The phrase 'speaking Spanish' means, in English, that I am fluent in Spanish, not that I know a few Spanish words or repeated one.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What? No you moron, that is not how it works
5 months ago
Anonymous
are you third world anon? if you speak a word then you have spoken that word. if you type a word it is akin to you saying that word in an online sense. you spoke spanish, even if it was a single word. the fact you responded at all shows how brainbroken you are.
Yes it does. 'Speaking' in this context means 'fluency'. A lot of words have multiple meanings and implications in English depending on context, unlike in your language.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>can't even comprehend when it's speaking
We've hit rock bottom bros
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm so sorry you do not understand advanced English. I'm aware this is a difficult concept for ESLs.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>speaking means fluency
I believe you meant to say something along the lines of
"Speaking means you are fluent."
The question at hand is not whether you are fluent in Spanish, it was whether or not you spoke a Spanish word. I won't ask you to stop moving goalposts though as I am sure your 3rd worlder ass loves a good soccer analogy. I will however ask you to please stop speaking my language, English, immediately anon. You may continue in whatever tongue you are used to.
What? No you moron, that is not how it works
are you third world anon? if you speak a word then you have spoken that word. if you type a word it is akin to you saying that word in an online sense. you spoke spanish, even if it was a single word. the fact you responded at all shows how brainbroken you are.
Imbeciles.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's one samegayging troon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>speaking means fluency
I believe you meant to say something along the lines of
"Speaking means you are fluent."
The question at hand is not whether you are fluent in Spanish, it was whether or not you spoke a Spanish word. I won't ask you to stop moving goalposts though as I am sure your 3rd worlder ass loves a good soccer analogy. I will however ask you to please stop speaking my language, English, immediately anon. You may continue in whatever tongue you are used to.
5 months ago
Anonymous
As I explained to you, my brown friend, 'speaking' in that context means 'fluency'. Just like how in certain contexts, when I call you 'slow', I really mean 'moronic'.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Repeating yourself already? Saying something incorrect twice does not make it suddenly correct. Why are you using the 3rd world quotes ' ' instead of the more usual quotes " " ? You can take that bit as free advice to blend in better from here on anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I still don't speak Spanish, anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then why did you factually speak spanish earlier in this thread? it isn't up for debate. it is recorded history anon. it's not like you said it in a voice call. you typed it in a place where it will be permanently viewable. you speaking spanish will outlive either of us. why does that fact bother you so much?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Anon cannot even capitalize his posts properly.
See, this is why it's funny that you keep dismissing my little lesson on contextual meaning in English.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, it does. You do not speak a language just because you can repeat a word or two. Only pseudo-polyglot grifters do this to claim they speak every language on earth.
let me make this easy for you, you cannot speak spanish words in english. you being fluent or not is some shit you made up. if you speak a foreign word you are speaking that word in another language. you cannot refute this simple fact.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I SEE THIS ELF EVERYWHERE!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!! ITS ALMOST AS BAD AS THE CAT!!!! AHHHHH!!!
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
I SEE THIS ELF EVERYWHERE!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!! ITS ALMOST AS BAD AS THE CAT!!!! AHHHHH!!!
>speaking means fluency
I believe you meant to say something along the lines of
"Speaking means you are fluent."
The question at hand is not whether you are fluent in Spanish, it was whether or not you spoke a Spanish word. I won't ask you to stop moving goalposts though as I am sure your 3rd worlder ass loves a good soccer analogy. I will however ask you to please stop speaking my language, English, immediately anon. You may continue in whatever tongue you are used to.
Yo by the way these are Ganker schizos who constantly fight with ACK(sean), your threads are fricked forever XIVbros. They are literally NEETs who just spend all day baiting that moron into sperging out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they came from a Sankaku thread since they congregate on there.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, it does. You do not speak a language just because you can repeat a word or two. Only pseudo-polyglot grifters do this to claim they speak every language on earth.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Speaking refers to the action of speak. "used for or engaged in speech."
5 months ago
Anonymous
have a nice day
5 months ago
Anonymous
are you third world anon? if you speak a word then you have spoken that word. if you type a word it is akin to you saying that word in an online sense. you spoke spanish, even if it was a single word. the fact you responded at all shows how brainbroken you are.
Fricking moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
are you third world anon? if you speak a word then you have spoken that word. if you type a word it is akin to you saying that word in an online sense. you spoke spanish, even if it was a single word. the fact you responded at all shows how brainbroken you are.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nah >If I ask "Can you speak?" it means "Are you capable of saying words"
To answer the question the other person must be capable of understanding it and then articulating a response. >If I ask "Can you speak Spanish?" it means "Are you capable of saying words in Spanish?"
Naturally that is a rather silly question because anyone that can speak can say a Spanish word if they know one. Therefore it is usually interpreted as "Are you capable of having a conversation in Spanish?" but the literal meaning of the sentence doesn't disappear. Kind of like how people may poke fun at you for asking if you "can" do something rather than if you "may",
i hate to break it to you anon, but by typing "ella" you literally did speak spanish.
interpreted your sentence wrong but wasn't wrong with what he said. >TL;DR
Frick you Hispanic Black person
I would, but decades of watching stuff from ADV and others before some of these modern translators were even sperm in their daddy's sac taught me that they just superimpose the localization script over and stuff aren't translated accurately, so it's a lose-lose either way.
What shit did Kate do other than fricking with Pixie localization and possibly this VA casting?
I learned in a recent thread that she refused to translate design notes about Emet and other stuff in the lore books and on stream since Yoshi-P's design notes stated he was designed with trap elements and she's altered and refused to translate other stuff too because Yoshi and staff were using a term that was basically used for male drag queens in Japan on stream to talk about some elements on the game. She's no KojiFox and wouldn't be worthy to wipe the shoes of Ted Woolsey.
Welp, at least there's some more incentive for me to learn Japanese. Part of me genuinely hope she massively oversteps and gets fired sooner rather than later
Otokonoko isn’t a a trap, she probably literally didn’t know how to translate it. You can roughly consider it “drag queen” or “drag” but it isn’t quite the same
5 months ago
Anonymous
>she probably literally didn’t know how to translate it
If I was trying to live interpret my direct superiors and they used that word I would probably refrain from translating it as well. She didn't look offended, she looked stumped at how to pull it off quickly without causing a problem.
5 months ago
Anonymous
closest wide-ranging translation i could think of would be "femboys" tbh but that has a lot of its own problems, and most normies know the word from tucker carlson putting femboy porn on their TV screen and demanding to know if they're mad about it
5 months ago
Anonymous
would "female son" be appropriate? translating idioms and very specific words like that must be a very difficult job
5 months ago
Anonymous
Crossdresser would be the appropriate translation, although calling him 'okama' would also be more appropriate than 'otokonoko' considering who the character is.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The biggest issue is that calling Emet any of the natural translations for otokonoko doesn't really get across the point even if you dodge things that will offend people. I would really struggle to come up with an appropriate translation without just explaining what was meant in more detail.
5 months ago
Anonymous
He's a flamboyant theatre kid.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i still dont know why yoshi used that word in particular because it doesnt really fit emet. genderless seems like it would have worked better
5 months ago
Anonymous
>she probably literally didn’t know how to translate it
If I was trying to live interpret my direct superiors and they used that word I would probably refrain from translating it as well. She didn't look offended, she looked stumped at how to pull it off quickly without causing a problem.
The only appropriate way to address it is to simply not even attempt to appropriate the term.
It has no exact linguistic or cultural equivalent in English so it can safely be left in Japanese.
Not everything needs to be directly translated to something, we use a lot of Japanese terms and words already because we learnt the meaning.
This reply chain took a weird turn. The word you're looking for is '' okama '' and it has nothing to do with traps or otokonoko, and in western sensibilities it can be a somewhat offensive or derogatory term, because it usually applies to all those joke characters in anime who are really fricking limp-wristed sissy gay men (who are often ugly or super buff for added comical effect) who crossdress and sexually harass male characters. Though I'm unsure how derogatory it is in Japanese culture, I think in there it just relates to a very feminine gay man (who often does drag as a job or as a hobby).
I think it would've been completely fine to translate okama as drag queen, I think most western fans would've been completely understanding of Emet-Selch having a bit of drag queen flair and drama in his conception.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Just say he's eccentric and effeminate.
How the frick is this so difficult?
so any of you frickers have the clip where this happens? I want to compile all the bullshit kate did
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't but i can offer my own observations form the live letter.
She refers to 8-man raids as "8-person" raids in that raid segment.
And for the cosmic exploration, yoshi uses the word "colonization" in english, and she didn't say that part when she translated it for obvious reason.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm so fricking tired of this needless revision of language, especially longstanding terminology everyone already understand and uses.
5 months ago
Anonymous
she definitely said 8 man when they showed it during the keynote this weekend.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Are you serious or just exaggerating
Because if she pulled that garbage she needs to be fired
That shit is how grievous misunderstanding happens
>Species made of literal magic >Designed not to reproduce >Essentially worker bots >NOOO THEY NEED TO HAVE SEX
Them being without a sex makes sense. Them dabbling in the different masculine/feminine traits is a cute quirk in the same way a child would, with innocence and lacking the deeper meaning of it.
I get that kate fricks up a lot of shit with the wording, but I doubt the idea is much changed from what is intended. Your well is poisoned.
Anon you dont understand, more than fricking genders you can't fricking rewrite bullshit up the ass by fricking with another countries language
That in itself is colonization and that leads to massive problems down the line.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I had an auto translation running whenever yoshi talks and it's interesting the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that wouldn't even be problematic.
Like the arcadion section he makes a joke about cooling it down before entering the raid (continuing the GPU meme)
5 months ago
Anonymous
she's terrible at understanding spoken Japanese (I hope only under pressure) and always misses 50% of the jokes he makes, in any live letter
In any live letter, you can find segments where Yoship makes some shitty joke and there's an awkward pause where he waits for her to translate, only to keep talking when he realizes there is nothing coming
5 months ago
Anonymous
> the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that wouldn't even be problematic.
Anon i dont think you quite grasp what a terrible and dangerous thing you're advocating a few misplaced, cut and changed words can make a completely different story.
Now i know some words have no Japanese alternative but that doesnt mean they can be cut out
For example im going to translate your post once to german and then retranslate your post as shoddily as possible and removing and adding lets say 5 words maximum.
You tell me if you think the meaning has changed >Not that I had an translation running whenever yoshi talks and it's interesting the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that would even be problematic. >Like the arcadion section he makes a joke about cooling it down before entering the raid (continuing the GPU meme)
5 months ago
Anonymous
skipping a random joke during live interpretation isn't really comparable to adding random "not"s to a sentence to try to make it say the literal opposite of the intended meaning
5 months ago
Anonymous
First its a joke, then its something difficult, then its something someone doesnt want to translate.
I've seen this all happen before. Its unacceptable in every field
Especially translation. That misplaced joke in itself is serious business
Why?
Because it literally changes the mood of a setting
Imagine a tense setting and someone uses a joke to cut the tension, his side laughs because its funny.
Imagine that joke is not translated to the other side and its interpreted as being disrespectful instead.
See where im going with this.
Besides even in your scenario Yoshi P made a joke, But we didnt know about it and thought it was just dry bulletpoint and the awkwardness she created.
Do you truly believe thats ok?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Imagine a tense setting and someone uses a joke to cut the tension, his side laughs because its funny. >Imagine that joke is not translated to the other side and its interpreted as being disrespectful instead.
its a video game presentation not a hostage negotiation
5 months ago
Anonymous
She didnt make the video game presentation fun like you said she actively cut out the funny parts.
pick your battles
waging a war against the localizers on Ganker is an exercise in total and complete pointlessness
spam square enix social media, inboxes, the official forum (ideally you can make japanese threads for maximum likelihood of square enix viewership, even if you'll get laughed at for being a filthy foreigner trying to bring your western problems over to the japanese forum)
not Ganker threads where you're either preaching to the choir or pissing off the choir by being a broken record
you can only deliver the whole "i've seen it many times, this is unacceptable" speech once. the second time is an agenda. the third time is a crusade
This is my first time saying any of that
5 months ago
Anonymous
>cut out the funny parts.
