Why are there still so many people playing?
This is why I fricking hate when shit like this happens. No matter how bad it is, no matter how much you protest, there will always ALWAYS be massive wave of normalgays who outnumber you like 10-1 so no matter what you it doesn't even fricking matter.
because the people still playing don't know what's coming in 2 days.
Wait until monday, even if it'll probably end up like >boycottmodernwarfare2steamgroup.jpg
it's at least worth waiting to see how players react when they boot up on Monday and get a splash screen saying "SIGN INTO SNOY ACCOUNT TO PLAY"
We're still outnumbered 80-20 for everything else too
>shit movie or TV show comes out >We don't watch it >millions of other unwashed masses do >shit is a "hit"
Seriously. How the FRICK do you stop this?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Genocide
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nice try glowie
1 month ago
Anonymous
so kill the minority got it, Great idea
1 month ago
Anonymous
>80% splits in half because "free 20%tine!!!"
Yes, genocide is the answer.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's called "Voting with your wallet". Why doesn't Ganker understand this concept?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>voting with money >direct democracy
And it's a fricking sham. Fricking hate it when liberals say that the free market will fix things. You actually have to be reactionary or progressive to get shit to change.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You don't because you're not the majority and thus people don't need or want to appeal to you. You lost
1 month ago
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>lost
Frick off NPC
1 month ago
Anonymous
Most of you morons are just different flavors of npc only Ganker themed these days.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Says the brainless normalgays sheeple subhuman
1 month ago
Anonymous
Who gives a shit? Just watch what you want to watch and don't watch what you don't want to watch. How fricking moronic are you to not understand this simple concept?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I just fricking watched this episode get out of my mind
you can't, people are more than happy to eat fricking shit no matter what and when you call against these types of issues they feel as if it's an attack on them so they get pissed at you for it, it's literally like dealing with morons, you can never win against normal Black folk with endless pockets
People are just brainless homosexuals. What good reason is there to use Chrome over Firefox? None, they're just fricking consoomers who are the ones who unironically say "Its ok if they spy on me i've got nothing to hide anyway".
>How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
Put your money where your mouth is. Sure we aren't a majority but we can still have good games if we support good games.
meh, i already got my time with it but i seriously hate how we still have to deal with 3rd party account management
i have a psn linked account but i still think it's fricking dumb
Literally, unironically, sieze political power & force the people who are pissing you off to stop, on pain of imprisonment or death.
Anything less is just asking nicely.
>has a Steam account so doesnt even own anything he buys, plays on Windows and browses on Chrome
thats fine 🙂 >loses his mind when he needs a PSN acc because Sony will hack his furry ryona porn or whatever
Schizos need to KYS so badly
>How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
join the based side and either pirate it or not play it. shit companies can and normalgays can do whatever they want but they can never take my repacks away.
>normal people don't care about spending 1 minute signing up for a new account
correct.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>normal people don't care about spending 1 minute signing up for a new account >Correct
Well, if there's one thing I know, it's that there are definitely LOTS of well adjusted people on the internet talking about video games.
>headcanon cuck theory in chink game >game getting review bombed and lost 80% of its revenue after 2 months >westoid getting fricked in the ass in snoy game >game getting review bombed and nothing happens, you will still eat the bugs
Why are westoid so pathetic?
Gotta remember that most people don't even know about those updates. They see a notification on Steam and just dismiss it unless it's an item or friend request/message. Wait till the update goes live and see how many do make an account, that's where a potential fall-off can happen. "Normal" people don't give a shit about this stuff unless it's directly thrown in their face and sometimes even then they sadly don't.
1 month ago
Anonymous
A problem they’ll have is that any normalgays that took a break due to burnout are probably never coming back when this change hits.
Somebody that’s in two minds over picking the game back up is probably going to say frick it if they have to jump through some moronic hoops.
welcome to the real world
yes, the masses are moronic and yes, you will simply have to put up with it
You guys are moronic. It starts on May 30. Majority of people don't even read Discord/Steam News. The player count will drop drastically when the game actually blocks them from playing. That's when the real fun begins and people start pushing for lawyers/chargebacks
1 month ago
Anonymous
I haven't applied for a refund yet because I think I'll have a better shot when it actually goes into effect and they get mass requests. Right now it's just a few/sporadic terminally online people that know about it and apparently valve has been denying requests. If/when it happens all at once Valve will have to actually address the issue more directly and not just let account bots/the resident valve hr troony refuse everything.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They also upset the Chinks with this who can't even play the game without a VPN. Chink autism is on our side for once
>Hmmm... are you sure about that?
Yes. The player count didn't tank after the update. The idiots screeching just still decided to make the account to play the game instead of doing something sensible like not playing it.
>tiniest weekend bump to date >update hasn't dropped yet >45k negative reviews over the course of 12 hours
HAHAHAHAHHAHHA, oh little Snoyboy, it's so joever.
In-between the shills the reddit tier players and awful community manager I only boot up the game to drop samples in holes mod in super credits to other players so they'll get banned and just be a menace.
I'm not saying I'll quit the game today, but if this PSN requirement goes through, I'm done. I'm not giving them any other penny. Already left a negative review to voice my opinion. I'll move on and play something else. Maybe WarHam 3 or Valkyria Chronicles.
I have over 300 games and a 41 game backlog. Giving up on Helldivers won't hurt me and the devs already got my money. If they're stupid, they'll kill the future of the game and any future DLC because the player base will drop by an easy 1/3rd when the PSN update goes live.
That just removes* it from the total score, it doesn't delete the reviews, so it would go back up to 85% or whatever it was before the announcement, but with an asterisk.
They dont do it.
What they do is make a two tier system.
A censored one which they pretend everything is fine and one where the game got shat on.
You can put on your display options to always show bad reviews, but by default, steam would try to hide it from you.
Steam is still a store, they want to sell games, if they have to fool gamers, so be it.
I'm so confused. I thought you needed a PSN account since day one?
I literally couldn't play at first because my PSN account was banned. I had to contact support.
From what I understand: >game was advertised needing a PSN account >you needed a PSN account on the FIRST TWO DAYS >game had a ton of technical issues on the first week so they immediately disabled that requirement >so the past few months a majority of players on PC could play it without a PSN account and the game generally worked well without it >suddenly this happens >HD2 was being sold in 200 countries while only 70~ countries had PSN support >the game works perfectly fine without PSN integration anyway >every feels like they were rugpulled >community manager talked back to the players >drama ensues
>Signing in at the beach entrance here is optional! Everyone's welcome, no matter where you're from! 🙂
Nice, let's go for a swim! >WAIT WAIT UHH SIR(S) WAIT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SIGN IN THIS TIME (People from X, Y, Z etc countries are not allowed entrance)
>signing in gets you these benefits >however, it's optional >but if you do it syncs across all games
Nothing about this says or even implies you must sign in. Not being dropped on your head is much more important as a child, sir.
If you want to be an absolute pedantic c**t, one could say that by signing into PSN in a different game, and it syncing across all games, signing into PSN in Helldivers is then indeed optional. Absolutely nobody is going to interpret it that way though.
>>you needed a PSN account on the FIRST TWO DAYS
No you didn't. I bought the game the day it came out and the option to skip it was already there. So I never linked a PSN account.
>I thought you needed a PSN account since day one?
Nope, linking was disabled due to ~~*network issues*~~, ie bait and switch tactics to get people invested and then rugpull when snoy needed a numbers bump.
Couldn't have happened to a bigger group of insufferable homosexuals. Well deserved. Game was dogshit to begin with and their nonstop general threads here have been an absolute cancer.
Standards. PC gamers will happily pay $25 for the latest DLC garbage but you better not make them sign up for another fricking worthless online account. And God forbid your game doesn't have custom keybinds enabled.
Meanwhile console players will eat anything and everything the corpos feed them.
