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One could say that it roped itself like its troon target audience?
>Delusional moron thinks of suicide
>Game is still going great so he keeps coping over suicide
many such cases, KEK
Misc schizos in every fricking thread these days
>nobody telling these stinky troons to frick off
Sad
>/misc/ isn't in every thread, you schizo!!
>first post in every thread: troony! troony? troony!! troony!? troony!!!
Ack yourself.
Hating trannies isn't a /misc/-thing.
You will never pass. have a nice day.
have fun losing another one this year, tourist.
>"Must be troon-related!"
Please, seek help.
>troon target audience
the game that said "lol no" to people spamming them for troony flag capes is targeting troons?
It's okay for a game to run out of content, it's also okay to stop playing it at that point
its okay for a game to run out of content. Its not okay for a peepee bongo game to poop its pants. It upset Ganker and now it has to pay the price of being poonted and laughed at
Please enlighten me as to what a "peepee bongo" game is.
>I need drip fed hook and line bullshit to keep me playing a game instead of playing for the gameplay
You're weak
I paid for it so it should make itself worthwhile. The slow grind leveling killed it. I usually just torrent games so they can run out whenever but this ran out too fast. Also no microphone optimization options still
What the frick did you expect from a coop shooter? Its added more mission types, more enemies and special major orders to change the flow and maps up than any other coop game out and its only been out a few months. Once you "get" the game and understand the controls and enemies, if you dont actually like the gameplay, it will feel more stale and less "new" to you.
How many hours do you have logged?
You would've dropped left 4 dead and called it a kusoge
I did drop l4d when I got bored of the missions. Not everyone is autistic like you, anon
I got 75 hours out of it and stopped slightly before the last warbond release
It's the type of game that's nice to own like l4d2 because at some point in the future people will go "hey you wanna play a few rounds of helldivers?" If you don't own it you'll be a fricking loser and pressured into getting it
leveling past 25 is literally pointless, it just gives new titles
you're a fricking moron
slow grind? you unlock everything by level 25, something you can achieve in a few days of casual gameplay
you can complete difficulty 9 missions with the starter gear
the "grind" only matters for completionists, but its not needed in any shape or form to finish the game
>The slow grind leveling killed it.
All for nothing, all they do is nerf everything constantly, it is becoming less and less fun. The swedes are moronic, they try to imprint the game of "realism" without understanding it is a fricking video game and most people just want to shoot.
The devs misinterpreted the "cannon fodder" aspect of the game quite a loot and can't for the frick of them balance anything, for them balancing is just reducing the number of magazines or weapon damage.
You would have a point if the game released with all the content it was meant to release with.
Instead it got released and the content that should have been in the game is slowly being patched in. Full price for a half baked game.
>Full price
Forty dollars
That's the full price yes.
Usually, when you buy early access games, you don't pay full price because you're not getting the full game.
>Usually
Show me 5 examples, if its usually then you should have no problem since the vast majority apparently do this
>not getting the full game
I have the full game, what are you missing
>what are you missing
Vehicles
Actually fun missions
Enemies that don't suck to fight
More biomes than just DUDE FOG LMAO and DUDE ICESTORM LMAO
Guns that I can use without buying a seasonpass (israelitery of the highest order btw)
AI controlled teammates so I don't have to deal with mouthbreathers like you
An actual story/campaign
I regularily drop at difficulty 5 with randoms and we keep getting our shit pushed in by chargers and destroyers, the game is not fun, unbalanced and designed for zoom zooms that just want to take clips of whacky ragdolls and explosions. The Goat-Simulator of coop shooters
>I regularily drop at difficulty 5 with randoms and we keep getting our shit pushed in by chargers and destroyers
Literally a skill issue.
>filtered on difficulty 5
Anon...
>AI controlled teammates so I don't have to deal with mouthbreathers like you
I havent played below diff 8 in so long i dont even remember the last time i played a diff 5. Lol at "getting our shit pushed in."
Vehicles and biomes wont help you if you cant even do diff 5, shitter.
>difficulty 5
ok Gramps, heres what you do, you take your valium, then you hop on discord and make some high level friends that only do helldives, drop with them for a whole weekend on the bot front, by the time the valium wears off youll be a killing machine
No, Anon. You are the mouthbreathers.
>The Goat-Simulator of coop shooters
Skibidi Baphomet
>filtered at 5
this has got to be a troll right? people don't genuinely get filtered by 5 right?
not him, but I did get fricked over on my first mission because I didn't know what to do against the fire tornado (which was on top of my escape pod)
I only did once and it was because the game decided that dropping 3 hulks on top of me (yes you read that right) back in Draupnir was a good idea, it was a few patches ago
>diff 5 with randos
You aren't even playing the same game you fricking useless shitter Jesus christ Ganker
119 Palestinians died screaming in the last 24 hours
How many died while shutting the frick up?
>both the patch notes as well as the patching process are bugged
Swedes rack disciprin
>I regularily drop at difficulty 5 with randoms and we keep getting our shit pushed in
>made me read 2/3s of that word salad before admitting you are a shitter who can't even play diff 5
kys
>AI controlled teammates so I don't have to deal with mouthbreathers like you
This.
I want my 4 Boosters and friendship doors without having to interact with other disgusting meat bags.
I would probably quit playing multiplayer with the cretins who wait until shuttle to kick me or crash my game if they added mercenary helldivers. Helldivers I could hire for a little bit of req that maybe have some special properties like specifica strategems for things they are good at (this one clears trash, this one clears heavies, this one prioritizes stealth, etc)
Holy frick.
I don't even think this is bait.
We have a genuine moron on our hands here, gentlemen. He's not even pretending
Why did you mention that you're getting filtered at baby difficulty lmao
Your turn to die
Luna nights back when it was in EA
Gensokyo Night Festival
The three above are the only early access game I bought, here are some random ones I found by clicking results in early access games
Tricky Tracks - Early Access
Manor Lords
palworld
Valheim
More that I don't care to list because you're a moron. Add to the fact that
>Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
Is a default question in the early access warning blurb on steam and you'd answer your own question
What I'm missing is the third faction that was in the first game, all fully in the files and about 80% done rigging wise since release, same with vehicles, same with mechs, same with weapons and all other "leaks" that have been in the files since the game released, about 90% done but still not in the game.
>Manor Lords
>palworld
>Valheim
KEK. Holy frick you are calling a launch sale "cheaper because early access." What a fricking moron. They arent even out of early access you cant even say if they will get more expensive
Theres 3 i can name that properly upped the price.
We Happy Few
Ark
Breathage.
They actually gave discounts to early access buyers, not this "on sale for 1 week at launch" you stupid fricking moron
Manor Lords
>Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
>“We might increase the price during the Early Access period as additional content and features are added.”
Palworld
>Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
>“The price of the game may increase at or closer to the official release.”
Valheim
>Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
>“No definitive plans here yet, but it is likely that the price will be increased over the course of the Early Access period.”
>may increase
Thats just so they dont get fricked if they do end up having to up the price.
Also manor lords is 40 dollars, according to you thats
>FULL PRICED TOO MUCH FOR MY BROKE ASS
If you want to be a fricking moron about it, I went on each early access to 3 games to replace these with definitive yes
The long drive
>Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
>“Yes, the full game will cost about the double of the early access price, to match the game's future value.”
Lightyear frontier
>“As the game will vastly increase in content over the course of Early Access, the full release will come with an increase in price. However, we will clearly communicate the specifics of the price change well ahead of release to give players the opportunity to purchase before it happens.”
Forever Skies
>We won't be changing the price during EA. However, we are planning to do so after the full release.”
Holy frick predicted, morons like you are like fricking clockwork.
Helldivers is effectively not in early access if you compare that to what early access means nowadays
Tell that to the moron that thinks 40 dollars was too much for it. The devs are moronic, frick up the easiest things and balance like shit but calling it a lack of content is pants on head stupid
With how buggy and more than half the content from the first game missing, it's about on par.
>"Half" the content from a game in a different genre with years of updates isn't here
Stop being a Black person
The game is also only about as buggy as full launch games
And I'm just saying you shouldn't settle for that for a full release, but it seems like everyone's a braindead moron nowadays.
It's because of people like you they get away with putting out half baked shit and patching it later.
Helldivers 2 has more shit than l4d2 launch
L4D2 at launch wasn't half baked, it came out with all intented features and is the better game.
L4D2 was a full priced expansion pack for L4D1.
They barely even changed it
If L4D2 came out without the smoker and boomer, had only one or two new special infected, 1 melee weapon and half of the new guns and they were added over the years, you'd have a point.
L4D2 is decent but it has measurably less content than HD2 because it came from a completely different generation.
HD2 is still a full game and everything that gets added can be accessed without paying more than the original price.
I suppose it could've had even more content on launch but Swedes are moronic and I don't treat them like actual people.
Vallheim genuinely sucked
Manor lords looks cool
Idk why the palworld dev didn't update it
>$40 is full price
Have you just stopped paying attention to game prices since the PS5 came out?
Then why are the devs drip feeding the players garbage? Here you go a new toy, btw it sucks and useless wow
You type like a pajeet.
No idea, I don't give a shit. When I want to play a horde shooter I either launch Helldivers or Payday 2 and then having fun shooting stuff
>This game died
Its still consistently getting 160-200k peak players a day. Its by far the most played coop game. morons on Ganker have no idea what a dead game is
look how nobody responds to this post.
There's fifty thousand people playing in the wee hours of a sunday morning. How is that dead?