1. she mentioned the other gpu jokes. shit gets dropped in live interpretation situations like this, especially since the cooling off joke was off the cuff. she didnt cut any important information and acting like she's being malicious or incompetent makes you sound like a psycho.
he very clearly is in the "pissing off the choir" camp and wants you to go away
[...] >aside from the fact that kate is probably real shit at spoken japanese it's pretty hard to translate things like that on the fly.
her accent is atrocious but she's perfectly cromulent, her on-the-fly translation is pretty similar to koji's overall up to and including dropped jokes
koji is way more comfortable on stage too. kate's gotten a lot better at least, she sounded like she was about to cry during her first fan fest
5 months ago
Anonymous
That was not what described here
I had an auto translation running whenever yoshi talks and it's interesting the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that wouldn't even be problematic.
Like the arcadion section he makes a joke about cooling it down before entering the raid (continuing the GPU meme)
>was off the cuff
And? Thats not an excuse at all. Life is unpredictable. You cant use that as an excuse. > and acting like she's being malicious or incompetent makes you sound like a psycho.
Why are you being disingenuous for?
i am obviously not answering for whatever unspoken definition of "cromulent" you had when you read that line, i am comparing her translation work to koji's and it is of roughly similar quality. again, up to and including dropping lines at random or not translating absolutely everything
>cromulent
You fricking homosexuals need to stop using words you dont understand than. >i am comparing her translation work to koji's
Im saying they do to do their jobs even if the extend of their ability to translate and interpret is is
Yoshi told a joke about GPU's
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You fricking homosexuals need to stop using words you dont understand
i'm not taking that from somebody that whips out "disingenuous" at the drop of a hat
5 months ago
Anonymous
>pulling out disingenuous out of the drop of my hat when these anons exist
>That was not what described here
thats why i pulled it up and watched it. he turns his back to the audience and looks at her directly and in a completely different tone from his "presenter" tone goes "makes me want to cool off" and while she giggles he turns back and immediately starts the next point of the presentation which she translates.
OH WAIT OH NO SHE SAID "THE ARCADION" NOT "HEAVENLY SEAT ARCADION" SHE SHOULD BE FIRED
actually its even worse, it should be Arcadia troonslators are at it again. definitive proof the woke agenda is destroying eorzean civilization
Frick you, you worthless piece of shit
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Frick you, you worthless piece of shit
but anon, she said a word differently. what if it was a tense situation? i thought you said she needs to be fired for pulling that kind of garbage? that other anon didn't even know it was called the heavenly seat, its a grievous misunderstanding
5 months ago
Anonymous
>that other anon didn't even know it was called the heavenly seat, its a grievous misunderstanding
It actually does seem like some pretty important context that makes it more obvious that it's Ascian related, yeah. I would have appreciated if it was called The Heavenly Seat of Arcadion.
5 months ago
Anonymous
FYI, FF14 has been deleting shit like this for literally their entire localization. Every major trial and raid have "titles" just like that. There was a list at some point but it's years old now
5 months ago
Anonymous
>removing final fantasies dungeon name >making terminus ends or some other instead
How boring
5 months ago
Anonymous
It is grievous misunderstanding you moronic frick. Even the other anon is theorizing Altima. Now that’s completely out of the discussion for now.
How does any of that bullshit disprove my point? >let me just not translate
What kind of fricking moronation do you have
5 months ago
Anonymous
>It is grievous misunderstanding you moronic frick
then why did you call me a worthless piece of shit? you're not making sense, friend. maybe you should spend some time with Genki and Tae Kim instead of arguing about translation accuracy based on 2nd hand accounts from a guy using google translate. especially since the first thing you said she should be fired for was in response to a guy who thought 変わらないじゃないです was yoshida saying the english word "colonization"
5 months ago
Anonymous
>That was not what described here
thats why i pulled it up and watched it. he turns his back to the audience and looks at her directly and in a completely different tone from his "presenter" tone goes "makes me want to cool off" and while she giggles he turns back and immediately starts the next point of the presentation which she translates.
OH WAIT OH NO SHE SAID "THE ARCADION" NOT "HEAVENLY SEAT ARCADION" SHE SHOULD BE FIRED
5 months ago
Anonymous
Is it actually Heavenly Seat Arcadion? More proof that it's Altima.
5 months ago
Anonymous
actually its even worse, it should be Arcadia troonslators are at it again. definitive proof the woke agenda is destroying eorzean civilization
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's 至天の座 アルカディア
they deleted the fancy part like they always do it changed to to Arcadion because they always change names for no reason
5 months ago
Anonymous
I like that name better, unfortunate.
5 months ago
Anonymous
pick your battles
waging a war against the localizers on Ganker is an exercise in total and complete pointlessness
spam square enix social media, inboxes, the official forum (ideally you can make japanese threads for maximum likelihood of square enix viewership, even if you'll get laughed at for being a filthy foreigner trying to bring your western problems over to the japanese forum)
not Ganker threads where you're either preaching to the choir or pissing off the choir by being a broken record
you can only deliver the whole "i've seen it many times, this is unacceptable" speech once. the second time is an agenda. the third time is a crusade
5 months ago
Anonymous
also this gut exists
>Imagine a tense setting and someone uses a joke to cut the tension, his side laughs because its funny. >Imagine that joke is not translated to the other side and its interpreted as being disrespectful instead.
its a video game presentation not a hostage negotiation
5 months ago
Anonymous
he very clearly is in the "pissing off the choir" camp and wants you to go away
aside from the fact that kate is probably real shit at spoken japanese it's pretty hard to translate things like that on the fly.
that whole post about how real translators would be getting proper better paying jobs applies here
>aside from the fact that kate is probably real shit at spoken japanese it's pretty hard to translate things like that on the fly.
her accent is atrocious but she's perfectly cromulent, her on-the-fly translation is pretty similar to koji's overall up to and including dropped jokes
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then hes moronic for acting like a moron >but she's perfectly cromulent
If she was decent she would have just told that joke unfunnily. No ones going to laugh at her or koji thats on yoshi.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i am obviously not answering for whatever unspoken definition of "cromulent" you had when you read that line, i am comparing her translation work to koji's and it is of roughly similar quality. again, up to and including dropping lines at random or not translating absolutely everything
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didnt add a random not i misplaced your would(n't)
Which is something that is extremely common in translating
5 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, when I heard her speaking Japanese, I realized that her Japanese is not very good. Wish they still had Koji doing live translations. He was great during the EU Fanfest. Dude is funny, and more importantly, genuinely understands Japanese
5 months ago
Anonymous
aside from the fact that kate is probably real shit at spoken japanese it's pretty hard to translate things like that on the fly.
that whole post about how real translators would be getting proper better paying jobs applies here
5 months ago
Anonymous
>And for the cosmic exploration, yoshi uses the word "colonization" in english
where? i'm going through it again and i'm not hearing it
>most of which
Based spicball ESL reading comprehension. You missed your shot at being a smart-ass by asking if they were in HW and SB and now look incredibly moronic due to your natural sub-80 IQ.
I was refering to shadow bringers myself., you see my post where i said quality VA at shadow bringers? I was refering to the quality va from shadowbringers, mainly being emet vaulthey and ranjit who are all from game of thrones and had amazing performances, and are all not american.
Ill link to it again so you can see.
The dub was amazing. Until now.
Shadowbringers had nothing but quality voice actors, what the frick happened
I really doubt kate has any involvement with the eng casting. It's more likely they just told their casting company to source some american talent since dawntrail will have some latain flair, and got a troony because that's just how bad the NA scene is.
NA voice actors are shit they shouldnt be hired in the first place
I would, but decades of watching stuff from ADV and others before some of these modern translators were even sperm in their daddy's sac taught me that they just superimpose the localization script over and stuff aren't translated accurately, so it's a lose-lose either way.
[...]
I learned in a recent thread that she refused to translate design notes about Emet and other stuff in the lore books and on stream since Yoshi-P's design notes stated he was designed with trap elements and she's altered and refused to translate other stuff too because Yoshi and staff were using a term that was basically used for male drag queens in Japan on stream to talk about some elements on the game. She's no KojiFox and wouldn't be worthy to wipe the shoes of Ted Woolsey.
You know its funny to me that people who champion lgbt always look down on people who are adjacent to them
I really doubt kate has any involvement with the eng casting. It's more likely they just told their casting company to source some american talent since dawntrail will have some latain flair, and got a troony because that's just how bad the NA scene is.
said, they probably just told the NA SE branch to get some American actors, since they always use British ones but need hispanics in the America-inspired zone (also possibly a southern accent in the wild west zone), and they casted a fricking troony because the NA voice acting scene is an absolute joke
No one ever said this overvthe past 6 months until just now, just like no one complained about SHB localization until Kate was revealed to have taken Koji's place.
I thought the voice prior was Erenville that just sounded a bit weird.
5 months ago
Anonymous
They sound nothing alike, although now I remember some people's thinking it sounded like a boy but in those instances where young boys (Ashley Ketchum, kid Goku, etc) are voiced by women.
>just like no one complained about SHB localization
People dod when they found out Pixies got their quest line fricked with by being made all nonbinary.
They're the same in JP, Japan doesn't have a term that translates to "nonbinary" but they're not literal girls, because how do you explain the lost souls of boys being turned into girls?
>They're the same in JP, Japan doesn't have a term that translates to "nonbinary"
So it isn't nonbinary
5 months ago
Anonymous
Look dude, English is the superior language. The language of kings and conquerors, every third-world is taught English because it is the official language of Earth. Other places don't have descriptive language so it has to be fixed.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>English is the superior language
Our language has been tarnished
5 months ago
Anonymous
You know for a long time french was considered the language of diplomacy. Things change as time goes.
being genderless or sexless isn't the same as "nonbinary" because that's just some made up bullshit boring people call themselves in lieu of having a personality
5 months ago
Anonymous
They aren't called nonbinary in-game and are basically treated as the former, so what's the issue?
>They're the same in JP, Japan doesn't have a term that translates to "nonbinary"
Yes it does, its called "X gender"
5 months ago
Anonymous
x-gender is a catch all term that doesn't actually encompass non-binary. in GG Testament was a dude that was considered x-gender and they changed x-gender to non-binary in strive because they aren't the same.
All this gender stuff is bullshit, so I'm not sure why anyone bothers.
Never bothered with the best tribe quest for them. I always just assumed they were genderless magic creatures, because they are. Did the localisation shove in the word "nonbinary" or something?
>I have a browser extension that blocks blue checks so if someone is wondering why they're blocked that's probably why
Is Square okay with that? I should probably mass email them about it
>They're one of the main things keeping hiroshimoot from shuttering this place.
It's actually ads and advertisers, the pass doesn't make enough to keep the lights on.
https://www.wired.com/story/Ganker-moderation-buffalo-shooting/
It's a recent article, but tl;dr heres a quote from it >Nearly a week after the Buffalo terrorist attack, RapeApe and dsw—two moderators on Ganker’s payroll—had a conversation about the fallout. They had just received notice from their advertising platform, Bid.Glass, that Ganker was being dropped.
>“We just got a termination notice from Bid.Glass. I'm going to try to talk him out of it (it's basically one dude running the company), but in the likely event that fails we are going to need some kind of replacement,” RapeApe wrote.
