GW is having a lot of supply issues with their kits, stock and releases lately. Could this be because they are devoting lots of production to The Old World? Is this going to be a huge release?
GW is having a lot of supply issues with their kits, stock and releases lately.
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Who gives a shit, it's going to be garbage, and probably based in the same core setting as Age of Smegmar.
Nope. They even asked people which version of the original Warhammer Fantasy to follow.
Not to mention people can and will use their old armies. No AoS rules so stop spewing disinformation.
? It's s3t well before end times, they've said this multiple times
Its because they fucking suck at writing rules and can't make a good game out of it that resembles their new streamlined approach to games where they strip out all the character and flavour of armies and turn them all into generic grey mush. WHFB just has too much soul for them to handle. Look at how bland Kislev and Cathay are in TWW3 compared to any other faction.
Didn't you try to push this in the AoS general and got completely fucking ignored?
No on every count. Gw are cunts. Am I supposed to feel good that they are putting the entire discontinued high elf range back into production?
They could have just not stopped producing it then. They could have rented the sprues to another production company selling no longer supported gw sculpts.
It's honestly better to learn all the moulds are broken than learn they killed fantasy and made bretonion plastic cost an arm and a leg on the after market than learn that they have just been hoarding the moulds.
Old world seems like its going to be shit. Its not even set at the end times like we would want.
>Its not even set [in a completely different setting] like we would want.
8/8 but the fact that you bumped gave it away
Basically every fantasy fan knows that the best way to bring fantasy back is to have Teclis or another big name who survived the end times to see a way to undo the end times.
So you have Teclis in age of sigmar do some crazy shit to go back to the end times with prior knowledge and stop chaos from winning. Have the connection to the Realms in age of sigmar cut off and leave the "old world" in its own pocket with the potential for crossover in the way 40k and fantasy used to have.
Age of sigmar is simply what happens if chaos won, the old world could be what happens if chaos won but Teclis does time fuckery and prevents total chaos victory. You still have chaos be inevitable.
Then you continue the story and setting, hopefully in a mostly stagnant place from there. Having the major powers shaken and chaos failing to win but still shaking the world a lot.
This satisfies nu fans who like age of sigmar, because it cannonises it and crosses it over into the old world without corrupting either game setting wildly.
The end times had some of the best/Newest plastic kits and gw will want to use them. Basically setting the new game at the end of 8th/end times but with the world continuing on instead of ending would be the best way to bring it back.
I despise the idea of playing a fucking historical warhammer fantasy battles game with nothing mattering because in 150 years age of sigmar happens. Having younger stupider versions of immortal characters and new named characters who probably just die of old age sucks
>I despise the idea of playing a fucking historical warhammer fantasy battles game with nothing mattering because in 150 years age of sigmar happens.
Get over it, that's what's happening
I'm over it because I won't be engaging with it. I'll continue to build my high elves for my own sake
He could just not play, which sounds like what he’s doing
Better yet, I'll play something else.
>Basically every fantasy fan knows that the best way to bring fantasy back is to have Teclis or another big name who survived the end times to see a way to undo the end times.
This but with Nagash because having the objective villain do it would be funnier
Haha that would be funny. Let him bring a few bone reapers with him too because they are scaled to fantasy not aos. Can be his elite guys
You don't need to "undo" the end times you fucking mongoloid. You need to realize that Age of Smegmar and Warhammer Fantasy are completely separate settings, with different cosmology and different base assumptions.
Literally all you need to "bring Fantasy back" is to start producing content for Fantasy as it was left off after Storm of Chaos. But, being a fan of Warhammer Fantasy, I don't want GW to do that, because I don't want GW to utterly ruin Warhammer Fantasy in the way they ruined Warhammer 40k. I want them to fuck off, go and stay go.
Could any real person possibly have taste this shitty?
>nothing mattering because in 150 years age of sigmar happens
You're that guy who whines about Chaos in every thread, aren't you? Fuck, you are the worst person on this entire board, and I'm including the chud raiders.
Lmao imagine thinking disliking chaos doom Jerking makes you all the same person.