This game has fricking spyware Kernel-level anti-cheat, PC players have no standards or dignity.
There's already a mod to remove the anticheat.
1 month ago
Anonymous
And it will be patched out and players that use it will be banned, like it has happened with every other multiplayer game. If you willingly paid real money for a game with Kernel-level spyware you already abandoned your dignity and anything else you fight for will be performative whining.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>And it will be patched out and players that use it will be banned
Good luck lol. They can't ban jack shit because nobody has a sn0y account currently because of arrowheads server frickup.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They can already ban players on Steam. >In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Tell that to the helldiver devs
1 month ago
Anonymous
That sounds like they fricked up, because most games already track your Steam ID.
1 month ago
Anonymous
they're lying to justify this sony data mining nonsense. companies have always been able to ban players in steam without going to valve.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Sounds like they are mad as frick i make the most racists names and say the most racists shit online
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are they moronic or just fricking lying because you STEAM ID is readily apparent to every fricking Steam game and unique to each person regardless of their username
1 month ago
Anonymous
not just every steam game, every steam user.
Go search for someone to add as a friend, the profile has a unique number attached to it.
They're straight up just lying
1 month ago
Anonymous
those moronic fricks lmao
30 seconds of browsing steamworks api doc > You can retrieve the current user's SteamID by calling ISteamUser::GetSteamID and then retrieve the 64-bit ID by calling CSteamID.ConvertToUint64() on the returned value.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/auth
1 month ago
Anonymous
>devs are so moronic they didn't implement a way to see the steamID or IP's or literally anything
these clowns are so fricking dumb, with their fricking garbage excuses and shitty anti-cheat which does literally nothing, i'm surprised players can even store savedata with how fricking stupid spitz is
they seriously need to just tell him to shut up or hire someone else, silence would be fricking better
1 month ago
Anonymous
valve is obsessed with analytics
there is no way in hell developers don't have access to exact player counts. this is just pure damage control
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure steam Ids are very easily tracked.
1 month ago
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>Steam doesn't allow
Reading comprehension is hard, huh thirdie
1 month ago
Anonymous
Steam allows developers to get unique identifiers of users in the form of steam ids. It's built right into steam's API. The idea that steam doesn't allow this is a flat out lie.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Literally every other non-valve game on steam does not have this problem. It is clearly a lie.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>game devs not being aware of the unique steamID number
jesus christ we can't be in this timeline
1 month ago
Anonymous
As usual, they never know what the frick they are talking about by making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Only enabling crossplay should require linking a PSN account. How difficult could that possibly be to implement?
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's been 3 months and adding/removing friends from the in-game friend's list still doesn't work right.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>too lazy to implement steam API >so you implement PSN API instead
Genius!
1 month ago
Anonymous
And yet, 450,000 accounts named John don't get each other's kill stats and unlocks. Curious.
Almost as if the displayed name is actually not the key identifier used for querying or posting data to a player's record.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He's lying. The first post is bullshit to try and justify the decision, the 2nd post 20 minutes later is more honest. Sony likely wants the ability to ban users without oversight from steam, and much more easily, so they want psn attached. also likely for some shareholders meeting and he's lying to his customers cause he assumes they're stupid.
1 month ago
Anonymous
With how controlling these gays are and snoy too i legit believe this is about having a method of permabanning people without having to talk to valve/steam in any way and bring all their thought police policies PC side.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wouldn't surprise me with how they were acting to all the democracy memes
1 month ago
Anonymous
>We aren't owned by sony, we just happen to need sony permission to ban people
If only steam had some kind of unique Steam ID to track players
1 month ago
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They're mad that valve doesnt ban people for saying Black person.
1 month ago
Anonymous
sauce or gay
only thing i know of is theres a thing that delays gameguard initialization so you have time to inject stuff
Why are there still so many people playing?
This is why I fricking hate when shit like this happens. No matter how bad it is, no matter how much you protest, there will always ALWAYS be massive wave of normalgays who outnumber you like 10-1 so no matter what you it doesn't even fricking matter.
How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
As long as mindless sheeple outnumber us 100 to 1, that will never happen.
they made a good game, but Sony's here to set the record straight even though they finally have a profitable game on their hands. It's never enough for them.
INFINITE PROFIT
INFINITE DATA HARVESTING
INFINITE GROWTH GREEN LINE KEEP GOING UP AT ALL COSTS
This comment doesn't really apply since the people that bought it from day 1 til about a month ago wouldn't be able to refund anyway.
Unless they raise a massive stink at Steam refunds altogether...
Probably wouldn't change anything but it'd be nice to pull Valve in the tub for shits and giggles though.
>Still 107k playing as of right this second
Woah.
Almost as if community outrage means literally fricking nothing in this consumerist world. When has a vidya protest ever amounted to literally fricking anything?
Corpos don't give a shit regardless of how loud you cry. They do what they want and they always get away with it thanks to mindless consumers. There's no winning here.
>Hmmm... are you sure about that?
Yes. The player count didn't tank after the update. The idiots screeching just still decided to make the account to play the game instead of doing something sensible like not playing it.
Update hasn't dropped yet morons.
And this essentially kills the momentum of the game because it's a live service and they've been waning players since.
I don't get how this is any different to Microsoft games requiring Xbox accounts, or EA requiring Origin/EA App accounts, or the slim few Epic games that got pulled from Steam requiring Epic accounts for legacy owners, or... etc.
>what about all the people who don't have PSN in their country
IMAGINE caring about third worlders lmao
but what does that matter? Even if they stored passwords in plain text, you'd have to be a complete moron to use the same password across multiple services
This is unironically a big issue here. Wasn't it revealed a while back that they had passwords and accounts in a plain encrypted text file or something? Shit is massively incompetent.
yes, the UK is a police state dystopia, we're well aware, but what specifically does that have to do with PSN as opposed to the UK's latest draconian measures? Those morons expect to roll out the same face scan or ID to access porn sites in the near future
Almost all of those started out asking those third party accounts instead of doing so months after release. Even the games that had that requirement from day one, that was a dealbreaker for many.
love seeing game developers get their asses blown out like this. "but we're le making fun of empires not le glorifying them!" what a homosexual game for gay morons on reddit.
>40k neg reviews in a day, 200 average reviews per day prior to that
spit my drink out seeing that red line. love seeing businesses get fricked by making dumbass decisions.
literally all they had to do was tell steam autists that they get a free playstation game like the first horizon or a free month of PSN or some shit when they signed up but instead they made it mandatory like some kind of moronic homosexualry which to be honest i think this is all a massive INFO GRAB by the ZOG jap gov't to steal telemetry from russians and americans
Not just that, they could've had a meta-newsletter reminding players on when the grace period for PSN accounts will stop. Gachas do this much for their players, why the frick is it different for GaaS games?
YEAH TRUE i agree w the rest of the replies here except i bet it was even worse than that like they asked chatgpt what the best move would be and this was the suggestion lmao
yes. just cite european anti-consumer laws and keep appealing. took me two times (first time i didn't site european anti-consumer practice laws or specify the third party account rugpull)
gay redditor fotm slop, looking forward to them continuing to squeeze the game for worse “features,” less of them, and more MTX until you losers finally have enough and move on to your new troony zoomer fotm slop
Further proving that PC is not a platform worth catering too. Start to throw tantrums the moment anything inconveniences them. Theres a reason there hasn’t been a worthy PC exclusive in over 10 years and will never be one again.
>Further proving that PC is not a platform worth catering too
Is that why sony has been presenting their butthole to steam for the last 12+ months and continue to do so?
Why are you crying about consumers having standards? no one likes this shit, they have a right to complain about it, especially when it's fricking rug pulled from under them. Why don't you go suck more sony wiener while they remove shit from your library lmao
That's funny, all of my games are still right here. Isn't it weird how this cope is thrown at me constantly while I only see it happening to you? I mean, at least you "own" your games with physical, right? Right??
