How long until Bandai have Bleak Faith removed from steam for quite literally ripping their copyrighted commercial work (animations) from DaS3 & Elden Ring?
Making a few keyframe changes to try and pass it off as their own won't save them.
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How long until Bandai have Bleak Faith removed from steam for quite literally ripping their copyrighted commercial work (animations) from DaS3 & Elden Ring?
Making a few keyframe changes to try and pass it off as their own won't save them.
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anyone played the game?
how is it
ACTIVATE YOUR WINDOWS
i activate youre mother
>mad Serb developer
>anyone played the game?
>how is it
if you like janky action rpgs you will definitely like this game, the game world is everything dark souls 3 wanted to do but better.
but don't go in thinking it's a souls clone, there is no i-frames so you have to use the jump and crouch buttons against some attacks.
the controller support is fucked but it controls well with a kb+m after some adjusting.
the hate this game is getting is from myazaki cultists, the game definitely deserve criticism but these drones are running a campaign against the game.
>the controller support is fucked but it controls well with a kb+m after some adjusting.
well i played goyslop ring with a keyboard anyway, i'd be fine
i'm not buying that shit after
i am not a marketer, pirate it and try it, it's worth it if you are into janky action rpgs.
Hah, no it ain't. Hellpoint is a janky action RPG. The Surge 1/2 are janky action RPGs. Bleak Faith isn't just janky, it's borderline unplayably bad.
Hellpoint and the surge series are both good, bleak is the first janky action rpg i play with kb+m and i am undefeatable, just readjust the jump button and that's about it.
Sorry marketer-kun but I will NOT be purchasing your game
Commenting on the image only: Hidetaka was clearly inspired by Hayaos work. Bleak Faiths' case is different, for what evidence has been displayed in this thread, it looks like they blatanly copy-pasted other peoples work.
The whole ArchAngel Studios seems a little suHispanicious, for there is almost no information other than their facebook page, and for that reason I don't quite buy the three person dev team thing. That might be a lie to gain sympathy from reviewers and potential customers, which it has managed to do.
There is also the possiblity of what
mentioned, but I doubt that a 350+ person studio would need to buy animations from a third party, especially given the performances of their previous titles.
TLDR: Bleak seems like copy-pasted, Elder Ring was inspired by anime. ArchAngel Studios seems suHispanicious.
cringe and desperate
about 6 or so hours in and still in the hub area. can only reccomend to blame! or megastructure fans who can afford to play jank. by jank i dont mean completely broken its just not very polished in some aspects
sounds like kino to me
so far i am loving it and i can see this becoming a cult classic
yup i think it might beat NaissanceE for me in terms of megastructure games
>i can see this becoming a cult classic
provided they won't be sued to oblivion
This is the first game that actually feels like Blame! and not just some demo but an actual game (even if janky).
I'm having fun while people are screeching on steam and here.
>shits on FromSoftware game
>wants to play a game that is just a FromSoftware game
lmao has there ever been a more laughably mindbroken archetype that shazam trannies?
>that is just a FromSoftware game
>already a better combat system that has attack cancelling
fromdrones are delusional
it doesn't have basic attack queueing
Hack n slash moron detected
t. has not beat malenia
What the fuck
>Wojak posters are trannies
Not surprised in the least.
VERY early jank. The devs posted they'll update controller support and some other shit.
>console release supposed to be in june
>still haven't hobbled together some controller support
It's there but it's shit. They stated they're working on it. They really should not have released it in this state.
Cool but buggy - mechanics dont always work, I suggest to wait for patches.
Its jank but with SOVL. Its E.Y.E. meets Soulsborne
You cant be soul if you have stolen assets.
The kino art direction says otherwise
You'd mean the AI generated art? kys shill. Go activate your windows.
>generic dark fantasy shit
they should've released it in EA
they basically did
yeha I guess it would've been more honest and caused less disappointment
they game is a total beta
Barry fuck off
it NEEDS a patch or two. Unironically.
Not sure if you can fix the floaty and janky animations in a patch or two
ok maybe 5 patches
>this will be the catalyst that launches the fromfags off to scour any copycat soulslike for copyright infringement
the future is looking pretty grim
People have been making Souls clones for 10 years you retard, no one gave a shit about any of them because they were all bad but they at least had the decency to make their own shit so they just came out and faded away. You're a thief and trying to pretend you aren't one which is the specific reason people are tearing this one apart, and you're either too dumb or too stubborn to realize it
>steamsharts ban anything remotely dickysexual
>sells asset-flip plagiarism on their platform
kek the absolute state of STEAMing pile of feces
it isn't plagiarism, it's literally theft, the animations are identical
this game is trash but kys pedo gay
>kiss your sister
You're just jealous of the tight pussy he's getting. Or of him for getting it.
You misunderstand me. I'm not the one getting that pussy.
...Oh wait, I get it now. You're a roastie AAHAHAHAHA
got any videos comparing the two?
dang. I can understand if some devs do homage or references some animation from their inspirations but that seem too close. Is it just similar or they really rip the animation and use it in their own game?
Literally stolen. Assets were in an asset pack they used.
It is a souls clone game, they had to have known those animations were from the souls enemies.
Look at vampire survivors that ripped off castlevanie sprites.
>lets just make a few minimal pacing changes... no one will notice!
wait, this guys stole from elden ring?
how can you steal from a game that came out like a year ago.
must be an unreal asset flip game.
There's freely available tools for ripping models, animations etc directly from the souls games. It's extremely easy and what modders/dataminers use.
They've literally ripped some of the animations and just applied them to their own character meshes, 1:1. Baffles me that they thought no one would notice. Bandai could absolutely fuck them if they wanted to.
Oh really, mr copyright lawyer?
Because elden ring reuses animations from previous souls games lmao
You are so fucking transparent lol
I'm 100% one of the devs stole your girlfriend and it's why you've been on a crusade to shit on it at every opportunity despite how fun it is
The animations were probably manually recreated, and it'd be very hard to prove otherwise. You can't copyright the idea of an animation any more than you can copyright a chord progression.
Not at all, they even replicate flaws, which wouldn't happen with a manual recreation
Look at the wrists around 9 seconds in.
It would still be a manual recreation even if they downloaded and ripped the elden ring models, skeletons and animations and recreated them by making identical skeletons and replicating all the keyframes by typing in the bone coordinates. As long as they didn't copy and paste it they'd be legally fine.
