clearly the hardest, it was by far much less fun compared to Dragonsong or Alexander.
    Felt very artificial, and I hope the guy who made it (criterion dungeon savage) learned and doesn't make it similar in the future or just doesn't work on them at all.
    Also, FRICK the third part of phase 5 part where you have to adjust depending on everyone's debuff. Dodging to the rays is easy, but it's so fricking aids having to read 8 sets of debuffs while doing it.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      debuff vomit is lazy and a garbage design philosophy no matter the difficulty of the fight

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's really funny that hello near/far explode and wipe on death
      It's not like you could clear the fight without them done right anyways
      I can only think it was done to extend prog length

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody liked TOP. Features nothing people liked about Omega raids, shoehorns dynamis because it's the brand new thing, so much went wrong. TEA was a complete fluke given its the same designer, only bad part about TEA is the cutscene+immobile boss in the last phase plus the weapons, but that's a small price to pay for what was one of the best fights on release and still has the best enrage.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >shoehorns dynamis because it's the brand new thing,
        ???? omega copies limit breaks and uses red 13's in o12 for a reason

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >shoehorns dynamis because it's the brand new thing
          The entire point of Omega-F and Omega-M is Omega desperately trying to capture the spark of driving power that you have that allows you to overcome every other trial he's thrown at you. It's why he does fabricated, "Optimized" versions of all of the limit breaks in his original fight. He's trying to break limits in the same way adventurers do with Dynamis.

          Dynamis didn't exist in SB and putting the current expansion buzzword in old content is tacky.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Next you're gonna tell me that DSR's alternate timeline is too marvel-esque.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >hey guys did you know EVERYONE FRICKING DIES IF YOU SAVE HORSEFART
              I dunno, it's something, but it's not marvelesque. EW is pretty marvelesque, come to think of it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't "stumble" onto it, they literally cheated without knowing how to do the mechanic. There's a reason TEA has the longest period between WF and WS of any ult. They're the reason why you can't set markers during combat anymore.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You must be mistaking the waymarker stuff for the Heart puzzle, which Sfia on record has said they've only found out because of a mistake.

                But yes, they did use waymarks for iirc aoe spam into stack shit.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              Dynamis didn't exist in SB and putting the current expansion buzzword in old content is tacky.

              I'm fine with the interesting stuff they add, Ultimates SHOULD feel like a true route in a game.

              I thought it was fun and I still think they're very lenient on the overall design of Ultimates in general up until then. Literally TOP is the only one with an actual dps checks, having done all of the ultimates when they were relevant. Even then, they pussied out in the hardest phase, p5 and made it only mechanic vomit asides from a bit of omega.

              Raiders want difficulty but they don't want to admit they've been tamed like sheep to want breathers, no dps checks, and brain-off follow the leader type mechanics. I hope they make the next Ultimate at the same level of TOP, if not harder, because I love seeing top raider larpers act like hot shit up until they have to actually do hard content. Then it's "overtuned", "dps check too hard", "I don't wanna pay attention during p1-p2", "artificial difficulty". This is what you should have wanted from Ultimates, not this shitty difficulty that's barely above a Savage last floor, like ucob/uwu/tea done post-relevance.

              DPS checks for Omega was great, the checks were real. It's just as

              debuff vomit is lazy and a garbage design philosophy no matter the difficulty of the fight

              says. You're either good at reading debuffs or not and I think the fight suffers because of it. Phase 6 was great, albeit maybe a bit easy. Run sigma was good. Final Omega overload was great. All of them reasonably difficult and felt good to execute.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You're either good at reading debuffs or not
                One of my healers manually marked everyone during the mechanic vomit. PF regularly uses plugins to do it for them. It's kind of a non-mechanic for reclears but hell for first time or blind proggers.

                What's the matter with debuff reading as a skill though? The hardest mechanics have always been that, anything else would be assuredly too easy at this point for current raiders.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Reading your own debuff is pretty easy.
                Infact, that part of the fight was trivial if you got first in line or second in line with double dynamis.
                It's just ass in the situation where you don't have those. Maybe my group was just not good at that part, but it felt like there was some sort of mental gymnastics you had to do to solve where to go as not line marked players by reading the entire party list.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Right, mechanic vomit tends to be hard at first, easy later.

