>game is bad because.

>game is bad because…. It’s not Persona…

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can't type "ignorance" without IGN.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    persona is trash and smtv is fricking garbage, strange journey was the last good smt game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Name a better jrpg in recent years, it wasnt suck your wiener amazing but it was pretty good imo

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        DQ11

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I disagree

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >a game can only be bad, if there hasn't been a good game recently
        Do you even think about the shit you type?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Elden Ring.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Xenoblade

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      IV is better than SJ though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >How to say you are a purse owner gay without saying it
        Go back.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT A BORING FIRST-PERSON SLOG SO IT'S NOT REAL SMT!!!!!
          Cope

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Very original post anon

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i liked strange journey's dungeon crawling and story but the coop system sucked and encouraged you to build less diverse parties for the sake of keeping alignments all the same. the only boss that averted this was mem aleph and you just brought out different alignment demons for 1 turn to cheese her.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they gave it an 8 which is more than it deserves

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SMT5 isn't very good but not for whatever asinine reasons they mentioned

      Completely agreed

      persona is trash and smtv is fricking garbage, strange journey was the last good smt game.

      Strange Journey sucks donkey dick and I am upset for letting myself get talked into playing it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Strange Journey sucks donkey dick
        sorry about your dad injecting lead directly into his scrotum, tardbro

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          next he will post a pic of sector E

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            and thus will my point be proven

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This review has the same criticisms that would go on to be popular opinion among the fanbase. The reviewer was actually more positive than megaten fans too. And if the only megaten you’ve played is P5, you’d also be confused as to why the game had like 15 minutes of cutscenes, with cardboard cutout characters.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Megaten fans

      Megaten fans nearly called for a raid on these reviews. The schizos from /smtg/ aren't megaten fans, I don't know what they are.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    didn't really care that it was a SMT3 sequel, but I still enjoyed the game especially with Law Chad. Playing SMT5 after P5 felt refreshing, could actually play the game rather than deal with a VN.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Good track but I'll have to one up you

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the perfect "angel coming down to kick your ass" song

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Keyknow

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            STILL THE BEST
            2013

            This shit makes me smirk

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          STILL THE BEST
          2013

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This shit makes me smirk

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          SMIRK WAS MORE FUN THAN THE NEW SHIT
          THERE I SAID IT

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SMT5 was so bad that I bought the game and I still haven't finished it.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    troony protagonist, troony game, tranime, troony franchise, simple as. Japanese media is demonic and for gays.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >game is bad because it tops out at 20 fps

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Persona: Shin Megami Tensei the Five

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still convinced that people don't like the story because they can't string a sparse plot together

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think people don't like the story because the writers expect us to care about the Alignment Reps/Sahori/Tao/Yuzuru's disproportionately attractive sister/Best girl Gotou and yet nothing they do in the game endears them to us.
      Do you really care about Tsukuyomi's plan or Abdiel's breakdown?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think they're supposed to be entertaining, and they generally achieve that. "Endearing" is a character trait for persona. SMT characters are there to deliver plot.
        I liked Tsukuyomi's plan enough to pick his ending, and Abdiel is a good foil to better show off Lawchad.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Outside of Yakumo's raw edge and Dazai May Cry, I can't say I really felt the characters were all that entertaining. Most of the time I felt that a lot of the shit going on especially related to Yuzuru or Sahori could have been skipped and Yuzuru specifically got the short end of the stick as he literally never changes throughout the game so he stays as an uninteresting goon to Tsukuyomi.
          Dazai to his credit evolves as a character and becomes unbelievably based by the end of the game but this just serves to contrast that everyone else just isn't.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Thought Dazai would be a hoyboy
            >Just ended up being a lawgay

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'll give SMTV credit, they did frick us around a little by making the super edgy world of STR guy the Neutral Rep, the kind but bland motherfricker the Chaos Rep and then full on Vergil as the Law Rep.
              It's nice to see the Law and Neutral reps using a Chaos approach to dealing with the demon question.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Tsukuyomi himself was interesting just by virtue of him being a twin of the Protofiend, although it's a pity that nothing really came of that, at least in his own ending.
            that would leave all of the alighnment pairs with at least some amount of foil. Every other human is there to set up the setting, from what i remember.