Yes, it's stupid, but the fact is copyright law is completely retarded.
it's a retargeted animation anon
just plain theft
radiohead got sued because creep used a similar chord progression to some literal who song from the 70s
Didn't Led Zeppelin get sued over Stairway to Heaven too
Humans can only move so many ways and making a similar or even exact copy of the SAME movement is just trivial. You gonna sue me if I wipe my ass just like you? I don't get how this is an issue. It's human movement. Even if they smuggled the animation files out and copied them directly, how does that make it a bad game?
Assuming you like them
>Ok cool! Something you like is in another similar game that you'll likely like too!
Oh, you don't like it?
>That sucks bro, hope you learn to deal or just not follow the game at all, right?
So please tell me, how it is that you're getting in between two game studios and trying to drum up a negative connotation/relationship? You're just a fuckin' consumer bro. Stop bitching so much.
anon check the discord, the new narrative is they had no idea the animations were stolen because they've never played a From game before or whatever
People making the devs sweat doesn't mean it's inherently a big deal. They're *making* it a big deal. The devs have hundreds of labor hours and passion on the line, you don't think they'll get nervous if people start calling them hacks?
I couldn't give a fuck less personally, and anyone who's gonna try to drag down a studio over a reused sword animation has some much bigger issues in my opinion. I don't follow the game closely or anything, just heard about it in passing. I'll play it if it gets me hard though.
You can argue all you want but it's just fuckin ridiculous.
>a reused sword animation
is this the new cope you're passing on the discord?
Don't even know what discord you're talking about, but call me shill since you have no argument bro. You look like a fuckin baby
You're not fooling anyone Miroslav.
>pathetically tries to defend devs for free
>calls other babies
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just making fun of you lol. Pick the goalpost back up and get joggin, boy
I thought the "I don't care" phase of the shilling was over
They're not "devs", and they performed no "labor". They're thieves trying to sell someone else's honest work as their own.
considering all the shortcuts they clearly and obviously took (bought/stolen assets, AI art), it's become increasingly clear they didn't actually do all that much work.
You could've just said outright that you've never made a game dude.
You didn't either, you had chinks steal parts of other games for you and then sold it.
shouldn't have stolen then pretend you didn't know you were stealing once you got caught
>chink eating fake cement from one of their cardboard buildings
fitting for a shill from a game that uses every shortcut possible
You're not leaving the Balkans this way.
Try a different scam.
>over a reused sword animation
Hi gay dev, you stole a lot more than 1 sword animation.
Get the lube, Bamco coming to give your bussy transrights.
>The devs have hundreds of labor hours and passion on the line
All of that goes out the window and becomes meaningless when you get caught stealing assets, try to lie to weasel your way out of it, and act like complete petulant fucking cunts about it
>most soulless looking game ever just straight up stole shit from it's "inspiration"
How long will you go without your medicine?
It would be extremely painful.
>Try game out
>Character literally moves like on ice
>No 360 movement in 2023
>Default controller controls are fucking trash
Yep, it's refund time
>buys it in the first place
sail the high seas me matie
How long until the publisher of DaS and EldenRing take down the game they published which uses DaS and Elden Ring? When you stop being a fucking idiot.
The same time you take your medicine. So never.
Difference is, FromSoftware own their assets. These guys do not. How are you this stupid?
>Salt and Sanctuary was done by 2 people
>HK was done by 3 dudes
>Underrail was done by 1 dude
>Kenshi was done by 1 dude
These hacks literally have no excuse
Scale down your project, make it 2D if needed, but don't devolve to THIS shit
Hellpoint was done by a small team too and feels like smooth butter compared to that trash. I just feel bad because there's clearly "some" soul put into it. But if you can't even make decent movement system and controller support then I literally can't support it since it's unplayable
Hellpoint has more interior details in one room than this pile of trash has in its entirety
It's fucking bizarre
DELETE THIS OR I WILL COME! Also activate windows pls
So? I like Dark Souls.
...do you not grasp how directly stealing copyrighted work from a big game and putting it straight into your commercial game could cause legal problems for the Bleak Faith devs?
Bandai could go scorched earth on them if they wanted to and sue, or at a minimum pressure valve to have it removed from steam.
Niga AI just raped my hopes and dreams overnight. I don't believe in copyright rights anymore or care for em.
Devs make good game? I play.
Copyright shouldn’t exist. Corporations won’t own anything and be happy.
copyright doesn't only apply to corporations retard
Copyright literally exists so corporations can't just steal your ideas in theory
>make a souls-like
>targeting the souls fans as your audience
>the same game series which has the player carefully observe the enemy animations to avoid their attacks
>straight up rip off the animations hoping no one would notice(?)
Holy shit, what were they thinking? Are we supposed to believe both just happened to buy the animation from the same "knights spinning polearm" animation library? Yeah, well, I'm not buying it (neither the excuse nor the game).
The dev said trans rights so if they take any action against him they're transphobic.
it's the new get out of drama free card. Play it for instant immunity
It's slightly different.
>soulless vs soul
iframe mashing is cringe tbhdesu. more games should do the one on the right, it has potential to be a good combat system.
Rolling in plate armor is cringe in any form. You could have a side-step kind of dodge without having some knight forward-rolling like a retard.
something bleak faith did right is no i-frames and bosses are designed around that
I think it's hilarious how ER is obviously the better game, but strictly based on those few seconds BF is better.
>didn't rip off the hitboxes
Not a true Souls ripoff then.
looks great, you just made me wanna check it out and get a copy
so, elden ring invented... spinning?
can I spin at my home or do we have to pay royalties?
>"it's just spinning bro"
Oh no no no, Discordsisters, we need a new plan...
Yes, yes it did, Ratko.
Is the dev still getting angry in these threads?
Transphobic thread, mods do your job already.
I will now remorselessly pirate your indie game
I will now DDoS your server
>guy shows up reeing about trannies being oppressed
>probably not going to buy your game if you don't make him happy
>have to make the choice between alienating a guy who has like 10% chance of buying your game or alienating actual gamers
>think it's just two words, what's the harm
>the guy obsessed with trannies doesn't buy it either
>say trans rights!
>um trans rights
Seriously. Why are trannies like this? It's straight up cult shit. Literally anyone they interact with, they do this shit.
