The game is not perfect by a long shot, but goddamn was it a helluva ride.
The chadley shit was a slog. The green story quests were fine imo, as they developed the characters a bit.
are there any rewards for doing the hardmode for fort condor / gears and gambits or is it just trophy shit?
Don't bother. In fact, I'm glad they let us know Remake data only gave bonuses and not file save transfer, so I know I don't have to put too much time into end game content for Rebirth either. Outside of checking for an old save, Part 3 probably won't transfer the save over either.
They do not. No. So if you power leveled your characters and materia in remake, you wasted your time.
However, the DLC/Bonus menu under "system" in the rebirth menu gives you some bonus items and materia for the following:
1. Having a Remake Save
2. Having an Intergrade Save
3. Having a Rebirth Demo Save (also lets you skip the Nibelheim segment partway through if you beat it in the demo).
Which sucks the data doesn't really carry over, but it's also a bit liberating to know I don't really have to 100% rebirth and just finish the story.
Compared to Remake. They've reduced the overall MP you have, and you actually need to be using your items more
Did you play Remake and Rebirth?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I think it feel like that because in Remake you have boxes to break everywhere, obviously in the open world no boxes so they gave us no MP usage elemental skills.
1 month ago
Anonymous
the no MP elemental skills are such bad uses of ATB though for Weakness exploiting, except in the cases where it's enough to pressure the enemy.
It makes the game actually enjoyable to play since there's an actual challenge. It's also why I didn't do most of the side stuff until AFTER beating the game.
>Why is performance mode in both the latest mainline ff games trash?
how is it trash? its smooth FPS on my machine.
dont tell me you play on graphics mode...
not coping but i genuinely didn't notice any difference . I have a 3080Ti so im not a peasant when it comes to graphics either. I just have a lower expectation for the PS5 and rebirth has satisfied that bar pretty well.
>2 brutal combat simulator >be doing good and reach round 9/10 after 20 min >some enemy I don't even remember fighting shows up and does some attack that leaves a party member in a tree cage >he does it again >and yet again >slowly kills each one since none can move and I can't do anything >google wtf happened and turns out it's unavoidable and you have to kill the enemy to release a party member >who decided to include cheap deaths like this?
just like the final boss with his bullshit 1hp atack and imediate follow up. dont react instantly? have fun replaying 30 minutes of fights and unskipable cutscenes.
It's even funny because it's FF, for exemple when I did the Tonberry boss I knew full well that he would surely oneshoot my characters with his dagger, it's accepted, but to a guy who never played a FF he would wipe really fast, and call it cheap, when in truth some mobs have special abilities in a RPG , abilities that you can't always predict the first time around.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Thing is, why should we consider "new" players?
Every FF fan knows what a Tonbery is and what it does.
It is the same morons that demand to start watching a movie series at the 5th entry and complain they have 0 idea who anyone is.
1 month ago
Anonymous
My point is that you can be surprised by the mechanism of a boss, I for exemple did need to restart some battle because my team only had one thunder user when the boss was only vulnerable to thunder (like the scarlet fight if you don't bring 3 thunder materia the arms take forever to break). It's normal, I can't expect to go to every fight knowing all the mechanisms already.
1 month ago
Anonymous
But that is normal for games, not even counting JRPGs.
A boss stomps you, you get a game over and then you refine your strat to beat it.
Rebirth is getting a gold star just for the fact it has gimmick fights like that.
I refuse to budge on the "set it and forget it" Materia system you seem to advocating for.
Let the gays fail, at best they look up a guide and get good or worse, they frick off out of the fandom and go shit up somewhere else.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I was saying that its a good thing btw, to counter the one that didn't like the 1hp mechanism as it caught him (and me) off-guard, it's something that is expected to happen in games, you can't prepare for everything, sometimes you will hit that retry button.
>hahaha yellow paint!!! Fricking newbies ruining gaming, stupid npcs needing to be told where to go... >IS THAT NOT A STRAIGHT LINE? I HAVE TO USE INTERNAL MAP NAVIGATION AND MAP OUT ROUTES OH NONONONONONO AHHHHHH TASTAKE YELLOW PAINT SAMA
That's u pussy
It is like the eternal moronic Ganker hot take of >WTF THIS GAME IS JUST CORRIDORS
For the first game >WTF THE WORLD IS TOO BIG
For the second.
Ganker can never pick a lane and stay on it.
Anon, I am perfectly fine with curated hallway games. I knew FF7 past midgar is more open world, but I was not ready for the collectathon bullshit ruining the pace
Same here. I did love XV too, but Rebirth is obviously way more polished and cohesive. I think I’ve outgrown JRPGs overall, so Rebirth is a wonderful surprise.
That's the weird part about Rebirth. It doesn't feel bloated to me, like 90% of the optional content is actually fun for me.
Remake felt bloated as hell to me and needed to be shorter and trimmed a bit.
He literally will in the true Nibelheim flashback when he thinks Sephiroth just murdered Tifa and he has his little autistic sperg out tard rage moment demanding Tifa, his mom, and his home back.
>Also it was his mom, tifa and the town. In that order.
I wasn't being a stickler on the order, Anon. Because it doesn't detract from the point. Hell, makes sense he'd say his mom first. You know. Since it's his mom. There are plenty of girls out there. But you only get one mom.
Unless you're Sephiroth. Then you get a mom and a space mom.
>and it doesn't feel like a cash grab at all.
I disagree, the first game felt like a blatant cash grab. If they wanted to have something with narrative competence as well as multiple products to sell they would have ended game 1 after Cloud gives Sephiroth the black materia.
Swift cast and magnify fire with a atb stagger
Could also combo up magic focus with a fire to get them down faster.
Just be ready to dodge round the rocks
why did they ruin the saving of Clouds memories in part 2? that means no lifestream Tifa saving Cloud in part 3 because Cloud already knows Zack, Tifa remembers Nibelheim already. The only thing left to discover is that Cloud thought he was Zack
Let's be real, she's teasing him for having a crush on her like 10 years ago when he was a kid. Tifakeks please stop denying reality
1 month ago
Anonymous
Makes more sense for Cloud to still have a crush on Tifa now than it does for him to be madly, head over heels in love with a girl he met two weeks ago.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why? It's not like love is a logical thing.
1 month ago
Anonymous
does it really?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>trying to apply real life timescales to fictional romances
Ask me how I know you're a moron
1 month ago
Anonymous
to apply real life timescales to fictional romances >Ask me how I know you're a moron
If I don't get to apply real life timescales to a fictional romance, then why do all Aerithgays get to do it when they get all "LMAO HE HAD A CRUSH 10 YEARS AGO!" in an attempt to dismiss Cloud's affection for Tifa now?
It's no different than when you people pull up the AC Nojima quote about Cloud and Tifa's relationship being strained in AC, but conveniently gloss over the bit in the same quote where he says "Maybe it'd be different if Aerith was alive, but even then Aerith carries a burden" meaning Cloud would be a mopey, miserable frick in AC with either of these women.
Or how you're quick to say all of Tifa's scenes only happen in non-canon, optional cutscenes but in the same breath say Aerith's optional scenes are actually canon for arbitrary reasons. Or how people will point out when Tifa does have some scenes, just like Aerith does, outside of the optional stuff but you dismiss those too and pretend shit plays out different. Can't tell you how many times I've seen you people say Cloud was disinterested in Tifa in the Gongaga scene and Tifa was doing all the leaning in for a kiss even though Cloud was moving in first.
That's why people get annoyed with Aerithgays. You grasp at every straw you can to hold your positive bits up on a pedestal while dismissing anything that goes against your narrative instead of looking at all of it objectively.
In the OG game, Cloud's brain is scrambled eggs and he doesn't get better until after Aerith dies. She never got to know the real Cloud and this, no matter how much you wish otherwise, is canon. And it's still Canon.
And every single one of you who thinks the third game is going to go wildly off the rails when the first two games kept all the same story beats just so they can turn the third game into a Tifa Lockhart humiliation simulator are delusional.
1 month ago
Anonymous
you are the delusional shippergay. Aerith is merged with the lifestream which means she knows who the real cloud is and she fell in love with him. your incel fantasies of a big-titty girlfriend will never come to pass. Tifa will be watching from the back-lines as Cloud and Aerith get married at the end of part 3. Maybe if Zack survives Tifa can get the scraps
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Maybe if Zack survives Tifa can get the scraps
Cissnei
1 month ago
Anonymous
Zack has Cissnei. Tifa can get with Barret
1 month ago
Anonymous
johnny*
1 month ago
Anonymous
Barret is 15 years older than Tifa. and hes black.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Barret is 15 years older than Tifa
Being with a partner 15 years your senior is a much bigger problem for men than it is for women.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Red XIII*
1 month ago
Anonymous
best Scarlet lewds?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why are flatties always so jealous of big breasts women? You love to pretend they are worse person just to make yourself feel better lmao
1 month ago
Anonymous
because flatties were used as pump n dumps by Chad and the women had to watch on as their Chads went off and married big tity stacies instead of them and it drives them mad. but Chad always wins
1 month ago
Anonymous
Because they don't want to accept stacies can also be good people.
It's like when Bleach had that ending, Rukiagays hated how the nice cowtitty WON
They think men like girls with over the top personality instead of some comfy wife with huge breasts
1 month ago
Anonymous
over the top personality irl is most likely manic. avoid at all costs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is literally why most sane white men like Tifa. >Calm, patient, and loyal >Enjoys casual conversation >Good with children >Capable of having fun in a normal way >Good cook and can mix drinks >Big fat knockers >Stays in shape
11/10 real life wife material. Aerith and especially Yuffie's shit would get annoying real quick.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Sounds incredibly boring
1 month ago
Anonymous
Most men would love to be with a "boring", big boobs woman over le quirky flatty b***h
As soon as another Soldier fell on her church she would flirt with him too
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Sounds incredibly boring
No, Aerith and Yuffie just sound incredibly tiresome.
1 month ago
Anonymous
anon, all of those apply to Aerith as well
1 month ago
Anonymous
>flat chest >doesnt drink >socially awkward
Lol no they dont. she's like that awkward gf that your friend brings along to hang out with the friend group but no one can have a good time when she's around. then when u break up all your friends tell you they thought she wasnt good for you anyway. kek.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You are coping so hard it's insane
1 month ago
Anonymous
>>flat chest
drink
awkward
Oh no!? She's awkward because she was ostracized as a kid. You know who else was ostracized when they were young? Cloud.
Also the entire group in FF7 adores her so what the frick are you even talking about.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Anon we're not even talking about in-universe right now.
We're talking about which girl has the qualities a real life man would prefer.
Keep up with the conversation chain.
Aerith's personality works fine on some bombastic adventure across the world fighting monsters and shit.
But if you're just some guy who works ten hours to day to provide for a family and want to come home to a pleasant woman and some good kids, Tifa is preferable.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are we talking about Tifa that got Cloud involved in a terrorist cell literally days after reuniting with him?
And Aerith who just tried to stay out of trouble and sells flowers?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Now your argument is Tifa isn't boring? Pick a lane.
1 month ago
Anonymous
who said anything about boring you moron, you implied Aerith would not be down for a simple family life, while Tifa would be. Which is fricking stupid, because both would absolutely be fine with it, it's just a difference of character, not lifegoals.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No moron, i said tifa would be better at a simple family life. Eco-terririst over my wife constantly being stalked by the government and having to save her because she cant do anything herself any day.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>And Aerith who just tried to stay out of trouble and sells flowers?
Aerith actively seeks out trouble, what are you smoking?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes, if someone needs help. Not going around bombing shit for the planet, which is ironic because you'd expect her as a Cetra to be the one going around committing eco-terrorism.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Tifa didn't want to do that either, she had huge doubts and tells Cloud she feels trapped in Remake
1 month ago
Anonymous
>which is ironic because you'd expect her as a Cetra to be the one going around committing eco-terrorism.
Early drafts of the game, she was.
Aerith and Tifa were one character at some point during conception. There was even a point in time where Aerith's physical design was just Tifa while they were jumbling around trying to finalize it.
They went with the design they did because they decided that Aerith and Sephiroth were supposed to be siblings.
But then that went out the window, and Nomura also really wanted to use the Tifa design he made, so they then decided on a love triangle.
Hell, Aerith's first SOLDIER boyfriend wasn't even Zack in one draft. It was Sephiroth.
This game has had some pretty crazy development history and there are a hundred different ways it could have gone.
Honestly if they were going to do a remake but not a remake, in hindsight, it would have been cool if they just did a retelling using a bunch of elements from early OG game production that never made it past the cutting room floor. Then the original game remains untouched, and you still get the same basic premise, but everything is new and different while also being familiar.
But maybe I just suck at ideas and that would have been horrible. Idk.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>They went with the design they did because they decided that Aerith and Sephiroth were supposed to be siblings. >Hell, Aerith's first SOLDIER boyfriend wasn't even Zack in one draft. It was Sephiroth.
Kinky
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wasn't Sephiroth her brother at first? That's why they have similiar hair
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Hell, Aerith's first SOLDIER boyfriend wasn't even Zack in one draft. It was Sephiroth.
This actually would've been pretty interesting
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wasn't she originally scheduled to be Sephiroths sister? Hence the somewhat similar hairstyles and face
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, and then he was written as her lover in the next outline. The sister thing still partially survives as Sephiroth believing him and Jenova are Cetra
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes the fictional characters like her in the fictional world because thats what its supposed to be. We're talking irl though, and irl that's 100% what she would be. Stop getting so defensive just because you relate most to aerith. hit a sore spot i see.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's acceptable for men to be loners. Not the case for women.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's acceptable for men to be loners
anon, people keeping their distance and leaving alone is not the same thing as those people thinking it's "acceptable"
1 month ago
Anonymous
Cloud was a loner by choice. Aerith was ostracized. Thats how it works for women.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>>flat chest
drink
awkward
as if those are deal-breakers you colossal homosexual
1 month ago
Anonymous
Flat chest and doesn't drink honestly aren't deal breakers.