And my taste is great. You are HAPPY old world is set a couple of generations before fantasy battles and know everything that will happen and who will die and that it all ends in age of sigmar
>You are HAPPY old world is set a couple of generations before fantasy battles and know everything that will happen and who will die and that it all ends in age of sigmar
I am apathetic to it. It doesn't even enter into my mind as I play actual games in the time that is right now, and will never advance to any other event than the next battle.
>NOOO IT'S NO FUN UNLESS MY GUYS CAN BE THE EPIC HEROES THAT SAVE THE WORLD AND WIN THE SETTING!
>NOOO IT'S NO FUN UNLESS MY GUYS CAN BE THE EPIC HEROES THAT BEAT THE WORLD AND WIN THE SETTING!
that's literally chaos tho
Not really man. The corrupting influence of Chaos is just part and parcel of the grimdark, forlorn hope setting and a major part of WHFB's distinct aesthetics. I think you should try a different wargame. Conquest has similar themes and gameplay without evil being the ultimate victor.
It literally is tho chuck, chaosfags are retards for a reason and it's sad that they can't be honest with themselves
Corruption influence and Chaos always wins hurr durr are different things.
nta but I think you can have grimdark without the setting's ending being predetermined and dated. tbh that sounds boring and also it's copped out because they get reborn as AoS characters anyway, so it's not even that grimdark.
That's a completely overcomplicated and unnecessary change, there's literally no reason why AoS shouldn't just be the continuation of the story besides your hatred of it
Teclis is literally a god now. Why would he reset the clock? I guess maybe the shard of Nagash in his mind would corrupt him over time, and he would try to reset that...?
Nagash is way more powerful than he could ever be in fantasy so there's no reason for him to want to go back either
I think Nagash is arrogant enough to think that it would all play it out just the same again but this time he would know Sigmar was going to trick him, so I see him time travelling as just marginally more probable than Teclis.
If it's because they're devoting lots of production to something that something would be 40k 10th edition
Post your models Gankerirgin
You wouldn't even know that this franchise existed if total war hadn't released
You do realise AoS sells much better than fantasy ever did so your retarded idea is too retarded even for GW
It didn't sell that good before they made it cheaper.
My method literally keeps aos and fantasy Alive
So does GW's
>Then you continue the story and setting, hopefully in a mostly stagnant place from there
The entire problem with fantasy was the fact that it was completely stagnant you mongoloid
And then 8th and end time happened and it died
And now it's coming back, and instead of sitting there rotting they're going back and exploring parts of the setting that were never properly explored. This is literally the perfect scenario
150 years ago isn't special, it's fucking lame.
Nothing's stopping you from playing 8th if you're this much of a bitch about it
Im not playing the old world you mk ultra victim
You're not playing anything other than total war
you have brain damage, no wonder you like chaos and warfag
must be tough
Such a pathetic scape goat. You think those secondaries care what century the game is set in?
Fantasy battles revival could have made good on the botched destruction of said game, by reversing the worst decision ever (killing the world entirely)
It could be done in a way that let's ais exist and allows fantasy to actually be a game. Instead of some pseudo historical shit with all that it entails.
the game was always pseudo-historical, until end times the only advancement of the plot was introduction of Mordheim...and that was in the past too.
The problem with fantasy was that they only started building up one conflict that ended up overtaking the rest of the setting instead of having multiple ongoing conflicts and gently reshaping parts of the setting over time as they wanted to add new ideas.
That;'s only a problem, for ADD retards who need constant new releases.
It works best as a setting to tell your own stories in.
>consumerist retards excited for TOW
Just play 6th edition or earlier like everybody with taste. The rules will be shit, any new art or models will be shit.
>I despise the idea of playing a fucking historical warhammer fantasy battles game with nothing mattering because in 150 years age of sigmar happens.
As opposed to the original WHFB? Where the setting didn't move or do anything for its entire lifespan bar one attempt that was swiftly retconned?
Oh but when you bring that up as a beneficial point towards AoS grogs and secondaries will whinge about how storylines don't matter to a wargame.