>SAY TRANS RIGHTS! RIGHT NOW! FUCKING DO IT! SAY IT YOU FUCKING SLAVE!
It's fucking evil.
Liberalism is a religion, anon. Always has been.
That's why it's seething at christcucks, even now, because they are the competition.
This is just a demand from the faithful to expose whether you're a heathen or not.
>Politics is a religion, anon.
fixed that for you
somehow i didn't notice that, good catch kek
That's a christcuck following who they think is a figurehead for their cult.
Same as shitlibs following democrats. The figurehead espouses the righteous mantras about chudrights etc., and thus they are followed.
There are politics that are not based in religious belief, but liberalism is quite literally just a morality cult with specific dogmas.
Because despite all their talk of ""muh oppression"" they know full well they are a priveliged class atm, and chuds are low status weirdos who crave power because they have none of it in their personal lives. It's a demand of obeisance.
You should look into "Bioleninism", it explains these creatures perfectly.
That's a go for piracy.
You got any proof or are you just making shit up because dey arr rook same
Have you tried checking the thread retard
They're obviously the same animations, but how do you know that both companies just didn't purchase the same animations from a 3rd party?
basic logic rules this out. If these animations existed in a pre-das3 generic animation pack, they'd be everywhere and used in other games before DaS3/ER came out. But they clearly in-house FS animations made for their characters.
Now it IS possible some third worlder ripped these souls animations and put them in a package on the unreal store or other asset stores, passing them off as their own to make money (this shit happens all the time, ive worked professionally for a few studios as a 3D artist). If thats the case though, the devs would clearly know that these are FS assets that they've bought, and would just be purposely playing dumb if they try and say "we didn't know they were stolen animations".
>I've never noticed anyone using similar animations therefore they aren't from an asset pack
You don't know anything. You're guessing, as I am. Do you believe that a company would work on a game for years only to have it removed from sale due to a copyright strike on an animation?
Looking at Elden Ring credits it looks like they have a lot of animators working for it. Almost all of them worked on previous FromSoftware titles and a few are new and only worked on ER.
It would make a lot ore sense that these animators worked on these animation instead of a third party.
Name one other game that has these easily recognizable animations. I'll wait.
>Do you believe that a company would work on a game for years only to have it removed from sale due to a copyright strike on an animation?
This is the same team that let their pirated windows copy slip into their official trailer, so yes I do believe they're capable of being this dumb.
Indeed, they're clearly in-house animations made by FS themselves. Using pre-made animations in a FS title would be a nightmare anyway, due to how they have the timing for attacks/actions nailed down to per-frame data.
>This is the same team that let their pirated windows copy slip into their official trailer,
>can't even be bothered to code inject their pirated OS to make it a legitimate version
why are slavs like this
>Do you believe that a company would work on a game for years only to have it removed from sale due to a copyright strike on an animation?
A company? No. 2 slavs? Yes.
No fucking way the dev of this "game" don't recognize these animations
"Copyright strike" is just Youtube facilitating DMCA abuse. There's no similarly trivial mechanism on Steam. Devs just assume that a big publisher won't go through the trouble of tryu g to drag a literally who 3rd worlder to court.
You're a fucking moron holy shit
Fromsoft doesn't use Unreal for one thing, and at least one plagiarised animation comes all the way from DeS (Uchi R2)
If they get away with this, I will literally buy their game out of respect
I was watching a friend play this and we caught another blatant stolen animation
At least it looks more useful in Slav Failure Flop
>the game made by a giant Chinese corp got away with stealing shit
You sound butthurt because Chinese are superior and untouchable. We can do what we want and there's nothing you can do about it.
I don't think that one's actually stolen, it's similar, but it has some differences in speed and poses unlike the other cases where it's 1:1.
>Slavs get caught stealing
Is anyone really surprised?
Genshin managed to get by just fine.
Oh so now it's suddenly wrong to get inspiration from souls games? Fucking soulbabs.
>directly stealing files from a game
Which is it anon, are you actually retarded or just being purposely disingenuous?
>are you actually retarded or just being purposely disingenuous?
Sis, where do you think we are?
Yes Souls games are so good people are inspired to make it the exact same.
You should be flattered, soulbab. Isn't that what you always wanted?
Why is it always brown people? I am impressed by the barefaced lying of the guy answering questions from people asking him to do extremely basic shit any animator could do. Like mirroring the animations is an impossible task for him.
Iranians have been garden gnomeing people since fucking classical antiquity. The Parthian empire was built around the fact that they were in the dead center of the silk road and they played both sides for profit, keeping Chinese and Roman traders and diplomats from ever establishing direct contact with each other so they could do things like pretend the Romans produced silk too and prevent Han dynasty China from realizing they had a monopoly on it.
Oh wait did I say Iranians and classical antiquity?
What I meant to say is semites have been like this since the dawn of recorded history
I really want to know Ea-nasir's full life story
He must have been based, considering he kept all his hatemail to cherish it, instead of reusing them as was standard procedure with soft clay tablets.
Either that or he was such a bastard merchant who received so many complaints on a regular basis that whenever his operation shut down there were half a dozen complaints in his inbox.
>First recorded complaint in history is about EA
it's a chink larping as a sandmoron.
>thread about serbian game devs stealing animations from another game
>"why is it always brown people"
it's also a chink that ripped the assets, persianinja is just his account name
Serbians have brown souls.
The tldr is:
Serbians are brown and in denial.
Croatians are white Serbians.
Montenegrins are black Serbians.
Bosnians are Serbians not in denial.
>content not found
How do you say this shit with a straight face
They are a chud anon, they don't have a "straight" face.
Your lies don't work, I love this game
Just found real horror
>How long until Bandai have Bleak Faith removed from steam for quite literally ripping their copyrighted commercial work (animations) from DaS3 & Elden Ring?
You can only remove products for things that infringe your copyright. Bandai has never put their copyright on game mechanics or even the way bosses move so bleak faith is completely immune to legal claims.
Basically, you can only claim infringement on things you specifically put your trademark on.
also, its not even possible to copyright game mechanics
it is tho, but you have to be really specific, cant copyright anything generic or vague
it's not about mechanics it's about assets
didn't genshin impact steal the whole move set of Vergil from DMC and had no problem? or is it because of China copyright laws are different?
>also, its not even possible to copyright game mechanics
WB made a trademark out of the "Nemesis" system from their middle earth games, it's scummy but it's possible.