Chuds claim to want authoritarian society but then get mad when the authorities tell them to stop be being racist and to start using the pronouns.
What gives?
I don't give a fuk about your newest outrage slop I just want to point out that > managed democracy
would precisely avoid this kind of scenario since citizens would specifically NOT be allowed to express their discontent.
Nice media literacy
I think what's moronic is that sony should've made it so you get some sort of reward or benefit to linking your sony account to helldivers 2 instead of forcing everyone into their ecosystem like this all at once.
it would've been way more easier to slowly ease the audience instead of this moronic strategy.
If they'd tried to work with Valve for a solution to the banning issue that didn't involve this, the reaction would have been in the complete inverse. "We're announcing the removal of the need to make a PSN account for this game."
No. This has to do with PS+ They want you to pay for this shit on a subscription.
They did the same thing with Infantry and it killed it.
I've been thinking these past few minutes.
With all the connectivity problems HD2 has and the crossplay with snoy being possible, HD2 probably doesn't use steamworks for mp, it probably uses PSN and some sort of guest credentials.
Also hence why the servers were brought to their knees on launch. Snoys shitty servers just couldn't handle all the pc traffic.
So the stuff from snoy about them being unable to track steamids is probably true because they're not exposed to matchmaking.
Even if their bullshit excuse about tracking player IDs is true, they're ignoring the obvious solution staring at them in the face.
All they would have to do is make crossplay opt-in, requiring a PSN ID. No player with a functioning brain would have any issue with this whatsoever. The fact that Arrowhead couldn't figure this out means they deserve all of the blowback, not just greedy Sony executives.
Of course, this is all assuming in good faith that moderation is ACTUALLY the issue and not just a smokescreen for additional data collection and pumping PSN numbers. Either way both Arrowhead and Sony can frick themselves.
Literally the only reason Sony forced this is so they could pad out their fricking PSN numbers for investors.
The game worked fine for months without it why does it suddenly need it now? >M-MUH BANNING CHEATERS
It's a fricking PvE game. Let people have fun. Jesus.
Arrowhead are incompetent morons who temporarily bypassed the PS+ subscription requirement to play this game because they couldn't get it to work properly out the gate.
Now they're walking it back.
It's worse than that. They waited until they already had people's money and the game had already been owned long enough that no one can get refunds before deciding to frick with everyone.
Mustard race turd worlders forced to make a free psn account to play the game. That's it.
Entire day full of schizo ramblings about data collection and slippery slopes over this.
It takes a long time to cultivate good will from any community, but it only takes an instant to ruin all that. This image perfectly encapsulates that idea.
>what do you mean they haven't removed the reviews yet? >... but we were REVIEW BOMBED for NO REASON.. >REMOVE THE SCORES NOW!!!
honestly no idea why steam's gay ass anti-bomb shield hasn't kicked in yet
>Get mixed reviews because the servers shit the bed the first week >Work your way up to very positive reviews over the next 3 months >Tank the score to mixed/Mostly Negative in 36 hours
KWAB
Why the frick is everything a bait and switch these days? Is this the end stage of video games? An industry that relies wholly on dishonesty cannot stand forever.
>fake controversies?
make a psn account and upload your face scan + gov id or you can no longer play the game
don't live in a country that has psn? no game for you that you bought
now if only the nips could make an EDF game that wasn't arcane nip nonsense instead of re-releasing the exact same game for full price with four or five changes every couple years they could steal the thunder from these buttholes
if you have one of the largest audiences ever in gaming history and you are trying to frick them over, you should have informed your CMs on what to say and not to say
i hope it crushes and burns
no sympathy for morons
and i say this as someone with 200hrs in the game - uninstalled yesterday
>Make sure you request a refund or its just posturing
you are correct and i will, i'm just waiting for the massive herd to start doing it because i've seen steam is denying a lot of requests from strugglers right now
These companies should stop outsourcing their public image to early 20s pill-addled zoomer b***hes. >muh nerds making games aren't good at talking
Better than these vindictive c**ts.
Swedes have always been arrogant morons. They thought they didn't have to prepare themselves for the rest of the planet to comb through their behavior.
The review score tanked and the CEO was pissed off at that so its already a somethingburger. Keking if they would've got bonuses after a certain time for a positive score.
Going from overwhelmingly positive to mostly negative recent and mixed overall is the kind of frick up that heavily impacts sales over time.
Unless those reviews all get nuked, which itself will cause a subsequent shitstorm, it's already something.
Going from overwhelmingly positive to mostly negative recent and mixed overall is the kind of frick up that heavily impacts sales over time.
Unless those reviews all get nuked, which itself will cause a subsequent shitstorm, it's already something.
Its not going to get hit by the anti review bomb lmao
Especially when the case is so cut and dry
Arrowhead is desperately trying to deflect it all to Sony
Steam automatically does it after a certain time when it detects a large number of negative reviews. You can blame game devs for that change.
moronic Black folk that infest companies nowadays don't understand consequences on a long term scale. They only grasp things in the present. The fact that the money made from HD2 will eventually go away, and that more money will need to be made in the future flies over their non-human heads. This will ensure that in the future they have to work harder to regain the trust, or make new customers, and after they just fricked over 10 million customers in a genre, industry, and cultural-defining game like HD2 had been. They caught the golden goose and cracked it's neck in under 12 weeks. Con-grat-u-fricking-lations, you fricking morons.
>cultural-defining game like HD2 had been
Its literally DRG 2
If it was going to happen they would have done so already.
Valve rarely nukes review bombs unless they're politically motivated or blatant raids, which this demonstrably isn't.
moronic Black folk that infest companies nowadays don't understand consequences on a long term scale. They only grasp things in the present. The fact that the money made from HD2 will eventually go away, and that more money will need to be made in the future flies over their non-human heads. This will ensure that in the future they have to work harder to regain the trust, or make new customers, and after they just fricked over 10 million customers in a genre, industry, and cultural-defining game like HD2 had been. They caught the golden goose and cracked it's neck in under 12 weeks. Con-grat-u-fricking-lations, you fricking morons.
They senselessly fired this off friday night as well without any communication so no ones going to do anything until monday on snoys end.
Masterclass in frickups.
Their numbers have been steadily dropping, but this weekend has seen a 50k drop in players vs last Friday, thus far. The peak is always on Sunday. We haven't even seen the real damage yet.
I mean I stopped playing last month when they dropped three consecutive patches making the gunplay and strats purposely less fun while we *STILL* have dozens of launch bugs. The friends list in a co op game being completely broken almost 4 months later is mindbottling and they've just made no attempt to fix it.
That all depends on what happens the day it goes into effect. The majority of players won't be aware of the whole shitstorm, but if they start up the game and get told to make a new account with Sony, many will just close the game and play something else.
Social media/Reddit/Discord complaints are one thing, but this would be a tangible quit-moment that every PC would see.
Not to mention that the negative reviews and bad press will affect future sales of the game and the state of the community.
Only less than 10% of people who bought a game bother to leave a review, now imagine the day when the block comes live, and the 90% of the players get locked, and go to the reviews to see what's going on and it's just red fields.
https://store.steampowered.com/developer/playstationstudios/
Just a heads up you can head on over here and ignore them, and you won't be notified unless they pay for a steam banner ad
>And you can ignore the developer here: >https://store.steampowered.com/developer/arrowhead
To be fair, had I realised sooner Arrowhead were the developers behind Magicka and Gauntlet I would't have bought HD2, I do not like their "style of fun" lack of critical bug fixing and the increase in frustration playing HD2 in the last month and a half is perfectly explained now.
