It's DOA because they're still too fricking stubborn to add npc dating. Even WoW is adding it next expansion. YoshiP is so fricking dumb. NOOOO YOU CAN'T ROMANCE Y'SHTOLA IT LIMITS THE STORY WHAT IF I WANT TO ADD MORE KEKBAIT LIKE RUNAR??? moron deserved the XVI flop debacle. Dumb jap.
The real problem is idiots like this who stifle what they can do with the story. Because in their mind, yshtola is their "waifu", there is limit to the sort of charcters you can write. Ever notice how almost every single character is single in this game? Even characters like Rauhbaun or Gaius who are middle-aged, successful, and have *adopted children*? Its because schizos get insanely jealous if you write any characters with spouses or lovers. Fourchaninode and the Chais are the only fricking married people in the entire game.
Forchenault and Amelliance
The Chais
Gorge and Dorgono
Aldis and Mylla
Alka Zolka and Setoto
Tankin and Hinageshi
Etc.
And if you want to go into onesided crushes instead of reciprocated ones, the list becomes way longer.
>Even characters like Rauhbaun or Gaius who are middle-aged, successful, and have *adopted children*?
Have you considered that the reason they're not married is because they're both military men who are often out on campaign and are both tormented by their pasts rather than because these two characters who were in the game from even 1.0 were somehow made single because "Wait, people want to frick them"?
God it pisses me off when shallow fricks like you complain about "limiting the writing" and then you reveal that what you really want is to just cater to the shipping community no matter how little it might actually bring to the character or how ill-fitting it might be.
>cater to the shipping community
no you dumbfrick giving canon spouses ends all possiblity of shipping. >because they're both military men who are often out on campaign
yeah and thats why having a wife would be even more important. What the hell is going on at Balthasar household with 10 kids running around while he is off crushing a rebellion in Eorzea?
Rauhbaun is easier to understand; the originally wrote him as carrying a torch for Nanamo. But having this giant dusky mhigger sniffing strawberry shortcakes undies made people uncomfortable, so deported his ass to ala mhigo (which politically, would have been one of the dumbest moves Nanamo could have ever done. Even for a character as moronic as Nanamo, exiling her single reliable court ally is a colossal blunder).
You want the devs to start ignoring the players to ship off characters they like. You're not even addressing that the game does have plenty of couples and love stories, it just happens to be ones you don't care for or don't like. That's shipping, you want certain characters to get paired off and are complaining that they aren't. You want to get catered to. >What the hell is going on at Balthasar household with 10 kids running around while he is off crushing a rebellion in Eorzea?
He's a noble, he has servants and probably other members of his family branch. The fact he ended up being absent from their lifes for a long period of time even ended up being a vital part of forming their story in Werlyt. What does giving Gaius a wife contribute to?
I don't even like the plot point of Nanamo sending Raubahn off and always thought that was a dumb decision on her part, but I'm not delusional enough it happened because "OMG dem evil players caused this to happen because they lust after Nanamo." It happened because whoever was in charge of writing the Ala Mhigo part of the game decided Raubahn should go back to conclude his character arc.
You forget the most kino pairing, Sidurgu and Rielle
Still within onesided crush until Sidurgu pronounces how he feels about it.
>He's a noble, he has servants and probably other members of his family branch. The fact he ended up being absent from their lifes for a long period of time even ended up being a vital part of forming their story in Werlyt. What does giving Gaius a wife contribute to?
you should read some novels from the 17-19th centuries. You cannot just "leave your household in care of your servants" and assume things aren't going get really fricking weird. You need a wife aligned with your interests on site to oversee your affairs. Servants are great, but they do not actually have aligned interests with you.
>it just happens to be ones you don't care for or don't like
But I do like them anon. Whats bizarre is the characters who have no real reason to be single, to be single. And being single is overwhelmingly the norm in Etheirys, so yshtola gooners don't get jealous of some fricking catman.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you should read some novels from the 17-19th centuries. You cannot just "leave your household in care of your servants" and assume things aren't going get really fricking weird.
So exactly how they got? Really fricking wierd? Or did you think it was perfectly normal to have Lyvia lusting for her adopted dad, and all the others joining a suicide program where they pushed their father's ideals to the extreme?
>so yshtola gooners don't get jealous of some fricking catman.
Have you considered that the reason Y'shtola didn't hook up with Runar isn't because of much evil players who get jealous (and who if they were genuinely catering to they wouldn't have had Runar at all to begin with), but rather because Runar is a big loser hermit whose only noteworthy skill is making stew, who shows no interest at all in her life beyond just staying at his home and protecting them and doesn't even try to get to know her friends in turn, who will die in a blink while she's in any of the other shards, and that the only lifestyle he can offer her is to renounce to her dreams and goals in life as well as to the Scions, Matoya, Y'mhitra and her home world to instead pray to a "god" she's on a friendly basis with in some forest because otherwise the catman will cry?
This is what I fricking mean by shippers not caring about whether their ship actually brings something to the character or even makes sense. There's a fricking reason the only people who ever bring up Runar are those who hate Y'shtola and want her to disappear from the game. Because that's literally the only thing you're offering, not fleshing her out or removing the limits of the writing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>all this "anti-shippers" nonsense is just squid ink for a y'shtola gooner
figures. PS still haven't read your magnum opus.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I only mentioned Y'shtola because that anon brought her up as premier example of "X ship didn't happen because the players bully the writers" and I had been talking about Gaius and Raubahn that entire time before, schizo-kun.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Every fricking lore argument in these threads has just become "Am I losing this discussion? Just cram an unprompted sideways insult towards either Venat or Y'shtola in there and the instant the other guy addresses it I can accuse him of just being a waifugay and ignore everything else"
>can't romance characters as it limits story >for like 10 years now the story hasn't done jackshit in terms of characters having relations with each other beyond them all being pals, or having any emotional moments/developments
lol, lmao even. I like xiv but the characters have been totally frozen forever now. No, giving them a different jacket every few years doesn't count.
Because there won't be enough Y'shtola. And yes I know she was shown there but since Alphinaud and Alisaie are gonna be there she won't get much to do.
Well first of all we'd have to make it work to begin with. This would likely mean either only being able to date inconsequential NPCs or allowing you to date notable characters but not acknowledging it in any story content.
And second it'd be a slippery slope. Imagine the content exists but it only allows you to date either G'raha or Alisaie? All the people who want to frick Y'shtola or Estinien would be upset. As another anon mentioned there's a reason why so many characters are single in this game.
Not sure. I've heard enough horror stories about mythic plus that I'm not sure I want something like that.
I would want something that's more 'midcore' like people on here describe -pegged between normal and savage, and NOT just boss fights. Variant dungeons are neat but suffer the same issues as regular dungeons where none of the mobs really pose a challenge. Criterion is just several savage raid bosses stapled together with a corridor between them, the mobs are barely an issue.
"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
>"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
Diadem 1.0
The worst part is they keep adding more and more of it for NPCs with NPCs while WoL stays a fricking pathetic virgin. Then YoshiP copes with >b... but that's what player eb is for!
Troon shit. Disregarded. I mean for frick's sake that brainlet Curious Gorge gets laid before WoL does. The class moron losing virginity before the supposed chad godslaying jock? LOL
No, he just needed adventure that didn't involve war or death and destruction of literal entire cultures.
>ARR was nothing but Primal shit stomping and Garlean war after your 'Venturin days ended >HW was technically war >SB was all war (and Tataru was the only one who got to enjoy Kugane) >ShB adventure in the brightest most depressing place ever crafted and other world destruction prevention >EW literally save everyone and everything from gloom in it's gloomiest form
WoL wants his "childhood" back, he got to 'venture, dig up treasure, get into fights where even if he lost the consequences aren't "EVERYBODY IS FOOKIN' DEAD, YOU DONE FRICKED US ALL YOU NONCE!". He wants adventure and foightin' 'round the world where the stakes aren't horrible on failure.
WoL is Zenos mixed with Venat. Came for the adventure, stayed for the foightin', and if it helps mother frickers with problems then all the better.A real WoL wouldn't have entertained Zenos, homieh outright says you can refuse the fight and he'll deal with it.
>Twins get to be involved in every single plotline ever since they got introduced. >Just got out of an expansion where every major point was resolved by them or suddenly started being about them despite barely being involved. >In ShB Alisaie straight up complains that the plot wasn't about them even though they both got EXTENSIVE plotlines with Eulmore and the sin eaterification/tempering stuff that actually exceeded most of the others in length. >Now we've got yet another expansion incoming that straight up opens up with "WoL, Alphinaud and Alisaie go to..." >Even in this patch filler arc where they were supposed to be working on something else Alisaie still gets to deliver the biggest speech that changes Zero's outlook the most.
>Meanwhile, any time any other Scion ever gets attention for one zone or patch they immediately get fricking kneecapped and forced to stay quiet for a whole year after. >Y'shtola and Estinien got like one patch of focus where they started a storyline and then immediately got sidelined for 3 in a row, and considering we seem to be visiting the First with just Zero it's fricking obvious they're going for 4.
>Estinien had a WHOLE expansion, bro.
Wow, Estinien had a WHOLE expansion almost a decade ago. And Y'shtola got to be in about a third or fourth of it. And ever since every part of content they get to be a part of has to be dropped one minute at a time and with time to rest between each in case they interfere too much with the twins deciding everything all the time.
>>In ShB Alisaie straight up complains that the plot wasn't about them even though they both got EXTENSIVE plotlines with Eulmore and the sin eaterification/tempering stuff that actually exceeded most of the others in length.
That was just a 4th wall break joke complaining that Y'shtola/Urianger/Thancred got new outfits and jobs for ShB but she and Alphi didn't
I basically quit the game because Alisae was just too fricking annoying. I really wished that she'd stay down for longer when she pounded into submission in SB.
Sorry to say anon, but Alisaie is annoying because she's in love with the Wol and is trying very hard to measure up/ impress him ( Wol is a male I don't give a frick what people want to chose he'll always be a man) and then later in Endwalker she wants to do more so the Wol isn't so relied upon to always save the realm.
because everything after 6.0 was filler and they are following that with an entire ''beach episode'' filler expansion
it won't matter tho since the people still playing this shit will eat it up regardless
I just want a mythic plus equivalent that gives better and better gear the harder you go.
Plus, if the rumors are true they'll add exploratory content again, at this point I'd say it's a 50/50 chance of the expansion being good. The only bad thing is that it launches next year.
That would require a massive change in how they do Item Levels, which right now are just in increments of 10 and sometimes 5. They would have to allow greater variance in Ilevel like in early ARR which I don't see happening.
Plus, the reason WoW can do Mythic+ is because all dungeon gear in an expansion is literally the sam but recolored and given a different name to pretend it's different, while in FFXIV all dungeons have different looking gear.
You really have no idea how bad it is in WoW. There are LITERALLY 4 models of gear in each WoW expansion for dungeon: one for plate, one for mail, one for leather and one for cloth. They're all copy-pasted in every single dungeon and look like dogshit.
Yes they are. Yet XIV still refuses to add it because YoshiP reserves the right for future cuckbait plots. Muh artistic freedom. What an idiot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it’s not because of “cuckbait” you subhuman, it’s because the interactions with the wol would have to become incredibly vague if one of the scions was “dating” the wol.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Right. That's why they decided to add Y'shtola getting princess carried twice by some rando when WoL hasn't even been able to touch her once. Not cuckbait. Right.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it’s not cuckoldry because the wol isn’t in a romantic relationship with yshtola. You are mentally ill.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the wol isn’t in a romantic relationship with yshtola
Right, the player is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, you aren’t.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing in the game indicates that the WoL and Y'shtola have romantic feelings for one anohter. The closest we've got to that with the WoL is Alisaie and even that was iffy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
LalaGODs keep cucking waifushitters, I love it
11 months ago
Anonymous
are they that desperate?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Add a bunch of homosexuals, trannies, lesbians and other variations of pedophilia >Only now wow players are interested in romancing npcs
Not sure. I've heard enough horror stories about mythic plus that I'm not sure I want something like that.
I would want something that's more 'midcore' like people on here describe -pegged between normal and savage, and NOT just boss fights. Variant dungeons are neat but suffer the same issues as regular dungeons where none of the mobs really pose a challenge. Criterion is just several savage raid bosses stapled together with a corridor between them, the mobs are barely an issue.
"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
Ah, okay. Well, those are interesting - I think Eureka has something going for it with the element system (I'm still stuck somewhere in pagos I think). Bozja was okay.
nice
[...] >"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
Diadem 1.0
Wasn't diadem 1.0 so bad they had to remove it? I'm a shadowbab so I never interacted with it, only ever heard the horror stories.
I kind of want more dungeons that are like the ARR ones, Aurum Vale had grit and character to it.
>Wasn't diadem 1.0 so bad they had to remove it?
Diadem 1.0 was actually pretty fun and "actual MMO" content where it was a big ass mystery zone, it's just that groups could go in with different goals and ways to achieve those goals and it caused a lot of fricking drama. So it went through 2 revamps (that I remember) and they even tried throwing in weapons that were stronger than the last stage relics to salvage it before it went through the final revamp to the gathering hell that it is today.
All right, that's enough.
We can now begin talking about the game.
Discuss what's the 'never seen before battle content' YoshiP was talking about.
Here's an idea I've had for a while about a new type of 'exploratory content':
Super-dungeons. Basically, massive, multi-floor, open-ended and not-randomly generated dungeons like in Final Fantasy XI. A group from 1 to 4 players can enter the dungeon, and you will have to slowly explore and map the area.
It will have a lot of hidden chests with unique rewards, randomly spawning Notorious Monsters, puzzles to open new areas, and so on.
the game has enough dungeons, we just got fricking variant dungeons. The game needs more zone content because FATES fricking suck and everywhere is dead and empty
People like instanced content nowadays, nobody wants to do field content unless they HAVE to. I'm not sure what they could do to salvage that.
...so Variant Dungeons, just bigger?
Variant dungeons still feel too much like themepark rides. I'm thinking of something a lot more 'oldschool MMO', where mobs were dangerous and the geography actively fricked with you.
>People like instanced content nowadays
where do you get this from?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Literally look at all modern MMOs. There's not one with well-liked field content and all their endgames are focused on instanced content. The days of everquest and FFXI are over.
We keep the idea but increase the maximum number of player up to 6 parties of 8. We'll do super alliance raids and in case there's not enough players the game will adjust with an echo bonus. It's time to have large scale raids back.
WoW has megadungeons with puzzles and optional bosses though. They're pretty far removed from XI style open dungeons, but they're also pretty different from the XIV style hallways with 3 circles for bosses
With random bosses pulled from every piece of content this game has. Frick yeah, I'd play that. Too bad we can't have FUN or the japs and the trannies will complain.
I want them to make a PvE mode where each job has a kit that's somewhat similar to PvP. Unique strengths and weaknesses, personal LB's and no strict rotation but more of a toolkit for different situations
>All right, that's enough. >We can now begin talking about the game. >Discuss what's the 'never seen before battle content' YoshiP was talking about.
it is extremely sad we have to post "bad" threads to talk about ff14.