>WB made a trademark out of the "Nemesis" system from their middle earth games, it's scummy but it's possible.
It's very hard to pursue claims for shit like this in court because even minor changes will make a judge throw your lawsuit out the window. Honestly surprised WB even did this but they are Hollywood so extra scummy even for a corporation.
I want all of you to die horrible painful deaths.
>I want all of you to die horrible painful deaths.
moron i am playing the game and enjoying it a lot.
I just don't know what it is
>you know what this fundamentally simple combat system needs
>much less commitment so the combat gets even more braindead
Just about the complexity left is having enough brainpower to not commit to an attack at a bad time.
To be fair, Genshin didn't outright steal anything. Several characters have a couple of moves that are inspired by Vergil but also broadly fit the whole iaijutsu anime meme, it's not like they just have one character with all his moves with animations ripped from DMC4.
Razor is pretty much just Nero though
looks like it's from mitsurugi kamui hikae instead
Yeah pretty much, iaijutsu doesn't automatically mean "Vergil" and the Japanese region adds a bunch of characters that all do iaijutsu shit. I'd say that's less stealing and more just a homage while putting their own spin on it.
You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about
The text you quoted said it's not about game mechanics, but animations. Yes, yes from software has a strong claim on this case. It's only a question of time when they sue the fuck out of these scammers.
You really have no idea. If it's the case, they literally have to both from a corporate and legal stand point. Catch is, this all just crack cocaine Fromcope. Do better.
>Swinging platforms for a prize
>Gotta run back
>platforming challenges in a game with shitty controls
>Rannifags are spreading to all games
Hold F to put a spawn point but i dont know if that platforming is worth it tho
the environments and ost are really good shame the rest is jank but i have played worse honestly and this is the closest we have to a blame! game
As long as it takes them to remove the hundreds of fromsoft clone games. As in never. There's nothing to fear. People can shit on Elden Ring and Dark Souls and pretend they're shit but when you've got nonstop clones failing to catch even 1% of the audience or the appeal it just further solidifies FromSoft as solid devs.
I might give possibly remotely consider giving them a pass if it was some really shitty $2 asset flip game
But they're clearly making a soulslike here; how did they think nobody would notice
you rat fuck
report the game it has stolen assets.
Sorry Pedro, already reported your trashy game, keep seething.
Have fun with court.
Kys Bootlicking snitch
so this is what a fromdrone looks like
Of course the Shazamtr00n is a brown-nosing shitheel.
t. Corpo assmuncher
makes you wonder where else they ripped stuff off from
Lol @ the boss, literally using the commander niall animations with zero changes
Based. This is what they get for supporting trannies
Just reported them on their steam page. Check out their community tab people are openly talking about it there.
what the fuck noooo! the devs worked tirelessly for 5 years, they couldn't even afford controllers...
These threads need to be deleted on sight and literally everyone supporting them given permanent bans from all boards.
fromtrannies are truly mentally ill to wage a crusade on some small indie game
I don't even play fromshit I just love watching you seethe over a shit game lmao. Go get laid.
Oh wait these devs support "trans rights" right? You probably can't get laid with that giant axe wound LOL
You shouldn't steal assets if you don't want people to try to end you (merited).
Noone would care enough if u didnt literally steal animations from Souls.
Theres a difference between making a shit game, which can happen to anyone, and making a shit game, outright stealing animations from the thing yorue trying to copy and then pretending you didnt. And charging 30$ for it.
>And charging 30$ for it.
Kind of an anticlimatic way to end your post
>reaction image from google
I doubt they care, they didn't C&D the mods for their Souls games either and modders have done pretty crazy stuff with it now.
That's mods you fucking retard. It's not the same.
As far as I know modders don't profit from said mods.
They do it for free so I doubt Bandai give a shit.
We don't know if he actually hit the report button.
Thus, anon is a gay.
it wasnt stolen. check pic and timestamp
from this asset pack on ue asset store
an asset pack...that stole animatons?
He was so close. But the reality still hasn't quite hit him. He's still in the denial stage.
Its no worse than someone sampling a riff for a tune
Besides I dont think you can actually copyright a rotating sword attack
You generally need legal permission to sample music, my lad.
Yeah but who gives a shit is what I mean?
Do you listen to something with a sample and think "omg this is outagreous, have they even got permission to do that???"
Well that's the thing, it is generally assumed that someone using a sample has in fact gotten permission.
As a listener with no vested interest, I never even consider it. If someone told me a tune I liked was using a sample without permission, I would shrug and carry on as if nothing happened. iN fact I would assume that most random small-fry EDM producers are not going thorugh the full legal route.
>he doesn't know industrial music exists
Sampling is actually pretty legally complex and getting clearance to use a sample is standard practice, but in reality most artists only really give a shit if the song using their sample is commercially successful. Artists can and have been sued for using a sample without permission.
IIRC, KMFDM once got into a lawsuit over a sample, and had to permanently remove it from a song of theirs.
the jig is up
Yeah that's never a good sign when that happens.
would bamco even waste their time pursuing legal action against third worlders?
at best they'll issue a DMCA takedown, and Steam will likely oblige. I doubt the game will be successful enough to make the Serbs worth suing
And even if they do, can't the devs just modify small details in the animation, like slightly change the angle or speed of some attacks, and then just call it "original asset"?
If we stick to the sampling comparison (which isn't super applicable but whatever), it has to be basically unrecognizable to get away with it. And the fact that people twigged onto it nearly instantly (especially with the Abyss Watcher enemy) throws that out the window.
I don't see how that could be applicable to video games, that'd be a nightmare, imagine a company owning a weapon combo and no one else can use it.
it's not really a problem because most developers just make their own animations, and most if not all lazy asset flips don't get NEARLY enough attention to actually attract the notice of the larger publishers they're stealing from.
Even if there are only so many ways to swing a sword, you're still not going to come up with the EXACT SAME animation every time unless you just copypaste them.
It's pretty easy to copy an animation without outright stealing it, and since with how the process of how animation rigs are made and set up, you can easily prove when something isn't just straight up stolen or at least so heavily altered that it's provably transformative. The best case scenario of what happened was a pajeet ripped animation files from Dark Souls 3, Elden Ring, etc (which is pretty easy to do thanks to datamining/modding tools that were released with the intent of porting assets from older From games to newer ones), slapped them on a default Unreal body, and made a bunch of different animation packs that were put up on the asset store for Unreal and because it's a random small animation pack no one bothered to report it until now, and before it got reported the Bleak Faith devs downloaded it and used it and were too retarded to notice how similar some of these animations are despite spending so much time rigging the models.
