>Dragon God
>Ornstein and Smough
>Dark Lurker
>Defiled Amygdala
>Darkeater Midir
>Isshin the Sword Saint
>Malenia, Blade of Miquella
Hardest boss in every From game
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>dragon god
Stopped reading right there
The first troll from dark souls 2. It took me 5 hours. Wasn't even a boss.
Was it your first souls game?
No, I played dark souls 1 and beat the tutorial boss. I gave up after that cause the game sucked and was boring.
What other contributions would you like to make to the thread
I played DS1 and DS2 with a keyboard. I bought Bloodborne for $15 off ebay after Ganker shilled for it hard, and got bored of it in 2 hours and went back to Dark Souls 3 on PC.
>Dragon God
literally a cutscene boss , I would say false king allant or flamelurker are harder
>Ornstein and Smough
all the dlc bosses are harder
>Dark Lurker
ancient dragon , fume knight , sir alonne , sith ,
>Defiled Amygdala
haven't played BB
>Darkeater Midir
sure
>Isshin the Sword Saint
personally I found demon of hatred to be harder
>Malenia, Blade of Miquella
totally agree , with mohg being a close 2nd
I beat Flamelurker and False King on my first try, but Dragon God killed me 3 times. The numbers don't lie.
it's a gimmick boss , it's only hard until you know what to do
>all the dlc bosses are harder
wrong. O&S will kill you fast no matter how high your poise is. Manus, etc. you can just stand there hit them.
>poise
poise was only useful when dealing with the capra demon otherwise you better be waving that zwei naked
This tbh, I killed manus first try by just spamming chug and r1 whereas ons fucked me up even with poise
Manus? Sure, potentially. 4 Kings? Yes. Artorias? Fuck no.
Artorias is ez pz what are you talking about?
I said Artorias was overrated and easy, the other two are way harder.
>personally I found demon of hatred to be harder
The hardest boss for most people will be Demon of Hatred or Sword Saint Isshin depending on their playstyle. I think it's more common for Sword Saint Isshin to be the hardest though. I think the next most common for a person's hardest boss experience are Father Owl and Guardian Ape. I don't know why Father Owl makes some people really struggle, but I do know that it's something about the way Guardian Ape moves that totally throws some folks off and they just can't make any progress unless they grok it.
A lot of people go through the whole game waiting for their "turn" instead of being aggressive and defending on reaction.
Owl (Father) is easily the most difficult boss in the game. It's no contest. I never understood the meme about DoH being difficult. He telegraphs his attacks really well, he's fairly slow, and you can deal huge damage to him between his attacks if you can the distance.
no isshin harder
3 phases; and a gun
doh is easy use the firecrackers
His phases are easy though. 2 phases are not that different from each other, and they offer generous windows for attacking him. Patience is key.
Even if you're super aggressive you can only get in max 1 or 2 attacks before he moves to his next attack sequence and his stamina recovers very quickly. You have to whittle away at him so slowly.
Owl (Father) was hard until I went super aggressive at him. When I was playing passive/defensive he would wear me out but getting in his face and forcing the issue made it 100 times easier. DoH made me want to throw my fucking PC tower out the window
You clearly haven't fought the Inner version of Father (Owl) from the update
for me it's Isshin
i tried whole weekend to beat him only to fail, take a week long break from the game to try again, and then i'd beat him after 3 or 4 tries
Owl (father) i figured out after few hours. but when i figured him out i was able to get to second phase without losing any HP, and then i would die over and over to his weird magic attacks, definitely one of my most favorite fights ever
>Sword Saint Isshin depending on their playstyle
More like depending on how shit you are at the game.
Sword Saint Isshin is a fucking joke compared to the demon of hatred if you actually know how to play.
Isshin even shares this thing with his grandson where his third phase basically gifts you the win, and the hardest phase is actually 2.
Of course if you never learned how to properly pull off thunder reversal, mikiri counter, or even how to parry correctly, basically if you are so much of a shitter that by the time you have to beat THE FINAL BOSS you never learned how to play, sure the final boss will fuck you up.