>Sunday morning
Monday morning. Sunday night. Fug.
Unless a game has over 100,000 players non-stop, Ganker will consider it dead
Just two more weeks OP
It's just sad that this is what everyone on the internet has turned into. If things do happen to go to shit, it'll end up being a self-fullfilling prophecy because of these miserable homosexuals infesting the world with their bullshit.
4 hours to liberate Chooke, it's over, bros. We failed the MO
If they wanted the MO done they would have made it on bug planets. Ive had enough of bots
It was failed from the start. Progress was too slow on bot planets for it to be feasible. We needed a day to liberate each planet, and we had 3 days to get 4 planets.
>Drop the game a few days and come back
>100 Medals added to my account from past MOs
Thanks for the unlocks bros. I can slav squat with my Grenade Pistol now
I agree but I got 160 hours out of it so far so who cares
Same here. I paid 40 bucks got 130 hours with friends and randos totally worth it.
You think low numbers on Twitch mean something don't you
>bot mission
>AA modifier for -1 stratagem
Why would I want to do these missions? I can do helldives with them but they are not an enjoyable challenge.
CYBERSTAN
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
>Join SOS
>T9 Helldive right between 2 AT-TEs
>Dodge and weave to safety
>Call down new launcher
>Fire
>Die
>Nothing else dies
Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest.
Still love this game, it hurts so good to play it.
>new launcher
Thats where you fricked up. That is a giant pile of shit and they even said its not even the release version of it, but the bugged unpatched version.
Theres a lot to hate about the devs and their smug attitude but "dead game" and "no content" arent them
The functionality is trash yes, but even if that is fixed the damage is so shitty it’s not worth a damn. I took it to a bug mission and it wasn’t killing shit. Useless against chargers, titans, and spewers and I swear it didn’t even clear full patrols of light enemies.
new launcher is great for teamkills lol
I also am stuck using the same build since half the guns in the game just suck ass to use, in total youve got
>The Dominator
>The Eruptor
>The Sickle
>The Breaker (Spray,incendiary,and default)
>The Punisher
Thats it really, youve got maybe 8 primary weapons that are usable out of the 20? we have
The game would be way more fun if i was able to actually use the gun i spend 80 medals on instead if a coin flip of "is this the one good weapon out of this war bond?"
>no scorcher in the list
>included spray and incendiary for the breaker
do you even play the game?
Forgot the scorcher, dominator does well enough for bots i dont use it
The incendiary and spray are great for bugs
There's only one secondary weapon worth having as well
>died unceremoniously
>still has almost a quarter million people playing at peak hours and is still getting frequent content updates and patches
stop posting
It's not dead but it's a miracle it's survived with how they break shit worse with every patch and content drop. Fricking 2 steps forward, 3 steps back without fail. The next is supposed to a big "monthly" update too, so I wonder just how bad they'll frick it up this time. I already haven't been able to play for two weeks with whatever they broke fixing shit making me to crash every 5 minutes. I haven't really felt like playing much anyway but still, disappointing.
It needs:
>summoning tanks for 2 people
>aiming artillery like the machinegun
>more huge monsters
>bomber-class like EDF
>more mech
I think it could have kept a lot more momentum if they actually fixed bugs. As of right now, a concerning amount of the ship upgrades don't do shit or are severely bugged. And the past couple patches have done nothing to address them.
It speaks to the game's charm that tens of thousands of people are still playing it, even with a couple months gone by. What percentage of people dropped off because they were sick of the game bugs? It doesn't really matter since they already got people's money. And mine too, it was still worth the hundred hours I put it despite the poor post-game patches.
bugs are way more annoying to fight, how is there twice the player base on that front at all times?
Bots suck way more at diff 9. In bugs you can just kite and get out of a sticky situation.
Bots will just hold you behind a rock with suppression fire until a flame hulk comes to 1 shot you, and if you poke out you get headshot by 5 heavy devastators.
Bugs are easier to kill closer. Bots can snipe you from the other side of the map, and some maps have clouds and shit, making them hard to spot.
NEW PATCH IS OUT
>quasar 5 second added to cooldown.
THAT GUN IS DEAD
>Crossbow botched (??????)
>HMG still ass because no ammo change
>No Adjudicator Damage buff
Now to find out what they broke trying to fix shit
>they didn't fix the Spear
>this is despite the fact that an official spokesperson for the studio in the discord says that the Spear was "fixed internally 17 days ago"
it was fixed in the proof of concept environment
To be fair, I've been in situations where I fix fundamentally broken shitware and have it gated by QA and release idiocy.
>Scopes are still fricked
they work as intended.
skill issue
>scythe buff
???? That has got to be the most unexpected change, given their track record.
Who acres about less magazine lol it has infinite ammo if you're not a moron.
Wait I'm thinking of the sickle. I keep getting them wrong.
>Jar nerfed
Why? I thought it was in a good spot.
you forget that if its effective at litterally anything without being unwieldy as frick to use, the devs cannot physically fricking stand it to exist.
good changes but fix the fricking spear and scopes already
>even dicord tendies are mad at AH
They dug their own grave at this point
shut up pedro no one cares you want to use raidcall like a hipster
Looks absolute ass. The best change is a speedloader for the Senator but that's it.
>lol bro theres only like 2 nerfs lmao
>Senator gets a Speedloader for faster reload from empty
May give this PoS another chance
i bet that dominator change does nothing and they changed it to feel like they changed it
>nerfing the eruptor
homieS
HAVE YOU TRIED ACTUALLY USING THE FRICKING THING
IT HAS 0 CC IN A GAME ALMOST ENTIRELY FOCUSED ON CC
WHAT THE FRICK DO YOU WANT US TO DO WITH IT
BECAUSE IM SURE AS FRICK NOT KILLING HEAVIES WITH IT
THATS WHAT THE FRICKING STRATAGEMS ARE FOR FRICK
>med/hvy armor buff
hell yeah
>Exploding Crossbow neutered
????????????????????????????????
>Quasar nerf
Knew it was coming.
>Adjudicator buff
Won't save it.
>Laser cannon buff/nerf
ok
>Punisher Plasma inconsequential changes
ok
>Blitzer buff
Holy shit.
>Eruptor nerf
Ammo? Sure it had alot of ammo. Halving feels like too much but I don't have ammo issues in this game ever. Damage falloff nerf though? Why?
>Sickle nerf
Still one of the best rifles in the game. Now you can't just overheat it every time without caring.
>Scythe buff
50dps is almost nothing lol. Also why nerf the ammo? Feels like such a useless change.
>Railgun buff
Cool, but why nerf the stagger? What?
>HMG gets a third person crosshair
THAT'S FRICKING IT? ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME?
>Diligence CS buff
Definitely gonna try this out.
>Diligence buff
13 damage? That's it.
>Redeemer recoil increase
Fair.
>Peacemaker +15 damage
Still going to use the redeemer.
>Senator gets extra damage and a speedloader on empty
LETS FRICKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>All those slight damage buffs
Dagger might unironically be useful now.
>Dominator nerf
Don't see the reason for this considering it was in a fantastic spot to begin with. It was a heavy unwieldy piece of shit that fricked up whatever you shot at.
>Guard dog rover damage nerf
Deserved.
>Guard Dog damage buff
Always prefered this one over the rover because it was cooler and teamkilled less.
>Sentry/Tesla health buff
Okay?
Once again most of the balance changes from arrowhead are one of three things "Okay" changes, "Why" changes, and "WHAT THE FRICK WERE YOU THINKING?!??!?!" changes. The best thing on this list is the senator getting a speed load and the blitzer getting a 50% firerate buff.
Also none of the egregious bugs that actively ruin the game got patched. Bravo.
Honestly all they really need to do for me is buff the HMG with 20 more rounds and higher penetration when rounds hit the same spot.
>Slightly reduced damage versus large volume bodies
the hell does this even mean? is it gonna take longer to hose down hulk heads?
It means against Factory Striders. A single Laser Cannon can melt through a Factory Strider just by itself, with little risk once you fry those machine guns.
NTA but can the Laser Cannon still reliably take out Gunships? I don't care if it takes longer.
>scopes still fricked
>dots still fricked
>spear still fricked
>literally everything fun on higher difficulties is nerfed
>everything dogshit gets a measly 10 dmg buff
this game is fricking dead and the devs deserve it 100%. How can you strike gold with such a larger playerbase at the start and tell them to frick off with every patch?
>Reduced recoil on the Adjudicator
With a recoil-reducing armor it might not actually be total shit now.
>DMRs are bad and not worth taking
>solution: increase damage by 10 (ten)
What the frick. I didn't even see that the first time I read this.
Welp, I don't feel like playing this game anymore. OP was right.
You were right.
>noticeable nerfs to the good guns
>mostly miniscule buffs to the shit guns
What were they thinking? Also LMAO at them buffing 2 of the liberators but not the penetrator.
>Sickle had it's magazines cut in half (you will still never burn through one)
>that's it
WE WON
>Superior Packing methodology fixed
PLEASE SOMONE TELL ME THAT THIS ALSO APPLIES FOR THE BACKPACK!
>it does
Supply pack might actually be worth considering now. This is an indirect buff to most hard hitting guns that have magazines.
LETS GOOOO
>shots that ricochet heavy armored enemies will now properly hit the helldiver who fired them
homie what that sounds awful
can't wait to dome myself with the amr while trying to dome a hulk with its (still) fricked up scope
Couldn't you hit yourself with ricochets already? I wonder what this actually means, like do ricochets always get returned to sender now regardless of the angle of the surface or something equally stupid?
