>here's your midrange GPU bro

>here's your midrange GPU bro

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >less than $500

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >$450 MSRP ($650 in stores)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >$800+ on eBay

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >€800 in Europe
        Can't fucking wait
        FUCKING NVIGGERS

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          1 euro=0,80 dollars you like

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          its not nvidias fault you enjoy 20%+ VAT.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Pay up poorfags

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >$450
        should I wait on getting a 3060 ti for $445?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          3060ti is going for like $350 on amazon

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            post link, that's just not true unless you count whatever the fuck this is. I should mention the 3060 i am looking at is (or was) msrp before taxrape.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            yup i just bought one today for that price

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for the tip - finally, a slight bump from my 1070 at an affordable price. Or at least, low enough to take a gamble on.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        +tip

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >$499.99 msrp
        >$799 in stores

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      $499.99.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Plus tip

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      nice "low end" with a price of older few gen back high end

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    can someone please explain to me why ANYONE would buy a 4060 Ti instead of a RTX 3070 if this is the case?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you're not in America, the 3070 is more expensive.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Okay but why would NVIDIA go through the trouble of manufacturing entirely new graphics cards if they perform the same as last gen, instead of just manufacturing more 3070s?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Money.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So they can make a smaller chip, increasing yields, and jack the price of xx60 cards up a tier to $500

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Stop asking questions, it's bad for business.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          ummmmm shut up ok?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          a 3070 would be expected to release at a lower price point and doesn't have gimmicks to sell on fomo.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Much smaller chip for better yeilds meaning more profit, but more importantly another shift in the stack. 60ti is now where the 80ti was. Sell the 4060ti for $599 - between 3070/80, no perf $ increase, no devaluation of 3000 series.

          5060ti for $799, 6060ti $999.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It's also a shift in the performance stack.

            1060 = 980
            2060 = 1080

            3060 = 2070 (a downgrade. should be 2080)
            4060 Ti = 3070 (an even bigger downgrade)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          cool it with the anti semitism

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because 5 years ago they bought the fab time to make these gpus on schedule and not making them burns $700 million.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          take the hint. Supply lines are collapsing and so is the worlds economy. Nothing is going to make sense for the next 7 years. If China invades Taiwan say goodbye to buying a GPU for at least 4 years.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          bigger numbers better

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >~~*?*~~

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you asking nazi questions?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't 4000 series better in term of electricity they use?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but the real reason is margins. A 4060ti probably costs half as much to make than a 3070.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Interesting. Though we're winning as well if it's more efficient too. Especially with the retarded clown who refuses to surrender to the schizo, so prices of electricity and gas is skyrocketing everywhere.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          They've been doing this for at least 5 generations. The new cards usually have lower power usage, slightly better specs, better performance, and lower msrp.

          Easy example is the gtx 970 vs 1060
          >die size: 398mm^2 vs 200
          >base clock speed: 1050 vs 1506
          >boost clock speed: 1178 vs 1708
          >vram: 3.5gb vs 6gb
          >tdp: 145W vs 120
          >msrp: $329 vs 249
          I don't know why people are surprised. The bigger question is why they're inflating prices when their gaming revenue and profit (net income) have fallen off a cliff with the death of mining.

          Pic related (Nvidia's FY 2023 runs February 2022-January 2023)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          remember when intel was releasing the same sandy bridge CPU for like 10 years before amd beat them and forced to actually improve? its the same with nvidia but CEOs are family both collude and dont plan on competing

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I am being genocided right now, stop asking questions

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          PC paypigs must upgrade once again

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          A better question would be how NVIDIA can get away with these cartoonishly evil shenanigans, and AMD STILL cannot gain any meaningful marketshare.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Because AMD's CPUs and GPUs share the same fabs, but they make way more money with CPUs. So they'd rather paper launch their graphics cards and maximize profits, than actually fight for market share.
            There, that's the reason. It sucks, but this is why.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          DLSS3

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          stop being antisemitic anon

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >$1k for a fucking 3070
        these assholes do know the mining craze is over, right?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, that's precisely why they're overcharging. They are unwilling to let those profits go, unwilling to accept it was a temporary thing.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but the AI craze is just beginning. Nvidia can't stop winning.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Miners didn't directly cause the prices to go up, ETH dominance dropped from 96% to 57% from the start of 2021 to the end of 2021
          NVIDIA simply used them as a convenient scapegoat to jack up prices, which also caused FOMO (must buy GPU at inflated prices now or risk them becoming unavailable in the future)

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks the price hike was crypto miner's fault
          Stupid goy.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            NVIDIA ceo is Lisa Su (amd ceo) uncle, they will keep colluding and fuck over consumers till world burns

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >muh ebil corps
              The real issue is retard consumers paying premium for these cards.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >uncle
              nope that was a rumor, jensen said it's not true

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          canada pricing is all over the place, nobody updates their prices, and only a few select cards will be close to msrp, so its like you want an ASRock card for less than msrp or a asus card for +$900

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They are still selling for about $600 in the USA which is retarded.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          that's just nvidia making sure the market stays corrected, nothing to see.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I bought a legion 5 pro with 3060 and other good specs for 1000 bucks (New) what the fuck are these prices?
        Yeah its a laptop gpu and not a 3070 but thats insane

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      muh dlss magically generating unlimited frames. latency is a myth btw.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        DLSS3 reduces latency compared to 2, and even compared to native thanks to higher framerates, retard.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          damn that's so cool a feature which replaces 1/3 of your frames with shitty blurry AI generated frames

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            try half

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That complaint is already mostly fixed. The part about blurry or dithered content was fixed before most people even had a 4090.
            Signed. a 4090 user.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >already mostly fixed
              yeah no, looks like dogshit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          No?.. Your latency will always be based on the native refresh rate. I am not saying that it is bad. But it doesn't improve latency.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You are confused. This isn't interpolating frames. Even the "ai generated" frames allow your monitor to respond faster. Rendering at the lower resolution allows for faster response in any case. There is NO situation where DLSS adds latency, otherwise FSR and AMD would be calling it out and it would be big news.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      much less power draw presumably

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      depending on where y ou live 30 series is still hard to find at or below MSRP unless you go used. some people dont like used. If theoretically you could get a 3070 or a 4060 Ti for the same price, the newer 4060 Ti is probably(?) maybe the better buy.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The gigantic amount of benefits of the proprietary shit nvidia tossed into the 40xx over previous gens. That is why,
      DLSS3 is a huge boost to performance, only found on 40xx, and the extra frames mean lower latency.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >fake frames that look like shit and only kind of work if you already have a very high frame rate

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >DLSS3
        >the extra frames mean lower latency
        I guess it's bait

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That's false though. The extra frames actually make latency worse because it's only doubling the frames and not shitting out more real frames.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Its one frame of additional lag.
          People are acting like it adds literal seconds of lag.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You wouldn't even be able to use dlss3 effectively on it because it chews up a bunch of VRAM and this thing only has 8Gb.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >because it chews up a bunch of VRAM
          debunked in an earlier thread

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you plan on having your GPU for at least 5 years, you should buy current gen
      As time goes on the older gens get less driver optimization. Gradually performance gets worse than newer gen GPUs of similar or even slightly less power in moderns games.
      >t. had a 980ti until today

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >newer
      >lower power consumption
      >new DLSS features
      Not saying it's good, just that there are some clear reasons why you'd pick it over the 3070. It's a shit price for a 60-class card and price/perf didn't improve at all, which hasn't ever been the case before as far as I remember. Even when AMD was stuck on GCN1/2/3 they at least lowered the prices for the same tier of performance every time.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It’s the Lovelace architecture for coolness, silence, and lower power draw. It’s very efficient so people are probably going to want to overclock it as well.
      Otherwise people should just get a 3070 for ~350USD

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Okay but why would NVIDIA go through the trouble of manufacturing entirely new graphics cards if they perform the same as last gen, instead of just manufacturing more 3070s?

      power consumption, lower temperature and proprietary gimmicks performing better.
      if you just want raw power and don''t give a shit about yor PC becoming a jet engine, be my guest and stick with the old card

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    waiting for the next gen of cards is smarter than buying any of these half assed shits

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3070 performance at the price of... a 3070, oh joy!! Fuck this stupid company.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So, mid range performance with high-end power draw?