                The only time mechanic vomit is hard the whole way is when you add DPS checks to it. Which they've only done for TOP out of every ultimate. Which is why I've always said that DSR is actually quite lenient but people didn't believe me up until TOP came along.

                There is a limit to mechanical complexity a fight can offer without bordering on the ludicrous. I can agree that 8+ debuff vomiti is getting old. But the flipside is that difficulty needs to come from the class itself instead, but most casual people prefer Shb/EW class philosophy overall so that's unlikely to ever change.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but most casual people prefer Shb/EW class philosophy overall so that's unlikely to ever change.
                I am a casual, highest I do is Criterion and I never set a foot into any Savage raids: I would very much welcome if they eased off with the fricking puzzle fights and made classes a little more complex. FFS, EW had some of the worst Ex Trials, Rubicante was fricking atrocious.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Remembering how they killed SKS samurai and pigeonholed everyone to crit
                Omega fricking gay what they did

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thing is, pure execution fights tend to be considered very easy. Zeromus Ex has very few mechanical pitfalls and it's probably the easiest extreme in the entire expac honestly.

                Which is weird because Barbarciia is considered one of the best extremes and that fight is mostly just execution. But even so, I'd consider Barbaracia to be the absolute limit on how hard execution fights can be, barring making all her attacks just oneshot you.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I like those kind of fights, I just hate the ones that make you turn a shape in your head 5 times to find a safe spot over while fireworks go off on your screen. Especially the fricking samurai boss in the rokkon criterion almost made me give up, I just hate that kind of mechanic. Barb was absolutely based, really fun fight.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                We had such a good balance during Stormblood in terms of the job:fight complexity ratio. They've gone so far in the other direction that some fights are just fricking dismal when they don't have enough going on and it's old content that's suffered the most.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ultimate's are ludicrous and so are Savage fights. Rapid firing mechanics at me is my idea of a good time nor a fun fight. Though I understand if it is for others.

                It's like beating a Dark souls boss by studying his every move until it's a flowchart

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >is not my idea*

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Limit breaks are dynamis. Thus dynamis was retconned to have always been in the game since the beginning, you just never knew what to call it other than dynamis. It was all just force of will (power of friendship) all along.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Limit breaks are dynamis
              NTA and I'm ok with this but they gotta explain why ancients can use LB in that Elpis dungeon

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                They'll come up with some asspull, like "oh they imagined a powerful attack, capable of saving them at their most dire situation"

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget to ask how Elidibus could use LBs in his fight.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >shoehorns dynamis because it's the brand new thing
        The entire point of Omega-F and Omega-M is Omega desperately trying to capture the spark of driving power that you have that allows you to overcome every other trial he's thrown at you. It's why he does fabricated, "Optimized" versions of all of the limit breaks in his original fight. He's trying to break limits in the same way adventurers do with Dynamis.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dynamis was never needed to understand Omega's failure to understand the WOL's power. The entire point was he was a fricking robot who couldn't understand human emotion and how it drives people to push themselves beyond their limits. It's literally "villain cannot understand the concept of love and fails because of this". A classic tale that never needed a deeper, scientific in-universe explaination. Going so far as to say 'actually he couldn't beat the WOL because the WOL had an even specialer form of magic powers" is fricking moronic and destroys this entire theme.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ultimates aren't canon. It's literally a bard making shit up.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            it is just a story made up by the minstrel ok golbez armor motivation autist?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >golbez armor motivation autist
              What the frick is this forced meme these past few threads? This bizarre attempt to associate the following anons

              >Anons who complain about post-ew's writing
              >Anons who complain about the lack of traditional fantasy armor vs modern day casual outfits
              >Whatever other anons this moron wants to associate together

              As being the same individual. Like these "GOLBEZAMRORSTORYWRITINGDYNAMISBOZJALALAFELL" posts read like an AI is writing them at this point.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >STOP MAKING FUN OF ME
                >ARMOR
                >TRANCE!

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who are you talking to?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >WHO ARE YOU CALLING ARMOR TRANCER????