But socially awkward gets real old real fricking fast. At first it's quirky and cute. But you quickly reach a point where the girl is still socially awkward when you're around and the charm quickly dies.
1 month ago
Anonymous
all three of those things tell me she doesnt know how to unwind. that's 90% of a relationship battle after work and on the weekends. Im not saying she needs to be an alcoholic, Tifa isn't one.
1 month ago
Anonymous
agreed. she's the best fictional woman of all time.
1 month ago
Anonymous
She's has zero screen presence and is fricking boring to watch.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>>Big fat knockers
If youre 18 maybe, men prefer woman with medium sized boobs
1 month ago
Anonymous
Tifa's are medium, hes exaggerating. Everyone knows big knockers are too heavy to have fun with. I'd put her breasts just slightly bigger than sweeneys.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Men think about their womans back, teenagers only want "muh big titts"
1 month ago
Anonymous
Come to think of it, Rukiakeks do remind me of Clerithgays with their interpretations and headcanons from normal dialogue.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you are right, Aerithgays are the new Rukiagays
There was the whole Naruto getting the COW BOOBS girl over the flatty quirky girl
I never trust le quirky girl because they are always trying to compensate for something
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I never trust le quirky girl because they are always trying to compensate for something
When does Aerith ever do this
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is literally why most sane white men like Tifa. >Calm, patient, and loyal >Enjoys casual conversation >Good with children >Capable of having fun in a normal way >Good cook and can mix drinks >Big fat knockers >Stays in shape
11/10 real life wife material. Aerith and especially Yuffie's shit would get annoying real quick.
oh so you gays are just projecting onto Aerith
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is what I'm talking about >you are the delusional shippergay.
In the same post as >Tifa will be watching from the back-lines as Cloud and Aerith get married at the end of part 3. Maybe if Zack survives Tifa can get the scraps
Anyway, I'll address the only sentence in your post that matters. >Aerith is merged with the lifestream which means she knows who the real cloud is and she fell in love with him
Aerith lost all of those memories when the whispers took them in Shinra tower. She doesn't gain them back until after the Temple of the Ancients when Cloud hops into the dream date timeline where the white materia still has all of her happy memories inside. Shortly after this, Aerith is killed again.
So while she could use the lifestream to find out about the real Cloud, she still hasn't MET the real Cloud. The real Cloud is still buried under false memories and Jenova's influence.
This is not hard to understand.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>in love with a girl he met two weeks ago
Is this the new template shitpost?
Tbf, the dialogue is still about Tifa.
What I like about Aerith is that she's not the jealous type and would rather have Cloud be honest about his feelings.
In another timeline we are best of buds, just remember that 🙂
1 month ago
Anonymous
does she look alive to you? seething timelinegay?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>rainbow effect of shifting timeline happens when Cloud blocks Sephiroth's assassination attempt
do people REALLY think Cloud is just being a schizo when he sees Aerith alive?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm thinking Cloud can now hop between multiverses
1 month ago
Anonymous
I feel like the dunk in the lifestream in Mideel will have more than just the True Nibelheim flashback.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Let Tifakeks mald. They think all the Zack scenes are made up. Its going to hilarious in part 3 when we find out Tifa did actually die and shes the one Cloud has been schizo over.
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
>No glitching >Rainbows present
Tifagays seething
1 month ago
Anonymous
Everything in the rainbow timeline is fake and gay thats why its a rainbow
I feel it was to explain how Tifa could survive a trip to the lifestream, in the original it's really weird, everyone act like failing into the lifestream === death or you become a moron, but somehow Tifa who isn't know for anything special manage to withstand that AND save Cloud's spirit.
They still make us do a 2nd trip later with Cloud but this time it will be >"Tifa was able to do it because she already experienced this and was protected by that Whale weapon, now it's easier for her".
More likely scenario? >Sephiroth is actively trying to turn Cloud against Tifa and get him to kill her to fully break him >If he kills her, it will just push Cloud further in to the "I hate you Sephiroth" deep end and he might be harder to control. >When in the Lifestream, Sephiroth sees an opportunity to be rid of the prostitute and Cloud will be none the wiser, even thinking he did it. >He REALLY doesn't want Tifa around Cloud, because he knows what she's going to do. >Sephiroth can still move around the lifestream with his dumb whispers.
Aerith can't be the one to save Cloud because Aerith is going to be too focused on keeping Sephiroth away from Cloud and Tifa with a big ass white whisper barrier in the lifestream, and creating a safe zone for Tifa exist in akin to the whale.
I can't even tell what his mission is anymore. In OG his plan was to kill all life on the planet with Meteor, and then when all the lifestream collected in one place, he'd be there to absorb it all and essentially be the God of creation, and start life anew in his own, horrifying image. That is, of course, if Jenova wasn't just planning on duping him to OMNOMNOM the energy.
Rebirth is harder to pin down. I suppose he realized killing one timeline branch means little, so he wants to merge them all, and kill everyone, everywhere, forever, but it seems more petty now. Like his mistreatment and ostracization as a child (as shown in ever crisis) is making him like a dark parallels to Cloud's lonerism.
>That is, of course, if Jenova wasn't just planning on duping him to OMNOMNOM the energy.
Jenova is just an extension of Sephiroth and does nothing on it's own, things like AC make this even more apparent when Sephiroth is still manipulating it from beyond the grave. I don't know why people want this non-character plot device to be 'the real main villain' it'd be pretty boring.
idk, i kinda want Jenova to get more fleshed out. She/It is supposedly an extraterrestrial being that eats planet energy, or is she native to the planet, and rival to the Cetra?
Also the Gi tribe maybe needs more explaining. Now suddenly they're "not of the planet", then where the frick are they from? Outer space? Another dimension?
There's a character who was in Ever Crisis, but honestly, Ever Crisis really doesn't go over anything of importance at the moment. If you played it, it really doesn't give youi any insight into the Glenn character as he plays out in Rebirth at all.
The only thing you get from Ever Crisis is that Glenn was part of a team of Soldiers before they were injected with Jenova crap, and Rebirth already mentions that in-game.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Ok, glad I didn't miss out on too much then. Still wondering who that Sarruf dude is
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Sarruf
Rufus
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Still wondering who that Sarruf dude is
He's only been mentioned in Rebirth so far, as far as I'm aware. Definitely not mentioned in Ever Crisis, at least not yet if ever.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Sarruf
Repeat "Rufus" out loud a couple of times anon
I don't even know why.
Marlene also says this in the original game. The only difference is that she says it right to Cloud's face and Cloud can either say "I hope so" to which Marlene says "I won't tell Tifa", or he can say "I don't know...", to which Marlene calls Cloud moronic.
I loved the Zero Escape series and thought their method of jumping between timelines was fun. Even ZTD was hella fun and shows that these stories can work. Its sequel series AI The Somnium Files did pretty much the same thing too.
It seems like he was just trying to trick Cloud or play mind games with him. There wasn't really anything else to it; unless they do some sort of big reveal in part 3.
Can't choose just one when it comes to Nobuo. He genuinely created more than 10 dozen memorable songs. That's why he's the honest GOAT of gaming music.
As for some I can think off the top of my head..
1. Dancing Mad
2. Eternal Wind
3. Answers
4. Those who fight further
5. Red Wings
6. Rebel Army
7. Terra's Theme
8. To Zanarkand
9. A Place I'll Return to Someday
The list keeps going...
Like, there's just no way anyone else can make as many memorable songs as Nobuo has. There's a reason why he transcends gaming music and is considered one of the best composers of all time. He nails melody better than anyone else.
Do people really not pick up on the double meaning when Barret says "it better be a load you'll be able to carry" (not WILLING to carry) and gives him a firm stare like he's making sure Clouds going to keep his sanity for Tifa's sake? It's so fricking obvious Cloud/Aerith stuff is Cloud losing his sanity.
>It's so fricking obvious Cloud/Aerith stuff is Cloud losing his sanity. >Cloud being the only one who can see the tear in the sky is just him being a schizo bro
do you fricking hear yourself, anon?
>Wow so squeenix can actually make good games? I hope cbu3 is paying attention
That's what so incredibly frustrating. 16 sold better than Rebirth, even though Rebirth is infinitely better.
How much did Rebirth sell exactly? Also yea, 16 fricking failed. I told everyone that the Heavensward writer was a hack, and look what happened? He writes BORING shit just like Heavensward is, boring as frick.
They really need to stop doing Playstation only exclusives. The Playstation main install base only gives a frick about Call of Duty and NBA2K garbage shit games now. They don't fricking care about Final Fantasy.
We don't know. All we have is physical japanese numbers. (about 250k)
We don't have digital sales from Japanese, or any numbers outside of Japan.
What we do know is its the top seller on the playstation store digitally, so those numbers are going to be beefy.
And for international sales we can see online sites like Amazon showing it as the best selling game.
>about 250k
250k physical copies in Japan is actually really good though. Especially for a console where a good chunk don't even have the means to load physical media and are digital only.
Elden Ring only has 1,000,000 sales in Japan across all platforms in two years but 22,000,000 everywhere else. By Ganker doomposter and youtube outrage merchant standards (The standard being Japanese sales somehow mattering), Elden Ring was also a colossal flop.
I partially give a frick because I think FF should iterate on these systems going forward rather than re-inventing the wheel all over again past 7R3.
I'm still happy to get 7R3 and play that when it happens, but it would've been nice if Square could be "back".
Yeah, 16 was so bad compared to Rebirth. Felt more like a spin-off
You know I actually liked 16, but this game puts it to shame in every fricking way. Yoshitpiss in fricking shambles. Why did they use a director that literally hated ff games?
I didn't hate 16 or anything thought it was OK, but I just don't like how they made it more of an action game than an rpg. Mainline titles should always be more focused on rpg elements imo.
Takai didn't want chocobos, moogles, tonberries, cactuars, etc. Which is not a HUGE deal, but the real issue was he didn't want any fricking levity at all, just serious grim and depressing shit. Yoshitpiss actually had to force the chocobos and moogle in.
Yea but guess what... FF16's "dark storyline" wasn't even that fricking dark... It was a fricking cop-out especially with you-know-who surviving.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>accept the truth, he's dead and you were responsible >lol nvm bro
1 month ago
Anonymous
It was very dark dude. Even if he lived.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No it wasn't. Why was it "dark" exactly? Because a few villains died? Some people died on screen? Yea that's cool and different for an FF game, but there's no psychological darkness to any of the characters, and neither is it explained well at all. Odin was just a crazy guy too, there's no backstory to him at all when you meet him.
They also kill off THE BEST character like 30% into the game... It fricking sucked man.
How much did Rebirth sell exactly? Also yea, 16 fricking failed. I told everyone that the Heavensward writer was a hack, and look what happened? He writes BORING shit just like Heavensward is, boring as frick.
Yeah, 16 was so bad compared to Rebirth. Felt more like a spin-off
I skipped 16 because I didn't care much for the demo. What was wrong with it?
It's fun enough. The music is really good. The story is good. The combat is good. But there's nothing to do outside of fighting enemies. And the side quests, while they do share details about characters and the world VERY WELL, are fricking boring
The sidequests are even worse than FF14 sidequests... Which is astonishing how they managed to make them even more boring. But I told everyone that the Heavensward writer, writes boring shit... and looks like I was correct.
No they don't.
The Heavesnward writer was the writer of FF16, but he did not write the entirety for FF14.
Shadowbringers and Endwalker are written by an entirely different person, and the characters in those expansions actually have personality and there's levity, also the writing is good for a seriously toned story, unlike Heavensward-fart fest.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Shadowbringers was decently written and improved the worst part of the story, only for Endwalker to torpedo it with depression bird.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you thought Endwalker was bad, you don't understand the ultimate plot point of FF14 and it went totally over your head. That's nobodies fault but your own.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>you don't understand the ultimate plot point of FF14 and it went totally over your head
holy fricking christ every single JRPG since the dawn of time had the exact same point, you don't need to shill the shit so heavily
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh you're just stupid then, nice. I can just ignore you completely, thanks for letting me know.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Genshit
as if your opinion wasn't worthless enough
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you like 14 your opinion is worth less than a genshitter.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you like 14 your opinion is worth less than a genshitter.
>"You play X game, you're a worthless human being!"
Lol, confirmed for being mentally moronic. Pretty sure my jawline isn't caved in like your guys' is. Also I'm over 30 and not bald, feels great.
1 month ago
Anonymous
14 is trash, frog moron *nods*
Also you literally just dismissed them for playing genshin, hypocrite moron confirmed
1 month ago
Anonymous
>XIVtard >Genshitter >frogposter
trifecta of degeneracy. Go return yourself to the Planet, moron.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You're just fricking angry that anyone could possibly enjoy any game made past the year 1999... You fricking old bald frick. If anyone is returning to the planet soon, it's you.
I'm just not a nostalgia dick rider, I actually enjoy modern day games too. Will be playing Dragons Dogma 2 in a few days, and it'll be great, while you're still speed running Ocarina of Time and Jerking off to Princess Peach.
1 month ago
Anonymous
anon what the frick are you talking about
1 month ago
Anonymous
>over 30 >playing Genshit and FFXIV >frogposting
Anon, I...
1 month ago
Anonymous
>holy fricking christ every single JRPG since the dawn of time had the exact same point, you don't need to shill the shit so heavily
Name what the one point of every single JRPG since the dawn of time has been and I'll name three that don't match your criteria.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Only good thing about Endwalker was Zodiark and Hydaleyn stuff. Other than that Shadowbringers steals the cake.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well, what is this life-changing plot point so poignant that it can make me give a shit about the Scions, the half-assed apocalypse or the Ancients?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Not about to explain it to you, an obvious psychopath who think anything remotely emotional is for homosexuals or a weakness. I know better than to talk about such things on this website with furiously close minded people.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I understood the plot perfectly, it was just poorly told. You're not intelligent. There's no deep, secret meaning to FF14 that a middle schooler can't grasp.