WHFB was a decent setting that didn't offer a lot of interesting idea's, people will go on for days about how much better the lore was and how much more indepth it all was, but never actually expand on that point, because its fucking bullshit. The game system itself blew chunks and so will the old world if its trying to recapture the original tabletop feel. I cannot wait for all the spergs who got salty over a setting they only really missed once it was gone to not even bother with this terrible project GW are funneling resources into.
>Where the setting didn't move or do anything for its entire lifespan bar one attempt that was swiftly retconned?
both storms of chaos were worldwide store events
you don't know this because you're a child who didn't play at the time
>bar one attempt that was swiftly retconned?
>storms of chaos
Oh jeeze boss, no way.
>ignoring the other global campaigns because you don't know they happened since you're underage
>realising after a quick google search that muh storms of chaos were swept under the rug in no time, revealing yourself as a stolen valor grognard
>start talking about other global campaigns(doesn't mention any by name) ((they were all unimportant to the world at large and served no purpose to upset the status quo of the world))
larp more child no one cares
shut up nasty Gankertards
>get told and corrected because you're a dumb know-nothing gay
>scream and cry
>Manages to scrape together 1(one) incredibly minuscule gameplay change impacted by 1(one) incredibly minor thing in the lore
>get TOLD KIDDY
You're trying too hard.
>something off the top of my head
>let all armies take giants
also all slayer armies were introduced with storm of chaos chuckie
another fundamental gameplay change
Whiiich were quickly unsupported and made illegal once the campaign ended and got swept under the rug.
Incredible fundamental changes in the old world. lol.
>reintroduced in AoS because GW literally has no ideas
oof another L for the kiddo
>Slayer armies get more support in AoS then they ever did in WHFB.
Yeah, real big L I guess.
>introduced through a global campaign that you claim never added anything
>became a major faction
hold the L
>shares nothing but a loose thematic with the WHFB version (thank god)
>"hold the L"
Showing your true age now funny little fella
>trying to pretend he's not a child
use your own material chuck, be the GW you dream about
>got btfo'd so bad he had to hold the L
lmao yea I would run too bitchtits
if you play gw games you're probably retarded
you lost, son
are slayer armies not in aos now?
reminder that Archaon also comes from storm of chaos lmmmmmmmmao
go for a bike ride bitchtits
Archaon was introduced a couple of years before the storm of chaos event boss
and was elevated in the campaign narrative to be the leader of all the chaos armies
thanks for playing fatty
He was literally always described as the lord of the end times
yea and some dicks were called "LE WORLD EATER" and other shit you autistic retard
OK but its still means that storm of chaos didn't introduce him as you claim it to be, which wouldnt make sense because storm of chaos was entirely retconned because the old was shit and change wasn't allowed to happen lol
it introduced him as a major character before that princes and shit were more important
again you have no clue because you're a child and you didn't play at the time
go shove cars around in your sandbox lil bro
thats cool but storm of chaos didn't do anything for his character because it was completely retconned lol.
actually it made him a champion of the 4 gods which was continued into aos
But all references to storm of chaos were completely scrubbed over the course of 7th and 8th, meaning the campaign didn't mean anything lol
is archaon not riding around on some retarded multiheaded bird these days? y'know because storm made him the 4 way champ
hold the L bro you can't dig this hole deeper lmao
the endtimes made him the 4 way champ, because storm of chaos was completely retconned and had no effect on the storyline of the setting lol
lmao now that's peak cope
Its a pretty well established fact that storm of chaos was retconned entirely by the time 8th was in full swing with only passing references in 7th.
that has nothing to do with archaon being introduced through global campaigns which were claimed to have never influenced the setting
hold the L, move less goalposts
archaon was introduced years before the global campaign that was then retconned entirely lol.
if it was retconned entirely he wouldn't be a character
hold the L
He would because he was introduced before the campaign that was retconned entirely, allowing him to exist. lol
not as the ever-chosen he'd just be another champ :^)
But you're wrong.
>info from after the storm
proving my point for me
chasofags are retarded
this is from the 6th edition army book Hordes of Chaos anon, this came out 2 years before the storm of chaos campaign and accompanying book. But you wouldn't know that because you're an embarrassing fake grognard secondary.
oh so you don't know there were multiple storm campaigns?
do you even play the game?