            The thing that stood out to me was how the dialogue would shift from incredibly bland to incredibly strong vocabulary choices, over the course of a few sentences. I don't know how much of it was translation fuzz, but it seemed like it was intentionally trying to confuse the player, usually right before they have to form an opinion or make a decision. Gave me some food for thought.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Tsukuyomi himself was interesting just by virtue of him being a twin of the Protofiend
              Hmm...I suppose that must be a you thing because I didn't really care that they were related. It didn't really affect the Protofiend and his decisions in any way, he just continued to stay loyal to the Beano even when it could be reasonably assumed that any Susano'o remnants left in the mind would sway him towards Tsukuyomi's viewpoint.
              I think the Kunitsu actually do a better job of selling us on Chaos. You have to go in and beat up a bunch of really strong overworld bosses then Arahabaki THEN the Shittenno then the Kunitsu group themselves, they even offer for you to join them and yet they just end up as a one off mention of joining the Amatsu in the final dungeon even though Okuninushi's offer after such a long side quest would really have been a nice faction to join.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              can you give examples?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Two, off the top of my head.

                >Sometime near the end of Lahmu's arc, when he's lamenting over the girl's anger
                >The last conversation you have with Nuwa in the last open zone
                Both times have the characters suddenly using actually interesting word choice. There's probably a better way to describe it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Holy cope. Why wouldn't SMT benefit from endearing chars? Either make them real chars or have it be a true isolation sim.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The game is about capturing and collecting demons and fusing them together. It's like pokemon but with fusing stuff.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, the human characters are mostly low-key (Dazai and Yakumo do manage to stand out though), but the demon characters are excellent, Abdiel and Tsukiyomi are both charismatic and have great lines.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      People don't like the plot because it's underdeveloped. It really does seem like the original version of SMT3 where a lot of stuff was just dropped and not explained at all and character's fates were just up in the air.

      One of the main friend group's story is regulated to a side quest and the bombshell she's going to die from some chronic illness is just dropped on you out of nowhere. It's weird and strikes me as they wanted to do more with these characters but ran out of time or money.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        People die of chronic illnesses every day, there's nothing wrong with adding this to a game.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think his issue is that it's out of nowhere. You have to literally do the entirety of the Khonsu-Ra questline which is end game content just to learn about it and how it affects Khonsu's motivations as someone who is important due to being the Egyptian representative of Bethel and the Egypt faction in general.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >she's going to die from some chronic illness is just dropped on you out of nowhere
        Didn't she say she needs to go to the hospital all the time? Did you not talk to her when she was in the nurse's office?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a form of mob mentality. V was goty on Ganker last year, it was a hugely popular release which invites contrarians. Once a half truth sticks that's what gets repeated adnaseum.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The story is shit anon. Every SMT game has a shit story. I hope they move past this alignment crap.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I hope they move past this alignment crap.
        Terrible take. Alignment and SMT are synonymous.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SMT games are not 10/10 masterpieces bro.
      >all copied and pasted with a linear first 90% of the game and then an alignment check at the last minute to pretend there's replay value
      >it's turn based so there's zero skill element and you just need to do the proper prepwork for bosses and any "difficulty" is rng
      >every SMT game is heavily reliant on levels for its accuracy and damage formulas so they're grind heavy, which means even less skill is involved
      >same fricking demon progression every game
      >new entries are usually just one new mechanic and the rest is the same. Imagine if Pokemon had the same pokemon in every game.
      >dungeon design filled with timewaster hallways with random encounters to pad the game length like every "old" JRPG. New ones let you see the random encounters but you need the levels so you grind anyway.
      >characters are always obvious stand ins for the routes
      >story is nonexistent and they try some reddit terms like "minimalism" or this loser even though characters go on massive anime motive rants which is the OPPOSITE of minimalist storytelling
      >fanbase is nonstop dickswinging that their favorite easy game is harder than someone else's easy game. Most obvious with SJ gays who think stripping even more shit out of the series is better.
      They're just comfy shit that you play every few years so you forget how formulaic they are. If you ever try to play them one after the other the flaws hit you in the face with a golf club.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        t. has never played smt

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >every SMT game is heavily reliant on levels for its accuracy and damage formulas so they're grind heavy, which means even less skill is involved
        I hear this meme a lot yet I'm playing SMTV right now and I can take on bosses that are like 9 levels higher than my level 60 party, I don't have terrible accuracy or anything

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Persona is bad because it’s not Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >empty desert and no story is good because... IT JUST IS OKAY????