I 3 shotted mogh, his attacks are easy to dodge but Maliketh filtered me because all of a sudden I was fat rolling when I had been using the same gear for 60 levels and didn’t feel like regearing. Fuck the finicky shit stat system of Dark Souls. Just have a game with classes weapons and armor, then all the gay no lifers who study Reddit meta guides would get filtered easier.
>anything but Ornstein and Smough
at least say Gwyn, there is nothing awfully special about the DLC bosses
>Malenia
wrong, its Margit. The only reason people this didn't made people mass quit is because you can easily powercreep through him this early in the game, but if you take this as an counterargument you might as well summon the meme guy for Miqaella
Margit has openings that last for year and a half, does little damage and has no poise resistance meaning he stance breaks every other r2. It's one of the easiest bosses as long as you don't mash the circle button like a ds3tard
Margit is seriously not that hard, he's completely fair, and even weak to ccw circle strafing. All those delayed attacks people like to complain about, just circle strafe, super easy. People are just shit at the game. Same reason only 60% of players make it past vordt, the average gamer just sucks.
isshin is tough but I think once you get a good grasp on how deflect works then demon of hatred becomes the hardest boss
I say this because fighting DoH felt very different from any other boss in the game, plus he hits like a truck and is tanky as fuck
friede was the hardest for me by far in ds3. beat midir in 5 tries.
>des
Flamelurker and his janky hitboxes
>das
BoC, i always get knocked at least once.
>das2
Probably 2kat
>bb
Defiled hotdog
>das3
Friede only for the 3rd phase.
>sekiro
Eh, i guess DoH because of the bloated healthpool
>er
That lady but i cant recall her name for some reason
Undead Giants are much harder in cursed chalices than the dog. Pthumerian Elders are also more of a pain in the ass.
>2kat
>Harder than 1 kat
No. One barely has any health and if you defeated the first these two are no problem because you have their patterns memorized already.
v does not know what a defiled amygdala is. Also Manus is significantly harder than O&S, and Alonne is harder than Darklurker
>Manus harder than O&S
finally someone sane, O&S might have been hard blind when DS came out because people didn't realize kill one and the other gets stronger mode, but that's it. Personally I feel like demon in pain and bellow is like 100x harder l, but that might because I went knives only in ds3 with no magic.
Also
>Owl Father
I always found Manus to be a pushover, I barely remember the fight.
Gael and friede are both harder than midir. Midir is like fire giant but without the shit parts. Easy to dodge and only hard because damage and large HP pool.
>Defiled Amygdala
This asshole is probably the hardest boss in any of these games, but he never gets talked about.
Never though defiled Amy to be that tough, as long as you keep your distance it will never hit you.
The one in that cramped room makes if very difficult though. Still can't beat it consistently like every other Bloodborne boss. The only contender would be defiled Pthumerian Descendant, but you can parry him.
These bozos didn't level their Arcane
Yeah I just snipe the fucker with bowblade every time, fuck that noise.
I literally beat him first try blood starved beast, Gascoigne and Ebiertas now those are hard
Amygdala is way easier to cheese than the defiled watchdog is. With the dog you have to be literally perfect or you get one shot
>Never played DeS
>O&S
>Blue smelter demon
>Orphan of Kos
>Darkeater Midir
>Demon of Hatred
>Malenia
What a terrible fan-art. It's clear the sword is built into her machine hand, you know like the whole "the sword is a part of you" samurai cliche. And also you get the sword for yourself like in many souls games, the boss weapon is a detached part of the boss.
I only finished each game once so i don't remember all names; anyway these are all first run hardest bosses for me personally:
Des
>old king
Das
>ornstein smough
Das2
>fume knight
Das3
>that optional flying dragon boss (forgot the name)
BB
>final boss
Sekiro
>final boss
Elden Ring
>malenia
moon or gherman?
Gherman i think?
