>HAHA DUDE, IVE READ HEGEL ONCE LMAOOOO
this your hero, Ganker...???
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>HAHA DUDE, IVE READ HEGEL ONCE LMAOOOO
>HAHA DUDE, IVE READ HEGEL ONCE LMAOOOO
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it's half assed hegel through a marxist/materialist lens, thanks sawyer!
That's the point.
>through a marxist/materialist
I don't even need to ask you why you think this because I know the reason is you're a moron who read the word "dialectics" and immediately thought of "dialectical materialism" like some reactionary /misc/ troglodyte who has a list of leftie trigger words
you type like a liberal.
Literally the way he describes the dialectic and thesis, antithesis, syn dumbfrick
that's quite recognisably fichtean you sub-human ape.
dialectical materialism has nothing to do with these idealist fictions
>through a XYZ lens
peak pseud moment
Applying dialectics to turn Hegel's idealist shit into materialist gold. You're motherfricking welcum.
So what exactly is Hegelian Dialetics and how is Caeser using it wrong?
I saw the one mod and the whole paragraph is just the author talking shit, doesn't actually go into the definition other than going "no you're wrong".
Yeah, I never understood why NV gets praised for having "deep" and "understandable" villains. The Empire and Stormcloaks in Skyrim were honestly better, but that's largely due to the fact that Bethesda refused to put in any detail that would help the player decide. People still argue over it not because both points have merit, but because there is a complete lack of basis for both of them, so people are free to fill in the gaps with their own headcanon and talk past each other. Of the Fallout / ES games the faction dynamics in Morrowind are probably the best I've seen.
NV has good writing, but the factions are not well written. Flat, one-dimensional and boring.
NCR depiction is sorta well written imo. Aside from the framing of it as this Manifest Destiny nuUSA in post-apocalypse trappings, there are multiple perspectives on the faction coming from its key people, from the true believer (Moore), people who just went along for the ride and keeping it together (Hsu), and people who are disillusioned by it (Hanlon) not to mention the npcs interactions. It's not as monolithic as the Legion so people didn't really pay attention to it as a whole. As for the Legion, yeah it's really underbaked, there's some attempts with characters such as Joshua Graham and Ulysses to bring more depth but it wasn't enough.
>I never understood why NV gets praised for having "deep" and "understandable" villains
I never understood people about making up claims either yet here weare.
>The Empire and Stormcloaks in Skyrim were honestly better,
Oh your actuallly just moronic, nevermind.
>I never understood people about making up claims either yet here weare.
This game has been praised to high heaven for its "deep" writing for over ten years now.
>umm their beliefs are not infallible
>this is terrible writing
God, what a fricking pseud you are.
>>HAHA DUDE, IVE READ HEGEL ONCE LMAOOOO
>this your hero, Ganker...???
it doesn't matter if the interpretation of the philosophy is wrong, or if it was done by the devs on purpose or by accident, the point was/is that you learn WHY the character is doing what he's doing and how he justifies it; it being accurate or inaccurate to the real life philosophy is irrelevant
nice bait nerd, have a (you)
>The Empire and Stormcloaks in Skyrim were honestly better
BUILT for Ulysses wiener!
Do you ever get tired of seething about this game? It’s been thirteen fricking years yet you gays still post shit like this daily.
He was quite literally the average Gankerigin, reading a passage of something random here and there and basin his whole existence on it
I like how he uses Hegal to avoid doing half of the things he should be doing for the Legion, saying that he'll get it from the NCR when they synthesize.
>no trust me bro, we'll get the best of both worlds when we crucify and enslave all the people with technology and government
I think he's overly optimistic which is weird given how bitter and cynical he is, but in his defense they allegedly treat civilized people who bend the knee decently. Eddie's dream plan is basically once all resistance is squashed, all the unsavory elements slaughtered, the military will become more a peacekeeping force that will intermingle with the civilians, the state religion and values will be disseminated so you'll have people who have a history beyond being spearchucking savages but also they'll be imbued with values like drugs are bad, how to live off the land, and how to drive a nail through a man's palm in a way that he won't bleed out for days.
He needs some convenient excuse to change the organization, the organizational tenet is too deeply rooted at that point with or without him.
It's not an excuse, it's his fricking plan. Caesar if he wanted to could probably just civilize the states he already has. They worship him like a god, if he's so worried about Lanius getting restless he can very easily send him to bang his head up against the NCR or any other snipe chase in inhospitable territory and he'll thank him for the honor. But his issue is 1. He sort of wants to go home and do NCR his own way and 2. He probably wants the few parts of the NCR he does approve of. Despite his shittalk he never stopped thinking that California was a more civilized place than his own subjects, he thought they got soft and corrupt but they were still wiser. He seemed to respect Tandi's defacto rule on the NCR and how it kept shit running smoothly. So yeah I think the LEgion might've always been the ends to the means of reinstating a Monarch in the NCR.
Its a good carrot on a stick for his army of morons. And even if he somehow lived long enough to see fruits of his labour I doubt he would mind the out come being nothing like he imagined as long as the people he didnt like are dead and his at the top.
>larping doctor who was more into the dissecting than healing
>read books about le ebic Roman Empire and how women are beta as frick
>drops out of being a doctor, gets a religious friend who he dumps later
>finds enough moron gym bros who hate women around to make an army
>quotes people incorrectly to one-up them whenever possible, if it doesn’t work simply kills them or kicks them out of his gamer tent
he just like me fr fr on Fuentes no kizzy
Fallout New Vegas is unfortunately not that much of a deep game when you get down to it. You should go read an actual masterpiece like Fate: Stay/Night that should be taught in American high schools instead of dumb shit like The Great Gatsby.