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This gen is so bad. You literally have to buy a 4090 to get a meaningful upgrade from last gen. All of them are housefires too.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong about temps. I had 3080 10gb and now run 4080 reference card and its running way cooler compared to the 3080.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You have to buy a trusted alternative adapter GPU power cable and CableMods one still caught on fire.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        nah its just retards who cant properly plug the connector fully in

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I remember getting my 1060 6GB for $230 a month after launch

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw still on my GTX 960 I paid 200 euros for

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder to not update your GPU drivers anymore, Nvidia will gimp your 3xxx GPU to make 4xxx gpus more attractive.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    building a pc now must be far more expensive than getting a console, even ignoring monitor/keyboard/mouse etc, even a low end PC is still expensive

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I need to buy a MOBO, GPU, and a case but now I don’t know what to do for the GPU. I don’t need a 4090 but I don’t want a 3060 and below either.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just got one for $1k and it's got a 3080. I'll be enjoying midrange specs for over a decade.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      not really. you can build a ps5 tier pc for 650usd, xsex toer for 750usd.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >XX60ti is $500++ dollars plus tip now
    Might as well buy a console at these prices.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What, am I supposed to be impressed?
    Blackwell fucking when, get this shitshow gen over with already.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >implying next gen won't be even worse

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Blackwell fucking when
      2024

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >buying a GPU in the current year that doesn't do 4k60 on ultra

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >falling for the 4k meme

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Geeze. Good thing I got a 4090 at launch for MSRP.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So it will be 3070 rebranded or on a smaller nm fabrication process and sold at 599$ in current year?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      they cant make new hardware due to shortage, and we're just seeing the delayed results of that . they were putting out press releases a long ass time ago, expect actual next gen cards like. 4 years from now, considering how slow their pipeline has been

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    we're days away from the new games being released and seeing how badly optimized they are for PC and you needing a new 500 dollar card to play them

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I'm really looking forward to the technical shitstorm when Nogwarts releases.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, in real terms that game will require the same kind of hardware as Odyssey. Origins if we are lucky. Ultimately it is made for consoles.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          They had to delay the last gen versions. That doesn't happen with a game you've got running well.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Possibly. But that doesn't mean they won't get it running well on launch. We'll see, but in terms of their planned platforms, and just the way the game looks, that's my guess. Mind you, say what you want about Ubisoft, but they do optimise well.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How much did 1060 launch again? 250? I remember the 480 was on par and that was a 200 dollar card.
    450 msrp (550 in stores) is the new mid range?

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    My 980 is on life support and I don't have money to buy a new gpu. How fucked am i

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you sell the 980 you could probably afford to jump to a 1660 Super or 1080ti range card. Good enough, especially at 1080p.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    thanks bro

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      these were supposed to be the RTX 4070, 4060 Ti, and 4060

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i would even say 4060ti, 4060 and 4050. and now we are getting this trash for ""special"" price 799 plus tip

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      lol, they are not even the same bit depth. It's a completely different card to the rest of the 40x series. If there is a more gnomish company on the planet right now to Nvidia, I'd be mildly surprised.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >128bit
      just like my 1650super 🙂

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This cannot be real, identical image was posted yesterday and showed 4060 Ti at 192 bit, this is just trolling.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Not to mention that we know it'll be 180w and not 220w

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >128 bit GDDR6 when RTX 3060 Ti had 256 bit GDDR6X
          I get CUDA cores don't translate between generations, but what a downgrade on the memory.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            3060 Ti had GDDR6.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Not the currently available version. The new ones have GDDR6X for the same price, $400.

              why don't they make supers anymore

              That was a one generation thing because Nvidia delayed the 3000 series and the 2000 series was a very mediocre upgrade over the 1000 series.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Nvidia gave it a GDDR6X refresh last year

                how many people realistically have the 6x version though? Im in america and checking microcenter and Newegg it's all the 6 version not the 6x. I can't find the 6x version available anywhere . Not that I would buy one I already have the regular GDDR6 edition

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Even if most people have the GDDR6 version, it still makes the 4060 Ti a total downgrade.
                All of the 4000 series cards should've had GDDR6X.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Nvidia gave it a GDDR6X refresh last year

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This cannot be real, identical image was posted yesterday and showed 4060 Ti at 192 bit, this is just trolling.

      Not to mention that we know it'll be 180w and not 220w

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >128bit bus width size
      >8gb vram
      now i'm 100% sure my next gpu will be from amd fuck those garden gnomedia garden gnomes

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    poorfag tbh. have a 3060 Ti and happy with it but i'd bne lying if i said im not tempted by the 4070 Ti despite the shit price. 3090 tier performance is enticing. I cant afford a new card though. It sure would be nice to be able to play 4K and higher settings without using DLSS performance all the time. 192 bit bus is crazy though but youtube videos make it seem like it isn't a problem at least not yet. But I'm just gonna stick with my 3060 Ti and see if I can wait until the 5000 series

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you want to play on 4k, you're better off with a used 3090 than 4070ti
      If 1440p then 4070ti is the better deal

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >used 3090
        >memory chips on the back of the card making cards an hero

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >AV1 encoding
    does twitch support it yet ?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Any day now™

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    so plain 4060 will offer 3060 perf for less than 400? what a fucking steal

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I can buy just about any card and I'm sitting on my 1060 because I only play old shit and don't give a fuck until I see smoke.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    someone convince me not to CONSOOM right heckin now

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      forgot pic

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >2 out of 5 stars
        uh I don't use Ebay but that seems like a bad sign?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          its the rating of that model of GPU, not the seller

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Why would ANYBODY want to buy a used GPU after the crypto fags we’re going nuts?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Ive been told that doesnt actually matter but Ive also never seen the numbers to back that claim up. If you have any info on that I would love to see it.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't matter IF the cards are well maintained. The fans are probably fucked, but the rest should be perfectly fine.
            But sometimes you get this: https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-gpu-cracking-not-caused-by-drivers-storing-conditions-and-cryptomining-to-blame
            Basically, this YouTuber/repair shop received a bunch of AMD cards with cracked dies and other weird hardware failures. He blamed muh drivers at first, but it turns out they were mining cards. The previous owner probably cleaned them like this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yVmetm1RwAM but didn't dry them properly, so the cards literally exploded when he turned them on again.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >I spent most of my life mining but now I'm ready to settle down in a nice gaming rig

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >only $1000AUD for the lowest tier card
    Just how stupid does nvidia think we are?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Australia
      Very

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Considering the last 2 to 3 years, they justifiably have a very low opinion of their consumer base.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >only $1000AUD for the lowest tier card
      >Just how stupid does nvidia think we are?
      Very
      6900xt and 6950XT where cheaper here

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      consumers have proven that they don't mind being rugged

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Just how stupid does nvidia think we are?
      Very, and their abysmal sales are reflecting it. They are now attempted to quadruple down on this shit despite it's repeated failure with the 4090, 4080 and 4070

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I paid like $499 AUD for a GTX 1070, possibly the best purchase I ever made
      >now
      >a 4070 Ti is $1500 AUD

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >3070 performance for less than 500
    how much can you get a 3070 for nowadays?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      american here. Microcenter's website =

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      american here. Microcenter's website =

      newegg

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      $500

      Nvidia is controlling prices to ensure there is no cheaper options.