I was hoping it would be the last expansion so this shitty MMO can stop cannibalizing resources but instead it's just a filler arc?
We have already seen this in FFXI when they released the 3 mini expansions between WotG and Abyssea, it's a sign the game is now in its zombie stage.
It's a boring pitch that you'd usually see for a mid-cycle patch not a full-blown expansion. Obviously they'll do what they normally do and have half the content take place in a completely different environment, but there's nothing to get excited for so far.
Endwalker was carried by Shadowbringers energy, but it was such dogshit Yawnfail won't get a similar benefit.
Npc dating is moronic because branching paths is antithetical to it being a movie game. Just play a dating vn if that’s what you want.
I want family members as furniture items. Like you buy your wife/husband/children and set them up in your house in 20 arrangements, and the game would roulette their positions when you entered your house. This has no effect on story, it’s occurring in the venue in which we can express our wold individuality.
the only thing going for XIV is the story and first time boss fights. the endgame is non-existent unless you do savage and everyone else has zero reason to pursue gear upgrades because it's totally unnecessary outside of savage. frick all to do in this game that's fun or worth doing outside of story updates or gold saucer events
I would argue the story and boss fights aren't worth much either.
The story is honestly a bunch of typical light novel stuff and there's WAY too much boring filler in between the interesting bits. And the boss fights consist of playing simon says stand where i tell you with the boss, i don't find it very fun.
The game needs a shakeup in formula
Every patch is the exact same
Dungeon, 8 man, MSQ that is just walking from one cutscene to another, a trial
Crafting/Gathering hasn't got anything new since the Diadem, housing is still as fricked as ever
The only good addition to endwalker was Variant dungeons and even those get old quick
>THREE expansions with the exact same cast (except Ryne changed with Estinien and MAYBE Krile getting an actual role)
This shit unironically makes me miss Stormblood's MSQ.
At least we had female characters back then.
One half of the Scions (likely Alisaie, G'raha and Estinien) will support one candidate for Tural's throne, and the other half will support another.
One of the candidate will be pro-Eorzean native, while the other will be a staunch isolationaist that wants the would-be colonizers off their land.
Ultimately they both will have to set aside their differences to deal with a third candidate that is objectively evil and cannot be allowed to get to power.
>SGE
Eukrasian Dyskrasia: AoE DoT
Eukrasian Phlegma: Has a cast time. Grants a 6s buff that guarantees a crit on your next Phlegma
Eukrasian Pneuma: Lower healing potency but adds a shield. Can stack with your other shields
Pankardia: Spreads Kardia to the whole party for 12 seconds (long cooldown oGCD)
Casting Dosis gradually fills up a meter, when the meter reaches 100% you get an Addersting (Toxicon) stack for free
Can "pop" Pankardia early, like WHM Bell/AST Star
Rhizomata guarantees a crit GCD shield like SCH Adlo
Some potency nerfs because SGE is already overpowered and I'm just buffing it
>SCH
3 DoTs with different timers
Can use Deployment Tactics to spread them on a trash pack (like in PvP). Deployment tactics isn't used very often in multi-target situations and this avoids having to (re)introduce a separate skill to spread DoTs
Remove Ruin2
Skill that spends 30 Faerie gauge on a small AoE shield
Some healing reworks but idk what
>WHM
Waterga/Waterja: A water AoE with no stun that later upgrades to Holy, available in the first dungeon
Cure1 upgrades to Cure2 by trait, freecure is removed
Medica1 upgrades to Medica2 by trait
Reduce the range of Medica2 and Cure3
Add an oGCD that doubles the range of Medica2 and Cure3 (and lillies?)
Extra charge for Tetragrammaton
Afflatus Rapture and Solace available by lv50
Afflatus Misery available by lv60
Skill glams so you can swap holy effects for elemental effects if you prefer the old WHM/CNJ aesthetic
>AST
It's already getting a full rework, I think it should have a more proc-based rotation and a slightly lower APM. I would achieve this by having your damage GCD proc cards rather than drawing cards manually.
Ranged auto-attack
Can hide the Yugioh holster thing
>Cure1 upgrades to Cure2 by trait, freecure is removed
please god >AST
just revert it back to stormblood ast, divide balance's damage bonus up among all the cards and make balance a DH buff
and turn spire into an evasion or blocking buff
I would rather have it on WHM. Sage could have Eukrasia memes, Scholar dots, Astro cards. And WHM gets spell combos like Aero after Holy is aoe dot, Holy after Glare is single target and grants a lily. Shit like that
It's really good right now and they'll surely ruin it. All it needs to be perfect is overcap chakra to 7, and maybe a way to proc 6-sided star that gives it a fast GCD
As someone who has only and exclusively played warrior, how the frick are you supposed to survive trash pulls as DRK? I go to press bloodwhetting and it's not there. I feel like I'm doing something wrong
I get such weird mixed signals from GW2's writing, you have stuff like in your pic but also there's this quest where you come across a tribe of fishmen who have their own customs and you and your quest giver are like "Sometimes you can't convince people, sometimes you just need to murder them all" and you go ahead and massacre the fish clan because their customs differ from yours.
zenos wasn’t a good character in stormblood. He only became later when they used him to get rid of the cringe black rose questline and he started dropping cool lines.
>Lyse stole our Valor! >No she didn't! >Zenos sucks! >I like Zenos! >Omega is literally a Tigole >Mr. Happy cleared UCOB before 4.2, why haven't you? >Where's Eureka??? >Why did Eureka fail? >Pyros saved Eureka, get the frick in here! >TENZEN FRICK ME TENZEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >MNKbros... >Hey guys....what if....we actually got blue mage next expansion lol? Like imagine? >FF11 was a better game >Praise Tanaka >1 IS A PRIME NUMBER
If only we knew how good we had it...
Yes, a lot. Though most of your GCD heals are actually going to be during the trash pack rooms because the bosses are almost entirely the same as their Criterion versions and you'll have them figured out by the time you're ready for Savage, but the Savage trash rooms are a completely different ball game and require A LOT more attention.
About on par, the difference is you're the only guy responsible and can't leverage any responsibility on anyone else. Barrier healers are much more favourable as a result. In Savage, you seriously need to respect the trash too.
>Esuna the CC >Healer can rescue you >Player CC abilities like stun, slow and sleep can be useful in return >Range can actually have a reason to use their interrupt ability
I just hope whatever Savage they release for Dawntrail that it will be fun, because EW's savage was pretty mid, and P9S-12S were just body checks and instant wipes which made it zzzz.
I wish more difficult bosses had dodging skillchecks like the first boss in Rokkon Criterion, with the lasers just randomly popping up and making it impossible for you to preposition to negate it completely. The only other boss I can remember having it is Barbariccia.
Make each boss drop a chest that drop a different gear piece - if you already killed and looted that boss that week you can't roll for it, but you can still roll for the bosses you haven't cleared.
If you didn't have lockouts you would have autists clearing the first boss over and over and that's it. Would suck to make a PUG, clear the first boss and then have some twat leave the dungeon so they can join another party and do the same.
Simply make it so each boss drops 4 pieces so each player can get at least one piece.
Literally just make them drop Savage adjacent gear. It's been two months after the tier fricking dropped, who gives a shit if it gives people a leg up. Everyone would appreciate more ways to gear their alt jobs without taking MONTHS to do so too.
More gearpieces but as drops instead of token exchange.
New one had nice amount of furnitures and minions as drops so next one should at least has that many. More visible differences between routes would be nice imo, some routes look same but different but still same.
Ngl I liked both Criterion so far but new one is better than the first one.
Tome augments is an easy answer. By the time it releases, good raiders have already cleared savage and it provides an extra avenue for catch-up gear. Beyond that, I dunno, but at least something more than materia.
Why didnt they just make relic weapon steps to be linked with criterion exploration is the most confusing thing to me
It solves the problems with the nonexistent relic steps and no incentives to do criterion
it has been like 2 years i last played, so i have not played endwalker:
-endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
-dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
-have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
-are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
>-endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
It's got pacing issues, but the reasons people shit on it hardest is actually a terribly subjective matter that's been argued in circles about by a group of autists who act like the game raped them irl. Saying much more would be too much spoiler. Also the patches do pretty much suck, 6.1 was good then it fell off a cliff. You might still like them. Depends on how much do you enjoy unironic edgelords with memory issues. >-dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
People are hating it? >-have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
Nah not really "major". They added Island Sanctuary for a subpar farming sim and Variant Dungeons which were content that died almost immediately because they forgot to make the rewards enticing and worth grinding for. EW MSQ introduced stuff like stealth following quests which were quickly discarded because no one fricking liked them and the first trial with NPC Trust, but that was just a one off. >-are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Not really, they're simplifying jobs one at a time to make space for future abilities.
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well i think it is only matter of time when i play endwalker, so i can make my own opinion. i think biggest fear i have is that how the frick can i learn to play the game again, i don't remember shit. all those rotations and binds are just gone. i don't even remember the details of the story.
>-endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
It's got pacing issues, but the reasons people shit on it hardest is actually a terribly subjective matter that's been argued in circles about by a group of autists who act like the game raped them irl. Saying much more would be too much spoiler. Also the patches do pretty much suck, 6.1 was good then it fell off a cliff. You might still like them. Depends on how much do you enjoy unironic edgelords with memory issues. >-dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
People are hating it? >-have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
Nah not really "major". They added Island Sanctuary for a subpar farming sim and Variant Dungeons which were content that died almost immediately because they forgot to make the rewards enticing and worth grinding for. EW MSQ introduced stuff like stealth following quests which were quickly discarded because no one fricking liked them and the first trial with NPC Trust, but that was just a one off. >-are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Not really, they're simplifying jobs one at a time to make space for future abilities.
Half the posters in these threads are either chatbots running on severely outdated software, or brown people who don’t actually play the game. (Current chatbots do a much better version of simulating humanity).
>endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
It's another expansion that tried to be two expansions at once and the story suffered heavily for it. Most people don't try to discuss the story anymore since it has devolved into autist witchhunting whether you're for or against it. >dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
It's a first fantfgest trailer, everything is speculation at this point so there is nothing really to say. Thus hate. >have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
Reaper is edgy scythe demon class. It's fun. Sage is laser shield healer. It's boring. >are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Jobs get simplified every expac, EW was no exception. For example, blm got a bunch of QoL that made it even easier to keep your rotation rolling.
>endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
The main expac is a clusterfrick of trying to resolve plot lines while still adding new ones. Still, with so much shit going on there were a lot less dull moments than ARR and Stormblood. The post expac content otoh is being drip-fed to us and it feels like a filler arc. Probably way better if you're marathoning through it instead of getting the 2 hours of story every 4 months. Variant dungeons are a nice change of pace, Island Sanctuary is more boring gathering slave labor, the Pandemonium raids were fun and it was nice to have a traditional JRPG villain that just wanted to play God for once but as a fan of FFII's Pande it was disappointing that it was only similar in name, and the music for the 24-man raids absolutely slaps this time around. Overall I still like EW, just think some of the shit with the plot ranged from rushed to pants-on-head moronic. >dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
With the post-EW content basically being filler, and the WoL going on "vacation" I think people are afraid of more filler. I'm so totally down for episodic adventuring scenarios where we just try to take a dragon's treasure or some shit I am fricking exhausted of apocalyptic bullshit. They can build back up to that shit again, but let me explore and find loot for now. >have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
See aforementioned Variant/Criterion dungeons and Island Sanctuary. >are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Nah, it's not an issue.
What do you want from the set bonuses? You can't have job specific bonuses that change how you play, because the jobs are designed fundamentally to be played a single way. If it's just passive damage increase, then what's the point?
>You can't have job specific bonuses that change how you play
You can't even do that even if you wanted to, because all Jobs share gear with at least one other job (except Ninja but that is about to change)
The only viable place to stick a bonus would be on the weapon or artefact gear but unless you're going all out by genuinely exploring horizontal progression options what's the fricking point. I don't feel like horizontal gear would be interesting within the framework of this game unless they specifically start tailoring the game around it. And who knows, maybe they will. Level 100 feels like a good point to stop levelling in general.
>Game is sterile as frick already >People still complain about the viability of some jobs >wants to add even more variables
It'll never happen, the dev team obviously doesn't have the talent or time to design shit that isn't overly curated
She deserved to die for what she pulled
about the only halfway decent thing they actually did with her character is her accepting judgement in that way
No thanks, I'm so tired of both zodiarktrancers and venathralls that I'd legit nuke both with no survivors. Pure fricking cancer, I hope none of this shit will be ever mentioned again.
These homosexuals are STILL shitting out videos? The only people that actually watch them are their own discord members. They also delete contrarian comments and criticism so I didn't bother with them after the first video.
They are not interested in an honest debate they just want to seethe about their headcanon not being reality.
>wanted her children to walk, effectively wanting them to be able cope with the inevitable tragedies of life and be able to keep going instead of constantly pining for what came before and to the future >this makes her the villain to basement dwellers
poetry
it’s not that they suck at rewards, it’s that it’s literally by design to have shit rewards. the average ffxiv tard constantly complains about ‘being forced to do’ xyz content for xyz rewards. if you put in a really desirable reward behind some piece of content, then all the limsa afkers will crawl out if the woodwork complaining about how they don’t like being forced to do criterion or something to get the reward
in a game with a completely different design philosophy, the players would view rewards as stepping stones to each other. like in runescape, doing a quest or minigame or activity to unlock new teleports, better places to level or make money, unlock special equipment that have a lot of general utility and/or can be taken into other activities to give yourself an advantage are all seen as desirable. in ffxiv, you cannot create such incentive structures because people already riot about “having to do” manderville or ivalice for relics
XIVgays don't want to play the game. They want to dress up and ERP. They don't want their costume pieces gated behind a stupid game they might have to take a hand off their dick to play.
Runescape's also structured much more differently with a much more horizontally inclined gearing and progression structure where even mid level stuff is relevant in high end content. It's not like XIV where you can't get away with wearing level 70 gear and expect to do the latest shit.
The "stepping stones" aren't so much nice things you can unlock to increase your range of options or have a sense of better QoL but largely things you need to do in order to get anything done at all. It's not really a surprise that a chunk of players would conflate it with tedium.
Oh yeah, and Runescape's gear isn't mostly untradeable so you're not locked into doing specific content to get what you want unless you're playing an Ironman.
There's no groups, or activity going on in either Eureka or Bozja. Yes, they can be played solo but there's nobody else if you're trying to clear bosses so it just becomes mindless grinding mobs to unlock the next area. I like it more than Island Sanctuary, but with no other players its just like grinding in a dead game mode for no reason.
Dawnrail trailer is getting hate because it focused on the same old characters we're tired of, in the same jungle environments we had in 2.0, and the deliberately hid anything potentially interesting about the enemies faced of new class gimmick. It's a company convinced that its memes are enough to sell more product.
Game is never going to reach the late-ShB, early EW peak again.
Never happening, bro.