>quasar nerf
>Spear is still didn't receive the QoL change despite the devs saying that it's resolved
they should've shipped this nerf when the Spear was fixed tbh
>spear still untouched
Excellent point and only further highlights their moronation, I literally never see anyone running it
I run it in small evacs and and protect the launches missions vs bugs because being able to kill striders quickly from any angle seems to be the deciding factor on those pretty often.
Spear good btw.
>DMR and Senator buffs
this is a horde shooter Black folk stop with the single enemy target fixations
Don't make me kneecap you
Black person what the frick is this patch? When they nerfed Railgun to being essentially useless because it dealt with heavies too easily then straight away buffed RR and EAT to 1shot charges I immediately knew they were moronic as far as balance goes but what the frick is this shit? I don’t even play solo but what is the point of making it even harder for them? 2 nerfs which are only affecting magazine size my ass, this
is spot on, like why the frick did they nerf the eruptor? it was already balanced, great dmg and aoe for a insanely slow ROF and slow reload in a game where a couple seconds can mean life or death. Also fire dmg being nerfed when it’s already a double edged sword, requires close range AND it doesn’t even work majority of the time. What are they smoking?
>eruptor
Half mags is completely negligible, if you're moving around there's always ammo laying around somewhere. The slight explosion damage drop doesn't seem to make much difference.
It’s just baffling when it’s not even been meta, I thought the point of these nerfs was so the meta wasn’t stale
It may do if the eruptor doesn't explode all the eggs in line of sight of where you shoot it.
But that was only a fringe benefit of the weapon anyway.
Lets read diver bros
>Exloding Crossbow nerf
because they're morons
>Quasar Cannon nerf
because they're morons
>Eruptor nerf
because they're morons
>Sickle nerf
because they're morons
>Scythe nerf
because they're morons
>Hulk Scorcher direct flamethrower damage reduced by 20%
Maybe they not moronic that much
>Scout strider Riders now less vulnerable to explosions
Nevermind they're giga moronic
>Gunship spawners now have a much lower cap on how many gunships they can have active at the same time
Or maybe?
>Shots that ricochet from heavy armored enemies will now properly hit the Helldiver who fired them. Trigger discipline is highly recommended.
Nope, they omega giga fricking moronic
How's Deep Rock Galactic?
>How's Deep Rock Galactic?
Comfy
Scythe got buffed
>How's Deep Rock Galactic?
It was good until the devs doubled down on a game mechanics everyone hated.
>Sickle nerf
>Scythe nerf
If you think those nerfs matter at all then you're more moronic than the arrowhead balancing team is.
>How's Deep Rock Galactic?
220 hours in and still didn't unlock all of the overclocks. No nuke and supper jump on the engineer. But I at least have the ice rounds for the double uzi on scout.
DRG has had a rough past year or two due to the last 2 seasons being bluh but S5 looks pretty damn good.
>reduced stagger on railgun
Why?
It was already pitiful stagger capabilities following the super-nerf.
Does it even stagger anything anymore?
I was starting to like the Crossbow but they fricking nerfed it
what the frick this game is truly made in sweden
It seems there is a special type of Autism among swedes that allow them to make games like this and V2 but it also cripples them during updates.
gutted my guard dog
gutted my eruptor
gutted my quasar
I need a new loadout now I guess
Same, it's like this patch was designed specifically to frick us over
>plasma punisher
>decreased damage falloff on the explosion
that's a buff, right? or am I moronic
Yeah it’s a buff
Okay this is epic
Would still have liked larger mags but I'm fully in the cope stage with the HMG so I'll take this
Oh frick yeah
>Discord note
>Buff guard dog
>Steam note
>Nerf guard dog
MAKE UP YOUR FRICKING MIND STUPID DISCORD OBSESSED DEV
total youtuber death
my first match after the patch had two people with 4 billion+ grenades lol
they "fixed" the rocket launcher quick reloading animation cancel too
>solo players got fricked
Im curious to see if the war progression will be affected or if the autism of the people that solo dive level 9 will prevail.
To be frank, i thought the game already worked this way. They probably did it for "lore and settings" reasons or some gay shit like that.
Yeah, because it's my fault game won't find me 2 more randos to play with
Frick me, right?
Like what's the fricking thought process behind this?
You don't have it set to friends only and you throw out SOS beacon, right? You can also just wait as soon as you're in loadout select for a minute since that's when you're up on the map publicly.
>They probably did it for "lore and settings" reasons or some gay shit like that.
More like "Stop playing our co-op game solo! What's that? No, you say? Okay we'll just make the solo experience less fun."
Many solo players will just go
>I like the way this sucks.jpeg
>More like "Stop playing our co-op game solo!
somone pointed out on reddit the obvious that solo level 9's might be easier then squad level 9's, so there might also be that factor to consider.
I said setting and lore because AH has a stern stance on what the game should feel like. Most of the "HELLDIVE SOLO" videos on youtube aren't a good representation of the devs "vision" and the gameplay at large.
Most people aren’t even playing solo so they are weird fricks for even caring about that.
Garbage patch. These Black folk are straight moronic. What are they “balancing” shit for just fix the frick buggy mess and stop making fun things less fun.
HOLY SHIT
but I'll miss using the dominator 🙁
Dw, they will overnerf it next patch
dominator got such a small damage decrease i doubt it matters
YES
YES YES YES YES YES YES SENATOR, MY BELOVED
>Be Liberator + Peacemaker + RRChad
>Only get buffed
>Won't even notice, because I was already pulling my weight before the changes
Metaslaves getting fricked over time and time again will never not be funny.
Using mediocre weapons isn't a personality trait dude.
B-but he’s da special whittle underdog
using mediocre weapons is a personality trait and i respect you for proving your skill by succeeding with decent weaponry
>metaslaves getting fricked over
They didn't really touch the meta from what I noticed
Quasar is meta enough
Oh yeah, I guess. Though honestly it needed it.
Now the recharge takes longer than the recoilless solo reload while still having unlimited ammo and no backpack. Before the recoilless was just completely redundant, if not the objectively worse choice.
team reload is not a viable game mechanic
that's why I said solo reload
>fun and works well = meta
You gays are so moronic
honestly i'm tempted to use the default weapon again to at least kill the small fries and help my teammate taking care of the big ones
They didn't touch AC though
>Crossbow nerfed
>Weapons like DMRs and laser weapons, minus the Queso cannon and sickle, are still shit
>Queso cannon less fun to use
>Lot of guns lost max mags count
>Made solo and two/three party matches harder thanks to increasing patrol counts
>Spear not fixed
>Damage over time still broke
>Still can't do fricking text to speech for chat only, but don't worry bro we fixed the fun glitch that lets you fall out of your ship
What the frick are these morons doing?
NO MORE SAMPLE FARMING homosexualS!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA
What makes farming samples faster on solo?
nothing
>fewer players means more enemies
Wat.
a patrol on easy is like, three bots
it still works, but it's still nothing like old farming
>Added setting in the options menu gameplay section to disable automatic climbing and vaulting while sprinting.
Holy shit, this is day one hotfix shit, but at least they did it.
>Known Issues
>Damage-over-time effects may only apply when dealt by the host. We expect to have this fixed in the next patch.
this is the most exciting thing in this patch for me
>increased quasar charge
No point in bringing it then
These types of stupid balance attempts make me less interested in the game each time
>senator sythe adjudicator marksman rifle buffs
lets fricking gooo
>reverted railgun nerf
kek
>we noticed that you folks enjoyed our game too much so we made every weapon less enjoyable
also
>we nerfed the devastator gun (BUT ONLY THE NORMAL ONES, YOU HEAR ME? NOT HEAVY DEVS, THEY ARE FINE!)
reread that post and tell me how thats a nerf
Why the frick did they blatantly lie about that. It was supposed to be buffs, but literally everything was nerfed
>Blitzer got a small RoF buff
It's all I wanted.
speaking of the blitzer does the ship upgrade that increases arc jumps increase the blitzer jumps?
No, ship upgrades don't affect non-stratagem weapons.
>Machine gun sentry only got more health.
That wasn't even the problem, man...
>railgun
>increased armor penetration
That's not the fricking problem goddamn
>30% decrease in damage to the rover
>gun version dmg increase not specified
why?
>Verification not required.
I'm guessing it's because the laser rover is just better in every way because it doesn't blow its load in like two minutes and then remains completely out on your backpack.
that said, the ship upgrade SHOULD fix that if it were working, but it's not.
But I don’t get why the don’t tell us the dmg increase, what’s the point
Actually really nice. Fixed some minor issues I never thought would be addressed. Also huge sickle buff.
Wow gee I'm sure giving the HMG a 3rd person reticle will totally make it better to use. Dinguses.
It's not bad for defense missions, if I'm being honest.
How do you make it work? I just found it did too little damage for something too inaccurate and too difficult to control with bugger all ammo on top of that. Might as well use the HMG turret, at least it can hit shit.
Set the RPMs as low as possible, 30% recoil abortion armor, and kneel/prone. You chew through bugs like wild, but I wouldn't bring it against bots.
the 3rd person reticle is the reason why the autocannon is leagues above the amr
tbf, the AMR is still hip-firable because it always hits the center of your screen
and that works for killing striders that are right in your face, but taking out hulks? ain't no way
>everything I drop with buffed or left the same
At most I'm dropping the Quasar for a Railgun now.
Carrying on like usual.