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's not empty and the layout is actually very well designed. Captures the real world Japan topography and manages to have organic complexity most similar JRPGs lack.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was just super boring.
    Difficulty falls off a cliff after the first world because you can completely trivialize it super fast, almost every single member of the cast is shit, the story is both terrible and uninteresting, the worlds were crap and the dungeons managed to be worse than IV's.
    They took nocturne, kept all of its flaws and then fricked up what it does well.
    If the dungeons and levels were good at least it would have been salvageable at least, but not even that.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    8 is a good score though
    And also more than it deserves for being so repetitive

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's a 10/10 for me. Best turn based RPG ever

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        whatever

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >t. tries to draw Garu

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >game is bad because….it's not on Switch...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I was never a big fan of Soul hackers in general to start with

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Which is better, this or SMTV?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        SMTV is better without question unless the terrible frame rate is a dealbreaker.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        SMT V is a good if not great game with some elements that confuse/frustrate people. SH2 isn't a good game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It also plays like a game from 2004, and that’s not a compliment.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's bad because the combat and dungeons suck. Such a boring game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Soul Hackers 2 is a massive downgrade from TMS. Ishida's team is a bunch of hacks who cannot get anything right they missed the point of what makes Fire Emblem, SMT, Soul Hackers and hell even Persona great.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this game is irrelevant. no one is begging for a port of it like they were for Persona 5. It's rarely every discussed unlike Persona 5 which always has a thread on the catalog.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I bought a Switch just to play SMTV. I don’t beg for a port because I’m not a poorgay.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, I dropped it 5h in because it was the first SMT that did nothing to hook me.
    It felt like a Nocturne copy but twink edition.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why do Atlus even bother making games besides Persona?
    Everything else flops, no one cares about SMT or Souls Hackers or even Catherine

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because every Persona games got a better story.

    SMT doesn't even have a basic story except first game.
    Just copy some story from 80s B rated movie.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    its bad because its worse than Nocturne, IV, IV:A, and Strange Journey

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Thats correct, persona is the only good smt series.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, game is bad because it didn't feature Dante from the devil may cry series.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    smt 5 is bad because it's a laggy piece of shit that runs at 5fps despite looking like a PS2 game

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yes, problem smtroony?

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's pretty sad for SMT fans that this game came out after Persona 5. It's pretty fricking embarrassing in comparison. Like Compile Heart going up against GTA or something.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      V is much better than P5 though.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I like the game but I just wish it was more like IV and less like Nocturne story/setting-wise.
    Here's to hoping they use SMT5 as a base to make a bunch of spin offs, I personally want tbh3 but I know it's literally neverever

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >SMT V sucked
    >Soul Hackers 2 was irredeemable trash
    >Re:imagine servers were shut down
    >P3P

    Atlus has been pretty gay the last few years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Was soul hackers that bad?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No, it was fun.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        SMT V is at least fun to play and has pretty varied music, SH2 does neither

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So, SMT V has level scaling out the ass right? Or did I forget how SMT games worked. I'm two or three levels down on hydra demon and his toxic breath near wipes me. Winnable though I figured out you just have to guard when he gets Magatsushi or w/e its called.

    Framerate of this game is abysmal but running around sand dunes is fun and its really pretty. Demon fusion feels a little nerfed, am I wrong or did SMT IV have way more demons you could fuse at any one time? Also why is it when you recruit demons their stats change from what they were when you were against them? just got Tschugimo and the fricker had 200 hp against me and 100 with me.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Framerate of this game is abysmal but running around sand dunes is fun and its really pretty.

      Hope you're ready for that to be the entire game.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah no I already understood that if the first area, aka the first impression they make on you, has this low framerate it will be the entire game. I think i was just surprised at how bad it was though. Like, it genuinely seems to run at 15 fps in some cutscenes. I can get past it if the gameplay and soundtrack are good but was still really surprised they couldn't make a locked 30 game.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I meant the desert bit as well. Every zone is a desert of a different color.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            okay that's actually funny as frick, didn't know that. hope the colours are pretty at least!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      level is a part of the damage calculation, which is a first.
      it's still doable if you have the right strat, like you found, but it's something new to adjust to like always.get dampeners.
      you're still on effectively the first few levels of the caves below Mikado in terms of how far you are through the story, so don't expect a lot of demons yet.
      I think there are probably a good amount less overall comapred to IV, though.
      and yes, boss versions have a lot more health.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nocturne and DDS have the exact same level scaling. Worse actually since the formulas in those games actively work against you.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yep also figured out dampeners will be key, bought some but didn't have time to try again today.

