Monster hunter has always been a dps check.
The quest ends in failure if you haven't killed the monster in 50 minutes.
But then monster hunter is also an mmo.
I don't hate the concept as long as it has a baseline for people that want to challenge themselves with weak weapons. I'm not opposed to minimum damage thresholds where better weapons or stats make a fight way easier and not possible.
>it's not THAT hard to beat
It's embarassingly easy for being a black dragon, it's like they added the nuke after they realised how braindead the fight is
Fatalis is Alatreon but done properly
>so shit at videogames he literally cannot comprehend the thought of somoene else having killed Fatalis
holy kek
3 months ago
Anonymous
>defending a monster he cant beat
you shitters get worse and worse each and every year
3 months ago
Anonymous
>traumatized by a videogame bossfight >expects people to immediately record themselves killing it like speedrun trannies as if it's some grand achievement
Grandest kek
3 months ago
Anonymous
>still so shit at games and still so adamant about defending a monster he cant beat
keep going, im sure you can do it
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why are trannies so parasitic that they try to blame others for their failings?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>15
why so little? the fight was to shit to do more?
3 months ago
Anonymous
*pfft*, you've only hunted 124? Everyone KNOWS you have to be in the tens of thousands before the fight starts getting really good.
3 months ago
Anonymous
nice try Black person, the fight is shit and a disappointment. I guess it doesnt matter for someone who doesnt even play the game anymore.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So why are you here?
3 months ago
Anonymous
to defend alatreon and shitpost, why else would anyone be here?
Monster Hunter as a series has never forced you to go elemental to beat something, it wasn't until this shit and it opens up some many doors until even more moronic shit.
>you need a specific build to beat a monster
World was a mistake
Monster Hunter as a series has never forced you to go elemental to beat something, it wasn't until this shit and it opens up some many doors until even more moronic shit.
>you have to change your build >in Monster Hunter >a game with no classes or levels where you can craft different armor/weapons at any moment
I really don't fricking know why anyone would consider this a bad thing for MH
The only thing you do in MH, nearly 100% of the time, is killing shit and gathering materials to craft armor/weapons.
Fights taking advantage of this to make you change build and get you out of your comfort zone at least partially should happen a lot more.
I think way more monsters should have debilitating statuses and shit like wind or constant roaring that requires you to build a set to fight them so you get to work out a new way to slot all your skills tbh.
Game design crutch.
The only reason you'd ever arrive at the conclusion of making something a DPS check is >We have run out of ideas how to make this harder
Its basically admitting that you can't die otherwise and/or enforcing a grind on the player
Mmos do this because the game persists of avoiding red circles and hoping your healers don't have a stroke
its funny cause the fight itself isnt that hard, the reason its difficult is because youre pressured to play very aggressively which can lead to mistakes, all of which stems back to the dps check. fatalis is alot better in this regard and alatreon shouldve just been on a 30m timer with more hp
Wrong because Fatalis came after, was harder and didn't have DPS checks. Alatreon is a monster fully designed to push you to play aggressively and "dance" with the monster
The perfect hitboxes, the fact he gives you an opening for the head after almost every attack, the limited flying, allows you to damage him constatly once you know the fight, reaching the DPS very reliably.
You do that and Alatreon should be dead before he can even use the second one, or at worst a couple mins after that.
its funny cause the fight itself isnt that hard, the reason its difficult is because youre pressured to play very aggressively which can lead to mistakes, all of which stems back to the dps check. fatalis is alot better in this regard and alatreon shouldve just been on a 30m timer with more hp
You are thinking backward.
They didn't design an easier fight and used the nuke as band-aid.
They started from the idea of the nuke to push an aggressive playstyle, and designed the fight in a way that would allow that to work.