>Snoy gets away with it
Sony isnt getting away with it, this is their attempt to get a registration spike to show investors so they dont ape out as much. Reminder, Xbox is in deep shit and Playstation is in even deeper shit.
Blizzard did the same thing on console with Overwatch. It never required a battle.net account before overwatch 2. And you can't also call overwatch 2 a brand new game.
It wasn't cool, but every one just created an account and went on with it. I don't really understand why pc players always have a meltdown like this.
Because PC players actually have standards.
Console player + Blizzard fan is the best combination of braindead consumers
You also never see consoles complain that their games run at 30fps with stutters, but on Steam they would rightfully get shit on for it.
They never cared about framerate and claimed 24 fps with drops and stutter was more cinematic and better than 60+ fps. Also genuinely believed, or coped they way into believing that high framerates were placebo and could not be seen. Until their god SONY started advertising it.
I'm pretty sure they STILL believe that stupid fricking AVGN trite about "keyboards are for work, controllers are for play"
They never cared about load times or SSDs either, until SONY started advertising it. Then they were suddenly very smug over their uh... super fast quantum SSDS that outperform any PC (lol).
Disingenuous or moronic, I don't know. But they are braindead consumer cattle all the same.
>I don't really understand why pc players always have a meltdown like this.
A man chooses, a slave obeys.
Now would you kindly make the battle.net account?
The game is going to stop working on PC next week unless you link your steam account with a PSN account. Lots of people don't want a PSN account, which in some regions requires sending your photo ID to Sony for age verification, or isn't available etc. There were no reminders before yesterday that this was going to happen, which was a bit of a PR blunder.
>which in some regions requires sending your photo ID to Sony for age verification, or isn't available
Lmao, what the frick? Fricking swedes
The game is going to stop working on PC next week unless you link your steam account with a PSN account. Lots of people don't want a PSN account, which in some regions requires sending your photo ID to Sony for age verification, or isn't available etc. There were no reminders before yesterday that this was going to happen, which was a bit of a PR blunder.
Stellar blade and this shit one after the other. Hope people wake up and start seeing Sony as the obnoxious, intrusive, greedy, awful company it is and stop buying their stuff for good. Sorry devs if you want my money you're going to need to work with a different company. I own a playstation 5, I do not buy anything for it. I refuse to buy inferior products locked behind an exclusivity deal, especially when they take advantage of their position to force developers to change their games for the worse for no reason. Not linking my steam to a sony account. Your company is trash and you will eat the cost of the consumer discontent you've bred sooner or later.
haven't you seen the steamdb players and comparing them with the total in game players? very few play on ps5, the vast majority play on pc.
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1785696137804210201
>literally have one of the biggest hits of the year so far >already one of their BEST selling Sony games in history because of PC >choose to piss off the PC playerbase en masse >boundless goodwill instantly disappear in 24 hours
What the FRICK did Sony mean by this? They literally had a fricking easy ass slamduck that they could have rode for the rest of the year and beyond. This is so fricking moronic.
They have zero internal communication and probably thought throwing this out on a friday afternoon and then signing off for the weekend would go over without a hitch.
Nevermind thinking to ask Arrowhead.
After all, it's just *product*.
doesn't matter, they are still playing the game, weak willed sunk cost apes.
>boycottmodernwarfare2steamgroup.jpg
based
Hmmm... are you sure about that?
The devs better hurry and add the new enemy faction quick lmao.
Why are there still so many people playing?
This is why I fricking hate when shit like this happens. No matter how bad it is, no matter how much you protest, there will always ALWAYS be massive wave of normalgays who outnumber you like 10-1 so no matter what you it doesn't even fricking matter.
How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
play non massively marketed and hyped FOTM slop?
the last 10 games I played had <10,000 sales
make a psn account and move on with life
>Why are there still so many people playing?
Because the mandate only goes in effect in 2 days.
Vote with your wallet.
NPCs are like zombies with no brains. They will horde up and become an unstoppable mass of consooming.
because the people still playing don't know what's coming in 2 days.
Wait until monday, even if it'll probably end up like
>boycottmodernwarfare2steamgroup.jpg
it's at least worth waiting to see how players react when they boot up on Monday and get a splash screen saying "SIGN INTO SNOY ACCOUNT TO PLAY"
>How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
I wish I knew... It would fix so many things...
It's just a game.
We're still outnumbered 80-20 for everything else too
>shit movie or TV show comes out
>We don't watch it
>millions of other unwashed masses do
>shit is a "hit"
Seriously. How the FRICK do you stop this?
Genocide
Nice try glowie
so kill the minority got it, Great idea
>80% splits in half because "free 20%tine!!!"
Yes, genocide is the answer.
It's called "Voting with your wallet". Why doesn't Ganker understand this concept?
>voting with money
>direct democracy
And it's a fricking sham. Fricking hate it when liberals say that the free market will fix things. You actually have to be reactionary or progressive to get shit to change.
You don't because you're not the majority and thus people don't need or want to appeal to you. You lost
>lost
Frick off NPC
Most of you morons are just different flavors of npc only Ganker themed these days.
Says the brainless normalgays sheeple subhuman
Who gives a shit? Just watch what you want to watch and don't watch what you don't want to watch. How fricking moronic are you to not understand this simple concept?
I just fricking watched this episode get out of my mind
you can't, people are more than happy to eat fricking shit no matter what and when you call against these types of issues they feel as if it's an attack on them so they get pissed at you for it, it's literally like dealing with morons, you can never win against normal Black folk with endless pockets
You can't control anyone's actions except your own.
because I don't care about a bunch of dirty thirdies being unable to play a white man's game?
Knock on wood make something that caters to you and your self-designated crowd.
People are just brainless homosexuals. What good reason is there to use Chrome over Firefox? None, they're just fricking consoomers who are the ones who unironically say "Its ok if they spy on me i've got nothing to hide anyway".
>Why are there still so many people playing?
Maybe people enjoy playing the game?
>people
sheeple*
>How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
Put your money where your mouth is. Sure we aren't a majority but we can still have good games if we support good games.
In other words, LET THEM EAT SHIT.
meh, i already got my time with it but i seriously hate how we still have to deal with 3rd party account management
i have a psn linked account but i still think it's fricking dumb
BILLIONS MUST DIE, as they say.
glow harder
Literally, unironically, sieze political power & force the people who are pissing you off to stop, on pain of imprisonment or death.
Anything less is just asking nicely.
Nice try CIA
Not today FBI
>has a Steam account so doesnt even own anything he buys, plays on Windows and browses on Chrome
thats fine 🙂
>loses his mind when he needs a PSN acc because Sony will hack his furry ryona porn or whatever
Schizos need to KYS so badly
>How the frick do you solve this Ganker?
join the based side and either pirate it or not play it. shit companies can and normalgays can do whatever they want but they can never take my repacks away.
most players don't even know about this. PSN account isn't required for another month
HOLY FRICK I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING
The reviews will be bombed even further once the players from the blocked countries noticed that suddenly they couldn't play anymore...
it's not review bombing you moron when they're well-deserved, moron.
Are you assuming they'll stay quiet once they couldn't play the game they paid for?
Well deserved bad reviews and review bombing aren't mutually exclusive, moron
>normal people don't care about spending 1 minute signing up for a new account
correct.
>normal people don't care about spending 1 minute signing up for a new account
>Correct
Well, if there's one thing I know, it's that there are definitely LOTS of well adjusted people on the internet talking about video games.
Move on with life. It's a video game.
>headcanon cuck theory in chink game
>game getting review bombed and lost 80% of its revenue after 2 months
>westoid getting fricked in the ass in snoy game
>game getting review bombed and nothing happens, you will still eat the bugs
Why are westoid so pathetic?