The old guy in the flower field
beat gael first try, sister freide took 20 attempts
I fucking DESPISE people who say Midir is difficult
If you think Midir is hard you either
>fought him in co-op
or
>targetted his legs or tail instead of his head
Midir is a positioning check. If you are positioned properly (in front of his head, attacking only the head) he is unironically one of the easiest bosses in the entire Souls franchise. Almost every single attack he has can be dodged by WALKING backwards. Motherfucking Abyss Watchers require more mechanical skill to beat than Midir, but for some reason everybody freaks out about him.
He is piss easy and I’m exhausted from seeing him on top of LE HARDEST BOSSES lists
Midir for me is a pain mostly because his 2 minute long spazz out attack chains annoy me into taking stupid risks just to speed up the fight
This tbh. Midir has a lot of health so you’ll eventually slip up
Slave Knight Gael wasn't the hardest boss but god fucking damn it he was one of the coolest fights
I spent a shit ton of time helping people with that fight because I liked it too much
>defiled amygdala
>not frc abhorrent beast
ngmi
>amygdala
>literally unable to touch you after entering 2nd phase
?
The pthumerian fuck holding the two scythes is actual bullshit
>Dragon God
I refuse to participate in a thread created by a retard beyond calling him a retard.
I can't remember exactly why as it was 4 years ago, but I distinctly remember DoH taking me way more tries than Sword Saint.
And I demolished Owl(Father) for some reason.
>no orphan
God
>didn't play
>Manus
>NG+ Elana
>didn''t play
>Demon Prince
>SSI
>Malenia
>Flamelurker
>Manus
>Darklurker
>Orphan of Kos
>Friede
>Malenia
>Defiled Amygdala
fuck I'm still mad
Allant
Manus
Dark Lurker
Loran Camerabeast or NG7 Laurence
Midir
Demon of Hatred
Malenia
Probably bed of chaos is the hardest in the series. I've died more to that asshole than every other in the series combined. And the walk sucks.
>DeS
Maneaters for sure but only because of their arena and how they always ran off the side like dumbasses, forcing you to wait upwards of 15 seconds for them to come back on just for them to do it again. They aren’t really a duo fight because killing the first one before the 2nd fully arrives isn’t that hard, and they don’t have a difficult moveset. Your deaths will just be from being knocked off. Btw, If Old King Doran counts in your books as a boss then it easily replaces these guys if you don’t cheese him.
>DS1
Bed of Chaos. Technically in DeS my most deaths in first playthrough were against dragon god but that’s just cause I did him with like 15 vigor and I just had to do the bait and switch tactic for the fists, but I’ve never died to him again in my 5 or so playthroughs after that. but bed of chaos still pisses me off despite being a gimmick.
>DS2
This game is easy so it’s kinda hard to say. Nothing killed me much. Uhhhhh herp a derp a derp
>Bloodborne
Orphan of Kos but actually it’s picrel.
>DeS3
Friede. This actually changes the most depending on how I’m playing, like SL1 I think soul of cinder is harder but normally friede is. Midir and Gael are pretty easy I think.
>Sekiro
Never played. Will one day
>Elden Ring
Malenia, no surprise there. Hardest SL1 fight I’ve done, but I don’t think she’s a bad boss like I see many say. If you want a more unique answer than it’s SL1 Horoah. Only horoah though, Godfrey is easy cause he has a consistent pace.
Maneaters or False King are the hardest boss in DeS
Burnt Ivory King or whatever is way harder than easy ass Darklurker
Amygdala is also easy, technically hardest ones are by far some max depth chalice dungeon bosses, but in main content its definitely Ludwig or Orphan
My contrarian opinion is that Isshin is not that difficult. You should know how to deflect by that point in the game and the 3rd phase is almost a victory lap with the lightning reversal. Demon of Hatred is way more challening since he is a Bloodborne boss stuck in the wrong game and you have tighter dodge windows.