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I find it hilarious how garden gnomevidia gives ""MSRPs"" for their cards despite no longer having founders editions and cards are only available via board partners. Their MSRP is literally fake and gay because it's for a product that doesn't fucking EXIST

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    this shit's probably gonna have a worse framebuffer than the 3060ti and 3070

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    watch it have 6 gigs of vram

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no such thing

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No thanks I'm still fine with my RX480.
    Call me when the "midrange" is back down to $200.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Call me when the "midrange" is back down to $200.
      literally never gonna happen

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Well then don't call me back at all.
        I guess I'll make do with integrated graphics from now on.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Low tier vga vs a whole console
    How can pc cucks even competed against the console true master race

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    60 series is not for gaming chum

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    lmaoing @ pc goyming. thanks for the laughs

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      only chumps pay these prices. For a good laugh check out /pcbg/ on Ganker, lots of consoomer gays there who absolutely need the latest and greatest, but also claim to not play video games and just do "work," but never specify what that work is.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I always find that shit hilarious. moron if it's for work then your company is obviously going to be providing you with the gear you need. So that just narrows it down to unemployed NEETs LARPing as "freelance" developers and gays who want to pay out the ass to fuck around making stable diffusion meme images.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          90% of people there build for their own sake, enthusiast builds, NEETs couldn't afford those high end builds... use your brain before you reply retarded shit to a butthurt retard

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        need dem cuda cores to make donuts on blender

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah who knew that suddenly everyone on the internet is actually an AI developer or professional renderer. "I need my GPU for work" is just a a cope consoomers started using when called out for their retarded addiction to spending money.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        As a fact most people there do not actually buy those expensive GPUs it's just autistic talk on principle to win autistic internet arguments.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3060 Ti and 3070 are almost the same. This makes the 4060 Ti the worst upgrade in its class with price in mind.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >midrange cards used to go for 200-300 shekels
    end this nightmare

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw I bought a 1660S as a holdover back in 2020 and was planning on upgrading a year or two later
      >tfw don't know when I'll be able to upgrade

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The 1660 Super is the people's champion, you don't need more.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I jumped ship from AMD to intel in 2016. I forced myself to upgrade my barely 2 year old 280x when the 1070 came out because I got a 3440x1440 monitor. Then it snowballed from there because my 8350 was 'bottlenecking' my 1070 so I got a 6700k. It took weeks to even have a 1070 in stock while using a stock tracking website (even back then people were snatching up all gpus for mining) Now I sit here with a system I've had longer than my AM3 system and I still only play old ass games like I did in 2010. Even spending 489 for my gigabyte 1070 seemed like a fortune.
        >tfw I know for a fact I can't upgrade unless I make a job that pays twice as much now

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >I jumped ship from AMD to intel in 2016.
          wise choice there since the 13600k is 1080 titan tier

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Nah this was before zen was still out and at Ganker we were just praying for AMD to have something that can match sandy bridge IPC because most games still didn't care about more than two threads and valued high IPC. Now amd has MOAR CORES and the IPC to match.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The 1660 Super is the people's champion, you don't need more.

        Oddly enough that is the same GPU I'm using currently, along with an SSD, 16GB of RAM and a R5 3600.

        Will I be able to run Hogwarts Legacy at 1080p with that?!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You can get an RX 6700XT for $400.
        If you are outside the US, it sucks to be you. Hopefully you can get Alixpress to send you a cheap card.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >>tfw I bought a 1660S as a holdover back in 2020 and was planning on upgrading a year or two later
        this is LITERALLY me
        but there is nothing worth upgrading for, since AAA is a fucking joke, so I'm perfectly fine with the 1660s

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw got a 980ti for 300$ think its one of the best purchases i'v ever made for my PC
        Feel like a boomer that got in the bubble and shut the door behind me

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    what are these fucking naming conventions just name it after the year produced

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The 3070 had an msrp of $500. What a crock.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'll stick with my trusty RX 6600XT.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      wtf it's almost as powerful as my 1080 ti I bought for 800$ back then
      how much did you pay for yours?

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm cool, jacketman
    I'll run my 2070 super to the ground and make sure to never buy anything telavidia again

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    My 2070 died and I had to stick my old 960 in my pc. Should I upgrade to a 30xx card or a 40xx series?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Same thing happened to me. My 2060's vram is fried. Using a 950 now just for basic computing.

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    gaming is a luxury, i don't know why poorfags keep trying to become one of us instead of playing soccer or basketball like good rednecks do

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    that makes no fucking sense, the 3060 ti already trails behind the 3070 , and the 3070 ti gives like 5 frames more than the regular 3070 how the fuck could they squeeze another fucking card in there?

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Is it bad that I looked at the price and was wondering why is that bad? That's not that much? I think I've gotten used to inflated prices past 3 years

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >fell for the 4070Ti being as good as the 3090Ti for half the price
    ok now what?
    there's nothing to play it's all pozzed garbage
    release Armored Core 6 pre-order already so I can buy it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      RTX cards are for making AI porn now not gaming

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people still obsess and buy this overpriced goyslop?
    Literally gachamoron mindset

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    worth getting a used 3080 for $500?

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna have to see some benchmarks, looking to upgrade from 2060 Super for better 1440p performance

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There is no chance it will be less than 600.

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >WAAHHHHH!!!!
    >I WANTED PRICES TO STAY AT 2005 LEVELS UNTIL 2050
    Poor people, lmfao

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you quoting?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Most rich people I know are frugal. That (and and attitude) is why they are rich. Budgeting is a central concept you have to accommodate if you expect to be successful. See I know you are not rich. You don't talk like a rich person. You talk like a hoodrat.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Most hoodrats I've seen have a lot of money but that's only because they are all involved in gang activity. What good is having all of that cash when you can lose it all at any moment.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Titan z used to be 3000usd+
      Nvidia have been making retarded overpriced gpus for a decade now

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i dont think people would complained if their salary raised as much as those prices you dumb moron

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    When my current hardware dies that's it. I'm done with PCs. I'll game on a steam deck and an xbox.

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The 3070 is already less than $500?
    Plus why would they price their shit like this when the whole scam this generation is pricing their new cards ONTOP of the old ones.

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If it can't even play Forspoken at 1440p 60fps, is it really midrange?
    Forspoken is the new baseline.
    I'd post picrel but I am on my phone

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3060 Ti
    >bigger die
    >256 bit bus
    >8 GB
    >costs less

    4060 Ti
    >smaller die
    >128 bit bus
    >8 GB
    >costs more

    ??????

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck you and pay up. Its not like you have a choice. We all know ATI still can't code a display driver so you're just fucked. Oh by the way by the time retailers and scalpers are done that'll be $1100. Plus tip.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      bigger die of samsung trash silicon

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      die
      >>256 bit bus
      what do these mean? not very familiar with the specifics of a GPU and what influences its performance

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        google

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        uncle Ted really was right about everything.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >8GB

  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Waitan for 4060 Ti gayman laptops.

  55. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly don't know what I even want. I'm a bit wary of buying anything at this point honestly. I think if I get something I'll probably go pick out a floor model/display model prebuilt in a year or two when they're trying to push out the 3xxx line. It worked for my current 1070 build. Naturally it's not the top tier thing, and never was, but I got a 1070 build, replaced the ssd and added an hdd, and then a new psu, and it's pretty good, $1000 all in in mid 2019.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >in a year or two when they're trying to push out the 3xxx line
      Should someone tell him?

  56. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    thanks but im sticking with my 3060 Ti

  57. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Name 1 non-pozzed game that need a 40 series card.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      dying light 2
      cyberpunk 2077
      RDR 2
      ark survival evolved

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >needs
        none of these games NEED a 40 series card lol tf? all of these run fine at 1440p or even 4k depending on CPU @ 60+ fps

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        3 outta 4 of those games are unoptimized POS

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i play dying light 2 and rdr2 just fine on a 2080s.
        cyberpunk runs like ass though and changing the settings from ultra to low changes absolutely nothing in performance for some reason.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >dying light 2 cyberpunk 2077 RDR 2
        i have finished them all on 1650super

  58. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    give me ONE good reason not to buy the 4070 Ti

    you can't

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >

      Name 1 non-pozzed game that need a 40 series card.