My retard in arms. An event happening then drifting into the minutiae of things is natural. The things still happened and at the time were very important
he's a underage chaosfag, don't waste to much effort
Storms of chaos did not just drift into the minutiae of things though, the events that transpired in the campaign were completely retconned by GW because they didn't like the outcome.
source: everything published after 6th edition.
Well now you're just making shit up 🙁 Was fun but uh, hold that L I guess
there were 2 storms lmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmao
jesus christ you gays don't know shit about the game you spend your life savings on
there was the initial global campaign and then the following supplement army book that came out shortly after
Unless you are getting confused with the storm of magic, which was nothing like the storm of chaos. LOL
Hold that L baby boy
lmao you have no clue at all this is amazing
hole the L, come up with your own material since your mentally bankrupt, and lose weight
might be tough since you're a dumbfuck hamfag but I believe in you lil guy
he's gone completely delusional with grief over this terrible loss, the horror!
Please oh great and mighty grognard, enlightening me to this hidden 2nd storm of chaos you have exclusive knowledge on. It would be terrible if you had to continue holding that L for all to see.
>doesn't know anything about the game he spends thousands on
>posting reaction pics because his asshole is turned inside out
how many global campaigns have you played in champ?
hold the L lmao
Your argument is deader than the old world, little secondary and pretending you know anything is incredibly embarrassing.
Skedaddle back to Ganker and tell the rat-fuckers they're next.
>never played in a global campaign
>tries to talk shit about global campaigns
hold the L lil bro
also cuckmericans don't get to participate in global campaigns beyond some periphery bullshit because everyone know you're to retarded to deal with it
>Near constant projecting this entire thread
Its over lil guy, you have to go back now. I'm sorry.
try playing the game and maybe you'd share in some of these experiences instead of just reading a wiki about them 😉
Its over little secondary, you must away now and talk about how great the steel faith overhaul is for your mud-core needs with your rat fucker friends.
>calling people secondary when you've never participated in a global campaign
>adamant that global campaigns didn't mean anything despite the BBEG of the fagham setting coming from them
there may not be a L big enough for this lil bro to hold...
>Adamant that there were two storms of chaos
>Can't even prove it
>BTFO'D on every point he's made this thread
So sad secondary...this might be TWO Ls
>Never played a global campaign
Lmmmmao stopped right there
bet you bros don't even know about the siege of praag culmination of a global campaign vs chaos because it never happened in your cuck country
you don't know shit about anything since you weren't there lil cuck boy
L held, congratulations
>A whole bunch of nothing
Still waiting for storm of chaos 2 kiddy.
still waiting for you to play a global campaign lady
oh wait you can't since garden gnome double you doesn't do them anymore because their fans are special needs..
hold the L
>makes up a campaign to win an argument online
>obviously can't back up his obviously fake claim
Secondaries are so sad!
>laughing at you
>shifting goalposts and trying to recycle insults because you're a moron
yea you are lmao
Hold the L
besides you don't even know what a global campaign is lmao
yea you are
don't seethe just hold the L
You ruined this thread. Well done!
as long as lil hamfags learned a thing about talking to their betters and people who actually played this dogass dogshit when shit actually happened like global campaigns
This is sad homie, you're literally fighting over nothing. Obviously Storm of Chaos isn't canon any longer, literally anybody except yourself will tell you that. I understand that the global campaigns were important to you, but get a grip. The thread isn't even about this subject for Christ's sake.
bump because apparently the current iteration of hamfag children don't even know where the fuck the main characters of this dogshit fuckawful setting come from
Lmao the absolute state of these little gay bitchtit having losers
Hold that L bro
what is this drivel and how does it relate to WFB?
yea you better pivot to a new angle considering that L
>king retard says WHFB campaigns didn't influence the setting
>archaon introduced through global campaigns
>literally the big bad of WHF and AOS
NTA. esl or brain damage?