Personally I think they're better than 14, the quests were fleshing out the world and my favorite part was hearing what the characters had to say. Actually doing the quests was miserable
As for 14, I skip all the cutscenes and dialog. Frick that shit. I'm not watching a character nod for the millionth time.
>The sidequests are even worse than FF14 sidequests...
Elaborate on how they are bad.
They are nothing like MMO fetch quests.
That is the most common complaint, about Remake.
They fixed that with having every quest tell you something about the world and the characters in it.
You are really reaching for something to shit on the game for.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>They are nothing like MMO fetch quests.
Uh you sure about that some of them are just straight up "go collect stuff" quests right out of XIV
1 month ago
Anonymous
Where?
i have done every quest bro. Every item you do pick up has a story as to why you are doing it. Stop lying.
It even links in to the protoreclic with Broden. The NPC who helps you, turns up in the Nibel area as part of the on going story line about degradation. >WEELL U PICK UP ITEMS
So? You do that in Witcher 3 and every other acclaimed RPG ever made. Everyside quest has a story in rebirth.
1 month ago
Anonymous
We're talking about XVI bro the frick are you on about
>What was wrong with it?
They promised a "dark" storyline, but they did a cop-out by making Clives main motivation return from the dead, and the final boss is an asspull character that nobody fricking cares about. Also there's no exploration and the entirety of every zone you go to is empty large corridors.
If you go off to explore some corner of the empty map, you might find 2 gil... and im not even fricking joking. TWO GIL as a reward...
16 had a decent enough base, but the gameplay and quest design just does not hold up well for the length of a modern FF game. They needed to cut down the length of the game, back to like FF4 levels of length.
There were also way too many main quests that should've been side quests, and vice-versa.
I played the demo, combat was annoying as frick coming off of ffviiRB. The only reason i'd buy it is for the eyecandy. The story seems like it's just japanese GoT's.
It's more than that. IMO wait for a sale, but it's always better to play the game yourself so you can give your own genuine opinion. Game is not horrible.
>combat was annoying as frick coming off of ffviiRB
I wouldn't even dream of recommending someone to play 16 after 7 Rebirth. I enjoyed my time with 16, but it doesn't play well at all in comparison. Same with 15 compared to 7 Rebirth.
In an ideal world, Square moves foward in future FF games iterating on the 7R systems. But Square gonna Square.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, they should either stick to Rebirth's combat system or go back to turn based. Turn based games can still be popular and sell well.
It's great and fun and the music and characters are great and the titan fight and bahamut fights are the most next gen things I've seen and MOG by-God of War on the god of war sense of scale. But it's babbs first dmc and not an dog at all
I give it an 8.5/10 tbh I wish more people bought it so square didn't take the esg bux and stood by their "no blacks frick kotaku" montra for rebirth
>no blacks frick kotaku for rebirth
a remake of a game made in 1997 with a black man having a black man in it is now woke...ffs. i get it if youre talking about that shirtless old chocobo man who felt the need to tell tifa and aerith he was gay but, really?
Like 40% of the npcs are black
every group has to have a token black shoved in
it's esg pandering and you're a corpo shill for defending it, and I literally work at Goodyear in a manager position so I am LITERALLY A CORPO Shill who holds esg meetings and I am less of one than you
1 month ago
Anonymous
nta, and some of the woke stuff in games gets annoying to me and all
but this really feels like nothing at all and I don't get the going nuts over this here. it's literally just npcs with nothing being pushed, not like oppression being shoved in our face out of nowhere
>so square didn't take the esg bux and stood by their "no blacks frick kotaku" montra for rebirth
I'm not advocating for Black folk in games, but you realize Barret Wallace exists in FF7 right? Why the frick would he be the ONLY black guy in FF7? Are you stupid or something?
Aerith is almost guaranteed to show up in the lifestream segment. They've tied her death and burial scene to Cloud's mental state so that it's something he has to deal with just like with the truth of the nibelheim incident. And it's something only Aerith herself can really help with, Tifa can't do it.
The devs said pretty plainly they wanted to keep Aerith and Tifa scenes equal, which is why they added a bunch of new Tifa scenes in Remake and Rebirth where Aerith was the main focus in the OG, and now that we're getting to the point where Tifa is the focus we're going to see the other side of that and get new Aerith scenes.
Finally beat the game, I'm glad I didn't log in to this shithole for the last two weeks because this might be the best gaming experience I've had since Devil May Cry 5. Now to grind out some shit before I decide to give up because that Johnny trophy seems like some total goddamn bullshit.
I just beat it a couple hours ago too. Glad I took a week of PTO for this. Game was so fun, but I hope they tone it down with the mini-games for the next one.
I didn't like Queen's Blood at first, but it really grew on me when you unlock more cards. I still like Fort Condor better though. Was disappointed when it was only brought back for that protorelic quest only. Hope they bring it back in full for part 3
We have no idea if it's flopping. Japanese physical sales are down, but that's mostly due to Japan not really liking the PS5 (nogaems, Sony JP studio shutdown, lack of portability, no point in an expensive/large home console you can't play since you're at your salaryman job till 11pm).
Also, no digital sales or western sales published yet. Though SE did say the games sales were lagging bit.
The ending is obviously going to be happy this time and Aerith will survive. With Aerith surviving, Rufus will find the promised land and use Shinra to help revive the planet.
If they just go and make FF6 remake with the same quality as FF7R i'll be a happy man... I'll be old as frick by the time it comes out, but i'll be happy....
Apparently FF7 doesn't have that much of a pull anymore, because Rebirth isn't selling very well. And japs don't give a FRICK about console games outside of Nintendo anymore.
Western audiences want gay bear sex now too, they hate anime shit.
So besides Rufus the only kther charavter that randomly can is Cissnei? Shes going to play a big role in the third game when they decide to explain why she has this power
any straight-forward viewing of the game and the story would tell you that Cloud is in love with Tifa. Are Gankerers intentionally trolling and being obtuse or can they really no understand a simple story?
I'm convinced they can't. They either overcomplicate it and imagine bullshit that doesn't exist like peek LOST theorizing. Or just stay silent. I can't tell if the fanbase is moronic or i'm just as schizo as Cloud is at this point.
people are being dishonest. theres clear cloti scenes and clear clerith scenes in the game but because it is the game with Aerith dies they have to buildup to it with a loss on clouds end when she dies
I forgot the part in the OG where there were two realities which Tifa both died and survived and then the game makes us question if she has a scar or not.
Because you can see in that scene, and literally in that screenshot, her eyes are closed the entire time as she's about to fade into unconsciousness.
Get your sternum caved in by a super human alien hybrid monster's 7 foot long katana and take a tumble down a bunch of metal stairs. See how well you hold up.
This is the Assess for Bizzaro Sephiroth btw... Literally shows his motive and how he's the ressurected OG Sephy who's come back and trying to frick with fate.
But didn't he just merge with the lifestream and come back as Jenova's puppet? That's who Sephiroth always was, wasn't he? He's also the purest Jenova specimen in the first place, is he not? I forget OG's exact story but I'm pretty sure I'm correct.
That's how intelligent people understand the story but compilation bullshit for moronic teenagers decided Sephiroth is the coolest and most strongest and was actually controlling Jenova all along and he didn't get mindfricked into freeing her the moment he got inside her psychic range actually Genesis just made him mad.
Sephiroth literally uses Jenova's body parts as disposable bodies
1 month ago
Anonymous
You mean Jenova shapeshifts into Sephiroth because she's a shapeshifter. Looking only at the original game, Sephiroth is assimilated into Jenova. The reason you see "Sephiroth" is because that's the way she baits Cloud to the Reunion. Maybe you didn't notice the boss names >Jenova Birth >Jenova Life >Jenova Death >Sephiroth Rebirth (Reberso, Bizarro)
She just assimilated Sephiroth and was molting into a new form with him as her new brain.
Sephirot is the vessel for God's (Jehova's) will, gamers are just secular morons and miss the religous parallels.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Jenova's body is literally used as a vessel for Sephiroth's will in the game
1 month ago
Anonymous
Jenova's will is Sephiroth's will and vice versa, there isn't one using the other. Can your American brain understand dialectics?
1 month ago
Anonymous
This moron never wondered why when Sephiroth gets to Nibelheim he instantly starts losing his fricking mind and decides he randomly wants to set her free and eat the planet with her.
It's time travel, not multiverse.
And FF1 did it right plain and simple.
WRONG.
They create a multiverse and have to correct it WITH a timeloop.
You lost.
Multiverse is canon in Final Fantasy.
Stay angry.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They makes absolutely no sense.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are you stupid? In one timeline, Chaos wins. In another timeline, Chaos loses. It's literally MULTIPLE TIMELINES
How stupid are you?
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's one timeline they just change the past, there is never multiple worlds existing concurrently.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Any time travel creates multiple timelines and multiple possibilities tho. The fact that time travel has been a thing in FF since the start, proves that stuff deal with time itself is NOT new to the franchise.
For frick sakes, I saw people complain about Gilgamesh being in FF7 Rebirth. FF7 OG fans are fricking insane and still don't think this game is a Final Fantasy game.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Any time travel creates multiple timelines and multiple possibilities tho.
Source? >he fact that time travel has been a thing in FF since the start, proves that stuff deal with time itself is NOT new to the franchise.
Time travel is not alternate versions of the same universe. Final Fantasy VIII has time travel too and that is just a time loop too. >For frick sakes, I saw people complain about Gilgamesh being in FF7 Rebirth. FF7 OG fans are fricking insane and still don't think this game is a Final Fantasy game.
Just because Gilgamesh is a FF staple doesn't mean people have to like his inclusion, you can just disagree with them instead of overanalysing a simple complaint.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Source?
Beating Chaos and changing the timeline proves that there are multiple outcomes.
Just because you ARE the protagonist and can't really lose due to plot armor, doesn't mean that Chaos didn't win in one reality.
Also this anon proved that FF7R's Gaia is not really a Multiverse
You don't have a multiverse.
You have a series of timelines that split off from the lifestream itself.
The timelines are not infinite, as the lifestream can only sustain so many before the lifestream reclaims what little Mako it needed to form that timeline in the first place.
This is why when we get to the Biggs and Zack scene, the planet has no mako left and it's doomed, despite the exact same point in time in the main timeline still having plenty of lifestream left. This is also why Sephiroth and Aerith can travel between them. Because they're all linked by one lifestream. >Alternate timeline blinks into existence. >Timeline gets a little lifestream. >Lifestream reclaims itself and closes off the timeline. >The timeline fractures and dies, presumably blinking out of existence.
It's not a multiverse. A multiverse implies that there's a bunch of layered near identical universes with their own Gaia and each Gaia has it's own seperate lifestream.
Sephiroth literally says that these "new realities" when breaching fate, collapse back in on themselves. "Even the most resilient of worlds, fades away".
Why are people butthurt when Gaia can literally shit out Time Materia magic in little orbs too? The entire planet they're on is magical in nature, it only stands to reason that funky shit would happen when you're that deep in the Lifestream.
None of what Rebirth is doing to the story is that out of place. Plus we don't even know anything till part 3 explains Sephiroths ultimate goals and what he's really trying to accomplish here.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The problem with the whole alternate timeline shit isn't that it isn't consistent with VII's lore, it's that it's confusing and cheapens the ending of the game.
In the original, Aerith's death is sudden and poignant. In Rebirth it's convoluted and drawn out. Sephiroth being a timelord doesn't make him more interesting as a character. He's still just an evil edgelord with very basic motivations.
Nomura is just being Nomura again, writing a bunch of needlessly complicated bullshit that won't pay off.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Nomura is just being Nomura again, writing a bunch of needlessly complicated bullshit that won't pay off.
I doubt it was Nomura, Nojima is the one doing the writing.
Can someone make a webm of when, during the Skywheel date, when aerith accidentally falls into clouds arms, they move away, sit down slowly, then look the opposite direction at the same time?
Shit was adorable lol.
My fav part is when she motions for cloud to sit next to her and he promptly sits across from her. Clerithgays on suicide watch. I mean, she has to practically force herself on him, he just doesnt want to be rude.
>just an awkward dip shit >literally pulls tifa in for a hug then kisses her
sounds like he knows what he wants. stop victim shaming, men are allowed to say no too and if they aren't giving you an in don't force yourself on them. That's non-consensual. Aerith is a rapist.
Neither Tifa nor Aerith know Cloud is pretending to be a completely different person. But they're both well aware of the fact that he's not being himself.
You don't have a multiverse.
You have a series of timelines that split off from the lifestream itself.
The timelines are not infinite, as the lifestream can only sustain so many before the lifestream reclaims what little Mako it needed to form that timeline in the first place.
This is why when we get to the Biggs and Zack scene, the planet has no mako left and it's doomed, despite the exact same point in time in the main timeline still having plenty of lifestream left. This is also why Sephiroth and Aerith can travel between them. Because they're all linked by one lifestream. >Alternate timeline blinks into existence. >Timeline gets a little lifestream. >Lifestream reclaims itself and closes off the timeline. >The timeline fractures and dies, presumably blinking out of existence.
It's not a multiverse. A multiverse implies that there's a bunch of layered near identical universes with their own Gaia and each Gaia has it's own seperate lifestream.
I fricking hate myself for spending 100 hours on this garbage. I wanted to like it as much as the original but it's just nonstop MCU banter and bullshit cameo fanservice in between clunky half-assed button-mashy wannabe action RPG combat. 4/10, hope the series tanks (though I don't have to hope hard, way sales are looking).
>play 100hrs on something >don't have fun
I pray to God you use your time like this in ocd hyper focus autism ways in things the ti prove your life and not just wasting it doing things you don't enjoy so you can cry on anonymous forums
Do you have a masters degree?
>cut down on the mini games >cut down on the chadley marker shit >let me switch cloud out of the party >replace the shitty main menu >remove the sephiroth/zack alternate timeline story entirely and find other ways to make them more prominent characters
It's so frustrating how close this game gets to being 10/10 at times, but there's just all this annoying bullshit getting in the way of fun. I honestly hope this game sells less than FFXVI and Remake to send Square a message that the game's a bloated, overdesigned mess and no one cares about compilation wankery aside from Nomura and the most diehard fujos FF7 fans.
