even though yoshida did in some ways revive the franchise with XIV ARR, I wish he didnt
It was not worth the newbie furry/femboy degenerate zoomers it brought. Many of them are literal Twitchgays who never even touched the FF franchise and hate the old games
>Many of them are literal Twitchgays who never even touched the FF franchise and hate the old games
Or those folks from their barbie-doll simulator Second Life, but a good portion of the XIV fanbase have admitted XIV is their first Final Fantasy and MMO.
Why is it okay for RPGs to invade action games but not the opposite, why is the title not "FF16 is more of a God of War than Dad of War"? God of War was an action game, best selling one in fact during it's heyday in fact. Even DMC had more RPG elements, at least 3 did.
>nuGoW is barely an RPG
It's more RPG than Souls games. >Builds that changes how you play the game, poison comes to my mind since you build it up with your fists >Long cinematics >Long side quests >Minigames >Elemental weakness/status effects >Character/story focus, not gameplay focus
Why are you attempting to deflect so hard to nuGoW, troon? Both are shit in their own ways. What Yoshi-Piss did to FF is inexcusable.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I travelled around the world and found that people thought Final Fantasy was a Final Fantasy type game. I decided that didn't need to be true. Final Fantasy can be any type of game. Or no type of game. Or all types of games. Listen. Whatever. Just please. Please buy the game. I have no idea what I'm doing. Just throwing shit at the wall here. Do you want an FPS? I'll make it a truck driving sim if you want. Please my job is on the line here just buy it. I'll suck your dick.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Literally same response when people asked him why it was PS5 exclusive
>actually, it makes the game better, so please buy a PS5! Please, do it now! I'll let you frick my mother
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Why are you attempting to deflect so hard to nuGoW
Because all the journos and shills and all the people who praised that hot garbage reboot to heavens didn't cared about why the hell it had RPG elements, many of the journalists even agreed it was "improved" over the original trilogy despite lacking jumping attacks or aerial combat or juggling. When someone makes an X genre game be it FPS or action or racing or whatever but adds RPG elements on top of it everyone praises it. When someone takes those elements away people are eager to shit on it as "chasing the call of duty/gta/fortnite" audience and tries to write it off without understanding why it's an action game. It's an action game simply because it was designed to be an action game, eikon fights or boss battles or even the grittiness of the story and world would've had 1/10 of the impact without real time combat. Drakengard is also another great example why real time combat in dark fantasy works, which XVI also tooks alot from in fact:
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8 months ago
Anonymous
>Bro, why are you mad that the next mainline FF is a racing game? It was designed to be a racing game!
This is why cultists always come off as huge wienersuckers. Is Final Fantasy a series or a brand? If SE thinks they can use its mainline iterations to do whatever the frick they want (as a brand), then it has no appeal to me. Then FF is equal to McDonald's or Coca Cola. It's just a name. It doesn't mean anything.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>>Bro, why are you mad that the next mainline FF is a racing game? It was designed to be a racing game!
If it was designed to be racing game then it should be a racing game. Racing competition would be a great FF setting. >Is Final Fantasy a series or a brand
Why the frick people who tries to shit on 16 pretends series jumped from original FF7 to 16 instantly? FF has shit ton of spinoffs, most of them aren't even the same genre as mainline games.
8 months ago
Anonymous
That's not a mainline FF title, you disingenous little shit.
>FF16 is not a spin-off (but should've been)
Blame Square for not having enough developers to handle more than 2 projects, it feels like a retooled Drakengard game to me. Would explain why it's better than most FF games though kek.
8 months ago
Anonymous
> Le edgy got medieval shit is drakengard i swear it even has pancer dragoon segments and the mc kills his little stepbro and says frick
8 months ago
Anonymous
Poor Yoshigays have the biggest case of wannabe Yoko Taro in the world.
8 months ago
Anonymous
It has even similar animations. Clive always uses his left hand when he casts magic similar to Caim.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Okay where is the dragon waifu and a better godlike being that roleplay as kid villian? I think other similarity with srakengard its the crappy ost you listen more the crappy bossfight music called "to sail seas"( Leviathan choped for dlc) than other thing
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Okay where is the dragon waifu
Picrel, also I'm saying it was inspired by Drakengard anon, it's not a 1:1 remake.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Problem is when in turns to be a mainline ff, yes they dont have the same hype as mainline but thats marketing job like it was neotwewy
8 months ago
Anonymous
Worked for Mario and it's multiple genres, but as we know tendies also happen to be the biggest wienersuckers out there.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Mario doenst have mainline numbers since Nintendo 64 or nes
8 months ago
Anonymous
And according to Ganker, final fantasy hasn't been final fantasy since anything after FF1 or any other numbered FF title. In fact, any FF hasn't been FF according to random anonymous mooks on the internet. Might as well ignore the mainline tag.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yoshi-P is so self-conscious about FF's japanese roots. It's kind of pathetic. He asked all those people about FF, but forgot to ask, "But did you enjoy it?" and I assure you, most people who say that they love all the aspects of FF that he supposedly listed as its weaknesses. That's why no one gave a frick about FF16. He basically removed FFs identity from it and made an unrelated game.
I hope going forward they start using and expanding FF7RE's ATB system.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Remember that interview of him being butthurt as frick over FF being branded a "JRPG"?
That really showed is true colors.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nomura showed his true colors as well. Guess that mean 7R is gonna bomb as well.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>7R is gonna flop
I mean Im excited for FF7 rebirth but come on anon…it might do even worse than XVI cause FF sequels do poorly
its crazy how many zoomers infected this community like HKmoron when they dont even know FF sequels always sell much worse
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. And then Kamiya shit on him AND made the term JAction so that I don't have to call it "Character Action" anymore AND we can separate it from shitty western action games. Based as frick.
Nomura showed his true colors as well. Guess that mean 7R is gonna bomb as well.
Why does everyone always bring Nomura into the conversation when we're shitting on Yoshi-P when he's the one that's spearheading the only good games Square has left?
8 months ago
Anonymous
That was based of Kamiya. A man who actually takes pride in his work.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, so based he got booted from PG.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The way P* is going, it's better he gets out now. Nobody should be shackled to live service shovelware.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Prenumeranter >Bli medlem >Prenumerera
I fricking knew you homosexuals who do this weren't English. You Swedish, ESL c**t.
8 months ago
Anonymous
But just a moment ago, I was an Australian abbo? Can you make up your mind please?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I found you, you little fricker.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I travelled around the world and found that people thought Final Fantasy was a Final Fantasy type game. I decided that didn't need to be true. Final Fantasy can be any type of game. Or no type of game. Or all types of games. Listen. Whatever. Just please. Please buy the game. I have no idea what I'm doing. Just throwing shit at the wall here. Do you want an FPS? I'll make it a truck driving sim if you want. Please my job is on the line here just buy it. I'll suck your dick.
This is so dumb honestly. I really hope the mediocre sales of 16 gave them a fricking wake up call. Just go back to making Final Fantasy. No one wants this half baked shit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
JRPG is associated with zero disdain. It's cool and normal thing for westerners. What is yoshi really trying to do?
Only in having a giant boss fight , iwas dissapointed they didnt subvert the expectation of odin being the final boss and the giant on fire that cause Ragnarok being it
Good, JRPG is a trash genre that needs to fricking die out, especially turn based bullshit. Honestly can't imagine anyone under 40 preferring that over FF16 which has a good and enjoyable combat system. You losers are probably just bad at videogames that require skills.
You guys act like he does a lot, dude is just the face. he approves shit but he doesn't write or make anything himself. he is the scapegoat for when the product fails. he literally plays switch during live letters for xiv. dude does zip of actual work
A Realm Reborn was rebooted without his permission. The major work was already done by the old team. The more Yoshi's own gang of hacks took over, the worse FF14 became. ARR was the peak.
Truth hurts when you've spent years being a delusional Yoshi-P cultist thinking he's King Midas. The original team already revamped FF14 and Yoshi-P just continued on their hard work by ruining it and turning it into Asian WoW.
keep writing false shit, maybe it will come true in your moron mind
Major work began on revamping FF14 almost immediately after its failed launch. SE took major personnel from other teams to make that reboot possible. Yoshi-P cultists think it was just one dude with zero credentials. While in truth, it was a huge company-wide effort that involved basically everyone who was able to.
8 months ago
Anonymous
kek still spreading bullshit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Still be a deluded cultist thinking your no-credentials producer is somehow responsible for the biggest project in SE history, that involved hundreds of personnel, including the old guard.
8 months ago
Anonymous
here is your hardd truth
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Thanks YoshiP for saving FF.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>literally backstabbing take over
What a snake. I feel sorry for the old team. They spent a ton of energy and time making the foundations for a good game but then got hijacked by the "WoW is the best game ever" guy.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Ironic they re becoming complacent like wow team i cant wait yoshi saying the " you guys think what content you want but you really dont know"
8 months ago
Anonymous
Did we watch the same documentary? Where was the backstabbing you mentally ill troon?
8 months ago
Anonymous
HAHAHAHAHA ZERO CREDENTIALS?? The man helped lead development on Dragon Quest 9 and 10, and did such a good job managing and steering 10's development that they gave him the job of fixing the original 1.0 of ff14 while making a realm reborn. Read any of the dev interviews olaround the time. Watch the 3 or 4 part noclip doc. You are DELULU. Hahahahahahaha.