Gotta remember that most people don't even know about those updates. They see a notification on Steam and just dismiss it unless it's an item or friend request/message. Wait till the update goes live and see how many do make an account, that's where a potential fall-off can happen. "Normal" people don't give a shit about this stuff unless it's directly thrown in their face and sometimes even then they sadly don't.
A problem they’ll have is that any normalgays that took a break due to burnout are probably never coming back when this change hits.
Somebody that’s in two minds over picking the game back up is probably going to say frick it if they have to jump through some moronic hoops.
anon finds out most normies are mindless cattle more news at 11
I play on PS5
welcome to the real world
yes, the masses are moronic and yes, you will simply have to put up with it
You guys are moronic. It starts on May 30. Majority of people don't even read Discord/Steam News. The player count will drop drastically when the game actually blocks them from playing. That's when the real fun begins and people start pushing for lawyers/chargebacks
I haven't applied for a refund yet because I think I'll have a better shot when it actually goes into effect and they get mass requests. Right now it's just a few/sporadic terminally online people that know about it and apparently valve has been denying requests. If/when it happens all at once Valve will have to actually address the issue more directly and not just let account bots/the resident valve hr troony refuse everything.
They also upset the Chinks with this who can't even play the game without a VPN. Chink autism is on our side for once
Poor baby just now realizing he doesn't matter.
>all these replies
>Hmmm... are you sure about that?
Yes. The player count didn't tank after the update. The idiots screeching just still decided to make the account to play the game instead of doing something sensible like not playing it.
>tiniest weekend bump to date
>update hasn't dropped yet
>45k negative reviews over the course of 12 hours
HAHAHAHAHHAHHA, oh little Snoyboy, it's so joever.
What am I supposed to see here? This looks normal for a newly released game.
spite is a powerful thing
>sunk cost
I don't think about the cost at all
are you poor?
>50k drop in players vs last friday
Yeah. No. Not looking good, shill.
AAAHHHHHHH IVE BEEN DEMORALIZED!!! IM GOING BACK TO PLAYING HELLDIVERS BROS WERE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY!!! WE WERE FOOLS TO QUESTION THE MASTER
>"you won't be able to play the game next month!"
>"look, players are still playing this month, that means gamers gave up!"
lol
In-between the shills the reddit tier players and awful community manager I only boot up the game to drop samples in holes mod in super credits to other players so they'll get banned and just be a menace.
Who are you quoting though?
Me.
Slop of the month game
why did you put a hammer and sickle over the white anglosaxon protestant liberal?
I'm not saying I'll quit the game today, but if this PSN requirement goes through, I'm done. I'm not giving them any other penny. Already left a negative review to voice my opinion. I'll move on and play something else. Maybe WarHam 3 or Valkyria Chronicles.
OH WE ARE THE VALIANT INFANTRY
I have over 300 games and a 41 game backlog. Giving up on Helldivers won't hurt me and the devs already got my money. If they're stupid, they'll kill the future of the game and any future DLC because the player base will drop by an easy 1/3rd when the PSN update goes live.
WE ARE THE ALPHA TEAM WITH PASSION AND CAMARADERIE
I don't get your reference. I'm getting too old. You don't even have a reaction face or anything.
he's saying you should play EDF instead of Helldivers
>he's saying you should play EDF instead of Helldivers
Do people still play EDF5?
Yes.
Edf has always been a dead on arrival game that needs you to find disxordtroons to have any online games going on
imagine if they could just not frick it up for once
>muh playercooooooonts
I wish this trend would die.
Yes, player counts do matter on a coop game moron. Unless you want to play them alone for some reason
You have friends, right?
That play some shitty dead on arrival niche game? No
Maybe its different in your zoomer circles
Your constant shitposting of EDF in Helldivers threads to try and gatekeep won't work.
I got EDF for free and it still sucks ass. All anime profile pic team mates on top of a bad game. Had more fun with the starship troopers game
HEAR US AS WE SHOUT AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS
BE CALM BE BOLD AND RAISE YOUR GUNS
>I'm getting too old
you clearly aren't if you have never heard about EDF before, zoomie.
WE'RE THE ALPHA TEAM WITH PASSION AND CAMARADERIE
I thought steam can censor bad reviews like for skull girls
That just removes* it from the total score, it doesn't delete the reviews, so it would go back up to 85% or whatever it was before the announcement, but with an asterisk.
They dont do it.
What they do is make a two tier system.
A censored one which they pretend everything is fine and one where the game got shat on.
You can put on your display options to always show bad reviews, but by default, steam would try to hide it from you.
Steam is still a store, they want to sell games, if they have to fool gamers, so be it.
I'm so confused. I thought you needed a PSN account since day one?
I literally couldn't play at first because my PSN account was banned. I had to contact support.
From what I understand:
>game was advertised needing a PSN account
>you needed a PSN account on the FIRST TWO DAYS
>game had a ton of technical issues on the first week so they immediately disabled that requirement
>so the past few months a majority of players on PC could play it without a PSN account and the game generally worked well without it
>suddenly this happens
>HD2 was being sold in 200 countries while only 70~ countries had PSN support
>the game works perfectly fine without PSN integration anyway
>every feels like they were rugpulled
>community manager talked back to the players
>drama ensues
>game was advertised needing a PSN account
Yes, but also no.
>Signing in is optional
Which implies you have to have an account.
This is why reading comprehension is important children.
Now frick off moron.
>Signing in at the beach entrance here is optional! Everyone's welcome, no matter where you're from! 🙂
Nice, let's go for a swim!
>WAIT WAIT UHH SIR(S) WAIT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SIGN IN THIS TIME (People from X, Y, Z etc countries are not allowed entrance)
no, it does not imply that
>signing in gets you these benefits
>however, it's optional
>but if you do it syncs across all games
Nothing about this says or even implies you must sign in. Not being dropped on your head is much more important as a child, sir.
If you want to be an absolute pedantic c**t, one could say that by signing into PSN in a different game, and it syncing across all games, signing into PSN in Helldivers is then indeed optional. Absolutely nobody is going to interpret it that way though.
no it doesn't
now go back to sucking SNOYS tiny wiener you braindead homosexual
YWNBAW
You are a worthless moron. This is why reading comprehension is important children.
How would any system ever be able to tell if you have an account if you're not required to sign into it?
Hello community manager
>>you needed a PSN account on the FIRST TWO DAYS
No you didn't. I bought the game the day it came out and the option to skip it was already there. So I never linked a PSN account.
>I thought you needed a PSN account since day one?
Nope, linking was disabled due to ~~*network issues*~~, ie bait and switch tactics to get people invested and then rugpull when snoy needed a numbers bump.
Couldn't have happened to a bigger group of insufferable homosexuals. Well deserved. Game was dogshit to begin with and their nonstop general threads here have been an absolute cancer.
shut up, tendie
Is there anything stopping Stellar Blade from getting GOTY now?
woke critics
Do DLCs count?
Yeah, being a shit game will do that.
Whatever Nintendo has for holiday season.
That's what I've been playing the last week, havin a frickin blast!
The asiatic fears the dolphin
all the critics and judges are woke, it will never be mentioned at those events, like how hogwarts legacy wasn't
>35,000 negative reviews
Why are PC gaymers like this?
Because of you, anon. It was your fault all along, no one else's.
Standards. PC gamers will happily pay $25 for the latest DLC garbage but you better not make them sign up for another fricking worthless online account. And God forbid your game doesn't have custom keybinds enabled.
Meanwhile console players will eat anything and everything the corpos feed them.
This game has fricking spyware Kernel-level anti-cheat, PC players have no standards or dignity.
I didn't say they were very high standards.
Kernel-level anti-cheat spyware is way below anything console babies would endure. They're the only ones bravely keeping physical media alive.
There's already a mod to remove the anticheat.
And it will be patched out and players that use it will be banned, like it has happened with every other multiplayer game. If you willingly paid real money for a game with Kernel-level spyware you already abandoned your dignity and anything else you fight for will be performative whining.
