Guns in video games

What went wrong? Video games told me the XM8 was supposed to US army's next service rifle. Did Ghost recon, MGS4, Rainbow six Vegas 2 and battlefield bad company 2 lied to me? MW2 also lied to me about special forces using ACR and Task force 141 being real!

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_XM8

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you mean Task force 141 not real? I’m pretty sure they existed during the second Iraq war.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF 121 was real
      TF 141 is fiction

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >A bunch of AAA GARBAGE ® where you tank hit like a cheater at an airsoft match and everything is highlighted like it's an explora dora episode.

    Found your issue right here senpai, have you tried not been a bitch and go for red orchestra, rising storm, swat, verdun/ Tannenberg, insurgency,OG operat flashpoint, ready or not, etc?

    Not mentioning semi casual camp snipe meta looting sims like tarkov and dayZ...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hurr those games aren't realistic
      >play these games that try to pretend to be realistic but really aren't instead
      yeah

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Samefagging goalpost thrower
        >Obvious >>>/v bait thread

        None of the game I listed are easily played with a xbox controller+ aimassist combo, and you don't have a red marker telling you from where you get shot at, sorry pal, go fap on overwatch futa sfm to dose off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he seriously thinks video games that try to market themselves as realistic aren't still massively unrealistic
          Try watching videos of what real world military firefights look like, or take a step back and consider how absolutely ridiculous the number of people you've killed without dying in single player games is even after being modded for "more realism". Whether a game is meant to be played sitting at a desk with a keyboard and mouse, or relaxing on your couch with a controller is the least of your concerns when it comes to realism.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he seriously thinks video games that try to market themselves as realistic aren't still massively unrealistic
          Try watching videos of what real world military firefights look like, or take a step back and consider how absolutely ridiculous the number of people you've killed without dying in single player games is even after being modded for "more realism". Whether a game is meant to be played sitting at a desk with a keyboard and mouse, or relaxing on your couch with a controller is the least of your concerns when it comes to realism.

          And I'm not OP. The answer to his question is that video games show off cool different guns to keep shit interesting rather than being realistic and having you use the exact same gun in every game when it comes to modern military shooters.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the case of tom clancy games, they're usually set a few years in the future, so the devs try to predict which current prototypes will be used then. Also they're french.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the case of tom clancy games, they're usually set a few years in the future, so the devs try to predict which current prototypes will be used then. Also they're french.

            Hmm

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wholesome picture

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A bunch of AAA GARBAGE ® where you tank hit like a cheater
      You have never played a ghost recon game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, predator maybe, go launch Wildlands now and tell me this this series hasn't descended into babysteps console casu garbage with a straight face Anon.

        It might not have been pozzed up to the point of operation flashpoint, splinter cell or Hitman levels of geh but still...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shit, I forgot Wildlands existed. But all the way up to GRAW it usually took a shot to put your character out of commission and I think there was localized damage and everything. Same with the older rainbow six games.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The downhill trend in the series had to be with Future Soldier. I still liked the game but god damn could you tank shots in the survival mode and campaign. At least in the multiplayer you died like a normal person

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Wanking on plastic fantastic 556 derivative
    >Ok boomer
    >All of the games quoted in op are 2008-2015
    >All of mine were 2010-2020, barring for 2001 operation flashpoint and ready or not indev early access
    >Muh fartpexGaygentsNite©

    This is your brain on unskilled lama aimassist console juice.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish Ubisoft would stop being gay and go back to making good games like back in the day. Raven Shield and Splinter Cell were the best.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >tarkov
    >dayZ
    >boomer shooters
    I don't think you know what that term means.
    Heh, Duke 3D, now THAT'S a video game. TWO ALIEN WARS

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >ok boomer
    dude just thought a jank as fuck old Tom Clancy game played like an AAA PS3 title, he's underage

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am I really the only one who grew up knowing these games were just pretend?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, you're very smart and special, and the only one in the world, Timmy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Apparently so.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would seem he is, considering the amount of retards on Ganker who unironically cited BF3 and MW2 when expressing their surprise at the Russian incompetence and corruption of the last 6 months. Even a passing familiarity with Russian military performance since the end of the cold war would have extinguished any videogame delusions that they could threaten western Europe, let alone the US mainland; and yet Ganker was apparently blindsided.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, Discovery Channel and Popular Mechanics told us the future will be like this.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GHOST RECON 1 was a blast, although at the end it turned into a whole spearheaded assault and forgotten the concept of a dispatched team of GBs infilling and exfilling

    I almost want to learn game programming so I can make a remake/style game mixed with MGS5 style gameplay and mission planning and cool shit like that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To this day my buddy and I get blackout drunk and play the split screen GR and Island Thunder co-op on the Xbox brick. Shit is so cash. I wish Desert Siege was on there

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ghost recon fascinating. It feels like a game set in the 90s but accurate predicated future events.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tom Clancy was kinda eyeballing his way through pseudo realistic near future military theme dramas, he threw so many ideas to the wall that some stick and some didn't, he got a lot of things right about submarines and stealth aircraft, and that kind of made his legacy, but in geopolitics and small arms he stumbled a lot. For example, in the sum of all fears he predicted a meltdown between Israel and Palestine due to an Israeli police officer killing a non violent Palestine protester on camera... To solve the meltdown the US president holds talks with envoys from Russia, Arab countries, Europe and the pope in the Vatican, with the aim to deploy the swiss guard to protect Jerusalem and deescalate tension, baffling as this scenario is today, everybody goes along and Jerusalem became this kind of holy utopia, but the part that really made me stop reading, apart from the long winded chapters about the president thoughts and his affair with an employee that goes fucking nowhere, was the 10mm Berettas carried by the elite CIA team

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm quite nostalgic of early 2000s military games that featured Commanche helicopters and XM29 OICWs in them.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fishgun lives on in our hearts

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >four F-22 Raptors thunder in and obliterate the enemy armor
    >using a dedicated air-superiority fighter for CAS
    what did they mean by this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >inb4 some retard mentions SDBs which weren't out yet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>inb4 some retard mentions SDBs which weren't out yet
        I mentioned them

        >what did they mean by this
        "F-22 is fucking cool and TECHNICALLY it can in fact carry SDBs so..."