With the latest patches i am officially believing that Arrowhead is secretly a side division of Fatshark. The first dev blog was bullshit and they haven't buffed anything relevant since the start. This fricking patch just torched everything to the ground. Whats the point of releasing mediocre stuff in a paid warbond and then nerfing them to garbage level in a week?
>This game died
and yet I see a thread for it every time I come to Ganker
those aren't real Ganker threads. You can tell because the OP doesn't have the Black person word in them. Fake threads, fake posts, fake game.
After a while? I was saying it got boring after an hour when it launched and you all coped that it was peak
New update just dropped. What did they frick up this time?
>Eruptor got nerfed
FRICK THIS GAME
Why the frick cut the mag count in half?
got nerfed
That gun was almost unusable before, now is just garbage-tier junk.
>That gun was almost unusable before
Are you fricking high or just incredibly bad at the game?
>Are you fricking high or just incredibly bad at the game?
Got it confused with the one that shoots the blue bolt in an arc. I haven't unlocked the Eruptor yet.
Fair enough, carry on.
because having twelve mags was absurd, you can't even go through all that ammo in the time it takes for the resupply to recharge with how slot that bolt works
nerfing the crossbow is a big ??? however
>because having twelve mags was absurd,
On the primary weapon... the one you need to spam fast when you are surrounded. Not a good plan. If anything most guns need more bullets per clips and more clips altogether, and all the slow firing guns should be able to penetrate armor to a degree.
This is a horde shooter, there should be tons of small enemies, some medium ones and a few of heavy units, not few small enemies, lots of medium and lots of heavies. On a horde shooter you spam the fricking fire button.
Also animation reloads take fricking forever on all guns.
>one you need to spam fast when you are surrounded
not what you do with the eruptor, because it is an explosive weapon and you have a nice day if you shoot a bug in front of you
>Also animation reloads take fricking forever on all guns.
the reload on the eruptor is bad because it is a medium range anti material rifle. hectic close combat is not what it is good at
maybe take the defender if you want a good backup with good handling
Then invariably I need to bring autocannon, which considering how they ruined the Quasar might be a good idea now.
They fricked the shrapnel damaged majorly. It went from killing 4-8 in a group of enemies to 0-4. Now when you shoot the ground, the shrapnel sometimes doesn't even kill anything. So now you are killing less enemies and you have less ammo to do it with.
LETSFRICKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STILL NEEDS A BIGGER BELT AND MORE DAMAGE DAMNNIT
Anyone else keep seeing cringe audio logs on youtube? The ones people made from the Automatons perspective about how evil the Humans are?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rwi96yu9cTE
If you're in this thread, please stop it.
It's just one VA type guy that tricks peons into thinking his dropping lore
Some of the automatons recordings are nice even if they are fanfic
This is the only automaton recording I need.
>Patrol spawning has been increased when there are fewer than 4 players
HUH??????????????????? LMAO SOLO Black folk GOT FRICKED
It was too easy. This is good. Hoping to get a 1000 kill game now.
I think nerfing the ammo capacity for Eruptor by half is too much, 8 mags would've been better.
RELEASE THE AIRBURST ROCKET LAUNCHER FIXES IMMEDIATELY, NO 1 WEEK WAIT, DO IT NOW
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!11
They got rid of the infinite grenade exploit!
>Eruptor nerfs
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCK I JUST UNLOCKED IT
Ammo nerf is nothing burger.
Ammo is so fricking plentiful in this game 6 mag reserve is fine for the eruptor. I never went below 8 or 7 mags ever since it cameout unless the person who brought hellpod optimization left midgame.
The damage falloff may or may not make turn the weapon from "Strong multi-tool for both factions" to "Oh wow it's yet another bot onlygun." depending on how egregious the nerf to it was.
>Why did you stop playing?
I stopped because crypto was popping off
Over status?
It's.
Big. Bigly, in fact.
This is every horde shooter ever
There is no speed in which content could be released for a game in which you basically do the same thing over and fricking over that would actually maintain launch hype
You either like Killing Floor, Deep Rock, Vermintide, Helldivers enough to play the game at max fricking difficulty with like, 10% of the playerbase, or you fall into the remaining 90% that eventually falls off and seasonally plays it.
Which is fine
I fricking love Killing Floor. Not KF2, and I have zero interest in KF3. But the original? My fricking jam.
While I dip my toes into the hardest difficulty, I realized I genuinely just don't like working with random players in super hard modes even if they're competent
In Helldivers, I tend to hover around 7 since it's a good mix of challenge and comfiness
>Shots that ricochet from heavy armored enemies will now properly hit the Helldiver who fired them. Trigger discipline is highly recommended.
Hahahahahaha
>try to headshot a Hulk with the Autocanon
>miss by 2 centimetres and get turned into mincemeat by my own gun
Swedes are Black folk
So it it a guaranteed thing that'll happen or it just RNG if the ricochet actually hits you
genuinely seems like an unfun mechanic
>RL-77 Airburst Rocket Launcher
>[list]
Even the changelog is buggy!
>Scorcher untouched
ScorcherGODS, we won
genuinely surprised that and the autocannon didnt get nerfed into the dirt when the fricking punisher plasma and crossbow caught some nerfs
Feels good being a botchad who exclusively runs those weapons, but tht’s whats most baffling about this patch, guns that weren’t even in great positions were nerfed. Legit what the frick are they thinking?
>punisher plasma and crossbow caught some nerfs
This is what I don't fricking get. The crossbow is hot fricking garbage and the plasma's only value is spamming.
>EXPLOSIVE crossbow
>make it worse against multiple targets
I used it once before ditching it and have never seen a single other person use it. But sure nerf it you dumb swedes
>genuinely surprised that and the autocannon didnt get nerfed
It's literally the only viable support weapon for bots and im not hyperbolic in any way shape or form
what is the alternative? Qasar and EAT?
>Qasar and EAT?
Yes. Also the RR is good if you can get team reloads (lmao). Here’s hoping they don’t nerf the AC, it would be “interesting” if they did though as they said themselves they think it’s a good example of a balanced weapon
AMR.
It's just a lower recoil autocannon that allows running reload.
So then you use ammo backpack and scorcher and you're the gorilla dick daddy.
>genuinely surprised that and the autocannon didnt get nerfed
Have faith, the swedish moronation knows no limits, one thing is clear though, the moment the autocannon is nerfed is game over for this game.
I think they actually said they considered the autocannon perfectly balanced a while back. It's strong, but has it's drawbacks like taking up a backpack slot and requiring some degree of skill to use.
I'm not really expecting them to do anything to it. Everything else lives in fear of the nerf stick. This comes from someone who doesn't regularly use it.
>Scout strider Riders now less vulnerable to explosions
Breh.
True, I forgot bout that. Still it’s only one enemy and they’re not even the hardest bot to deal with, haven’t played it yet but guess we’ll see how big the difference is
>Still it’s only one enemy and they’re not even the hardest bot to deal with
they are the litmus test for support weapon effectiveness. If the autocannon can no longer on shot them the change will be cancer.
If it 2 shots them it’s ok, any more and they’ve fricked up (they already have but even more)
This better not make the autocannon stop oneshotting them or I'll be very upset.
You barely used it on them if you only ever 1 shot them. It can rarely take up to 3 shots to kill one.
They must have forgot that it exists. Or maybe they're waiting for the next warbond to release
You'd expect it to be fricking GOOD after spending 1100+ medals to unlock it.
Scorcher best DMR.
Datamines? New warbond stuff should be in the patch right?
Serious question guys, what the frick is wrong with Swedish people?
I don't really know but I hate myself for playing this and V2
forsen
>playing 5 minutes ago
>whole squad is getting gang raped by 6 laggy bot gunships
>comment "this game's a little too janky for flying shit in it. really doesn't work well enough for this type of enemy to function"
>game immediately crashes for everyone and kicks the entire party back to lobby
we kek'd
>Senator
>Speedloader added when reloading on an empty cylinder–speeds up reload on empty considerably
It's fricking over for the enemies of democracy
how hard could it possibly be to just move the fricking dot slightly down
just use third person x-hair now since they've enabled it
>slightly smaller explosion radius
bros the crossbow has NO explosion radius now what the shit
pretty fun if you just play a couple games a week with friends, can't imagine grinding it out in pugs though.
i get why they don't want primary weapons to be too strong and encourage you to use your stratagems but man
I genuinely don't give a shit about unlocking any other primaries when 80% of them seem like garbage
>i get why they don't want primary weapons to be too strong and encourage you to use your stratagems but man
That is bollocks, the stratagem have huge cooldowns, most of the time you kill members of your squad and the game is too frantic for any kind of strategic thinking when shit hits the fan at higher difficulties.
Just tried the scythe, I really want to like it but it still sucks. HMG still bad. Adjudicator still bad.
>base Liberator and pistol get buffed
Pretty comfy.
Dominator is still king though, I mained it before it was buffed and it still has higher damage than that.
The Sickle is great because it has great stagger for a weapon its size.
Scythe staggers about as much as a polite suggestion.
>This game died unceremoniously. It just got so boring and repetitive after a while
YET AGAIN, every time I start using a different primary, they push me to use the scorcher with nerfs.