Each new expansion sold more than the last, with Stormblood being the first one where even the moronic SE leadership had to admit that FF14 was their most important flagship title.
>sales
SE never reported in sales. Only in very misleading "player accounts" statements which mean nothing since the game has had more free trials than a hooker in Sao Paolo.
It doesn't need to be a huge success to guarantee minimum effort DLCs. It has a dedicated niche of troons that pay 15 USD monthly + MTX. They can coast off that niche for decades.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>minimum effort DLCs >each expansion has almost double the amount of voice acting than the one before it
8 months ago
Anonymous
>voice acting
Doesn't mean much when these expansion packs are glorified VNs. And with the translator confusing volume of words with quality of words.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>moving the goalpost for the third time
And I'm done, see you in another ten years then there's still expansions coming out for this "failure" of a game.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>quantifies size of an expansion pack with "voice acting
lmao you really tried there didn't you. FF14 is now just a glorified VN and a troony larping room. Thank your God Yoshi-P.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I like visual novels though. I actually read books, unlike you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Except the argument was about how the expansions are a low effort investment on SE's part. Voice acting costs money. Increasing the amount of voice acting means that SE is willing to spent more and more money on a "failed" game, for over 10 years straight by now.
Keep moving that goalpost, seethe and dilate, and see you in another 10 years, little buddy.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Remember the fordola gonna has lot of lines and protagonism in shitwalker said by the dub actress in twitter? KEK
8 months ago
Anonymous
There comes a point where a reaction image just comes off desperate. You've passed that point.
Voice acting costs jack shit. The cheapest JRPGs out there can afford voice acting.
See you guys next expansion, when it's gonna break all sales records for the fifth time in a row for this "failed" game. Imagine seething for TEN YEARS on Ganker about how the game is supposedly a failure and with each passing year is just becomes more and more popular.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Only seething gays use laughing reaction images. We can hear you cry troon.
8 months ago
Anonymous
To another 20 years of a massively successful career for Yoshi-P, hear hear!
8 months ago
Anonymous
There comes a point where a reaction image just comes off desperate. You've passed that point.
Voice acting costs jack shit. The cheapest JRPGs out there can afford voice acting.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The only expensive are hiring celebs like keanu chungus, jack bauer and idris elva
8 months ago
Anonymous
>is now
always was
8 months ago
Anonymous
>see you in another ten years then there's still expansions coming out for this "failure" of a game.
GW2 is still getting expansions. This is not the gotcha you think it is.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The most recent GW2 "expansion" had less content than a Living Story season. They're not even remotely on the same level.
8 months ago
Anonymous
GW2 has been in freefall for almost 2 years now, their latest expansion died off so quickly that some of the hardest GW2 dickriders I know all quit thanks to losing all hope for the games future after sucking it off on the daily for 6-10 years.
FFXIV might be in a bad spot right now but GW2 shat the bed harder than any other MMO on the market that doesn't have "Warcraft" in its name
8 months ago
Anonymous
I get so triggered by Koji Foxisms now
8 months ago
Anonymous
Isnt he the scapegoat of japanese guys get salty since ShadowBlack folk trailer being mainly engrish? Im impressed they dont shit at him yet
FF15 still sold 10 million units and was overall a very profitable game for SE.
FF16 never had any hype to begin with as the trailers were just weird and un-FF as frick. I don't think it's a coincidence the latest FF7R trailer went overboard with Final Fantasy elements.
In less platforms and years than any other FF took to hit 10m
what's your point?
FF7 took over 10 years and 5 platforms to hit 10m
FF10 took 15 years and like 8 platforms to hit 10m
FF15 took only 5.5 years to hit 10m with only 3 platforms, literally the fastest FF to ever do so and literally on less platforms than any others.
10m in 5.5 years (ffxv) is better than 9.8m in 8 years (ff7)
XV has not been out for 27 years
FF7 has, it took 27 years for FF7 to hit 14m on 11 platforms
It took over 10 years for FF7 to hit 10m on 5 platforms
It took only 5.5 years for XV to hit 10m+ on only 3 platforms and its still only on 3 platforms in 7 years and is likely around 11m now
FF7 was at bargain bins since 1999
Majority of its sales are at like $6 to $12 over 20 years
Most of XV was full price to near full price, barely even 500k was below half price, and its lowest official price is $17.50/$20 only when on sale, and its default price is $35/$40
FF7s default price since 2000 has been under $12-$15
8 months ago
Anonymous
Now add inflation, if your brown mind can understand it
$60 in 1997 is worth $114.78 today
$60 in 2016 is worth $76.75 today >FF7 was at bargain bins since 1999
Majority of its sales are at like $6 to $12 over 20 years
Most of XV was full price to near full price, barely even 500k was below half price, and its lowest official price is $17.50/$20 only when on sale, and its default price is $35/$40
FF7s default price since 2000 has been under $12-$15
You have 0 proof for any of this.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like you can't count and did no research
XV did 6m in a month at full price and was at 6.6m in 11 months
FF7 was only 5.17m in 11 months
ff7 also wasn't $60 you moron it was $50 at launch and there were ways to get it even cheaper at launch
FF7 first 11 months was 5.17m at $50 (with inflation $95.65) is $494m
FFXV first 11 months was 6.6m at $60 (with inflation $76.75 (does not even include collectors or deluxe edition prices into this which are a big factor too as they cost significantly higher too) is $506m
People said the same thing when Sakaguchi left but here we are. Also 16 was immeasurably better than the 13 trilogy. If we can live through that or Advent Children, I think we'll be fine.
Ok so why is it every day people posting against those games though? Why specifically ff14 and ff16?
Just the ravings of a mad abbo clown now that XV isn't the current mainline FF title anymore. Yoshida doesn't actually matter, it could have been anyone at the helm really and the moronic abbo tendie would have behaved the same.
I see, I'll have to look more into it I've not really played the final fantasy games, i just see the threads always on here.
FF16 was so shit.
Was it? What was bad about it, I heard it's coming to PC?
It’s actual flaws is pretty weak exploration, boring side quest content (the writing is ranges from fine to good), and off story pacing at two points. The real reason people have been on the game’s ass is because it’s basically a full on character action game now, and FF fans can’t comprehend action gameplay that doesn’t tell them everything immediately or doesn’t have some “push the square block in the square hole” elemental affinities (despite this being a plague on good action game design).
Just the ravings of a mad abbo clown now that XV isn't the current mainline FF title anymore. Yoshida doesn't actually matter, it could have been anyone at the helm really and the moronic abbo tendie would have behaved the same.
>FFXVI is a big success for a Sony exclusive game >FFXIV is as healthy as ever >Bazztek Black person keeps seething and crying and pissing himself over these truths
>XIV community literally talking about its massive player dropoff >UHHHH DOESNT EXIST COPE >XVI cant even sell 4 million >UHHHHH ITS A HUGE SUCCESS COPE
Kek this is getting sad HKmoron. You are a zoomer so its pretty obvious that you have been brought up to defend corporations like your life depends on it
its funny how when people mention HKmoron, you get so fricking defensive every single time
imagine posting the “stumbled acrossed it” image on your fricking twitter and never expected barry or any other FF schizo to find it and expose you
but i guess you didnt expect any FF schizo to “stumble across it”
8 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone that posts an image about a well known lolcow is the same person
8 months ago
Anonymous
>ITS NOT ME I SWEAR STOP TALKING ABOUT IT
Kek imagine exposing your twitter like a moronic zoomer. I would rather kill myself than doxx myself on this shithole
>FFXIV is as healthy as ever >historic lowest number of new players >existing players unsubbing en masse
Yoshida seems to really be doing a good job, right?
A game carried by its cash shop does not a good game make
Barry's still a freak though, but XIV really is a shell of something that had a ton of potential
>Bro, why are you mad that the next mainline FF is a racing game? It was designed to be a racing game!
This is why cultists always come off as huge wienersuckers. Is Final Fantasy a series or a brand? If SE thinks they can use its mainline iterations to do whatever the frick they want (as a brand), then it has no appeal to me. Then FF is equal to McDonald's or Coca Cola. It's just a name. It doesn't mean anything.
This image is as bad as the Dragonflight ad campaign; why would they ever acknowledge these points?
>ARR was the peak
Is this some kinda joke? ARR is a fricking snoozefest. It's such an infamous slog that people commonly ask if they can just skip it.
ARR during it's run and playing it now are completely different games entirely
The former was quite charming with a closer knit community, better world building, and less fujobaiting/scion wanking
>XVI >little artwork at launch and none made since then >no cosplays >no porn >no discussion outside this shithole >japan hated it >most evelebs hated it
>made square lose 2 billion dollars >lowest selling mainline FF on the famitsu threads >lost to pikmin and remnant 2 >near double digit views on twitch
>success
See you next summer when Dawntrail breaks all records once again and Yoshi-P leads development for another flagship title.