  59. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >we'll never get 200$ midrange cards ever again
    Maybe it's for the best

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Maybe it's for the best
      yes it is
      (the statistic is even more egregious for zoomers)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Uncle Ted is always right
        Accelerate

  60. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you bought an evga 3080 at msrp and you'll never buy another gpu ever again

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Based.
      EVGA could see the way the wind was blowing
      Fuck garden gnomeVidia

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Jacketman and his crew must have been colossal gays for EVGA to completely cut ties with Nvidia and just stop manufacturing GPUs even though it was their most lucrative business

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Prolific=/=profitable. Despite gpus being 80% of their product sales power supply profits matched profits from gpu sales. That's the power of margins.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw I bought a 4070TI cuz it's still cheaper than a 3080 in my country

  61. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    whats the one ?

  62. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I just bought a RX 6700 for under $300 australian and got Dead Island 2 and Callisto Protocol with it for free. Best deal I could find in this shitty climate. Hopefully next gen the prices will be more sensible and I'll build a new PC for 4k.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Dead Island 2
      that game that will never come out ?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that one.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      fuuck thats cheap

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      sure you did anon. proof?
      its going for $460 AUD at least.

  63. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >3070 performance for less than $500
    That already exists though, it's called the 3060ti.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      shhh we have new products to sell
      t. nvidia

  64. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    > TWO GORILLION MEGA DOLLARS IN AUSTRALIA!
    I hate how we allowed Americans to just take everything over. Parting will be difficult, and the US will practically go to war to keep it's greasy paws on the 19 trillion our resource sector is worth, but it's starting to get to the point where even the everyday normie is starting to feel ripped off. And that's how it starts.

  65. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Alright gays, how many times do we have to go through this:
    Mid range is the MIDDLE of the generation. It is NOT DEFINED by price.
    It has always meant what the midrange always meant. When the top becomes more expensive of course the middle will go up too.

  66. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >he didn't buy a 4090 when they were in stock
    Shiggy diggy

  67. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I am beyond done with PC gaming. The crypto shit was supposed to be over. Prices didn't go back to normal. I've been fucked out of a badly needed upgrade for 2 years now. Don't even ask how bad it is. I'm just done bros. This gen can fuck off. I'm getting a console and a steam deck and combined they will cost less than ONE FUCKING COMPONENT of a PC. I wouldn't even bother with a steam deck but I have too many games on Steam that I still play.

  68. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Bought a new Riva TNT for $50 1 month after the TNT 2s release in 99.
    I like how the parts prices are going through the roof while the quality of the titles that actually require a top of the line GPU is going straight through the floor.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I had a Riva TNT AGP model.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Oooh, fancy. Even the PCI version was a huge upgrade over my old card pack then.

  69. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3070 chad here. I’ll wait for the kino 5070

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I wish I could've waited but AC6 is gonna come out before then and like a retard I bought a wide screen 1440p 144Hz monitor.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you will be fine. Use DLSS balanced and med/high settings gets you quite far

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          what keeps you playing AC? the first one on x360 was pretty impressive but since then it seems they've just become the most cookie cutter AAA series ever. what makes you hyped for its continuation?

          Armored Core you fucking zoomer transsexuals not Ass Creed.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Ace Combat predates both.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I love Ace Combat too relax.
              Armored Core, Ace Combat & Monster Hunter are the only games I buy nowadays.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Armored Core, Ace Combat & Monster Hunter are the only games I buy nowadays.
                man of taste

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Rise was shit.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what keeps you playing AC? the first one on x360 was pretty impressive but since then it seems they've just become the most cookie cutter AAA series ever. what makes you hyped for its continuation?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Come on, Animal Crossing isn't THAT bad.

  70. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    PLEASE I JUST WANT TO UPGRADE FROM MY 750TI WITHOUT TAKING OUT TWO MORTGAGES

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      get a 6700xt, they go for 360 usd. or if the FUD around AMD is too much for you, you could look for a 3060ti.

  71. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    so i take it i should be happy i got a 3060ti?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's probably the only GPU Nvidia has released in two generations that's not a complete ripoff.

  72. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >less than $500
    >meaning $499 MSRP, as per bullshit marketing standards
    >for a card that performs the same as a 3070
    >the 3070 being a card that was $499 MSRP over 2 years ago
    It's the RTX 2000 series all over again: wait a long time so you can pay the same price and get the same performance. Even the stagnation is a rehash now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      at least 2000 series launched ray tracing and dlss which are somewhat legit features. the only thing 4000 series has is dlss3.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It has av1 encoding too. That's literally the only reason I haven't just bought a 6800xt to replace my 1070ti since they're going for 600€ now.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >It has av1 encoding too
          ouperformed by fucking Intel's A770 lmao

  73. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >got an asus TUF 3060 ti for $426
    My 620W PSU should be fine with it right?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      no you should get a 1000w plat psu minimum.

  74. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Still no games with owning anything better then a 1070.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      there doesn't need to be because they're convincing gamers to buy higher resolution monitors which increases the GPU draw of every game by at least 50% for every main res increase.

  75. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Current year
    >8gb
    >Over $400
    lol. lmao even.

  76. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Building my first PC this year and I make a good salary finally. What should I buy? I don't fucking understand the nomenclature of these cards.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I’m this guy except I’m fucking broke

      What’s a budget gaming PC I can make. Everyone keeps saying get the 6600

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Building my first PC this year and I make a good salary finally. What should I buy? I don't fucking understand the nomenclature of these cards.

        name the price tag and games you wish to play.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I'd like to spend under 2200USD, the lower the better and be capable of playing modern releases on ultra. The lower the price the better, I thought that not much more than 1000usd was enough to build a top of the line gaming pc a few years ago...

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            ultra at what resolution and framerate?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              1440p, 100FPS

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'd like to spend under 2200USD, the lower the better and be capable of playing modern releases on ultra. The lower the price the better, I thought that not much more than 1000usd was enough to build a top of the line gaming pc a few years ago...

                id go for a 13600k, 1tb nvme drive, average b660 mobo, 32gb ddr4 and a rtx 4080 or preferably 4090 if you can stretch the budget a few hundred.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                id go for a 13600k, 1tb nvme drive, average b660 mobo, 32gb ddr4 and a rtx 4080 or preferably 4090 if you can stretch the budget a few hundred.

                Lmao for 1440p you don't need a 4080, get a 4070ti

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Not if you want RT

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Seems to do fine here

                4080 average 10 more fps in cyberpunk, not worth the price jump.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Not disagreeing with you or anything, but 99.9% of those videos are completely fake. They don't even own the cards. Look at proper reviews instead.

                die
                >>256 bit bus
                what do these mean? not very familiar with the specifics of a GPU and what influences its performance

                Pic related is the GPU die. The bigger it is, the more expensive the card is to produce. Costs scale exponentially, not linerarly: a 600mm die is much harder to produce, and thus much more expensive, than a 300mm die.
                "256 bit bus" refers to the memory bus. Bigger memory bus = more bandwidth = more fast. But also, you guessed it, more expensive to produce.

                What Anon is saying is that the 4060Ti is XX50Ti card sold for $500.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                thanks 🙂

                google

                have a nice day retard

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >i can't google hurr durr no you are the retard hurr
                fucking kys gay
                useless trash

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                1440p ultra 100fps in upcoming games like forspoken isnt anything to scoff at. recommended specs is 3070 for 1440p30. next gen games are finally coming now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      the GPU you need depends on the monitor resolution you're gonna use
      as for CPU go with a 13600k since it's the best bang for the buck PC component in a long time

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not the 134000?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I believe that won't be out for another 1000 years.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry I meant the 13400

  77. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Entire shitshow made me reevaluate my spending and I'm unironically richer for it.