>might have to go back to AC meta
don't get me wrong the weapon is great and all but I have tons of fun using the Laser Cannon and the Stalwart on Helldives
undocumented change: the revolver now has a proper dot on its "sight"
its still ugly though
>all these nerfs for weapons that didn’t even need it when we haven’t even played against the cancer that is illuminates yet
Still seems like the funnest period was immediately after launch before they’d gotten the massive streamer popularity and did any balance changes, nothing they’ve added since then has topped that part of the game’s life cycle for me. Glad I jumped on it after seeing a webm a couple days after launch. That said I won’t be a complete doomerhomosexual, maybe they’ll pull their thumbs out, I hope they do, the core of the game is so much fun
What the frick are you talking about. It was fun because everyone were dipshits that had no idea what was going on. After the newbie honeymoon faze ended it was blatantly obvious that the game's balancing state was godawful when everyone and their mom was running the same exact loadout every single game.
Always Railgun Breaker Personal Shield x4 every game.
>implying the balancing is any better
lol
Yes it is.
After giving it some more thought I’ll admit I was wrong, the meta itself is more varied, but their balancing is still moronic. Immediately after they nerfed the RG for taking down heavies too easily they buffed the EAT and RR to 1shot chargers, and this latest balance patch is equally nonsensical
But also, despite the meta being more varied it’s also more simplified, now instead of shooting chargers legs twice and then unloading primary into it you just 1shot their head
Yeah, the game is in a much better place balance wise than it was back then but holy fricking shit the amount of moronic changes they keep doing for seemingly no reason. They always go way too fricking far with the nerfs and are way too sparse with the buffs.
>Average arrowhead nerf
>"We felt like this gun was a tad bit too strong so we cut it's damage in half and made it only light piercing."
>Average arrowhead buff
>"Players complained about this weapon doing no damage so we gave it 5 more damage."
Wait, they only nerfed the machinegun guard dog and not the laser one? BWL.
They nerfed the laser rover’s dmg by 30% and buffed the machine gun’s dmg (by how much we don’t know lol)
That's weird, only the machinegun one is mentioned in the changelog
>AX/AR-23 Guard Dog
>Decreased damage by 30%
The Steam patch notes are wrong, the Discord ones are right.
They can't even get their official release notes right what the frick.
I’m going off the discord patch notes, would be hilarious if in the game it was the exact opposite
discord trannies updated the post
BLITZER CHADS WE WILL RISE
>This game died unceremoniously. It just got so boring and repetitive after a while
Wow, it's almost like all horde shooters end this way, is this the Left 4 Dead for zoomers?
cool, they fixed the ballistic shield breaking when you use a stim
its still broken if you use an emote
God I hate this stupid homosexual so much.
I loved that crossbow and they fricking neutered it. You can fire right next to something's feet and it won't hit at all. It HAS to be bugged, this shit is not "slightly."
I honesltly feel bad, this weapon is so cool but felt like shit already and they gutted it.
the Adjudicator is good now!
im not a scorcher user, but shooting the front faceplate of a scout strider can take 4-6 shots
ive had one tank a grenade pistol to the faceplate too
Laser guard dog deserved a nerf? It wasn't that good to begin with, very FF prone and had weird targeting priorities
Kills team mates more slowly so it's actually a buff
>Laser guard dog wasn't even that good.
Oh is this the narrative we're going with now?
Laser dog is excellent at making you a liability
You're over-exaggerating how team-kill happy the guard rover is, I've died to laser guard dogs like 3 times in my entire 200 hours and they're fricking everywhere.
neat
>they fixed the grenade pistol ammo on spawn
I will miss the double tap
>Crossbow sucks ass and nobody uses it
>LET'S FRICKING NERF IT!
...
>Slightly smaller explosion
frick off
>Increased stagger
it already had a good amount.
>Decreased number of maximum mags from 12 to 8
for frick sake why lower the size absolute idiots
>Increased number of magazines received from resupply from 6 to 8
frick worthless
>Slight reduction in ergonomics
who asked?
>Muzzle velocity increased
crickets look how they frick it even more
Skill issue
AMR SCOPE STILL NOT FIXED
skill issue
>get on to try the adjudicator
>immediately log off
The lazer guard dog seems the same to me, but I didn't use it much. Any lazer guard dog users want to weigh in?
If anything it's inaccurate
I'll buy it when they nix their dogshit anti-cheat
tried the crossbow, it's literally a worse scorcher now
sweden lmao
When the frick are those moronic swedeBlack folk gonna add the japanese voiceover option? So fricking moronic to have it region locked I want my Tokyo trooper to sound authentic.
I read somewhere that the studio that did the JP voices have a very strict requirement that they're only available in japan. Typical jap autism so no chance of it happening
Fricking bullshit, a game about killing giant bugs and NO JAPANESE?! The american helldiver voices are fricking terrible because the guys sound like pussies and the girls are like your typical annoying e-girl redditor. I've been surviving with the french voice pack but I really wanted the japanese one...
>I've been surviving with the french voice pack
What about german?
German one also sucks, it's the soft sounding modern german, guys also sound like pussies, girls sound like robots. French is the best sounding one so far, if you like Wakfu the french voice pack is the best one so far.
I also recommend German
Democracy Officer is excellent
Tried it, didn't like it everyone just sounds like a pussy because it's shitty modern german not the chad 20th century german like in my ww2 games. French voice pack seems like the best one so far they even say liberty and democracy in it.
>anime Eagle-1 will nwver be heard by western pigs
Tragic.
>It just got so boring and repetitive after a while
It's a co-op exclusive game, what the frick are you talking about moron? You need immersive/highly interactive NPCs or a sandbox to spend hundreds of hours on a game that allows you to play it alone or alone with the choice of playing with others if you want. Otherwise you're stuck with a <100 game.
>Fire the Railgun at an oncoming Annihilator Tank, head on
>It explodes
wtf railgun is good now?
Railgun is back to it's original state now pretty much. 100% worth taking again
It takes 4 unsafe shots to break a charger's leg armor, so more like 50%. Realistically it would be less because safe mode sucks and unsafe is better.
How does it work against vehicles like tanks and airships now?
Can one shot tanks from the front on unsafe (inconsistent I think it's based on angle)
One shots Hulks to the eyeplate on safe
Shoot gunships and strider fabricators next
>bud always takes the quasar and las rover
Lmao eat shit terry, time to find another crutch.
>Eruptor takes an extra shot to kill striders now
>Scorcher can STILL consistently oneshot them.
I love how the scorcher and autocannon have been much stronger than everything else they've nerfed from the very begining and yet they are untouched and even stated to be a fricking standard for balancing.
I fricking love this game but holy fricking shit I'm sick of all the alternatives (that aren't even AS good) to the AC and Scorcher/Sickle get nerfed to not really being worth taking over said scorcher/sickle/ac while guns like the DMRs get buffed 3 seperate times and are STILL SHIT. All in all I'd still probably play if it weren't FOR THE FRICKING FACT THAT THEY CAN'T FRICKING FIX THE FRICKING BUGS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I bought it yesterday, should I refund?
No it's great. People b***h and moan (me included) about the devs absolute fricking DISASTROUS balancing decisions but the game's balancing is still more healthier/varied/fun than it was from launch.
It's just every single time the devs seem to drop the ball in terms of buffs/nerfs.
I'm not frustrated with helldivers, I'm frustrated with Arrowhead.
Is there a dev out there that could not frick up the balancing?
Is it even worth taking over the alternatives?
Quasar reloads by itself giving you the time to shoot or call eagle-chan at least.
It's arguably* more reliable, since it only does direct hits, whether hitting armor at an angle or not. And against distant targets it can burst a little faster if not under any threat. It also just shoots when you pull the trigger, no charge up to compensate for.
I think it also technically does more damage, but not at any significant break points, though the direct hit. And while not viable to have some else wear your backpack, if TWO people are running it (or more), you CAN pull off some crazy shenanigans with team reloads. My squad has clutched shit we would have absolutely failed against when running more than one recoilless and backpack dumping elites. Granted that was back when 20+ would spawn at once but still...
That also applies to the autocannon but that's just a perfect weapon already so... yeah.
>Is there a dev out there that could not frick up the balancing?
Of course no dev is perfect with balancing but honestly at this fricking point I'd be willing to throw my hat in with fricking blizzard tier balancing at this point.
I've never seen a dev like arrowhead where they see a weapon that is all and all completely balanced and go "Yeah this needs to get nerfed."
The dominator nerf is the perfect example of this because the dominator was fine. I saw it used regularly but not excessively. I used it myself on occasion and it was fun and felt good to use while not being excessive and having drawbacks that you need to play around.
Same with the eruptor. Felt good to use, did it's role well, had glaring downsides to play around.
Yet for SOME reason the fricking moron dipshit at arrowhead decided to change the dominator and eruptor "just cuz".
Fricking christ it's genuinely tiring seeing someone take something that doesn't need to be changed and trying to fix it.
I'm growing burnt out not because of the game but because the devs think the fricking crossbow needed to be nerfed for some reason.
>playtest at diff 5
>"holy shit this thing is way too strong, we need to nerf it"
Yep, you summarized it 100% accurately, the devs don't play their own game and listen to morons on reddit/discord.
>playtest at diff 5
As if. They make decisions based on nothing but usage metrics.
>As if. They make decisions based on nothing but usage metrics.
Correct, they do not play their own game, they're too busy you see.
The crossbow was dogshit and outclassed by the eruptor in every way why the frick would they nerf it? If anything it needed to be improved even more to be usable.
Fires twice as fast as Eruptor and probably faster reload
It's for clearing out lighter enemies waves with casual spam and soaking the field.