Do you know what 'content drought' means? The game is about to enter a ten month period of content drought, after a series of widely agreed to be 'middling' post-expansion patches. If you have done everything you wanted to in the game, you unsubscribed. The only people left are raiders and morons who think the game is Second Life. There is no long-term midcore content, or even casual content for players to desire to do; if you don't raidlog and don't have a reason to log on, people DO unsubscribe. One thing Yoshida is guilty of is acting both like people unsubscribing out of frustration with the game's direction or lack of things to do is the same as the 'natural ebb and flow' of players; but that's entirely separate from what you're trying to claim.
Also: new players is the worst statistic to use ever to argue that an MMO is dying because they need to play for over 200 hours to do anything fun and will likely hit a quit point long before end game. >t. ultimate pf moron
I don't know what you think I was arguing, but I thought it was obvious the game isn't healthly and while every other expansion had droughts, none of them were hitting this hard or this early
The design choices and lack of engaging non-formulaic content being the likely being the culprits
Bazztek is such a pathetic little worm lmao. "I stumbled across it" my ass.
That's pretty fricking gay bazzkek
samegayging all the time is what you do thought, barry
ff16 literally tanked SEs operating income and stock you moron
14 is dying
HKmoron you stupid xvi zoomer troon seaBlack person you got exposed for looking up troony porn on /gif/ a few days ago
Stop projecting and samegayging, you just keep digging your own grave
Remember when this game disrespected its players by forcing them to watch disgusting ugly homosexuals, who look like child rapists, making out on screen?
XV was indeed dog shit, but at least there's no pozzed shit in it
Did you miss the 2 homos kissing in XVI?
not even a company like blizzard added a forced cinematic of homos exchanging anal worms in their games
Yeah BG3 was disgusting, homosexuality mixed with bestiality. The degradation of Western civilisation.
>alienates waifugays >encourages homoshit
You know that things are bad when even BG3, a WRPG game, has like, hundreds of waifu threads daily, while XVI, a JRPG game, had none of that. The game is clearly aimed at homosexuals. No wonder it didn't sell. Go woke go broke, simple as
blunder of the century
this is the fastest se has ever put a ff on sale
hell not even forspoken got an official square enix discount this as quick as ff16 did
>XVI >little artwork at launch and none made since then >no cosplays >no porn >no discussion outside this shithole >japan hated it >most evelebs hated it
>made square lose 2 billion dollars >lowest selling mainline FF on the famitsu threads >lost to pikmin and remnant 2 >near double digit views on twitch
why doesn't FF just go back to being a sprite-based turn based RPG so they don't cost a bazillion dollarydoos and they can be sold on nintendo consoles which are more popular in japan
I'm honestly surprised at how long XIV has stuck around. I remember 10 years ago, how it'd almost never get discussed outside of that circlejerk /vg/ thread - now it's all like that in Ganker of all places, and not only does the gameplay being perfect for little kids apparently not matter, but they do everything they can to distract from that by shilling the netflix slop backwash of a story that gets put out every expansion.
I'm not stopping you from discussing the parts of XIV you like. It's just that gameplay is never one of them, unless it's to moan about others not following simple instructions or failing their rotations.
10m in 5.5 years is more than 9.8m in 8 years
And even including inflation FF7 has sold around 7m at $12 to $6 over 20 years
FF7, ff8 and others momey went to funding spirits within you tard which lost a frickton
XV sold more at full price than ff7 did too.
I'll make it simple for you
XV sold more at full price and higher price points than FF7 ever did and FF7 has been at literally $15 or below since 2000, it didnt hit 9.8m until 2005 where it had been in bargain bins only for over 5 years already
XV sold more, made more money and is more successful
XV has already sold more than ff7 in every fricking year compared to XVs current elapsed years, it is already at the 11 million range
XV could sell 0 for the next 3 years and it still will be selling better than FF7 did in the same timespan
The 9.8 million in 8 years is pre-psn
Therefore it was sold at either $60 for the original release or $30 for the playstation Platinum release.
It wasn't $12 until after the ps3's release when the psn rom was on the ps store. It sold 4 million There and in other online stores, which had it at more than $12, sometimes as high as $30.
moron it was at $19 since 2000 and that number includes the pccdrom version which was also cheaper too
Its been at $15 or below since it came to ps3/psp
its been $12 to $6 its entire steam lifespan
8 months ago
Anonymous
>He's still stumbling
14 million is more than 10 million
8 months ago
Anonymous
10m in 5.5 years is more than 9.8m in 8 years yes.
8 months ago
Anonymous
So 14 is more than 10 huh?
BTW, why did you make your psn profile private?
Is it because you didn't finish the XV dlcs or the fact you bought ff7r and kh3?
8 months ago
Anonymous
14m in 27 years on 11 platforms is not as impressive as 10m in 5.5 years on 3 platforms yes
Nathan are you coping than XV is still to this day outpacing every FF ever?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>he bought games he says he hated >he gave nomura money >He's still malding og 7 sold more >he stumbled on to tyranny porn
Am I Nathan or hkmoron? Kek
8 months ago
Anonymous
HKmoron you already admit that you looked up troony porn on /gif/
You're malting xv is still selfish better than any ff when comparing release timespans
You're malding yoshitpisses lost
Youre malding nomura AAAdirected FF sold less than Tabata's AAA directed FF
Youre malding people who bought the FFs you shilled have countless valid criticism over them
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah bit why did you buy Nomuras games?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>noooo you cannot criticize games you brought reeeeeee
8 months ago
Anonymous
But if nomura sucks why did you buy them?
I don't like any game after ff12 so I agree they're bad.
Also you just confirmed that you are indeed barry
8 months ago
Anonymous
>nooooo you cannot buy games to make informed criticism >reeeee ur my boogeymen because i said so
8 months ago
Anonymous
>confirms he bought kh3 and ff7r as shown by bazzteks psn profile >but I am not bazztek
ok
8 months ago
Anonymous
>still sperging off about some literal who and shit nobody was talking about >reeee no you cannot buy games to criticize them
8 months ago
Anonymous
>asks why he bought 2 games in reference to bazzteks psn >confirms he bought them
You can only be so anonymous when you out yourself Barry, don't try to walk it back now
8 months ago
Anonymous
You could always spend your money on other things and not engage in conversations about video games on the internet from a creator that makes you upset.
Barry has a very distinctive way of posting, having a specific non-Ganker bogeyman and repeated mantras like yoshipiss and cultist, which are signs of autism.
It's also 8:30pm in Melbourne so prime Barry hours
Barry has a very distinctive way of posting, having a specific non-Ganker bogeyman and repeated mantras like yoshipiss and cultist, which are signs of autism.
It's also 8:30pm in Melbourne so prime Barry hours
xv sold more than ff7 in the same timespan and even counting inflation xv made more, 14 has barely anyone playing it since 90% of its players are free trial accounts not actual paying subs
ARR only did 1.45m at launch
ARR only had at least 6m paid subs after 5 yeats aka 6m people who payed for a sub at least once
after that they started fudging the numbers by counting free trial players into the number because it was doing so poor
in reality shb and ew barely had 1.5m people even play it
also xv mobile makes more than every se mmo combined
>bro this random site is totally legit bro
next youll cite mmo population which uses fricking reddit and twitter engagement to create an "estimate" of the mmo active subs
>FFXIV is as healthy as ever >historic lowest number of new players >existing players unsubbing en masse
Yoshida seems to really be doing a good job, right?
A game carried by its cash shop does not a good game make
Barry's still a freak though, but XIV really is a shell of something that had a ton of potential
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This image is as bad as the Dragonflight ad campaign; why would they ever acknowledge these points?
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ARR during it's run and playing it now are completely different games entirely
The former was quite charming with a closer knit community, better world building, and less fujobaiting/scion wanking
Killed FF and killed all forums relating to it tbh. MMO-gay jannies and mods ban anyone with criticism at the drop of a hat while spamming threads with their discord pals.
I have an honest question. No shitpost. No deflection or boogeyman namecalling
Why do people do everything that it takes to defend yoshida so much? Been gaming since the 90s and never seen a game dev so defended out of any others. At least kojima or todd or miyazaki has people that like unironically shitposting about them. Even their fans do it
you shitpost about yoshida and you have an army going after you. Why do this to a business man like him? He doesnt actually care about you
He created a cult out of being an underdog, and fostered a communication of literal trannies who projected their social standing to FF14 being a failure, so when they saw him trying to fix it and only being less shit than 1.0 they deified him
yoshitpiss has made 0 fricking games, he just reskinned ff14 into a wow clone and the mmogay ate it up
he's also a literal PR man who tells people what they want to hear and it creates the impression that "wow he totally gets it, he's just like us!!"
He knows how to manipulate people and his targets are weak willed nothing people that would play an mmo to begin with, so that is how he created his cult
It's not about defending yoshida, it's about keeping the schizo occupied, something to do, validate his existence. Inactivity may lead to suicide so you see, we're saving lives over here.
Jesas
So he's gonna spend his time on here, gamefaqs, twitter and God knows where else doing this until xiv shuts down which will be like another 10 years at this point
Of course. barry is not an individual anymore. its a movement. an idea.