This scene explain the SOLDIER well, he's moving fast enough to side step bullets from them. It also make Barret fear of Cloud snapping really have a meaning, normal people can't stop a SOLDIER tier guy ,and even the pos-Hojo Cloud is closer to what they did to Sephiroth than the normal ones.
The other scene where Cloud kill the 2nd class SOLDIER with Barret and Tifa looking powerless tell us that early part 3 will be rough for them.
This thread is fricking gay.
I'm gonna go jerk off to Aerith and Tifa getting gangbanged by monsters and random guys together. You people keep b***hing about Cloud being a schizo and which girl is going to lose in the end by ending up with Cloud or whatever.
Hey wait what that's fricking cool.
Do more.
Yo guys, real talk, can this be the thread now?
Like can we just talk about what this guy is doing instead?
Fricking glad I refreshed the thread one final time. Pulled me right back in you son of a b***h.
>alright son, here’s a story called the Odyssey. It’s about one of the greatest people who ever lived, Odysseus >MOM WHERE DID PEOPLE COME FROM >they came from Prometheus son, who built us out of clay >BUT MOM WHERE DID PROMETHEUS COME FROM >he was a titan, the son of Iapetus who lived in Tartarus >BUT MOM WHERE DID IAPETUS COME FROM >he was the son of Uranus, who ruled the sky >BUT MOM WHERE DID URANUS COME FROM >he was the son (and wife) of Gaea, who ruled the earth >BUT WAIT MOM WAIT WHERE DID GAEA COME FROM >she was formed from Chaos, the void state before creation >MOM WHERE THE FRICK DID THE VOID COME FROM >it was just there >WHAT THE FRICK MOM THIS LITERALLY EXPLAINS NOTHING, SUCH BULLSHIT THAT WE WILL NEVER KNOW THE TRUE MYSTERY BEHIND THE STORY OF THE ODYSSEY
>Tifacels trying to paint Aerith as some manic bipolar b***h when she canonically sacrificed her own life to save the world even if it's horrifically unfair to her
False.
In the original timeline, Aerith never intended to die. She specifically went there to pray for holy and fully intended to come back. She said as much.
Her knowing she's supposed to die is a Remake thing. OG never saw it coming.
I forgot burgers can't hold two conflicting ideas in their head at the same time (cloud loves both of them, and these relationships are necessary for his growth. Disc 3 and beyond he's with Tifa, remains to be seen whether this will be the case in the nuContinuity.)
suzie yeung is great >tfw she also voices the asian girl party member from infinite wealth, but the whole dub is fricked thanks to yongyea (and it's a yakuza game in the first place anyway)
it's sucks
She is but their interactions just made me think they have pretty much nothing in common other than growing up in the same place and most of their conversations are just Tifa talking about shit Cloud doesn't care about and him either being bored or going insane.
>most of their conversations are just Tifa talking about shit Cloud doesn't care about and him either being bored or going insane.
She's bringing up inane, boring shit from the past to see if Cloud actually remembers any of it.
>most of their conversations are just Tifa talking about shit Cloud doesn't care about and him either being bored or going insane.
She's bringing up inane, boring shit from the past to see if Cloud actually remembers any of it.
why would she try to get into a relationship with Cloud if she isnt even sure he is the real Cloud?
Anon she knows he's the real Cloud.
But he also knows shit he shouldn't. So she's trying to determine why.
It's not hard from all the random migraines that something is wrong with his head.
I really wish they made a few variations of the robed guys if they were going to make them such a big focus. Having them be completely identical is just silly. At least change the robes a bit.
Sorry. The same Nojima who said Tifa and Cloud have problems also said he'd probably have issues with Aerith if she was alive and in a relationship with him too.
Maybe don't expect sweet and wholesome romance from a bitter, 60 year old man who has no children and has never been married and refuses to share his views on the subject of marriage and families because he knows they'd be unpopular.
Can someone explain to me why they let Nomura write romance, exactly? Everything he writes is star crossed lovers this, one lover dies at the end that, troubled relationships out the ass.
The one relationship that *Kind* of ended happily was Squall and Rinoa, and that was only because he harvested the romantic misery from their parents.
No. No I'm pretty sure they don't get a happy ending.
They get an at best ambiguous ending.
There isn't even any mention of it in Dirge of Cerberus outside of Cid saying "Tifa wears the pants in that relationship".
That one line is all you have to go off of.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>ignores clouds entire character arc because he doesn't explicitly say "I am happy."
1 month ago
Anonymous
Don't mistake me, I'd love for them to have a big old happy ending.
But Nojima's comments on the matter don't exactly breed confidance.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why does he hate happy romantic relationships in his writings so much anyways?
1 month ago
Anonymous
That was literally my question.
It think it's because he's never experienced one and is bitter.
Hell, the man is responsible for Bahamut Lagoon. That should tell you all you need to know.
Nomura when asked if Cloud and Tifa are together after AC replied with "I honestly have no idea". This shit is ambigous at best and up to individual interpretation
1 month ago
Anonymous
To be fair, he doesn’t want to get killed by some obsessed schizo for saying the wrong thing
it's too bloated
shit is repetitive
The game is not perfect by a long shot, but goddamn was it a helluva ride.
The chadley shit was a slog. The green story quests were fine imo, as they developed the characters a bit.
Don't bother. In fact, I'm glad they let us know Remake data only gave bonuses and not file save transfer, so I know I don't have to put too much time into end game content for Rebirth either. Outside of checking for an old save, Part 3 probably won't transfer the save over either.
wait
what
your character level and gear don't carry over?
They do not. No. So if you power leveled your characters and materia in remake, you wasted your time.
However, the DLC/Bonus menu under "system" in the rebirth menu gives you some bonus items and materia for the following:
1. Having a Remake Save
2. Having an Intergrade Save
3. Having a Rebirth Demo Save (also lets you skip the Nibelheim segment partway through if you beat it in the demo).
Which sucks the data doesn't really carry over, but it's also a bit liberating to know I don't really have to 100% rebirth and just finish the story.
>your character level and gear don't carry over?
No. You start Rebirth at level 21.
Combat and abilities are very much rebalanced. MP is actually more of a resource now.
Hard to explain until combat starts really opening up.
>MP is actually more of a resource now.
Whut. It’s always been a “resource”
Compared to Remake. They've reduced the overall MP you have, and you actually need to be using your items more
Did you play Remake and Rebirth?
I think it feel like that because in Remake you have boxes to break everywhere, obviously in the open world no boxes so they gave us no MP usage elemental skills.
the no MP elemental skills are such bad uses of ATB though for Weakness exploiting, except in the cases where it's enough to pressure the enemy.
The lighting in this game looks really weird
It is sunny on Costa del Sol.
shit game
are there any rewards for doing the hardmode for fort condor / gears and gambits or is it just trophy shit?
>are there any rewards for doing the hardmode for fort condor / gears and gambits
Nope. Only do them if you want the trophy.
>are there any rewards for doing the hardmode
the moron of the year award goes to you my friend
It makes the game actually enjoyable to play since there's an actual challenge. It's also why I didn't do most of the side stuff until AFTER beating the game.
They give party exp. You can't get max party level for your last folio skills without them.
reddit fantasy 7: redditbirth
It sold no physical copies at the Pennsylvania Walmart that deals with the Amish, so it was a flop. Literally not one person bought the game.
Why is performance mode in both the latest mainline ff games trash? I played intergrade and its 100x better in that.
>Why is performance mode in both the latest mainline ff games trash?
how is it trash? its smooth FPS on my machine.
dont tell me you play on graphics mode...
Smooth fps but the graphics suffer immensley, in ffxvi the graphics never suffer but the framerate is all over the place.
not coping but i genuinely didn't notice any difference . I have a 3080Ti so im not a peasant when it comes to graphics either. I just have a lower expectation for the PS5 and rebirth has satisfied that bar pretty well.
Post a screenshot with Vincent next time
Vincent is a loner.
That's a pretty picture, but where is the soul??
here
Top-tier villain
>2 brutal combat simulator
>be doing good and reach round 9/10 after 20 min
>some enemy I don't even remember fighting shows up and does some attack that leaves a party member in a tree cage
>he does it again
>and yet again
>slowly kills each one since none can move and I can't do anything
>google wtf happened and turns out it's unavoidable and you have to kill the enemy to release a party member
>who decided to include cheap deaths like this?
just like the final boss with his bullshit 1hp atack and imediate follow up. dont react instantly? have fun replaying 30 minutes of fights and unskipable cutscenes.
Oh noooooo I have to learn what the boss does and strategize noooooo this game suxxorssssss
stfu, it's cheap bullshit
Nooooooo the final boss uses cheap bullshit wowwwww this is sooooo lame waahhhhh ;_;
It's even funny because it's FF, for exemple when I did the Tonberry boss I knew full well that he would surely oneshoot my characters with his dagger, it's accepted, but to a guy who never played a FF he would wipe really fast, and call it cheap, when in truth some mobs have special abilities in a RPG , abilities that you can't always predict the first time around.
Thing is, why should we consider "new" players?
Every FF fan knows what a Tonbery is and what it does.
It is the same morons that demand to start watching a movie series at the 5th entry and complain they have 0 idea who anyone is.
My point is that you can be surprised by the mechanism of a boss, I for exemple did need to restart some battle because my team only had one thunder user when the boss was only vulnerable to thunder (like the scarlet fight if you don't bring 3 thunder materia the arms take forever to break). It's normal, I can't expect to go to every fight knowing all the mechanisms already.
But that is normal for games, not even counting JRPGs.
A boss stomps you, you get a game over and then you refine your strat to beat it.
Rebirth is getting a gold star just for the fact it has gimmick fights like that.
I refuse to budge on the "set it and forget it" Materia system you seem to advocating for.
Let the gays fail, at best they look up a guide and get good or worse, they frick off out of the fandom and go shit up somewhere else.
I was saying that its a good thing btw, to counter the one that didn't like the 1hp mechanism as it caught him (and me) off-guard, it's something that is expected to happen in games, you can't prepare for everything, sometimes you will hit that retry button.
Yes it sucks and it's not just the final boss, theres plenty of 1 hp left enemy attacks in the game and the whole tree cage bullshit
I haven't enjoyed a JRPG this much in two goddamn decades. I fricking love this game.
Sucks it's not selling that well, because I'd love for FF to continue down this style, but it probably won't past 7R3.
Exactly this. I’m at chapter 9, 50 hours played, doing full clears of each area before moving on.
Absolutely fricking loving every second.
Gongoga broke my full clear streak. Place was so annoying to navigate i gave up 50% through and came back later.
>hahaha yellow paint!!! Fricking newbies ruining gaming, stupid npcs needing to be told where to go...
>IS THAT NOT A STRAIGHT LINE? I HAVE TO USE INTERNAL MAP NAVIGATION AND MAP OUT ROUTES OH NONONONONONO AHHHHHH TASTAKE YELLOW PAINT SAMA
That's u pussy
It is like the eternal moronic Ganker hot take of
>WTF THIS GAME IS JUST CORRIDORS
For the first game
>WTF THE WORLD IS TOO BIG
For the second.
Ganker can never pick a lane and stay on it.
Anon, I am perfectly fine with curated hallway games. I knew FF7 past midgar is more open world, but I was not ready for the collectathon bullshit ruining the pace
That's because it actually tries to be one instead of just simple nostalgia bait with pixel graphics
Same here. I did love XV too, but Rebirth is obviously way more polished and cohesive. I think I’ve outgrown JRPGs overall, so Rebirth is a wonderful surprise.
Good. All the bloated padding these games have needs to die
That's the weird part about Rebirth. It doesn't feel bloated to me, like 90% of the optional content is actually fun for me.
Remake felt bloated as hell to me and needed to be shorter and trimmed a bit.
Aerith
I love you
Marry me
Dilly dally
>cloud will never look at tifa like this
He literally will in the true Nibelheim flashback when he thinks Sephiroth just murdered Tifa and he has his little autistic sperg out tard rage moment demanding Tifa, his mom, and his home back.
someone post the webm
Sounds like some cope. Also it was his mom, tifa and the town. In that order.
>Also it was his mom, tifa and the town. In that order.
I wasn't being a stickler on the order, Anon. Because it doesn't detract from the point. Hell, makes sense he'd say his mom first. You know. Since it's his mom. There are plenty of girls out there. But you only get one mom.
Unless you're Sephiroth. Then you get a mom and a space mom.
He'd probably say the shit about fricking Barret if he died who cares
>"Remaking" one game into three games
It makes sense if you actually played it, and it doesn't feel like a cash grab at all. I know people gonna funpost about it anyway, so all good.
damn you drank the koolaid
like I said, I get it. funposting is fun.
Played both. They're caahgrabs, 100%.
>and it doesn't feel like a cash grab at all.
I disagree, the first game felt like a blatant cash grab. If they wanted to have something with narrative competence as well as multiple products to sell they would have ended game 1 after Cloud gives Sephiroth the black materia.
>Cid got soified to death.
Frick you.
Bits of his original personality come out when he's stressed/pissed.
Playable Rufus
Spin off Rufus
Episode Rufus
I love him so much it's unreal, why did they make him so perfect?
remember when she said this to Tifa after she walked out of a room alone with Cloud?
She's so pretty
This scene actually has subtitles in French for some reason lol She says "Everything will be all right"
Do you like the French VAs?
How do you compare with English ones?
I play with English VA's, just the subs are in french
>When a Tifakek loses, slithers away, and doesn't reply
>gradually I grew to hate them
I prefer turn-based games so I'm not playing the remake
FF7 wasn't turned based, and both are ATB
I agree X mogs VIi tho
no
Is this the game with most amount of genuinely attractive npcs? Named or not
>the best party member is demoted to an uber driver
shit game
>this fight on hard mode
What the FRICK were they smoking?