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                "Armorgay" will never be a meme no matter how hard you try because nobody knows who or what the frick you're even referring to.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                first you didnt know what it meant and now youre mad and saying it wont catch on
                keep up golbez armor motivation autist

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >first you didnt know what it meant and now youre mad and saying it wont catch on
                >keep up golbez armor motivation autist
                Can someone explain what the frick this moron is even talking about or should we just ignore him?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >AAAIIIIIEEEEE ARMOR DADDY SAVE ME!!!! SHOULD WE RUN???

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dynamis is the Midiclorians of FFXIV

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            That makes no sense. The stories theme doesn't change whatsoever if I call the power of love and friendship dynamis instead.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm who you replied to and I actually agree with this. However, I give leeway on it because Dynamis is explicitly and directly just the power of your emotions and will being able to drive you to further heights. Even with it being in the story, you still see the WoL overcoming something else using the same energy through his own sheer force of will and love. It being in TOP is fine because it's just giving a name to what was already part of the story.

            It's effectively just giving a name to the "power of friendship" that was already in the story and what fuels half the fricking jobs in the game.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        TEA is trash bro. It's one mechanic: the fight. It's puzzle was also trash back when it was first progged, no one liked it compared to UwU and the world first team won purely off of luck.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >purely off by luck
          You stumbled on your bait, but I'll give you an A for effort. Train up, review your logs, and you'll be an orange-shitparser in no time.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            How many world firsts did Sfia claim after TEA? Lol. They stumbled upon the puzzle solution early and that's the only reason they won and they've almost never won after that.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You people only defend Wormhole: the fight because the rest of the fight after that is barely at the level of an Extreme fight.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's actually because TEA is the first ult shadowbabs did (in 5.5). Nobody who cleared TEA in 5.1 thinks it's the best.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought it was fun and I still think they're very lenient on the overall design of Ultimates in general up until then. Literally TOP is the only one with an actual dps checks, having done all of the ultimates when they were relevant. Even then, they pussied out in the hardest phase, p5 and made it only mechanic vomit asides from a bit of omega.

      Raiders want difficulty but they don't want to admit they've been tamed like sheep to want breathers, no dps checks, and brain-off follow the leader type mechanics. I hope they make the next Ultimate at the same level of TOP, if not harder, because I love seeing top raider larpers act like hot shit up until they have to actually do hard content. Then it's "overtuned", "dps check too hard", "I don't wanna pay attention during p1-p2", "artificial difficulty". This is what you should have wanted from Ultimates, not this shitty difficulty that's barely above a Savage last floor, like ucob/uwu/tea done post-relevance.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        TOP had dps checks because the job balance was absolutely atrocious during release, same with P8S. The devs can toss out the "oh but we always tuned them like this before what happened raiders???" all they want but it's clear something went wrong with EW testing because nobody had a problem prior to this period. Nevermind TOP had a few bugs on release. This is why DPS checks didn't exist in Anabaseios as well, all these new hires suck dick and can't do their jobs.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >job balance was atrocious
          Imao. What a claim to make. Wrong btw. Never felt the dps check when my group was doing it and it was full of off-meta.

          People were just bad.

          >This is why DPS checks didn't exist in Anabaseios as well
          DPS checks didn't exist likely because of the p8s raiders shitting themselves in fury that they might not get their week 1. You're not going to see an actual dps check in Savage ever again, hope you babies are happy with that.

          Imagine not being able to swap class and play at a top level, even with all these HomOGENiZeD classes. Raid larpers should just go die.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Imagine not being able to swap class and play at a top level, even with all these HomOGENiZeD classes.
            But that is what people did? You didn't need fo play top level on meta jobs, so long as you didn't play PLD, WAR, RDM, RPR, MCH, SGE, or WHM you were getting the clear by pushing buttons.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >why do I have to switch class to clear this fight
              https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/1722a1c/is_it_okay_to_force_high_end_raiders_to_change/

              You'd think so but raider larpers couldn't even swap from RDM to SMN half the time. Class swappng is very clearly a point of contention in the communtiy, even though the game was built for it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea of casters, but don't raid troons buy overmelded crafted gear?If materia between RDM and SMN is different, you are looking at a whole new set, which costs a lot of gil.