You are not getting >hot bodies
You will have either Femroe reskins, or the Hunch >long full manes
You already know SE refuses to give players nice hair, much less long hair because of all the complaints about clipping with the short styles they already have. And clipping will NOT be fixed. >cute animal faces
You will either get the Hrothgar abominations you already have, or Miqote with sideburns (if you're lucky)
#1 Yoshi himself has said several times that hrothgar are deliberately intended to be distinct from existing races. And male hrothgar achieved that tbh. He even elaborated that they're not concerned with making a race that the majority would play, but rather, and he was very specific here, he wanted to make a race for the people that wanted it.
#2 Concept art for male hrothgar was notably rejected because it looked too similar to miqo'te/human. Evidently it is something they want to avoid. See point #1.
#3 We know for a fact that the team regularly observe fanworks and the like, there's no god damn way the popular hrothgal art from that korean dude hasn't passed over their desk at some point, let alone the piles of similar hrothgal art with virtually none of it resembling what we fear most.
#4 People point to that mural in Bozja but frankly if I had a nickel for every time CB3 deviated from their own art or designs in-game or as concept art I'd have ten dollars.
>Yoshi himself has said several times that hrothgar are deliberately intended to be distinct from existing races.
Yoshi has said a lot of things, anon.
Is BLU worth to farm HW FATEs for the ShB relics?
I feel like everything is immune to the cool stuff and I'm not really sure if just going, say, WHM is gonna be easier and slightly faster
The last we heard of femHroths was February 2022 when Yoshida said they'd narrowed down designs to two concepts and were yet to make a final choice between them
Westwolves bros... what happened?
I mean, yeah we're going west. But at what cost? Dawntrail is such a lame name and most people are already annoying me by saying Dawn"trial"
>yoshi-p posts new requires specs for 7.0 at Fan Fest >"But don't worry, PS4 is still supported."
It was PC holding the game back for years.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>required specs
Bro, you can be under those specs and the game will run fine and look better than it does on PS4, you can even throw reshade at it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yet ps4 is still supported for Dawntrail. Yet the PC requirements are now higher than before. Therefore, ps4 has never held the game back. pc did. He said more objects will be on screen in Dawntrail, which was not possible with the old requirements.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ps4 has never held the game back
Don't be a moron, the PS4 runs a Jaguar APU. At that's almost a decade old and it was AMD's low-power housefire.
11 months ago
Anonymous
FFXIV is a PS3 game. Always has been. Always will be. Had FFXIV been made on a PS4 engine, it would look vastly superior to the current game in every conceivable way. It's the ancient PS3 engine holding it back. You can't deny the jump in graphics and possibilities between the two systems.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>PS3 engine
You mean heavily modded crystal tools. At this point I think they should consider moving the game over to Luminous Engine just so they don't have to deal with that shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If it were possible to move engines they would have done it a long time ago. They would probably have to skip an entire expansion worth of content to make that happen, which would make the subs disappear
11 months ago
Anonymous
>moving the game over to the whole new engine
these Black folk cannot make viera hats for two addons now, fix the housing furniture to allow glamour dressers placed as interior objects, and stopping the game from kicking you out every time you log off
this is not happening
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think it's funny that all those issues are resolved by installing mods, maybe they should just release the source code for the game and have the modders deal with everything lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
XIV 2.0 was (is) luminous already, actually.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Then how the frick it looks so bad and how come it has less graphical features than other luminous games ? You need reshade just to make it not look like a bland mess.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He thinks an engine just magically poofs all the assets and shaders into existence without consideration of the target platform.
Because XIV was still developed primarily as a PS3 game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's hilarious how PC Mustard Race users always forget that not every PC user has a the most up-to-date high-end system. Yoshi-P announcing the new requirements was hilarious, when all the PC gays expected PS4 to be shut down and instead it's PC gays getting the boot.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The new pc specs aren't high at all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yet the requirements were increased, confirming it was not ps4 holding the game back, but pc. Now that the requirements are increased, they can put more objects on screen and use better graphics.
PS4 version will obviously be limited, pretty sure they mentioned lower specs and performance and may get a completely neutered version of the graphics update, if they get it at all.
they mentioned no such thing, I watched the entire presentation
11 months ago
Anonymous
because they dropped PS3 support, its still PS4 holding everything back
11 months ago
Anonymous
If that were true, why did nothing change after PS3 support ended (except for the zones being bigger)? Why does the game still look and feel like a low-end PS3 game? You cannot possibly think that the PS4 isn't capable of far superior graphics? Have you seen shit like Uncharted 4 with its massive high-fidelity levels, without any loading screens?
11 months ago
Anonymous
it looks like a ps3 game because most of the textures are dogshit and 90% of the shaders are turned off. things that require development to change and don't just magically improve automatically when you stop supporting 15 year old hardware configurations. are you moronic?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Correct. Meaning PS4 is not holding it back. Just it being a PS3 engine + devs being lazy. Are you moronic?
11 months ago
Anonymous
the ps4 is holding it back the same way the ps3 was its just capable of looking better than a ps3 was. you have downs syndrome or something right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
So why did the game not start looking better and get huge improvements after PS3 support stopped in 2017? If PS4 is holding the game back, where are all the improvements over the PS3 version?
>he thinks every port of the game has a different engine
I hope your handler is there today because you seem like the type that would swallow your tongue if left to their own devices.
Never said any of that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it being a PS3 engine
So what does this statement mean?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I just tried to communicate the game was made to run on a ps3 and ps3 specs. Not modern day specs, or even ps4 specs, which are far higher than ps3 specs
11 months ago
Anonymous
Right and that has little to do with the engine. When they port over the gane to a lower powered console they disable specific effects and lower texture and render resolution to get it to run smoothly. The game being ported to a PS3 says nothing about the maximum quality the engine can do (other than technologies that weren't out at the time being less likely to be integrated). The switch off of PS3 offloaded the dev requirement to have the PS3 textures and world design limitations, it's not a switch flip to magically make the non-PS3 textures better. That takes artists actually doing that work.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>where are all the improvements over the PS3 version?
Bigger zones that aren’t just a collection of flying islands and enough memory to show MP on the party list
11 months ago
Anonymous
>where are all the improvements over the PS3 version?
The UI has improved leaps and bounds.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he thinks every port of the game has a different engine
I hope your handler is there today because you seem like the type that would swallow your tongue if left to their own devices.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I dont think the min requirements were increased.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes they were, did you miss the Dawntrial keynote and Live Letter?
11 months ago
Anonymous
PS4 version will obviously be limited, pretty sure they mentioned lower specs and performance and may get a completely neutered version of the graphics update, if they get it at all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's hilarious how PC Mustard Race users always forget that not every PC user has a the most up-to-date high-end system.
You don't need those. >it's PC gays getting the boot.
We aren't.
If someone thinks whatever le epic grafix updates will make the game unplayable or run like shit on their current machine, just get reshade and run a couple of the more taxing presets and see how it runs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The PC recommended specs are like 10 year old hardware dude
They're never gonna make an MMO actually hardware intensive
they just assume all viera are going to be modding in their futa wieners anyway, they can handle their own hats.
At this point I just accept that I have to use the mod, it is pretty comprehensive and good at least. And... I'm fairly sure 99% of people playing hroth or viera have it anyway.
At this point I just accept that I have to use the mod, it is pretty comprehensive and good at least. And... I'm fairly sure 99% of people playing hroth or viera have it anyway.
>a job opened up to all content for the first time isn't new >redesigns never happen and the devs never treat them as new jobs. It's not like advertised EW in dlls and fanfests as summoner redesign being a functionally new job
Let me guess. PNT cope? YWNBAP
>the mag dps is actually blu but no fun edition
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
>Moonflute -> Primal Spam is such fun gameplay
BLU is beloved for its lore and flavor. Not it's playstyle. You will throw the fish in lvl 100 content and you will be happy.
>Scions getting their shit slapped by AncientDoom(TM) >"WoL, leave this to me" >Hits you with Malediction of Water, forcibly moving you to the next area >"This is my FINAL STING!!!!"
>Scions getting their shit slapped by AncientDoom(TM) >"WoL, leave this to me" >Hits you with Malediction of Water, forcibly moving you to the next area >"This is my FINAL STING!!!!"
The Scions really fricking need to learn how to channel the power of slapstick comedy. Endsinger wouldn't have been able to even scratch them if we could have Thancred, Estinien and Alisaie go full Godbert while Y'shtola, Urianger, G'raha and Alphinaud went full Martyn.
Tataru managed to tap into her inner clown for 2 seconds in ARR and she created an immortal carbuncle.
>won't be two short jobs >Meanwhile Stormblood gave us sword melee dps and sword caster dps
I just want you to know there's a history of releasing two sword jobs in the same expac
It's Corsair for Scouting and either Pictomancer of Green Mage for Casting.
Keep in mind that whatever the Casting job is, Krile will be switching to it.
Yoshi-P strictly said no Blitzball in remaining 6.X Gold Saucer content. Said nothing about it for 7.X They'll never do it though because their shitfrick engine couldn't handle real-time aiming with free Z-axis movement
Extended trailer (showing off the character with the first new job)
Trailer and Info on the first new Job (whatever the shirt is teasing)
Raid Details
Zone Previews w/ Videos
Major character details and maybe one of the big bosses
Does anyone else turn off glare in the graphics settings? I went into the fookin' saucer with it on and nearly went fricking blind, it's some of the bloomiest bloom I'd ever seen and I survived the fricking 360 era of vidya.
Are we going to be stuck with shitty role quests again over actual job quests?
Poor Arya is forever stuck in Mor Dhona... I want to go on new adventures with her...
Sidequest limbo is the dumbest thing. >Class NPCs are unusable, inclusing Y'shtola's sister and FRICKING NYM (but Estinien had no issue becoming a scion because he is fujobait) >We are going to resolve the void in the blandest way possible because we can't use Mhach, Diabolos, or the gang from the first. >Ryne is stuck because of Eden >No Ivalice or Ilsabard expansion because of the Ivalice content, forget about Lyon or Pagaga. too.
Just force people to do a few quests more or introduce them anyways, they did that with Alisaie and Fujocat anyways.
Dumb part is that they picked the npcs that would have the least to bring to the story. >Contingent that has to accompany the Scions into Garlemald to help the survivors and stop Zenos. >Don't bring Radovan to show that he's able to put Bozja behind and help people in need. >Don't bring Widargelt to see him help the people that conquered his homeland. >Don't bring Y'mhitra to see her team up with her sister and show her worry when she gets a headache. >Don't bring X'rhun to see him team up with his student. >Don't bring basically anyone that actually had something to do with the plot at hand, just characters who are completely neutral to it.
Some anon said operations like that do tend to bring people who wouldn't be too involved with the conflict and could bring over grudges, but then I realized we did bring fricking Rostik and several other bozjans so that excuse doesn't even work. And still good because Rostik at least gets to team up with Thancred, but at the same time bad because he also doesn't say a single goddamn thing the entire time.
>all that coping over yoshi-p announcing new pc specs >no no i swear it totally doesn't matter that we need higher specs now really, yoshi-p was only announcing it as a joke, nothing will be different going forward
Anyone worried about the update should just calm down and wait for the Benchmark to see where they stand.
You can tinker with settings in those right? I can't remember as I haven't messed with one lately.
Also remember we have at least a year so we have a LONG way to go before it's even a concern. Yoshida qualifying "summer 2024" instantly made me suspect it's going to be late summer, not early or middle.
The new minimum specs are just the current recommended specs. All that's changed is the minimum required GPU has gone from one that's over 10 years old to one that's... 8 years old. Whoa... so many PC users are gonna feel this one.
I might because even old GPUs are still overpriced. It's getting better at least. I've been looking at a 1060 and wondering if that would be good enough. Gotta make due with what I can get so I'm not after 600 fps/4k I just want it to be playable kek.
GPU prices are good now compared to what they've been for the past 3-4 years. I'm in an euro shithole with frickhuge VAT and import taxes and you can get a 6700XT for a bit under $400, a 6650XT for around $300 and a 6600 for about $250. Unless you're a literal NEET who has no income there are no excuses not to FRICKING DAB on those console peasants with the latest tech.
I don't wanna get political but the Covid shit killed my source of income so times are tough. Anyway I have a year so I should be okay, just wondering really.
That's understandable. Either way, I don't think anyone should worry about the specs, all they're doing is a basic reshade filter and some upscaled textures which are not really taxing on your system.
I wish they had shown more info on their requirements graphic. I assume those specs are aiming for 60FPS and the resolutions shown but they didn't go into too much detail about it. I hope they are courteous enough to release the benchmark with ample time for people to see where they stand and prepare.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean look, if the game will continue to run on a PS4 you don't have to worry about think. A PS4 has a undervolted underclocked 10 years old AMD APU running on 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM, if your system is better than that you're good. And most likely it is better than that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm coping with the knowledge that Japanese devs tend to list wild requirements on their games and they aren't to be trusted but I'm sure I'll be alright.
I'd really like the one on the left with the wild messy style but there's no way they'd ever do that kind of hair so we're fricked. The middle one works with it as the "cuter" one kind of how one of the bunny faces is the young one.
Get that thing away from me right now, uncanny valley shit
Such a shame they're stuck on such a dogshit game.
Honestly my biggest point will be the face. I want a proper muzzle not a shitty cat nose on a human face. I want hrothgar but female not a different species, it was bad enough with au'ra.
Don't care. It looked better, played better and the story/setting wasn't written by stinky otaku. FFXI fans were robbed and SE handed their sequel over to the worst MMO fans out there.
>sucks for soloing
What are you talking about? DPS can die to mechanics if you're bad and healers are fricking boring to play. Tanks are the most reliable soloers. I guess if you mean that it's more boring because you can just tank mechanics then yeah, DPS are better
warrior
whm in terms of doing hard content, but I end up daily playing war most often simply because i like getting paid and going to the front of the line.
>WoW
Mage, if it was a tier when mages were bad, I would be the one mage in my guild. I was the only dedicated mage main and any other mages were multiclassers who would play it in tiers it was really good like Ny'alotha. >XIV
Everything, I just flex to what my group needs. I play WAR right now though.
All tanks will forever stay in the cuckshed of static as frick and boring rotations. If you'd have to pay attention to what you're doing, you might forget to use defensives and wipe the group
there used to be 3 different types of shields in ARR, Tower (high defense but low block rate) Standard (50/50 defense and block rate) and Bucklers, low defense but high block rate) this was naturally cut so all shields are just regular and you still won't get tower shields, enjoy your bucklers and pig stickers
Skill and Spell speed stats merged and buffed.
Storm's eye gives 20% haste instead of 10% damage, I miss old blood weapon
DRK has something to press outside the one minute bust.
Two charges on GNB combo and blasting zone, with no mercy redesigned
Cleric Stance
>Wanting the return of the 0 DPS healers.
I like being able to do my roulettes as a tank or DPS and no having them taking 10 minutes more.
an execute (like wow) ability to piss away all my extra rage at the end of a fight.