As long as trannies like you keep sucking off and defending yoshida at every turn, these people will exist to shit on you and the guy you defend for free on a backwater vietnamese forum
>10 years
there isnt a man like assmongold to prop the game again. Its gonna easily be a steady decline especially after the disaster that was EWs patches
Yet you've been here all this time shilling yoshitpiss and thinking literally only one person doesn't like ff14 or 16
I saved this image from 2ch
Japan hates yoshitpiss
8 months ago
Anonymous
it just shows the difference between western gaming communities and japans
Yoshida betrayed FF fans. As a result they shit on him and make fun of him
but even on Ganker, western zoomer fans who never grew up with older FF games do everything they can to defend him and praise everything he does because zoomers see brands as a religion in the west
based japs
8 months ago
Anonymous
anon, the average yoshidagay on Ganker is a FF14 troony, that is also most likely a former blizzard shit eating drone, which explains their behavior
8 months ago
Anonymous
true. Tbh FFXIV did actually get decent criticism way back when XIV was old and yoshida didnt have an ego
then blizztards flooded XIV and praised yoshida at every step they can giving him a godlike ego
8 months ago
Anonymous
new*
8 months ago
Anonymous
well luckily they are in the minority, because sane people don't worship brands or corporate figures
every loss yoshida takes is a loss for these people, which should've been shunned from society a long time ago
8 months ago
Anonymous
You mean the image you made yourself? >2ch
Oh, so you've fled there now after being found out spamming your horseshit about Luminous on 5ch? kek
8 months ago
Anonymous
OH NO NO NO NO
8 months ago
Anonymous
nta but 2ch makes images shitting on FF16 all the time, here
>10 years
there isnt a man like assmongold to prop the game again. Its gonna easily be a steady decline especially after the disaster that was EWs patches
Of course. barry is not an individual anymore. its a movement. an idea.
As long as trannies like you keep sucking off and defending yoshida at every turn, these people will exist to shit on you and the guy you defend for free on a backwater vietnamese forum
because everyone remembers how smug and arrogant yoshidagays were before the game actually released, with shills saying it will sell over 10 million copies first week, defending it at every turn and mocking everyone that disagreed
now FF16 is a forgotten pile of garbage that will go down in history as just another below average slop
I honestly dont remember seeing that
I only saw some posts about how people thought it would make the PS5 worth buying
it still isnt just for 1 good game
Once the KH4 hype train gets moving he'll show his face again. Right now the series is in a lull.
Until then we can expect heavy showers over FF16 while the DLC & PC version is on the way, along with Rebirth.
Remember when Barry claimed that XV was the only ff game where the summons were important to the story?
Then when he got btfo he would disappear for 5 minutes then come back with wiki articles about other ff games he hasn't played
So what news pushed Bazzgay over the edge this time? He's been seething a lot lately about Yoshida and Final Fantasy in general.
Is the Abbo pissed that SE is making deals with Microsoft now?
Rebirth looking great and shitting all over XV make him sperg out?
IIRC, his viewpoint is that MH was Nintendo exclusive for a while so World was win because they took it from Nintendo. Yeah he also consolewar shitflings with MH and God knows Ganker made it impossible to actually talk about MH due to it
honestly i would get the mindless yoshida defense force if we were still in the late shadowbringers patch days
but after endwalkers disastrous patches and the shitheap that was XVI, i dont understand how anyone can defend yoshida at this point i just dont. He really learned how to manipulate his audience so he could get away with anything
FF16 is already memoryholed. the only threads that get any activity are these ones that shit on the game or the guy that made it
FF14 is losing so many players, that its back to Stormblood numbers.
I've only ever played Crystal Chronicles on the GameCube. I picked this up because some of the giant crystals in the trailers looked cool. Won't have the best classic FFs to compare it to so maybe it'll be allright.
It's amazing how everyone moved on from this game, regardless of their opinion about it and you Black folk are still here seething and/or defending it 24/7 in the worst ways possible.
At least it's somewhat amusing looking at the amazing mental gymnastics and wild leaps of logic displayed here, and I guess the jannies think the same.
schizo thread
he looks deader than final fantasy
For somking a lot in a closed room no wonder his composer friend got cancer
God Soken is trash
I also hate good music
smoking is for morons
no wonder his games are moronic
>he looks deader than final fantasy
When you have a fanbase as moronic as the XIV fanbase, you're bound to look dead.
even though yoshida did in some ways revive the franchise with XIV ARR, I wish he didnt
It was not worth the newbie furry/femboy degenerate zoomers it brought. Many of them are literal Twitchgays who never even touched the FF franchise and hate the old games
>Many of them are literal Twitchgays who never even touched the FF franchise and hate the old games
Or those folks from their barbie-doll simulator Second Life, but a good portion of the XIV fanbase have admitted XIV is their first Final Fantasy and MMO.
Quick troons! Make another FF14 shill thread now that FF16 is dead in the water.
Schizo thread. Now post the sales numbers of Flopspoken you little shit. Oh right, SE is hiding them, kek.
Why are Yoshi-troons like this?
Why is it okay for RPGs to invade action games but not the opposite, why is the title not "FF16 is more of a God of War than Dad of War"? God of War was an action game, best selling one in fact during it's heyday in fact. Even DMC had more RPG elements, at least 3 did.
Neither is ok. But what's most pathetic that nuGoW is barely an RPG and still more RPG than a mainline FF game.
>nuGoW is barely an RPG
It's more RPG than Souls games.
>Builds that changes how you play the game, poison comes to my mind since you build it up with your fists
>Long cinematics
>Long side quests
>Minigames
>Elemental weakness/status effects
>Character/story focus, not gameplay focus
ah yes, staples of the role-playing game genre
Why are you attempting to deflect so hard to nuGoW, troon? Both are shit in their own ways. What Yoshi-Piss did to FF is inexcusable.
>I travelled around the world and found that people thought Final Fantasy was a Final Fantasy type game. I decided that didn't need to be true. Final Fantasy can be any type of game. Or no type of game. Or all types of games. Listen. Whatever. Just please. Please buy the game. I have no idea what I'm doing. Just throwing shit at the wall here. Do you want an FPS? I'll make it a truck driving sim if you want. Please my job is on the line here just buy it. I'll suck your dick.
Literally same response when people asked him why it was PS5 exclusive
>actually, it makes the game better, so please buy a PS5! Please, do it now! I'll let you frick my mother
>Why are you attempting to deflect so hard to nuGoW
Because all the journos and shills and all the people who praised that hot garbage reboot to heavens didn't cared about why the hell it had RPG elements, many of the journalists even agreed it was "improved" over the original trilogy despite lacking jumping attacks or aerial combat or juggling. When someone makes an X genre game be it FPS or action or racing or whatever but adds RPG elements on top of it everyone praises it. When someone takes those elements away people are eager to shit on it as "chasing the call of duty/gta/fortnite" audience and tries to write it off without understanding why it's an action game. It's an action game simply because it was designed to be an action game, eikon fights or boss battles or even the grittiness of the story and world would've had 1/10 of the impact without real time combat. Drakengard is also another great example why real time combat in dark fantasy works, which XVI also tooks alot from in fact:
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>Bro, why are you mad that the next mainline FF is a racing game? It was designed to be a racing game!
This is why cultists always come off as huge wienersuckers. Is Final Fantasy a series or a brand? If SE thinks they can use its mainline iterations to do whatever the frick they want (as a brand), then it has no appeal to me. Then FF is equal to McDonald's or Coca Cola. It's just a name. It doesn't mean anything.
>>Bro, why are you mad that the next mainline FF is a racing game? It was designed to be a racing game!
If it was designed to be racing game then it should be a racing game. Racing competition would be a great FF setting.
>Is Final Fantasy a series or a brand
Why the frick people who tries to shit on 16 pretends series jumped from original FF7 to 16 instantly? FF has shit ton of spinoffs, most of them aren't even the same genre as mainline games.
That's not a mainline FF title, you disingenous little shit.
FF16 is not a spin-off (but should've been)
> Its a temporally PS5 onry game
>FF16 is not a spin-off (but should've been)
Blame Square for not having enough developers to handle more than 2 projects, it feels like a retooled Drakengard game to me. Would explain why it's better than most FF games though kek.
> Le edgy got medieval shit is drakengard i swear it even has pancer dragoon segments and the mc kills his little stepbro and says frick
Poor Yoshigays have the biggest case of wannabe Yoko Taro in the world.
It has even similar animations. Clive always uses his left hand when he casts magic similar to Caim.
Okay where is the dragon waifu and a better godlike being that roleplay as kid villian? I think other similarity with srakengard its the crappy ost you listen more the crappy bossfight music called "to sail seas"( Leviathan choped for dlc) than other thing
>Okay where is the dragon waifu
Picrel, also I'm saying it was inspired by Drakengard anon, it's not a 1:1 remake.
Problem is when in turns to be a mainline ff, yes they dont have the same hype as mainline but thats marketing job like it was neotwewy
Worked for Mario and it's multiple genres, but as we know tendies also happen to be the biggest wienersuckers out there.
Mario doenst have mainline numbers since Nintendo 64 or nes
And according to Ganker, final fantasy hasn't been final fantasy since anything after FF1 or any other numbered FF title. In fact, any FF hasn't been FF according to random anonymous mooks on the internet. Might as well ignore the mainline tag.