  78. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is a dumb question but is it true the PS5/X1X is equal to a 2080?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ps5 is equal to a 6600xt, xsex is equal to a 6700xt. comparing to nvidia cards is a little bit more vague because even a 2060 demolishes the consoles in raytracing but the consoles are ahead in raster.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the reply. What about the Switch?

        I’ve heard the newest iPhones are better than the Switch for gaming

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, and yes: modern phones are definitely faster than the Switch. At the end of the day the Switch IS an overclocked phone... from 2015.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      PS5 = 2060 Super, 2070 | 3060
      Series X = 2080, 2080 Super | 3060Ti

      Thanks for the reply. What about the Switch?

      I’ve heard the newest iPhones are better than the Switch for gaming

      It's a significantly underclocked version of this: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/jetson-tx1-gpu.c3230 .
      The Series X is like, 30 times faster? Maybe more? The performance gap is way too big, it's impossible to make a proper comparison. Just to give you an idea, back in 2005 Sony said the PS3 was 35 times faster than PS2: that's how huge the performance gap is.
      So yes, the Switch is very slow nowadays.

  79. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How much would my 5900x 5ghz 3600 ram and a 1kw psu bottleneck a 5090 next year? Assuming its 50% faster than the 4090
    Only running 4k 60hz and 3440x1440p 144hz but i want it to run rt flawlessly should i keep my 5900x B550-F 2080ti or update

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      We don't know how fast a 5090 will be, and it won't come out next year: it's AT LEAST two years away. The only answer I can give you is:
      >60hz
      The 5900X will definitely be enough for 60hz for many, many years.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        What about 100-144hz on my ultra wides

  80. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >60Ti GPU for $500 MSRP
    >AIB models will be $550-$600 minimum
    When built my first PC, these shits were $300 and some AIB models were even under MSRP.

  81. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    So what fucking gpu do I buy for 1440p? I've been pushing back building a pc for 4 months and I have a 1440p monitor that is just laying there on the ground that I do not have a use for

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you go with the best you can afford. See how much money do you have to spend then look for what the nearest price GPU is and buy the thing. Is it difficult for you?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There doesnt seem to be a good value 1440p gpu though. An rtx 3070 costs 650 yuros. An RX 6700xt costs 470 eur but it's ayymd..
        Rtx 3060ti is 500 eur, but it sounds way too weak to be viable for several more years.
        Rtx 3080 still costs as much as a 4070ti
        And the 4070ti still seems to have its own issues

        Do i just give nvidia garden gnomes my money and get a 4070 when that comes out? I cant justify spending almost 1000 yuros on a xx70ti

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I have a different mindset to you. I can't buy the mid-level card because I know I'll want more further down the line. It'll be a nice new toy for a month or so and then something will get released which it struggles with and I'll end up selling it to upgrade.
          I've wasted so much money doing this over the years that I just buy the best or just stick with what I have until I can afford the best.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You waited for the right time, dude the 7 series X3d just launched, the 4070ti just launched, the good AM5 socket mobos are out, there aren't significant ram shortages, build now, as in right now.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >7 series X3d just launched
        they were just announced, they're coming in mid february
        You're also ignoring the fact that both AMD and Nvidia have overpriced as fuck GPUs with no or almost not improvement to price/perf compared to previous gen.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          4070ti is the best value for money GPU right now, AMD cpu prices suck but you're getting in on an AM5 CPU/mobo so you can easily upgrade late gen.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      3 options for 1440 imo.

      Budget 6600 at $200 which will sometimes play 1440 but always have your back to play at 1080. You won't be locked out of playing any game.

      Used 3080 or any of its variants for $500-$650. Much more true 1440 card

      4070ti at $800. Future proofed 1440 card

  82. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Hey that's the same price I paid for my 3070, what the fuck.

  83. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ok? i got a 3070ti for $450
    looks like i win again

  84. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Im never going to get a 4050ti am I? Its going to be a laptops only and if not the 4050ti will need some insane power draw even being the 50'

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry, it'll come to desktop and cost $400msrp, but because there will only be AIB cards, they'll cost $450-$500 and have a fuck huge triple slot cooler despite being 75w TDP.

  85. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i will just wait year or two then buy cheap gpu which shits on current gen console gpu and dont upgrade for next 10 years. Expecting consoles to be bottleneck for pc games again cause moron devs will not release pc exclusive ever again.

  86. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >build PC in 2017
    >GTX 1080
    >i9
    >nowadays can barely run anything new
    >can barely run Hell Let Loose (and that's years old)
    >can barely run Darktide
    >can barely run Warzone 2.0
    >can only play garbage like Overwatch 2
    >need to spend at least $750 for an upgrade
    >the upgrade is like 10‐15% performance boost
    lol lmao

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      this, not gonna upgrade, fuck this shit, aaa gaming need to die, meanwhile I gonna play some good indie titles like noita

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      unless you run them in 4k i dont see how thats possible, you should be able to run all of them with ease

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that you have a CPU called an i9, is proof enough. A lot of us still use parts from when i9 was a joke when used to exaggerate a PC build. I still can't believe an i9 even exists.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The i9 9900K is slower than a i3 12100

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What a load of shit. I have the same graphics card and a way worse processor, and it runs all games perfectly fine at 1080p @ high settings

  87. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Any reasonable cost upgrade for playing at 1440p? Still have a 980ti currently. CPU is a 3800x.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but only if you buy AMD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kiOLC2Ca_I
      If you want to stick with Nvidia, only the 3060Ti isn't a complete scam. But don't get me wrong, you're still getting fucked even if you buy AMD.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks anon.
        Yeah, it's all fucked forever, the only thing we can do is choosing the least bad choice.

  88. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Hiw garden gnomeed will the 4070 be? It seems like the best gpu to get out of this shitty series if it will have atleast 12gb vram

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If the 4070ti is 799$ and the 4060ti will be 499$, then we're looking at something between those prices, which is a chasm.
      The thing is, the 4070ti was supposed to be a 4080, so where would the phantom 4070ti that would have been made were that not the case slot in, and where does that leave the regular 4070?
      Too soon to say. Either way it'll be a ripoff, because it'll be as strong as a 3080 while being either the same price or more expensive.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The 4070ti is already as expensive as a 3080 here lol

  89. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >currently still using my 1080
    >was thinking of getting a 3080
    >a friend is now talking up how I'd be better off with a 4080 instead
    I play on 1440p, 144hz, should I just opt for 4080 instead?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, after they cut prices in half in summer (year inconclusive)

  90. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >3060ti
    >bought right before the 2nd big crypto boom
    >supports for the only noteworthy feature of the RTX cards
    >10 years before ultra performance will stop giving me 60 [email protected] in new AAA releases
    I can honestly see nvidia starting to artificially nerf DLSS2.0 because they realize nobody's buying new GPUs

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i mean, if you have zero fucking eyesight, then sure, enjoy your upscaled 360p.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        ultaperf 1440p is 720p source and the VAST majority (99%) of media content you consume is already upscaled, the difference is that dlss2.0 is a shitload more effective than lanczos

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          What are you talking about you dumb retard
          At 1440p utlra performance means the internal resolution is 853x480

          please, read up on dlss before making dumb claims. Also you are literally blind to not see how awful utlra performance looks.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            m8 ultraperformance was intended for 8k displays. it looks like crap even at 4k.

            you claimed it was 360p so no this isn't a uno reverse

            m8 ultraperformance was intended for 8k displays. it looks like crap even at 4k.

            looks better than scaling to 1080p on 32" native 1440p

            I genuinely wish I went with 1080p. I got a 1440p monitor because I got memed into it on pcbg, and while it does look nice, the performance hit barely seems worth it. I could have just got a 1080p high refresh rate monitor, a 3060ti and been set for 5 years

            what is this dumbass reasoning? you can still play games at 1080p on a 1440p monitor plus you also get an actual useful desktop

            also 1440p 144hz is affordable now so you lose nothing unless you unironically wanted a cheapshit TN and literally don't care about what your monitor looks whatsoever, there is zero reason for buying 1080p nowdays unless you are on the tighest of budgets imaginable and for some reason can't wait a little bit more to not end up with an obsolete monitor

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/oymxyp/dlss_20_render_resolutions_one_post_to_rule_them/

          wrong

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Only DLSS quality is passable for 1440p.,anything lower than DLSS quality is a blurry mess if you're using 1440p.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      m8 ultraperformance was intended for 8k displays. it looks like crap even at 4k.