Key takeaway from this is that just one company that offers advertising services terminating their contract with this site is enough to make the mods (who do get paid btw) squirm, now imagine if more than one did that. Quickest way to kill this site is to take any company, or group that pays to have their ads displayed on the site to court, even if it doesn't win the threat of potential litigation is enough to make them pull out and the hemorrhaging will eventually catch up to the site.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>>“We just got a termination notice from Bid.Glass. I'm going to try to talk him out of it (it's basically one dude running the company), but in the likely event that fails we are going to need some kind of replacement,” RapeApe wrote.
>RapeApe wrote.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Huh, with the general quality of the ads I kinda figured the rates must be abysmal. The only thing that made sense was that pass sales made up for it. Wild if that's not the case.
5 months ago
Anonymous
the site is still profitable in some way or otherwise hiro wouldn't have bought it, though that would imply whatever avenue makes the site profitable doesn't apply to the moderation crew
5 months ago
Anonymous
There have been a few recent articles doing some investigating into the site, one as I recall found out that Good Smile helped Hiroshimoot buy the site from Moot back in 2015, the details elude me but I think even Docomo was involved alongside GS and Hiro, something about Hiro's creation of 2ch and success with NicoNico makes him seen as someone with the knowhow and that the site would be a net positive for GS sales. I have no doubt that ads play a major role in keeping the lights up, followed by whatever additional funding GS is providing behind the scenes, and passes being smack dab last.
5 months ago
Anonymous
https://www.wired.com/story/Ganker-good-smile/ there we go it was another wired article.
Why would you watch somebody play anything, especially D&D? Isn't a big part of the tabletopgay experience the actual in person game??
This is as bad as watching streamers play video games
i've never watched Critical Role for the exact reasons you're saying but they are all professional actors at least so presumably it's slightly better than sending your weekly allowance to some failson on twitch
It's fair to think that, but anon, telling your enemies it's bad won't stop them from doing it, so why should only you abstain?
Riddle me this Batman: If cancel culture’s so gay, why are you deepthroating it in this thread?
For one, that was my first response to this comment chain, I just disagree with the argument you are making and it's annoying to see. For two, I don't actually believe in freedom of speech, so there's no actual internal contradiction with my philosophy.
>internal contradiction with my philosophy >all for some rando who blocked morons who pay for xitter
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm making a general point in response to you claiming that I think 'cancel culture is gay'. I think the people doing it are gay, rather than the base concept of preventing subversive ideas from spreading or being accepted.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn’t like cancel culture >defends cancel culture when it suits them
Either esl or legitimately moronic
5 months ago
Anonymous
They are zoomers. Just stop responding dude seriously.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I just told you the issue isn't 'cancel culture', but the people doing the cancelling, and over what.
Every single person I've seen that says they use stuff to block blue check marks are always mentally ill. Must be because they're super angry anyone can get one now.
This was my mode of thinking 15 years ago until it also came for vidya in a very earnest and possible way that would monumentally shift its direction. And that is the harsh lesson, you can't run from this shit. You don't have to look far.
>tfw you can immediately tell who the wowfuge is by how salty he is in a leveling dungeon
5 months ago
Anonymous
I notice them when I get one as a tank, they do this weird stop and go where you can't really do your burst properly. They start with a small pull then at a random point sprint off to the next pack.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not a wow guy but i have to do weird stops if dps pulls aggro off me.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You shouldn't be losing aggro in modern FFXIV unless your gear is really underleveled for the dungeon or you forgot to turn on tank stance.
5 months ago
Anonymous
On launch for new expansions
Thats usually exactly what happens
But also some DPS holy frick can they tear away aggro
5 months ago
Anonymous
see this anon here
>tfw you're two xenoglossies away from ripping threat from the tank
there is no better feeling than doing real good on black mage
he had tank stance on
I'm just that good at black mage
BLM are usually the ones who do so much damage they can tear away aggro even when tankstance is on. So weird stops are inevitable if they go full >let me melt the enemy
5 months ago
Anonymous
>BLM are usually the ones who do so much damage they can tear away aggro even when tankstance is on.
This is literally fanfiction and simply doesn't happen outside of tank playing terrible, being undergeared, or not having stance.
t. play BLM at orange percentile
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's happened to me before
t. plays BLM
5 months ago
Anonymous
What i mean in this scenario is if i attacked a mob with my aoes and continue to run to the next set
A BLM that focus fires on one of them will 100% tear aggro away from me forcing me to double back and retake aggro
Do you deny that?
i don't care what some weeaboo homosexual thinks
No its just dub actors being shit sure there are good ones but the bad ones will always ruin it
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's on the BLM for being a moron and not waiting until things are grouped up, anybody can tear aggro away if the tank is still running while scooping mobs up.
5 months ago
Anonymous
black mages aren't morons, they're just doing their job too quickly
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not pressing any buttons while everyone's running and the melees are pressing a few makes you feel like a moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not pressing any buttons while everyone's running and the melees are pressing a few makes you feel like a moron.
You can easily spam your procs and AM to tank If you happen to take aggro. Do you even BLM?
5 months ago
Anonymous
yes but 7/10 a BLM is the one that does it
I have also seen
>tfw you're two xenoglossies away from ripping threat from the tank
there is no better feeling than doing real good on black mage
It was hilarious I was playing DPS and that moment me laugh out lound and want to be a better DPS Coudlnt do it with BLM though
If you do a single gcd on the pack of enemies as a tank and then start running without doing anything else then any DPS can pull off of you, so another gcd before running off and nothing will pull off of you or cycle through the enemies with the ranged attack if you really don't want to wait
I usually do one ranged attack, and two GCD before i use"dash" to run to the next set as im running i continue the GCD aoes BUT when you dash only half the monsters will ever catch up with you the other half will receive full brunt of the DPS attacks
If they are good enough they will tear it away and while this is not a normal thing it does happen.
5 months ago
Anonymous
If you do a single gcd on the pack of enemies as a tank and then start running without doing anything else then any DPS can pull off of you, so another gcd before running off and nothing will pull off of you or cycle through the enemies with the ranged attack if you really don't want to wait
5 months ago
Anonymous
Could be a very new tank, I don't main any tank and I pull pretty random size packs.
Except the fact that they have a troony VA now. It's not something that was dug up either, he loudly announced his role.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody with any level of self respect listens to or engages with English dubs.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Doesn't count
5 months ago
Anonymous
Not even that guy. The game already had the most dogshit American VAs tainting it in ARR but you went out of your way to suffer through it instead of using the intended language. I'm not shocked they went back to using cheap Americans because you'll accept anything.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care about voice actors, meanwhile:
>All the content I wanted is coming back >Not sacrificing content for it, we're getting all of the old and new stuff >Both new jobs seem somewhat interesting >The graphical update looks incredible >FFXI finally getting some screentime
I'm concerned about the release date and I was concerned about 2 ultimates but apparently that's been confirmed in an interview so yeah, cool.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You can be happy about the good things and concerned about the bad things at the same time.
i dont know anything about any of the voice actors except this one because people like you went out of their way to find reasons to be stressed and upset
>I don't know anything... because...
Because you go out of your way to ignore information so you can pretend there's no problem.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Because you go out of your way to ignore information
i would have to go out of my way to gain information about voice actors because i dont actually give a shit. stop looking for reasons to be upset on purpose. the only thing you're accomplishing is hurting yourself.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't look for this information, I was informed by others. And now that I know, I'm not going to ignore this information like you are trying to.
5 months ago
Anonymous
what are you gonna do about it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Call you gay.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care about voice actors in any way shape or form.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i dont know anything about any of the voice actors except this one because people like you went out of their way to find reasons to be stressed and upset
>casting a troony to do a big buff woman
kek? but i'm honestly debating about switching over to JP voices because i can't deal with 3 years of having to hear a legit troony speak.
I love JP-onry schizo so much, this homie has been keeping threads alive since the start. Matsunoschizos and kateschizos need to take notes, as do lalafellschizos. DT threads will be glorious, 30x more active than SHB and EW threads
Japanese vs. English
I thought that voice line in the original teaser was Erenville this whole time.
I think ill switch to japanese this xpac, i need sexy cat girl voice. Not man with weird fricking voice and delivery.
>tfw literally the only good voices in 2.0 EN were Gaius, Urianger, Ilberd, and Raubahn >Minfilia gives one of the worst VA performances of all time (the hilarious NOOOO when the sylph gets kicked into the wall is so fricking bad it wraps back around to being hilarious) >Alphinaud makes me want to punt him into space >Cid sounds like he's actually lobotomized >everyone else is either painfully below average or completely forgettable (Biggs & Wedge have a couple of voice lines out of nowhere and it sounds like they were both recorded off of a fricking voice call)
Japanese vs. English
I thought that voice line in the original teaser was Erenville this whole time.
I think ill switch to japanese this xpac, i need sexy cat girl voice. Not man with weird fricking voice and delivery.
>I thought that voice line in the original teaser was Erenville this whole time.
How do you mistake a scandi accent to a latino one? They don't even sound the same.
You're tonedeaf or ESL if you think the ENG version sounds like Erenville.
He was the only other one on the boat in the teaser 5 months ago, which was 2 minutes earlier in the trailer. I thought it was just a weird line read. they said it with a weird fricking accent so i figured it was his. Sorry my brain registered "Man" when a man spoke i guess?
But even that doesn't make sense.
Erenville sounds like a Icelandic man whose about to offer you some moldy fish. Cat sounds like a Brazilian rent boy.
>He was the only other one on the boat in the teaser 5 months ago
Even from the very first trailer we could always see that there were more people on the boat.
>Alphi (hidden by lights for some reason) >The Lala driving the boat >Erenville >Sicard at the back
Definitely not the character we've heard talk before in a very heavy icelandic accent. Also let's not forget we have the fem hrothgar lower body datamined and shown in the patch which was easy enough to tie to the voice talking about going to their homeland.
You are just trying to be weird about shit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I watched the teaser one time, and got my mind off it besides the live letter.
Why in the frick would i know about a fem roth datamine, let alone have any kind of assumption that a fem roth would be present on that boat?
5 months ago
Anonymous
"I don't play the game and I only show up to shitpost so that's why I don't know anything about the game or it's characters"
Is that what you meant to say?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't see Golbez or the twelve in that teaser so i didn't care that much, i also dont give a shit about erenville and don't keep his voice in my head to care to remember.
Sorry bud, i didn't hyper analyze the teaser because i didn't see beast master or Corsair.
5 months ago
Anonymous
well I have good news for you anon, beastmaster is being added to the game
5 months ago
Anonymous
I know i saw, I'm real excited for it. Yoshi mentioned a list which translates to bounty hunting to me so i can't wait to get a menagerie of monsters going.
Pretending to be moronic only makes you moronic.
You know people can make an incorrect assumption right? It's harmless anyway, im sorry my brain heard man voice and registered as man dude, seriously.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Zero people before today thought it was a male voice, not even you.
How do I know this? Because no one posted about it. Now why would you, who somehow can't tell the difference between voices, choose today of all days to go on a crusade about a very insignificant thing such as this? Surely there's a good reason for it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>"Crusade"
I'm just saying what i figured when i watched the trailer anon. You seem hyper-fixated on a random anons mistake, which had a reason for it. >"crusade"
I'm literally just posting my personal experience, seriously man are you good?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>N-no everyone thought I was a woman!
You aren't, and they didn't.
cmon anons, lol
5 months ago
Anonymous
Stop pleading, we all know.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I did think it was him, but the retake when the character was shown sounded like a woman
5 months ago
Anonymous
>sounded like a woman
No he doesn't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick?
5 months ago
Anonymous
yeah she sounded more feminine than in the original trailer
maybe it's the face of the character with the voice?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>N-no everyone thought I was a woman!
You aren't, and they didn't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I also thought it was male voice, not eren but the trailer already had offscreen people talking so I thought it might of been taken out of a future trailer scene and overdubbed into that section during the first fan fest.
Watch more troony porn it gets pretty easy to tell
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sauce for this screenshot?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Dungeon meshi anime preview.