Why are you doing Kegel, are you a woman? moron.
I don't care what he believes, I just want to see NCR citizens hanged from a roof.
Wildcard is pretty much the only correct path if you're playing Tale of Two Wastelands and doing all the 3 and NV DLCs, isn't it? No way your character can experience so much and be content with only being second in command.
Unfortunately I do not aknowledge Bethesdas fanfiction.
the difference in quality between both games is incredibly jarring because of how shit Fallout 3 is but the mod still has its moments here and there. particularly when you bring New Vegas companions back to the Capitol Wasteland and roleplay-pretend that you're telling them "this is the landfill I grew up in where everyone talks like they have 80 IQ in every conversation"
>playing Tale of Two Wastelands
I too enjoy a diarrhea frosting on my chocolate cake.
i like it because it allows me to be comically evil.
can't do that in nv.
>Wildcard is pretty much the only correct path
there's only one correct path for humanity anon.
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Pretty sure I instagibbed this bum when ive met him
What is it about Hegel that turns people into either fascists or communists
Hegel was a pseud. Idealism and Materialism are both moronic.
who the frick cares about New Vegas you moronic SEAmonkey
>this your hero, Ganker...???
No, I like this guy
-Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, and 76, all share the same basic plot structure. You're a person from an isolated community sent out to save your family(be they biological or community) and get wrapped up in a larger plot that threatens your home. They do this because it gives your character, and thus the player, a reason to care about whats going on, and explain why these unskilled people are going out into the post apocalyptic wasteland full of giant monsters when they otherwise shouldn't. NV on the other has none of this. The Courier isn't sent out to protect anyone they know/care about, there is no immediate threat that the Courier knows about from Benny, and the Courier isn't from the Mojave, so the game gives you zero reason to care about going after Benny or the NCR/Legion war beyond that's what you have to do to beat the game since the game simply doesn't let you leave the Mojave because... reasons?
-The other Fallout games give clear reasons why the major factions let you join them, be it raiding the Glow, or managing to break into the Institute, there's clear reason why you are accepted. NV just has the NCR and Legion jump you after you talk to House, and they make you their main guy because... reasons? Despite the fact you haven't actually done anything to warrant it, or show any impressive skills. Even if they want information about House that's all the use you have to them.
-The other Fallout games have the factions send you on quests that directly help them in the main plot, be it things like getting components for Liberty Prime, or getting the GECK, building up the Minutemen, repairing the tanker, etc. NV sends you on a bunch of quests to side factions that basically play no part in the war, yet the game acts like are important while all the actual war stuff(helping Camp Golf, Bitter Springs, repairing the Legion Howitzer etc) are 100% optional side objectives that don't matter, and don't impact who wins because... reasons?
-In the other Fallout games you beating the badguy is a direct result of actually doing all these things that directly contribute to it. Whereas in NV the NCR goes from losing against the Legion to winning against them at the battle simply because you showed up on their side, and not because you did anything to actually help them build up their forces to that point.
-The other Fallout games also make their final enemies have some sort of impact because they have ideals, and goals, they don't just immediately abandon. Whereas in New Vegas Lanius/Oliver just... give up because you speech-fu them with arguments that make no sense. Making them appear weak, and mindless, and having no impact.
New Vegas is literally a game about nothing. It's where nothing happens for any logical reason, and you have no reason to care about anything, and nothing you do really matters.
I've never seen a person misunderstand a game this badly. Did you even play it or did you speed through a YouTube playthrough?
>Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, and 76, all share the same basic plot structure
So New Vegas does something different that fits its setting (wild west revenge story) and you think that's bad because... it's different? Please never write anything.
>NV just has the NCR and Legion jump you after you talk to House
Because they know you have the Platinum Chip, moron. Did you even play the game?
>NV sends you on a bunch of quests to side factions that basically play no part in the war
You literally see all the major factions' impact at the Battle of Hoover Dam. That's what the whole game is building up to.
Also, New Vegas isn't a simple linear A to B narrative. It's a complex setting with a lot of different things going on. You don't see the effect of everything that happens because that would be impossible. A lot of what you do in the NCR questline is about the long-term viability of the NCR's occupation, not just what goes on in-game. Even then, most of the big choices you make are brought up in the end slides.
>Whereas in NV the NCR goes from losing against the Legion to winning against them at the battle simply because you showed up on their side, and not because you did anything to actually help them build up their forces to that point.
You're basically complaining that a video game is a video game and that the protagonist in an RPG is more powerful than everyone else, and whoever they support will win. No shit! You could make the exact same complaint about every Fallout.
Also, the NCR already beat the Legion once, without the courier's involvement.
>Whereas in New Vegas Lanius/Oliver just... give up because you speech-fu them with arguments that make no sense
This is just regurgitating Ganker shitposting.
You could already do this with The Master and Colonel Autumn.
>Its Hegelian dialectics!
It actually wasnt...
that's one more time than you have.
He's legitimately a manchild. Just a thug who thinks he's a genius because he skimmed a couple old books.
The Legion is definitely a villain faction that you happen to have the option to join. They're not treated as equal to NCR/House/Independent.