Swift cast and magnify fire with a atb stagger
Could also combo up magic focus with a fire to get them down faster.
Just be ready to dodge round the rocks
I don't understand what is the problem are you bad
i heard you don't even get to play as Cid, is that fricking true
BAHAHAHAHA
maybe in the final game for the last 2 hours then, huh?
Why are Nintendo indians going back to this doompost? Everyone knew Cid wouldn't be playable like a year ago
why did they ruin the saving of Clouds memories in part 2? that means no lifestream Tifa saving Cloud in part 3 because Cloud already knows Zack, Tifa remembers Nibelheim already. The only thing left to discover is that Cloud thought he was Zack
They sort of show that things are connecting incorrectly in Cloud's head, in order to "make sense" of the inconsistency.
but then Tifa wont save Cloud and Clerith will win in part 3
To make way for more Aerith drama.
They don't want Tifa and Cloud to get too close
That sounds more like they’re pushing Tifa/Aerith, to be honest.
I can't believe they gave Clerith the water tower. Especially after there was a dialog about it back in Kalm.
Look at the entire dialogue of that scene. She is teasing Cloud for liking Tifa
Let's be real, she's teasing him for having a crush on her like 10 years ago when he was a kid. Tifakeks please stop denying reality
Makes more sense for Cloud to still have a crush on Tifa now than it does for him to be madly, head over heels in love with a girl he met two weeks ago.
Why? It's not like love is a logical thing.
does it really?
>trying to apply real life timescales to fictional romances
Ask me how I know you're a moron
to apply real life timescales to fictional romances
>Ask me how I know you're a moron
If I don't get to apply real life timescales to a fictional romance, then why do all Aerithgays get to do it when they get all "LMAO HE HAD A CRUSH 10 YEARS AGO!" in an attempt to dismiss Cloud's affection for Tifa now?
It's no different than when you people pull up the AC Nojima quote about Cloud and Tifa's relationship being strained in AC, but conveniently gloss over the bit in the same quote where he says "Maybe it'd be different if Aerith was alive, but even then Aerith carries a burden" meaning Cloud would be a mopey, miserable frick in AC with either of these women.
Or how you're quick to say all of Tifa's scenes only happen in non-canon, optional cutscenes but in the same breath say Aerith's optional scenes are actually canon for arbitrary reasons. Or how people will point out when Tifa does have some scenes, just like Aerith does, outside of the optional stuff but you dismiss those too and pretend shit plays out different. Can't tell you how many times I've seen you people say Cloud was disinterested in Tifa in the Gongaga scene and Tifa was doing all the leaning in for a kiss even though Cloud was moving in first.
That's why people get annoyed with Aerithgays. You grasp at every straw you can to hold your positive bits up on a pedestal while dismissing anything that goes against your narrative instead of looking at all of it objectively.
In the OG game, Cloud's brain is scrambled eggs and he doesn't get better until after Aerith dies. She never got to know the real Cloud and this, no matter how much you wish otherwise, is canon. And it's still Canon.
And every single one of you who thinks the third game is going to go wildly off the rails when the first two games kept all the same story beats just so they can turn the third game into a Tifa Lockhart humiliation simulator are delusional.
you are the delusional shippergay. Aerith is merged with the lifestream which means she knows who the real cloud is and she fell in love with him. your incel fantasies of a big-titty girlfriend will never come to pass. Tifa will be watching from the back-lines as Cloud and Aerith get married at the end of part 3. Maybe if Zack survives Tifa can get the scraps
>Maybe if Zack survives Tifa can get the scraps
Cissnei
Zack has Cissnei. Tifa can get with Barret
johnny*
Barret is 15 years older than Tifa. and hes black.
>Barret is 15 years older than Tifa
Being with a partner 15 years your senior is a much bigger problem for men than it is for women.
Red XIII*
best Scarlet lewds?
Why are flatties always so jealous of big breasts women? You love to pretend they are worse person just to make yourself feel better lmao
because flatties were used as pump n dumps by Chad and the women had to watch on as their Chads went off and married big tity stacies instead of them and it drives them mad. but Chad always wins
Because they don't want to accept stacies can also be good people.
It's like when Bleach had that ending, Rukiagays hated how the nice cowtitty WON
They think men like girls with over the top personality instead of some comfy wife with huge breasts
over the top personality irl is most likely manic. avoid at all costs.
This is literally why most sane white men like Tifa.
>Calm, patient, and loyal
>Enjoys casual conversation
>Good with children
>Capable of having fun in a normal way
>Good cook and can mix drinks
>Big fat knockers
>Stays in shape
11/10 real life wife material. Aerith and especially Yuffie's shit would get annoying real quick.
Sounds incredibly boring
Most men would love to be with a "boring", big boobs woman over le quirky flatty b***h
As soon as another Soldier fell on her church she would flirt with him too
>Sounds incredibly boring
No, Aerith and Yuffie just sound incredibly tiresome.
anon, all of those apply to Aerith as well
>flat chest
>doesnt drink
>socially awkward
Lol no they dont. she's like that awkward gf that your friend brings along to hang out with the friend group but no one can have a good time when she's around. then when u break up all your friends tell you they thought she wasnt good for you anyway. kek.
You are coping so hard it's insane
>>flat chest
drink
awkward
Oh no!? She's awkward because she was ostracized as a kid. You know who else was ostracized when they were young? Cloud.
Also the entire group in FF7 adores her so what the frick are you even talking about.
Anon we're not even talking about in-universe right now.
We're talking about which girl has the qualities a real life man would prefer.
Keep up with the conversation chain.
Aerith's personality works fine on some bombastic adventure across the world fighting monsters and shit.
But if you're just some guy who works ten hours to day to provide for a family and want to come home to a pleasant woman and some good kids, Tifa is preferable.
Are we talking about Tifa that got Cloud involved in a terrorist cell literally days after reuniting with him?
And Aerith who just tried to stay out of trouble and sells flowers?
Now your argument is Tifa isn't boring? Pick a lane.
who said anything about boring you moron, you implied Aerith would not be down for a simple family life, while Tifa would be. Which is fricking stupid, because both would absolutely be fine with it, it's just a difference of character, not lifegoals.
No moron, i said tifa would be better at a simple family life. Eco-terririst over my wife constantly being stalked by the government and having to save her because she cant do anything herself any day.
>And Aerith who just tried to stay out of trouble and sells flowers?
Aerith actively seeks out trouble, what are you smoking?
Yes, if someone needs help. Not going around bombing shit for the planet, which is ironic because you'd expect her as a Cetra to be the one going around committing eco-terrorism.
Tifa didn't want to do that either, she had huge doubts and tells Cloud she feels trapped in Remake
>which is ironic because you'd expect her as a Cetra to be the one going around committing eco-terrorism.
Early drafts of the game, she was.
Aerith and Tifa were one character at some point during conception. There was even a point in time where Aerith's physical design was just Tifa while they were jumbling around trying to finalize it.
They went with the design they did because they decided that Aerith and Sephiroth were supposed to be siblings.
But then that went out the window, and Nomura also really wanted to use the Tifa design he made, so they then decided on a love triangle.
Hell, Aerith's first SOLDIER boyfriend wasn't even Zack in one draft. It was Sephiroth.
This game has had some pretty crazy development history and there are a hundred different ways it could have gone.
Honestly if they were going to do a remake but not a remake, in hindsight, it would have been cool if they just did a retelling using a bunch of elements from early OG game production that never made it past the cutting room floor. Then the original game remains untouched, and you still get the same basic premise, but everything is new and different while also being familiar.
But maybe I just suck at ideas and that would have been horrible. Idk.
>They went with the design they did because they decided that Aerith and Sephiroth were supposed to be siblings.
>Hell, Aerith's first SOLDIER boyfriend wasn't even Zack in one draft. It was Sephiroth.
Kinky
Wasn't Sephiroth her brother at first? That's why they have similiar hair
>Hell, Aerith's first SOLDIER boyfriend wasn't even Zack in one draft. It was Sephiroth.
This actually would've been pretty interesting
Wasn't she originally scheduled to be Sephiroths sister? Hence the somewhat similar hairstyles and face
Yeah, and then he was written as her lover in the next outline. The sister thing still partially survives as Sephiroth believing him and Jenova are Cetra
Yes the fictional characters like her in the fictional world because thats what its supposed to be. We're talking irl though, and irl that's 100% what she would be. Stop getting so defensive just because you relate most to aerith. hit a sore spot i see.
It's acceptable for men to be loners. Not the case for women.
>It's acceptable for men to be loners
anon, people keeping their distance and leaving alone is not the same thing as those people thinking it's "acceptable"
Cloud was a loner by choice. Aerith was ostracized. Thats how it works for women.
>>flat chest
drink
awkward
as if those are deal-breakers you colossal homosexual
Flat chest and doesn't drink honestly aren't deal breakers.
But socially awkward gets real old real fricking fast. At first it's quirky and cute. But you quickly reach a point where the girl is still socially awkward when you're around and the charm quickly dies.
all three of those things tell me she doesnt know how to unwind. that's 90% of a relationship battle after work and on the weekends. Im not saying she needs to be an alcoholic, Tifa isn't one.
agreed. she's the best fictional woman of all time.
She's has zero screen presence and is fricking boring to watch.
>>Big fat knockers
If youre 18 maybe, men prefer woman with medium sized boobs
Tifa's are medium, hes exaggerating. Everyone knows big knockers are too heavy to have fun with. I'd put her breasts just slightly bigger than sweeneys.
Men think about their womans back, teenagers only want "muh big titts"
Come to think of it, Rukiakeks do remind me of Clerithgays with their interpretations and headcanons from normal dialogue.
Holy shit you are right, Aerithgays are the new Rukiagays
There was the whole Naruto getting the COW BOOBS girl over the flatty quirky girl
I never trust le quirky girl because they are always trying to compensate for something
>I never trust le quirky girl because they are always trying to compensate for something
When does Aerith ever do this
oh so you gays are just projecting onto Aerith
This is what I'm talking about
>you are the delusional shippergay.
In the same post as
>Tifa will be watching from the back-lines as Cloud and Aerith get married at the end of part 3. Maybe if Zack survives Tifa can get the scraps
Anyway, I'll address the only sentence in your post that matters.
>Aerith is merged with the lifestream which means she knows who the real cloud is and she fell in love with him
Aerith lost all of those memories when the whispers took them in Shinra tower. She doesn't gain them back until after the Temple of the Ancients when Cloud hops into the dream date timeline where the white materia still has all of her happy memories inside. Shortly after this, Aerith is killed again.
So while she could use the lifestream to find out about the real Cloud, she still hasn't MET the real Cloud. The real Cloud is still buried under false memories and Jenova's influence.
This is not hard to understand.
>in love with a girl he met two weeks ago
Is this the new template shitpost?
Tbf, the dialogue is still about Tifa.
What I like about Aerith is that she's not the jealous type and would rather have Cloud be honest about his feelings.
Aerith is not jealous at all because she does not see the doormat known as Tifa as a threat in the slightest.
she already knows from Advent Children that Cloud is more devoted to her corpse than Tifa.
NPTK makes it clear that she thinks (knows) that he loves her too and will find her.
Aerith and Clouds love story is so pure
The Zack stuff be a twist from another timeline and not part of Cloud's botched memories
>not part of Cloud's botched memories
Another timeline 🙂
You are a terrible person and insufferable to be around, I just thought you should know that 🙂
In another timeline we are best of buds, just remember that 🙂
does she look alive to you? seething timelinegay?
>rainbow effect of shifting timeline happens when Cloud blocks Sephiroth's assassination attempt
do people REALLY think Cloud is just being a schizo when he sees Aerith alive?
I'm thinking Cloud can now hop between multiverses
I feel like the dunk in the lifestream in Mideel will have more than just the True Nibelheim flashback.
Let Tifakeks mald. They think all the Zack scenes are made up. Its going to hilarious in part 3 when we find out Tifa did actually die and shes the one Cloud has been schizo over.
>No glitching
>Rainbows present
Tifagays seething
Everything in the rainbow timeline is fake and gay thats why its a rainbow
The bigger twist will be that Cloud is perfectly normal but everytime he "glitches" hes seeing a different timeline briefly.
I feel it was to explain how Tifa could survive a trip to the lifestream, in the original it's really weird, everyone act like failing into the lifestream === death or you become a moron, but somehow Tifa who isn't know for anything special manage to withstand that AND save Cloud's spirit.
They still make us do a 2nd trip later with Cloud but this time it will be
>"Tifa was able to do it because she already experienced this and was protected by that Whale weapon, now it's easier for her".
More likely scenario?
>Sephiroth is actively trying to turn Cloud against Tifa and get him to kill her to fully break him
>If he kills her, it will just push Cloud further in to the "I hate you Sephiroth" deep end and he might be harder to control.
>When in the Lifestream, Sephiroth sees an opportunity to be rid of the prostitute and Cloud will be none the wiser, even thinking he did it.
>He REALLY doesn't want Tifa around Cloud, because he knows what she's going to do.
>Sephiroth can still move around the lifestream with his dumb whispers.
Aerith can't be the one to save Cloud because Aerith is going to be too focused on keeping Sephiroth away from Cloud and Tifa with a big ass white whisper barrier in the lifestream, and creating a safe zone for Tifa exist in akin to the whale.
best scene from part 2
What do you think of Cloud isekai-ing to coma Cloud during the downtime before Mideel.
Crazy how after all those boss battles the best they could do was make Sephiroth take a knee for a second.
Is Sephiroth a jobber?
He doesn't even know why he's angry anymore
Is he even angry he seems to be having fun stalking Cloud
I can't even tell what his mission is anymore. In OG his plan was to kill all life on the planet with Meteor, and then when all the lifestream collected in one place, he'd be there to absorb it all and essentially be the God of creation, and start life anew in his own, horrifying image. That is, of course, if Jenova wasn't just planning on duping him to OMNOMNOM the energy.