Yoshi-P is so self-conscious about FF's japanese roots. It's kind of pathetic. He asked all those people about FF, but forgot to ask, "But did you enjoy it?" and I assure you, most people who say that they love all the aspects of FF that he supposedly listed as its weaknesses. That's why no one gave a frick about FF16. He basically removed FFs identity from it and made an unrelated game.
I hope going forward they start using and expanding FF7RE's ATB system.
Remember that interview of him being butthurt as frick over FF being branded a "JRPG"?
That really showed is true colors.
Nomura showed his true colors as well. Guess that mean 7R is gonna bomb as well.
>7R is gonna flop
I mean Im excited for FF7 rebirth but come on anon…it might do even worse than XVI cause FF sequels do poorly
its crazy how many zoomers infected this community like HKmoron when they dont even know FF sequels always sell much worse
Yeah. And then Kamiya shit on him AND made the term JAction so that I don't have to call it "Character Action" anymore AND we can separate it from shitty western action games. Based as frick.
Why does everyone always bring Nomura into the conversation when we're shitting on Yoshi-P when he's the one that's spearheading the only good games Square has left?
That was based of Kamiya. A man who actually takes pride in his work.
Yeah, so based he got booted from PG.
The way P* is going, it's better he gets out now. Nobody should be shackled to live service shovelware.
>Prenumeranter
>Bli medlem
>Prenumerera
I fricking knew you homosexuals who do this weren't English. You Swedish, ESL c**t.
But just a moment ago, I was an Australian abbo? Can you make up your mind please?
I found you, you little fricker.
This is so dumb honestly. I really hope the mediocre sales of 16 gave them a fricking wake up call. Just go back to making Final Fantasy. No one wants this half baked shit.
JRPG is associated with zero disdain. It's cool and normal thing for westerners. What is yoshi really trying to do?
>It's more RPG than Souls games.
Wow, it's fricking nothing.
>cheerful wolf bark
lmao, absolute state of gow
>numbers numbers numbers numbers numbers
>more of an rpg
Lmao
Only in having a giant boss fight , iwas dissapointed they didnt subvert the expectation of odin being the final boss and the giant on fire that cause Ragnarok being it
visual aids
>IGN
Thats the only good shit this game producir did, mald jorunalist for no Black folk and call their shit and ban them of interviews
Good, JRPG is a trash genre that needs to fricking die out, especially turn based bullshit. Honestly can't imagine anyone under 40 preferring that over FF16 which has a good and enjoyable combat system. You losers are probably just bad at videogames that require skills.
>FF16 is more God of War than God of War 2018/Ragnarok dlc
>God of War 2018/Ragnarok dlc is more FF than FF16
>both are equally shit.
Fascinating.
Why were the soa hit pieces for Final Fantasy 16
Forspoken sold 3.5 million
crisis core reunion sold 3.6 million
ff16 only sold 3 million
Forspoken released on PC and PS5 simultanously.
Crisis Core Reunion released on PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X/S, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch and PC.
>game that is only available on PS5 doesn't sell as much as multi-platform titles
Shocking.
13 > 14 > 15 > 16
not even DLC can save his game
Good now he has to kill himself to end the time loop
You guys act like he does a lot, dude is just the face. he approves shit but he doesn't write or make anything himself. he is the scapegoat for when the product fails. he literally plays switch during live letters for xiv. dude does zip of actual work
Best to do when your mmo content is going to shit
Hey, but for only 12.99 you can buy iceheart's attire on the mogstore! Pick up a fantasia as well!
>troon randomly brings up Souls butthurt because FF16 sold 10% of ER
lmao, every time
>He killed Final Fantasy.
kek?
actually he save it. without 14 success, square wouldnt even had money for a ff7 remake, neither a ff15, or a ff16.
when will barry and some morons at /v will finally get that it was his ff14 that constantly brings money for the company.
A Realm Reborn was rebooted without his permission. The major work was already done by the old team. The more Yoshi's own gang of hacks took over, the worse FF14 became. ARR was the peak.
ive never read such dumb false statement
Truth hurts when you've spent years being a delusional Yoshi-P cultist thinking he's King Midas. The original team already revamped FF14 and Yoshi-P just continued on their hard work by ruining it and turning it into Asian WoW.
Source? Besides your stinky troonhole?
Major work began on revamping FF14 almost immediately after its failed launch. SE took major personnel from other teams to make that reboot possible. Yoshi-P cultists think it was just one dude with zero credentials. While in truth, it was a huge company-wide effort that involved basically everyone who was able to.
kek still spreading bullshit.
Still be a deluded cultist thinking your no-credentials producer is somehow responsible for the biggest project in SE history, that involved hundreds of personnel, including the old guard.
here is your hardd truth
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Thanks YoshiP for saving FF.
>literally backstabbing take over
What a snake. I feel sorry for the old team. They spent a ton of energy and time making the foundations for a good game but then got hijacked by the "WoW is the best game ever" guy.
Ironic they re becoming complacent like wow team i cant wait yoshi saying the " you guys think what content you want but you really dont know"
Did we watch the same documentary? Where was the backstabbing you mentally ill troon?
HAHAHAHAHA ZERO CREDENTIALS?? The man helped lead development on Dragon Quest 9 and 10, and did such a good job managing and steering 10's development that they gave him the job of fixing the original 1.0 of ff14 while making a realm reborn. Read any of the dev interviews olaround the time. Watch the 3 or 4 part noclip doc. You are DELULU. Hahahahahahaha.
keep writing false shit, maybe it will come true in your moron mind
>ARR was the peak
Is this some kinda joke? ARR is a fricking snoozefest. It's such an infamous slog that people commonly ask if they can just skip it.
ARR has the most sovlfvl zones
Each new expansion sold more than the last, with Stormblood being the first one where even the moronic SE leadership had to admit that FF14 was their most important flagship title.
>sales
SE never reported in sales. Only in very misleading "player accounts" statements which mean nothing since the game has had more free trials than a hooker in Sao Paolo.
>the game is actually a failure, that's why it gets huge expansions for 10 years
It doesn't need to be a huge success to guarantee minimum effort DLCs. It has a dedicated niche of troons that pay 15 USD monthly + MTX. They can coast off that niche for decades.
>minimum effort DLCs
>each expansion has almost double the amount of voice acting than the one before it
>voice acting
Doesn't mean much when these expansion packs are glorified VNs. And with the translator confusing volume of words with quality of words.
>moving the goalpost for the third time
And I'm done, see you in another ten years then there's still expansions coming out for this "failure" of a game.
>quantifies size of an expansion pack with "voice acting
lmao you really tried there didn't you. FF14 is now just a glorified VN and a troony larping room. Thank your God Yoshi-P.
I like visual novels though. I actually read books, unlike you.
Except the argument was about how the expansions are a low effort investment on SE's part. Voice acting costs money. Increasing the amount of voice acting means that SE is willing to spent more and more money on a "failed" game, for over 10 years straight by now.
Keep moving that goalpost, seethe and dilate, and see you in another 10 years, little buddy.
Remember the fordola gonna has lot of lines and protagonism in shitwalker said by the dub actress in twitter? KEK
See you guys next expansion, when it's gonna break all sales records for the fifth time in a row for this "failed" game. Imagine seething for TEN YEARS on Ganker about how the game is supposedly a failure and with each passing year is just becomes more and more popular.
Only seething gays use laughing reaction images. We can hear you cry troon.
To another 20 years of a massively successful career for Yoshi-P, hear hear!
There comes a point where a reaction image just comes off desperate. You've passed that point.
Voice acting costs jack shit. The cheapest JRPGs out there can afford voice acting.
The only expensive are hiring celebs like keanu chungus, jack bauer and idris elva
>is now
always was
>see you in another ten years then there's still expansions coming out for this "failure" of a game.
GW2 is still getting expansions. This is not the gotcha you think it is.
The most recent GW2 "expansion" had less content than a Living Story season. They're not even remotely on the same level.
GW2 has been in freefall for almost 2 years now, their latest expansion died off so quickly that some of the hardest GW2 dickriders I know all quit thanks to losing all hope for the games future after sucking it off on the daily for 6-10 years.
FFXIV might be in a bad spot right now but GW2 shat the bed harder than any other MMO on the market that doesn't have "Warcraft" in its name
I get so triggered by Koji Foxisms now
Isnt he the scapegoat of japanese guys get salty since ShadowBlack folk trailer being mainly engrish? Im impressed they dont shit at him yet
he kind of looks gay, is he gay?
>ARR was the peak
I agree wholeheartedly.
It became just an even more pozzed version of WoW afterwards. There was no semblance of FF left.
Yeah, Heavensward with its themes of national pride or Stormblood with its themes of fighting global, communistic empires was truly pozzed.
Heavensward.
That's literally a lie and i don't like Yoshi, he's the one who personally convinced the suits to allow him to reboot it.
>14
>success
lol where? fricking ff15 mobile makes more than ff14
13, 14 1.0 and 15 completely killed FF.
He just desecrated its corpse.
FF15 still sold 10 million units and was overall a very profitable game for SE.