>Maneater
>Manus
>Ancient Dragon (for hp)
>Ebrietas
>Friede
>Demon of Hatred
>Malenia
>Dragon God
Allant
>Ornstein and Smough
Manus
>Dark Lurker
Triple gank gays or 2kats
>Defiled Amygdala
Defiled Elder
>Darkeater Midir
Yes
>Isshin the Sword Saint
Onryoki, i mean, Demon of Hatred
>Malenia, Blade of Miquella
Yes
DeS
>none the bosses are all easy
DaS
>Manus
DaS2
>Sir Allone
DaS3
>Darkeater Midir
Bloodborne
>Orphan or some of the defiled chalice bosses
Sekiro
>Isshin
Elden Ring
>Malenia or Maliketh
I'm afraid you missed like 20+ games there.
Maneaters
Bed of Chaos
Ancient Dragon
Gael
Orphan of Kos
Owl (Father)
Maliketh
Because those are the only From games apparently.
Midir is probably the only boss in the game I feel is just complete bullshit. You can be playing as well as you can and he can just start spazzing out and covering the screen.
and Smough
piss shit and cum easy literally just havel+zweihander face tank everything and spam r2
Midir
piss shit and cum easy literally just stay in front of his face and his dumb AI will do nothing but swipe/bite attacks (dont even need to dodge those due to terrible tracking)
the Sword Saint
rhythm game
, Blade of Miquella
artificial difficulty created by the fact its literally sekiro boss copy pasted into the wrong game where you dont have the tools necessary to actually fight it properly (deflect) so you have to resort to gimmick/cheese shit like bloodhound step, fast roll or running around to bait the attack from distance
I have a top 3 hardest for each game according to how many times each boss has killed me. I kept track of my deaths. This is as objective as it gets.
>Dark Souls 1
Manus: 9 deaths
Kalameet: 6 deaths
Artorias: 5 deaths
>Dark Souls 2
Fume Knight: 20 deaths
Sir Alonne: 17 deaths
Aava: 12 deaths
>Bloodborne
Orphan: 28 deaths
Ludwig: 18 deaths
Vicar Amelia: 13 deaths
>Dark Souls 3
Pontiff: 26 deaths
Friede: 23 deaths
Midir: 20 deaths
>Sekiro
Inner Father: 31 deaths
Inner Genichiro: 19 deaths
Demon of Hatred: 14 deaths
>Elden Ring
Malenia: 226 deaths
Radagon/Elden Beast: 56 deaths
Godfrey/Hoarah Loux: 48 deaths
You are pretty bad at this, no offense, but I had to point it out. I killed Friede on my first try and I'm not even bragging, it's just what happened. How can tou die 200+ times to Malenia? You learn nothing to mistakes or what is going on here? Are you trying to beat the game at lvl. 1???
Who can say. Maybe I'm getting worse at games
bro don't take shit from anon, it also took me +200 times
the cunt saying your bad is the same cunt who complains the boss is "breaking the rules", "from a different game","only beatable if you use cheap gimmicks like she does " has 50+vigor and uses mimic
Nope. I went full STR, no great runes, no summons, capped at lvl 100 and that bitch took me more than 40 tries for sure. It was hard, I had to change the weapon I was using and memorize all her moves, but that's it. 40+ tries, maybe 50. Elden Ring was my "first" souls, since I played DS2 a long time ago and Margit filtered me hard. I'm not a pro or anything, I just recognize I need to learn from fights, not try the same over and over again
>intentionally gimping yourself for no reason other than your personal autism
It's a foolproof defense though. You can't criticize someone for dying a lot if they fought a boss in a way that made it harder than the way you fought the boss. Saying someone is bad at the game because they died more than you while playing on a harder difficulty than you is nonsense. Sure, you could question their decision to impose restrictions on themselves, but at the end of the day, they still fought the boss in a way that made it way harder than the way most people fought it, and that alone justifies the high death count. Most people would die that much, or even more times, if they fought it in the same way.
To be fair, your deaths on DS1 are pretty low or average. I think I died to Kalameet much more than you
>226 times for malenia
Jesus fuck it makes me feel good I was still just in the double digits and I did it with a colossal greatsword pre-buff, naked, no blocking, and without arts of war.