I assume you have brain damage if this is hard to follow
but you're a warfag cuckboy so that's just expected
also chaos cannons only entered in gameplay again because of storm
another fundamental change giving chaos ranged artillery
children really should learn themselves before talking to their betters
albion introduced the giant mercs so that was a gameplay change
again you don't know because you're a gayfag child who reads gay wikis for all his warham knowledge because you're a dumb sped who never played the game
> end times like we would want
No one wants that
No one wants to divert end times and then have the world keep going like it was before end times?
They're having supply issues because they never bothered to slow down release rates during the plague, and it worked out for them so they're constantly chasing that fear of missing out on limited release stuff instead of bothering to slot in the required machine time to produce older products that their game systems relied upon.
Because they're not operating as a wargames company that's keeping a wide range of supported games going, they're operating as a collectables company that happens to have some games attached for context.
Also there's zero chance The Old World is anything but a massive disappointment to almost everyone. If you wanted to keep playing Warhammer Fantasy, you would have. Or you would have changed to an alternative game system. If you just want fair normal fantasy miniatures instead of the AoS aesthetic there's way better options out there for fantasy miniatures that GW's and have been for fucking years.
The only people this gonna be for is the ones who don't understand/can't even conceive that other games/miniatures companies exist, and for the executives who just want to make sure that they have an in-production basis for licenced products.
Yeah, that'll be it.
britain is collapsing you mongoloid
yea it's because they're making a new game fer sure
Why is this happening? You can’t blame Brexit.
Bongladhes, being a small island, is dependant on exterlan imports. THose are fucked becasue covid and war. So Bongs are stranded waiting for ships to finally come over and give them stuff to do
Tories being Tories with no restraint as the only thing they're beholden to any more is the Tory party hardcore members and funders.
>Asks a question
>Doesn't want to hear the answer
To be fair, it's not JUST Brexit. It's also the Tories and their policies in general.
It's also because Britain has tried to larp autarky without properly reindustrializing and rekindling their own agrarian production, which has been a mistake decades in making. It's like Britain's boomer politicians are unable to accept that they are not a great power anymore and aren't going to get favorable treatment in international trade just by being UK. There is nothing of value in UK anymore except cold cash money, and more of it is pouring out than pouring in because why the fuck would anyone invest in Britain?
>It's like Britain's boomer politicians are unable to accept that they are not a great power anymore and aren't going to get favorable treatment in international trade just by being UK
You don't need the "it's like".
>net importer runs the money printer hot to smooth over social issues instead of pursuing real economic reforms
It's a downward spiral. The more the pound devalues the less attractive Britain becomes for exporters, the lack of supplies drives up prices and the Bank of England is pressured to print money to try to drive prices down through government intervention thus bringing us back to the inflation problem. Germany will go the same way by the end of the year.
>You can’t blame Brexit
>Why is this happening? You can’t blame Brexit.
it isn't it's because GW can't manage itself and all of the fucking retards scream "DAH TORRIES" or "BREXIT" or "DAH GAMMON"
the lot of posh fucks they are.
The whole country is having issues with shortages, energy bills, strikes, refugees, crime and football pundits.
It's just Britain being Britain.
>Fantasyfags are so desperate they're trying to build hype over Britain's economic crash
>news next week
Incoming map and recycled art
Screencap this. I work for the GW specialist games team - the rulebook is done and has been for some time. Covid put the release track back by at least a year. It was originally supposed to be released this year to coincide with the 40th anniversy and will instead be next year (I'm told)
The only reason, and I mean ONLY reason this game exists is because of the Total War franchise. CA threatened to pull the contract as they didn't know the Old World was being destroyed and GW realised it was cheaper to relaunch fantasy than lose the license (used to live in Horsham where CA is based, have friends that work there). There will be almost nothing new, all the "new" artwork is just artwork of old kits to make it look new.
post more deets for a better screencap
>CA threatened to pull the contract as they didn't know the Old World was being destroyed and GW realised it was cheaper to relaunch fantasy than lose the license
Wasn't Warhammer Fantasy done before CA even released their first game?
Yeah, and CA said they were going to can it before release as it was still in development.