  91. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >every new GPU is missing a DVI connector to create an artificial need to buy a new monitor
    I hate garden gnomes so much it's unreal

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >on no. where's my scart socket and S-Video connector

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >no component on new TV's/receivers

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >new TVs
          Yes
          >new receivers
          You aren't buying a large enough receiver. Almost every input imaginable is still on the large ones.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You bought some gutter trash cheap monitor don't blame Nvidia for it. DP and HDMI are older than Christ at this point.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      poorfags are actually pathetic

  92. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why aren't there any GPU companies that offer high level performance but for lower cost? Why are you forced to only buy the Retardbro Edition for 2000 dollars from the only 2 companies that make it? Where's like the "homebrew" GPU that is just as good but only costs 600 bucks or whatever?

    Like Apple VS PC, you spend exorbitant amounts of money on an apple but can get a PC 3x as good for 1/3 the price of apple.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Look at Intel for your answer.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      theres plenty of AIBs that are "cheaper", but usually for a reason, but some of them can be very good

      conduct your own research before buying so you don't end up with a noisy overheating terrible card

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Chinese manufacturers literally do just that, except what you get is pretty dodgy, they are literally taking what they produce from the factory and selling them off the side without a name.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because it is very capital intensive. If you launch a bad card you'll go bust very quickly. Unless you have resources to keep funneling money into the furnace.

  93. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Im fucking scared crypto is pumping again, cant take another 3 years of those garden gnomed prices

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't matter. GPU mining is dead regardless if crypto pumps or not.

  94. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need >60fps. You dont need >1080p. Stop falling for these memes. You will save a lot of money and time.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      nobody needs more than 240p30fps. anything more is a meme invented by garden gnomes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you can build decent pc for 650$ with rx 6600 r5 5600 16gb ddr4 and 1T SSD its vastly more powerful than current gen consoles but im not sure if its future proof enough, pc ports are so garbage nowadays, modern """devs""" incompetence has no limits, i can see this being not enough for ~~*AAA*~~ games.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        a rx 6600 is not "vastly more powerful than current gen consoles". the graphics solution in xsex is pretty much 1:1 to a 6700xt.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely wish I went with 1080p. I got a 1440p monitor because I got memed into it on pcbg, and while it does look nice, the performance hit barely seems worth it. I could have just got a 1080p high refresh rate monitor, a 3060ti and been set for 5 years

  95. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I want to upgrade from my stock 2080, what are my options?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      just wait. any proper upgrade to that is a ripoff.

  96. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >window shopping GPU prices
    >3090 is as expensive as 4090
    but why

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      stock is drying up

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        So it's impossible to get cards for good prices now because of cryptogarden gnomes and nvidiot? Nice.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          No. It's because you're poor. If I needed a GPU I can get one delivered tomorrow, no issue, no messing about, no tears. You just can't for whatever reason.

  97. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >midrange
    bro that's bottom range for that gen.
    It should realistically cost no more than 150 bucks.

  98. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Aged like fine wine.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I never had one but that's basically an undisputed fact now. I don't feel like my 2070 is that old and my friend still has his 1080 Ti getting the same frames as me when DLSS isn't a factor.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I've still got the exact same card and it's the best I've ever owned. Although I have the funds for an brand new build now, but I'm more inclined to buy a 3080 since I can find them new for under 700 locally.

  99. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    4070 Ti should be less than $500

  100. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >here's your 3070 performance for 3070 pricetag

  101. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    @625028287
    >for good prices
    Nothing in your post has anything to do with that. Having enough to spend on a GPU doesn't make the price good. Anyone saying the prices are right now is trolling.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      meant for

      No. It's because you're poor. If I needed a GPU I can get one delivered tomorrow, no issue, no messing about, no tears. You just can't for whatever reason.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Continuously moaning about something on internet won't change the prices.
      Either buy one or don't. You can't buy one for the price you want to pay, ok, then don't buy one. Problem solved. Next.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >don't discuss things how I don't like on Ganker
        lol

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >we're not crying like little gays, it's called a discussion
          LOL

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm fine with people spending their own money however they want, as long as they're aware of the fact they are getting scammed. You still want to pay $900 for a 4070Ti? Sure, go for it, it's a great card. But know the only reason it costs more than $400 is because we're in a post mining boom market and Nvidia is trying to milk its consumers as much as possible.
        There are no "good" deals right now, not even from AMD. No, the two year old RX 6600 isn't "a steal" for $250, that's how much the 30-40% faster RX 7600 should cost.

        As long as you say "Listen, I know I'm getting fucked but I don't care, I want my frames," I'm fine with it.
        It's only when people say "I bought a 3080 for just $600, what a great deal" that I get unreasonably mad. Because it means Nvidia succeded in normalizing higher prices, and the ignorant consumer is ruining the market for everyone else.

  102. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3060 Ti offered 256 bit bus this one will offer 192

  103. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    should be 300$ max
    reference design from nvidia should be 200$ and AIB cards should be 250-300$.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You're unfortunately paying for their research as well.
      I know.. no one asked for meme scalers and so on but they still went after that.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        nvida has huge margins on graphics cards.
        the supply issues are gone and manufacturing is back on track to where it was before the coof.
        this is just nvidia squeezing people for extra money. amd isnt any better right now. they see that people are willing to buy at those prices and thats what theyre selling at.
        t. working in shipping. i coordinate goods from china, india and germany. the prices for goods are almost back down to pre coof times. right now they are only about 5% more expensive than before and i expect that to go back down too.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >t. working in shipping. i coordinate goods from china, india and germany. the prices for goods are almost back down to pre coof times. right now they are only about 5% more expensive than before and i expect that to go back down too.
          Good to hear, inflation is more like 40% here in Romania, but only for consumer products - food mostly oh and the energy is still high but we produce all of it internally so that's ok for people that buy from state.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            unfortunately food is a bit of a different story. because a lot of europes food came from russia and the ukraine. i expect those prices will be inflated for a while yet until some sort of resolution is reached in the conflict. i know in germany they are switching over to be self sustaining so their prices might normalize quicker when it comes to food.
            i cant speak to energy as i have no experience in that but when it comes to labor for manufacturing and raw materials for tech the prices have gone down. the issue is big tech companies are now used to the bigger prices and people are paying them so they have no reason to go down again unless people dont purchase things.
            the reduction in materials and manufacturing are seen as profit increases and the reductions are pocketed rather than passed on to the consumer.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              To be fair people analyzing the prices and the situation over Nvidia, especially on Ganker over these last years said something along your lines. That the price is mostly their greed and it's not justified.
              And also that most of their 3000 stock was sold to minders and that even then it didn't perform as intended.
              Now even mining is over lol.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                There's a gamernexus video explaining how Nvidia is using performance gains to increase the prices effectively negating any generational shift improvements, and they've done for so long that he predicts a possible XX60 tier card to be $50, while basically or linearly performing the same as your old 1060 did back in the day for much more less.