>They started from the idea of the nuke to push an aggressive playstyle
Thinking of a crutch before or after makes little difference, you're still using a crutch
>the one monster in the series that actually requires you to make counter build >is the most hated in gen 5
this alone proves that all the "you have to prepare for hunts in old gens" gays are just shit talkers
This lmao >endless complains about no build variety in World, one set for everything >Alatreon forces you to switch to an elemental weapon and change armor a bit, people lose their fricking minds >also in Rise, where elemental is in a much better spot, people always complain they have to make multiple builds for better damage
I bet that if Wilds introduces actual gameplay-changing elements like weather and seasons, where skills and armor pieces can be more or less effective depending on them, people will lose it again.
>Rise >Multiple builds >When it's the same build but you change 2 element decos around
They may have an argument for dragon but all other elements are the same shit lmao
Wilds most likely will bring in something similar to polar/tropic hunter that gen had, aka just another fricking damage skill you can stack on top of everything else for free due to new armor skill system
>if Wilds introduces actual gameplay-changing elements like weather and seasons, where skills and armor pieces can be more or less effective depending on them
That actually sounds like a neat gimmick. Sort of akin to how the beetles can inflict waterblight in Rise, what if a water weak monster caught in the rain suffers even more damage from water weapons? Or if they scale it back and say you're fighting a monster like Jyrua and he hardens up with mud but the rain keeps washing it away making him soft. Could be interesting. Maybe your fire weapons do less damage in the rain but more damage in arid areas.
>Wilds uses a combination of world and rise investigation system >Anything that isn't 5 box, 1 faint, 25 min, perfect weather condition is thrown in the bin
Lmao
Why do homosexuals always pretend like you are forced to go elemental to beat alatreon? Just go solo and use your normal dps build that you found online and go fight him. You have at minimum 25-30 minutes to kill him before you run out of faints.
I don't get it, by the point you fight this guy you have access to tons of elemental options. Is it really that hard to whip together one set to beat him? Like it's not rocket science, some ice/fire attack on armor and an ele weapon should do the job. You have Velkana's weapons and armor right before it even. >b-but I don't have materials to make it
How about you HUNT some MONSTERS then. God forbid you play the game to beat it.
In nier replicant I was playing hard mode and when I got to the DPS check boss just before the time skip I don't think I could possibly have done it if I hadn't happened to walk into the fight with just enough damage boosting items on me.
after that I set it to normal, it made fights against regular enemies much more enjoyable but bosses started going down too easy
I dont like them.
I stopped at Alatreon because I didnt have a specifically ice elemental build or decent ice safi weapon, it would have taken ages of farming to get one ready, so i just dropped it. Ecliptic meteor was less gay than escaton meme
WorldBlack folk defending MMO fights in a singleplayer games just proves that you need to gatekeep as hard as you can IF you still have a franchise that has avoided the normalhomosexuals so far.
There is no going back. There will NEVER be a good monhun again. The community will NEVER recover from world.
You WILL use the copypasted set some moron minmaxed online. You WILL act like you are not a lesser human being because you beat some mon that was artificially made difficult by oneshotting you.
And no, Rise did not fix World. It was a bastard child of the good games being raped by Worlds shitty design decisions, but at least it was a step in the right direction.
Sadly the next game is just going to be more of World, but at least you have that russian spyware this time to block modding.
>game has become an excuse for, largely, for people to hang out and flirt and smoke/drink
KEK of the highest order lmfao
also fun fact, there is absolutely no way the maker of this image played the series before tri
>game has become an excuse for, largely, for people to hang out and flirt and smoke/drink
The guy has never had physical contact with a person in his life
It's sad some titty streamer was able to beat this blindfolded but Gankerermin on here will still moan and cry >waaaaaaah it's tooo harrrrrrd, heeeeelp me mooooooommmyyyy
this wasn't too bad, but extreme behemoth back in high rank gatekeeping you from a solo kill was fricking utter bullshit
all that work and then the game tells me umm nope sister you're not actually allowed to beat this boss teehee
developers are buttholes
>I need to bring element so it's shit
vs. >actually you can just run it solo and tank the OHKOs to kill it easily >actually preparing for a hunt is peak MH
But in Alatreon's case, forcing the player to get hit in a MH game is even gayer. Weakening Escaton Judgment should shrink the AoE to be avoidable instead of something you need to outheal, while have the currently weakened version be the standard. Lunastra by extension also a shit fight for similar reasons with a nova that throws everything at you with invisible tells.