>The best case scenario is that the devs are literally retarded and had no idea what an Abyss Watcher was
Yes, that is quite literally the best case scenario. Don't attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity and all that. It's also highly unlikely.
They knew who Artorias was since he's the most famous Souls boss other than maybe O&S, and he's where that swing originally comes from
People caught on instantly because they're retarded and the Devs are marketing here.
Literally why do you care though (not a shill this game is dogshit)
I think one anon is convinced to be the first one who "cracked the case" and exposed the stolen animations so he's trying his hardest to get Bamco to give him his medal and he's considering quitting his job for a career in investigative journalist (of video gaems)
He didn't crack anything, they're assets sold on the store and he's just someone that had his girlfriend stolen by one of the devs so he's been shittalking the game for the past week up to release. Dude's a genuine cuck going insane.
Now it all makes sense
> they're assets sold on the store
They're stolen assets repackaged you dumb fuck.
FS made these in house, they didn't fucking sell them.
Some sandmoron ripped it from their games using publicly available tools and flipped on the store.
This is a dev btw.
They randomly started to say this every time this issue has come up.
BROS WE MUST ALL BUY THIS GAME BECAUSE SOON IT WILL BECOME LOST MEDIA!
It's already up on private trackers, the media'll never be lost, your game can be de-listed now 🙂
Even if the animations were 100% hand crafted this shit would still be awful.
Legitimately pity how mindbroken Nihei fans are, motherfuckers will put up with the most horrible horrible shit so long as it pays the slightest bit of homage to the Megastructure.
>Even if the animations were 100% hand crafted this shit would still be awful.
This, its literally "we got dark souls at home"
It's alright, a bit janky but the levels are pretty open and the combat system is interesting
Honestly it gives me strong DS1 vibes back when I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
0.004 Macedonian Denars have been deposited into your account.
>the combat system is interesting
The combat is fucking broken floaty nonsense, get your goofy ass out of here.
It's a shitty homage at that. Everything I saw looked like Souls levels with grass and masonry, there's no brutalism/futurism in it.
>slavshit commie third worlders make a Souls clone hoping to cash in on Soulsbucks
>steal animations directly from Souls games
>get called out instantly
>"SOULSLOP FROMDRONES FUCK MIYAHACKI FROMSLOP"
Why make a game appealing to Souls fans and then shit on Souls fans
How the fuck do you steal animations from games whose entire combat system is centered around carefully observing animations and learning how to avoid/react to them through repeated trial and error, use them in a clone of those games, and think nobody would notice?
I don't think there is a grand conspiracy here. The dev process was dragging on and at some point they decided go heavy on buying asset packs to finish it and move on. It probably started out as a fully original project but that went out the window after release dates started getting missed.
the AI art for the skill cards also points to that
Nothing wrong with that.
Let's face it this game is modern day E.Y.E and you pathetic attempt to cancel it has failed.
Its pure shit mate, I watched AssMongo playing it
You have dishonored your family!
You have offended the family of From.
Prepare to die in game.
>Making a few keyframe changes to try and pass it off as their own won't save them.
it most literally will, if its not the same its not the same
>AI voice and art is fine, fuck those garden gnomes
>doing the same with animations is a nono
you could argue that ai is generating something new
ripping animations wholesale is not
Cant copyright animations.
If we start doing that it will be gamedev-hell.
ripping animations isn't particularly hard, and if animations weren't copyrightable you can bet your ass you'd be seeing a lot more animation stealing. Do you really think a publisher like EA or Ubisoft wouldn't steal animations if they legally could?
>Cant copyright animations.
Yes you can. It's choreography, which has copyright protections.
A 4 second animation isn't enough for that, just look at all the people that tried sueing epic for stolen fortnite dances.
>a few actors (rightly) try to sue Epic for stealing dances they created themselves
>drop the cases without going to trial because Epic has vastly more money to waste on lawsuits
>another choreographer is taking his own case against Epic to a higher court because the lower court was retarded in its ruling
>A 4 second animation isn't enough for that
Choreography can be as simple as a one second sequence. There is no duration requirement for something to be considered choreography, it just needs to be a specific sequence of movements.
AI voice is a misnomer. You probably mean synthesized voice that is made to sound like a specific actor, without the actor's consent. No, it's not fine. What is fine are freely available voices and voices from actors who agree to this type of use.
but youtube poops have been a thing for ages, we've been putting words into people's mouth way before ai was a thing
It's parody, as opposed to pretending that you hired that actor.
>people making a Biden AI say "you will never be a real woman" because it's funny is the same as stealing animations, trying to sell them for profit, and then lying and saying you didn't
This thread would be completely different the gays here thought the Bleak Faith devs "trained" an "AI" off of Elden Ring to make their animations with.
The AI was just trained in Elden Ring's animation style, shitlord.
All art is auto copyrighted the moment it is created
I've been wondering if the double overhead attack that the swordspear boss does is also ripped from Monster Hunter's GS moveset
If he's innocent I feel bad for him. He got cheated and then got all the flak for it.
>still avoids the fact that he was making a souls like and bought an animation asset pack that has stolen Souls animations
There's literally no way to feign ignorance, yet he still tries
Its not their fault if the asset pack had stolen assets in. Do you think everyone is so autistic they recognize every animation from a game?
>Do you think everyone is so autistic they recognize every animation from a game?
when you say your game is inspired by "souls games" everyone is going to know where the animations come. don't tell me you're one of those braindead journalists.
I'm saying the devs themselves did not recognize the animations, they bought an legally available asset pack. How is their fault if they did not notice some of the animations were the same?
Anon, some of these animations have been recycled since fucking Demon's Souls. If you claim to make a soulslike game, but can't even recognize some of the most used animations and AT LEAST think to check with UE Store for their legitimacy, you're either retarded or intentionally trying to asset flip
just say you bought something from the asset store that was already a stolen asset, the fact that the asset store link got taken down is fucking funny though, and all that extra text is just obvious defense in shame, you don't need more than a line or 2 to explain what happened here
What a retarded reply, theres no way they didnt recognize where those animations are from
>"have been up there for years"
>Malenia's animations were one of the stolen ones, which is from a game that came out 1 year ago
lmao look at this lying gyppo
Why doesn't he link the asset store page?