                But this has mostly to do with the awful way of gearing in this game. Way too slow, and there is no reason to lock the "best" gear behind savage at this point, except for the bragging rights. No one would mind if the 24man raid dropped BiS in slot gear for a few pieces.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You just extract materia. The cost would be minimal, SMN and RDM share stat prios iirc. You wouldn't lose that much gil at all, nor is penta melding required for p8s week one, I can attest to that with my scumbag melee player who forgot to pentameld.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its contentious with the devs because it's clear since SB they didn't want anyone to be kicked out for not playing meta, and eben though there was meta in SB it wasn't as bad as HW. So the philosophy since SHB onward is no meta, just preference, UNTIL P8S and TOP. Now I know 90% of raiders are shitters who need add-ons to tell them what to do and where to go, but isn't it strange that this wasn't a problem during SHB at all? That's why I'm placing most blame on balancing and fight testing for the middle of 6.X.

                Biggest issue in SHB I remember was Eden Verse favoring 2x caster instead of usual 2x melee, but even then I think WF was 2x melee anyways?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Biggest issue in SHB I remember was Eden Verse favoring 2x caster instead of usual 2x melee,
                Why is that even a problem, though? The party role buff modifiers are in such a way that you can opt to run 2 melee, 2 phys ranged or 2 magic dps along 1 of the other two without losing your party role buff modifier.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not, but people were used to the traditional 2x melee that you'd get people complaining about about being locked out for playing the most popular dps archetype. It was just a new way to approach a raid tier where melee uptime was a challenge.

                I personally thought it was a fun challenge but you know how others are, which is why hitboxes are so large since Eden's Promise.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It was a problem in ShB, if you did E8S on release there were going to be DPS problems if you weren't in a meta comp. The issue here is that the game is so well balanced that it actually causes problems in the highest of the high tier content, they've started cutting things close (really just TOP) to make things fun but it's so tight that even if a job is 1% behind or reliant on crits it can make or break things.

                I don't see any problem with their fight design, Ultimates should be brutally difficult and until DSR they were relatively easy. We've been getting other content like Criterion that shows they can do fun stuff with mechanics and not everything is going to bust your balls.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Class swapping wouldn't be an issue if gearing itself wasn't a pain in the dick. I sometimes don't wanna bother playing another job in the same role if it has different meld requirements, and it only gets worse as the weeks progress because now it takes weeks for something to be on the same level as something I can already play.

                As much "levelling every job on one character" is a selling point, they seem to try their best to make sure you stick within a role.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its contentious with the devs because it's clear since SB they didn't want anyone to be kicked out for not playing meta, and eben though there was meta in SB it wasn't as bad as HW. So the philosophy since SHB onward is no meta, just preference, UNTIL P8S and TOP. Now I know 90% of raiders are shitters who need add-ons to tell them what to do and where to go, but isn't it strange that this wasn't a problem during SHB at all? That's why I'm placing most blame on balancing and fight testing for the middle of 6.X.

                Biggest issue in SHB I remember was Eden Verse favoring 2x caster instead of usual 2x melee, but even then I think WF was 2x melee anyways?

                I see an argument for "you need to play optimal at the highest level, and that means swapping job compositions".
                But personally, the devs meta enforcing how jobs play is fricking gay as

                >Remembering how they killed SKS samurai and pigeonholed everyone to crit
                Omega fricking gay what they did

                says.
                Stifling player creativity sounds bad, I'd much rather they make all jobs viable to clear. Unfortunately that means making the DPS check "lenient" under circumstances where no one fricks up mechanics.
                I'm actually OK with them doing mechanics where you might get minor stacking damage downs, but not die. It becomes a team effort to get the least amount of DD.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                All jobs are viable and that's been their philosophy for more than half of XIV's life now. What happened in 6.2-6.3 was dev incompetence, and then trying to pin the shortcoming on the community. Yoshida is petty deep down, remember all those PVP BLM buffs?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                BLM has sucked for the majority of this new PVP system in EW.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro...bro lol. It sucked for S1 and then became a menace that still isn't reigned back to a proper level.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >CC
                You have to look at the entire PVP system, It's garbage in FL and RW. Overall it's the weakest of the casters across every mode, arguably the ranged as a whole.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                All the balance is done around CC, chud, so that's all that matters. RW and FL balance is an afterthought, and deservedly so for a roulette mode and moba.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He thinks anyone cares about a cheater infested mode with a tiny playerbase.