FF16 never had any hype to begin with as the trailers were just weird and un-FF as frick. I don't think it's a coincidence the latest FF7R trailer went overboard with Final Fantasy elements.
>FF15 still sold 10 million
after how many years? on all plattforms
In less platforms and years than any other FF took to hit 10m
what's your point?
FF7 took over 10 years and 5 platforms to hit 10m
FF10 took 15 years and like 8 platforms to hit 10m
FF15 took only 5.5 years to hit 10m with only 3 platforms, literally the fastest FF to ever do so and literally on less platforms than any others.
10m will always be less than 14 million
Add inflation as $60 from 1997 is worth more than $60 from 2016
10m in 5.5 years (ffxv) is better than 9.8m in 8 years (ff7)
XV has not been out for 27 years
FF7 has, it took 27 years for FF7 to hit 14m on 11 platforms
It took over 10 years for FF7 to hit 10m on 5 platforms
It took only 5.5 years for XV to hit 10m+ on only 3 platforms and its still only on 3 platforms in 7 years and is likely around 11m now
FF7 was at bargain bins since 1999
Majority of its sales are at like $6 to $12 over 20 years
Most of XV was full price to near full price, barely even 500k was below half price, and its lowest official price is $17.50/$20 only when on sale, and its default price is $35/$40
FF7s default price since 2000 has been under $12-$15
Now add inflation, if your brown mind can understand it
$60 in 1997 is worth $114.78 today
$60 in 2016 is worth $76.75 today
>FF7 was at bargain bins since 1999
Majority of its sales are at like $6 to $12 over 20 years
Most of XV was full price to near full price, barely even 500k was below half price, and its lowest official price is $17.50/$20 only when on sale, and its default price is $35/$40
FF7s default price since 2000 has been under $12-$15
You have 0 proof for any of this.
Looks like you can't count and did no research
XV did 6m in a month at full price and was at 6.6m in 11 months
FF7 was only 5.17m in 11 months
ff7 also wasn't $60 you moron it was $50 at launch and there were ways to get it even cheaper at launch
FF7 first 11 months was 5.17m at $50 (with inflation $95.65) is $494m
FFXV first 11 months was 6.6m at $60 (with inflation $76.75 (does not even include collectors or deluxe edition prices into this which are a big factor too as they cost significantly higher too) is $506m
cope
He just did the got of necrophilia or dissecrate yes
Holy esl
13, 14 1.0, 14 2.0 and 16 killed FF
15 saved it only for 14 and 16 to kill it again
>15 saved it
People said the same thing when Sakaguchi left but here we are. Also 16 was immeasurably better than the 13 trilogy. If we can live through that or Advent Children, I think we'll be fine.
What caused barry seethe?
as long as Barry is alive FFXVI will NEVER stop being relevant on Ganker
hes just a seething moron and his only purpose in his moronic life is spreading missinformation at Ganker
Suddenly Yoshi-Piss is no longer talking as much shit about the older FF games (all sold better)
Why does FF14 and FF16 create so much seethe on this board? I don't get it.
people defending bad games
Ok so why is it every day people posting against those games though? Why specifically ff14 and ff16?
I see, I'll have to look more into it I've not really played the final fantasy games, i just see the threads always on here.
Was it? What was bad about it, I heard it's coming to PC?
It’s actual flaws is pretty weak exploration, boring side quest content (the writing is ranges from fine to good), and off story pacing at two points. The real reason people have been on the game’s ass is because it’s basically a full on character action game now, and FF fans can’t comprehend action gameplay that doesn’t tell them everything immediately or doesn’t have some “push the square block in the square hole” elemental affinities (despite this being a plague on good action game design).
Just the ravings of a mad abbo clown now that XV isn't the current mainline FF title anymore. Yoshida doesn't actually matter, it could have been anyone at the helm really and the moronic abbo tendie would have behaved the same.
FF16 was so shit.
It really wasn't though, it was average at worst.
It's literally, unironically just a single guy and a handful of copycats.
You should be looking more at the ones desperate to defend those slop
>FFXVI cant even hit 4 million sales
>XIV has its biggest dropoff in players in its entire lifespan (inb4 MUH END OF EXPANSION cope)
>Yoshit troons do everything to deny reality and pretend that yoshida isnt killing the franchise
well at least we have rebirth, the last possible hope for FF but those ubisoft towers made me worried
>ACTION KILLED FF
>LET'S PUT ALL OUR EGGS INTO ANOTHER ACTION GAME
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
looks pretty kino. Combines action with the ATB system. It has party members, a magic system, elemental weaknesses, the famous materia system etc etc
im excited. Frick yoshit for making a shitty action game with no good RPG mechanics
every move in that webm is cutscene attack. mind as well make this shit a QTE at this point. oh wait, i forgot, you zoomers love movie games
>every move in that webm is cutscene attack
You should look up the original ff7 and see all the cutscene attacks, kiddo.
nobody said action killed ff
removing rpg shit did
and 16 literally removed more rpg shit than any ff
lmao why the frick does people still into Rebirth after Remake that rape the original lore and stories? What a bunch of cucks.
>FFXVI is a big success for a Sony exclusive game
>FFXIV is as healthy as ever
>Bazztek Black person keeps seething and crying and pissing himself over these truths
>I stumbled across it
>FFXVI is a big success
>XIV community literally talking about its massive player dropoff
>UHHHH DOESNT EXIST COPE
>XVI cant even sell 4 million
>UHHHHH ITS A HUGE SUCCESS COPE
Kek this is getting sad HKmoron. You are a zoomer so its pretty obvious that you have been brought up to defend corporations like your life depends on it
>I stumbled across it
Bazztek is such a pathetic little worm lmao. "I stumbled across it" my ass.
Sametroon
samegayging all the time is what you do thought, barry
its funny how HKmoron is such a newbie zoomer he doesnt understand the one minute apart samegay posts
>hes trying again to make up some boogie man to deflect from his schizo seething about FF games better than 15
But is Barry Australian or Swede? According to Yoshi-Piss cultists, everything is by Barry.
barry/bazz is a smelly abo
hes so mindbroken that its easy to copy his posting style for easy (you)s
Are we talking to Barry here?
its funny how when people mention HKmoron, you get so fricking defensive every single time
imagine posting the “stumbled acrossed it” image on your fricking twitter and never expected barry or any other FF schizo to find it and expose you
but i guess you didnt expect any FF schizo to “stumble across it”
>everyone that posts an image about a well known lolcow is the same person
>ITS NOT ME I SWEAR STOP TALKING ABOUT IT
Kek imagine exposing your twitter like a moronic zoomer. I would rather kill myself than doxx myself on this shithole
>SBK91
>Dreamboum
>Kagari
>let newSchizo = prompt('add new made up schizo to freely occupy your mind?');
That's pretty fricking gay bazzkek
>FFXIV is as healthy as ever
>historic lowest number of new players
>existing players unsubbing en masse
Yoshida seems to really be doing a good job, right?
A game carried by its cash shop does not a good game make
Barry's still a freak though, but XIV really is a shell of something that had a ton of potential
This image is as bad as the Dragonflight ad campaign; why would they ever acknowledge these points?
ARR during it's run and playing it now are completely different games entirely
The former was quite charming with a closer knit community, better world building, and less fujobaiting/scion wanking
See you next summer when Dawntrail breaks all records once again and Yoshi-P leads development for another flagship title.
>dawnfail
lol
lmao
yoshitpiss already said he's not doing ff17 or ff18
Do you know what 'content drought' means? The game is about to enter a ten month period of content drought, after a series of widely agreed to be 'middling' post-expansion patches. If you have done everything you wanted to in the game, you unsubscribed. The only people left are raiders and morons who think the game is Second Life. There is no long-term midcore content, or even casual content for players to desire to do; if you don't raidlog and don't have a reason to log on, people DO unsubscribe. One thing Yoshida is guilty of is acting both like people unsubscribing out of frustration with the game's direction or lack of things to do is the same as the 'natural ebb and flow' of players; but that's entirely separate from what you're trying to claim.
Also: new players is the worst statistic to use ever to argue that an MMO is dying because they need to play for over 200 hours to do anything fun and will likely hit a quit point long before end game.
>t. ultimate pf moron
I don't know what you think I was arguing, but I thought it was obvious the game isn't healthly and while every other expansion had droughts, none of them were hitting this hard or this early
The design choices and lack of engaging non-formulaic content being the likely being the culprits
ff16 literally tanked SEs operating income and stock you moron
14 is dying
HKmoron you stupid xvi zoomer troon seaBlack person you got exposed for looking up troony porn on /gif/ a few days ago
Stop projecting and samegayging, you just keep digging your own grave
>I stumbled across it
I wish. Final Fantasy deserved to die a long fricking time ago.
Good
Ff troons deserve to lose
Final Fantasy died a long time ago. Good morning anon.
7R2 is out in a few month and a DLC for 16 got announced a few weeks ago. wtf is this thread?
>dead
>7R:2
>16's new content
>14's patch and upcoming expansion
>it's another "Barry starts talking to someone nobody has ever heard of" schizo episode
I love it, he keeps doing it every so often, just random new people that he is utterly convinced have followed him on Ganker.