>And it will be patched out and players that use it will be banned
Good luck lol. They can't ban jack shit because nobody has a sn0y account currently because of arrowheads server frickup.
They can already ban players on Steam.
>In order to ensure the best possible online multiplayer experience, Valve allows developers to implement their own systems that detect and permanently ban any disruptive players, such as those using cheats.
Tell that to the helldiver devs
That sounds like they fricked up, because most games already track your Steam ID.
they're lying to justify this sony data mining nonsense. companies have always been able to ban players in steam without going to valve.
Sounds like they are mad as frick i make the most racists names and say the most racists shit online
Are they moronic or just fricking lying because you STEAM ID is readily apparent to every fricking Steam game and unique to each person regardless of their username
not just every steam game, every steam user.
Go search for someone to add as a friend, the profile has a unique number attached to it.
They're straight up just lying
those moronic fricks lmao
30 seconds of browsing steamworks api doc
> You can retrieve the current user's SteamID by calling ISteamUser::GetSteamID and then retrieve the 64-bit ID by calling CSteamID.ConvertToUint64() on the returned value.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/auth
>devs are so moronic they didn't implement a way to see the steamID or IP's or literally anything
these clowns are so fricking dumb, with their fricking garbage excuses and shitty anti-cheat which does literally nothing, i'm surprised players can even store savedata with how fricking stupid spitz is
they seriously need to just tell him to shut up or hire someone else, silence would be fricking better
valve is obsessed with analytics
there is no way in hell developers don't have access to exact player counts. this is just pure damage control
I'm pretty sure steam Ids are very easily tracked.
>Steam doesn't allow
Reading comprehension is hard, huh thirdie
Steam allows developers to get unique identifiers of users in the form of steam ids. It's built right into steam's API. The idea that steam doesn't allow this is a flat out lie.
Literally every other non-valve game on steam does not have this problem. It is clearly a lie.
>game devs not being aware of the unique steamID number
jesus christ we can't be in this timeline
As usual, they never know what the frick they are talking about by making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Only enabling crossplay should require linking a PSN account. How difficult could that possibly be to implement?
It's been 3 months and adding/removing friends from the in-game friend's list still doesn't work right.
>too lazy to implement steam API
>so you implement PSN API instead
Genius!
And yet, 450,000 accounts named John don't get each other's kill stats and unlocks. Curious.
Almost as if the displayed name is actually not the key identifier used for querying or posting data to a player's record.
He's lying. The first post is bullshit to try and justify the decision, the 2nd post 20 minutes later is more honest. Sony likely wants the ability to ban users without oversight from steam, and much more easily, so they want psn attached. also likely for some shareholders meeting and he's lying to his customers cause he assumes they're stupid.
With how controlling these gays are and snoy too i legit believe this is about having a method of permabanning people without having to talk to valve/steam in any way and bring all their thought police policies PC side.
Wouldn't surprise me with how they were acting to all the democracy memes
>We aren't owned by sony, we just happen to need sony permission to ban people
If only steam had some kind of unique Steam ID to track players
They're mad that valve doesnt ban people for saying Black person.
sauce or gay
only thing i know of is theres a thing that delays gameguard initialization so you have time to inject stuff
>standards
ah yes, locked 30FPS and 720p maximum resolution without mods, very positive, lol
And yet the game is so good it makes up for those flaws, without those flaws it would be overwhelming
half of those reviews have dsfix installed
You can't buy that version anymore
Guys if we just review bomb every game they'll be forced to make good ones... Right..? Right?!?!
See
As long as mindless sheeple outnumber us 100 to 1, that will never happen.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see if an actual boycott would work but zoomie zooms don't have it in them to do that. They MUST consoom.
they made a good game, but Sony's here to set the record straight even though they finally have a profitable game on their hands. It's never enough for them.
INFINITE PROFIT
INFINITE DATA HARVESTING
INFINITE GROWTH GREEN LINE KEEP GOING UP AT ALL COSTS
This comment doesn't really apply since the people that bought it from day 1 til about a month ago wouldn't be able to refund anyway.
Unless they raise a massive stink at Steam refunds altogether...
Probably wouldn't change anything but it'd be nice to pull Valve in the tub for shits and giggles though.
>Still 107k playing as of right this second
Woah.
Almost as if community outrage means literally fricking nothing in this consumerist world. When has a vidya protest ever amounted to literally fricking anything?
Corpos don't give a shit regardless of how loud you cry. They do what they want and they always get away with it thanks to mindless consumers. There's no winning here.
Update hasn't dropped yet morons.
And this essentially kills the momentum of the game because it's a live service and they've been waning players since.
Why are you underestimating the brainlessness of NPC sheeple?
see
It's fricking Joever.
I don't get how this is any different to Microsoft games requiring Xbox accounts, or EA requiring Origin/EA App accounts, or the slim few Epic games that got pulled from Steam requiring Epic accounts for legacy owners, or... etc.
>what about all the people who don't have PSN in their country
IMAGINE caring about third worlders lmao
PSN gets hacked the most
but what does that matter? Even if they stored passwords in plain text, you'd have to be a complete moron to use the same password across multiple services
i sure love spam mails
>hurr durr use a second email
already do but it's still annoying
This is unironically a big issue here. Wasn't it revealed a while back that they had passwords and accounts in a plain encrypted text file or something? Shit is massively incompetent.
unencrypted*
Xbox and EA never asked me for a picture of my face or my ID.
yes, the UK is a police state dystopia, we're well aware, but what specifically does that have to do with PSN as opposed to the UK's latest draconian measures? Those morons expect to roll out the same face scan or ID to access porn sites in the near future
Almost all of those started out asking those third party accounts instead of doing so months after release. Even the games that had that requirement from day one, that was a dealbreaker for many.
Are you implying people didn’t and don’t complain about that shit? Are you moronic or an actual shill?
love seeing game developers get their asses blown out like this. "but we're le making fun of empires not le glorifying them!" what a homosexual game for gay morons on reddit.
>me managing my democracy
>all of this is just due to having to log in to PSN
imagine if it was something that actually mattered and affected gameplay
PSN is shit
>40k neg reviews in a day, 200 average reviews per day prior to that
spit my drink out seeing that red line. love seeing businesses get fricked by making dumbass decisions.
Right before I read the post I read this one...whats the deal with people almost spitting there drink out?
LEAVY SNOY ALONE!!!!
clown farmers are so annoying, the forums were bad enough without them
>leave britney alone
You call that a review bomb? You have to expand, start leaving bad reviews on every website possible.
literally all they had to do was tell steam autists that they get a free playstation game like the first horizon or a free month of PSN or some shit when they signed up but instead they made it mandatory like some kind of moronic homosexualry which to be honest i think this is all a massive INFO GRAB by the ZOG jap gov't to steal telemetry from russians and americans
Not just that, they could've had a meta-newsletter reminding players on when the grace period for PSN accounts will stop. Gachas do this much for their players, why the frick is it different for GaaS games?
YEAH TRUE i agree w the rest of the replies here except i bet it was even worse than that like they asked chatgpt what the best move would be and this was the suggestion lmao
Anyone get steam to give a refund yet?
Why would they give a refund? They're just going to call you illiterate. Your fault for buying a game with spyware to begin with.
yes. just cite european anti-consumer laws and keep appealing. took me two times (first time i didn't site european anti-consumer practice laws or specify the third party account rugpull)
What specifically did you say?
Post proof of refund. You won't though because you're an anti managed democratic commie
Is the refund really worth the bootlicking of tyrants you have to do to get it?
gay redditor fotm slop, looking forward to them continuing to squeeze the game for worse “features,” less of them, and more MTX until you losers finally have enough and move on to your new troony zoomer fotm slop
Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.