Perfectly fine as long as they dont overdo it, alatreon was handled well and it brought me back to getting walled by gravios for the first time and having to make an entirely new armor set, even try different weapons. Anyone saying that this fight is annoying probably has ADHD and wants to keep flying through the game with the same """"meta build"""" they saw on youtube.
Extremely homosexual
Monster hunter has always been a dps check.
The quest ends in failure if you haven't killed the monster in 50 minutes.
But then monster hunter is also an mmo.
yes there has always been an escaton judgement mechanic in every monster encounter since time began. moron.
>The quest ends in failure if you haven't killed the monster in 50 minutes.
t. never played gen 2 or finished a repel quest
I don't hate the concept as long as it has a baseline for people that want to challenge themselves with weak weapons. I'm not opposed to minimum damage thresholds where better weapons or stats make a fight way easier and not possible.
>2024
>still complaining about Alatreon
Jesus, it's not THAT hard to beat
asking someone how they feel about something isn't complaining. insane that i need to say this.
Hard enough to give redditors depression
>it's not THAT hard to beat
It's embarassingly easy for being a black dragon, it's like they added the nuke after they realised how braindead the fight is
Fatalis is Alatreon but done properly
Fatalis is a worse fight than alatreon. Dont even give me the "but its more challenging" shit. Worse fight
>shitter
Crawl back to your shitty MMO fight that can be cheesed out of his meme mechanic by raw anyway lmao
post your fatalis clears right fricking now, if its not over a 100 at least you are an absolute cum guzzling Black person defending a shit fight
>so shit at videogames he literally cannot comprehend the thought of somoene else having killed Fatalis
holy kek
>defending a monster he cant beat
you shitters get worse and worse each and every year
>traumatized by a videogame bossfight
>expects people to immediately record themselves killing it like speedrun trannies as if it's some grand achievement
Grandest kek
>still so shit at games and still so adamant about defending a monster he cant beat
keep going, im sure you can do it
Why are trannies so parasitic that they try to blame others for their failings?
>15
why so little? the fight was to shit to do more?
*pfft*, you've only hunted 124? Everyone KNOWS you have to be in the tens of thousands before the fight starts getting really good.
nice try Black person, the fight is shit and a disappointment. I guess it doesnt matter for someone who doesnt even play the game anymore.
So why are you here?
to defend alatreon and shitpost, why else would anyone be here?
kero
Superpower: Frog
MHA really grew on me after my housemates forced me to watch it with them, but damn is it moronic
>That nose
Is alatreon a israelite?
well frick, friendship with alatreon ended. Velkhana is my best friend now.
you are unbelievable
He is alah
Dragons have traditionally been said to sleep atop piles of gold, and plot the downfall of humanity.
I jus thought that was interesting.
kero
>you need a specific build to beat a monster
World was a mistake
not really. just an elemental weapon. elemental resistance too maybe but its not needed.
Okay so you need to go elemental if you want to beat it? How is that not having to make a build?
is it seriously that painful to swap out your main longsword for an elemental one?
Monster Hunter as a series has never forced you to go elemental to beat something, it wasn't until this shit and it opens up some many doors until even more moronic shit.
>how to spot a risetard
I know it's fun to shit on Rise/Sunbreak but almost every endgame build there are elemental since they buffed it in that game.
>you have to change your build
>in Monster Hunter
>a game with no classes or levels where you can craft different armor/weapons at any moment
I really don't fricking know why anyone would consider this a bad thing for MH
The only thing you do in MH, nearly 100% of the time, is killing shit and gathering materials to craft armor/weapons.
Fights taking advantage of this to make you change build and get you out of your comfort zone at least partially should happen a lot more.