OR
the ability to turn off the rage super saiyan effect. It looks like crap. I'd like a better "spell effects: lite" in general so you don't have to choose between an EDM concert or a few boring puddles as spell effects.
rework every job with the same design philosophy they used for pvp but in pve form, then build from there.
i really don't know hoe they think they can update the game for another decade when i alredy have 3-4 full hotbars already bound
>Elusive Jump is actually a jump and can clear gaps similar to shikuchi and thunder clap. Instead of chucking you down into the abyss >More jumps >A jump exclusive made for gap closing >No longer a buff prostitute. (Why the frick is a job that lore wise only has about a dozen or so members the fricking buff prostitute? Meanwhile SAM has an entire organisation, but they're the selfish DPS? So fricking moronic). >Animation upgrade for the first two basic combo buttons >Blood of the Dragon enhances all your abilities and changes the animation for some of them too
If I had to make one major change though, I'd want Blood of the Dragon to be something of a toggleable ability that acts similar to blood for blood.
DRGs are buffchads because their very presence makes everyone fight harder because they want to look good in front of the fat dicked DRGchad >pictured, a SAM kneeling before a DRG
>SAM ends up dealing more damage anyway
Yeah, that's a cuck cope bro. Frick everyone else, I shouldn't be some buff b***h, leave that shit to physical range
SAM's don't inspire anyone, they just exist and make no notable mark on the world, DRG's inspire their comrades and are beloved by all and it shows in their skills
this is canon
SAMs a literally peace-keepers in Kugane and DRGs are out of a job after HW. Stop the cope bro.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>DRGs won so hard they put themselves out of the job, made peace with their former enemy and now have the power to fight with the power of dragons >SAMs are still just fricking around accomplishing nothing
11 months ago
Anonymous
>DRGs lost their entire purpose >SAMs still have a purpose
You can try to spin this however you want, but DRG always come out on the bottom.
The caster job will be Geomancer, and before you come at me with your gay "there were Geomancers in AST story line, they're just weeb Conjurors" remember AST were in ARR, and they're nothing like the playable AST
it will be Geomancer because Tugal is nature unbridled, what better place to commune with nature (not the elementals) than a place where they're all present and unrestrained
>got any evidence to support that?
The turtles are named after artists, it's going to be pictomancer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The turtles are green, its going to be Green Mage
The turtles represent the elements water, fire, earth, and grape its going to be Geomancer
TMNT, TM, its Time Mage
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Master Splinter
Burmecians confirmed
11 months ago
Anonymous
The turtles are taught by their master a beast, its Beastmaster the trailer was showing off the caster Rune Knight
11 months ago
Anonymous
We've got Ninja and Sam already, so it'll be a class with the Polearm or nunchakus or a grappling hook of some kind.
Or it could be a class that is able to swap between each weapon. Who fricking knows?
>PS3 MMO with a shit engine and bad looking meshes/models >Boring as frick MSQ and non-existent leveling experience >Insufferable playerbase of troons and autists
take your pick
>Ascians see the sundered as shallow broken husks >Venat loves the Sundered with all her heart because she believes they are perfect in their imperfection and that beauty makes them special in a way that the Ancients never could be
The Ancients reaction to the first tragedy they ever had in eons was to throw lives into a grinder and try get back what they lost, they never considered moving onwards, homies couldn't walk
The Sundered on the other hand grow stronger from their experiences and even when faced with tragedy, have the potential to move ever onwards, they can walk
All ancients were flawed, the same way Athene was the extreme example of. Next to no consideration for playing with living beings like toys. Death and life are ultimately interconnected and if you as a species don't fear death anymore, you are also disconnected from life and unable to persist. They were on a long downward slide towards oblivion. Which the emo birdy just accelerated.
>I miss my friends >So I'll recreate the entire capitol city of the old World and fill it with the echos of my friends so I'm never alone >I miss my friends.
Changing femra to type 2 aura, femlala to type 2 lala:
It's DOA because they're still too fricking stubborn to add npc dating. Even WoW is adding it next expansion. YoshiP is so fricking dumb. NOOOO YOU CAN'T ROMANCE Y'SHTOLA IT LIMITS THE STORY WHAT IF I WANT TO ADD MORE KEKBAIT LIKE RUNAR??? moron deserved the XVI flop debacle. Dumb jap.
>Even WoW is adding it next expansion.
moron
what the hell am I looking at
a better game
The real problem is idiots like this who stifle what they can do with the story. Because in their mind, yshtola is their "waifu", there is limit to the sort of charcters you can write. Ever notice how almost every single character is single in this game? Even characters like Rauhbaun or Gaius who are middle-aged, successful, and have *adopted children*? Its because schizos get insanely jealous if you write any characters with spouses or lovers. Fourchaninode and the Chais are the only fricking married people in the entire game.
Forchenault and Amelliance
The Chais
Gorge and Dorgono
Aldis and Mylla
Alka Zolka and Setoto
Tankin and Hinageshi
Etc.
And if you want to go into onesided crushes instead of reciprocated ones, the list becomes way longer.
>Even characters like Rauhbaun or Gaius who are middle-aged, successful, and have *adopted children*?
Have you considered that the reason they're not married is because they're both military men who are often out on campaign and are both tormented by their pasts rather than because these two characters who were in the game from even 1.0 were somehow made single because "Wait, people want to frick them"?
God it pisses me off when shallow fricks like you complain about "limiting the writing" and then you reveal that what you really want is to just cater to the shipping community no matter how little it might actually bring to the character or how ill-fitting it might be.
>Aldis and Mylla
WHEN WILL THEY FRICK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
When Aldis decides it's no longer funny to upset her.
So never
He might... if the job quests actually went on for longer. So never. yeah.
Mylla is a moronic femcel and deserves to be alone
Do you even tsun derry
>cater to the shipping community
no you dumbfrick giving canon spouses ends all possiblity of shipping.
>because they're both military men who are often out on campaign
yeah and thats why having a wife would be even more important. What the hell is going on at Balthasar household with 10 kids running around while he is off crushing a rebellion in Eorzea?
Rauhbaun is easier to understand; the originally wrote him as carrying a torch for Nanamo. But having this giant dusky mhigger sniffing strawberry shortcakes undies made people uncomfortable, so deported his ass to ala mhigo (which politically, would have been one of the dumbest moves Nanamo could have ever done. Even for a character as moronic as Nanamo, exiling her single reliable court ally is a colossal blunder).
>But having this giant dusky mhigger sniffing strawberry shortcakes undies
You want the devs to start ignoring the players to ship off characters they like. You're not even addressing that the game does have plenty of couples and love stories, it just happens to be ones you don't care for or don't like. That's shipping, you want certain characters to get paired off and are complaining that they aren't. You want to get catered to.
>What the hell is going on at Balthasar household with 10 kids running around while he is off crushing a rebellion in Eorzea?
He's a noble, he has servants and probably other members of his family branch. The fact he ended up being absent from their lifes for a long period of time even ended up being a vital part of forming their story in Werlyt. What does giving Gaius a wife contribute to?
I don't even like the plot point of Nanamo sending Raubahn off and always thought that was a dumb decision on her part, but I'm not delusional enough it happened because "OMG dem evil players caused this to happen because they lust after Nanamo." It happened because whoever was in charge of writing the Ala Mhigo part of the game decided Raubahn should go back to conclude his character arc.
Still within onesided crush until Sidurgu pronounces how he feels about it.
>He's a noble, he has servants and probably other members of his family branch. The fact he ended up being absent from their lifes for a long period of time even ended up being a vital part of forming their story in Werlyt. What does giving Gaius a wife contribute to?
you should read some novels from the 17-19th centuries. You cannot just "leave your household in care of your servants" and assume things aren't going get really fricking weird. You need a wife aligned with your interests on site to oversee your affairs. Servants are great, but they do not actually have aligned interests with you.
>it just happens to be ones you don't care for or don't like
But I do like them anon. Whats bizarre is the characters who have no real reason to be single, to be single. And being single is overwhelmingly the norm in Etheirys, so yshtola gooners don't get jealous of some fricking catman.
>you should read some novels from the 17-19th centuries. You cannot just "leave your household in care of your servants" and assume things aren't going get really fricking weird.
So exactly how they got? Really fricking wierd? Or did you think it was perfectly normal to have Lyvia lusting for her adopted dad, and all the others joining a suicide program where they pushed their father's ideals to the extreme?
>so yshtola gooners don't get jealous of some fricking catman.
Have you considered that the reason Y'shtola didn't hook up with Runar isn't because of much evil players who get jealous (and who if they were genuinely catering to they wouldn't have had Runar at all to begin with), but rather because Runar is a big loser hermit whose only noteworthy skill is making stew, who shows no interest at all in her life beyond just staying at his home and protecting them and doesn't even try to get to know her friends in turn, who will die in a blink while she's in any of the other shards, and that the only lifestyle he can offer her is to renounce to her dreams and goals in life as well as to the Scions, Matoya, Y'mhitra and her home world to instead pray to a "god" she's on a friendly basis with in some forest because otherwise the catman will cry?
This is what I fricking mean by shippers not caring about whether their ship actually brings something to the character or even makes sense. There's a fricking reason the only people who ever bring up Runar are those who hate Y'shtola and want her to disappear from the game. Because that's literally the only thing you're offering, not fleshing her out or removing the limits of the writing.
>all this "anti-shippers" nonsense is just squid ink for a y'shtola gooner
figures. PS still haven't read your magnum opus.
I only mentioned Y'shtola because that anon brought her up as premier example of "X ship didn't happen because the players bully the writers" and I had been talking about Gaius and Raubahn that entire time before, schizo-kun.
Every fricking lore argument in these threads has just become "Am I losing this discussion? Just cram an unprompted sideways insult towards either Venat or Y'shtola in there and the instant the other guy addresses it I can accuse him of just being a waifugay and ignore everything else"
You forget the most kino pairing, Sidurgu and Rielle
Rielle wishes, but she'll need to perfect her femzen rape technique to make it happen
>Gorge and Dorgono
Imagine the bed breaking moron sex.
Gorge is so fricking inept that I'm pretty sure he can't even get it up
>can't romance characters as it limits story
>for like 10 years now the story hasn't done jackshit in terms of characters having relations with each other beyond them all being pals, or having any emotional moments/developments
lol, lmao even. I like xiv but the characters have been totally frozen forever now. No, giving them a different jacket every few years doesn't count.
Because there won't be enough Y'shtola. And yes I know she was shown there but since Alphinaud and Alisaie are gonna be there she won't get much to do.
Well first of all we'd have to make it work to begin with. This would likely mean either only being able to date inconsequential NPCs or allowing you to date notable characters but not acknowledging it in any story content.
And second it'd be a slippery slope. Imagine the content exists but it only allows you to date either G'raha or Alisaie? All the people who want to frick Y'shtola or Estinien would be upset. As another anon mentioned there's a reason why so many characters are single in this game.
doa beach volleyball maybe
nice
>"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
Diadem 1.0
Yeah I don't think Ganker autists understand the dedication of the FF14 audience. They'll cling to the game simply because it's not WoW.
Whats a good DC to go through the msq on? Took 20 minutes to get a group for the first trial in HW.
Anything that isn't the Australian servers.
I understand and feel you anger, anon. It is actually absolute braindead to not add that feature.
The worst part is they keep adding more and more of it for NPCs with NPCs while WoL stays a fricking pathetic virgin. Then YoshiP copes with
>b... but that's what player eb is for!
Troon shit. Disregarded. I mean for frick's sake that brainlet Curious Gorge gets laid before WoL does. The class moron losing virginity before the supposed chad godslaying jock? LOL
>Game with character creation
>Anon created a virgin
You boring fricks just cant stop self inserting, huh?
>ummmm i bonded with my eb it sounds like a you problem 🙂
No. You've been sexting with a troony. Weirdo.
What is a eb?
And why do you immediately start talking about sexting with trannies?
Was that a freudian slip?
The only reason there is no romance is because Lalas are a playable race, Square already said so years ago
pedo tax
WoL is ADVENTUREsexual, the thrill of adventure is his mistress and he's monogamous
>that tired look in his eyes
Bro clearly needs some love coupled with R&R
No, he just needed adventure that didn't involve war or death and destruction of literal entire cultures.
>ARR was nothing but Primal shit stomping and Garlean war after your 'Venturin days ended
>HW was technically war
>SB was all war (and Tataru was the only one who got to enjoy Kugane)
>ShB adventure in the brightest most depressing place ever crafted and other world destruction prevention
>EW literally save everyone and everything from gloom in it's gloomiest form
WoL wants his "childhood" back, he got to 'venture, dig up treasure, get into fights where even if he lost the consequences aren't "EVERYBODY IS FOOKIN' DEAD, YOU DONE FRICKED US ALL YOU NONCE!". He wants adventure and foightin' 'round the world where the stakes aren't horrible on failure.
WoL is Zenos mixed with Venat. Came for the adventure, stayed for the foightin', and if it helps mother frickers with problems then all the better.A real WoL wouldn't have entertained Zenos, homieh outright says you can refuse the fight and he'll deal with it.
And some DL time with Graha
Yshtola is the Graha of female characters.
Actually, that's too generous. Graha went through character development and has proven to be useful on multiple occasions.
Yshtola gets shilled hard outside the game but in it she’s irrelevant. Alisae is the female Graha.
>Twins get to be involved in every single plotline ever since they got introduced.
>Just got out of an expansion where every major point was resolved by them or suddenly started being about them despite barely being involved.
>In ShB Alisaie straight up complains that the plot wasn't about them even though they both got EXTENSIVE plotlines with Eulmore and the sin eaterification/tempering stuff that actually exceeded most of the others in length.
>Now we've got yet another expansion incoming that straight up opens up with "WoL, Alphinaud and Alisaie go to..."
>Even in this patch filler arc where they were supposed to be working on something else Alisaie still gets to deliver the biggest speech that changes Zero's outlook the most.
>Meanwhile, any time any other Scion ever gets attention for one zone or patch they immediately get fricking kneecapped and forced to stay quiet for a whole year after.
>Y'shtola and Estinien got like one patch of focus where they started a storyline and then immediately got sidelined for 3 in a row, and considering we seem to be visiting the First with just Zero it's fricking obvious they're going for 4.
our guy alphi hasnt done much. alisaie talks too much and needs to frick off. alphi was just chilling on the boat.
Well we are only Alphinauds friend after all.
Estinien had a WHOLE expansion, bro. In fact he basically shared screening with Yshtola and still came out with 50x the development.
>Estinien had a WHOLE expansion, bro.
Wow, Estinien had a WHOLE expansion almost a decade ago. And Y'shtola got to be in about a third or fourth of it. And ever since every part of content they get to be a part of has to be dropped one minute at a time and with time to rest between each in case they interfere too much with the twins deciding everything all the time.
Oh and that WHOLE expansion involved Alphinaud more than it did Estinien.
>>In ShB Alisaie straight up complains that the plot wasn't about them even though they both got EXTENSIVE plotlines with Eulmore and the sin eaterification/tempering stuff that actually exceeded most of the others in length.
That was just a 4th wall break joke complaining that Y'shtola/Urianger/Thancred got new outfits and jobs for ShB but she and Alphi didn't
But they did. Alisaie got this in ShB. Alphinaud also got a different outfit.
I basically quit the game because Alisae was just too fricking annoying. I really wished that she'd stay down for longer when she pounded into submission in SB.