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Highly recommend reading the manga, and the show looks to be a very fun time as well! Hope you like it.
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cmon anons, lol
I thought it was Erenville, i was wrong. Oops. I'm legit sorry at this point lol.
5 months ago
Anonymous
OOH WHAT THE FRICK THIS WAS DUNGEON MESHI? Already finished it, I didn't know an anime was out, thanks lad.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Pretending to be moronic only makes you moronic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you giving it (You)s? do you want them to keep looping this shit forever.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The voice I heard definitely didn't sound like a woman, so why would I assume it was a female Hroth? I assumed it was just some offscreen male.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's over bro you already dropped your guard and admitted you don't play the game, close the thread and sit there feeling embarrassed.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The voice I heard definitely didn't sound like a woman, so why would I assume it was a female Hroth? I assumed it was just some offscreen male.
Not me, "bro," But im glad to see i wann't the only one who messed up.
Everyone and their mom knew it was a new character and probably a big fem cat, which is why she wasn't shown.
They even said something after the original teaser like >whose voice was that hmmmmmmmmm
Cant wait to never be able to talk about this character good or bad without their dumb VA being a troony being brought up and derailing the conversation.
you say that like its a bad thing
I dont hate him but what can you even do with him at this point
Its just like Harrison, Han solo affair
His death actually moves the plot foward and ends a character arc wonderfully
If the fujos stop simping theyd recognize it'll be like Haucherfaunt moment on crack.
Good business move by SE tbh. They are also paid for deradicalization by 5 eyes, same with the XIV shills on this board. People thought ESG was bad, lol, when this is revealed in 10 years ESG will look like a joke.
>overhaul the graphics >still use FMV for the trailer
They could have pulled a 1.0 and did a "powered with a relative supercomputer" inengine mo-capped cutscene for it and just casually mention it being realtime.
OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE FUJO WRITERS INTRODUCE ANOTHER COOL HOT FEMALE CHARACTER AND HAVE THEM FRICK OFF IN THE EXPANSION NEVER TO RETURN OUTSIDE OF TOKEN APPEARANCES OR WORSE, DEAD BECAUSE GOD FORBID ANY OF THEIR ACTUAL HUSBANDOS FRICKING DIE
When they added a Lilisette trust quest you find out you can indeed interact with Lilisette again. You help her kill a certain beast terrorizing her timeline.
The account still have a blue checkmark underneath it, going by the API, unless their blue-check blocker is set to ignore it if the business one is also present.
Here's my question
We haven't heard this characters voice acting yet, so why the frick is everyone so pissed off?
I mean, she said like 3 lines, Can't really tell if VA will be bad or not. you morons just want to doompost about literally fricking anything
You're appealing to morons that are looking for any reason at all, however slight, to pour jet fuel onto the whole thing and light it on fire, and then projectile defecate at the burning mess
I'm waiting to hear more lines, but most mtf trannies' voices don't pass, and I don't want to hear hours of some dude putting on his best woman impression.
How does one start the week with island sanctuary? Just throw up whatever for the first cycle? I'm just starting to get into this now that there's not much else to do
>No one was able to tell it was a troony >The first trailer with his voice released almost a year ago
Am I supposed to get mad about voice actors that do their jobs now? Because if thats the case, no one here would be playing any AAA game.
>Calling me tone deaf
I can hear a man's tone of voice, you're the one insisting a man sounds like a girl. He is a man, and we know he's a man, and yet you think someone else is tone deaf for hearing his male voice and thinking he is a man.
>I took one for the team and bought the book so I'll report back if there's anything useful in it
You're just a massive tsundere about wanting to read an isekai story
>furshit expansion >the interesting job is relegated to dumper tier limited job (i.e. waste of time and effort) >title sucks >nothing sounds good about the xp >trannies
"wow killer"
>shut him down >bought the book >probably here >this shit gets taken down
Holy schizo; leave with your larphomosexualry, no one here is (You)’re personal army
>People
Kids, a grown person isn't vulnerable unless they're autistic or mentally ill (not like we shouldn't protect them too), but kids are really easy to mess with if you have authority, like a teacher, counselor etc. Every day in the US is a new case where parents are suing a school over turning their kid into a troony without their consent.
none of that has anything to do with a random voice actor on twitter. i'm going to stop responding to off topic shit now, i hope you one day find the peace within that so clearly eludes you.
You said someone cutting their dick off isn't a problem, I pointed out how those dickchoppers propagate their ideas and encourage vulnerable adults and kids to dickchop by assuming positions of authority, and now you are trying to deflect. This voice actor is a problem because HE is part of a political and social movement, and members of this movement engage in the behavior I have previously described. It's like saying 'not all communists' at me while some tankie is throwing molotov wienertails at a police car and the little homosexuals you're defending are cheering him on.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT that Beastmaster isn't even half-done.
They didn't even have concept art to show. Or... anything.
We're probably not getting it until like 7.2
nta but they didn't show it, they just said it's comming. this was the part of the presentation detailing the more long term parts of the expansion patches.
I know thats its coming, but I feel like they had pretty much nothing to show since he spent like 10 minutes showing how they changed a word for german localization
>Do they really have nothing to show for launch?
unlike other games, they don't like to show dungeons, or zones that much, due their story relevancy
i'm not worried, EW had a bunch of surprises and DT will be no less
>Species made of literal magic >Designed not to reproduce >Essentially worker bots >NOOO THEY NEED TO HAVE SEX
Them being without a sex makes sense. Them dabbling in the different masculine/feminine traits is a cute quirk in the same way a child would, with innocence and lacking the deeper meaning of it.
I get that kate fricks up a lot of shit with the wording, but I doubt the idea is much changed from what is intended. Your well is poisoned.
They said "late" 7.x.
And im aware, i can wait, im sure there'll be plenty of fun content to mess with. I really am looking forward to getting the awesome FF bestiary under my belt. I hope Lyon is the class trainer. I also want to fantasia from male Hroth to female Hroth, but i think im going to be careful with the voice options with this recent development.
OOH WHAT THE FRICK THIS WAS DUNGEON MESHI? Already finished it, I didn't know an anime was out, thanks lad.
>a guy who ERPs as a little girl and gets trapped in that body in an MMO
That actually sounds like the makings of comedy gold.
Alright. I was going to drop the game over this but I'll let it slide this time. But I'll be watching xiv like a hawk from now on. the second they get rid of the gender symbols in character creation, I'm out.
c'monnnn greatm8 you gotta make more fricking lalafell stuff, you can't just shadow drop the best lalafell porn on the planet and then get its twitter suspended
pixiv cracks down really hard about underaged "looking" stuff these days iirc, obviously huge amounts of it still floats under the radar but most of them fled to twitter
5 months ago
Anonymous
huh, i always thought that was the place to drop that kind of content
guess ive been living under a rock
rip i guess
5 months ago
Anonymous
See
Nah, pixiv leaves 2D stuff alone. They cracked down on 3D.
Blame mastercard harassing them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Last I've heard they've swapped over to something called misskey. Don't know how accurate that is since I'm personally not a fan though
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, pixiv leaves 2D stuff alone. They cracked down on 3D.
I don't think 1.28 exists but they were around since 12/18/2011, so probably joined somewhere around the ARR announcement. Regardless, I kneel, they're a bigger oldgay than 99.99% of these threads are where the game is concerned.
simply stop giving them exactly the kind of attention they crave, you moron.
it's a self-victimization movement and you just keeping feeding them reasons to keep going.
I was going to buy dawntrail and pay a 3month sub but if there is trannies in casting I am not resubbing. Guess I will just play Dragons Dogma 2 all year
>no word about it >/pol/Black folk still complain >the expansion is supposed to be mexcio/SA/NA >spanish speaking actor play the role with a natural accent to enhance immersion
nuke polBlack folk.
Apparently the VA of the female hrothgar wrote a comedy book about an mmo player being stuck in the body of his e-girl character, and anon is saying he's a e-girlcon.
However only election transplants are offended.
lol no they aren't, /wowg/ is struggling to even survive after a lot of people in it were tempbanned for talking about FFXIV whatsoever, nobody wants to talk about WoW in there and for good reason
There was that one lala matrix instance that had plenty of male lala, with other lalas or races. But of course it died, it was intentionally shut down as was planned after a while.
I just want a good fricking video game
https://twitter.com/senabryer/status/1691536678425620484
>she/ella
What the frick is an 'ella'?
it's spanish you moron
I'm not a Hispanic so I don't speak Spanish, gomensorry.
i hate to break it to you anon, but by typing "ella" you literally did speak spanish.
The phrase 'speaking Spanish' means, in English, that I am fluent in Spanish, not that I know a few Spanish words or repeated one.
What? No you moron, that is not how it works
Yes it does. 'Speaking' in this context means 'fluency'. A lot of words have multiple meanings and implications in English depending on context, unlike in your language.
>can't even comprehend when it's speaking
We've hit rock bottom bros
I'm so sorry you do not understand advanced English. I'm aware this is a difficult concept for ESLs.
Imbeciles.
it's one samegayging troon.
>speaking means fluency
I believe you meant to say something along the lines of
"Speaking means you are fluent."
The question at hand is not whether you are fluent in Spanish, it was whether or not you spoke a Spanish word. I won't ask you to stop moving goalposts though as I am sure your 3rd worlder ass loves a good soccer analogy. I will however ask you to please stop speaking my language, English, immediately anon. You may continue in whatever tongue you are used to.
As I explained to you, my brown friend, 'speaking' in that context means 'fluency'. Just like how in certain contexts, when I call you 'slow', I really mean 'moronic'.
Repeating yourself already? Saying something incorrect twice does not make it suddenly correct. Why are you using the 3rd world quotes ' ' instead of the more usual quotes " " ? You can take that bit as free advice to blend in better from here on anon.
I still don't speak Spanish, anon.
Then why did you factually speak spanish earlier in this thread? it isn't up for debate. it is recorded history anon. it's not like you said it in a voice call. you typed it in a place where it will be permanently viewable. you speaking spanish will outlive either of us. why does that fact bother you so much?
>Anon cannot even capitalize his posts properly.
See, this is why it's funny that you keep dismissing my little lesson on contextual meaning in English.
let me make this easy for you, you cannot speak spanish words in english. you being fluent or not is some shit you made up. if you speak a foreign word you are speaking that word in another language. you cannot refute this simple fact.
I SEE THIS ELF EVERYWHERE!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!! ITS ALMOST AS BAD AS THE CAT!!!! AHHHHH!!!
Yo by the way these are Ganker schizos who constantly fight with ACK(sean), your threads are fricked forever XIVbros. They are literally NEETs who just spend all day baiting that moron into sperging out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they came from a Sankaku thread since they congregate on there.
Yes, it does. You do not speak a language just because you can repeat a word or two. Only pseudo-polyglot grifters do this to claim they speak every language on earth.
Speaking refers to the action of speak. "used for or engaged in speech."
have a nice day
Fricking moron
are you third world anon? if you speak a word then you have spoken that word. if you type a word it is akin to you saying that word in an online sense. you spoke spanish, even if it was a single word. the fact you responded at all shows how brainbroken you are.
Nah
>If I ask "Can you speak?" it means "Are you capable of saying words"
To answer the question the other person must be capable of understanding it and then articulating a response.
>If I ask "Can you speak Spanish?" it means "Are you capable of saying words in Spanish?"
Naturally that is a rather silly question because anyone that can speak can say a Spanish word if they know one. Therefore it is usually interpreted as "Are you capable of having a conversation in Spanish?" but the literal meaning of the sentence doesn't disappear. Kind of like how people may poke fun at you for asking if you "can" do something rather than if you "may",
interpreted your sentence wrong but wasn't wrong with what he said.
>TL;DR
Frick you Hispanic Black person
Yo, why are you speaking Japanese on an English speaking swordsmithing web zone?