I think way more monsters should have debilitating statuses and shit like wind or constant roaring that requires you to build a set to fight them so you get to work out a new way to slot all your skills tbh.
No, I will simply Counter Thrust every single move.
This, I don't understand people who don't have multiple pages of sets by the end of the game. Monhun encourages it by design
Game design crutch.
The only reason you'd ever arrive at the conclusion of making something a DPS check is
>We have run out of ideas how to make this harder
Its basically admitting that you can't die otherwise and/or enforcing a grind on the player
Mmos do this because the game persists of avoiding red circles and hoping your healers don't have a stroke
its funny cause the fight itself isnt that hard, the reason its difficult is because youre pressured to play very aggressively which can lead to mistakes, all of which stems back to the dps check. fatalis is alot better in this regard and alatreon shouldve just been on a 30m timer with more hp
there is one other thing they could do to make it harder... (Safi doesn't count)
Wrong because Fatalis came after, was harder and didn't have DPS checks. Alatreon is a monster fully designed to push you to play aggressively and "dance" with the monster
The perfect hitboxes, the fact he gives you an opening for the head after almost every attack, the limited flying, allows you to damage him constatly once you know the fight, reaching the DPS very reliably.
You do that and Alatreon should be dead before he can even use the second one, or at worst a couple mins after that.
You are thinking backward.
They didn't design an easier fight and used the nuke as band-aid.
They started from the idea of the nuke to push an aggressive playstyle, and designed the fight in a way that would allow that to work.
>They started from the idea of the nuke to push an aggressive playstyle
Thinking of a crutch before or after makes little difference, you're still using a crutch
>the one monster in the series that actually requires you to make counter build
>is the most hated in gen 5
this alone proves that all the "you have to prepare for hunts in old gens" gays are just shit talkers
This lmao
>endless complains about no build variety in World, one set for everything
>Alatreon forces you to switch to an elemental weapon and change armor a bit, people lose their fricking minds
>also in Rise, where elemental is in a much better spot, people always complain they have to make multiple builds for better damage
I bet that if Wilds introduces actual gameplay-changing elements like weather and seasons, where skills and armor pieces can be more or less effective depending on them, people will lose it again.
>Rise
>Multiple builds
>When it's the same build but you change 2 element decos around
They may have an argument for dragon but all other elements are the same shit lmao
Wilds most likely will bring in something similar to polar/tropic hunter that gen had, aka just another fricking damage skill you can stack on top of everything else for free due to new armor skill system
>he thinks we are getting deeper mechanics
>and not just extra free damage cause the sun is out
Well, at least youre optimistic anon.
>if Wilds introduces actual gameplay-changing elements like weather and seasons, where skills and armor pieces can be more or less effective depending on them
That actually sounds like a neat gimmick. Sort of akin to how the beetles can inflict waterblight in Rise, what if a water weak monster caught in the rain suffers even more damage from water weapons? Or if they scale it back and say you're fighting a monster like Jyrua and he hardens up with mud but the rain keeps washing it away making him soft. Could be interesting. Maybe your fire weapons do less damage in the rain but more damage in arid areas.
Shut up
>Wilds uses a combination of world and rise investigation system
>Anything that isn't 5 box, 1 faint, 25 min, perfect weather condition is thrown in the bin
Lmao
>Element weapons being viable now depends on the weather
Classic tokuda and his raw bias
the raw bias never ends
*most hated in the West
Alatreon was actually received super well in Japan, the mindbreak only happened in the West.
Nice backpedaling there. Most World defenders are Western since it was their first.
Those same morons also complain loudly about Rise having in-quest prep.
>Rise having in-quest prep.
bird collecting is good?
for an end game boss I'm ok with it as long as it isn't too nuts. alatreon is easily doable so it's ok.
Why do homosexuals always pretend like you are forced to go elemental to beat alatreon? Just go solo and use your normal dps build that you found online and go fight him. You have at minimum 25-30 minutes to kill him before you run out of faints.