Sorry to say anon, but Alisaie is annoying because she's in love with the Wol and is trying very hard to measure up/ impress him ( Wol is a male I don't give a frick what people want to chose he'll always be a man) and then later in Endwalker she wants to do more so the Wol isn't so relied upon to always save the realm.
>character development
more like character degeneration
because everything after 6.0 was filler and they are following that with an entire ''beach episode'' filler expansion
it won't matter tho since the people still playing this shit will eat it up regardless
Because no mention of a solo duty where you make out with, sexo, and pump up Y'shtola with whipped cream until she explodes.
All right, that's enough.
We can now begin talking about the game.
Discuss what's the 'never seen before battle content' YoshiP was talking about.
Pressing 1 then 2 then 3
I just want a mythic plus equivalent that gives better and better gear the harder you go.
Plus, if the rumors are true they'll add exploratory content again, at this point I'd say it's a 50/50 chance of the expansion being good. The only bad thing is that it launches next year.
>gives better and better gear the harder you go.
That would require a massive change in how they do Item Levels, which right now are just in increments of 10 and sometimes 5. They would have to allow greater variance in Ilevel like in early ARR which I don't see happening.
Plus, the reason WoW can do Mythic+ is because all dungeon gear in an expansion is literally the sam but recolored and given a different name to pretend it's different, while in FFXIV all dungeons have different looking gear.
>while in FFXIV all dungeons have different looking gear.
Not really, at this point most of them are reskins.
You really have no idea how bad it is in WoW. There are LITERALLY 4 models of gear in each WoW expansion for dungeon: one for plate, one for mail, one for leather and one for cloth. They're all copy-pasted in every single dungeon and look like dogshit.
At least WoW's adding NPC dating.
>WoW's adding NPC dating.
Are they?
Yes they are. Yet XIV still refuses to add it because YoshiP reserves the right for future cuckbait plots. Muh artistic freedom. What an idiot.
it’s not because of “cuckbait” you subhuman, it’s because the interactions with the wol would have to become incredibly vague if one of the scions was “dating” the wol.
Right. That's why they decided to add Y'shtola getting princess carried twice by some rando when WoL hasn't even been able to touch her once. Not cuckbait. Right.
it’s not cuckoldry because the wol isn’t in a romantic relationship with yshtola. You are mentally ill.
>the wol isn’t in a romantic relationship with yshtola
Right, the player is.
No, you aren’t.
Nothing in the game indicates that the WoL and Y'shtola have romantic feelings for one anohter. The closest we've got to that with the WoL is Alisaie and even that was iffy.
LalaGODs keep cucking waifushitters, I love it
are they that desperate?
>Add a bunch of homosexuals, trannies, lesbians and other variations of pedophilia
>Only now wow players are interested in romancing npcs
I think nobody cares about that since you'll glam/transmog it either way. I've never actually seen anyone that finished with ARR not having a glam on.
>Models
I thought they still use bodypaints?
Not sure. I've heard enough horror stories about mythic plus that I'm not sure I want something like that.
I would want something that's more 'midcore' like people on here describe -pegged between normal and savage, and NOT just boss fights. Variant dungeons are neat but suffer the same issues as regular dungeons where none of the mobs really pose a challenge. Criterion is just several savage raid bosses stapled together with a corridor between them, the mobs are barely an issue.
"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
>"Exploratory content" sounds fun but I'm not sure what it is when people refer to it.
Bozja and Eureka.
Ah, okay. Well, those are interesting - I think Eureka has something going for it with the element system (I'm still stuck somewhere in pagos I think). Bozja was okay.
Wasn't diadem 1.0 so bad they had to remove it? I'm a shadowbab so I never interacted with it, only ever heard the horror stories.
I kind of want more dungeons that are like the ARR ones, Aurum Vale had grit and character to it.
>Wasn't diadem 1.0 so bad they had to remove it?
Diadem 1.0 was actually pretty fun and "actual MMO" content where it was a big ass mystery zone, it's just that groups could go in with different goals and ways to achieve those goals and it caused a lot of fricking drama. So it went through 2 revamps (that I remember) and they even tried throwing in weapons that were stronger than the last stage relics to salvage it before it went through the final revamp to the gathering hell that it is today.
Here's an idea I've had for a while about a new type of 'exploratory content':
Super-dungeons. Basically, massive, multi-floor, open-ended and not-randomly generated dungeons like in Final Fantasy XI. A group from 1 to 4 players can enter the dungeon, and you will have to slowly explore and map the area.
It will have a lot of hidden chests with unique rewards, randomly spawning Notorious Monsters, puzzles to open new areas, and so on.
Thoughts?
...so Variant Dungeons, just bigger?
the game has enough dungeons, we just got fricking variant dungeons. The game needs more zone content because FATES fricking suck and everywhere is dead and empty
>the game has enough dungeons
agreed, they've done all they can with that formula now. it's stale.
People like instanced content nowadays, nobody wants to do field content unless they HAVE to. I'm not sure what they could do to salvage that.
Variant dungeons still feel too much like themepark rides. I'm thinking of something a lot more 'oldschool MMO', where mobs were dangerous and the geography actively fricked with you.
>People like instanced content nowadays
where do you get this from?
Literally look at all modern MMOs. There's not one with well-liked field content and all their endgames are focused on instanced content. The days of everquest and FFXI are over.
You are looking in the wrong fricking place then dude.
I know it's a pipedream, but I geniuenly don't know what else they could do that they haven't tried already.
We keep the idea but increase the maximum number of player up to 6 parties of 8. We'll do super alliance raids and in case there's not enough players the game will adjust with an echo bonus. It's time to have large scale raids back.
>A group from 1 to 4 players
Weak garbage. Give me 8 or 16 player dungeons with diverging paths where players can have dynamic light parties
Please stop these fantasies. It's pointless since cool stuff like this will never be in the game... all it does is create false hope.
I will forever be a dreamer.
I like field content as much as the next person but the WoWfugees want WoW not FFXI so that's what we're going to get.
WoW has megadungeons with puzzles and optional bosses though. They're pretty far removed from XI style open dungeons, but they're also pretty different from the XIV style hallways with 3 circles for bosses
Make it overworld content where I can just run into parties and join them and not instances and I'll play
Bozja with colours, please.
given the track record probably something inane and boring where you spam your braindead rotation for a few hours then unsub again
A duty that's one room longer.
Alliance raid and Deep Dungeon combined.
Imagine doing PotD/HoH/EO but scaled for 24man groups
With random bosses pulled from every piece of content this game has. Frick yeah, I'd play that. Too bad we can't have FUN or the japs and the trannies will complain.
Farm FATEs but inside a corridor.
I want them to make a PvE mode where each job has a kit that's somewhat similar to PvP. Unique strengths and weaknesses, personal LB's and no strict rotation but more of a toolkit for different situations
>All right, that's enough.
>We can now begin talking about the game.
>Discuss what's the 'never seen before battle content' YoshiP was talking about.
it is extremely sad we have to post "bad" threads to talk about ff14.
I'm worried at how they'll fricking ruin Dragoon
Pick head or tails and I'll tell you.
jobs will get dumber down even more
healers will still be unplayable
erenville shit unless he takes us to dalmasca so we can see bwaagi and lyon. Alphinaud will be my cabin boy.
cato sexo
I was hoping it would be the last expansion so this shitty MMO can stop cannibalizing resources but instead it's just a filler arc?
We have already seen this in FFXI when they released the 3 mini expansions between WotG and Abyssea, it's a sign the game is now in its zombie stage.
>the last expansion
moron
do you not know how MMOs work? We're going to get expacs until the game actually does die zombie mode or not
>gold saucer updates
>nothing but triple triad cards
i got duped by endwalker, never again
I need to impregnate Gaia
It's a boring pitch that you'd usually see for a mid-cycle patch not a full-blown expansion. Obviously they'll do what they normally do and have half the content take place in a completely different environment, but there's nothing to get excited for so far.
Endwalker was carried by Shadowbringers energy, but it was such dogshit Yawnfail won't get a similar benefit.
whos tickling gatto sexo?
>her ears flicker when she orgasms
That's the best part.
Juan Fantasia forma Conquistador
bogged
Can't tell if she got back her tan or if it's just lightning.
She's always been lightly tanned. it's just when she's outside in the sun the light makes it hard to see while in that scene she's in the shade.
she's looking much healthier now compared to the endwalker trailer. was worried about her
thancred looked weird too.
Npc dating is moronic because branching paths is antithetical to it being a movie game. Just play a dating vn if that’s what you want.
I want family members as furniture items. Like you buy your wife/husband/children and set them up in your house in 20 arrangements, and the game would roulette their positions when you entered your house. This has no effect on story, it’s occurring in the venue in which we can express our wold individuality.
I'm sure the idea of having spouses as literal furniture would go over great with the audience.
>your objectifying objects in a video game!
incredibly stupid people will always talk.
the only thing going for XIV is the story and first time boss fights. the endgame is non-existent unless you do savage and everyone else has zero reason to pursue gear upgrades because it's totally unnecessary outside of savage. frick all to do in this game that's fun or worth doing outside of story updates or gold saucer events
I would argue the story and boss fights aren't worth much either.
The story is honestly a bunch of typical light novel stuff and there's WAY too much boring filler in between the interesting bits. And the boss fights consist of playing simon says stand where i tell you with the boss, i don't find it very fun.
>wowgay refugee makes wishful statement
>asks everyone else to prove his moronic point
>Dawntrail is DOA, discuss why.
No Lyse
they will pull a zanarkand and have the whimsical beach paradise not really exist
it's doa because it has too much y'shtola
>DT teaser already has more views than EW teaser
LOL
>post this picture in FC discord
>BR girl replies "me on the right"
bros... do actual biofems like the racism?
>do actual biofems like the racism?
White ones only like racism against indians and orientals. They find that shit hilarious.
It does not
The game needs a shakeup in formula
Every patch is the exact same
Dungeon, 8 man, MSQ that is just walking from one cutscene to another, a trial
Crafting/Gathering hasn't got anything new since the Diadem, housing is still as fricked as ever
The only good addition to endwalker was Variant dungeons and even those get old quick
You could literally put this post in any XIV thread made since HW lol.
Protip: the game is a success because the devs AREN'T listening to the fanbase.
REMOVE the scions
they are the WORST thing about the game
Remove yourself
>he loves having everything revolve around lame anime characters that babel constantly about nothing while you do all the actual work
>Remove yourself
>THREE expansions with the exact same cast (except Ryne changed with Estinien and MAYBE Krile getting an actual role)
This shit unironically makes me miss Stormblood's MSQ.
At least we had female characters back then.
I miss Yugiri and Lyse
One half of the Scions (likely Alisaie, G'raha and Estinien) will support one candidate for Tural's throne, and the other half will support another.
One of the candidate will be pro-Eorzean native, while the other will be a staunch isolationaist that wants the would-be colonizers off their land.
Ultimately they both will have to set aside their differences to deal with a third candidate that is objectively evil and cannot be allowed to get to power.
You're welcome.
>no option to abolish the monarchy
Fricking backwards ass Japs.
Gato sexo
>SGE
Eukrasian Dyskrasia: AoE DoT
Eukrasian Phlegma: Has a cast time. Grants a 6s buff that guarantees a crit on your next Phlegma
Eukrasian Pneuma: Lower healing potency but adds a shield. Can stack with your other shields
Pankardia: Spreads Kardia to the whole party for 12 seconds (long cooldown oGCD)
Casting Dosis gradually fills up a meter, when the meter reaches 100% you get an Addersting (Toxicon) stack for free
Can "pop" Pankardia early, like WHM Bell/AST Star
Rhizomata guarantees a crit GCD shield like SCH Adlo
Some potency nerfs because SGE is already overpowered and I'm just buffing it
>SCH
3 DoTs with different timers
Can use Deployment Tactics to spread them on a trash pack (like in PvP). Deployment tactics isn't used very often in multi-target situations and this avoids having to (re)introduce a separate skill to spread DoTs
Remove Ruin2
Skill that spends 30 Faerie gauge on a small AoE shield
Some healing reworks but idk what
>WHM
Waterga/Waterja: A water AoE with no stun that later upgrades to Holy, available in the first dungeon
Cure1 upgrades to Cure2 by trait, freecure is removed
Medica1 upgrades to Medica2 by trait
Reduce the range of Medica2 and Cure3
Add an oGCD that doubles the range of Medica2 and Cure3 (and lillies?)
Extra charge for Tetragrammaton
Afflatus Rapture and Solace available by lv50
Afflatus Misery available by lv60
Skill glams so you can swap holy effects for elemental effects if you prefer the old WHM/CNJ aesthetic
>AST
It's already getting a full rework, I think it should have a more proc-based rotation and a slightly lower APM. I would achieve this by having your damage GCD proc cards rather than drawing cards manually.
Ranged auto-attack
Can hide the Yugioh holster thing
>Cure1 upgrades to Cure2 by trait, freecure is removed
please god
>AST
just revert it back to stormblood ast, divide balance's damage bonus up among all the cards and make balance a DH buff
and turn spire into an evasion or blocking buff
WHM: bring back the 1.0 system of combo/non-combo being different.
This would actually work well with the upcoming caster. It would be like a DPS Eukrasia but without even needing the extra button to activate it.
I would rather have it on WHM. Sage could have Eukrasia memes, Scholar dots, Astro cards. And WHM gets spell combos like Aero after Holy is aoe dot, Holy after Glare is single target and grants a lily. Shit like that
Funny enough that's how PVP BLM works.
>Can use Deployment Tactics to spread them on a trash pack
newbie.
Which face is objectively the cutest for female au ra?
4.
what’s up with lonely ppl posting every moronic take they can invent just to get someone, anyone to interact with their posts?
Which Job is good as-is and requires no major changes in Dawntrail?
Warrior
MNK
We all know monk will get a major rework like astro. Like in every expac!
It's really good right now and they'll surely ruin it. All it needs to be perfect is overcap chakra to 7, and maybe a way to proc 6-sided star that gives it a fast GCD
BLM
it’s easier to list the jobs that are bad:
AST
GNB
you absolute homosexual, I would very much like them to adjust the job so that I am not forced to play tokyo drift after the initial encounter
>he drifted gnashing fang and no mercy
lol
I will get 2.45 for the reverse drift and I don't give a frick about what some trannies say.
Every job should have reverse drift.
get good scrub
As someone who has only and exclusively played warrior, how the frick are you supposed to survive trash pulls as DRK? I go to press bloodwhetting and it's not there. I feel like I'm doing something wrong
TBN on cooldown and use it with something else. Oblation on top of your other mit is plenty strongy.
because the gameplay will still be ass, this game severely needs a systems overhaul to get rid of the built in delay to every action
>discuss why
>https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/9j8-rq3WhDu0OcE0LcH9UQ/
meds
I get such weird mixed signals from GW2's writing, you have stuff like in your pic but also there's this quest where you come across a tribe of fishmen who have their own customs and you and your quest giver are like "Sometimes you can't convince people, sometimes you just need to murder them all" and you go ahead and massacre the fish clan because their customs differ from yours.