HKmoron you literally posted it on your twitter and keep making the exact posts whenever anyone shits on you
>128 replies
>38 posters
xivcultist thread?
schizo thread
Remember when this game disrespected its players by forcing them to watch disgusting ugly homosexuals, who look like child rapists, making out on screen?
Glad this pozzed homosexualtroony game flopped
Yeah 15 was dogshit with its homosexual boyband party
XV was indeed dog shit, but at least there's no pozzed shit in it
Did you miss the 2 homos kissing in XVI?
not even a company like blizzard added a forced cinematic of homos exchanging anal worms in their games
>alienates waifugays
>encourages homoshit
You know that things are bad when even BG3, a WRPG game, has like, hundreds of waifu threads daily, while XVI, a JRPG game, had none of that. The game is clearly aimed at homosexuals. No wonder it didn't sell. Go woke go broke, simple as
it didn't sell well because i'm waiting for PS5 pro and DLC
>shit on 16
>xvi troon immediately deflects to superior non pozzed games that he projects his own insecurity onto
Yeah BG3 was disgusting, homosexuality mixed with bestiality. The degradation of Western civilisation.
>FFXVI was a succes-
>Twitch viewers as a measure of success
Holy zoomzoom.
>IT DOESNT…COUNT
If older turn based FF games are constantly getting more views than FF than you know you fricked up
but the bias fanbase will never talk about yoshidas 3 month game losing to games over 2 decades like D4 losing to D3/4
>Twitch viewers as a measure of success
Holy moly zoomzoom.
If I mention views and how 2 decade old FF games are outviewing it it doesnt count
If I post the 2 billion dollar loss it doesnt count
If I post how FFXIV is losing massive players it doesnt count
If I post how XVI got the weakest famitsu sales in the franchise it doesnt count
If I say how pikmin 4 beat it in japan and remnant 2 in america it doesnt count
If I say how XVI gets no porn, cosplays or how artists gave up on it after a week it doesnt count
If i mention how XVI hasnt sold 4 million yet it doesnt count
if i mention how theres no discussion of it it outside this site it doesnt count
If i mention how most ecelebs hate it it doesnt count
no wonder you guys are called yoshit cultists. You love to deny reality
A toast, to another decade of wild success for Yoshi-P, FFXIV and the PC release for FFXVI bringing another couple of millions of sales.
They simply cannot fathom than FFXVI is truly the worst FF and responsible for damaging the FF brand irreparably more than ever.
>Viewers
Look at this moron, look at him and laugh.
>FFXVI was a succes
Literally nobody is saying this anymore lol
blunder of the century
this is the fastest se has ever put a ff on sale
hell not even forspoken got an official square enix discount this as quick as ff16 did
>Unironically using viewer counts
>for anything
Holy shit lmao
see
>unironically crying out injustice
>Reddit spacing
Holy shit lmao
>FFXVI sold as expecte-
I guess when I expect something to do poorly and it does poorly then my expectations are met...
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG OUT
>XVI
>little artwork at launch and none made since then
>no cosplays
>no porn
>no discussion outside this shithole
>japan hated it
>most evelebs hated it
>made square lose 2 billion dollars
>lowest selling mainline FF on the famitsu threads
>lost to pikmin and remnant 2
>near double digit views on twitch
>success
why doesn't FF just go back to being a sprite-based turn based RPG so they don't cost a bazillion dollarydoos and they can be sold on nintendo consoles which are more popular in japan
they should make XVII with 12's gameplay
or a new Tactics just like the old one but all 4k and what not
IIRC the PSP one even had multiplayer
Ah, Barry's swedish WoW troony boyfriend is here too.
>Yoshit cultists hallucinating new boogeymen
kek
I thought he was German? I can't keep up with all these boogeymen.
Yoshit cultists hallucinate new shit everyday
they really think they arent as deranged as barry when theyve made more boogeymen than him
Yoshi Peed on himself!
I'm honestly surprised at how long XIV has stuck around. I remember 10 years ago, how it'd almost never get discussed outside of that circlejerk /vg/ thread - now it's all like that in Ganker of all places, and not only does the gameplay being perfect for little kids apparently not matter, but they do everything they can to distract from that by shilling the netflix slop backwash of a story that gets put out every expansion.
See you next expansion, bucko! Don't forget to seethe and dilate when it's, once again, an even bigger success than the one before it.
I'm not stopping you from discussing the parts of XIV you like. It's just that gameplay is never one of them, unless it's to moan about others not following simple instructions or failing their rotations.
He must pay for his sins
Reminder that xv will never outsell og ff7
And that's okay, friendship has ended with Tabata for now, Nomura is now abbo c**ts current best friend.
It is already outpacing og FF7 and selling better comparing time span since release
XV sold 10m+ in 5.5 years
FF7 was at 9.8m in 8 years and took over 10 years to finally hit 10m
You are literally a SEABlack person
Yes it did and it is still selling better than any other FF in the same timespan since release compared
14m will always be less than 10m Barry.
$60 in 1997 is worth more than $60 in 2016. It's called inflation.
10m in 5.5 years is more than 9.8m in 8 years
And even including inflation FF7 has sold around 7m at $12 to $6 over 20 years
FF7, ff8 and others momey went to funding spirits within you tard which lost a frickton
XV sold more at full price than ff7 did too.
>he still doesn't understand inflation
I'll make it simple, the 9.8 million were worth more in today's money, nearly double.
The 10m in 5.5 years is worth at best, 10% more today than in that time period.
Even if ffxv went to $15, it would never sell 14m copies, even in 27 years. It will top out in the 11 million range and that will be it.
I'll make it simple for you
XV sold more at full price and higher price points than FF7 ever did and FF7 has been at literally $15 or below since 2000, it didnt hit 9.8m until 2005 where it had been in bargain bins only for over 5 years already
XV sold more, made more money and is more successful
XV has already sold more than ff7 in every fricking year compared to XVs current elapsed years, it is already at the 11 million range
XV could sell 0 for the next 3 years and it still will be selling better than FF7 did in the same timespan
>XV sold more at full price than ff7 did too.
0 proof.
Stop coping
The 9.8 million in 8 years is pre-psn
Therefore it was sold at either $60 for the original release or $30 for the playstation Platinum release.
It wasn't $12 until after the ps3's release when the psn rom was on the ps store. It sold 4 million There and in other online stores, which had it at more than $12, sometimes as high as $30.
moron it was at $19 since 2000 and that number includes the pccdrom version which was also cheaper too
Its been at $15 or below since it came to ps3/psp
its been $12 to $6 its entire steam lifespan
>He's still stumbling
14 million is more than 10 million
10m in 5.5 years is more than 9.8m in 8 years yes.
So 14 is more than 10 huh?
BTW, why did you make your psn profile private?
Is it because you didn't finish the XV dlcs or the fact you bought ff7r and kh3?
14m in 27 years on 11 platforms is not as impressive as 10m in 5.5 years on 3 platforms yes
Nathan are you coping than XV is still to this day outpacing every FF ever?
>he bought games he says he hated
>he gave nomura money
>He's still malding og 7 sold more
>he stumbled on to tyranny porn
Am I Nathan or hkmoron? Kek
HKmoron you already admit that you looked up troony porn on /gif/
You're malting xv is still selfish better than any ff when comparing release timespans
You're malding yoshitpisses lost
Youre malding nomura AAAdirected FF sold less than Tabata's AAA directed FF
Youre malding people who bought the FFs you shilled have countless valid criticism over them
Yeah bit why did you buy Nomuras games?
>noooo you cannot criticize games you brought reeeeeee
But if nomura sucks why did you buy them?
I don't like any game after ff12 so I agree they're bad.
Also you just confirmed that you are indeed barry
>nooooo you cannot buy games to make informed criticism
>reeeee ur my boogeymen because i said so
>confirms he bought kh3 and ff7r as shown by bazzteks psn profile
>but I am not bazztek
ok
>still sperging off about some literal who and shit nobody was talking about
>reeee no you cannot buy games to criticize them
>asks why he bought 2 games in reference to bazzteks psn
>confirms he bought them
You can only be so anonymous when you out yourself Barry, don't try to walk it back now
You could always spend your money on other things and not engage in conversations about video games on the internet from a creator that makes you upset.
FF was supposed to be turn based all along, its over . . .
b-but everyone likes wow clones and shameless got knockoffs! guy is a fricking hack, only became popular casue he cried and women got emo
how many in the thread are barry or is it copycats?
Barry has a very distinctive way of posting, having a specific non-Ganker bogeyman and repeated mantras like yoshipiss and cultist, which are signs of autism.
It's also 8:30pm in Melbourne so prime Barry hours
Hahaha
HKmoron on suicide watch
>totally one guy
>HKmoron using multiple devices again
I would buy and play them if they were turn based, otherwise idc
Nomura and Kitase killed Final Fantasy.
>Barry still malding that 10 million is less than 14 million
The number 14 is triggering for Barry, please understand
sounds like doing 10m in 5.5 years being better than 9.8m in 8 years triggers you
Sounds like you're malding xv is outpacing every ff and best selling ff when time aligned
>Barry BTFOing the yoshit pissers
BASED BASED BASED GET EM BARRY
So XV and 14 have both sold in the 10 million copy range.