Hopefully the entire game history goes to the red.
*mic drop*
VOX POP
diverbros, are we the baddies?
If reddit hates this it must be a good thing.
No if Twitter likes it, it's a bad thing. Reddit + Ganker solidarity, one struggle.
Did you morons revert the definition of "vaccine" and "inflation" to what it was before 2020?
We were always at war with Eurasia
homosexuals really watermark everything huh?
need to needful the updoots breh
I'm doing my part
Further proving that PC is not a platform worth catering too. Start to throw tantrums the moment anything inconveniences them. Theres a reason there hasn’t been a worthy PC exclusive in over 10 years and will never be one again.
post nose
>Further proving that PC is not a platform worth catering too
Is that why sony has been presenting their butthole to steam for the last 12+ months and continue to do so?
as copes go, it's uncommonly pathetic
>several year old games that are no longer raking in profit for sony.
You guys are so starved for good games and not shovelware that you consider these a delicacy.
“Presenting themselves to Steam” lmao the games are like 2 years old.
>Start to throw tantrums the moment anything inconveniences them.
things shouldn't be inconveniencing me
it's a video game
Why are you crying about consumers having standards? no one likes this shit, they have a right to complain about it, especially when it's fricking rug pulled from under them. Why don't you go suck more sony wiener while they remove shit from your library lmao
Steam does this too you dumb Black person. You dont own the game you own the license for a game.
That's funny, all of my games are still right here. Isn't it weird how this cope is thrown at me constantly while I only see it happening to you? I mean, at least you "own" your games with physical, right? Right??
“I only see it happening to you”
Which game? Which game has sony removed from someones library?
When steam delists a game you own they don't take your copy of it away.
>clickbait article that ended up being wrong again
Every time
They're literally trying to leech off of PC for their player numbers.
It was alway obvious though. Why else would they start to release some playstation games on steam?
It's to get pc players comfortable to with the brand and maybe decide to also buy a console to play on the couch.
this is not psn, you don't need to upload pictures of your face to post in here
I hope it gets all time shit reviews, they are falling fast as frick 😛
XD true anon :3
Chuds claim to want authoritarian society but then get mad when the authorities tell them to stop be being racist and to start using the pronouns.
What gives?
I don't give a fuk about your newest outrage slop I just want to point out that
> managed democracy
would precisely avoid this kind of scenario since citizens would specifically NOT be allowed to express their discontent.
Nice media literacy
That's the point OP was making, yes.
I think what's moronic is that sony should've made it so you get some sort of reward or benefit to linking your sony account to helldivers 2 instead of forcing everyone into their ecosystem like this all at once.
it would've been way more easier to slowly ease the audience instead of this moronic strategy.
If they'd tried to work with Valve for a solution to the banning issue that didn't involve this, the reaction would have been in the complete inverse. "We're announcing the removal of the need to make a PSN account for this game."
No. This has to do with PS+ They want you to pay for this shit on a subscription.
They did the same thing with Infantry and it killed it.
I've been thinking these past few minutes.
With all the connectivity problems HD2 has and the crossplay with snoy being possible, HD2 probably doesn't use steamworks for mp, it probably uses PSN and some sort of guest credentials.
Also hence why the servers were brought to their knees on launch. Snoys shitty servers just couldn't handle all the pc traffic.
So the stuff from snoy about them being unable to track steamids is probably true because they're not exposed to matchmaking.
Even if their bullshit excuse about tracking player IDs is true, they're ignoring the obvious solution staring at them in the face.
All they would have to do is make crossplay opt-in, requiring a PSN ID. No player with a functioning brain would have any issue with this whatsoever. The fact that Arrowhead couldn't figure this out means they deserve all of the blowback, not just greedy Sony executives.
Of course, this is all assuming in good faith that moderation is ACTUALLY the issue and not just a smokescreen for additional data collection and pumping PSN numbers. Either way both Arrowhead and Sony can frick themselves.
Literally the only reason Sony forced this is so they could pad out their fricking PSN numbers for investors.
The game worked fine for months without it why does it suddenly need it now?
>M-MUH BANNING CHEATERS
It's a fricking PvE game. Let people have fun. Jesus.
Im essentially guaranteed a full refund for a game i thoroughly enjoyed and am now bored of...
You're not and won't, moron
FOTM just SLOPPED and FLOPPED
I do not play this game, whats happening?
Arrowhead are incompetent morons who temporarily bypassed the PS+ subscription requirement to play this game because they couldn't get it to work properly out the gate.
Now they're walking it back.
It's worse than that. They waited until they already had people's money and the game had already been owned long enough that no one can get refunds before deciding to frick with everyone.
Mustard race turd worlders forced to make a free psn account to play the game. That's it.
Entire day full of schizo ramblings about data collection and slippery slopes over this.
>bait and switch anti-consumer behavior is totally cool!
>I love sony!
It takes a long time to cultivate good will from any community, but it only takes an instant to ruin all that. This image perfectly encapsulates that idea.
>what do you mean they haven't removed the reviews yet?
>... but we were REVIEW BOMBED for NO REASON..
>REMOVE THE SCORES NOW!!!
honestly no idea why steam's gay ass anti-bomb shield hasn't kicked in yet
>Get mixed reviews because the servers shit the bed the first week
>Work your way up to very positive reviews over the next 3 months
>Tank the score to mixed/Mostly Negative in 36 hours
KWAB
It normally takes a couple days iirc
Why the frick is everything a bait and switch these days? Is this the end stage of video games? An industry that relies wholly on dishonesty cannot stand forever.
Is the Finals fun? that game required an account to play so I never played it
No.
it's great fun, and embark's service is nothing like sony's
I don't even know what the frick this is. Why do you braindead zoomers always create fake controversies?
>fake controversies?
make a psn account and upload your face scan + gov id or you can no longer play the game
don't live in a country that has psn? no game for you that you bought
The Ratclicker watches and smiles, as another co-op game shoots itself in the foot.
>DRG's update got vastly larger than initially intended
>they did a 180 on keeping the game in maintenance and focusing on the spinofs
Did they know?
CREATE THE PSN ACCOUNT BLOODY BASTERD
I CANT SONY TOLD ME TO STOP EATING PAGPAG
are you motherfrick ? are you idiot? matachod u will redeem... NOW
now if only the nips could make an EDF game that wasn't arcane nip nonsense instead of re-releasing the exact same game for full price with four or five changes every couple years they could steal the thunder from these buttholes
if you have one of the largest audiences ever in gaming history and you are trying to frick them over, you should have informed your CMs on what to say and not to say
i hope it crushes and burns
no sympathy for morons
and i say this as someone with 200hrs in the game - uninstalled yesterday
Make sure you request a refund or its just posturing. And include the fact you're forced to use a THIRD PARTY ACCOUNT to be able to keep playing.
>Make sure you request a refund or its just posturing
you are correct and i will, i'm just waiting for the massive herd to start doing it because i've seen steam is denying a lot of requests from strugglers right now
These companies should stop outsourcing their public image to early 20s pill-addled zoomer b***hes.
>muh nerds making games aren't good at talking
Better than these vindictive c**ts.
Swedes have always been arrogant morons. They thought they didn't have to prepare themselves for the rest of the planet to comb through their behavior.
We're playing, no problem
no one cares Black person
constantly posting these images proves how insecure you are btw
>tfw can't tell if this is a 3 day nothingburger or if this actually spells doom for HD2
The review score tanked and the CEO was pissed off at that so its already a somethingburger. Keking if they would've got bonuses after a certain time for a positive score.
Wouldn't surprise me. It's Sony, after all.
>we really don't want to pay these fricks after they outshine us completely
>hmm.. I'VE GOT IT!
Going from overwhelmingly positive to mostly negative recent and mixed overall is the kind of frick up that heavily impacts sales over time.