*sips*
Ahhhh, Stormblood. Now that is a top notch expansion.
This but unironically
zenos wasn’t a good character in stormblood. He only became later when they used him to get rid of the cringe black rose questline and he started dropping cool lines.
I disagree but whatever
Zenos was great until he decided he wanted to become the eikon (in front of the eikon slayer). Character fricking sucked thereafter.
zenos was the best part about stormblood
Yotsyu was the most interesting character with the best theme music.
yotsyu was only cool in the .x patches
>Lyse stole our Valor!
>No she didn't!
>Zenos sucks!
>I like Zenos!
>Omega is literally a Tigole
>Mr. Happy cleared UCOB before 4.2, why haven't you?
>Where's Eureka???
>Why did Eureka fail?
>Pyros saved Eureka, get the frick in here!
>TENZEN FRICK ME TENZEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>MNKbros...
>Hey guys....what if....we actually got blue mage next expansion lol? Like imagine?
>FF11 was a better game
>Praise Tanaka
>1 IS A PRIME NUMBER
If only we knew how good we had it...
>1 IS A PRIME NUMBER
IT IS! IT IS! IT IS! IT IS! IT IS!
A prime number needs to be divisible by two numbers, 1 or itself.
1 cannot fulfil this criteria since it can only be divided by 1, itself.
is calling the game dead the only way to have FF14 threads on Ganker or what?
Yeah otherwise WoWjannies will get mad for praising anything but
How are Criterions as a healer? Is it harder than healing Extremes/Savages?
Yeah it's aids.
Do you actually have to GCD heal at some points? If so that is extremely based and makes Criterion the best content for healers in the game.
Yes, a lot. Though most of your GCD heals are actually going to be during the trash pack rooms because the bosses are almost entirely the same as their Criterion versions and you'll have them figured out by the time you're ready for Savage, but the Savage trash rooms are a completely different ball game and require A LOT more attention.
About on par, the difference is you're the only guy responsible and can't leverage any responsibility on anyone else. Barrier healers are much more favourable as a result. In Savage, you seriously need to respect the trash too.
it’s the same binary mechanics of 0 dmg or instadeath.
Yoshi needs to stop being a pussy and make cc viable in 4 man content to make it harder.
>binary mechanics of 0 dmg or instadeath
>wants cc
>either stun or instadeath.
Wow
>Esuna the CC
>Healer can rescue you
>Player CC abilities like stun, slow and sleep can be useful in return
>Range can actually have a reason to use their interrupt ability
NO ONE EXPECTS THE EORZEAN INQUISITION
Dropped the game after I cleared the first Pand tier savage, rest of the expac seemed like it was total dogshit and Dawncope doesn't seem much better
I just hope whatever Savage they release for Dawntrail that it will be fun, because EW's savage was pretty mid, and P9S-12S were just body checks and instant wipes which made it zzzz.
I wish more difficult bosses had dodging skillchecks like the first boss in Rokkon Criterion, with the lasers just randomly popping up and making it impossible for you to preposition to negate it completely. The only other boss I can remember having it is Barbariccia.
would gato sexo be up for anal though
Anal's gross and I don't get the fricking fixation people have with sticking it up the poop chute.
How should they fix Criterion rewards?
Add gear drops and weapons.
This
Make each boss drop a chest that drop a different gear piece - if you already killed and looted that boss that week you can't roll for it, but you can still roll for the bosses you haven't cleared.
>that week
Please no more lockouts, I already need 4 different gearsets and 10 different weapons each.
If you didn't have lockouts you would have autists clearing the first boss over and over and that's it. Would suck to make a PUG, clear the first boss and then have some twat leave the dungeon so they can join another party and do the same.
Simply make it so each boss drops 4 pieces so each player can get at least one piece.
Literally just make them drop Savage adjacent gear. It's been two months after the tier fricking dropped, who gives a shit if it gives people a leg up. Everyone would appreciate more ways to gear their alt jobs without taking MONTHS to do so too.
More gearpieces but as drops instead of token exchange.
New one had nice amount of furnitures and minions as drops so next one should at least has that many. More visible differences between routes would be nice imo, some routes look same but different but still same.
Ngl I liked both Criterion so far but new one is better than the first one.
655 gear
twines shines and brines
weekly lockout
difficulty should be a little bit easier than currently but still harder than extremes
Tome augments is an easy answer. By the time it releases, good raiders have already cleared savage and it provides an extra avenue for catch-up gear. Beyond that, I dunno, but at least something more than materia.
Why didnt they just make relic weapon steps to be linked with criterion exploration is the most confusing thing to me
It solves the problems with the nonexistent relic steps and no incentives to do criterion
If they decide not to do exploratory content then they should port the exploratory item/buff system into criterion dungeons.
it has been like 2 years i last played, so i have not played endwalker:
-endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
-dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
-have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
-are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Yes
Probably
No
No, everything is basically just as simplified as it was in ShB
well i think it is only matter of time when i play endwalker, so i can make my own opinion. i think biggest fear i have is that how the frick can i learn to play the game again, i don't remember shit. all those rotations and binds are just gone. i don't even remember the details of the story.
>-endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
It's got pacing issues, but the reasons people shit on it hardest is actually a terribly subjective matter that's been argued in circles about by a group of autists who act like the game raped them irl. Saying much more would be too much spoiler. Also the patches do pretty much suck, 6.1 was good then it fell off a cliff. You might still like them. Depends on how much do you enjoy unironic edgelords with memory issues.
>-dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
People are hating it?
>-have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
Nah not really "major". They added Island Sanctuary for a subpar farming sim and Variant Dungeons which were content that died almost immediately because they forgot to make the rewards enticing and worth grinding for. EW MSQ introduced stuff like stealth following quests which were quickly discarded because no one fricking liked them and the first trial with NPC Trust, but that was just a one off.
>-are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Not really, they're simplifying jobs one at a time to make space for future abilities.
No
No
No
No
Half the posters in these threads are either chatbots running on severely outdated software, or brown people who don’t actually play the game. (Current chatbots do a much better version of simulating humanity).
>endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
It's another expansion that tried to be two expansions at once and the story suffered heavily for it. Most people don't try to discuss the story anymore since it has devolved into autist witchhunting whether you're for or against it.
>dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
It's a first fantfgest trailer, everything is speculation at this point so there is nothing really to say. Thus hate.
>have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
Reaper is edgy scythe demon class. It's fun. Sage is laser shield healer. It's boring.
>are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Jobs get simplified every expac, EW was no exception. For example, blm got a bunch of QoL that made it even easier to keep your rotation rolling.
>endwalker seems cool, but i see a lot of hate for it. is it bad?
The main expac is a clusterfrick of trying to resolve plot lines while still adding new ones. Still, with so much shit going on there were a lot less dull moments than ARR and Stormblood. The post expac content otoh is being drip-fed to us and it feels like a filler arc. Probably way better if you're marathoning through it instead of getting the 2 hours of story every 4 months. Variant dungeons are a nice change of pace, Island Sanctuary is more boring gathering slave labor, the Pandemonium raids were fun and it was nice to have a traditional JRPG villain that just wanted to play God for once but as a fan of FFII's Pande it was disappointing that it was only similar in name, and the music for the 24-man raids absolutely slaps this time around. Overall I still like EW, just think some of the shit with the plot ranged from rushed to pants-on-head moronic.
>dawntrail trailer was nice. are people hating it because endwalker sucks?
With the post-EW content basically being filler, and the WoL going on "vacation" I think people are afraid of more filler. I'm so totally down for episodic adventuring scenarios where we just try to take a dragon's treasure or some shit I am fricking exhausted of apocalyptic bullshit. They can build back up to that shit again, but let me explore and find loot for now.
>have there been any new major gameplay features/jobs?
See aforementioned Variant/Criterion dungeons and Island Sanctuary.
>are the rotations getting out of hand? for example blm already had like 7 mechanics and resources and it seems they added more
Nah, it's not an issue.
I just don't understand why they can't make Savage gear more interesting. Would adding set bonuses be that much effort?
Yeah, it would?
What would you even be able to do as set bonuses that doesn't completely frick up the balancing of all content?
Tell us some non-boring, meaningful set bonuses that wouldn't frick up the game balance.
What do you want from the set bonuses? You can't have job specific bonuses that change how you play, because the jobs are designed fundamentally to be played a single way. If it's just passive damage increase, then what's the point?
>You can't have job specific bonuses that change how you play
You can't even do that even if you wanted to, because all Jobs share gear with at least one other job (except Ninja but that is about to change)
Of course you can
>If equipped on SAM, do X
>If equipped on MNK do Y
The only viable place to stick a bonus would be on the weapon or artefact gear but unless you're going all out by genuinely exploring horizontal progression options what's the fricking point. I don't feel like horizontal gear would be interesting within the framework of this game unless they specifically start tailoring the game around it. And who knows, maybe they will. Level 100 feels like a good point to stop levelling in general.
>Game is sterile as frick already
>People still complain about the viability of some jobs
>wants to add even more variables
It'll never happen, the dev team obviously doesn't have the talent or time to design shit that isn't overly curated
🙁
She killed gajillions.
She loved us the most.
I love her so much bros...why is she stuck being deader than dead in this shitgame ? Frick...
She deserved to die for what she pulled
about the only halfway decent thing they actually did with her character is her accepting judgement in that way
>trancer post
>Don't act like you're my friend!!!!!!!
FF XI was better, no cap
IS THAT ANOTHER FUJO EXPAC WITH ONLY TOKEN BARE MINIMUM FEMALE CHARACTERS!????? IM SO EXCITED
not
Fujokawa is back on it again, what do you think ? YOU VILL TAKE THE FUJOSHIT AND VE HABBY.
Fujokawa wrote venat, with her gone she will write a new mommy goddess to worship aka the gold girl in Amano's art
its funny, i play only ff games where you can play as traditional black mage. ffxiv has it so i love it.
if ffxvi had parties where you can have a black mage i would have sucked squares wiener and bought ps5. but for now i don't give a shit.
>traditional BLM
>XIV
moron
FFXIV is closer to a traditional FF Black Mage than whatever schizoshit they did in XI.
You also forgot the art where Black Mages in XI are completely unwanted other than BLM only burn parties.
yeah just make every job identical and now everyone is wanted for everything
>ffxi blm
Ah yes
Check the monster's weakness, check the day, check the weather, check the skillchain, then cast thunder iv anyway
>BLM doing any crowd control at all
Man this is one old image
now compare encounters
SUP b***h
Left was never good
?
If we're talking chad MMO mages.
>FFXI BLM
ah yes, thunder mage.
Fricking moron
xigays are starting to look like theyve played less ff games than xivgays
When will free stormblood be available
New trancer kino just dropped
Not watching it.
Now walk.
Stop giving them (You)s
No thanks, I'm so tired of both zodiarktrancers and venathralls that I'd legit nuke both with no survivors. Pure fricking cancer, I hope none of this shit will be ever mentioned again.
>trancers need hours long walls of text to state Venat bad
lmao, you all need to walk.
Zodiark Trance is old news.
Athena Trance where you beat with your dick what Lahabrea couldn't is the new meta.
Athena Trance simply doesn't work. Both trancers and venatgays want to frick her.
>fricking Lahabrea's filthy seconds
Maybe trancers are into that but Venat chads definitely not.
why are there so many players who couldn't walk?
This game has an ample abundance of homosexuals, trannies and wom$n. Simple as.
These homosexuals are STILL shitting out videos? The only people that actually watch them are their own discord members. They also delete contrarian comments and criticism so I didn't bother with them after the first video.
They are not interested in an honest debate they just want to seethe about their headcanon not being reality.
Not watching your cringe cope.
Venat did nothing wrong.
>wanted her children to walk, effectively wanting them to be able cope with the inevitable tragedies of life and be able to keep going instead of constantly pining for what came before and to the future
>this makes her the villain to basement dwellers
poetry
I miss her so so much bros...Why didn't we protect her smile ?
Reminder that they're censoring comments that disagree with them, while using their discord to artificially boost views/likes
https://imgur.com/a/c2MExTU
Theres a chad in there dropping redpills in the comments as we speak, calling out their unamerican behavior.
>Exploratory gameplay is the best
>Unluck Eureka and Bozja
>Both are completely fricking dead
shits not the best if you're a new player
as opposed to criterion which is already dead ON CONTENT let alone 2 expacs later
Everyone who played Criterion can tell you it's well designed and fun content, the problem is that Square sucks at incentive structures.
it's the same as all of the other XIV kuso
>Same linear dungeon design
>But mobs hit harder and bosses have cancer savage mechanics
no
it’s not that they suck at rewards, it’s that it’s literally by design to have shit rewards. the average ffxiv tard constantly complains about ‘being forced to do’ xyz content for xyz rewards. if you put in a really desirable reward behind some piece of content, then all the limsa afkers will crawl out if the woodwork complaining about how they don’t like being forced to do criterion or something to get the reward
in a game with a completely different design philosophy, the players would view rewards as stepping stones to each other. like in runescape, doing a quest or minigame or activity to unlock new teleports, better places to level or make money, unlock special equipment that have a lot of general utility and/or can be taken into other activities to give yourself an advantage are all seen as desirable. in ffxiv, you cannot create such incentive structures because people already riot about “having to do” manderville or ivalice for relics
XIVgays don't want to play the game. They want to dress up and ERP. They don't want their costume pieces gated behind a stupid game they might have to take a hand off their dick to play.
Runescape's also structured much more differently with a much more horizontally inclined gearing and progression structure where even mid level stuff is relevant in high end content. It's not like XIV where you can't get away with wearing level 70 gear and expect to do the latest shit.
The "stepping stones" aren't so much nice things you can unlock to increase your range of options or have a sense of better QoL but largely things you need to do in order to get anything done at all. It's not really a surprise that a chunk of players would conflate it with tedium.
Oh yeah, and Runescape's gear isn't mostly untradeable so you're not locked into doing specific content to get what you want unless you're playing an Ironman.
t. never actually played it
There's no groups, or activity going on in either Eureka or Bozja. Yes, they can be played solo but there's nobody else if you're trying to clear bosses so it just becomes mindless grinding mobs to unlock the next area. I like it more than Island Sanctuary, but with no other players its just like grinding in a dead game mode for no reason.
What the frick are you talking about? What server? Are you trying to do it on dead hours? On EU it's still very busy.
Tried Crystal and Primal at 7-9pm EST, shits always dead
I literally did CLL and DR yesterday, on primal, something like 20+ in CLL and the bozja instance was at 40+
I don't know what to say, whenever I go in its either dead or there's a party in one of the zones further in
Are you playing on dynamis or something, bozja is giga alive
Goodbye, Crystal Tower spammers! You will do Orbonne and Nier and you will like it!
Dawnrail trailer is getting hate because it focused on the same old characters we're tired of, in the same jungle environments we had in 2.0, and the deliberately hid anything potentially interesting about the enemies faced of new class gimmick. It's a company convinced that its memes are enough to sell more product.
Game is never going to reach the late-ShB, early EW peak again.