He did. It got taken down, lol
but the other pack with the ripped abyss watcher animation is still up
this whole thing is fucking weird
It isn't down though?
this is the dev's response
i honestly have no idea what the fuck he's trying to say in the second paragraph
>second paragraph filled with unbelievable amounts of cope and whataboutism
>ackshually NOBODY makes their own animations so it's ok that we bought plainly stolen assets
>please ignore the 20 credited animators Elden Ring had, only two of whom weren't in-house
>the random "robert johnson" inbetween all those japs
Is this the "Robert" who's named is yell by that guy who falls off the bridge in Sekiro? Will VaatiVidya do a lore drop on this?
I wonder how the last two got involved, seems random.
I don't know what I-rori Entertainment is, but Tricrest is a Japanese support studio. They pop up on quite a few games and have been working on FROM games since Bloodborne.
I wonder how support studios work. What do they add that couldn't be added by the same people working in-house?
>mmmh we need an animation for a generic bush moving
>but our animators are busy with animating the butterflies coming out of Malenia's asscrack
>ill call my friend at wemakeanims INC and commission him to do it
Tricrest is one of Bandai's support studios, who basically just go in to help cross t's and dot i's to meet deadlines. I-rori isn't a studio but instead a company that hosts artists, animators, etc who get contracted to other companies that hire them - they've worked with Squeenix, NitroPlus, etc.
Given their low billing, they likely did pretty inconsequential stuff like rigging swaying on tree branches or doors opening.
I don't think they credited the guys who made the already existing animations they reused from des or das
probably not, but funnily enough the same guy from Tricrest is also credited on Dark Souls
Then odds are he made an animation in Dark Souls that was used for Elden Ring so they just re-credited him. From does that a lot since they reuse a lot - Kota Hoshino is still credited in Elden Ring, Bloodborne, etc despite only working on Demon's Souls because he made a sound library for Demon's Souls that is still used 15 years later.
This two-faced lying slavmoron has the gall to claim FromSofts animations were ackshually just bought from somewhere else, and they just happened to buy the same stuff too.
That's it, I want Namco to rawdog this gay. Dabbing on Miyazaki was based until he went full Balkan gypsymoron.
>Fromsoft hires teams sometimes to make animations for their games, so it's okay for us to steal those animations and copy/paste them in our game
wow, what a retard. just admit you got tricked into buying stolen assets by some third world scam artists, delay your game while you figure out how to replace them with assets that weren't stolen, and call it a day. all this cope is fucking embarrassing. i hope Bandai and From sue these fucks outta house and home for being so goddamn dim.
Today I learned that there's a whole industry of ripping assets from existing games and selling them to indie devs, basically asset laundering.
>words words words words
Just admit you bought stolen assets and pretend you didn't know, you stupid gay. Two lines are enough.
>Want to use stolen animations for your game
>Make a fake Epic account and upload the ripped files as an animation pack
>Use the animation pack for your game
>When someone notices that the animations are stolen, just say you used a pack from the Unreal store
or just say you made a proprietary "AI" to "train" with animations from other media then everyone will talk about how cool it is
>show us the AI
And then a thousand pajeets start waving money and say good morning sirs can you access the AI?
once again you dumb morons crying about muh AI:
AI would create original animations, that wouldn't be literally identical bar a few bones being moved.
This is ripped and copypasted, meaning it's the same animation.
that also just skips over the fact that machine learning programs are nowhere near the level of being able to create coherent animations when they can barely handle static images
Were the animations actually made from scratch for ER or are they pre-made assets?
The only assets not made for ER, were taken from previous Fromsoft games.
The dev is literally lying in the most shameless, moron way possible.
Yes, Fromsoftware managed to buy animations that exactly fit their lanky disproportionate character models, iframe data, signature sense of weight and recovery. Thank god Pajeet made a seven-swing halberd combo for purchase. This is a theory totally makes sense and isn't a disingenuous shill post.
No anon, you see, Miyazaki was telling us something in Artorias. He actually came from the future with asset packs from 2022 and put them into his games in 2009.
I don't think you know much about how animations work
I animate for a living, eat lead shill, no one accidentally perfectly replicated From's animation work.
Then why don't you know that most engines just let you stick events on the animation.
Iframe Data... Honestly you underages.
I don't think you know how English works, pajeet.
holy fuck this guy is still at it. Absolutely insane.
Why would FROM be using Epic marketplace animations....but not be using Unreal Engine?
Kek, this game has reached GameSlop levels of cultish and pseudointellectual behaviour all because of one schizo and his illusionary shills, this is fun to watch.
Maybe From Software used the same asset pack from Unreal Store, did you ever think about that?
the only possible scenarios is that the company that made those animations put them out for sale on the epic store
which is unplausible as fuck
Have you ever thought about sucking on a shotgun and pulling the trigger?
These are inhouse animations made by Fromsoft, not fucking unreal store assets.
Some gay just decided to rip the assets from their games and resell them to make a quick buck.
>asset pack with stolen Dark Souls 3 animations post-dates Dark Souls 3 by 5 years
From Software paid for 5 year exclusivity, and then the animator who made them put them on Unreal Asset Store.
What's the name of the pack?
Nobody believes you, slavmoron developer.
Namco's gonna rape you.
Asset packs were all uploaded after the release of the game that would supposedly have bought it for. The Lady Maria pack came out in 2021, the Lady Maria DLC is from 2015.
Given the animation pack got taken down it's not so freely accessible anymore
Gee, I wonder why
I haven't played BB but aren't these from Lady Maria? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/pn-gunandsword
>those fucking terrible demo videos
just fucking center the camera on the model and play the animations, jesus christ
>It's not stealing.
>It's not tracing.
here are the banished knight ones
posted months after ER's release lmao
It's a spear, how else would you animate it????
Pretty easy to animate a spear and not make it look like a sluggish zombie swinging around a 50lb pole in the exact same way FromSoftware did it months prior.
i'm not a retard, so i wouldn't use stolen animations
>check other videos from that channel
every fucking time
Any "we just didn't notice" valid excuse went out the window with their official responses.
>Miyazaki reuses animations too!!!
Hope they get fucked.
The one tiny detail they missed was Miyazaki reuses animations from his previous games.