I felt I had something to prove to myself, and god damn did it feel good by the end.
What build for ER? I literally killed Godfrey on my first try just using BB.
Who cares?
it's hard for me to say any fromsoft boss is hard, because typically i will only struggle for a boss if my build is specifically locked in to a specific soul level and i am extremely underleveled for the fight.
when i am going through the game without worrying about making a build for multiplayer, lategame bosses become easier than earlygame bosses becuase my build is so extremely damage stacked with no upper limit on soul level.
i think the hardest boss is dark souls 2 ancient dragon. hardest to stay awake, that is.
what also came to mind is early bonfire ascetic ng+ lost sinner, which i usually do very very early to get flame weapon.
the hardest boss to in every From Shit game is the boring ass game design. I'd need a lobotomy to enjoy any of this goyslop.
>dragon god
what
Elden Beast is way harder than Staggerlania.
>DeS
>not Old King Doran
what
"Hardest" as is cancerous (like some puzzle bosses) or "hardest" as is takes a lot of time to learn all of their patterns to defeat them?
Most of my first Soulslike playthroughs were within SL/BL 20-30 (otherwise there's a chance I might bruteforce bosses instead of learning their patterns), so your mileage may vary compared to my experience
>Demon Souls
I think it was Maneaters, mostly due to them constantly dropping from bridge and flying (so I wasted a lot of time fighting them). Was expected Flamelurker to be hard but hugging his back made him trivial - maybe he was nerfed by the time I started playing DeS on PS3, it wasn't my first Soulslike. Dunno who else can count as hard - Old Monk with online on?
>Dark Souls
Overall pretty easy in terms of bosses (people who started with it had issues with Capra / O&S / 4 Kings because they were still learning the ropes), especially the second half of the game. I can understand why people say O&S because it was the first proper case of two bosses fighting you at the same time. Never played DLC so dunno about Artorias / Manus / Kalameet.
>Dark Souls II
I think it was either Lost Sinner (fought her without activating the flames + it was right on release so she wasn't nerfed yet) or Looking Glass Knight (my stats were really bad and invaders didn't make it any easier due to soul memory ignoring my low SL so I was paired against strong people). Darklurker was easier than clearing all three Dark Chasms. Never played any of DLCs or Scholar version.
>Dark Souls III
Only Gundyr #2 and Nameless King were difficult in vanilla version, and both are optional fights (good luck getting to dragon area without looking it up - at least smacking walls and finding Gundyr #2's location is believable). Friede is more of obnoxious fight where first two phases are waste of time and piss easy while third phase is fun and challenging but dying means you have to waste time on first two phases again. Ringed City DLC had pretty hard bosses in general, but Midir was probably the toughest one (even if Gael is most fun and I liked the aspect of twin demons having different second phase based on which one you killed first).
>Bloodborne
Main game is probably Logarius - I never knew you could break the blade (?) he throws into ground to stop the vortex (I think I did try to break it during first few tries but something went wrong and I assumed it was unbreakable). I had a lot of troubles with Maria and Laurence, but Orphan of Kos almost OHKO me with any attack he threw at me - probably the hardest boss I fought in Soulslike.
>Sekiro
Guardian Ape is annoying if you don't know about the worm trick. True Father is overall hard and takes time to learn but not bullshit. SS Isshin was super easy, he gives you way too many openings. Demon of Hatred is Dark Souls boss that was thrown into Sekiro for no reason, so you just hug its legs and fight it like Dark Souls boss.
>Elden Ring
Haven't played it yet.
This autist has made 100+ of these worthless threads. "Whose your favorite Souls boss" "What's the hardest Souls boss" "What are your top 5 Souls bosses", etc, usually at around the same time of night every time. This fucking board feels like it's mainly AI generated at this point, there is just no enforced quality-control or active moderation at all.