                Doesn't change the fact that BLM is extremely weak in 2 out of 3 modes, the modes with far far more players and activity.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks anyone cares about a cheater infested mode with a tiny playerbase.
                That's pvp as a whole lol.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's definitely not garbage in RW with its permanent LB, sounds like skill issue.

  46. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >consider doing unreals
    >"oh right they're the minstrel's ballads renamed and current-spec, so above savage but not quite ultimate"
    >don't do savages in the first place
    okay i think i'm good never mind

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      weak bait

  47. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    eulogia's theme SUCKED, especially after how good naldthal and menphina's themes were

  48. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DATHRIC DATHRIC DATHRIC
    Why are Zodiark Trancers obsesed with random some enemy mob from WoW: TBC?

    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Battle-Mage_Dathric

  49. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are we pretending like the Dynamis/Omega association is exclusive to TOP? The entirety of Endwalker was trying to imply that Dynmais was the actual canonical extra element to us that Omega couldn't grasp, not just this Ultimate's non-canon story.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      sauce
      now

  50. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Lackluster Story in Endwalker thread on the OF forums is almost at 1000 pages
    >The past 2 years it's been the exact same 10 or so discord spergs bumping it religious having the exact same arguements word-for-word and not remotely changing their opinions whatsoever
    At what point do you just grow bored of having the exact same discussion over and over and over?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >At what point do you just grow bored of having the exact same discussion over and over and over?
      She literally lives rent free in their minds at this point, they can't deny it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Catgirl Venat?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is that different from Ganker threads? You even got waifugays samegayging because no one cares about NPC marriage or whatever gay gacha shit they want in the game.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post another Venat and Ill tell you

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post another Venat and Ill tell you

      >At what point do you just grow bored of having the exact same discussion over and over and over?
      She literally lives rent free in their minds at this point, they can't deny it.

      How is that different from Ganker threads? You even got waifugays samegayging because no one cares about NPC marriage or whatever gay gacha shit they want in the game.

      reminder that they come here and do the same thing

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >reminder that they come here and do the same thing
        Yep

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous
  51. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Class quests were based and had some of the coolest characters while role quests barely have anything to do with your role any more. Frick this shit why did they ever get rid of them?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ShB role quests were fantastic, and I liked the way they tied into the Main Story and gave background on Norvrandt. The EW role quests were pretty mediocre, though. Their only real value was giving more time to hang out with cool NPCs (in my case it was just $4, Gosetsu, and Kunny-Senna that I enjoyed).

      I do miss class quests and all of that variety and lore. Even if some of them were bad.

  52. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    aieeee we're going to fall off the catalog

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Has the troony janny been up to no good again?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good thread for what it was.
      Ultimate is kino content.
      Now for another 100 trash threads.

  53. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venat x WOL is a better ship that Yshtola x WOL

  54. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's your femhroth.

  55. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  56. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lalafells ignored and go away
    >thread gets autosaged
    Really makes you think.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Really makes you think.
      It really does doesn't it?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It explains why constant reporting them for avatargayging for over a week has done absolutely nothing.

  57. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >malera with femra horns
      Hmmm

  58. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  59. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t get this picture

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's the twelve as their ancient selves.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ehhh, I still don’t see it. Especially the white haired one on the left

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's the hoodie girl from Euphrosyne, Althyk's sister. The blue hair closest to the pov is Halone, Menphina is the other. It's kinda obvious.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nah it’s just a bunch of different colored haired girls with no definitive features. Unironically would have been obvious with the dudes

  60. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alisaie and Y'shtola swimsuit scene in Dawntrail or we riot

  61. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now I’m not even remotely good at pvp, but how is BLM good again? Melees seem to one shot me at half health all the time, tanks literally never die unless you ignore them and kill their teammates first. Ranged are dickheads that spam cc while hiding in the back, and all BLM ever did was spam Flare and get killed while everyone ignored the fire DoT.

  62. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >autosage

  63. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    how do i level academician

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