That was neither Japanese nor English, but an abomination.
this gay got so btfo lmaooooooooooooooooo i'm floored
It's just the Spanish word for "she". Not sure why she bothered lol.
you can stand under my umbrella-ella-ella eeh eeh eeh
>Alice Lily Kyra (she/fae)
>Thank you for staying masked and hope you're able to stay cool and hydrated
>EN voices
Not even once!
JP voices only
hope we get to kill the hrothgar
She's voicing the down syndrome hroth based on how that face looks compared to other Hrothgars in that new reveal trailer
>she
I have bad news hombre...
This is somehow Kate's doing, isn't it?
Yep. Localization ruins everything without exception. Time to learn nip friend, or at least turn JP voices om
I would, but decades of watching stuff from ADV and others before some of these modern translators were even sperm in their daddy's sac taught me that they just superimpose the localization script over and stuff aren't translated accurately, so it's a lose-lose either way.
I learned in a recent thread that she refused to translate design notes about Emet and other stuff in the lore books and on stream since Yoshi-P's design notes stated he was designed with trap elements and she's altered and refused to translate other stuff too because Yoshi and staff were using a term that was basically used for male drag queens in Japan on stream to talk about some elements on the game. She's no KojiFox and wouldn't be worthy to wipe the shoes of Ted Woolsey.
Welp, at least there's some more incentive for me to learn Japanese. Part of me genuinely hope she massively oversteps and gets fired sooner rather than later
Otokonoko isn’t a a trap, she probably literally didn’t know how to translate it. You can roughly consider it “drag queen” or “drag” but it isn’t quite the same
>she probably literally didn’t know how to translate it
If I was trying to live interpret my direct superiors and they used that word I would probably refrain from translating it as well. She didn't look offended, she looked stumped at how to pull it off quickly without causing a problem.
closest wide-ranging translation i could think of would be "femboys" tbh but that has a lot of its own problems, and most normies know the word from tucker carlson putting femboy porn on their TV screen and demanding to know if they're mad about it
would "female son" be appropriate? translating idioms and very specific words like that must be a very difficult job
Crossdresser would be the appropriate translation, although calling him 'okama' would also be more appropriate than 'otokonoko' considering who the character is.
The biggest issue is that calling Emet any of the natural translations for otokonoko doesn't really get across the point even if you dodge things that will offend people. I would really struggle to come up with an appropriate translation without just explaining what was meant in more detail.
He's a flamboyant theatre kid.
i still dont know why yoshi used that word in particular because it doesnt really fit emet. genderless seems like it would have worked better
The only appropriate way to address it is to simply not even attempt to appropriate the term.
It has no exact linguistic or cultural equivalent in English so it can safely be left in Japanese.
Not everything needs to be directly translated to something, we use a lot of Japanese terms and words already because we learnt the meaning.
This reply chain took a weird turn. The word you're looking for is '' okama '' and it has nothing to do with traps or otokonoko, and in western sensibilities it can be a somewhat offensive or derogatory term, because it usually applies to all those joke characters in anime who are really fricking limp-wristed sissy gay men (who are often ugly or super buff for added comical effect) who crossdress and sexually harass male characters. Though I'm unsure how derogatory it is in Japanese culture, I think in there it just relates to a very feminine gay man (who often does drag as a job or as a hobby).
I think it would've been completely fine to translate okama as drag queen, I think most western fans would've been completely understanding of Emet-Selch having a bit of drag queen flair and drama in his conception.
Just say he's eccentric and effeminate.
How the frick is this so difficult?
That's the thing, he didn't say okama.
so any of you frickers have the clip where this happens? I want to compile all the bullshit kate did
I don't but i can offer my own observations form the live letter.
She refers to 8-man raids as "8-person" raids in that raid segment.
And for the cosmic exploration, yoshi uses the word "colonization" in english, and she didn't say that part when she translated it for obvious reason.
I'm so fricking tired of this needless revision of language, especially longstanding terminology everyone already understand and uses.
she definitely said 8 man when they showed it during the keynote this weekend.
Are you serious or just exaggerating
Because if she pulled that garbage she needs to be fired
That shit is how grievous misunderstanding happens
Anon you dont understand, more than fricking genders you can't fricking rewrite bullshit up the ass by fricking with another countries language
That in itself is colonization and that leads to massive problems down the line.
I had an auto translation running whenever yoshi talks and it's interesting the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that wouldn't even be problematic.
Like the arcadion section he makes a joke about cooling it down before entering the raid (continuing the GPU meme)
she's terrible at understanding spoken Japanese (I hope only under pressure) and always misses 50% of the jokes he makes, in any live letter
In any live letter, you can find segments where Yoship makes some shitty joke and there's an awkward pause where he waits for her to translate, only to keep talking when he realizes there is nothing coming
> the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that wouldn't even be problematic.
Anon i dont think you quite grasp what a terrible and dangerous thing you're advocating a few misplaced, cut and changed words can make a completely different story.
Now i know some words have no Japanese alternative but that doesnt mean they can be cut out
For example im going to translate your post once to german and then retranslate your post as shoddily as possible and removing and adding lets say 5 words maximum.
You tell me if you think the meaning has changed
>Not that I had an translation running whenever yoshi talks and it's interesting the amount of stuff she cuts or changes that would even be problematic.
>Like the arcadion section he makes a joke about cooling it down before entering the raid (continuing the GPU meme)
skipping a random joke during live interpretation isn't really comparable to adding random "not"s to a sentence to try to make it say the literal opposite of the intended meaning
First its a joke, then its something difficult, then its something someone doesnt want to translate.
I've seen this all happen before. Its unacceptable in every field
Especially translation. That misplaced joke in itself is serious business
Why?
Because it literally changes the mood of a setting
Imagine a tense setting and someone uses a joke to cut the tension, his side laughs because its funny.
Imagine that joke is not translated to the other side and its interpreted as being disrespectful instead.
See where im going with this.
Besides even in your scenario Yoshi P made a joke, But we didnt know about it and thought it was just dry bulletpoint and the awkwardness she created.
Do you truly believe thats ok?
>Imagine a tense setting and someone uses a joke to cut the tension, his side laughs because its funny.
>Imagine that joke is not translated to the other side and its interpreted as being disrespectful instead.
its a video game presentation not a hostage negotiation
She didnt make the video game presentation fun like you said she actively cut out the funny parts.
This is my first time saying any of that
>cut out the funny parts.
1. she mentioned the other gpu jokes. shit gets dropped in live interpretation situations like this, especially since the cooling off joke was off the cuff. she didnt cut any important information and acting like she's being malicious or incompetent makes you sound like a psycho.
koji is way more comfortable on stage too. kate's gotten a lot better at least, she sounded like she was about to cry during her first fan fest
That was not what described here
>was off the cuff
And? Thats not an excuse at all. Life is unpredictable. You cant use that as an excuse.
> and acting like she's being malicious or incompetent makes you sound like a psycho.
Why are you being disingenuous for?
>cromulent
You fricking homosexuals need to stop using words you dont understand than.
>i am comparing her translation work to koji's
Im saying they do to do their jobs even if the extend of their ability to translate and interpret is is
Yoshi told a joke about GPU's
>You fricking homosexuals need to stop using words you dont understand
i'm not taking that from somebody that whips out "disingenuous" at the drop of a hat
>pulling out disingenuous out of the drop of my hat when these anons exist
Frick you, you worthless piece of shit
>Frick you, you worthless piece of shit
but anon, she said a word differently. what if it was a tense situation? i thought you said she needs to be fired for pulling that kind of garbage? that other anon didn't even know it was called the heavenly seat, its a grievous misunderstanding
>that other anon didn't even know it was called the heavenly seat, its a grievous misunderstanding
It actually does seem like some pretty important context that makes it more obvious that it's Ascian related, yeah. I would have appreciated if it was called The Heavenly Seat of Arcadion.
FYI, FF14 has been deleting shit like this for literally their entire localization. Every major trial and raid have "titles" just like that. There was a list at some point but it's years old now
>removing final fantasies dungeon name
>making terminus ends or some other instead
How boring
It is grievous misunderstanding you moronic frick. Even the other anon is theorizing Altima. Now that’s completely out of the discussion for now.
How does any of that bullshit disprove my point?
>let me just not translate
What kind of fricking moronation do you have
>It is grievous misunderstanding you moronic frick
then why did you call me a worthless piece of shit? you're not making sense, friend. maybe you should spend some time with Genki and Tae Kim instead of arguing about translation accuracy based on 2nd hand accounts from a guy using google translate. especially since the first thing you said she should be fired for was in response to a guy who thought 変わらないじゃないです was yoshida saying the english word "colonization"
>That was not what described here
thats why i pulled it up and watched it. he turns his back to the audience and looks at her directly and in a completely different tone from his "presenter" tone goes "makes me want to cool off" and while she giggles he turns back and immediately starts the next point of the presentation which she translates.
OH WAIT OH NO SHE SAID "THE ARCADION" NOT "HEAVENLY SEAT ARCADION" SHE SHOULD BE FIRED
Is it actually Heavenly Seat Arcadion? More proof that it's Altima.
actually its even worse, it should be Arcadia troonslators are at it again. definitive proof the woke agenda is destroying eorzean civilization
It's 至天の座 アルカディア
they deleted the fancy part like they always do it changed to to Arcadion because they always change names for no reason
I like that name better, unfortunate.
pick your battles
waging a war against the localizers on Ganker is an exercise in total and complete pointlessness
spam square enix social media, inboxes, the official forum (ideally you can make japanese threads for maximum likelihood of square enix viewership, even if you'll get laughed at for being a filthy foreigner trying to bring your western problems over to the japanese forum)
not Ganker threads where you're either preaching to the choir or pissing off the choir by being a broken record
you can only deliver the whole "i've seen it many times, this is unacceptable" speech once. the second time is an agenda. the third time is a crusade
also this gut exists
he very clearly is in the "pissing off the choir" camp and wants you to go away
>aside from the fact that kate is probably real shit at spoken japanese it's pretty hard to translate things like that on the fly.
her accent is atrocious but she's perfectly cromulent, her on-the-fly translation is pretty similar to koji's overall up to and including dropped jokes
Then hes moronic for acting like a moron
>but she's perfectly cromulent
If she was decent she would have just told that joke unfunnily. No ones going to laugh at her or koji thats on yoshi.
i am obviously not answering for whatever unspoken definition of "cromulent" you had when you read that line, i am comparing her translation work to koji's and it is of roughly similar quality. again, up to and including dropping lines at random or not translating absolutely everything
I didnt add a random not i misplaced your would(n't)
Which is something that is extremely common in translating
yeah, when I heard her speaking Japanese, I realized that her Japanese is not very good. Wish they still had Koji doing live translations. He was great during the EU Fanfest. Dude is funny, and more importantly, genuinely understands Japanese
aside from the fact that kate is probably real shit at spoken japanese it's pretty hard to translate things like that on the fly.
that whole post about how real translators would be getting proper better paying jobs applies here
>And for the cosmic exploration, yoshi uses the word "colonization" in english
where? i'm going through it again and i'm not hearing it
What shit did Kate do other than fricking with Pixie localization and possibly this VA casting?
Mario’s a Black person…
>There are living, thinking people who listen to the english voice acting.
Emet was great
Hey, it's the best english dub in video games, as big an achievement as being the tallest midget
Final Fantasy XII is the best English dub in video games get it right numbnuts.
The dub was amazing. Until now.
Shadowbringers had nothing but quality voice actors, what the frick happened
SHB was the same VAs as HW and SB, anon...most of which are still in EW and DT.
Vaulthry and Ranjit are in EW and DT?
>most of which
Based spicball ESL reading comprehension. You missed your shot at being a smart-ass by asking if they were in HW and SB and now look incredibly moronic due to your natural sub-80 IQ.