Rebirth is harder to pin down. I suppose he realized killing one timeline branch means little, so he wants to merge them all, and kill everyone, everywhere, forever, but it seems more petty now. Like his mistreatment and ostracization as a child (as shown in ever crisis) is making him like a dark parallels to Cloud's lonerism.
>That is, of course, if Jenova wasn't just planning on duping him to OMNOMNOM the energy.
Jenova is just an extension of Sephiroth and does nothing on it's own, things like AC make this even more apparent when Sephiroth is still manipulating it from beyond the grave. I don't know why people want this non-character plot device to be 'the real main villain' it'd be pretty boring.
idk, i kinda want Jenova to get more fleshed out. She/It is supposedly an extraterrestrial being that eats planet energy, or is she native to the planet, and rival to the Cetra?
Also the Gi tribe maybe needs more explaining. Now suddenly they're "not of the planet", then where the frick are they from? Outer space? Another dimension?
>as shown in ever crisis
Are there any references to Ever Crisis in Rebirth? How important is Ever Crisis?
The frick do you think Glenn is?
He's an Ever Crisis character? I thought he was a brand new character introduced in Rebirth...
Guess I'll watch cutscenes on Youtube
There's a character who was in Ever Crisis, but honestly, Ever Crisis really doesn't go over anything of importance at the moment. If you played it, it really doesn't give youi any insight into the Glenn character as he plays out in Rebirth at all.
The only thing you get from Ever Crisis is that Glenn was part of a team of Soldiers before they were injected with Jenova crap, and Rebirth already mentions that in-game.
Ok, glad I didn't miss out on too much then. Still wondering who that Sarruf dude is
>Sarruf
Rufus
>Still wondering who that Sarruf dude is
He's only been mentioned in Rebirth so far, as far as I'm aware. Definitely not mentioned in Ever Crisis, at least not yet if ever.
>Sarruf
Repeat "Rufus" out loud a couple of times anon
No, he's a good guy.
If only I'd never known
All the burdens I was born to bear
Lived a life without a care
In the world save for you
But that won't do
Till the day that we meet again
On our street, I want to believe
In the chance that we'll share a glance
Promises to keep, we won't ever need
Till the day that we meet again
At our place, just let me believe
In the chance that you'll come take my hand
And never let me go
She looks so good with her hair down
Song was annoying and cringe.
>No scar
Tifa is dead
uh that corneo rap is suspiciously good
they give the human sex traffickers such awesome music in this game, both Gus and Corneo
kind of a weird sentence to be true
cringe game of the year
I hate Sephiroth so much.
what if Barret saves Cloti?
Unironically Barret is probably the biggest Cloud x Tifa shipper
And here Marlene is remembering Daddy's lesson.
Zack took it like a champ
Is it true people now hate her
All the Zack and Aerith shippers hate her
I don't even know why.
Marlene also says this in the original game. The only difference is that she says it right to Cloud's face and Cloud can either say "I hope so" to which Marlene says "I won't tell Tifa", or he can say "I don't know...", to which Marlene calls Cloud moronic.
She called him dummy.
Dummy. moron. Smega brain. Same thing.
Marlene is for the streets.
dude hates cloud
he loves Tifa and knows she loves Cloud and wants to see them together. It will also protect Marlene from falling in love with Cloud
Not really. At all
True. It'd have to start being kino in order to stop.
Is reeve living the dream?
I loved the Zero Escape series and thought their method of jumping between timelines was fun. Even ZTD was hella fun and shows that these stories can work. Its sequel series AI The Somnium Files did pretty much the same thing too.
>Her breasts are fake
What was the whole thing about Sephiroth saying Tifa wasn't real?
its literally just cloud being insane
It seems like he was just trying to trick Cloud or play mind games with him. There wasn't really anything else to it; unless they do some sort of big reveal in part 3.
he did the same thing in the OG
Gaslighting Cloud. Which is funny because Cloud was still glasslighting himself about his Zack memories a bit.
Is Tifa a competent fighter?
It's the best game in a very long time, gaming may be healing.
I skimmed some shit on youtube and spoiled some stuff, does this game really take place from disc 2 til the end? I saw a cloud sephiroth fight
>the greatest video game composer of all time
will he ever be surpassed? i dont think anytime soon
What's your favorite theme from him?
Mine would be the Prelude and ToL.
Can't choose just one when it comes to Nobuo. He genuinely created more than 10 dozen memorable songs. That's why he's the honest GOAT of gaming music.
As for some I can think off the top of my head..
1. Dancing Mad
2. Eternal Wind
3. Answers
4. Those who fight further
5. Red Wings
6. Rebel Army
7. Terra's Theme
8. To Zanarkand
9. A Place I'll Return to Someday
The list keeps going...
Like, there's just no way anyone else can make as many memorable songs as Nobuo has. There's a reason why he transcends gaming music and is considered one of the best composers of all time. He nails melody better than anyone else.
this game gave me motion sickness, its never happened in another game before
You can't get more soulless than that picture holy shit
I wish there was a way for your party to do poses in photomode
>elena's screan
I juggle her just to hear it on loop
>Their faith and trust in Cloud....GONE
Do people really not pick up on the double meaning when Barret says "it better be a load you'll be able to carry" (not WILLING to carry) and gives him a firm stare like he's making sure Clouds going to keep his sanity for Tifa's sake? It's so fricking obvious Cloud/Aerith stuff is Cloud losing his sanity.
>It's so fricking obvious Cloud/Aerith stuff is Cloud losing his sanity.
>Cloud being the only one who can see the tear in the sky is just him being a schizo bro
do you fricking hear yourself, anon?
Why wouldn't it be moron?
Tifa is dead and Cloud is a schizo over her. Until we see the scar, shes not real.
comparing this to the original when Aerith dies and the party grows even closer. Here they barely trust Cloud and are kind of scared of him.
Wow so squeenix can actually make good games? I hope cbu3 is paying attention
to be fair every major person that was involved with ff7 is back to make this
the only person missing is sakagooch but he's a washed up mobile slop peddler now so no big loss, he's been replaced by hamaGOOCH the new blood
>Wow so squeenix can actually make good games? I hope cbu3 is paying attention
That's what so incredibly frustrating. 16 sold better than Rebirth, even though Rebirth is infinitely better.
How much did Rebirth sell exactly? Also yea, 16 fricking failed. I told everyone that the Heavensward writer was a hack, and look what happened? He writes BORING shit just like Heavensward is, boring as frick.
>How much did Rebirth sell exactly?
We don't know but probably not a ton since they didn't announce anything like they have for previous titles.
They really need to stop doing Playstation only exclusives. The Playstation main install base only gives a frick about Call of Duty and NBA2K garbage shit games now. They don't fricking care about Final Fantasy.
We don't know. All we have is physical japanese numbers. (about 250k)
We don't have digital sales from Japanese, or any numbers outside of Japan.
What we do know is its the top seller on the playstation store digitally, so those numbers are going to be beefy.
And for international sales we can see online sites like Amazon showing it as the best selling game.
>about 250k
250k physical copies in Japan is actually really good though. Especially for a console where a good chunk don't even have the means to load physical media and are digital only.
Elden Ring only has 1,000,000 sales in Japan across all platforms in two years but 22,000,000 everywhere else. By Ganker doomposter and youtube outrage merchant standards (The standard being Japanese sales somehow mattering), Elden Ring was also a colossal flop.
Yeah, 16 was so bad compared to Rebirth. Felt more like a spin-off
Who gives a frick. Part 3 is happening no matter what.
I partially give a frick because I think FF should iterate on these systems going forward rather than re-inventing the wheel all over again past 7R3.
I'm still happy to get 7R3 and play that when it happens, but it would've been nice if Square could be "back".
You know I actually liked 16, but this game puts it to shame in every fricking way. Yoshitpiss in fricking shambles. Why did they use a director that literally hated ff games?
I didn't hate 16 or anything thought it was OK, but I just don't like how they made it more of an action game than an rpg. Mainline titles should always be more focused on rpg elements imo.
Did 16's director hate FF games? I'm not familiar with them. Yoshitpiss was only the producer on 16, I'm not familiar with the director's work
Takai didn't want chocobos, moogles, tonberries, cactuars, etc. Which is not a HUGE deal, but the real issue was he didn't want any fricking levity at all, just serious grim and depressing shit. Yoshitpiss actually had to force the chocobos and moogle in.
Yea but guess what... FF16's "dark storyline" wasn't even that fricking dark... It was a fricking cop-out especially with you-know-who surviving.
>accept the truth, he's dead and you were responsible
>lol nvm bro
It was very dark dude. Even if he lived.
No it wasn't. Why was it "dark" exactly? Because a few villains died? Some people died on screen? Yea that's cool and different for an FF game, but there's no psychological darkness to any of the characters, and neither is it explained well at all. Odin was just a crazy guy too, there's no backstory to him at all when you meet him.
They also kill off THE BEST character like 30% into the game... It fricking sucked man.
I skipped 16 because I didn't care much for the demo. What was wrong with it?
It's fun enough. The music is really good. The story is good. The combat is good. But there's nothing to do outside of fighting enemies. And the side quests, while they do share details about characters and the world VERY WELL, are fricking boring
The sidequests are even worse than FF14 sidequests... Which is astonishing how they managed to make them even more boring. But I told everyone that the Heavensward writer, writes boring shit... and looks like I was correct.
FFXIVgays have utterly abysmal standards though.
No they don't.
The Heavesnward writer was the writer of FF16, but he did not write the entirety for FF14.
Shadowbringers and Endwalker are written by an entirely different person, and the characters in those expansions actually have personality and there's levity, also the writing is good for a seriously toned story, unlike Heavensward-fart fest.
Shadowbringers was decently written and improved the worst part of the story, only for Endwalker to torpedo it with depression bird.
If you thought Endwalker was bad, you don't understand the ultimate plot point of FF14 and it went totally over your head. That's nobodies fault but your own.
>you don't understand the ultimate plot point of FF14 and it went totally over your head
holy fricking christ every single JRPG since the dawn of time had the exact same point, you don't need to shill the shit so heavily
Oh you're just stupid then, nice. I can just ignore you completely, thanks for letting me know.
>Genshit
as if your opinion wasn't worthless enough
If you like 14 your opinion is worth less than a genshitter.
>"You play X game, you're a worthless human being!"
Lol, confirmed for being mentally moronic. Pretty sure my jawline isn't caved in like your guys' is. Also I'm over 30 and not bald, feels great.
14 is trash, frog moron *nods*
Also you literally just dismissed them for playing genshin, hypocrite moron confirmed
>XIVtard
>Genshitter
>frogposter
trifecta of degeneracy. Go return yourself to the Planet, moron.
You're just fricking angry that anyone could possibly enjoy any game made past the year 1999... You fricking old bald frick. If anyone is returning to the planet soon, it's you.
I'm just not a nostalgia dick rider, I actually enjoy modern day games too. Will be playing Dragons Dogma 2 in a few days, and it'll be great, while you're still speed running Ocarina of Time and Jerking off to Princess Peach.
anon what the frick are you talking about
>over 30
>playing Genshit and FFXIV
>frogposting
Anon, I...
>holy fricking christ every single JRPG since the dawn of time had the exact same point, you don't need to shill the shit so heavily
Name what the one point of every single JRPG since the dawn of time has been and I'll name three that don't match your criteria.
Only good thing about Endwalker was Zodiark and Hydaleyn stuff. Other than that Shadowbringers steals the cake.
Well, what is this life-changing plot point so poignant that it can make me give a shit about the Scions, the half-assed apocalypse or the Ancients?
Not about to explain it to you, an obvious psychopath who think anything remotely emotional is for homosexuals or a weakness. I know better than to talk about such things on this website with furiously close minded people.
I understood the plot perfectly, it was just poorly told. You're not intelligent. There's no deep, secret meaning to FF14 that a middle schooler can't grasp.
Personally I think they're better than 14, the quests were fleshing out the world and my favorite part was hearing what the characters had to say. Actually doing the quests was miserable
As for 14, I skip all the cutscenes and dialog. Frick that shit. I'm not watching a character nod for the millionth time.
>The sidequests are even worse than FF14 sidequests...
Elaborate on how they are bad.
They are nothing like MMO fetch quests.
That is the most common complaint, about Remake.
They fixed that with having every quest tell you something about the world and the characters in it.
You are really reaching for something to shit on the game for.
>They are nothing like MMO fetch quests.
Uh you sure about that some of them are just straight up "go collect stuff" quests right out of XIV
Where?
i have done every quest bro. Every item you do pick up has a story as to why you are doing it. Stop lying.
It even links in to the protoreclic with Broden. The NPC who helps you, turns up in the Nibel area as part of the on going story line about degradation.
>WEELL U PICK UP ITEMS
So? You do that in Witcher 3 and every other acclaimed RPG ever made. Everyside quest has a story in rebirth.
We're talking about XVI bro the frick are you on about
>WTF REBITH IS LIKE 16
>What was wrong with it?
They promised a "dark" storyline, but they did a cop-out by making Clives main motivation return from the dead, and the final boss is an asspull character that nobody fricking cares about. Also there's no exploration and the entirety of every zone you go to is empty large corridors.
If you go off to explore some corner of the empty map, you might find 2 gil... and im not even fricking joking. TWO GIL as a reward...
16 had a decent enough base, but the gameplay and quest design just does not hold up well for the length of a modern FF game. They needed to cut down the length of the game, back to like FF4 levels of length.
There were also way too many main quests that should've been side quests, and vice-versa.
I played the demo, combat was annoying as frick coming off of ffviiRB. The only reason i'd buy it is for the eyecandy. The story seems like it's just japanese GoT's.
It's more than that. IMO wait for a sale, but it's always better to play the game yourself so you can give your own genuine opinion. Game is not horrible.
It's unironically on sale right now
>combat was annoying as frick coming off of ffviiRB
I wouldn't even dream of recommending someone to play 16 after 7 Rebirth. I enjoyed my time with 16, but it doesn't play well at all in comparison. Same with 15 compared to 7 Rebirth.