Melinia is not hard, it's just her bullshit move that ruins the entire fight. It has nothing to do with "git gud" or anything of the sort, it's just a bad move to include in the game because of how your character plays. You either tank it by using big gay shields or you roll spam hoping to get past it; or even unorthodox shit like unlocking, walking by, then rolling in an odd pattern. It's just badly designed because it forces you to do things you wouldn't normally do or be expected to do to get past it.
Overall, shes a really fun fight normally. Once she pulls out her anime bullshit move, it's over. A really great fight that I would honestly probably rate highly like a 9/10 is more like a 3/10 because of that one move.
or just throw a pot
I recently went back and beat DaS, DaS2, and most of DS3 at SL1, so that will probably inform a lot of my rankings
>DeS
1. Flamelurker
2. Maneaters
3. False King
Demons Souls honestly isn't really a very difficult game if you're familiar with the underlying souls gameplay fundamentals, and have developed a decent muscle memory for it. It's more about the challenge found in the levels themselves than the bosses.
>DaS
1. Kalameet
2. Artorias
3. Ornstein and Smough
4. Four Kings
I was debating whether to include Manus or The Four Kings, but the latter is definitely more annoying on SL1 runs because of the DPS race neccesary. Plus, Manus telegraphs his attacks very effectively, and gives you a lot of free openings with his fist attacks.
>DaS2
1. Lud and Zallen
2. Sir Alonne
3. Burnt Ivory King
4. Fume Knight
Lud and Zallen suck dick, and I remember that I ended up using all sorts of bullshit boosting items to finally kill them at SL1. A horrible boss, with a run-up that makes even the Blue Smelter's own craggy hellhole look like paradise.
I would also like to mention that DS2 was by far the most rewarding/interesting game to SL1 run through, and the only one I'd consider doing again any time soon. It's a completely different experiences that prioritises deliberate planning, stat-boosting gear, and clever little item tricks to deal with enemies/bosses/situations.
>Bloodborne
1. Orphan of Kos
2. Ludwig
3. Laurence
4. Ebrietas
Orphan's true difficulty comes from overcoming his frantic, spastic flailing moves, and twitchy combos and learning the best opportunities to riposte/backstab him, especially on his second phase where the camera lock-on often breaks.
The Defiled Watchdog was also annoying as hell, but more of an endurance test than true difficulty.
>Sekiro
1. Father Owl
2. Sword Saint Isshin
3. Isshin Ashina
4. Demon of Hatred
Not much to say here. Sekiro's game design is so tight and clean that it feels like the developers were able to precisely tune every boss to perfection.
>Dark Souls 3
1. Sister Friede
2. Darkeater Midir
3. Nameless King
4. Slave Knight Gael
The Demon Princes gave me the most trouble at SL1, but I've beaten DS3 enough times to recognise that they're otherwise not the most trying bosses.
I feel like once you've played Midir enough, his entire fight becomes more of a waiting game, whereas Friede has several attacks/combos that can catch even experienced players off-guard, especially with how different her three phases are.
>Elden Ring
1. Malenia
2. Mohg
3. Radagon/Elden Beast
4. Maliketh
ER is my favourite Souls/From game in general, but Malenia is one of my least favourite of the late-game mega-bosses. It's a shame, because I don't think it would take much to make her great, but From seem resolute in keeping her health regen mechanics and waterfowl tracking as overtuned as they currently are.
Mohg is way more fun, as is Radagon/Elden Beast (never understood why the beast phase get's so much hate, it's fucking beautiful)
Inner father is easily the hardest sekiro boss. Inner isshin comes in second for me. Some people say that he's easier than sword saint Isshin but he feels way more aggressive
Forgot to mention this, but Malenia is also easy as fuck and not even top 3 in elden ring (especially at higher ng cycles). She took me less tries than the first time I killed genichiro, and I was level 86 using only a zweihander.
>dragon god
wut? did you not even get to the Maneaters?