The fact that they actually went with "Miyazaki doesn't own these animations", is so astoundingly retarded, it's almost respectable.
It's really easy to prove it's Fromsoft's property, lmao. I hope the Serb isn't actually that fucking clueless, though he is a slav...
It's not easy at all. They would have to prove that they are literally exactly the same files straight from Elden Ring, and good luck doing that after they've been ripped and imported and re-exported multiple times.
>It's not easy at all.
Yes it is, hence the thread.
>prove that they are literally exactly the same files
No they don't, they just have to show how they're obviously identical, and how you can change formats and adjust bones to explain any differences.
You can get away with stealing animations if you change them sufficiently, but not when the thing doesn't pass the fucking eyeball test and it has very little variance between the og and the edited rip.
why didn’t they steal from a lesser known game? Why did they steal from a recent game that everyone played and your game is inspired by so all your players probably played it
Double digits IQ most likely
its not a crime to unknowingly buy stolen goods
There were a myriad of commits calling out that the animations were stolen. They knowingly bought stolen goods.
you cant prove we knew they were stolen
>you cant prove WE knew they were stolen
ESLs, never change.
You're in the thread, thusly you know it's stolen.
I'm sure this line will work in court too, gay dev.
Everyone who has played a Souls game recognizes that katana swing and the incredibly distinct Artorias overhand flip swing. Souls games are literally built around studying animations to learn how to react to them
Except you can't copyright flipping and even if they intentionally recreated exactly the same flip frame by frame, the plaintiffs would still have no case unless they can prove that they are literally derived from the same file as the original animation. The 1s and 0s that constitute the game data is copyrighted material, but the motions of an animation are not protected by copyright
they literally are, choreography is copyrighted
Except in the law that allows choreography to be copyrighted material, they explicitly explain that individual motions are not copyrightable. It'd have to be something like an entire dance routine copied verbatim.
ok cool, this isn't just individual motions, it's an entire animation set lifted wholesale
You know, that's arguable enough that it might genuinely be worth going to trial to settle it. Unfortunately, it'll be in an American court which means the richer side will win.
Bandai Namco and/or Kadokawa are a lot richer than two Bosnians who can't even write a half-baked PR statement.
>it'll be an American court
>neither party is American
Being sold on an American-owned storefront. If any legal action does happen beyond a C&D, what would happen is Bandai Namco would seek legal action in the U.S., the EU, and wherever else they particularly give a shit that happens to also be a region the game is being sold in.
>they explicitly explain that individual motions are not copyrightable
You're correct that individual motions are not copyrightable, but these aren't just individual motions. These are full-on sequences of choreography with weapon swings and elaborate poses, and in animation it's even more easy to copyright choreography since every single part of it is intentional and choreographed. IRL you can't copyright your jacket or something swinging around from a dance move, but you easily could use that as part of a copyright for an animation of someone dancing.
>but the motions of an animation are not protected by copyright
You morons keep saying this and not realizing sequenced movements are choreography which is 100% copyrightable. Epic couldn't even use this defense in the lawsuits about them using popular dances that ARE copyrighted, they just financially strained any plaintiffs until they were forced to settle out of court or go bankrupt. And one of them, Kyle Hanagami, is still pursuing litigious action.
>it's just a flip!
How dumb do you think people are? It's the exact same attack
wtf that's just an abyss watcher from dark souls 3
cut the shit. if you could just rip animations from other games, upload them to Epic's Marketplace via a VPN, and then download them to put in your own game under the guise of having gotten tricked into paying for stolen assets, that shit would be happening all over the fucking industry. ESPECIALLY in fighting games and Soulslikes. these devs are got caught, it's fuckin' over. either they bought stolen assets on purpose, or they're too retarded to recognize stolen assets because they don't actually *play* games from the genre they're aping.
>tl;dr suck my dick from the back you gypsy fuck
>cut the shit
lol you're mad. why are you so emotionally invested in this? I'm just explaining how copyright law works.
I'm fully aware. But that means it'll be stonewalled until the indie devs give up and settle and no actual case law will be resolved.
It's being sold on Steam.
>I'm fully aware. But that means it'll be stonewalled
How would it be stonewalled? They have a clear cut case and the lawyer power to scare the devs into going "Yep, sure, we'll fuck off" if found necessary.
What's more likely is a C&D they'll immediately acquiesce to.
yeah I got it backwards there, I haven't had my fifth coffee yet.
you don't know a fuckin' thing about copyright law you shifty two-bit garden gnome
all you'd have to do to prove it is see if either of them bought Dark Souls 3 and beat Abyss Watchers
even if the assets in the animation pack weren't stolen, which they probably were, you shouldn't give money to creatively bankrupt douchebags who can't be bothered to animate their own game
if it was a free fan game, then whatever, but they are trying to make a buck off of the work of others so fuck em
>its okay when AAA industry reuse assets
>its wrong for an indie team to reuse assets
>what do you mean we can't steal another dev's assets? They use their own assets, it's the same thing!
It's okay when a studio reuses their own assets. It's gypsy behavior to use another studio's assets uncredited after paying a chink to rip them for you.
How about I just "reuse" the money in your bank account, friend.
>Ganker will slurp corporate cock and shut some team down
Who cares if they stole animations from Elden Ring?
If you're gonna steal, be subtle and earnest about it or be willing to admit to your mistakes. If he just said "We should've paid better attention, we're pulling the game and replacing the animations from this asset pack creator, get your refunds while you can, sorry" he'd be shit on but far less aggressively. Instead he made up 15 different excuses before settling on "b-but Miyazaki didn't hand-craft these animations themselves so it's okay" and basically admittedto just using stolen assets meaning he's a spineless gay and also socially retarded, so he warrants the humiliation.
It's on epic not him.
>If he just said "We should've paid better attention,
He can't even do that because the animations he used are so absurdly distinct that anyone who's ever played a Souls game recognizes them instantly, and he made a Souls clone game. There is no plausible way that he wouldn't recognize one of the most distinct attack animations from one of the most well known bosses in the franchise that people liked so much that it was then transferred to the player's moveset when they get his sword for all three games it's in and even one it isn't in
This is a super child take. Most people making souls clones probably don't even play games, let alone be invested enough to reach whichever Boss that is unless it's the first one or something.
a truly baffling argument
This is some of the most pathetic, desperate damage control I've ever seen in my life
Kid, I don't even know what game artorias is from let alone his attacks. It's more common than you think.
and did you make a video game specifically evoking the Dark Souls series?