Anon it's a teaser trailer. Showing Mamool Ja, Erenville, and what's probably the first area of the new content is more than even expected.
yeah nothing gets me excited like some throwaway fujoshit npc from endwalker
>Fujo
He's specifically going back to the New World so he can breed fat assed amazonian bunnies.
so he's shipshit then, wow so much better
There are no vieras on the new world, he's obviously ivalice bait.
He was never for (you) moron
I knew EW was shit when it had an entire arc devoted to fujo pandering time travel
I can't wait for them to find an excuse for Emet to show up for 5 minutes or some shit.
Let's play a game, guess the gender and race guys!
female lalafell
Female Au Ra
Male Xaela
winrar
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/44792519/
They just can't help themselves.
DING DING DING DING DING
>u are trolling me
>oh yeah totally
was Athena the progenitor of the female Middie?
Post Gaia's feet please
So last zone of the new expansion is going to be literally El Dorado or what
Probably. They've already hyped up a golden city.
Clearly, we are going to reach El Dorado by level 95.
>MNK mains will punch final (MSQ) dungeon's boss and toss them to a giant golden bell
Soon bros...
Keep the faith. We got 2 more fanfests. They'd be complete idiots to make them like ffx ronsos.
Never happening, bro.
You are not getting
>hot bodies
You will have either Femroe reskins, or the Hunch
>long full manes
You already know SE refuses to give players nice hair, much less long hair because of all the complaints about clipping with the short styles they already have. And clipping will NOT be fixed.
>cute animal faces
You will either get the Hrothgar abominations you already have, or Miqote with sideburns (if you're lucky)
No
I will keep the faith, so that one day, we will get sexy hot-bodied lion babes, we will...we will...
Delusional.
Blue Michael Cera
bro that's not even the Michael Cera face
If they're going to be femroes with fricking whiskers my sides will leave the orbit.
Can't believe they never made that into a mount.
Don't worry, they keep it for the cashshop for when they'll need more $$$ for flopspoken 2
>Only piece of porn is her mounting a femboy
It's good, but sorely lacking
>everyone suddenly has to act moronic just so put her over
Quite possibly the worst character they ever added. What the FRICK was Matsuno thinking?
>What the FRICK was Matsuno thinking?
>TWF no Gyaru bunny GF
Matsuno only reads what he writes. Its not his fault bozja was completely out of place and contradictory with the rest of the story.
Missy Ja was based, frick furBlack folk and frick bozja
See the male Hrothgar "upgrade" and fall into despair.
There's still some hopium.
#1 Yoshi himself has said several times that hrothgar are deliberately intended to be distinct from existing races. And male hrothgar achieved that tbh. He even elaborated that they're not concerned with making a race that the majority would play, but rather, and he was very specific here, he wanted to make a race for the people that wanted it.
#2 Concept art for male hrothgar was notably rejected because it looked too similar to miqo'te/human. Evidently it is something they want to avoid. See point #1.
#3 We know for a fact that the team regularly observe fanworks and the like, there's no god damn way the popular hrothgal art from that korean dude hasn't passed over their desk at some point, let alone the piles of similar hrothgal art with virtually none of it resembling what we fear most.
#4 People point to that mural in Bozja but frankly if I had a nickel for every time CB3 deviated from their own art or designs in-game or as concept art I'd have ten dollars.
Prepare for the worst, but there's hope yet.
>Yoshi himself has said several times that hrothgar are deliberately intended to be distinct from existing races.
Yoshi has said a lot of things, anon.
Sure, but this was regarding the race as a whole. prior to male hrothgar being added, and he was dead on in the end. They could use more faces though.
If Hrothgals have a similar design ethos behind them I'm not that worried.
Why the frick are you on consoles the game can run on a toaster PC at this point.
You have no power here. /hmofa/ggots run this board.
BELIEVE IN THE DREAM
Is BLU worth to farm HW FATEs for the ShB relics?
I feel like everything is immune to the cool stuff and I'm not really sure if just going, say, WHM is gonna be easier and slightly faster
Make your Scion team RIGHT NOW.
Only 4 Scions allowed.
Thancred, Urianger, Y'shtola, Estinien.
only correct answer
Competent homies
Estinien, Y'shtola, Lyse, Zenos.
This anon knows
Most based team ever, sadly we can't have that ever again.
Hoary Boulder
Urianger
Alianne (I think she's the adventurer with her dad)
Krile
Thancred, Urianger, Estinien, Ardbert
Esteem, Myste, Fray, Ardbert
Schizo team.
Drk is the most fujoshitted job
>WoL arrives to the New World alone
Thancred, Urianger, Y'shtola
dawntrail more like floptrail. the viewers and engangment numbers are down like 40% compared to endwalker. truly its over.
Female Hrothgar (Official Design, Final Fantasy X, 2001)
Nuvy >>> Irga
>implying
Male hrothgars look better with straight backs
The last we heard of femHroths was February 2022 when Yoshida said they'd narrowed down designs to two concepts and were yet to make a final choice between them
How the frick did Yoshi-P get DQX so right and FFXIV so wrong?
Westwolves bros... what happened?
I mean, yeah we're going west. But at what cost? Dawntrail is such a lame name and most people are already annoying me by saying Dawn"trial"
the localizer homosexuals wanted to avoid the obvious translation of "Golden Dawn" for..... reasons.
Dawn is a mistake regardless. 7.0 is supposed to be the day expansion just like HW. EW was dawn.
JP title is Gilded Legacy, which is far better.
So why not just do a 1:1 translation ?
You buy a PC and stop playing on the platform that gives the dev excuses to hold the game back.
>yoshi-p posts new requires specs for 7.0 at Fan Fest
>"But don't worry, PS4 is still supported."
It was PC holding the game back for years.
>required specs
Bro, you can be under those specs and the game will run fine and look better than it does on PS4, you can even throw reshade at it.
yet ps4 is still supported for Dawntrail. Yet the PC requirements are now higher than before. Therefore, ps4 has never held the game back. pc did. He said more objects will be on screen in Dawntrail, which was not possible with the old requirements.
>ps4 has never held the game back
Don't be a moron, the PS4 runs a Jaguar APU. At that's almost a decade old and it was AMD's low-power housefire.
FFXIV is a PS3 game. Always has been. Always will be. Had FFXIV been made on a PS4 engine, it would look vastly superior to the current game in every conceivable way. It's the ancient PS3 engine holding it back. You can't deny the jump in graphics and possibilities between the two systems.
>PS3 engine
You mean heavily modded crystal tools. At this point I think they should consider moving the game over to Luminous Engine just so they don't have to deal with that shit.
If it were possible to move engines they would have done it a long time ago. They would probably have to skip an entire expansion worth of content to make that happen, which would make the subs disappear
>moving the game over to the whole new engine
these Black folk cannot make viera hats for two addons now, fix the housing furniture to allow glamour dressers placed as interior objects, and stopping the game from kicking you out every time you log off
this is not happening
I think it's funny that all those issues are resolved by installing mods, maybe they should just release the source code for the game and have the modders deal with everything lol
XIV 2.0 was (is) luminous already, actually.
Then how the frick it looks so bad and how come it has less graphical features than other luminous games ? You need reshade just to make it not look like a bland mess.
>He thinks an engine just magically poofs all the assets and shaders into existence without consideration of the target platform.
Because XIV was still developed primarily as a PS3 game.
It's hilarious how PC Mustard Race users always forget that not every PC user has a the most up-to-date high-end system. Yoshi-P announcing the new requirements was hilarious, when all the PC gays expected PS4 to be shut down and instead it's PC gays getting the boot.
The new pc specs aren't high at all.
yet the requirements were increased, confirming it was not ps4 holding the game back, but pc. Now that the requirements are increased, they can put more objects on screen and use better graphics.
they mentioned no such thing, I watched the entire presentation
because they dropped PS3 support, its still PS4 holding everything back
If that were true, why did nothing change after PS3 support ended (except for the zones being bigger)? Why does the game still look and feel like a low-end PS3 game? You cannot possibly think that the PS4 isn't capable of far superior graphics? Have you seen shit like Uncharted 4 with its massive high-fidelity levels, without any loading screens?
it looks like a ps3 game because most of the textures are dogshit and 90% of the shaders are turned off. things that require development to change and don't just magically improve automatically when you stop supporting 15 year old hardware configurations. are you moronic?
Correct. Meaning PS4 is not holding it back. Just it being a PS3 engine + devs being lazy. Are you moronic?
the ps4 is holding it back the same way the ps3 was its just capable of looking better than a ps3 was. you have downs syndrome or something right?
So why did the game not start looking better and get huge improvements after PS3 support stopped in 2017? If PS4 is holding the game back, where are all the improvements over the PS3 version?
Never said any of that.
>it being a PS3 engine
So what does this statement mean?
I just tried to communicate the game was made to run on a ps3 and ps3 specs. Not modern day specs, or even ps4 specs, which are far higher than ps3 specs
Right and that has little to do with the engine. When they port over the gane to a lower powered console they disable specific effects and lower texture and render resolution to get it to run smoothly. The game being ported to a PS3 says nothing about the maximum quality the engine can do (other than technologies that weren't out at the time being less likely to be integrated). The switch off of PS3 offloaded the dev requirement to have the PS3 textures and world design limitations, it's not a switch flip to magically make the non-PS3 textures better. That takes artists actually doing that work.
>where are all the improvements over the PS3 version?
Bigger zones that aren’t just a collection of flying islands and enough memory to show MP on the party list
>where are all the improvements over the PS3 version?
The UI has improved leaps and bounds.
>he thinks every port of the game has a different engine
I hope your handler is there today because you seem like the type that would swallow your tongue if left to their own devices.
I dont think the min requirements were increased.
Yes they were, did you miss the Dawntrial keynote and Live Letter?
PS4 version will obviously be limited, pretty sure they mentioned lower specs and performance and may get a completely neutered version of the graphics update, if they get it at all.
>It's hilarious how PC Mustard Race users always forget that not every PC user has a the most up-to-date high-end system.
You don't need those.
>it's PC gays getting the boot.
We aren't.
If someone thinks whatever le epic grafix updates will make the game unplayable or run like shit on their current machine, just get reshade and run a couple of the more taxing presets and see how it runs.
The PC recommended specs are like 10 year old hardware dude
They're never gonna make an MMO actually hardware intensive
I won't pay money to buy a PC when it has no exclusives to offer...
>when it has no exclusives to offer
Mods are exclusive.
>No exclusives
except mods which fix the issues you have with the game
>no one noticed a giant crack in the ocean between southern and northern not-Muricas
>I notice something
>That means nobody noticed it
Every single femhroth gay is going to fanta back to their previous race a quarter through the expansion.
>paying for fanta
>not using penumbra and glamourer
XIV sisters...not like this
I'm going to turn both of my retainers into femhroths and model them in bikini's and lewd outfits
I assume there are no news regarding Viera and Hrothgar hats... even in 7.0 we won't be satisfied...
stop playing limited races
or just use mods
>Mods
how? t.Playstation player...
With a real platform. Get off the Sonybox.
stop playing MMOs on console you fricking moron
controller playstyle (the objective best way to play xiv) still works on pc, anon
it's time to leave the console behind
they just assume all viera are going to be modding in their futa wieners anyway, they can handle their own hats.
At this point I just accept that I have to use the mod, it is pretty comprehensive and good at least. And... I'm fairly sure 99% of people playing hroth or viera have it anyway.
Threadly reminder BLU will be made whole in 7.0
it is kinda scary to think that this is plausible
>two new jobs
>new
Keep huffing that copium.
>a job opened up to all content for the first time isn't new
>redesigns never happen and the devs never treat them as new jobs. It's not like advertised EW in dlls and fanfests as summoner redesign being a functionally new job
Let me guess. PNT cope? YWNBAP
>Moonflute -> Primal Spam is such fun gameplay
BLU is beloved for its lore and flavor. Not it's playstyle. You will throw the fish in lvl 100 content and you will be happy.
>the mag dps is actually blu but no fun edition
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
>all of this nonsense while ignoring the obvious hint
the shirt is obviously a hint for _Ninja_, use your fricking heads morons
Heard you like Azurite?
>TEENAGE
>MUTANT
>T
>M
TIME MAGE CONFIRMED
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
>Torch
>Machina
>Now
>To save your soul, Praise Be To Yevon
Blitzballer confirmed
>Martyn (forma de not jobber) on the MSQ.
The fricker killed extreme primals and is a omniDoM.
He already mogs half of the scions.
why can't the BLU trainer be that Middie used for the BLU class artwork?
>Scions getting their shit slapped by AncientDoom(TM)
>"WoL, leave this to me"
>Hits you with Malediction of Water, forcibly moving you to the next area
>"This is my FINAL STING!!!!"
The Scions really fricking need to learn how to channel the power of slapstick comedy. Endsinger wouldn't have been able to even scratch them if we could have Thancred, Estinien and Alisaie go full Godbert while Y'shtola, Urianger, G'raha and Alphinaud went full Martyn.
Tataru managed to tap into her inner clown for 2 seconds in ARR and she created an immortal carbuncle.
I wonder why people think the new classes aren't corsair for physical melee DPS and rune knight for magical ranged DPS.
They're not gonna add 2 sword jobs you dipshit.
>They're not adding 2 swords jobs
>What is RDM and SAM
HAHAHA, IT'S SWORD AUTISM TIME, I WILL MAIN ALL THE SWORD JOBS AND BE HAPPY.
>won't be two short jobs
>Meanwhile Stormblood gave us sword melee dps and sword caster dps
I just want you to know there's a history of releasing two sword jobs in the same expac
because whatever the magic dps is is gonna be kriles new job and i highly doubt they would make her a rune knight
because Pictomancers only see one connection with the TMNT shirt
It's Corsair for Scouting and either Pictomancer of Green Mage for Casting.
Keep in mind that whatever the Casting job is, Krile will be switching to it.
cuz krile's gonna paint us a better future
No Blitzball in the FFX expansion.
*at the Gold Saucer
Blitzer will be the melee job.
I think it'd be funny if that guy was just regular old wakka and it's never acknowledged why he's there
He's in the New World as a Yevon Missionary
let's not tell him about the ironworks
The what now?
Yoshi-P strictly said no Blitzball in remaining 6.X Gold Saucer content. Said nothing about it for 7.X They'll never do it though because their shitfrick engine couldn't handle real-time aiming with free Z-axis movement
>couldn't handle real-time aiming with free Z-axis movement
Anon that's not Blitzball.
As soon as I saw more than like two Scions I kind of stopped caring
So, full trailer when?
third fanfest, newbie-kun
What will they show on london one
extended teaser and a job reveal
final fanfest is full trailer, second job reveal and potential race reveal, all cards on the table
First job reveal
Slightly different trailer.
More details on content
Femhroth reveal (cope)
Turn that cope into hope
Bunboys were revealed in the digital fanfest, so I assume femhroths will be revealed in Tokyo
Extended trailer (showing off the character with the first new job)
Trailer and Info on the first new Job (whatever the shirt is teasing)
Raid Details
Zone Previews w/ Videos
Major character details and maybe one of the big bosses
Does anyone else turn off glare in the graphics settings? I went into the fookin' saucer with it on and nearly went fricking blind, it's some of the bloomiest bloom I'd ever seen and I survived the fricking 360 era of vidya.