>DoH
really easy with the fire umbrella, but I get that the way you fight him is unique to the rest of the game so I see the difficulty
I'm trying DoH right now and it's so uncomfortable to use the umbrella when the game conditioned me to deflect everything with my sword. Is it really possible to evade his fire from below attack in phase 2?
it’s been a long time since I actually did the fight but I remember with the umbrella it’s obvious which attacks to block and it gives you lots of openings to chip away at his health, since posture doesn’t really matter anyway. the second phase is mostly the same but you need to stay close to avoid the really dangerous attacks and you can easily get away from the divebomb and have significant time to punish. it’s been awhile but I remember once I used the umbrella I did it in like less than ten tries
I had way more trouble with Godskin Duo than Malenia, Godfrey, or any of the other major bosses.
Placidusax was no stroll in the park either.
Friede is much harder than Midir
Dragon god is lame and sucks but I think soloing Maneaters are a lot harder
It's interesting how Malenia mogs anything else in ER in terms of difficulty to the point that I'd argue the second hardest boss in the game is not even a Story one but probably some bullshit overworld boss with bloated damage and status+AoE spam like the Consacrated Snowfield Death Rite Bird.
I found inner owl the biggest piece of shit in sekiro
2 cats in the snowy dlc of dark souls 2 is the only soulsborneringkiro boss I didn't beat
Everything else was piss easy compared to that turboaidscancer alanal rape
And you also had to run for like 10 minutes every time you die. What a dogshit game
>it's difficult therefore bad
do you guys not think when posting shit like this?
It is not difficult, just pure cancer to play
that's another classic cope, but you had to use "tedious" instead of pure cancer to fit in
Midir isn't that hard, just tedious cause he has a fuckton of health
630830527
You probably never even played the games moron
I completed them all, it's just funny that you judged the difficulty without even beating the game
I didn't realise how challenging/annoying Mohg can be until I started doing challenge runs
>heals back up to ~6-70% if you don't burst him down quick (w/ bleed or frostbite) during the ritual
>does whatever the fuck he wants and can give you 0 openings
>tosses bloodflame all over the place if you even try to keep distance, then does it again anyway because he'll always fly away and be away from you
>fills the arena with gravestones on the side because why not
He's one of the bosses that will still feel like an RNGfest even if you learn his moveset well (unlike Malenia who becomes trivial once you learn how to dodge waterfowl) and always forces you to fight it a specific way (extremely close to him), which I don't like.
Yeah the thing with Mohg is you can out level him much like Margit. If you try fighting him "fair" he is utterly insane. In fact many Elden Ring bosses are completely fucking nuts mechanically. I say this as someone who found Dark Souls bosses relatively easy. Some people seem to have forgotten how easy Dark Souls 1 bosses actually were, you can just sit and drink half the time. Even Margit is harder than 90% of souls bosses.
don't tell fromfags about monster hunter they will lose their fucking minds
For me it's:
DS1: none of the bosses are very hard but Manus is probably the most challenging
DS3: for me it's either Twin Princes, Midir or Gael
Bloodborne: Orphan of Kos. By the time I got to any of the Chalice Dungeon bosses I was overleveled.
Didn't play any of the others.
I replayed all the games recently and this fucker is the hardest boss outside elden ring
>casually 1 shots you after rampaging in a super small room with camera all over the place
Just walk backwards and use blacksky eye
Follow up with all the ones I had most trouble with in each game
>armored spider
>gwyn
>2 cat
>Laurence
>midir
>Owl (Father)
>Malenia
He's like Midir, mechanically easy with a basic moveset and the only difficulty coming from a ridiculous healthpool. These types of bosses are just garbage.
630830658
Learn to read
>2 cats in the snowy dlc of dark souls 2 is the only soulsborneringkiro boss I didn't beat
also why aren't you replying to me? lil zoomer got angry?