It's range is shit, explosion radius is shit, reload time is awful and it has a frick you projectile dropoff. Eruptor shits all over that thing able to one shot Deveststors, berserkers, brood commanders and spewers.
>It's for clearing out lighter enemies waves with casual spam and soaking the field.
The other enemies do not disappear from the map because a given gun is good against a certain type of enemy you know?
It is like when people say take cover to shoot bots: Still get shoot from behind, from the sides, ragdolled several times, and finally once managed to take cover, peek out and get one shooted by devastator.
Arrowhead probably has that one "trust me bros" guy who needlessly wants to change everything everytime a big patch comes out because "I tell you it's gonna be OP". And the morons listen to him.
I haven't kept up with the patch notes this week, did they really nerf the crossbow? And why?
No idea. But I'm using the punisher plasma atm as a substitute for "primary slot grenade launcher" that the crossbow filled.
>And why?
Swedes don't play their own game.
>did they really nerf the crossbow?
Yes. It has a smaller blast radius, less ammo, and slower aim speed now.
>And why?
Dunno lol. Not sure AH know either.
See pic rel. They apparently want it to be a medium enemy killing weapon instead of a trash clearer. Which is yet more stupidity on the same level as the "Slugger is too good at sniping" bullshit from last patch. Especially since the Dominator and Scorcher fill that exact same role already, and do it much better.
It takes like half a mag to kill a single devastator lol
Lmao what the frick? It's absolutely terrible at that role though, what is wrong with these morons
Like 90% of modern devs, they play their games on easy/normal difficulties and do not set foot anywhere near hard/harder/hardest/extreme difficulties.
I don't doubt for a minute that the devs of HD2 play their game at difficulty 6, maybe 7 for bugs, and 2-3 for bots. They probably do some kind of dev-cheat mode for tuning higher difficulties where they're invincible.
I du no why this particular story is so popular? Do we have anything to back that up?
I think they had a dev stream a while back and they failed a level 5 mission.
lmao
Damn
So there go the chances that they ever add difficulties beyond 9.
It's a shame that the Devs of a game that pride themselves in "making their game hard" can't actually play on the hardest difficulty and that people who actually enjoy harder difficulties won't get more challenges
it's funny because Helldivers 1 had like 15 levels of difficulty. The one we're on now used to be considered what was 'medium' difficulty.
The game does on fact feel like there should be 15 levels of difficulty.
Originally it was only 12 difficulties, with Helldive being 12. It wasn't until a few years after launch did they add 13-15.
>the Black person in charge of balancing doesn’t know how everything works
what the actual frick is this
enjoy your crossbow nerf :^) :^) :^) :^)
It's a popular story becaues it's the reality of most dev companies.
See literally any competitive online game. Assume a team of 50, and a standard ranking system of bronze through grand masters.
Of those 50 team members, 5-6 will be at the platinum range of skill, 1-2 will be in the master/grand master range of skill, and the other ~40 will be in the bronze/silver range of skill.
There is absolutely nothing the suggest otherwise with the HD2 team, and the dude that is in charge of balance is particularly suspect, as he doesn't even know the games basic mechanics and is legitimately impressed when people clear diff 5 bugs at level 20+.
>There is absolutely nothing the suggest otherwise with the HD2 team, and the dude that is in charge of balance is particularly suspect, as he doesn't even know the games basic mechanics and is legitimately impressed when people clear diff 5 bugs at level 20+.
This, combined with the CEO knowing jack shot about the actual game, has me convinced its a completely different dev team wearing the skin of Arrowhead.
Kinda like nu-Obsidian.
I think some devs do, but there's no way all of them do.
There's a stream with a youtuber somewhere where they were getting raped on Diff 6. During which this guy
said "lmao I didn't know you could break charger armor on legs, that's unintended". homie, clearly someone intended it, it's just they don't play the game enough to know who is doing or adding what.
>Senator dmg and reload buff so minor that it’s still not worth using over the REDEEMer
great…
lol is that legit? if so that’s actually embarrassing levels of moronation. you’d think “play the game to see how it works/feels” would be one of the first priorities in game dev
>"lmao I didn't know you could break charger armor on legs, that's unintended"
This sounds like there's a SEVERE lack of communication between developers. Like holy shit. Or everything's developed in a vacuum. Probably both.
muhhhh realism, probably
no, they didn't know the legs were vulnerable at all lol
Lowered ammo and upped the velocity. Basically made it more accurate + longer range with more stagger, but llsmaller explosion and less ammo. Only read the patch notes, though.
Every major nerf has made the overall game better. QQ harder.
Wrong. For example if they didn’t nerf the breaker at the same time they buffed other primaries some people would still use breaker and others would use the newly buffed primaries. Instead every dropped the breaker because they made it feel shit and moved on to other weapons that felt good due to buffs.
I still use the Breaker for bugs. It's just too good
That’s good, but the fact remains they made it feel worse on the basis that too many people used it and made it so very few people use it. How is that good design for a co-op pve game? There’s no need for an every weapon having its moment in the sun type of situation like tons of competitive pvp games have for their character balancing.
Breaker got a slight recoil nerf and a few shots less. That's it. The reality is, despite the fact that people claim to "totally like the OP weapons, for real," they all can't seem to drop the thing fast enough for greener grass every single balance patch that comes out, and they all seem to circle around the next OP-in-class weapon every single time. Crazy, right?
My point is it was never OP it just felt good to use and they should have left it alone. They made it less fun to play by so people switched to more fun primaries. They did the exact same thing to the slugger too so it’s not they are doing it by accident.
Not that anon, but it had over 100% more damage per mag and overall damage than second best primary. The fact that you dont see it was overshadowing all other primaries is (you) being fricking stupid, not the devs.
Yes it was overshadowing others because the devs made the other ones so shitty to begin with. So buffing other guns and nerfing the one gun that felt good at the same time is stupid. They should have just buffed the other guns up to see how player choices evolved.
>Just buff ~20 weapons instead of nerfing one lmao
And then you'd complain about gun #7 and gun #19 being too op, and others need to be buffed to their level. Rinse and repeat. Oh and weapon #5 is still too weak WTF ARROWHEAD
Just release 20 bad weapons and 1 good one lmao. See how that works dumbass?
It literally was the only weapon anyone used, specifically because it was slightly OP. Less ammo and manual recoil adjustment was all it needed to get the crutch hoppers off the thing forever, which is hilarious. Railgun went through the same shit, but THAT not bumped down the tier list by the Quasar being a better railgun before also getting hit with a nerf. Now the railgun seems perfect in it's current form.
>I'd be willing to throw my hat in with fricking blizzard tier balancing at this point.
Fun fact about Blizzard - their balance philosophy for Overwatch 2 was to balance around accessibility, not power.
Best example of this was Tracer had a damage falloff bug where she was doing full damage regardless of how far away from the target you were. As a result she was an absolute monster to play against. But also as a result, new players that had never played Tracer heard she was good and started playing her. So Blizzard didn't want to "nerf" Tracer (which is really just fixing a bug), because it would cause new players that just picked up Tracer to stop playing her and potentially stop playing the game.
So instead they fixed the falloff bug, and globally raised her DPS.
At no point was it ever intended to buff Tracer, but due to a bug being pushed to live and the patch cycle being so slow, they were "forced" to keep the buff or make a change to her to make her feel just as strong.
That was their balance philosophy starting from about 2020. It's not balance based on skill or balance based on the pros and meta. It's literally balanced around what will keep players engaged the most. Which is a fricking awful way of balancing a competitive multiplayer game.
>nu-blizzard
they also nerfed her ass which is why the actual zoomzooms played as her
>Blizzard balancing
Nothing is worse than Blizzard's moronation.
>Which is a fricking awful way of balancing a competitive multiplayer game.
Well Heldivers 2 is not a competitive game yet the stupid devs treat it like one.
Quasar for bodyshot spam and dropship memes. RR for consistent headshotting.
>It just got so boring and repetitive after a while
I have fun. Nothing matters.
So does the dagger and scythe still suck? 50 extra damage doesn't seem worth a damn if the tick rate is still shit...
That seems like a ton of extra damage over time. Not bad for a laser beam with unlimited ammo.
it's ultimately kinda shit, but ballistic shield + dagger is a cute way to absolutely frick heavy devastators now.
Already wen't back to Darktide
>Played Darktide at release
>"This is just shameful"
>Drop it for half a year before trying again
>Nothing is better
>Drop again
>See new "Overhaul"
>Nothing looks better
Frick Darktide and frick Fatshark
>Darktide
Who asked
>Redditdivers shills all over Ganker
Go to >>>/vg/ already
Stop shitting in the streets and eating cow shit rajeesh.
DO NOT REDEEM THE HELLDIVERS SAAR. FOTM SLOP SAAR
I can't believe Microsoft pays jeets to troll post against their competition online.
does the arc thrower still stagger hulks with the new stagger resistance they have?
Idk, but this was probably to prevent them being stunlocked with non penetrating punisher shots to the face yes you could stunlock a hulk with the punisher
>yeah wenerfed the laser cannon's damage against larger enemies because it's supposed to be a crowd clearing weapon
The thought process of a Swede is an enigma
what's the metagay loadout for bots now
Spear is shit, Air burst rocket is shit and both are broken
Air burst launcher is mega shit. Even when it works it can’t kill for shit despite the huge explosion.
>Thermite untouched
Fricking Swedes.