With subs on top of that 14 would have to have byfo XVs earnings.
14>>og 7 with inflation>>>>>>>>>>the nomura/tabata boy band experience
xv sold more than ff7 in the same timespan and even counting inflation xv made more, 14 has barely anyone playing it since 90% of its players are free trial accounts not actual paying subs
ARR only did 1.45m at launch
ARR only had at least 6m paid subs after 5 yeats aka 6m people who payed for a sub at least once
after that they started fudging the numbers by counting free trial players into the number because it was doing so poor
in reality shb and ew barely had 1.5m people even play it
also xv mobile makes more than every se mmo combined
>everyone is free trial
So 20 million people each month are just doing the trial, then a brand new 20 million turn up next month?
>bro this random site is totally legit bro
next youll cite mmo population which uses fricking reddit and twitter engagement to create an "estimate" of the mmo active subs
I'll just leave this here
What is 20 million times $15
>xiv cultist doesn't know xiv "players" are 90% free trial accounts not payed subs
And what happens when the free trial ends?
Another 15 million new players turn up?
This is your cope Barry?
They fall off
most people only do ARR
the fact barely 1.5m people have even done shb or ew is proof
ff14 gays holy frick you're moronic
there's no way you gays actually believe that, do you?
Anon you're fricking moronic
Killed FF and killed all forums relating to it tbh. MMO-gay jannies and mods ban anyone with criticism at the drop of a hat while spamming threads with their discord pals.
Don't worry, Epic will save SE and FF.
I have an honest question. No shitpost. No deflection or boogeyman namecalling
Why do people do everything that it takes to defend yoshida so much? Been gaming since the 90s and never seen a game dev so defended out of any others. At least kojima or todd or miyazaki has people that like unironically shitposting about them. Even their fans do it
you shitpost about yoshida and you have an army going after you. Why do this to a business man like him? He doesnt actually care about you
He created a cult out of being an underdog, and fostered a communication of literal trannies who projected their social standing to FF14 being a failure, so when they saw him trying to fix it and only being less shit than 1.0 they deified him
yoshitpiss has made 0 fricking games, he just reskinned ff14 into a wow clone and the mmogay ate it up
he's also a literal PR man who tells people what they want to hear and it creates the impression that "wow he totally gets it, he's just like us!!"
He knows how to manipulate people and his targets are weak willed nothing people that would play an mmo to begin with, so that is how he created his cult
It's not about defending yoshida, it's about keeping the schizo occupied, something to do, validate his existence. Inactivity may lead to suicide so you see, we're saving lives over here.
>“its not about defending yoshida”
>posts a pic of yoshida and continues to defend him
proved his point
XIV troons talking about preventing suicide is rich when your entire mmo is troony central
This but 1 guy and Tabata.
He's been doing it since 2011
>no deflection
>yoshida gay proceeds to deflect
sometimes i dont even know if you gays can read
>xvitroon can do nothing but deflect
yoshidagays actually believe ffxiv has 20 million active players
They are severely mentally ill, please understand
How long do you think Barry will keep this up?
2025?
2030?
as long as yoshidagays keep fellating yoshida, a below average japanese salary man that square was smart enough to use as a salesman
Jesas
So he's gonna spend his time on here, gamefaqs, twitter and God knows where else doing this until xiv shuts down which will be like another 10 years at this point
What a life
Of course. barry is not an individual anymore. its a movement. an idea.
As long as trannies like you keep sucking off and defending yoshida at every turn, these people will exist to shit on you and the guy you defend for free on a backwater vietnamese forum
It seems I hit a nerve with that one
Truth hurts?
>truth
kek what truth? That the players are in free fall? This cope is sad at this point
Man you're mad. BTW, I don't like xiv either, every ff past 12 has been dogshit
You can add me to your bogeyman list, ff12 anon
But seriously, why did you buy kh3 and ff7r if you hate nomura?
You already knew what his games are like.
I saved this image from 2ch
Japan hates yoshitpiss
it just shows the difference between western gaming communities and japans
Yoshida betrayed FF fans. As a result they shit on him and make fun of him
but even on Ganker, western zoomer fans who never grew up with older FF games do everything they can to defend him and praise everything he does because zoomers see brands as a religion in the west
based japs
anon, the average yoshidagay on Ganker is a FF14 troony, that is also most likely a former blizzard shit eating drone, which explains their behavior
true. Tbh FFXIV did actually get decent criticism way back when XIV was old and yoshida didnt have an ego
then blizztards flooded XIV and praised yoshida at every step they can giving him a godlike ego
new*
well luckily they are in the minority, because sane people don't worship brands or corporate figures
every loss yoshida takes is a loss for these people, which should've been shunned from society a long time ago
You mean the image you made yourself?
>2ch
Oh, so you've fled there now after being found out spamming your horseshit about Luminous on 5ch? kek
OH NO NO NO NO
nta but 2ch makes images shitting on FF16 all the time, here
Thx for the image anon
>10 years
there isnt a man like assmongold to prop the game again. Its gonna easily be a steady decline especially after the disaster that was EWs patches
Yet you've been here all this time shilling yoshitpiss and thinking literally only one person doesn't like ff14 or 16
Longer than that obviously
>first he saves it
>then destroys it
How did he do it?
I am Barry
Based
I don't like any ff past 12 but you do you
Even 5ch is shitting on FF14 and FF16
I hope Final Fantasy comes back and kills him.
Why cant barry just go after DMC and KH like he did last year
What did yoshida do to mindbroke him to make threads everyday about how XVI failed
because everyone remembers how smug and arrogant yoshidagays were before the game actually released, with shills saying it will sell over 10 million copies first week, defending it at every turn and mocking everyone that disagreed
now FF16 is a forgotten pile of garbage that will go down in history as just another below average slop
I honestly dont remember seeing that
I only saw some posts about how people thought it would make the PS5 worth buying
it still isnt just for 1 good game
Once the KH4 hype train gets moving he'll show his face again. Right now the series is in a lull.
Until then we can expect heavy showers over FF16 while the DLC & PC version is on the way, along with Rebirth.
Remember when Barry claimed that XV was the only ff game where the summons were important to the story?
Then when he got btfo he would disappear for 5 minutes then come back with wiki articles about other ff games he hasn't played
Great thread
So what news pushed Bazzgay over the edge this time? He's been seething a lot lately about Yoshida and Final Fantasy in general.
Is the Abbo pissed that SE is making deals with Microsoft now?
Rebirth looking great and shitting all over XV make him sperg out?
Does anyone here actually play ff14 or is Barry just yelling at the void?
>wow I just killed Final Fantasy… with my game
>thatMs something I do now
List of games better than XV and have sold more
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games
Let's see him autistically run down this list with cope
Didn't Sekiro hit 10 million the other day? Accomplished it in faster time than FFXV too...
Almost brings a tear to my eye.
Surprisingly Barry doesn't mald about monhun
IIRC, his viewpoint is that MH was Nintendo exclusive for a while so World was win because they took it from Nintendo. Yeah he also consolewar shitflings with MH and God knows Ganker made it impossible to actually talk about MH due to it
>It's up to FF7 to save Square
>AGAIN
honestly i would get the mindless yoshida defense force if we were still in the late shadowbringers patch days
but after endwalkers disastrous patches and the shitheap that was XVI, i dont understand how anyone can defend yoshida at this point i just dont. He really learned how to manipulate his audience so he could get away with anything
Your headcanon is not reality.
FF16 is already memoryholed. the only threads that get any activity are these ones that shit on the game or the guy that made it
FF14 is losing so many players, that its back to Stormblood numbers.
he cries on camera and soken had cancer
now buy the garbage they shit out
I don't think anyone itt gives a frick about 14 and 16, they're just here for more stumbled lolcow posts
why are they like this?
you know why. If you say it they will get mad
Why are you samegayging 1 minute apart?
14,15 and 16 all suck btw
Same garbage was posted on these boards. MMO-gays are cancer
I'm literally going to buy a PS5 for a Final Fantasy game.
It's literally only exclusive to PS5 for three months.
Barry guy sounds pretty based for pissing off the Yoshit-Piss troon cult. They can't stop crying.
Says totally not-barry
I love the schizophrenia he's caused.
>schizophrenia he has
Ftfy
One does not exclude the other.
I'm a XIV-gay and it doesn't bother me, I find it funny.
Thank you for finally killing that shit series, asiatic-san
>He killed Final Fantasy.
based. now ff can live up to its name.
No it can't, since they aren't fantasy games.
Lies of Yoshi P
Ouch
I'm pretty sure FF died because everything after 10 has been absolute dog shit.
Frick you 12 is great
I've only ever played Crystal Chronicles on the GameCube. I picked this up because some of the giant crystals in the trailers looked cool. Won't have the best classic FFs to compare it to so maybe it'll be allright.
He didn't, Barry.
He, along with Nomura, saved FF after the trainwreck that was 15
Hi Titanman
It's amazing how everyone moved on from this game, regardless of their opinion about it and you Black folk are still here seething and/or defending it 24/7 in the worst ways possible.
At least it's somewhat amusing looking at the amazing mental gymnastics and wild leaps of logic displayed here, and I guess the jannies think the same.