I was refering to shadow bringers myself., you see my post where i said quality VA at shadow bringers? I was refering to the quality va from shadowbringers, mainly being emet vaulthey and ranjit who are all from game of thrones and had amazing performances, and are all not american.
Ill link to it again so you can see.
You okay you troony?
EYE AM RYGHETYOUGHSNIS
English is the main language. Even japs play with eng VA
Its just that good
Thancred's JP VA has more roles under his belt than the entire EN cast.
>Popular good
yeah, he's not only popular, but also one of the best male voice actors in japan
hence why he keeps getting hired
When it comes to voice acting in Japan, yes
Yes, and?
Bro even the Japanese think the English voice acting is better
>thinking
[x] doubt
Doesn't effect me.
I use JP VAs like how the game is intended to be played.
>Koji leaves
>Kate ends up destroying the English version
Luckily most people are tired of this shit so hopefully Square replaces her with AI.
I really doubt kate has any involvement with the eng casting. It's more likely they just told their casting company to source some american talent since dawntrail will have some latain flair, and got a troony because that's just how bad the NA scene is.
NA voice actors are shit they shouldnt be hired in the first place
You know its funny to me that people who champion lgbt always look down on people who are adjacent to them
>This is gonna result in most players for FF14 to swap to Japanese voice acting because the troony is awful
I doubt she has anything to do with casting
as
said, they probably just told the NA SE branch to get some American actors, since they always use British ones but need hispanics in the America-inspired zone (also possibly a southern accent in the wild west zone), and they casted a fricking troony because the NA voice acting scene is an absolute joke
We'll see, her only line in the trailer is good.
HE sounds like a man.
No one ever said this overvthe past 6 months until just now, just like no one complained about SHB localization until Kate was revealed to have taken Koji's place.
>Past 6 months
We only saw his character a few days ago.
Voice was in the first teaser.
Nobody knew what it belonged to and if it was even a person, now we know it's supposed to be a 'woman' and is a troony.
It was shit because it sounded american then too. But ive always complained about dubs
I thought the voice prior was Erenville that just sounded a bit weird.
They sound nothing alike, although now I remember some people's thinking it sounded like a boy but in those instances where young boys (Ashley Ketchum, kid Goku, etc) are voiced by women.
?
What does that have to do with dawntrail trailer?
>just like no one complained about SHB localization
People dod when they found out Pixies got their quest line fricked with by being made all nonbinary.
They're the same in JP, Japan doesn't have a term that translates to "nonbinary" but they're not literal girls, because how do you explain the lost souls of boys being turned into girls?
>They're the same in JP, Japan doesn't have a term that translates to "nonbinary"
So it isn't nonbinary
Look dude, English is the superior language. The language of kings and conquerors, every third-world is taught English because it is the official language of Earth. Other places don't have descriptive language so it has to be fixed.
>English is the superior language
Our language has been tarnished
You know for a long time french was considered the language of diplomacy. Things change as time goes.
being genderless or sexless isn't the same as "nonbinary" because that's just some made up bullshit boring people call themselves in lieu of having a personality
They aren't called nonbinary in-game and are basically treated as the former, so what's the issue?
Not true
See Titania described as a (direct translation) "Woman-King". Note - not Queen, but explicitly, Woman-King.
>They're the same in JP, Japan doesn't have a term that translates to "nonbinary"
Yes it does, its called "X gender"
x-gender is a catch all term that doesn't actually encompass non-binary. in GG Testament was a dude that was considered x-gender and they changed x-gender to non-binary in strive because they aren't the same.
All this gender stuff is bullshit, so I'm not sure why anyone bothers.
Japan has several terms for non-binary moron.
>ywnbaw
Never bothered with the best tribe quest for them. I always just assumed they were genderless magic creatures, because they are. Did the localisation shove in the word "nonbinary" or something?
It called the black furred one "they" or "them" and that's about the extent of it in-game.
>I have a browser extension that blocks blue checks so if someone is wondering why they're blocked that's probably why
Is Square okay with that? I should probably mass email them about it
>Critical Role
Companies have left Twitter, they don't give a shit anymore.
Paying for twitter is a humiliation ritual like paying to not type a captcha.
I get not paying for Twitter, but why shit on Ganker pass? They're one of the main things keeping hiroshimoot from shuttering this place.
God, that's just sad.
Sometimes dead is better, anon.
>shuttering
Yeah, shuttering. It means closing up shop, usually for an extended period of time if not permanently.
>They're one of the main things keeping hiroshimoot from shuttering this place.
It's actually ads and advertisers, the pass doesn't make enough to keep the lights on.
And the ads do?
https://www.wired.com/story/Ganker-moderation-buffalo-shooting/
It's a recent article, but tl;dr heres a quote from it
>Nearly a week after the Buffalo terrorist attack, RapeApe and dsw—two moderators on Ganker’s payroll—had a conversation about the fallout. They had just received notice from their advertising platform, Bid.Glass, that Ganker was being dropped.
>“We just got a termination notice from Bid.Glass. I'm going to try to talk him out of it (it's basically one dude running the company), but in the likely event that fails we are going to need some kind of replacement,” RapeApe wrote.
Key takeaway from this is that just one company that offers advertising services terminating their contract with this site is enough to make the mods (who do get paid btw) squirm, now imagine if more than one did that. Quickest way to kill this site is to take any company, or group that pays to have their ads displayed on the site to court, even if it doesn't win the threat of potential litigation is enough to make them pull out and the hemorrhaging will eventually catch up to the site.
>>“We just got a termination notice from Bid.Glass. I'm going to try to talk him out of it (it's basically one dude running the company), but in the likely event that fails we are going to need some kind of replacement,” RapeApe wrote.
>RapeApe wrote.
Huh, with the general quality of the ads I kinda figured the rates must be abysmal. The only thing that made sense was that pass sales made up for it. Wild if that's not the case.
the site is still profitable in some way or otherwise hiro wouldn't have bought it, though that would imply whatever avenue makes the site profitable doesn't apply to the moderation crew
There have been a few recent articles doing some investigating into the site, one as I recall found out that Good Smile helped Hiroshimoot buy the site from Moot back in 2015, the details elude me but I think even Docomo was involved alongside GS and Hiro, something about Hiro's creation of 2ch and success with NicoNico makes him seen as someone with the knowhow and that the site would be a net positive for GS sales. I have no doubt that ads play a major role in keeping the lights up, followed by whatever additional funding GS is providing behind the scenes, and passes being smack dab last.
https://www.wired.com/story/Ganker-good-smile/ there we go it was another wired article.
That sounds based.
Blocking blue checks I mean, not being a little sissy snitch desperate to cancel others.
>it's only okay when my side does it
have a nice day cancel culture sissy.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST START CANCELING US! THAT'S OUR THING!
karma's a b***h
does is he blocking blue checks anyway?
>critical role
Why would you watch somebody play anything, especially D&D? Isn't a big part of the tabletopgay experience the actual in person game??
This is as bad as watching streamers play video games
i've never watched Critical Role for the exact reasons you're saying but they are all professional actors at least so presumably it's slightly better than sending your weekly allowance to some failson on twitch
>we heckin hate cancel culture!!!1!
>they blocked ze checkmark? Notify Square Enix’s CFO immediately
how about no
the funniest part of his post was that he outed himself as buying a twitter checkmark
>Morals for three but not for me
I will not hold myself to standards to which you don't adhere. There is no reward for moral self-satisfaction.
he's saying all cancelling is bad, you fricking schizo.
That guy probably isn't even serious, probably someone farming screenshots so they can show them to someone as a sign of "LE HECKIN 4CHIN RAIDERINO"
no u *fricks ur mom and uncheckmarks
your’e account*
It's fair to think that, but anon, telling your enemies it's bad won't stop them from doing it, so why should only you abstain?
For one, that was my first response to this comment chain, I just disagree with the argument you are making and it's annoying to see. For two, I don't actually believe in freedom of speech, so there's no actual internal contradiction with my philosophy.
>internal contradiction with my philosophy
>all for some rando who blocked morons who pay for xitter
I'm making a general point in response to you claiming that I think 'cancel culture is gay'. I think the people doing it are gay, rather than the base concept of preventing subversive ideas from spreading or being accepted.
>doesn’t like cancel culture
>defends cancel culture when it suits them
Either esl or legitimately moronic
They are zoomers. Just stop responding dude seriously.
I just told you the issue isn't 'cancel culture', but the people doing the cancelling, and over what.
you're not at war, schizo-kun. someone cut off their dick and is now playing a voice in a video game. have some tea and calm down.
Riddle me this Batman: If cancel culture’s so gay, why are you deepthroating it in this thread?
Every single person I've seen that says they use stuff to block blue check marks are always mentally ill. Must be because they're super angry anyone can get one now.
Doesn't seem to work at all since plenty of blue check marks follow her and she says she whitelists people.
Getting mad over a blue checkmark is lol anyway
>her
>she
Does this mean the cat ingame is also trans? Where's our female Hrothgar supposed to be at?
No, it's just a regular female hrothgar being voiced by a troony
yes, all 'fem'hroths are trannies, hrothgars breed by raping miqo'tes
what is this thread even about?
Newest female character in FF14 is voiced by a troony
>what is this thread even about?
Welcome to Ganker
Ganker will never stop obsessing over trannies, NEVER.
>popular, long running game gets a troony va
>OMG STOP BEING OBSESSED
you're unhinged
wowtrannies trying to start shit
>use american VA for the first time in your 10 year old game
>it's a troony
America is such a fricking joke holy shit
I cannot fathom spending my days looking for reasons to be stressed and upset.
Don't say that or you'll be labeled as a mindless consoomer.
This was my mode of thinking 15 years ago until it also came for vidya in a very earnest and possible way that would monumentally shift its direction. And that is the harsh lesson, you can't run from this shit. You don't have to look far.
It's actually absurdly easy to ignore if you don't go looking for it.
You have to go out of your way to actually not see it. At that point it's just denial.
Maybe if you play WoW, but there's no reason to be upset in XIV.
>tfw you can immediately tell who the wowfuge is by how salty he is in a leveling dungeon
I notice them when I get one as a tank, they do this weird stop and go where you can't really do your burst properly. They start with a small pull then at a random point sprint off to the next pack.
Not a wow guy but i have to do weird stops if dps pulls aggro off me.
You shouldn't be losing aggro in modern FFXIV unless your gear is really underleveled for the dungeon or you forgot to turn on tank stance.
On launch for new expansions
Thats usually exactly what happens
But also some DPS holy frick can they tear away aggro
see this anon here
BLM are usually the ones who do so much damage they can tear away aggro even when tankstance is on. So weird stops are inevitable if they go full
>let me melt the enemy
>BLM are usually the ones who do so much damage they can tear away aggro even when tankstance is on.
This is literally fanfiction and simply doesn't happen outside of tank playing terrible, being undergeared, or not having stance.
t. play BLM at orange percentile
it's happened to me before
t. plays BLM
What i mean in this scenario is if i attacked a mob with my aoes and continue to run to the next set
A BLM that focus fires on one of them will 100% tear aggro away from me forcing me to double back and retake aggro
Do you deny that?
No its just dub actors being shit sure there are good ones but the bad ones will always ruin it
That's on the BLM for being a moron and not waiting until things are grouped up, anybody can tear aggro away if the tank is still running while scooping mobs up.
black mages aren't morons, they're just doing their job too quickly
Not pressing any buttons while everyone's running and the melees are pressing a few makes you feel like a moron.
You can easily spam your procs and AM to tank If you happen to take aggro. Do you even BLM?
yes but 7/10 a BLM is the one that does it
I have also seen
It was hilarious I was playing DPS and that moment me laugh out lound and want to be a better DPS
Coudlnt do it with BLM though
I usually do one ranged attack, and two GCD before i use"dash" to run to the next set as im running i continue the GCD aoes BUT when you dash only half the monsters will ever catch up with you the other half will receive full brunt of the DPS attacks
If they are good enough they will tear it away and while this is not a normal thing it does happen.