Even when playing solo (i.e. without the DoT bug), those are complete dogshit.
why did they just nerf everything into the ground
>why did they just nerf everything into the ground
They want you to hate the game ASAP. They have this stupid mentality where they think the over the top excessive player deaths are fun, so the more the better, also they think that because military realism gave the game a distinct flair they have to cram as much realism as possible forgetting people play games for fun.
>Raising flag missions are on high difficulties now
>That sweet Super Earth Anthem while we wait for the flag
Overall still a GOTY
flag missions are on high difficulties now
I'm convinced there was some glitch that stopped it from appearing in later missions. It was a staple of HD1 and they put effort into it for HD2 just for it only be in diff 1? With how many bugs and broken shit is int his game, it had to have been a bug with these incompetent devs. They don't get a benefit of the doubt otherwise at this point.
>game is literally unplayable for 2 weeks near launch
>OH MY SCIENCE GEOFF GIVE IT GAME OF THE YEAR FROM YOUR CONTROLLED DOG AND PONY SHOW THAT IS MORE STAGED THAN THE OSCARS
I can only hope you're paid.
Speak English and not redditanese moron
>perfectly readable english
>OMG SPEAK ENGLISH
esl moment
>Talking about ponies and oscars on a helldivers thread.
I dont know redditanese moron
a dog and pony show is what you called something staged like the oscars and game awards you fricking moronic ESL
I quite like the new crossbow. Fires further, more accurately, and most importantly isn't a liability anymore in close quarters or when near teammates. I'm not teamkilling people anymore, which is super nice.
Also the "large surfaces" mentioned for the laser cannon's nerf include gunship engines. It takes longer to down one now using it, but it still works. No longer is it a one-man gunship counter anymore.
>No longer is it a one-man gunship counter anymore.
How many players is the correct number of players that should focus their attention on gunships when at difficulties 7+ frantically running around the map trying to find your support weapon that is on cooldown while being chased by a column of devastators + hulk in the middle of a heavy thich fog or firestorm?
I'm very curious.
The answer is "as many as possible". Gunships are high-priority targets and the entire team should focus on obliterating the frickers the moment you can. I did see someone throw down an orbital laser at a gunship facility, which didn't destroy it, but did instantly down the three gunships that spawned from the facility as we got close. So that was nice.
drop your buddy a shield, have a shield buddy
ASSUME THE PHALANX
BECOME LITERALLY INVINCIBLE
seems like a good way to lose your ammo backpack, like the autocannon user in that pic seems to have
whats the best tool for killing bile titans now?
>whats the best tool for killing bile titans now?
Choose:
Shitter detected
Skill issue
It works on my computer
>whats the best tool for killing bile titans now?
Constantly running around waiting for stratagems to cool down.
Orbital Rail Cannon and a variety of Eagles.
Spam eagles and orbitals on them. But to be honest, all the bigger "super enemies" need a couple of more weakspots. Right now it truly feels like you're just running and fricking around waiting for stratagem cooldowns when dealing with them.
it's still railcannon and EATs, nothing changed
>it's still railcannon and EATs, nothing changed
Devs want to force co-ordinated teamplay on a game where co-ordinated teamplay requires 4 autistic people to play with insane number of units fast surrounding you in most scenarios at higher difficulties with levels of frantic above human abilities where everybody is making mistakes like arming a barrage, being shot and the barrage falling at their feet while being flanked by dozens of ever spawning enemy units.
Unironically the spear despite the bugged lock on. If Bile Titans are unironically your biggest problem get the spear and use the Railgun Orbital Strike on Chargers
Quasar killed all chargers
Eruptor killed all armored bugs
guard dog killed everything else
The only thing left was bile titan and he was easily dealt with with orbital railcannon and quasar to the face. With all those 3 options nerfed now my loadout has to completely change.
New loadout suggestion
>Spear
>Breaker
>Railcannon
>Laser
5 seconds won't make a huge difference, it's just going to make it more tedious. Now it'll take what, 30 seconds instead of 20 to 2-shot one. I am sure these fricking meatball morons are looking to buff bile titans though because having to run around like a headless chicken is part of the game.
They should realize it's dissuading people from even spending on supercredits. I'd be close to 1000 if I just buy the 375 pack, but I'm not bothering when the last pack was fricking trash except for the eruptor (lmao whoopsie), and so far the only pack that gave me anything worthwhile was cutting edge for stun grenades.
Because god knows whatever the next pack is, they'll either nerf it or it'll suck on release.
>AP/FMJ/HP
They do a wiener UP JOB conveying which is which weapon wise, and there's all this esoteric tacticool bullshit they're pursuing as if it's arma and then they throw 27 bile titans at you and tell you stratagems are your primary weapon. This isn't the kind of game where I'm going to need to decide on Hollow point or armor-piercing when you're throwing 10 heavily armored enemies and 12 fleshy-vulnerable-to-HP enemies at me at the same time.
If they had set out to make this a tacticool arma game fine, I'd have liked it. I like using the heavy machine gun and suppressive firing in games. But those games don't field ~1000 enemies in a mission.
>games like monster hunter, deep rock, etc scale enemies to the number of players so 2 guys doesnt have to deal with what 4 deal with or whtaver
>lets do that but the COMPLETE opposite of what its supposed to achieve
why??????
>monster hunter
it has the worst scaling ever, either its MP scaling or solo scaling, no inbetween
so if you play duo you are gimping yourself massively
what are you talking about? the game has scaling for 1, duo and full squad or 3 hunters (its weird it doenst have proper scaling for 3)
I only played world and it's been years
yeah thats how it works in world, youre only gimped if you play in a trio squad
Why is it that every game declares is dead is something I can readily play right now?
People think you need 500k people to find people to queue with in a 4 player co-op game. You could and still can find matches on Vermintide and its around 2-5k
People don’t know what dead means, hd2 needs maybe 10k people max and it will be just the same as 200k people. Hell I played a mmo called wayfinder that legit has 100 players on at a time and I still find people to play with in less than a minute
When is the next warbond coming out? I bet that correlates to why they nerfed the crossbow.
it's joever
the game is so fricking buggy and busted, its obvious this was supposed to be an early access game they scrooged out.
>Faster spawns with fewer players
For what reason?
If you wanted to nerf sample farmers you just nerf samples based on how many players on the map.
Fricking moronic devs...
>If you wanted to nerf sample farmers
ahh, that's why the did it. kek didn't even think about that. How spiteful.
They're trying to force people to play together and stamp out the solo exploits.
Problem is, crashes are still rampant and the match making is still busted to shit so you can't even replace people when they're lost. They're punishing player who try to stick it out for SOMEONE ELSE leaving, be it voluntary or not.
Not that it's at all surprising at this point, but they don't know what the frick they're doing. When this game does finally die, it's won't be because player simply lost interest, it'll be because the devs killed it with their dumbass, stubborn unwillingness to deviate at all from "The Vison".
Thing is even with the buff to spawns you should still be fine with a scout set unless you’re shit. You can be right next to bugs and not trigger them
>based on how many players on the map.
And how does that work when guys are repeatedly leaving and joining the game?
With how buggy this game is, I would expect it will bug out and keep the increased spawn rate even when you get back up to 4 people
>Game places a detector tower in between a gunship facility and a distant strategem jammer
>The jammer's range doesn't extend to the detector tower, but the gunship facility does
>Spawn in with three helldivers, game decides to dump patrols and dropships on us
>Can't call down a hellbomb because of the gunships
>Get pushed back all the way to the other side of the map TWICE before I can work my way back and take out the detector tower
>Team is absolutely bewildered by the sheer amount of enemies
>Finally work our way around and take out the rest of the bases and objectives
>Get to extraction
>This happens
Yea that happened to me and you should just give up some objectives like that, I legit ran away from the team after we lost like 10 lives to it. Some stuff you just can’t win
>nerfed the crossbow
What the frick, no one even used this thing before, what justified this?
New warbond coming out soon. Can't have you being happy with what you got. Especially since you probably grinded out super credits and didn't pay real money for these current warbonds, and we can't errr I mean Arrowhead can't be having that!
>Can't have you being happy with what you got
But nobody was happy with what they got already!
Do not question "The Vison" citizen. No matter how poorly executed or hypocritical it is. Just fill out your survey, buy more super credits and keep diving.
>SMGs have less range than rifles due to higher drag
Not how it works
>except for the longer barrel that gives the pump a tighter spread
Of course no-guns euro swedes don't know SHIT about the guns they are designing in game, yet they show pride in the ignorance. Barrel length has nothing to do with a spread. It has to do with the "choke" on the end of the shotgun barrel, with most modern shotguns have interchangable choke tube inserts.
Can someone please send this picture to the devs?
For a bunch of no-guns Euros the ACs animations are pretty fricking good
Stripper-clip fed togglelock looks fricking sexy
Oh wow they understand how a stripper clip works, technology that is well over 100 years old now!
Come on, anon. That's like the easiest thing for a no-guns euro to understand since they probably only can own bolt action ww2 and older rifles and the AC operates the same way just with a toggle action.
Sweden has conscription so a bunch of devs have actually served in the military
Scandinavian conscripts are a joke.
Sure but it means they at least know how to work a weapon even if they don't know the principles behind them, hence why the animations looks great
Yet they don't understand that shotgun barrel length has nothing to do with spread, and no one on the team corrected him. As I said, they are a joke.
Yeah the balancing team is pants on head moronic
>a bunch of devs have actually served in the military
They why are they so fricking ignorant about how guns work?!