                Personally I think they are using they're only profitable products to subsidize the rest of the company's shitty products.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >a lot of europes food came from russia and the ukraine
              Western europe is one of the biggest agro exporters in the world. The slav wheat was going into the third world, Russia only sold fertilizer to euros.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The food prices are up in US as well, similar percentages.
                People were literally complaining about ti for months across all boards, that their favorite fastfood chains suddenly went to absurd prices.
                Seems to be a global trend.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                thats almost entirely due to fuel prices shooting up and inflation. not the availability of food produce itself.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That chart is bullshit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I doubt it since he just lifted the data from official sources. Zeihan is a bullshit person himself, that's true.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I know it is because the Netherlands is the biggest agriculture producer and exporter in Europe. On top of that 70% of imported agricultural goods is exported again. Most of the food we consume is grown locally.
                So yes, that chart is fucking bullshit and does not take everything into account.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >In 2021, total Dutch agricultural and related product imports were valued at $103.2 billion
                >The Dutch export of agricultural goods is estimated at 95.6 billion euros for 2020, which is one percent higher than in 2019, according to an annual report by Wageningen University Economic Research (WUR) in the Netherlands and Statistics Netherlands (CBS), commissioned by the Dutch Ministry of Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Van alle landbouwimport komt 70% uiteindelijk weer in het buitenland terecht
                Translation: of all agriculture import 70% ends up abroad.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Really takes me back

  104. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    https://chipsandcheese.com/2022/11/02/microbenchmarking-nvidias-rtx-4090/

    But Ada Lovelace’s improved cache architecture deserves a lot of attention. AD102’s L2 cache implementation is dramatically improved over GA102’s. Obviously, it tackles the memory bandwidth problem by increasing L2 cache capacity, almost to AMD Infinity Cache levels. The amazing part is that Nvidia has done this while also improving L2 cache performance compared to GA102. AD102’s L2 has more bandwidth, allowing it to feed the additional compute capacity. It has reduced latency, making it easier to utilize the available bandwidth. Better L2 latency indirectly reduces VRAM latency as well, because a significant portion of VRAM access latency is just moving data across the GPU die. Ada Lovelace does that faster. And of course, AD102 should have to hit VRAM less often than GA102.

    Why is Ganker so retarded? Large L2 caches amplifies available bandwidth and Nvidia has reduced L2 cache latencies despite adding significantly more L2 cache in the newest GPU microarchitecture

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      sounds like a marketing post

  105. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >8gb vram in 2023

  106. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nvidia can eat a bag of dicks, hopefully their greed makes them go bankrupt.

  107. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Why aren't Nvidia and AMD under investigation for a price cartel?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because Israel is the top producer of semiconductors.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        isn't that taiwan?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because corporations own politicians and not the other way around.

  108. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    why doesnt AMD just use this opportunity to steal market share

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because they are incompetent

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      AMD ceo is NVIDIA ceo niece

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        epic meme

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It isn't a meme. Ask Goolag.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because the price gap has widened to such a degree that trailing your competition in price is better than heavily undercutting them. If you have noticed everyone in current day capitalism is doing the same thing. Why wouldn't you when retards are more than happy to pay up anyway.,,

  109. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >this gay thread is STILL HERE
    CHRIST, The amount of copium you poorfags need just to entertain yourselves...
    The fact of the matter is simple. If you're priced out of the market, you're not a part of it anymore, lol.
    Do you think anyone cares if little Dinbab down in India can afford a 4070, lol? Oh but he's priced out of the market! Oh noes! He can't play Fortnite!
    Then he won't. You won't. None of your poorfags will. Things cost what people are willing to spend. That's how capitalism works, you butthurt gays. Go buy some sticks and rocks and go play in the mud with your peers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      detected the zoomy chudie

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Cry moar, poorfag. This isn't for you. Maybe do a third world poorfag activity like rape someone or rob a store, whatever you cockroaches do for fun.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      These spoiled Americans are unaware that they're the new third world. Tesla? Not for you! Home? Not for you!
      >but I'm white!
      lol, that never mattered

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There's a difference between being poor and being stupid. I can afford any of these cards, I'm just not stupid enough to believe any of them are worth what they're asking.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Hello yes I am a dumb retard who doesn't understand how economics works
      Pricing out the majority of the market based on the now dead habit of crypto grifters buying your products in droves is not a smart business decision.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You don't have money to spend, why would a company care about you?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I do have money to spend, I'm just not retarded. There is such a thing as pricing out your viable consumer base. Cryptobros are done, tech YTers are a minority. So who the fuck is the market for this absurdly priced GPUs?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Enjoy those 40% lower sales. Numbers can only go up from here.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I can buy a 4090 right now if I really wanted to upgrade, I just think spending over a thousand dollars on a consumer GPU is a stupid idea.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Things cost what people are willing to spend.
      Wrong. See what actually happens is sometimes things are overpriced, nobody wants to pay for them, and the price has to be lowered. You're btfo by statistics on card sales and you're btfo by multiple people replying that can afford the cards but refuse to buy.
      >b-but houses are actually worth millions of dollars goy
      Meanwhile everyone knows that corrects or outright crashes all the time.
      have a nice day, garden gnome.

  110. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    My 2080ti is still going strong.

  111. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I got my RTX 3080 for $580 (MSI Gaming Trio) in 2020. What's funny is that premades with RTX 4080+ is less expensive than buying parts separately now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Prebuilt parts are shit and prices on everything but graphics cards have held or gone down in all performance brackets. It's very hard to do a direct cost comparison because you can't even buy some of the shit they throw in there to save money.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The biggest electronics store in my country doesn't sell factory prebuilt PCs, they build them themselves and you can pick and choose parts. It's overall cheaper than buying the parts individual because selling a whole PC vs selling a GPU is more profitable overall for them.

  112. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nvidia's prices in Europe are so fucking out of wack compared to America that I can't see this costing 500 euros (dollar simply slashed out and replaced.) The 3060 is still within that price range.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      those prices are without tax and before ~~*currency conversion*~~
      you can easily count on +25% in euro countries

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That used to be so in the past, no there's a random +10-20% on top of that for no justifiable reason.
        It used to be country VAT + border fees offloaded to the consumer.
        AMD cards still sell that way for example for some reason, at least in EU.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Some guy from Israel reported to us that Nvidia prices there are much higher than in Europe... our gnomish friend was garden gnomeed in the garden gnomeland.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They have next to no natural resources and spend a huge chunk of their GDP on their army. Plus mandatory 3y conscription of youth.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Have you seen their property prices as well? It's the scam nation par excellence.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So like Soviet Union but without resources, if you count out the American golem which is like an endless resource.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Americans don't include state and federal taxes in their prices. It's still more expensive over here, but not by as much as it might seem.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There are only state taxes, which are ~7% in sales taxes. Any federal tariffs or import fees are built into the MSRP.

  113. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    not my problem, my 1070 from 2016 still runs everything in 1080p

  114. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >starting
      >4080s are 2 grand canadian

  115. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw still on a 1060 3gb

  116. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw still stuck with a 980 which is slowly falling apart
    I am tempted to drop 3k on a new PC with a 4080, but the prices are just beyond retarded yet will most likely not go back any time soon.