GW couldn't afford to lose the amount they paying as it was a hell of a lot of money, hence why it was relaunched.
What do you want to know?
>What do you want to know?
Do they believe people will buy this shit after End Times?
They're not actually especially bothered because the main reason it exists is due to keeping Creative Assembly sweet. They're expecting hype to carry it some distance but I wouldn't expect longer term support unless it sells well. It's not really costing them all that much because it's almost entirely old models. To my knowledge, there's maybe some new resin models but no plastics, but the model design and rules teams don't actually work together.
> Anon revealed to be full of shit literally within a day by Warhams community article
Please tell me 'oh I worked in specialist games but DIDNT know the starter Contents....'
Anon revealed as LARPer gay.
Bruh he was revealed to be a lapping fag the second he misunderstood how licensing worked, and thought it was a major revenue stream for GW at the time.
What specialist games projects are in the works?
Epic, set in the Horus Hersy
Is the scale going to be the same as older epic stuff or slightly different to be a pain in the ass?
Is it going to be nuAT compatible?
The most memorable parts of epic were eldar, squats and titans in that order. Horus heresy would be such a waste. I'd play eldar in epic.
It's in line with new titans, Titanicus was effectively a soft launch of Epic but was a bit delayed by the afforementioned Covid
Meant to reply to this
I can live with this.
Epic Armageddon is a great game though, is this going to be like when GW took the Community Blood Bowl back and fucked it up?
>CA threatened to pull the contract as they didn't know the Old World was being destroyed
Why would they do that?
Because they'd just destroyed the IP they'd paid a bunch of money for, and replaced it with something else completely unrelated. Imagine you'd just agreed to make a trilogy of Star Wars games, and then Disney announces the Star Wars universe no longer exists, and has been replaced with another vaguely generic sci-fi universe. Wouldn't you feel a bit ripped off? Star Wars is a bad example as it's no where near as niche, but you get the jist.
The IP licensing costs for warhammer dont cost you fuck all until you actually release the game and start paying royalties. Then GW starts taking a hefty pound of flesh. There's also no reason GW would even consider a dev ceasing development on a game a to be threat, or wait three fucking years to make said threat/wait for GWs announcement.
>t. Had the displeasure of working on a dogshit warhammer mobile game
I don't think you're disagreeing with me chief, I'm not familiar with how it works I just know that was the most motivator, maybe CA were worried it'd impact their sales as it's a pretty niche universe? GW realised it would them less to relaunch WHFB that they'd make from the Total War games, so therefore it was cheaper for them to relaunch than lose the royalties for the rest of the games.
As I said, ALMOST nothing. Don't expect mass range refreshes, but I don't work with the models anyway and those teams are kept separate. I'd expect no more than half a dozen plastic kits and the rest in resin, or old stuff. Which to be fair is what most people want.
>Don't expect mass range refreshes
>Bretonnian and Tomb kings shit shown
Wasn't bret and tomb Kings 95% plastic though?
questing, grails and trebuchet were metals
It's all semantics but a few models getting upgrades to plastic isn't too much of a major range refresh
These aren't the old kits
>In today’s article we’re visiting the armouries of the Old World and giving you a first look at some of the weapons and wargear that can be found in the brand new plastic kits coming for the Kingdom of Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings of Khemri
Ah yeah dude, the £11 million in revenue from all royalties receivable the year before the announcement is the big ticket item that had GW quaking in their boots.
LARP someplace else.
>CA threatened to pull the contract as they didn't know the Old World was being destroyed and GW realised it was cheaper to relaunch fantasy
> There will be almost nothing new, all the "new" artwork is just artwork of old kits to make it look new.
But we know already shit like Kislev are getting model ranges because the CA models were designed by GW not CA.
I wouldn't believe it because that implies GW has the capacity to plan instead of just publishing rules and minis that they think will give them money or retain their rights.
Just let fantasy stay dead, please. Nobody who actually made it good works there anymore, the artists are all gone and replaced with cheap digital art that looks like shit and designers who don't get any of the settings, and it'll just end up being the same broken mess that the other games have become filled with things like bear cavalry and demigryphs.