Unless those reviews all get nuked, which itself will cause a subsequent shitstorm, it's already something.
>Unless those reviews all get nuked, which itself will cause a subsequent shitstorm
I would put money on nuke happening.
Its not going to get hit by the anti review bomb lmao
Especially when the case is so cut and dry
Arrowhead is desperately trying to deflect it all to Sony
Steam automatically does it after a certain time when it detects a large number of negative reviews. You can blame game devs for that change.
>cultural-defining game like HD2 had been
Its literally DRG 2
If it was going to happen they would have done so already.
Valve rarely nukes review bombs unless they're politically motivated or blatant raids, which this demonstrably isn't.
moronic Black folk that infest companies nowadays don't understand consequences on a long term scale. They only grasp things in the present. The fact that the money made from HD2 will eventually go away, and that more money will need to be made in the future flies over their non-human heads. This will ensure that in the future they have to work harder to regain the trust, or make new customers, and after they just fricked over 10 million customers in a genre, industry, and cultural-defining game like HD2 had been. They caught the golden goose and cracked it's neck in under 12 weeks. Con-grat-u-fricking-lations, you fricking morons.
They senselessly fired this off friday night as well without any communication so no ones going to do anything until monday on snoys end.
Masterclass in frickups.
Their numbers have been steadily dropping, but this weekend has seen a 50k drop in players vs last Friday, thus far. The peak is always on Sunday. We haven't even seen the real damage yet.
I mean I stopped playing last month when they dropped three consecutive patches making the gunplay and strats purposely less fun while we *STILL* have dozens of launch bugs. The friends list in a co op game being completely broken almost 4 months later is mindbottling and they've just made no attempt to fix it.
That all depends on what happens the day it goes into effect. The majority of players won't be aware of the whole shitstorm, but if they start up the game and get told to make a new account with Sony, many will just close the game and play something else.
Social media/Reddit/Discord complaints are one thing, but this would be a tangible quit-moment that every PC would see.
Not to mention that the negative reviews and bad press will affect future sales of the game and the state of the community.
Only less than 10% of people who bought a game bother to leave a review, now imagine the day when the block comes live, and the 90% of the players get locked, and go to the reviews to see what's going on and it's just red fields.
you tell me
https://store.steampowered.com/developer/playstationstudios/
Just a heads up you can head on over here and ignore them, and you won't be notified unless they pay for a steam banner ad
And you can ignore the developer here:
https://store.steampowered.com/developer/arrowhead
what do you mean ignore them bro?
this won't stop it popping up when opening the game
It means if they ever make games or DLC in the future you won't be shown them
You could also possibly ask Valve for a refund.
>And you can ignore the developer here:
>https://store.steampowered.com/developer/arrowhead
To be fair, had I realised sooner Arrowhead were the developers behind Magicka and Gauntlet I would't have bought HD2, I do not like their "style of fun" lack of critical bug fixing and the increase in frustration playing HD2 in the last month and a half is perfectly explained now.
Oh they made Magicka? Holy shit that explains a lot.
Yeah their thing is having to play ddr to use your skills.
I had the combo for lightning bolt in muscle memory.
Shame snoys just killed HD2.
ah i didn't know that was a thing, now to add EA and Ubisoft
>devs forced to have PSN accounts by Snoy because Snoy want to inflate PSN numbers
>devs now have to damage control for Snoy
>Snoy gets away with it
>Snoy gets away with it
Sony isnt getting away with it, this is their attempt to get a registration spike to show investors so they dont ape out as much. Reminder, Xbox is in deep shit and Playstation is in even deeper shit.
I can't wait to tell my grandchildrens how I participated in the steam review wars of 2024
>SIR. SIR PLEASE. DO NOT REFUND THE GAME. DO NOT REFUND
we need to make consoles uncool to save videogames
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY STOP REVIEW BOMBING THE GAME GOYIM. all this ruckus because you're afraid of taking a picture? grow up you anti-semites!
Blizzard did the same thing on console with Overwatch. It never required a battle.net account before overwatch 2. And you can't also call overwatch 2 a brand new game.
It wasn't cool, but every one just created an account and went on with it. I don't really understand why pc players always have a meltdown like this.
Because PC players actually have standards.
Console player + Blizzard fan is the best combination of braindead consumers
You also never see consoles complain that their games run at 30fps with stutters, but on Steam they would rightfully get shit on for it.
They never cared about framerate and claimed 24 fps with drops and stutter was more cinematic and better than 60+ fps. Also genuinely believed, or coped they way into believing that high framerates were placebo and could not be seen. Until their god SONY started advertising it.
I'm pretty sure they STILL believe that stupid fricking AVGN trite about "keyboards are for work, controllers are for play"
They never cared about load times or SSDs either, until SONY started advertising it. Then they were suddenly very smug over their uh... super fast quantum SSDS that outperform any PC (lol).
Disingenuous or moronic, I don't know. But they are braindead consumer cattle all the same.
>I don't really understand why pc players always have a meltdown like this.
A man chooses, a slave obeys.
Now would you kindly make the battle.net account?
Can I get a quick rundown on what tf is going on? All i've seen from both threads is something about refunding the game and its a scam? And a hack?
You're forced to make a PSN account and sony is getting real fricking weird about the data collection they're demanding.
>which in some regions requires sending your photo ID to Sony for age verification, or isn't available
Lmao, what the frick? Fricking swedes
The game is going to stop working on PC next week unless you link your steam account with a PSN account. Lots of people don't want a PSN account, which in some regions requires sending your photo ID to Sony for age verification, or isn't available etc. There were no reminders before yesterday that this was going to happen, which was a bit of a PR blunder.
It's for new players only next week, for all account by end of month.
The only democratic move in the 21st century and it was for vidya
GOD I LOVE DEMOCRACY!
Put it in the red untill the PSN autism is removed. Dont stop.
Stellar blade and this shit one after the other. Hope people wake up and start seeing Sony as the obnoxious, intrusive, greedy, awful company it is and stop buying their stuff for good. Sorry devs if you want my money you're going to need to work with a different company. I own a playstation 5, I do not buy anything for it. I refuse to buy inferior products locked behind an exclusivity deal, especially when they take advantage of their position to force developers to change their games for the worse for no reason. Not linking my steam to a sony account. Your company is trash and you will eat the cost of the consumer discontent you've bred sooner or later.
Game deleted, negative review left behind. Skip means skip.
EDF devs should put their games on sale now
>Random indie devs can figure out how to ban people using their SteamID
>Arrowhead can't
How are player profiles stored currently?
By username or something since renaming yourself on steam breaks/broke the friend list.
>mostly negative
Holy shit lol
How many jesters on the announcement post?
nearly 7000
its just another example of the loud minority of pc players being moronic.
>minority
>80% of the playerbase
>minority of pc players
I would rather say a minority of players on ps5.
>60% of sales
>80% of the active playerbase
Why don't pskeks play their games?
haven't you seen the steamdb players and comparing them with the total in game players? very few play on ps5, the vast majority play on pc.
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1785696137804210201
>barely any players on PS5
>STILL their top game
this tickles me fiercely
>pass user calling anyone moronic
>literally have one of the biggest hits of the year so far
>already one of their BEST selling Sony games in history because of PC
>choose to piss off the PC playerbase en masse
>boundless goodwill instantly disappear in 24 hours
What the FRICK did Sony mean by this? They literally had a fricking easy ass slamduck that they could have rode for the rest of the year and beyond. This is so fricking moronic.
Gotta pump those PSN numbers for the upcoming shareholders meeting.
They have zero internal communication and probably thought throwing this out on a friday afternoon and then signing off for the weekend would go over without a hitch.
Nevermind thinking to ask Arrowhead.
After all, it's just *product*.
SENDING IN AN EAGLE!
What happened?