  117. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ordered this yesterday guys how did I do?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      sir

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      overkill cpu not like u have nvidia drivers to power through

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Wanted to futureproof myself with AM5 and maybe get a RX 8800 or something later.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          future proof is just a way of saying sunk cost fallacy
          could have paid half the money and got same performance

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >could have paid half the money and got same performance
            Not true.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              on 1440p+ yes, could just buy a 5600 and some 3200 ram lol

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                makes no sense

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                6800 is not top end gpu ur going to be gpu bottlenecked at 1440 and 4k hows it make no sense?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Going to sound like Linus here, but the only thing worth "future proofing" is a really good PSU that can last you at least 3 builds.
          CPU and Motherboards are always getting newer features like GPUs,you could have a really fast part but missing X feature that makes it worth the upgrade.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            PSU caps don't last that long. That's one of the first and most dangerous wear parts.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              S tier PSU can last you 10 years

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              The only thing that has ever failed on me other than hdd is the psu. Even a high end 850w seasonic I had went out with a bang after just 5 years

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            ""Future proofing"" turned out great for AM4 users, a friend of mine went from a Ryzen 1600 to a 5600. Same motherboard, same RAM: he spent €130 for the new CPU, 2x performance.
            So I can see why people would rather get AM5 than AM4 or Intel right now. That said, there's no guarantee AMD will keep their word, they almost didn't with AM4: the only reason they started supporting their older motherboards is because Intel started kicking their ass.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of money wasted on that cpu and mobo, unless you really need it, you could have used the extra money on a better GPU, PSU or SSD

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ah heck at least it will be good for like 6 years at least

  118. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >few cudacore than the 3060ti
    >the same memory as a 3060ti
    >but with lower memory bus and banwidth than the 3060ti
    What the fuck are they doing?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      lol that might turn out to be true

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It will have to be otherwise it will have faster memory than the 4070ti, which would be pouring petrol on an already raging bonfire.

  119. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a 21.5 inch 1080p display.

  120. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Still better than my 2060s will see and probably get one

  121. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ten years ago a midrange GPU cost 300 dollars. Inflation has been on average about 3% per year since then. After inflation thats about 400 dollars. Assuming “Under 500” means like 450, then thats a whopping 50 dollar markup. Damn how are you guys gonna survive? 50 whole dollars!!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >midrange 300
      no they were like $200-250

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Ten years ago
      exactly

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Ten years ago
      exactly

      2016, some people can still gayme with this thing just fine and have the same vram of the homosexuals spending $1000 for a 4070ti.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm so glad I bought a 1080 Ti. That thing screams at 1600p even today.
        Honestly, unless RTX becomes mandatory, I don't think I'll never need to upgrade. I don't care about 4k/8k nonsense.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >1600p
          What fucked up resolution is that?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            16:10 version of 1440p.

  122. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    lmao bought my 1080ti for like 400 7 years ago, the constant seethe from poor fucks and zoomer cucks is palpable

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >7 years ago it was january 2016 almost a year before the 1080 ti released

  123. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >still on waitlist for EVGA 30xx series card

  124. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Almost same performance than what it is replacing
    >Hey goyim, here's 300€ more for it
    They can't keep getting away with it.

  125. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >3070
    >less than $500
    The 3070 is less than $500 today. I got a 3070 Ti for $490 4 months ago. Another DOA 4000 series card.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >he bought a 3070ti

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >he bought a 3070ti
        ...for less than a 3070. The only problem with the Ti was it's stupid pricing. If you could get it for the same or close to the price of a 3070, it's still a better card. Even managed to undervolt it enough to knock 110w off it.

  126. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >GTX 1060Ti > GTX 980
    >RTX 2060 Super > GTX 1080
    >RTX 3060Ti > RTX 2080 Super
    >RTX 4060Ti == RTX 3070
    into the trash it goes

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >GTX 1060Ti > GTX 980
      they never made a 1060 ti tho

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you're right, the standard 1060 was faster than 980

  127. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >keep the 4090 the way it is
    >turn the 4080 16gb into the 4070 and price it at $549
    >turn the 4070 ti 12gb into the 4060 ti and price it at $449
    >turn the 4070 12gb into the 4060 and price it at $379
    >turn the 4060 ti 8gb into the 4050 and price it at $299

    Would Ganker have been okay with these prices?

  128. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    why don't they make supers anymore

  129. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >3070 for less than 500
    Are they retarded?
    The 3070 is already less than 500 and it's low range now with the new requirements.

  130. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    RIP evga

  131. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder there's now a gddrx6 3060ti which is basically a 3070 thanks to the faster memory.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The regular 3060 Ti is already basically a 3070

  132. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    saw a guy selling a 3090 ti for $650 but I passed because the power consumption is ridiculous. 400+ watts. even with an undervolt it would be 2much4me

  133. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    why is it that pc fags only talk about specs/hardware? They rarely ever talk about games

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because PC has no games at least not games that actually work without stuttering and mods just to make them run

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      youre implying consolefags do? coomer trash isnt games

  134. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >less than $500

    yes 499 is exactly 1$ less

  135. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Are amd cards better?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      depends on price point, in the end neither is worth the money

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        if you dont have a high end cpu yes

        How about the rtx 6700xt? I've been thinking of getting it

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Someone answer me

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      if you dont have a high end cpu yes

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, there goes my plans to pair an i3 with a 4090.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          why post just one game when there average of all games

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        why post just one game when there average of all games

  136. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    yeah thanks but at this point I think I'll stick with my 1080ti and 4790k until the heat death of the universe

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesnt know about the Universe vacuum decay theory
      it might be sooner than you think

  137. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    My eyesight is so fucked that I literally start having migraines and cluster headaches when I play on high refresh monitors or ones with heavy 3H anti-glare matte coating. Only logical upgrade over my 2560x1080 60Hz monitor is a 3440x1440 60hz one, at best I require something along the line of 3080 RTX or 6800 XT with every cranked up to ultra. Let's hope 4070 or 7700 XT costs $500 and I can peacefully retire my 1070.

  138. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing under $1000 that'll be a exciting upgrade from my 1080 ti or thousands of others stuck on the new G92, because the 12GB 3080 is around $1200 for a good one. Just look at STALKER 2's recommend requirements, a 1080 ti is where the starting point is, and 11GB of tightly-timed GDDR5X on a 352-bit bus is a LOT more than what cards Nvidia claims replaced it can offer, same deal with it's core count, as a chunk of those on an RTX card are half-precision cores non-RTX/DLSS games will never use in any meaningful way

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643320/STALKER_2_Heart_of_Chornobyl/

    Nvidia completely fucking RAM for higher resolutions on all but the x080's and onward has ruined the concept of a midrange GPU, but both Nvidia AND AMD were slow to acknowledge resolutions beyond 1080p were mainstream as early as 2016, although AMD is a lot less stingy on sizes in comparison nowadays. The problem is that Nvidia doesn't see AMD as a competitor in the high-end, so their idea of replicating that strategy is throwing 12GB of slow GDDR6 on a 3060, while keeping the 3070's in an 8GB ghetto because something like a 12GB 3070 ti would absolutely cannibalize 10GB 3080 sales and onward

    Shit like the 10GB 3080 may as well have been named "average DAG size edition" considering these cards were made in a universe where ETH was going to be mined forever, and half of my upgrade apathy is because these are NOT gaming cards in any real sense and Nvidia doesn't need to be enabled. Crypto-tailored launches aside, the whole "dedicate a chunk of the die for RTX/DLSS bullshit" was a terrible design decision and not worth what appears to be really inconsistent RTX performance on all but the $1000+ cards, wherein the DLSS bandaid comes in. I'd rather have a card that can do that natively

    I didn't pay attention to the 2000 launch because that's how I got my 1080 ti, but when I looked to see if a 2080 ti might be a cheap upgrade, I saw they're only 11GB, fuck the hell off

  139. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >me still using my 1080Ti

  140. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What are the chances I buy a 6600 and then they announce the PS5 Pro?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There won't be a pro, only slim

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the main character? If so, Sony will make a PS5 Pro only because you bought a 6600. If you don't buy it, the PS5 Pro will never be made.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Even if Sony and Microsoft wanted to release midgen refreshes, they wouldn't happen for another 2 years at minimum. They can't even make enough of the current models to satisfy demand.

  141. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >3060 Ti

  142. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ryzen 5 5600g or 4600g
    I want to save 20$ to buy other components, is there a difference?

  143. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw 1070 supreme ascended elder god tier race
    waiting for the 5070

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