        Or on the opposite side of the pond, Ace Combat has had the F-22 as a top tier regular plane for a long time. It's certainly not the go-to CAS and the games themselves generally heavily feature missions where air is the primary or exclusive battle, but they do let you equip SDBs on it and soup the thing into a so-so ground attacker if you want for some reason.

        and it's a fucking video game from 2004 man, the F-35 was still just a twinkle, the F-22 was the existing "super cool next gen aircraft" and like the only one. Using a still under development but real armament project and putting it in is a pretty tiny sin by vidya or movie standards. I can think of other games from that era with F-22s where they just slapped laser canons on them or something.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >where they just slapped laser canons on them or something.
          generals zero hour was a fun ass game though. granted toxin general was probably my favorite not aircraft general.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same line of thinking where they have modern jets gun strafing Godzilla close enough to be swatted by his tail. Weapon stand off range is not a thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what did they mean by this
      "We already made the F-22 model for something else, we're not paying for another one."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what did they mean by this
      "F-22 is fucking cool and TECHNICALLY it can in fact carry SDBs so..."

      Or on the opposite side of the pond, Ace Combat has had the F-22 as a top tier regular plane for a long time. It's certainly not the go-to CAS and the games themselves generally heavily feature missions where air is the primary or exclusive battle, but they do let you equip SDBs on it and soup the thing into a so-so ground attacker if you want for some reason.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    frig off, I play the absolute fuck out of DayZ and Rising Storm 2

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any Legalfags here?
    Can I use a Gun Name / Model in
    >a novel
    >a movie
    >a video game
    I don't really understand how copyright laws work in these cases. I've been playing Resident Evil 3 which had original gun names, like the SigPro. Then I played the remake which removed any mention of real gun brands (I wonder what the mysterious Full Auto "G18" is based on)
    Did they do that for legal reasons? I doubt they got the licensing 20 years ago but I don't think they've been sued or anything.
    And what if I'm in a different country than the company producing the guns?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Yukari

      Gun companies will fuck you in the ass if you try to put one of their guns with their name in your game without their permission.
      It's why there has never been a "Glock" in any game.
      Also, GRAW was fun. Remember GRAW? Remember 15 years ago?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's why there has never been a "Glock" in any game
        Dino Crisis has the Glock 34 that you can convert to a Glock 35

        • 3 weeks ago
          Yukari

          do they call it a Glock or is it called "G34" or something similar?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://dinocrisis.fandom.com/wiki/Glock_35
            They call it a Glock as in Gaston Glock

            • 3 weeks ago
              Yukari

              >Japan, 1999
              I'm going to go ahead and guess that Glock wasn't interested in suing a company in Japan 25 years ago for that. Because Insurgency had to change their Glock name and model, Battlefield has never had a Glock name on their guns, shit I can remember playing ancient Xbox games where the Glocks are labeled something else

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What went wrong?
        Rule of cool. Next!

        Postal 2 has a glock, called "glock", being the only other pistol type weapon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol. You can't copyright physical design. Design patents are 20 years at most too but wouldn't apply to digital. Trademark could come into play but only if it'll cause consumer confusion, and still has a number of exceptions.

        Of course anyone can sue anyone for anything and with rare exceptions you will always pay your own fees, so as a practical matter it may not be a battle worth fighting. But no you do not need a gun maker's permission to use a model in your own production nor to call it what it is in a purely descriptive manner. If you had the resources and chose to fight in court you'd win.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Yukari

          But game companies almost always choose not to in the last 2 decades?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      short answer is no
      basically it comes down to the fact that you're making money off their products, or image of products, and the long noses won't be having any of that nonsense.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        stop sucking corp dick over make believe IP rights that don't exist. Using your own property to make a movie does not infringe patents or trademark. Using the name in a story doesn't either. Nor does using your own model in a game. Whether you make money or not is irrelevant.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its a byproduct of game development become much more corporate, companies are just playing it safe nowadays but 20 years ago when teams were smaller and the whole industry was a lot more indie; nobody cared. The number of actual precedents are limited and tend to favor the developers (the Humvee case is a landmark), as long as trademarks aren't used. For example: MP5 is not a trademark, but H&K is. But in 2022 when publishers have whole teams of paranoid lawyers, they play it extra safe so you end up with ridiculous fake names for guns that were never trademarked or are so ubiquitous as to be public domain, like AKs

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are the any good Ganker related single player shooters that allow you to reasonably opt for stealth or other play styles that aren't being a one man army? A lot of games I've played where there are other options still regularly push you toward over the top one man army combat even when you're trying to avoid it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think ghost recon breakpoint encourages stealth more since being in combat for too long increases the chance of having to heal wounds

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will always mourn her passing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait Ubisoft didn't make up the M8 Sniper and LMG? Holy shit I've been bamboozled this whole time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >TFW even in 2022, the Malaysian are still using the XM8

      https://twitter.com/amiruddinarif_/status/1564971633403518976?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember playing that exact ghost recon, HOLY FUCKING SHIT WAS IT ABSOLUTE TRASH.

    That shit was stupid wonky, and enemies spawns were stupid predictable, the pacing was terrible, at least SOCOM had a steady pace and better controls but who the fuck would want to play a shitty mil sim clone of cod when cod was good? (Every single cod after world at war is not worth talking about)

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