I blame that on the balancing team. Aesthetically the weapons are great
This. The Breaker got it's magazine model changed to better reflect the mag size when it got nerfed.
they're swedes
also some of them are on the autistic spectrum of "this has to fit MY unrealistic sci-fi headcanon" and some are on the lesser autistic spectrum of "This has to fit MY fantasy sci-fi headcanon"
This is why the nerfed the railgun to shit to where it can't even crack armor and then added Better Railgun with the Quasar cannon. Because the autist in charge of weapon balancing decided that a high-penetration anti-armor fantasy rifle would actually do jack shit for damage if it were real. While the autist in charge of weapon creation just wants big lasers that go PEW PEW PEW PEW.
Clearly, the autist in charge of weapon creation is fricking right, but he doesn't do weapon balancing, only one guy does balancing in general, so he's the one that gets to decide stupid shit like "Penetrator weapons that do medium penetration do very little damage but the same weapons that fire the same cartridges do more damage with the same penetration because they're FMJ."
Probably because not all of the devs are from Sweden.
this
>Game takes place in the super future
>Gun must work like they did in the 16th century
Don't the swedes have mandatory military service or some shit? How can they be so bad at this?
>using "realism" as a justification for game balance in your coop sci fi game about bug and bot stomping
loving every laugh
AH are absolutely obsessed with stagger. They seem to consider it more valuable than anything else, so nerfing everything else about the crossbow to give it a bit more stagger seems like the exact kind of crap they'd pull.
The last time a weapon got nerfed unexpectedly, it got rebuffed by a ship module. We'll just have to wait and see.
There should be a ship upgrade that gives you better intel on the map select where you are dropping for where things like that are.
Also it seems near impossible to land without hitting enemies in HD2 even if I choose a location that isn't red on the map. In HD1 you could at least land and get a second to breath even on high difficulties if you chose a secluded place to start.
>mfw HMG + supply pack combo (& super packing methodology) works wonders against everyone
sorry AMR'ers
the HMG already got max reserve mags without the super packing upgrade, unless you mean the backpack gets it too
>unless you mean the backpack gets it too
it works on the backpack too
the HMG isn't the best combo with the new pack tho, it's the grenade launcher unfortunately. I played a level 3 bug mission to test out what you asked and i had
>concussive
>pistol
>HMG
>impact
>airstrike
>laser
>supply pack
and medium armor with recoil reduction
unfortunately you don't put out enough damage to effectively take out swarms and once your 75 rounds go out you don't have enough breathing room to reload.
but this was one solo mission with not the best primary so it's to early to tell. I imagine with the new changes to the plasma lobber shotgun the build could work better.
disregard everything in this post im wrong
the machine gun still only gets 1 round from the backpack
frick
so true saar. this is indeed p2w fotm slop
>If you point out the egregious monetization israelitery that would make Bobby Kotik blush you're a pajeet
Okay Mr. Goldberg, I will now surely buy some Supercredits™ to get some cool Warbonds™ so I can join my fellow Helldivers® in their quest to spread democracy©
>pff, only 200 hours of enjoyment? what a shit game
you people
Known Issues
Scopes on some weapons such as the Anti-Materiel Rifle are slightly misaligned.
kek
moronic bugs, questionable gameplay and unlocking "meta" primaries does that.
If they fix up "patrols" to make sense, have enemies that aren't blind as shit and stop making everyone carry the same explosive trait medium pen primaries, I might reconsider trying the game again.
If you played longer than 2 hours you would have seen plenty of biomes. we've seen perma night Vietnam jungles, rocky ice worlds, temperate worlds, grassy mountains, burning hellscapes with fire tornadoes, foggy planets, rainy planets, planets with lots of water areas, etc.
Would you still use the scorcher?
I haven’t played in about 2 weeks, have they made any major changes to the game since then?
I got kind of bored after reaching level 46.
So which warbond is the best option now?
the second. stuns are amazing and the sickle is still the best primary
stun grenades are the best grenades by far but the guns suck on the high tech warbond. The newest explosive warbond is now worthless.
Sickle didn't even get a real nerf, so it's still Electronic Playground.
yeah but I want the senator
though they still haven't really nerfed SC farming so you could just spend ~3 hours and get both
Sickle is just slightly better Liberator. If you arent using Liberator consistently, you wont find that much use for Sickle.
Senator just got speedloader, fixing the only major issue it had (slow as frick reload). Getting Senator opens new effective loadouts as you can have armor-piercing med-sized secondary weapon.
Pick whichever you prefer, but in my opinion Senators gives more loadout flexibility and thus more fun.
I JUST started using the dominator
It's still far better than it used to be. Damage per shot only used to be 200 and it had no stagger. I don't really know why they felt the need to shave 25 damage back off of it but it's still solid.
I don't think the 25 damage nerf actually changed any breakpoints. Still kills everything in the same number of shots as before
Then what's the point? I really liked it because it got rid of those chainsaw bots so well, I'm afraid the damage nerf will be really noticeable against those
I have no clue honestly.
pve games always get boring fast unless you can make combos, lets you experiment, or has lots of story segments to keep things 'fresh', cosmetics can only do so much.
The experimentation would be good if the devs weren't moronicly fraid of anything in the game ever being effective.
>"Playing Rock, Paper, Scissors in front of the ship no longer causes player to fall out into space."
Frick you!
I'm pretty done with it, $40 for like 70 hours of fun is a really good trade. I'll probably start again when illuminate come out but the thrill is gone.
Game certainly isn't dead though
Don’t these morons also think that a charger’s weak point isn’t its huge sack on the back but it’s legs?
Other way around. They were surprised that people went for the quick kill by blowing up a leg and finishing it with a couple primary shots instead of emptying five magazines into its fake abdomen weakspot until it popped and caused a slow bleedout.
>Spear still not fixed
>raise the flag missions are now at higher difficulty
Nice!
>solo players get way more patrols
Why!
STILL NO DOT DAMAGE FIX BTW, STILL NO ARC MISFIRE FIX BTW, STILL NO SPEAR FIX BTW, STILL NO SCOPE FIX BTW, STILL NO DETECTOR TOWER HELLBOMB BOUNCE FIX BTW,
ALL OF THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE LAUNCH BTW
>Senator got a speed loader
HOLY FRICK Black person, I'M COOMINGGGGGGGGGGG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The buffed the Senator at the cost of Redeemer. Not worth.
Redeemer was always getting nerfed, Anon. The fact it lasted this long is astounding, since people legit valued it higher than 80% of the PRIMARY weapons in the game.
Then they should make better secondaries
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For what purpose do they need to change things that are good homo. You can use the redeemer too if you want. Everyone can use it. We are all fighting the same enemy together there is no reason to be jealous someone likes the redeemer more than your choice. If your choice is so much worse than the redeemer then it is the devs fault for not making it useless.
anon…
it’s still not that good, the dmg increase isn’t enough, which makes me sad
Yeah bro top 10 on steam is a dead game alright. What is even the point of these threads like it makes no sense
>Play helldive
>Game is still pretty chill even with your standard card who can't throw his airstrikes right
>Get on 4chinz
>Gankertroons and sologays seething
Yup must be helldivers patch day.
>Buffing blitzer
>it just makes it shoot slightly faster
Come on guys, that isn't nearly enough. At least make it gain something from the tesla ship upgrade
They just nerfed a weapon nobody uses and that was universally considered to be objectively shit. I'm not saying you shouldn't be mad, but I wouldn't get your hopes up...
Blitzer is a strong weapon held back by its rate of fire. It's absolutely enough.
>read patch notes
>nearly every underused weapon in the game was buffed
>the most popular guns get like 2 fewer magazines
>sickle was even buffed
>"WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS PATCHED THEY NERFED EVERYTHING"
genuine morons
Why did the dominator get a 25 damage nerf?
Why did the liberators get a 5 damage buff?
Why did the diligence get a 13 damage buff?
What is the point of these changes? Do they even hit any meaningful breakpoints? This feels like shitty filler. Particularly the dominator change feels like "Let's make the weapon feel worse just because :^)"
Dominator got damage nerf because of Slugger crying.
Liberator got +5 damage because the devs are based and want the Liberator to have a purpose other than being a worse but cooler looking Sickle
All Marksmen Rifles blow, so they needed something (I think that weapon class should just get extra weakpoint damage modifiers, but nobody seems to like that idea).
Yeah cuz that five damage really makes the choice less obvious when the sickle still has 2x the mag size, functionally unlimited ammo reserve, holster reloading, and no recoil over the libtarderator. The point is is that these changes are complete nothing burger at most and spiteful at worst, the liberators should have gotten a mag increase and the dominator shouldn't have been touched at all.
balance by spreadsheet
the spreadsheet says the liberator is ten percent underutilised below expected values, so it gets a ten percent buff
Ignore this anon. Fricker doesnt even know how much hp enemies have, he just wants (you) validation through complaining because he is lonely. He obviously doesnt know shit.
at least diligence and liberator buffs were intentional (who would've FRICKING GUESSED?!) to hit new breakpoints. No, I wont spoonfeed you if you dont know even the day-1 basics.
What fricking breakthrough is there that the liberator having 5 extra damage on a light AP weapon actually matters.
I can see it with the pen lib because medium armor AP doesn't suffer from damage reduction vs light armor, but 5 damage on the lib?
Get the devs wiener out of your mouth anon.
Where is "Thriving GOTY masterpiece" guy? Is he safe? Is he alright?
People shit on darktide, but atleast nearly all of the weapons feel really good to use (though it took nearly a year)
Test
hi anon, why did you get banned?