Are we going to be stuck with shitty role quests again over actual job quests?
Poor Arya is forever stuck in Mor Dhona... I want to go on new adventures with her...
Sidequest limbo is the dumbest thing.
>Class NPCs are unusable, inclusing Y'shtola's sister and FRICKING NYM (but Estinien had no issue becoming a scion because he is fujobait)
>We are going to resolve the void in the blandest way possible because we can't use Mhach, Diabolos, or the gang from the first.
>Ryne is stuck because of Eden
>No Ivalice or Ilsabard expansion because of the Ivalice content, forget about Lyon or Pagaga. too.
Just force people to do a few quests more or introduce them anyways, they did that with Alisaie and Fujocat anyways.
Yeah dude sidequest limbo when the frick are we going to see more graha
>Class NPCs are unusable
bunch of them appeared during the Garlemard expedition
>WHM shota
>DRG Teacher
>MCH guy
>PGL lala
>characters so bland he even forgots their names and resorts to calling them shota, teach, guy and lala
the claim was that they're not used, not that they're memorable
i dont even remember the name of the Eozera leaders
Dumb part is that they picked the npcs that would have the least to bring to the story.
>Contingent that has to accompany the Scions into Garlemald to help the survivors and stop Zenos.
>Don't bring Radovan to show that he's able to put Bozja behind and help people in need.
>Don't bring Widargelt to see him help the people that conquered his homeland.
>Don't bring Y'mhitra to see her team up with her sister and show her worry when she gets a headache.
>Don't bring X'rhun to see him team up with his student.
>Don't bring basically anyone that actually had something to do with the plot at hand, just characters who are completely neutral to it.
Some anon said operations like that do tend to bring people who wouldn't be too involved with the conflict and could bring over grudges, but then I realized we did bring fricking Rostik and several other bozjans so that excuse doesn't even work. And still good because Rostik at least gets to team up with Thancred, but at the same time bad because he also doesn't say a single goddamn thing the entire time.
>all that coping over yoshi-p announcing new pc specs
>no no i swear it totally doesn't matter that we need higher specs now really, yoshi-p was only announcing it as a joke, nothing will be different going forward
Anyone worried about the update should just calm down and wait for the Benchmark to see where they stand.
You can tinker with settings in those right? I can't remember as I haven't messed with one lately.
Also remember we have at least a year so we have a LONG way to go before it's even a concern. Yoshida qualifying "summer 2024" instantly made me suspect it's going to be late summer, not early or middle.
The new minimum specs are just the current recommended specs. All that's changed is the minimum required GPU has gone from one that's over 10 years old to one that's... 8 years old. Whoa... so many PC users are gonna feel this one.
I might because even old GPUs are still overpriced. It's getting better at least. I've been looking at a 1060 and wondering if that would be good enough. Gotta make due with what I can get so I'm not after 600 fps/4k I just want it to be playable kek.
GPU prices are good now compared to what they've been for the past 3-4 years. I'm in an euro shithole with frickhuge VAT and import taxes and you can get a 6700XT for a bit under $400, a 6650XT for around $300 and a 6600 for about $250. Unless you're a literal NEET who has no income there are no excuses not to FRICKING DAB on those console peasants with the latest tech.
I don't wanna get political but the Covid shit killed my source of income so times are tough. Anyway I have a year so I should be okay, just wondering really.
That's understandable. Either way, I don't think anyone should worry about the specs, all they're doing is a basic reshade filter and some upscaled textures which are not really taxing on your system.
I wish they had shown more info on their requirements graphic. I assume those specs are aiming for 60FPS and the resolutions shown but they didn't go into too much detail about it. I hope they are courteous enough to release the benchmark with ample time for people to see where they stand and prepare.
I mean look, if the game will continue to run on a PS4 you don't have to worry about think. A PS4 has a undervolted underclocked 10 years old AMD APU running on 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM, if your system is better than that you're good. And most likely it is better than that.
I'm coping with the knowledge that Japanese devs tend to list wild requirements on their games and they aren't to be trusted but I'm sure I'll be alright.
>See Yoship wearing TMNT
>TMNT stands for
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
>Teenage
>Get hyped because we'll see Ryne and Gaia
again in 7.0
I'd really like the one on the left with the wild messy style but there's no way they'd ever do that kind of hair so we're fricked. The middle one works with it as the "cuter" one kind of how one of the bunny faces is the young one.
Such a shame they're stuck on such a dogshit game.
Get that thing away from me right now, uncanny valley shit
Honestly my biggest point will be the face. I want a proper muzzle not a shitty cat nose on a human face. I want hrothgar but female not a different species, it was bad enough with au'ra.
Same
the final zone will be Etheirys' version of Canada, isn't it?
>10 years later and STILL feeling the PS3 downgrade
lmao
damn can't lala close their fricking mouth instead of running around like a moron with their mouth gaping open?
>PS3 downgrade
1.0 was also on PS3 though?
It wasn't.
God 1.xx had such good fricking atmosphere and it all got tossed aside so this game could become a refugee camp for WoWgays
1.x also ran like absolute dogshit and would implode in on itself.
I did Rivenroad (Hard) on a fricking laptop. It was fine. 1.0 was future proofed
Don't care. It looked better, played better and the story/setting wasn't written by stinky otaku. FFXI fans were robbed and SE handed their sequel over to the worst MMO fans out there.
To the wowfugees:
What class did you main in WoW and what Job do you main in XIV?
Death Knight
Dark Knight
>What class did you main in WoW
Paladin
>what Job do you main in XIV?
Paladin
Paladin lyfe is best life.
Same
I know it sucks for soloing but I legit cannot do MSQ as any other class, it feels right. And we get the best drip in almost every expansion.
Paladin is just the best de facto protagonist class, frankly.
>sucks for soloing
What are you talking about? DPS can die to mechanics if you're bad and healers are fricking boring to play. Tanks are the most reliable soloers. I guess if you mean that it's more boring because you can just tank mechanics then yeah, DPS are better
warrior
whm in terms of doing hard content, but I end up daily playing war most often simply because i like getting paid and going to the front of the line.
I played paladin and I don’t main anything because thank frick you can switch jobs, if only at EW. At max I’ll probably play SAM or RPR
not a wowfugee i'm just addicted to mmos
>wow
brewmaster and windwalker monk
>xiv
war
>WoW
Mage, if it was a tier when mages were bad, I would be the one mage in my guild. I was the only dedicated mage main and any other mages were multiclassers who would play it in tiers it was really good like Ny'alotha.
>XIV
Everything, I just flex to what my group needs. I play WAR right now though.
>Worlo
Druid
>OG
WAR and SCH mainly.
I only played druid because it had access to all roles.
Hunter
Bard
mage, warrior
blm, nin
wow? im a runescape refugee taking a small break from osrs and rs3 until the newest skill comes out.
wow they're going to make every class even more braindead just like they did in EW
>Arthars fanboyins and having an emotional moment meeting YoshiP
Heh, pretty nice to see him being overwhelming meeting the big guy.
Yeah I liked that.
>my favorite ship hasn't been on screen together probably since 1 point fricking 0 that I can remember
I just want to have fun on Scholar again, man.
What do YOU want to see from your favorite jobs at level 100?
one more stack of Spineshatter Dive, 60sec cooldown on Dragonfire Dive
another use for beastguage
All tanks will forever stay in the cuckshed of static as frick and boring rotations. If you'd have to pay attention to what you're doing, you might forget to use defensives and wipe the group
Cleric Stance
I want an even BIGGER shield, and a Sword falling from the Heaven's to pierce my enemies.
ShB relic glow is truly the best in game
lookin zesty
Pally's will get smaller shields and even smaller swords
I hope not, I don't want buckler shields, I want Tower shields, huge massive frick off shields that people see and want to stand behind.
there used to be 3 different types of shields in ARR, Tower (high defense but low block rate) Standard (50/50 defense and block rate) and Bucklers, low defense but high block rate) this was naturally cut so all shields are just regular
and you still won't get tower shields, enjoy your bucklers and pig stickers
Skill and Spell speed stats merged and buffed.
Storm's eye gives 20% haste instead of 10% damage, I miss old blood weapon
DRK has something to press outside the one minute bust.
Two charges on GNB combo and blasting zone, with no mercy redesigned
>Wanting the return of the 0 DPS healers.
I like being able to do my roulettes as a tank or DPS and no having them taking 10 minutes more.
I like being able to do content on healer and press more than 1 button
With CS you will press ZERO buttons, my dude.
Demi Alexander
an execute (like wow) ability to piss away all my extra rage at the end of a fight.
OR
the ability to turn off the rage super saiyan effect. It looks like crap. I'd like a better "spell effects: lite" in general so you don't have to choose between an EDM concert or a few boring puddles as spell effects.
total skills purge and consolidation
i only have 10 fingers for frick sake
how many buttons do you think should be the maximum for each class, 5 or 6? or would that be too much?
rework every job with the same design philosophy they used for pvp but in pve form, then build from there.
i really don't know hoe they think they can update the game for another decade when i alredy have 3-4 full hotbars already bound
controllers need a button you press with your penis
where do you gays even come from and what job do you play where you feel like theres too many buttons.
show me your SAM hotbars and tell me it's not bloated
sam has a lot of buttons, so does drk.
WAR feels perfect. WHM could have 1-2 more without any stress.
>Elusive Jump is actually a jump and can clear gaps similar to shikuchi and thunder clap. Instead of chucking you down into the abyss
>More jumps
>A jump exclusive made for gap closing
>No longer a buff prostitute. (Why the frick is a job that lore wise only has about a dozen or so members the fricking buff prostitute? Meanwhile SAM has an entire organisation, but they're the selfish DPS? So fricking moronic).
>Animation upgrade for the first two basic combo buttons
>Blood of the Dragon enhances all your abilities and changes the animation for some of them too
If I had to make one major change though, I'd want Blood of the Dragon to be something of a toggleable ability that acts similar to blood for blood.
DRGs are buffchads because their very presence makes everyone fight harder because they want to look good in front of the fat dicked DRGchad
>pictured, a SAM kneeling before a DRG
>SAM ends up dealing more damage anyway
Yeah, that's a cuck cope bro. Frick everyone else, I shouldn't be some buff b***h, leave that shit to physical range
SAM's don't inspire anyone, they just exist and make no notable mark on the world, DRG's inspire their comrades and are beloved by all and it shows in their skills
this is canon
SAMs a literally peace-keepers in Kugane and DRGs are out of a job after HW. Stop the cope bro.
>DRGs won so hard they put themselves out of the job, made peace with their former enemy and now have the power to fight with the power of dragons
>SAMs are still just fricking around accomplishing nothing
>DRGs lost their entire purpose
>SAMs still have a purpose
You can try to spin this however you want, but DRG always come out on the bottom.
no clue, i feel like the jobs are already full to the brim and have no space for more
Legit sad they didn't stop at level 99 and then be creative with some other form of progression for the next expansions.
The caster job will be Geomancer, and before you come at me with your gay "there were Geomancers in AST story line, they're just weeb Conjurors" remember AST were in ARR, and they're nothing like the playable AST
It won't be Geomancer because it would be dumb to focus on some Hingashi discipline when the entire focus of the expansion is a whole new continent.
it will be Geomancer because Tugal is nature unbridled, what better place to commune with nature (not the elementals) than a place where they're all present and unrestrained
It will be Pictomancer and Krile will be the poster character for it.
got any evidence to support that? Just the Fathers of the Renaissance angle?
>got any evidence to support that?
The turtles are named after artists, it's going to be pictomancer.
The turtles are green, its going to be Green Mage
The turtles represent the elements water, fire, earth, and grape its going to be Geomancer
TMNT, TM, its Time Mage
>Master Splinter
Burmecians confirmed
The turtles are taught by their master a beast, its Beastmaster the trailer was showing off the caster Rune Knight
We've got Ninja and Sam already, so it'll be a class with the Polearm or nunchakus or a grappling hook of some kind.
Or it could be a class that is able to swap between each weapon. Who fricking knows?
GEO never ever
Play XI
the only game that does it justice
Geomancers are at their best in FFT
>Shirt or Pants
>Magic that costs nothing
>Can inflict status aliments
>Has best Support ability Attack Up
>Best equipment options
FF11 Geomancer is just some Shinto priest
>make a simple joke
>person breaks down
lol this fricking community
I just took a shit and ate some pizza, I'm going to have a wank then play some ff14.
Nice context idiot
no context needed
the ffxiv community is beyond sensitive
i remember people going apeshit about spoilers over people wearing the robes in major hubs
>PS3 MMO with a shit engine and bad looking meshes/models
>Boring as frick MSQ and non-existent leveling experience
>Insufferable playerbase of troons and autists
take your pick
Venat is the ultimate red pill. Only weak men can't walk.
I can teleport
>Ascians see the sundered as shallow broken husks
>Venat loves the Sundered with all her heart because she believes they are perfect in their imperfection and that beauty makes them special in a way that the Ancients never could be
>in a way that the Ancients never could be
This is a total bullshit and you know it.
The Ancients reaction to the first tragedy they ever had in eons was to throw lives into a grinder and try get back what they lost, they never considered moving onwards, homies couldn't walk
The Sundered on the other hand grow stronger from their experiences and even when faced with tragedy, have the potential to move ever onwards, they can walk
>Sundered nuked themselves so badly that a new timeline had to created so they don't fricking kill themselves again
All ancients were flawed, the same way Athene was the extreme example of. Next to no consideration for playing with living beings like toys. Death and life are ultimately interconnected and if you as a species don't fear death anymore, you are also disconnected from life and unable to persist. They were on a long downward slide towards oblivion. Which the emo birdy just accelerated.
Venat met my Wol and fell instantly in love. She waited 10,000 years for a chance to see him one more time.
>poor man white
lmaoooo
ink blue looks better than jet black on 90% of items
For Warrior I can already see Upheaval and Orogeny merged into one button in 7.0. Other than that uhh.... more healing.
will the FF11 gays admit that 14's DRG is closer to the job identity than the 11 DRG?
>Master spearmen
>Slays dragons
>Lays dragons
>Heavy armor with draconian imagery
>Jumps
>Not a pet class
>I miss my friends
>So I'll recreate the entire capitol city of the old World and fill it with the echos of my friends so I'm never alone
>I miss my friends.
You could say Amaurot was Emet's final fantasy.
> He said the line
FFXVI made me happy when Clive and Ultima exchanged those words in the final battle
I wonder what does "echos of my friends" shit even involve.
the people he met and loved ?
No, I mean, how did he make them, how did Hyth's manage to have a personality, etc.
Sounding real familiar there...
God I hope we get Sin in FFXIV in some way. I wanna see that fricker just bust out of the ocean and obliterate a village like it did to Kilika.
Hopefully that place is called Limsa Lominsa
>Limsa gets rebuilt AGAIN
I'd be okay with that.
Cute boomer mommy.
Will bunnies finally get hats?
>final fantasy ex vee aye dawn trial