If you do a single gcd on the pack of enemies as a tank and then start running without doing anything else then any DPS can pull off of you, so another gcd before running off and nothing will pull off of you or cycle through the enemies with the ranged attack if you really don't want to wait
Could be a very new tank, I don't main any tank and I pull pretty random size packs.
Except the fact that they have a troony VA now. It's not something that was dug up either, he loudly announced his role.
Nobody with any level of self respect listens to or engages with English dubs.
>Doesn't count
Not even that guy. The game already had the most dogshit American VAs tainting it in ARR but you went out of your way to suffer through it instead of using the intended language. I'm not shocked they went back to using cheap Americans because you'll accept anything.
I don't care about voice actors, meanwhile:
>All the content I wanted is coming back
>Not sacrificing content for it, we're getting all of the old and new stuff
>Both new jobs seem somewhat interesting
>The graphical update looks incredible
>FFXI finally getting some screentime
I'm concerned about the release date and I was concerned about 2 ultimates but apparently that's been confirmed in an interview so yeah, cool.
You can be happy about the good things and concerned about the bad things at the same time.
>I don't know anything... because...
Because you go out of your way to ignore information so you can pretend there's no problem.
>Because you go out of your way to ignore information
i would have to go out of my way to gain information about voice actors because i dont actually give a shit. stop looking for reasons to be upset on purpose. the only thing you're accomplishing is hurting yourself.
I didn't look for this information, I was informed by others. And now that I know, I'm not going to ignore this information like you are trying to.
what are you gonna do about it
Call you gay.
I don't care about voice actors in any way shape or form.
i dont know anything about any of the voice actors except this one because people like you went out of their way to find reasons to be stressed and upset
Does anyone have her japanese voice?
I need to see if she sounds sexy enough for me to switch languages.
Who would have thought. I'm more tolerant here than in WoW.
Is she trans or a trans supporter? This is important
Trans
>casting a troony to do a big buff woman
kek? but i'm honestly debating about switching over to JP voices because i can't deal with 3 years of having to hear a legit troony speak.
>inb4 jp voice is also trans
>men are better at voicing women than women nowadays
Men literally can't stop winning.
MaleCHADS... BoyBOSSES... TypeAGODS... We're taking back control...
once bioholes are rendered completely obsolete we can finally ship them to their own island somewhere and have a functioning society
>alisaie only has 1 doujin
>it's an untranslated rape doujin
Who
Ronso wife
It's just as simple as that
I wish all of these "people" were dead
When are those baseball jerseys coming to the cash shop?
I want more skirts first
english dub is dogshit
I know it, you know it, everybody knows it
Is there a way to set this up as the Japanese voices but with English subtitles?
yep
I love JP-onry schizo so much, this homie has been keeping threads alive since the start. Matsunoschizos and kateschizos need to take notes, as do lalafellschizos. DT threads will be glorious, 30x more active than SHB and EW threads
He was right all along
both new jobs look cool AND the continued mental breakdown of people that call themselves "shitposters"
i am going to be eating GOOD this summer
imagine moderating a board
>tfw you're two xenoglossies away from ripping threat from the tank
there is no better feeling than doing real good on black mage
Are you really bragging about an alliance raid run where your tank never turned on stance?
he had tank stance on
I'm just that good at black mage
I feel that
that's why you don't play with the shitty english dub
were you seething when the trailer was in english lmao
?
Why would I when i watch the japanese one?
See
JP sounds like shit in comparison as per usual. The only time JP sounded better was in ARR
facts
I disagree
ARR, HW, Stormblood especially Stormblood, NOT ShB, EW and by the looks of it DT
i don't care what some weeaboo homosexual thinks
>tfw literally the only good voices in 2.0 EN were Gaius, Urianger, Ilberd, and Raubahn
>Minfilia gives one of the worst VA performances of all time (the hilarious NOOOO when the sylph gets kicked into the wall is so fricking bad it wraps back around to being hilarious)
>Alphinaud makes me want to punt him into space
>Cid sounds like he's actually lobotomized
>everyone else is either painfully below average or completely forgettable (Biggs & Wedge have a couple of voice lines out of nowhere and it sounds like they were both recorded off of a fricking voice call)
Engrish VA only got good after HW and even then SB was middling
It's not enough to make vidya women ugly, they gotta go ruin the furry women too.
?t=288
Man.
?t=288
Japanese vs. English
I thought that voice line in the original teaser was Erenville this whole time.
I think ill switch to japanese this xpac, i need sexy cat girl voice. Not man with weird fricking voice and delivery.
You're tonedeaf or ESL if you think the ENG version sounds like Erenville.
>I thought that voice line in the original teaser was Erenville this whole time.
How do you mistake a scandi accent to a latino one? They don't even sound the same.
He was the only other one on the boat in the teaser 5 months ago, which was 2 minutes earlier in the trailer. I thought it was just a weird line read. they said it with a weird fricking accent so i figured it was his. Sorry my brain registered "Man" when a man spoke i guess?
Least mentally disabled rightoid
But even that doesn't make sense.
Erenville sounds like a Icelandic man whose about to offer you some moldy fish. Cat sounds like a Brazilian rent boy.
I didn't give it much thought beyond my only watch of the trailer months ago.
What can i say man?
>He was the only other one on the boat in the teaser 5 months ago
Even from the very first trailer we could always see that there were more people on the boat.
>Alphi (hidden by lights for some reason)
>The Lala driving the boat
>Erenville
>Sicard at the back
Didn't see the Lala, it definitely wasn't a Roe voice, and it wasn't Alphinaud.
Who does that leave?
Definitely not the character we've heard talk before in a very heavy icelandic accent. Also let's not forget we have the fem hrothgar lower body datamined and shown in the patch which was easy enough to tie to the voice talking about going to their homeland.
You are just trying to be weird about shit.
I watched the teaser one time, and got my mind off it besides the live letter.
Why in the frick would i know about a fem roth datamine, let alone have any kind of assumption that a fem roth would be present on that boat?
"I don't play the game and I only show up to shitpost so that's why I don't know anything about the game or it's characters"
Is that what you meant to say?
I didn't see Golbez or the twelve in that teaser so i didn't care that much, i also dont give a shit about erenville and don't keep his voice in my head to care to remember.
Sorry bud, i didn't hyper analyze the teaser because i didn't see beast master or Corsair.
well I have good news for you anon, beastmaster is being added to the game
I know i saw, I'm real excited for it. Yoshi mentioned a list which translates to bounty hunting to me so i can't wait to get a menagerie of monsters going.
You know people can make an incorrect assumption right? It's harmless anyway, im sorry my brain heard man voice and registered as man dude, seriously.
Zero people before today thought it was a male voice, not even you.
How do I know this? Because no one posted about it. Now why would you, who somehow can't tell the difference between voices, choose today of all days to go on a crusade about a very insignificant thing such as this? Surely there's a good reason for it.
>"Crusade"
I'm just saying what i figured when i watched the trailer anon. You seem hyper-fixated on a random anons mistake, which had a reason for it.
>"crusade"
I'm literally just posting my personal experience, seriously man are you good?
cmon anons, lol
Stop pleading, we all know.
I did think it was him, but the retake when the character was shown sounded like a woman
>sounded like a woman
No he doesn't.
What the frick?
yeah she sounded more feminine than in the original trailer
maybe it's the face of the character with the voice?
>N-no everyone thought I was a woman!
You aren't, and they didn't.
I also thought it was male voice, not eren but the trailer already had offscreen people talking so I thought it might of been taken out of a future trailer scene and overdubbed into that section during the first fan fest.
Watch more troony porn it gets pretty easy to tell
Sauce for this screenshot?
Dungeon meshi anime preview.
?t=56
Highly recommend reading the manga, and the show looks to be a very fun time as well! Hope you like it.
I thought it was Erenville, i was wrong. Oops. I'm legit sorry at this point lol.
OOH WHAT THE FRICK THIS WAS DUNGEON MESHI? Already finished it, I didn't know an anime was out, thanks lad.
Pretending to be moronic only makes you moronic.
Why are you giving it (You)s? do you want them to keep looping this shit forever.
The voice I heard definitely didn't sound like a woman, so why would I assume it was a female Hroth? I assumed it was just some offscreen male.
It's over bro you already dropped your guard and admitted you don't play the game, close the thread and sit there feeling embarrassed.
Not me, "bro," But im glad to see i wann't the only one who messed up.
I'm a different anon backing up his point.
Everyone and their mom knew it was a new character and probably a big fem cat, which is why she wasn't shown.
They even said something after the original teaser like
>whose voice was that hmmmmmmmmm
Nobody thought that was a woman's voice.
oh damn she sounds really cute in JP
It's over, this game is getting worse and worse, imagine directly paying her by paying your month fee like a good paypig.
Cant wait to never be able to talk about this character good or bad without their dumb VA being a troony being brought up and derailing the conversation.
you would have never been able to talk about her regardless because she's a hrothgar and they only attract a certain kind of person
when i know who the voice actors are i start to disdain that video game
please keep this to yourself!
reminder than English is the main language
>dub
>fire troony
>implying i'd fanta my cat
Don't care, been palying the game in completely in Japanese since Kate showed up.
since late stormblood/shadowbringers?
Yes more or less, Koji's work was memey but at least it was inoffensive.
graha will die at the end of 7.0
Thank the Twelve
you say that like its a bad thing
I dont hate him but what can you even do with him at this point
Its just like Harrison, Han solo affair
His death actually moves the plot foward and ends a character arc wonderfully
If the fujos stop simping theyd recognize it'll be like Haucherfaunt moment on crack.
>you say that like its a bad thing
what makes you think that?
You have a graha pic
>You have
>copy image
>ctrl+v on the reply
i don't save ANYTHING
i wont allow it
From repeated mating press prostate orgasm only to be revived for round 4.
As if they'd let the thing bringing in all the fujo money die.
they'll replace him with charcoal bunny and albino graha
He should’ve died in 5.3 and by-graha stay locked in the tower tbh
I wish he stayed dead in 5.3.
Good business move by SE tbh. They are also paid for deradicalization by 5 eyes, same with the XIV shills on this board. People thought ESG was bad, lol, when this is revealed in 10 years ESG will look like a joke.
>overhaul the graphics
>still use FMV for the trailer
They could have pulled a 1.0 and did a "powered with a relative supercomputer" inengine mo-capped cutscene for it and just casually mention it being realtime.
who?
sex with meteion
only good xiv doujin
OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE FUJO WRITERS INTRODUCE ANOTHER COOL HOT FEMALE CHARACTER AND HAVE THEM FRICK OFF IN THE EXPANSION NEVER TO RETURN OUTSIDE OF TOKEN APPEARANCES OR WORSE, DEAD BECAUSE GOD FORBID ANY OF THEIR ACTUAL HUSBANDOS FRICKING DIE
You have the option of playing a game with lots of what you want.
>Lilisette
But she DOES frick off at the end, never to see you ever again.
>He doesn't know
I don't know.
When they added a Lilisette trust quest you find out you can indeed interact with Lilisette again. You help her kill a certain beast terrorizing her timeline.
I miss M'Naago, my beloved.
>can't dress her up
that means she will return in the MSQ, right? right?
Built for femhroth futa wiener
>What's that? Another non-Hyur twink to slurp Meteor's BHC for all future expacs? Coming right up!
I mean Emet’s dead
guess 14gays can't use "we don't have troony voice actors" excuse when they're desperately trying to derail wow threads now. :^]
you need to have a wow thread up at all for it to be derailed anon-kun
>ranked is alive again
>queue up
>three Rumbling schizos on enemy team
Beat them without a sweat but I don't want to risk getting int'das retaliation.