Hear me out:
My ideal AoS would have been an RPG product line where the titular "Age of Sigmar" is actually a bizarro universe where Sigmar exists as a literal god of perfect order whose uncompromising sight keeps vigil over a nightmare of uncompromising, totalitarian rule. And the players are individuals who have been empowered by the last gasps of freedom to fight back.
I miss the old Kislev.
Idk I always liked the Warhammer Fantasy setting so I hope it comes back strong.
Also fuck GW for throwing away part of their History and most iconic setting.
This whole dogshit idea will fail on day one, everyone knows this.
GW jacked prices up yet again this month and no this system will not be spared from it. GW will do the same price jack next year as well in 2024 because fuck you.
This shit will 100% suffer from the same problems as all current GW systems with nothing being fixed or being better.
Instead of spending time, effort, money and other resources on this useless dogshit and waste of time of fucking system, they should have spent all of that into the currently existing systems and address the issues and fucking fix them.
they don't fix the issues because to them they're not issues. They're selling points for meta churn.
Afer all, what killed WFB was that after 20 years, everyone had their ideal collection done and very few new items got sold. Shifting meta ensures people keep buying shit because people are idiots and competitive mode became the only mode.
BS what killed Fantasy was just GW and GW alone, they still sell the same 20 year old core Lizardmen in AOS now.
I am sure people would be willing to upgrade their core units with some sweet new minis, but there are no upgrades only the odd hero or elite unit every 5-10 years.
if mahreenes outsold (allegedly)the entire WFB line, if paints outsold the WFB line, they had fuck-all incentive to do anything with it tbh. Investing too much in a product with much lower ROI is just not sensible. If those low sales were caused by GW (unlikely, they did agressively release plastic kits in 6th edition) or simply the fact that spacemens are more popular than grimdark fantasy doesnt change the fact.
bro have you ever heard of loss leaders ?
I do not care if Warhammer Fantasy is not selling as well as Fag-Marines or Paints. Just because some of the product range is not instantly sold out like a new Primach does not mean it is worthless.
Cutting your second most famous IP and on top the original Fantasy Tabletop game was just a retarded Idea.
>Just because some of the product range is not instantly sold out like a new Primach does not mean it is worthless.
It literally means that tho.
It means that the product you're trying sell is not popular and doesn't sell well, meaning it is giving you the hint that "Don't bother, no one gives a shit about this".
Just because you might like a setting doesn't mean lot of other people do.
And the fact is that, if there is not enough popularity, ie. not enough fans and actual population for the game, to warrant new shit, they are not going to make it because it'd mean a waste of time, effort, money and resources.
All of which the company can just use on another product it knows will sell and will basically triple their money.
Never forget that Games Workshop, is purely a company first, and the game and verses second.
All of those are secondary, making profit primary for them, never mistake their intent.
Still does not know what a loss leader is, continues to be retarded. What a suprise.
Nta, but loss leaders can only be loss leaders if the existence of said product actually attracts customers and causes them to buy something else. No one was coming into the store looking for WHFB after 2012 before it died. That hilariously enough, started to happened after TWW was released, and I've personally witnessed it happen 4 times this year alone. And the retards still somehow get conned into buying AoS models anyway.
Loss leaders are sold at a loss, not manufactured at a loss you absolute dipshit
Go back to basic microecon
Dude are you just too peasize brain to get it, Warhammer Fantasy the Tabletop game can be at a loss because the IP/Setting and everything around it sells amazing.
So you could have had almost 10 years of more characters Units and Storylines that trickle into other media, and in return could have gotten more players into the hobby.
WHFB was fine in 6th, sales were low because GW deliberately fucked up the game to try and increase sales.
>not even bother
TOW will be an excuse to deliberately fuck over the setting and release more ugly overpriced models, why would any warhammer fan bother with it?
What killed WHFB was ultimately GW's paranoia about copyright and trademarks.