In an ideal world, Square moves foward in future FF games iterating on the 7R systems. But Square gonna Square.
Yeah, they should either stick to Rebirth's combat system or go back to turn based. Turn based games can still be popular and sell well.
It's great and fun and the music and characters are great and the titan fight and bahamut fights are the most next gen things I've seen and MOG by-God of War on the god of war sense of scale. But it's babbs first dmc and not an dog at all
I give it an 8.5/10 tbh I wish more people bought it so square didn't take the esg bux and stood by their "no blacks frick kotaku" montra for rebirth
Titan fight was OK but there was nothing cool about bahamut fight
>no blacks frick kotaku for rebirth
a remake of a game made in 1997 with a black man having a black man in it is now woke...ffs. i get it if youre talking about that shirtless old chocobo man who felt the need to tell tifa and aerith he was gay but, really?
Like 40% of the npcs are black
every group has to have a token black shoved in
it's esg pandering and you're a corpo shill for defending it, and I literally work at Goodyear in a manager position so I am LITERALLY A CORPO Shill who holds esg meetings and I am less of one than you
nta, and some of the woke stuff in games gets annoying to me and all
but this really feels like nothing at all and I don't get the going nuts over this here. it's literally just npcs with nothing being pushed, not like oppression being shoved in our face out of nowhere
>so square didn't take the esg bux and stood by their "no blacks frick kotaku" montra for rebirth
I'm not advocating for Black folk in games, but you realize Barret Wallace exists in FF7 right? Why the frick would he be the ONLY black guy in FF7? Are you stupid or something?
Can't stop what never starts
What do you think will happen to Tifagays when Aerith appears in the Highwind and Lifestream scenes?
Mass Tifagay and Clotigay suicide
They will move the goal posts and claim Tifa's version of those scenes are canon
Aerith is almost guaranteed to show up in the lifestream segment. They've tied her death and burial scene to Cloud's mental state so that it's something he has to deal with just like with the truth of the nibelheim incident. And it's something only Aerith herself can really help with, Tifa can't do it.
The devs said pretty plainly they wanted to keep Aerith and Tifa scenes equal, which is why they added a bunch of new Tifa scenes in Remake and Rebirth where Aerith was the main focus in the OG, and now that we're getting to the point where Tifa is the focus we're going to see the other side of that and get new Aerith scenes.
>The weeks before part three releases
>The inevitable Aerith lives confirmation
Part 3 epilogue.
Cloud deserves a real woman like aerith not some motherly bimbo
He deserves a girl that will call him a sillygoose.
that turned me on
shilly shally dilly dally
Keeeek
Aerith probably pissed all over Tifa's tower spot to mark her territory after that scene.
Finally beat the game, I'm glad I didn't log in to this shithole for the last two weeks because this might be the best gaming experience I've had since Devil May Cry 5. Now to grind out some shit before I decide to give up because that Johnny trophy seems like some total goddamn bullshit.
I just beat it a couple hours ago too. Glad I took a week of PTO for this. Game was so fun, but I hope they tone it down with the mini-games for the next one.
>I want less game in my game
Why does Ganker come out with such moronic takes?
Are you being moronic intentionally?
Are you?
>I WANT LESS MINI GAMEES NEXT TIME
FRICK YOU gay
i want more now just to spite you.
You seem like the type to have easily influenced opinions.
>Has to point out irreverent shit to shift focus away from his moronic take about the next game having less game in it.
moron
But I love the minigames, they should even expand Fort Condor in part 3
I didn't like Queen's Blood at first, but it really grew on me when you unlock more cards. I still like Fort Condor better though. Was disappointed when it was only brought back for that protorelic quest only. Hope they bring it back in full for part 3
Mean to post this picture.
>over 1000 screenshots to sort through
Fuggggggggg
Aerith is really perfect for Cloud. That mopey moron has no defense against her bants
>literally named for each other
>literally made to perfectly complement each other
>literally have 2 theme songs where they sing to each other
Give the mega anon.
yeah I'm a hopechad
Has it stopped flopping?
Wait 3 months when it come to Steam.
Lol
Lmao even
Where's your ffxvi port? It's been a year...
https://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-16-is-officially-coming-to-pc/
Follow the reply chain moron
no
Lets wait until the western sales have been published.
>Has it stopped flopping?
We have no idea if it's flopping. Japanese physical sales are down, but that's mostly due to Japan not really liking the PS5 (nogaems, Sony JP studio shutdown, lack of portability, no point in an expensive/large home console you can't play since you're at your salaryman job till 11pm).
Also, no digital sales or western sales published yet. Though SE did say the games sales were lagging bit.
What is Rufus's endgame? His plans are too high iq for me
The ending is obviously going to be happy this time and Aerith will survive. With Aerith surviving, Rufus will find the promised land and use Shinra to help revive the planet.
>that quest where you're taking pics of shooting stars and sneak some candid shots of aerith
My fricking heart
Cuties
cbu1 sweating because after part 3 they will have to make an original game. Too bad they won't be making 17.
If they just go and make FF6 remake with the same quality as FF7R i'll be a happy man... I'll be old as frick by the time it comes out, but i'll be happy....
Don't think any other game will get a remake tbh. No other ff game has the pull of 7.
Apparently FF7 doesn't have that much of a pull anymore, because Rebirth isn't selling very well. And japs don't give a FRICK about console games outside of Nintendo anymore.
Western audiences want gay bear sex now too, they hate anime shit.
>finish the game
I have never been more sick of characters than I am of both Aerith and Sephiroth.
Fun game though.
aerith's husbands
Can't wait for Angeal to join them in the final omnislash
no
This was so cool. I like the other pose of them together too, where Zack is holding the sword in a similar pose to Sephiroth
Seph had to split them up, because he knew the Soldier-Two-Step was way too based.
Now that Aerith has officially picked Cloud (confirmed by Marlene) who is left for my boy Zack? Cissnei?
>who is left for my boy Zack? Cissnei?
This is pretty friggin obvious since she's already the daughter in law of his parents
Cissnei. Shes going to play a critical part in game 3 since she can see the whispers. Shes the only character that can outside of the playable ones.
I thought Rufus could see them too?
He can but they didn't explain why
So besides Rufus the only kther charavter that randomly can is Cissnei? Shes going to play a big role in the third game when they decide to explain why she has this power
I am so fricking hyped to see her interactions with Zack it's unreal. I'm really liking her character and her wit so far.
This is NaruSaku and IchiRuki all over again. This smugness from Cloerithgays is going to backfire hard.
HoAD incoming.
this. Jap rules state the pick me b***h ALWAYS wins the MCbowl.
The problem is some of them might actually rope instead of it just being a meme.
any straight-forward viewing of the game and the story would tell you that Cloud is in love with Tifa. Are Gankerers intentionally trolling and being obtuse or can they really no understand a simple story?
I'm convinced they can't. They either overcomplicate it and imagine bullshit that doesn't exist like peek LOST theorizing. Or just stay silent. I can't tell if the fanbase is moronic or i'm just as schizo as Cloud is at this point.
people are being dishonest. theres clear cloti scenes and clear clerith scenes in the game but because it is the game with Aerith dies they have to buildup to it with a loss on clouds end when she dies
I used to think Clerithgays were mostly a twitter and tumblr thing after all the old forums fell off but apparently not?
God I love shipping
FF7 remake in the style of the 1997 3D renders never ever
square would do something in the same veins as this?
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Should I play crisis core?
So he's going to be aware that there are different worlds going into part 3 I guess
>Aerith's tragic death
>Cloud's /x/gayging
How does Barret put up with this?
Cloud isn't a true /x/gay until he's performing magic rituals to try and summon a succubus Aerith from the lifestream
sunglasses
>Tifagays are adamant he's just being a schizo
why are they so defensive
Because they played the original game where Cloud, at this point in the story, was being a fricking schizo.
I forgot the part in the OG where there were two realities which Tifa both died and survived and then the game makes us question if she has a scar or not.
Yes we like it a lot!
It's super good to have a Ps5, and not watch spoilers for a year
We like exclusive!
why does Tifa not remember Cloud saving her here?
Because that's actually Viceroy Sarruf who saves her.
Because you can see in that scene, and literally in that screenshot, her eyes are closed the entire time as she's about to fade into unconsciousness.
Get your sternum caved in by a super human alien hybrid monster's 7 foot long katana and take a tumble down a bunch of metal stairs. See how well you hold up.
It never starts either.
Tiferoth
I genuinely can't wait for it to get on steam and play.
>barret
>black
Ganker I'd like you guys to meet my beautiful wife Aerith
she's dead anon, you have to let it go
are there any edits of pic related with Cloud yet
>Thousand Masamune stare
Have your fun anon.....while you still can
Gilgamesh and Sephiroth meeting never would've been on my bingo card for the 7 Remake games.
Rebirth made me want to replay the og. How easy is it to set up new threat?
What's Sephiroth trying to do again? Merge multiple worlds and then what?
And then he separated them again and left
Merging all timeline sephiroths to become gigaroth
would that include timelines where Sephiroth didn't go crazy and stayed a good boy?
He always goes gamer mode. Timeliness split when the party destroyed the whispers in part 1. (I think)
They're gonna have the good version of Sephiroth join your party in part 3 along with Zack
This is the Assess for Bizzaro Sephiroth btw... Literally shows his motive and how he's the ressurected OG Sephy who's come back and trying to frick with fate.
>how he's the ressurected OG Sephy
How? He 'died' at Nibelheim.
But didn't he just merge with the lifestream and come back as Jenova's puppet? That's who Sephiroth always was, wasn't he? He's also the purest Jenova specimen in the first place, is he not? I forget OG's exact story but I'm pretty sure I'm correct.
Jenova is Sephiroth's puppet
That's how intelligent people understand the story but compilation bullshit for moronic teenagers decided Sephiroth is the coolest and most strongest and was actually controlling Jenova all along and he didn't get mindfricked into freeing her the moment he got inside her psychic range actually Genesis just made him mad.
The same bullshit is happening with this timeline nonsense.
Sephiroth literally uses Jenova's body parts as disposable bodies
You mean Jenova shapeshifts into Sephiroth because she's a shapeshifter. Looking only at the original game, Sephiroth is assimilated into Jenova. The reason you see "Sephiroth" is because that's the way she baits Cloud to the Reunion. Maybe you didn't notice the boss names
>Jenova Birth
>Jenova Life
>Jenova Death
>Sephiroth Rebirth (Reberso, Bizarro)
She just assimilated Sephiroth and was molting into a new form with him as her new brain.
Sephirot is the vessel for God's (Jehova's) will, gamers are just secular morons and miss the religous parallels.
Jenova's body is literally used as a vessel for Sephiroth's will in the game
Jenova's will is Sephiroth's will and vice versa, there isn't one using the other. Can your American brain understand dialectics?
This moron never wondered why when Sephiroth gets to Nibelheim he instantly starts losing his fricking mind and decides he randomly wants to set her free and eat the planet with her.
Oh okay so he has no plan he's just in it to frick with Cloud
He wants to absorb the planet's energy. More timelines = more planet energy to absorb.
>create eternity
what did Sephiroth mean by this
Multiverse is the laziest writing ever.
Just a friendly reminder that the multiverse trope is not new to the franchise... since 1987 btw.
That's a timeloop.
WRONG.
They create a multiverse and have to correct it WITH a timeloop.
You lost.
Multiverse is canon in Final Fantasy.
Stay angry.
They makes absolutely no sense.
Are you stupid? In one timeline, Chaos wins. In another timeline, Chaos loses. It's literally MULTIPLE TIMELINES
How stupid are you?
It's one timeline they just change the past, there is never multiple worlds existing concurrently.
Any time travel creates multiple timelines and multiple possibilities tho. The fact that time travel has been a thing in FF since the start, proves that stuff deal with time itself is NOT new to the franchise.
For frick sakes, I saw people complain about Gilgamesh being in FF7 Rebirth. FF7 OG fans are fricking insane and still don't think this game is a Final Fantasy game.
>Any time travel creates multiple timelines and multiple possibilities tho.
Source?
>he fact that time travel has been a thing in FF since the start, proves that stuff deal with time itself is NOT new to the franchise.
Time travel is not alternate versions of the same universe. Final Fantasy VIII has time travel too and that is just a time loop too.
>For frick sakes, I saw people complain about Gilgamesh being in FF7 Rebirth. FF7 OG fans are fricking insane and still don't think this game is a Final Fantasy game.
Just because Gilgamesh is a FF staple doesn't mean people have to like his inclusion, you can just disagree with them instead of overanalysing a simple complaint.
>Source?
Beating Chaos and changing the timeline proves that there are multiple outcomes.
Just because you ARE the protagonist and can't really lose due to plot armor, doesn't mean that Chaos didn't win in one reality.
Also this anon proved that FF7R's Gaia is not really a Multiverse
Sephiroth literally says that these "new realities" when breaching fate, collapse back in on themselves. "Even the most resilient of worlds, fades away".
Why are people butthurt when Gaia can literally shit out Time Materia magic in little orbs too? The entire planet they're on is magical in nature, it only stands to reason that funky shit would happen when you're that deep in the Lifestream.
None of what Rebirth is doing to the story is that out of place. Plus we don't even know anything till part 3 explains Sephiroths ultimate goals and what he's really trying to accomplish here.
The problem with the whole alternate timeline shit isn't that it isn't consistent with VII's lore, it's that it's confusing and cheapens the ending of the game.
In the original, Aerith's death is sudden and poignant. In Rebirth it's convoluted and drawn out. Sephiroth being a timelord doesn't make him more interesting as a character. He's still just an evil edgelord with very basic motivations.
Nomura is just being Nomura again, writing a bunch of needlessly complicated bullshit that won't pay off.
>Nomura is just being Nomura again, writing a bunch of needlessly complicated bullshit that won't pay off.
I doubt it was Nomura, Nojima is the one doing the writing.
It's time travel, not multiverse.
And FF1 did it right plain and simple.