The wait for next week's patch is torture. I want to grind the final Manderville step so fricking bad.
>grind
>manderville relic
i hate mmo tourists
If I can't get them all in one day, it's a grind.
Does that mean he autoblocked the SquareEnix/FFXIV twitters then?
Gold checkmarks are not blue checkmarks
The account still have a blue checkmark underneath it, going by the API, unless their blue-check blocker is set to ignore it if the business one is also present.
Here's my question
We haven't heard this characters voice acting yet, so why the frick is everyone so pissed off?
I mean, she said like 3 lines, Can't really tell if VA will be bad or not. you morons just want to doompost about literally fricking anything
because its a fricking troony.
You're appealing to morons that are looking for any reason at all, however slight, to pour jet fuel onto the whole thing and light it on fire, and then projectile defecate at the burning mess
I'm waiting to hear more lines, but most mtf trannies' voices don't pass, and I don't want to hear hours of some dude putting on his best woman impression.
>the hrothgar we're stuck with for most of the expansion is going to sound like Dr. Girlfriend
Some may find that sexy though.
I would get inside Dr. Girlfriend in a fricking heartbeat, same for Seth in Street Fighter 5
Pack-a-day voice is not a dealbreaker.
>she
He.
It’s post-election Ganker, why do you think everyone’s shit-flinging?
They've had a voice line in the trailer since the first trailer. Literally no one thought it WASN'T a girl. Thats the funniest part.
I thought it was a man talking
How does one start the week with island sanctuary? Just throw up whatever for the first cycle? I'm just starting to get into this now that there's not much else to do
>No one was able to tell it was a troony
>The first trailer with his voice released almost a year ago
Am I supposed to get mad about voice actors that do their jobs now? Because if thats the case, no one here would be playing any AAA game.
>No one was able to tell it was a troony
That's because everyone just assumed the voice belong to a male character.
>That's because everyone just assumed the voice belong to a male character.
Are you a tone deaf SEA monkey?
>Calling me tone deaf
I can hear a man's tone of voice, you're the one insisting a man sounds like a girl. He is a man, and we know he's a man, and yet you think someone else is tone deaf for hearing his male voice and thinking he is a man.
See above.
You're so fricking desperate anon, its not even funny.
Anon, you are the one sitting here and screaming at multiple people that a man's voice is a woman's. Who is the desperate one here?
Did you really think that voice wasnt male?
You HAVE to be ESL.
>I took one for the team and bought the book so I'll report back if there's anything useful in it
You're just a massive tsundere about wanting to read an isekai story
>furshit expansion
>the interesting job is relegated to dumper tier limited job (i.e. waste of time and effort)
>title sucks
>nothing sounds good about the xp
>trannies
"wow killer"
>interesting job
>beastmaster
I don't think you've got a leg to stand on in regards to b***hing about furshit, anon.
pictomancer looks pretty cool, it's going to be a spell speed caster like black mage
I really liked the computer areas they showed off too
>shut him down
>bought the book
>probably here
>this shit gets taken down
Holy schizo; leave with your larphomosexualry, no one here is (You)’re personal army
Is that random jumble of lines supposed to mean something?
if you think people that are otherwise normal can be talked into cutting off their penises that says more about you than trannies
>People
Kids, a grown person isn't vulnerable unless they're autistic or mentally ill (not like we shouldn't protect them too), but kids are really easy to mess with if you have authority, like a teacher, counselor etc. Every day in the US is a new case where parents are suing a school over turning their kid into a troony without their consent.
none of that has anything to do with a random voice actor on twitter. i'm going to stop responding to off topic shit now, i hope you one day find the peace within that so clearly eludes you.
You said someone cutting their dick off isn't a problem, I pointed out how those dickchoppers propagate their ideas and encourage vulnerable adults and kids to dickchop by assuming positions of authority, and now you are trying to deflect. This voice actor is a problem because HE is part of a political and social movement, and members of this movement engage in the behavior I have previously described. It's like saying 'not all communists' at me while some tankie is throwing molotov wienertails at a police car and the little homosexuals you're defending are cheering him on.
No one cares.
Good thing you replied to let everyone know how much you really don't care.
Not everyone just (You) since you want the attention so badly.
I can really feel how much you don't care. 🙂
>smiley face
Problem? ^_^
>More of them
Did I do something wrong? o///o
😉
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT that Beastmaster isn't even half-done.
They didn't even have concept art to show. Or... anything.
We're probably not getting it until like 7.2
They said late Dawntrail.
7.4 is my bet
Shit
Why are they showing something that will come out at least 1-2 years later?
Do they really have nothing to show for launch?
nta but they didn't show it, they just said it's comming. this was the part of the presentation detailing the more long term parts of the expansion patches.
I know thats its coming, but I feel like they had pretty much nothing to show since he spent like 10 minutes showing how they changed a word for german localization
>Do they really have nothing to show for launch?
unlike other games, they don't like to show dungeons, or zones that much, due their story relevancy
i'm not worried, EW had a bunch of surprises and DT will be no less
>i'm not worried, EW had a bunch of surprises and DT will be no less
Well yeah we got a troony and non binary lopporits
as a FFIV they were a nice surprise
>we got a troony
do you?
as a FFIV fan*
>Species made of literal magic
>Designed not to reproduce
>Essentially worker bots
>NOOO THEY NEED TO HAVE SEX
Them being without a sex makes sense. Them dabbling in the different masculine/feminine traits is a cute quirk in the same way a child would, with innocence and lacking the deeper meaning of it.
I get that kate fricks up a lot of shit with the wording, but I doubt the idea is much changed from what is intended. Your well is poisoned.
latter half of dawntrail was their say, i'd guess 7.3, 7.4 at the latest
They said "late" 7.x.
And im aware, i can wait, im sure there'll be plenty of fun content to mess with. I really am looking forward to getting the awesome FF bestiary under my belt. I hope Lyon is the class trainer. I also want to fantasia from male Hroth to female Hroth, but i think im going to be careful with the voice options with this recent development.
Cheers mate.
wasn't BLU released in like 4.5?
it's probably gonna release in 7.5
>7.2
You mean 7.5
>every pictomancer meme is the same shit
yeah it's the perfect job for artgays because they're all unoriginal as shit
>a guy who ERPs as a little girl and gets trapped in that body in an MMO
That actually sounds like the makings of comedy gold.
Alright. I was going to drop the game over this but I'll let it slide this time. But I'll be watching xiv like a hawk from now on. the second they get rid of the gender symbols in character creation, I'm out.
Is it a troon?
Yes.
Its over. Switching to Japanese audio but then unsubbing.
What's our name for this xp boiz? Shittrail? Diarheatrail?
am getting close to the do-xxes a few of the people shitting up the threads
one is trans and lives with his mom
proof?
>lives with his mom
So? A lot of people still live with their parents thanks to bidenflation.
what a godlike drawing ruined by a shitty colouring
I actually cancelled my sub when I saw that fricking dog lol
Who cares? games full of cheaters anyway
>been playing with jp audio for years
so how does this affect me and why should i care
It doesn't and you shouldn't. Post more sloths.
it doesn't at all and you have no reason to
DO NOT TELL BRO ABOUT THE DRAGONS
he will ignore anything wow related just because of one VA
ignore him back
Here's their lodestone
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/692755/
the first English VA who actually plays the game?
no, there's an asian one with glasses, can't remember the character
Respectable max level jobs.
working on omni-jobbing too, buh buh buh based
Hi Sena, stop having your discord post in 14 thread. We know you browse this site through your Twitter.
>Balmung
what's the matter, champ? never gotten your wiener sucked by a lalafell before?
>never gotten your wiener sucked by a lalafell before?
N-no
No, and that's a bad thing
bawdana.
c'monnnn greatm8 you gotta make more fricking lalafell stuff, you can't just shadow drop the best lalafell porn on the planet and then get its twitter suspended
weird he used twitter of all places and not pixiv
pixiv cracks down really hard about underaged "looking" stuff these days iirc, obviously huge amounts of it still floats under the radar but most of them fled to twitter
huh, i always thought that was the place to drop that kind of content
guess ive been living under a rock
rip i guess
See
Blame mastercard harassing them.
Last I've heard they've swapped over to something called misskey. Don't know how accurate that is since I'm personally not a fan though
Nah, pixiv leaves 2D stuff alone. They cracked down on 3D.
They're an OG from 1.28 wew
There's no such thing as 1.28 in 1.0.
I don't think 1.28 exists but they were around since 12/18/2011, so probably joined somewhere around the ARR announcement. Regardless, I kneel, they're a bigger oldgay than 99.99% of these threads are where the game is concerned.
Hi Sena, don't make it so obvious next time.
>female au ra
>raen
>vile colors
>in casual glamour
>in balmung
holy kek, come the frick on it's too perfect
>Lowest melee dps is monk
MNK confirmed chaddest job
I wish it still had its positionals.
SAMBROS!
>ruin cats
This reads exactly like the beginning of a forced fem f-list ERP.
>grins a bit
>cums a little
>grins cummingly
>((change your status, bawd))
lol
reminds me of the erp I did in sl
lyrans if real
Lyrans if transsexual.
love the fat ass on this one
Careful, anon, if a femroth catches you staring at her ass, she's legally allowed to marry you.
FF20 bros we've been called out......
>The man in me
heh
Is he right?
>tfw cant decide a new hairstyle for the expansion
Wuk Troonat
Brianna Wuk Lumat
>Fricking art trannies sending in hairstyles
>Not a single proper buzzcut besides one
>It loses
COME ON SQUARE.
he just like me fr
What the frick are all these cringe posts from?
The book written by Wuk Lamat's voice actor
Not worth the $4, Ethan didn't even mindbreak the sissy by the end. But at least I got this
How can you have an English degree and have such bad grammar
thanks blackrock, thanks HRC, VERY cool
Ethanbros I think /ourguy/ is actually conspiring to mindbreak Jesse into a perfect e-girl trap wife...
I'm very glad he became a voice actor, his writing is horrendous
How do we solve the lgbt epidemic?
simply stop giving them exactly the kind of attention they crave, you moron.
it's a self-victimization movement and you just keeping feeding them reasons to keep going.
Welp switching to JP from now on
I guess it really is a troony game now.
Am I supposed to know who this is
troony voice actor for a character in the new FFXIV expansion
why do you know that?
thankfully i never use english voices.
I was going to buy dawntrail and pay a 3month sub but if there is trannies in casting I am not resubbing. Guess I will just play Dragons Dogma 2 all year
TRANS RIGHTS
Which ones?
Holy fricking based that MCH is inspiring
frick parsers
Kinda fricked up that a cis woman role was taken by a trans woman...
>no word about it
>/pol/Black folk still complain
>the expansion is supposed to be mexcio/SA/NA
>spanish speaking actor play the role with a natural accent to enhance immersion
nuke polBlack folk.
Who are you quoting?
>implying there were zero spanish women to hire instead
Not even the first time they've done it, either. Sadu's english VA is spanish. (And she was also involved in softcore erotica IIRC)
Based.
All is forgiven.
lol why was this post deleted?
Apparently the VA of the female hrothgar wrote a comedy book about an mmo player being stuck in the body of his e-girl character, and anon is saying he's a e-girlcon.
However only election transplants are offended.
gee i wonder why the post looking for dirt and calling for cancellation got deleted
Thanks Kate.
>500+ posts
Never change, humanity
Bros, /wowg/ is laughing at us...
lol no they aren't, /wowg/ is struggling to even survive after a lot of people in it were tempbanned for talking about FFXIV whatsoever, nobody wants to talk about WoW in there and for good reason
>There's basically jack shit for lala porn
>Any lala porn that exists is always lala female with a male of another race
Male lalas really get thrown under the bus in both the game and the fandom huh
There was that one lala matrix instance that had plenty of male lala, with other lalas or races. But of course it died, it was intentionally shut down as was planned after a while.