I don't count the optional chalice dungeon mega-aids on a list like this. I'll only list bosses that still fuck me to this day on replays
>Maneater
>Ornstein & Smough
>I've not touched DS2 since release, shitty game
>Bloodstarved Beast
>Aldrich
>1st owl fight
> Godskin duo
Hardest non boss enemies? Hardest non boss enemies
>DeS
Red eye bonemorons
>DaS
I was a parrylet, so the black knights always gave me trouble
>DaS2
Pre patch Mace Drakekeeper
>BB
Cainhurst cunt in Amelia’s room, or if that’s a “boss” I’d say the streetsharks in not-innsmouth
>DaS3
Game was really easy so nothing really comes to mind, though it’s probably something from the dlc
>Sekiro
Akimbo monkey
>ER
Sword lions I guess, not sure haven’t played Elden ring again since launch month
Probably missing quite a lot, but this is what immediately sticks out to me:
>DaS
Prowling Demons, Skeleton Dogmen, Spincats,
>DaS2
Iron Warriors, Forlorn, Frozen Reindeer, Dark Havel Spirits, Hitbox Giants
>BB
Nightmare Executioner, Shark Giant, Winter Lanterns,
>DaS3
Pus of Man, Boreal Outriders, Corvian Knights, Ringed Knights
>Sekiro
2kat monkeys, Spear Adept, Interior Ministry red hats, The fat manbaby things
>ER
Giant Crayfish, Lion Guardians, Valiant Gargoyles, Horned Omen, Cleanrot Knights
>DeS
Old King Doran
>DaS
Cant think of any
>BB
Bloody crow of cainhurst
>Sekiro
Senpou twinblade monks
>ER
I havent finished it yet but it has by far the highest concentration of bullshit spaztic enemies that arent really difficult instead they are annoying to fight
The hands in carian manor, the runebear, the giant crab, the revenant...etc
>Ornstein and Smough
Really? Everything in the DLC was harder than the base game for me. Except for Mausoleoum Guy
>Dark Lurker
Again most DLC fights were harder like fume, Blue smelter, Ivory King, etc.
>Defiled Amygdala
Oh my god finally someone who also thinks this guy was unbearable. The worst fight in all fromsoft games for me. Never raged so hard holy shit
>Dark Eater Midir
I think I agree. Even though I beat him quickly he or Nameless King was the hardest
>Isshin
Also agree. Nice that Final Boss was the hardest for once
>Malenia
Hard to have a different opinion unless you are a contrarian bitch. She's not even comparable in terms of difficulty to other bosses. My second most attempts were Radahn I think wtih about 25. and more because i was underleveled and didnt want to summon.
Malenia took me about 80 with UGS
>people rating NG bosses
If you didn't beat them in NG+5-7 you didn't beat the boss.
NG is easier bitch
Is NG+7 harder than Reflection of Strength Inner Ishin or Inner Father Owl?
>defiled amygdala
Yeah this one was a bitch but easily manageable, laurence and the orphan on the other hand completely filtered me.
Laurence is hard but I hate the way he's hard, he's a bad boss imo.
DeS: Flamelurker; Allant is more mechanically challenging but your character is much stronger and you have access to better stuff.
DS: Kalameet or manus. Biggy Smalls isn't even the hardest boss in the base game, which is definitely 4kids.
DS2: 2cats. Nothing else is even close. The hardest of the rest is imo Dark Lurker, considering all factors such as run back.
DS3: Midir or Gael. Friede with a lower level character/weapon is the best fight though, and only a little easier.
Bloodborne: Orphan
Sekri: didn't play, lol
Elden souls: Malenia, and everything else in the list is much easier. Yes you can cheese her and use mimic etc etc, but straight up melee combat as miyazaki intended (any other way and you didn't beat the game btw), she is the hardest souls boss ever
There is no way from will be able to stop themselves from making something even harder for the DLC, and I'm not looking forward to it, Malenia was more than enough challenge for me
DeS: N/A, they're all really easy and slow, most are 'puzzle' bosses
DS1: Manus
DS2: Sinh
DS3: Midir
Sekiro: [Inner] Owl Father, Demon Of Hatred is jank
Elden Ring: Malenia
>Dragon God
>Not Old King Allant
Manus and Artorias are way harder than Fatass and garden gnome