Took a back seat to the gameplay bro
To use meteor on the combined timeline, duh
Where did he learn to do that
standard shinra training
Mandatory DEI training
He's literally just like me
I was gonna comment "Didn't read" but then I noticed the file name. Good job, anon
Can someone make a webm of when, during the Skywheel date, when aerith accidentally falls into clouds arms, they move away, sit down slowly, then look the opposite direction at the same time?
Shit was adorable lol.
My fav part is when she motions for cloud to sit next to her and he promptly sits across from her. Clerithgays on suicide watch. I mean, she has to practically force herself on him, he just doesnt want to be rude.
He's just an awkward dipshit, tifakeks have been left in the dust lmao.
>just an awkward dip shit
>literally pulls tifa in for a hug then kisses her
sounds like he knows what he wants. stop victim shaming, men are allowed to say no too and if they aren't giving you an in don't force yourself on them. That's non-consensual. Aerith is a rapist.
Tifa doesn't even know cloud is pretending to be someone else, while aerith can see it plain and simple, and wants to find the real him.
That's intrusive and every vibe Cloud gives off is for her to stop. If roles were reversed she'd be viewed as a creep.
Neither Tifa nor Aerith know Cloud is pretending to be a completely different person. But they're both well aware of the fact that he's not being himself.
He looks so happy with Tifa, totally not a rebound
The face of a man forced to kiss a disgusting weepy bimbo
>Forced
Black person he pulls her into it what are you talking about?
Tifakeks getting mad now, all they have is a non canon cutscene lol
rebound from what? Aerith isnt even dead at this point in the story.
Poor guy had to settle for less because the bawd Tifa made him think Aerith is still not over her dead bf
God Tifa is such a manipulative b***h
He sat next to her after he woke her up. The whole ending he was smiling and getting closer to her
He didnt wake her up, she's a hallucination you fricking moron
Sure thing, cherry pick the rainbow scenes and pretend they don't mean anything.
Good you're stupid
Jenova is pitting Wutai and Shinra against each other like she did with the humans and Cetra
WE
DONT
NEED
MULTIVERSE
IN FF7
You don't have a multiverse.
You have a series of timelines that split off from the lifestream itself.
The timelines are not infinite, as the lifestream can only sustain so many before the lifestream reclaims what little Mako it needed to form that timeline in the first place.
This is why when we get to the Biggs and Zack scene, the planet has no mako left and it's doomed, despite the exact same point in time in the main timeline still having plenty of lifestream left. This is also why Sephiroth and Aerith can travel between them. Because they're all linked by one lifestream.
>Alternate timeline blinks into existence.
>Timeline gets a little lifestream.
>Lifestream reclaims itself and closes off the timeline.
>The timeline fractures and dies, presumably blinking out of existence.
It's not a multiverse. A multiverse implies that there's a bunch of layered near identical universes with their own Gaia and each Gaia has it's own seperate lifestream.
I fricking hate myself for spending 100 hours on this garbage. I wanted to like it as much as the original but it's just nonstop MCU banter and bullshit cameo fanservice in between clunky half-assed button-mashy wannabe action RPG combat. 4/10, hope the series tanks (though I don't have to hope hard, way sales are looking).
>play 100hrs on something
>don't have fun
I pray to God you use your time like this in ocd hyper focus autism ways in things the ti prove your life and not just wasting it doing things you don't enjoy so you can cry on anonymous forums
Do you have a masters degree?
No, I own a home though which in America is apparently an achievement now in this rotting hellscape.
>cut down on the mini games
>cut down on the chadley marker shit
>let me switch cloud out of the party
>replace the shitty main menu
>remove the sephiroth/zack alternate timeline story entirely and find other ways to make them more prominent characters
It's so frustrating how close this game gets to being 10/10 at times, but there's just all this annoying bullshit getting in the way of fun. I honestly hope this game sells less than FFXVI and Remake to send Square a message that the game's a bloated, overdesigned mess and no one cares about compilation wankery aside from Nomura and the most diehard fujos FF7 fans.
Not enough of actual best girl
Aya Brea is pretty great.
God she was hot. There are almost no ugly women in this game.
almost
Her daughter was pretty cute though
Game is great. Haters in shambles.
The only people in shambles are S-E over its poor sales
Is there a PC release for this yet I'm not poor, gay, or black so I don't own consoles
Time value of money to wait a year and a half for a vista game = kek, you're a moron or poor
This scene explain the SOLDIER well, he's moving fast enough to side step bullets from them. It also make Barret fear of Cloud snapping really have a meaning, normal people can't stop a SOLDIER tier guy ,and even the pos-Hojo Cloud is closer to what they did to Sephiroth than the normal ones.
The other scene where Cloud kill the 2nd class SOLDIER with Barret and Tifa looking powerless tell us that early part 3 will be rough for them.
Test
Why can't this stupid prostitute just say shit outright
>cissnei only met cloud when he was comatose
>she tells him he has to remember when they met on his own
what
They want you to play Crisis Core
maybe he doesn't remember because he was knocked the frick out with Mako poisoning at the time
What- the ESLs that title youtube videos?
>Wall market bums called her "homely"
>Looks like a supermodel
It's good that only I know how worthy she is.
Comfiest track in the game, coming through
for me its southern corel and its battle theme
so where did the gi COME FROM
Spira
They're aliens from another planet apparently. Not sure how they space travelled
Same way all aliens in Square games space-travel. They arrive on an asteroid or like one (see Jenova, Spirits Within, Lavos, etc)
How did they get on the asteroid?
Used the app to schedule.
Same deal as Jenova really, just need to know they're aliens from somewhere else than this planet.
I heard there is a sex in this game. Is that bullshit?
Teen-rated game.
Likely will just be a fade-to-black in Part 3 like the OG did and implications.
I used to like Tifa, but Ganker redpilled me
This thread is fricking gay.
I'm gonna go jerk off to Aerith and Tifa getting gangbanged by monsters and random guys together. You people keep b***hing about Cloud being a schizo and which girl is going to lose in the end by ending up with Cloud or whatever.
anon...shoulda gone with Scarlet. Tifa is best girl and Aerith gives good head but Scarlet has the best porn by a mile.
I'm drawing Tifa and Aerith jobbing to Elena and Scarlet in tag team wrestling
Hey wait what that's fricking cool.
Do more.
Yo guys, real talk, can this be the thread now?
Like can we just talk about what this guy is doing instead?
Fricking glad I refreshed the thread one final time. Pulled me right back in you son of a b***h.
Did you actually draw that?
That's not half bad anon
>alright son, here’s a story called the Odyssey. It’s about one of the greatest people who ever lived, Odysseus
>MOM WHERE DID PEOPLE COME FROM
>they came from Prometheus son, who built us out of clay
>BUT MOM WHERE DID PROMETHEUS COME FROM
>he was a titan, the son of Iapetus who lived in Tartarus
>BUT MOM WHERE DID IAPETUS COME FROM
>he was the son of Uranus, who ruled the sky
>BUT MOM WHERE DID URANUS COME FROM
>he was the son (and wife) of Gaea, who ruled the earth
>BUT WAIT MOM WAIT WHERE DID GAEA COME FROM
>she was formed from Chaos, the void state before creation
>MOM WHERE THE FRICK DID THE VOID COME FROM
>it was just there
>WHAT THE FRICK MOM THIS LITERALLY EXPLAINS NOTHING, SUCH BULLSHIT THAT WE WILL NEVER KNOW THE TRUE MYSTERY BEHIND THE STORY OF THE ODYSSEY
now make this but with ff8 please thank you
Let's not get any more remakes until Kitase and Nojima retire please
fair enough
why does dyne have fricking tentacles
Cloud deserves aerith, he needs someone a little silly, not Tifa who is boring as frick
t.
anyone have that gif/webm of Yuffie doing the arm wiggle?
She's so cute. Priscilla was very cute too
thanks anon
I absolutely love her flapper girl kimono
What was the point in bringing Biggs back?
They needed a character to be a foil for Zack I guess
to show that it's not just about Zack.
To catch Zack up on what’s going on
>Tifacels trying to paint Aerith as some manic bipolar b***h when she canonically sacrificed her own life to save the world even if it's horrifically unfair to her
She left the man she loves behind to go and do her duty and got killed in the process.
>her duty being to save everyone, including the man she loves, from Meteor
Stop pretending Tifa wouldn't do the same. You keep downplaying Tifa because you cant selfinsert as the big boobs stacy
She wouldnt
>Stop pretending Tifa wouldn't do the same.
Man. Wish I had a woman who'd take care of me when I'm a wheelchair bound vegetable.
She literally wouldn't. That was exactly what happened after Cloud lost it.
False.
In the original timeline, Aerith never intended to die. She specifically went there to pray for holy and fully intended to come back. She said as much.
Her knowing she's supposed to die is a Remake thing. OG never saw it coming.
I forgot burgers can't hold two conflicting ideas in their head at the same time (cloud loves both of them, and these relationships are necessary for his growth. Disc 3 and beyond he's with Tifa, remains to be seen whether this will be the case in the nuContinuity.)
>he didn't get the Tifa date at Gold Saucer
Oh no no no...
Yes I did I went out of my way to only do her chapter 12 sidequests and save the rest for the beginning of chapter 13!
I AM CAPTIVATED BY YUFFIE'S BODACIOUS BEACH BOD
why are pits so erotic
>When you realize they chose the perfect Voice Actress for Yuffie...
suzie yeung is great
>tfw she also voices the asian girl party member from infinite wealth, but the whole dub is fricked thanks to yongyea (and it's a yakuza game in the first place anyway)
it's sucks
>haha so lets make riku but chinese
i know this is obvious bat but
she's far less derpy than rikku
I MEAN RIKKU IS FAR LESS DERPY THAN HER
GODDAMIT
juuuuust about saved it anon
>Riku
Yuffie came first anyway.
I wasnt really hype for rebirth after remake, but now I really fricking want part 3. This game was amazing
same
I need to play vincent and see how this tulpa aerith shit plays out NOW
is Tifa actively trying to get with Cloud during the game?
She is but their interactions just made me think they have pretty much nothing in common other than growing up in the same place and most of their conversations are just Tifa talking about shit Cloud doesn't care about and him either being bored or going insane.
>most of their conversations are just Tifa talking about shit Cloud doesn't care about and him either being bored or going insane.
She's bringing up inane, boring shit from the past to see if Cloud actually remembers any of it.
why would she try to get into a relationship with Cloud if she isnt even sure he is the real Cloud?
Anon she knows he's the real Cloud.
But he also knows shit he shouldn't. So she's trying to determine why.
It's not hard from all the random migraines that something is wrong with his head.
Some of you guys have to be genuinely autistic to not understand the nuance of Tifa's actions and behavior
I honestly don't get why people here praise it so much. The open world and the activities in it fricking blows and chadley is annoying.
Because past the initial grasslands area and after getting more materia/folios, it really starts opening up
I'm not going to lie I greatly enjoy every scene where MAI sucks Cloud's dick and then Chadley gets super jealous and annoyed she beat him to it.
kek yeah those scenes were pretty funny. I liked the little world building bits that the unique fiends got
Why doesn't Yuffie get a wanted poster even though she literally tried to kill the president
The never actually saw her face or caught her.
All they know is that the assassins was female and likely from Wutai given the weapon used.
I really wish they made a few variations of the robed guys if they were going to make them such a big focus. Having them be completely identical is just silly. At least change the robes a bit.
I think towards the end some of them had tattoos and others didn't? But yeah I agree should've made more models for them
Cloud and Aerith would be great parents
No. Aerith would be a good parent. Tifa would also be a good parent.
Cloud would be a fricking terrible parent.
Cloud would be a good patent with Aerith since she can fix him, but would be a terrible patent with Tifa (would leave her to search for flower fields)
Sorry. The same Nojima who said Tifa and Cloud have problems also said he'd probably have issues with Aerith if she was alive and in a relationship with him too.
Maybe don't expect sweet and wholesome romance from a bitter, 60 year old man who has no children and has never been married and refuses to share his views on the subject of marriage and families because he knows they'd be unpopular.
Can someone explain to me why they let Nomura write romance, exactly? Everything he writes is star crossed lovers this, one lover dies at the end that, troubled relationships out the ass.
The one relationship that *Kind* of ended happily was Squall and Rinoa, and that was only because he harvested the romantic misery from their parents.
>unmarried
He's an oral-only homosexual with a foot fetish, anon.
Tifa and Cloud literally have a happy ending when he lets go of his self loathing in AC
Reality you're not welcome here!
No. No I'm pretty sure they don't get a happy ending.
They get an at best ambiguous ending.
There isn't even any mention of it in Dirge of Cerberus outside of Cid saying "Tifa wears the pants in that relationship".
That one line is all you have to go off of.
>ignores clouds entire character arc because he doesn't explicitly say "I am happy."
Don't mistake me, I'd love for them to have a big old happy ending.
But Nojima's comments on the matter don't exactly breed confidance.
Why does he hate happy romantic relationships in his writings so much anyways?
That was literally my question.
It think it's because he's never experienced one and is bitter.
Hell, the man is responsible for Bahamut Lagoon. That should tell you all you need to know.
is Nojima an incel?
moron
You are transgender.
Nomura when asked if Cloud and Tifa are together after AC replied with "I honestly have no idea". This shit is ambigous at best and up to individual interpretation
To be fair, he doesn’t want to get killed by some obsessed schizo for saying the wrong thing
Why is Chadley so gay for Cloud? It’s really fricking weird and awkward
Dude saved him from being Hojo's slave and does all the stupid shit he asks him to, why wouldn't he love him?
Who keeps saving Zack? Is it his world's Aerith? Like during the Sephiroth boss fight he gets that little flower field shield
It’s the OG 1997 Aerith (AERIS)
>liking Nomura shit
Stellagay? Is that you
Modded models have no soul
Wonder how they're gonna force Aerith into this
Headcanon is fine but when you started pretending it's real when the devs have explicitly said otherwise you just look dumb.
Yeah because it never began