That they'd fucked the game's sales with the 7th and 8th editions being absolute shitshows didn't help but wasn't an un-recoverable situation. Like their other games the core income wasn't from the grogs who'd been playing forever, but the churn of noobs. That churn had been fucked over by the entry cost being way too high, Lord of the Rings being right fucking there for another fantasy game that was actually accessible and attached to a thing people outside the GW sphere would give a fuck about, and the game itself getting a bad reputation amongst those that still played because of how crap it had gotten.
That was all theoretically fixable. If someone other than the 'genius' Tom Kirby had been in charge at least. Though it can be argued that AoS was the fix, it did address at least for a while the mess of cost of entry in time and amount of stuff required, provided a more distinct visual style to distinguish it from other fantasy stuff like LotR, though the game rules were and are still crap.
But all of that could have been done without killing WHFB.
What couldn't have been done though was fixing how GW couldn't hold a copyright on Elves and Orc and all that shit. That's ultimately why it was killed and replaced outright. GW has a long history of copyright bullying well beyond legally reasonable protection of their brand, but the Chapterhouse case and the spots the space marine fuckup, that shook them. Hence why everything according to their bizarre corporate logic had to be destroyed and remade as copyrightable word salad that has been ever increasingly ludicrous.
All that The Old World is for is brand maintenance. A minimum effort product, like one of those no-budget movies made purely for rights retention, except they're hoping to get a few pennies out of it in the process.
Just let me use my Ogres and Rats on circle bases
No? They haven't even shown a preview of a single model for TOW. It's obviously not at a point where anything for it is being manufactured.
cool a new questing knight box
gw doesn't even know their own setting anymore
Y'know there's both... Knights of the Realm and Grail Knights... right?
if you model your bretonnian knights without lances you shouldn't play the game
I will now just to spite you.
>I will spend my money on shitty gw games to spite a anonymous user on Ganker!
settle down there you genius
Calm down son, its just a shitpost, it can't hurt you.
playing gw games is shitposting?
I would kind of agree but I think you have to be retarded to play in the first place
played yourself really
You're not very good at this
>tfw it's an upgrade sprue
Don't want to play 150 years before end times. What a stupid fucking choice.
This FW specialist game is going to look real epic piling up on store shelves, can't wait to laugh at all the retards here.
Tick tock, stormie
Idiot it's the fact that they have probably switched production entirely over to 10th edition starters for like 2 months for the anticipated demand.
First reveal for old world models
Legit £1.50 on thingiverse tier. Ready to pay £50 for 10 foot soldiers?
>buy shit from a dogshit company in a country that's collapsing due to pooslims so they have to keep upping the cost
L m a o
I'm thinking £50 for 5 is fair since it's a specialty game. More money for GW means more models which is a win/win for me.
>I'm thinking £50 for 5 is fair
jfc you've been brain damaged or you're a redshirt. Maybe both.
Don't you people have jobs? There's more to designing these miniatures than just the cost of the plastic. Who is going to create new models, rules and stories for you when the artists, designers and writers aren't getting paid for their hard work?
Ask yourself that first before you say that £10 for a highly detailed knight (incl. rules!) is too much.
Go look at other companies before you shill.
I may not know what I'm talking about but I think the issues are from the announced price increase, which caused cucks to go into a buying frenzy they wanted.
pretty dangerous because GW can always announce a price hike to get ppl to buy out their stock of minis and manipulate the players who never question this stuff or backlash unless a youtuber's career is hurt
Stop this nonsense, if this second storm of chaos exists he could easily post a poster or article about it.
Amazing that the op bas nothing to do with storm of cucks or any campaigns. Stop arguing over what doesn't matter.
Don't know wtf the genuine retards in chat are arguing about, but GW have stated (multiple times) that TOW will take place several centuries before the End Times which is still canon.
The fact that GW have announced today that they are making plastic kits for TOW is big. Original leaks were saying they would be a Forgeworld, resin-only joint.
At this point is there any reason not to just get into kings of war and that world?
Their new designs for twilight elves look good and they have tomb king eqv., dwarfs with slayers.
A boat game and more
Why not jump ship
I played KoW, it's okay. It does some cool things, but I don't like how little control I feel over my characters. Being able to give a character only one or two magic items that ultimately don't do *that* much is kinda lame. I can definitely see why some people would like it though!