I don't get it, by the point you fight this guy you have access to tons of elemental options. Is it really that hard to whip together one set to beat him? Like it's not rocket science, some ice/fire attack on armor and an ele weapon should do the job. You have Velkana's weapons and armor right before it even.
>b-but I don't have materials to make it
How about you HUNT some MONSTERS then. God forbid you play the game to beat it.
the main crime about Alatreon is that his armor set is utterly dogshit
I've beat this fricker thousands of times and I literally beat it wearing a blindfold twice
Why is nobody paying me attention? Bunch of incels
In nier replicant I was playing hard mode and when I got to the DPS check boss just before the time skip I don't think I could possibly have done it if I hadn't happened to walk into the fight with just enough damage boosting items on me.
after that I set it to normal, it made fights against regular enemies much more enjoyable but bosses started going down too easy
I dont like them.
I stopped at Alatreon because I didnt have a specifically ice elemental build or decent ice safi weapon, it would have taken ages of farming to get one ready, so i just dropped it. Ecliptic meteor was less gay than escaton meme
The only people who don’t love alatreon are copeing shitters that can’t beat him solo
You can brute force him and take 1 or 2 carts with any good damaging weapon
Ecliptic meteor is the least of Behemoth's issues. Alatreon has nothing like the gayness that is Charybdis
WorldBlack folk defending MMO fights in a singleplayer games just proves that you need to gatekeep as hard as you can IF you still have a franchise that has avoided the normalhomosexuals so far.
There is no going back. There will NEVER be a good monhun again. The community will NEVER recover from world.
You WILL use the copypasted set some moron minmaxed online. You WILL act like you are not a lesser human being because you beat some mon that was artificially made difficult by oneshotting you.
And no, Rise did not fix World. It was a bastard child of the good games being raped by Worlds shitty design decisions, but at least it was a step in the right direction.
Sadly the next game is just going to be more of World, but at least you have that russian spyware this time to block modding.
>MMO fights
old gen G rank was literally made for multiplayer Black person
>Rise was a step in the right direction
lmao
You literally have no idea what you're talking about
>game has become an excuse for, largely, for people to hang out and flirt and smoke/drink
KEK of the highest order lmfao
also fun fact, there is absolutely no way the maker of this image played the series before tri
>game has become an excuse for, largely, for people to hang out and flirt and smoke/drink
The guy has never had physical contact with a person in his life
According to this, monster hunter hasnt been good since mh1
>play RPG
>complain about stats
are you like moronic or what?
It's sad some titty streamer was able to beat this blindfolded but Gankerermin on here will still moan and cry
>waaaaaaah it's tooo harrrrrrd, heeeeelp me mooooooommmyyyy
She faked it
this wasn't too bad, but extreme behemoth back in high rank gatekeeping you from a solo kill was fricking utter bullshit
all that work and then the game tells me umm nope sister you're not actually allowed to beat this boss teehee
developers are buttholes
>I need to bring element so it's shit
vs.
>actually you can just run it solo and tank the OHKOs to kill it easily
>actually preparing for a hunt is peak MH
So...
/thread?
Did they fix monster scaling so it isn't easier with 3 and 4 people compared to 2?
Element should just share MVs with Raw.
I am tired of the Ele DB meme.
Let me charge my Ele greatsword.
you will take ze raw and you will be happy
MH fans are the most casual audience around and shat their pants over a mild challenge.
Gay as frick.
But in Alatreon's case, forcing the player to get hit in a MH game is even gayer. Weakening Escaton Judgment should shrink the AoE to be avoidable instead of something you need to outheal, while have the currently weakened version be the standard. Lunastra by extension also a shit fight for similar reasons with a nova that throws everything at you with invisible tells.
bro thinks he's hot shit because he uses a pickaxe that breaks after 3 uses
Perfectly fine as long as they dont overdo it, alatreon was handled well and it brought me back to getting walled by gravios for the first time and having to make an entirely new armor set, even try different weapons. Anyone saying that this fight is annoying probably has ADHD and wants to keep flying through the game with the same """"meta build"""" they saw on youtube.