        SMT V has level scaling but it's only minor effect until you're 10+ levels away from the enemy. Toxic Breath would frick you up regardless of if you were 3 levels above him. Use dark dampers to block it or guard. Or put him to sleep. There are less demons in the game but they're much better designed mechanically and you have much much better customization.

        anon you just helped me figure out Poison attacks are dark, I thought they were a separate category of attacks that you couldn't dampen, thanks!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          they are a seperate category in general, i think. it's just that that attack is a dark attack that poisons.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          There's a Status poison and Dark attacks that inflict poison. The important distinction is the icon that the attack has.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Only Toxic Breath and Profaned Land are darkness attacks, most poison skills are only affected by the status resistance.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah levels are more important than stats. Even a single level is enough to give you an edge in a fight. It's by far my biggest complaint about the gameplay itself and makes the Lucifer battle a joke after you work at beating Shiva.

      You'd think the guy that consumed YHVH's knowledge would have been the most powerful opponent in the game, but nope.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Lucifer is depressed and wants you to kill him. Nahobino is also essentially God at that point.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SMT V has level scaling but it's only minor effect until you're 10+ levels away from the enemy. Toxic Breath would frick you up regardless of if you were 3 levels above him. Use dark dampers to block it or guard. Or put him to sleep. There are less demons in the game but they're much better designed mechanically and you have much much better customization.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I just killed Lamuh, how far into it i am?
    Been having a blast with it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there's, what, five zones, and that's, what, the third?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there's, what, five zones, and that's, what, the third?

      There's 4 sectors, but I'd say Lahmu is actually a little before the middle. A lot of sidequests open up towards the end.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    its bad because there is no native pc port

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >there is no actual final dungeon
    >you literally walk through a straight fricking staircase and fight the alignment bosses
    >the final boss of the true neutral route is MASSIVELY EASIER than shiva, who you have to beat to unlock the true neutral route
    i'm still mad, what the FRICK were they thinking?
    otherwise though it was pretty fun

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's bad because it's too much like Persona. Has all the bad parts with none of the good parts, while also lacking what makes SMT good too.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally nothing like Persona. It's like the antithesis of Persona, it has like 5 minutes opening then it drops you in hell and just leaves you to your own devices for 15 hours

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SMTV felt like a tech demo. Atlus just need to build upon the open world, side quests and exploration in a post apocalyptic Tokyo like SMT1, 2 or 4 and just expand on the story and characters it will be great.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Basically.

    >what if we took everything people play Persona for out and made a game about the rest

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Strange Journey was a masterpiece. Why every SMT game after this looks like stupid anime for kids?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kaneko quit doing new art for SMT, the games that came after sold better than previous entries so there's been no impetus for the art style to change much.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I fricking hate doi's demon designs for the most part. Some them like mermaid are good but 90% of them are just man in rubber suit.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SMTV has the base for an amazing game, they just needed to add some more proper content to it (non-DLC). Maybe once they rerelease it or make a sequel it'll have more stuff.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's bad because it's trying to be persona. I miss old SMT. Kaneko taking a backseat and not doing art anymore was the death of the franchise.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How is it anything like Persona beyond elements that are common to every megaten?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You walked into a school. Now morons that know nothing will scream persona.

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why was this so formulaic
    >BIG AREA -> story -> small dungeon -> story -> BIG AREA -> story -> small dungeon -> story -> ...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If only, they didn't have nearly enough dungeon sections.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Now that 5 has been out for a while, where does it rank here?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      5>3>4A>2>4>1

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why did you skip if..., Nine, and Strange Journey?
      And yes, those games are part of mainline, they explicitly mentioned in the 25th anniversary presentation trailer.
      Besides, including 4A but not SJ? Lol

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Why did you skip if..., Nine, and Strange Journey?
        Because they're utter shit!

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    modern gaming "journalism" needs to cease

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >From impression point of view, since this illustration will be widely released on the day of the release of "Shin V," I imagined the main character, a boy, joining with Aogami and becoming Nahobino for the first time. Since it's his first "experience" of being unified (laughs) (Uses the phrase 初体験 which means "first sexual experience") I aimed at an expression at the depth of which the viewer can read various emotions, and these coupled, makes for an illustration that expresses the "tanbi" aesthetic (feminine male beauty) and ennui charm of the protagonist.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well, it is a fact that except for exactly four games, all bad games are not persona.

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