No, my hobby is making genshin rip off models without ever having actually played genshin past five minutes.
Playing dumb doesn't work when you're caught red handed, you big dumpling
The thing that will fuck them in court is them not giving a shit when they found out the assets were stolen and trying to argue FS didn't make them.
Still the dev, btw.
Maybe your lawyer can say #Transrights in court? That could work.
serbs truly are the strongest race
Devs should spend the money they earned (?) on a fucking lawyer.
I’m tired of the shills defending this
Let’s write a letter to Bandai/From with video evidence to get the lawsuit going
Agreed. We'll write the letter one word at a time. I'll start:
shillbros... we need a response now!
It was rotoscoping!!
Ah, brings me back to genshin threads where people were calling for a lawsuit because Noelle was running like 2B and the claymore behaved the same.
Never change Ganker
>The same dude they bought their animations from has had prior work taken down due to copyright infringement
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE SHOULD HAVE READ THE REVIEWS BEFORE WE PURCHASED SOMETHING FROM A PERSIAN GYPSY ON AN ASSET STORE
>animator turned out to be a serial infringer of many many assets
>all of them were From Software assets
>dev is now silent for hours on this
this keeps getting better. How long until the shills disappear?
I really wonder if all of the animations from the PersiaNinja guy are in Bleak Faith and no one's noticed yet because most people aren't playing past the first hour
Patch notes from today's update
-Locked FPS to 90FPS maximum, 60 FPS default (and recommended).
-Controllers default binding after reading feedback. (If you can't properly reset to default setting, try deleting C:UsersUSERNAMEAppDataLocalForsakenSavedSaveGamesSettingsGamepad.sav)
-Giants no longer deal 100% of players health, instead deal set damage, which can be further mitigated by your armor.
-Removed start animations from unarmed movement to reduce impulse on initial movement.
-Redesigned the climbing section in the Monastery as it was causing issues.
-Improved readability of some areas in the Monastery with slight changes to map layout.
-Other smaller changes.
Good thing they reworked the giants
>lowering FPS to fix physics
Is this ps360 game? Are we in 2009?
DS2 had the same issue, if you used 60 fps the durability of your weapons would be reduced twice by each hit
That's taking copying Fromsoft to a whole other level.
>reusing animations from anime ring
Those were the worst animations ever put on a souls game. Can't wait for the 20 ton monster to stay in the air for 1 minutes while i too stay in the air for 5 unleashing my powerful katana folded 10 times over
But enough about God of War
Don't care. Still has better World/Level design than every single other Soulsclone to come out that just copied Souls' dog shit combat while forgetting the fact that they are adventure games first.
somebody hasn't played Nioh.
Nioh is above Souls gayry on the action game ladder. It doesn't even have remotely similar level design to be considered a Soulsclone. It's mission based.
>goal post status: moved
this cope is old moron. take team ninja's cock out of your mouth, they shoved demon souls mechanics into ninja gayden and called it a day
>this shitfest got shilled on Ganker for two entire weeks
where are the threads with all the trailers and screenshot dumps now?
I think all their budget went into making cool cutscenes and trailers
shame that the rest is dogshit
all the budget went to a chink ripping assets from Elden Ring lol
stop noticing things
excuse me sir this animation was taken from a publicly avaliable asset pack that was up on the epic games store for 10 years
>Notice me bamco-senpai
Can't wait for fags to spam this shit when people complain about it being asset flips
>look up on twitter to see if people complain about the flips
>more people are pissed they dared to us AI images
Can we nuke this fucking timeline
>Indie soulsclone turns out to be shit
name one good one
Salt and Sanctuary
2D, therefore not a soulsshit clone
garbage floaty piece of shit
There aren't any, Salt and Sanctuary comes close but I can't get past the fuck-ugly artstyle and completely uninspired world
Back to Ashes
Still waiting on games inspired by DbtS or S:BoD to resurface and laugh at people that would call them souls games.
i watched Asmongold react to a couple trailers for this game the other day, i look forward to watching him react to a video essay about how the devs stole assets from FromSoft in the coming days. lmao
SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE ASSET PACK
fromdrones are seething a random russian slav made a better game with their own fucking assets lmfao
Everyone is pointing and laughing at this hilarious trashfire of an asset flip you delusional gay lmao
fromchuds get the rope
please check the discord the shitpost directives have changed. If you're Mike I'll tell the mods you're late on reading the rules channel again
>links being taken down on their discord
>shill who spent the last week working this board for free only to see the game crash and burn in real time
you can tell we're nearing the end of this arc if all the shills have left to post are "WHO CARES"
should I buy this before it truly gets taken down? looks like a fun game after all is said and done
Pirate it, shill
just grab the magnet from a few threads back
spoiler: it's not good
Post yfw you didnt fall for the shilling
>used the money to buy another garbage game in its place anyway
Miyazaki would be proud
well I guess I'm glad the shazammies got someone else to dress like Elden Ring for them so they can enjoy this one
They plan on a console release or nah? don't give a rat's ass about the asset drama. just think it looks pretty cool.
>They plan on a console release or nah?
they cant even afford controllers
Frombucks defending their shit games instead of playing this masterpiece
>I dont care it looks cool
>I dont care it looks great
>I dont care it looks fun
you're not being very subtle, shills
Idk why people even thought it looked worthwhile, LITERALLY just dark souls
People finding the animations are copied makes it pretty funny ngl
it's really not, just the lack of an iframe dogeroll makes it unique enough imo
it's a shame that its good / interesting ideas are going to be dragged down by the jank / technical flaws
not to mention the plagarism stuff
souls clones are so common it's now its own genre.
>literally rip off not only abyss watchers movesets, but have the exact same armor design
>"btw we are not even influenced by souls"
this is what is so deHispanicable about these roaches, just like how they conducted their awful awful shilling here on Ganker
every fucking one replied to their threads calling out the shills and instead of owning up to him honorably, they doubled down with the lying and denying
profoundly dishonest, scummy team of third world plagiarist scammers
and what this really highlights is the mindset of third worlders and why everyone hates them, serbs pajeets chinks all the same
what it highlights is how low IQ they are because they can't even understand consequences of action, the notion of bad reputation and burning bridges, instead if they had frontran the accusations by admitting to the stealing or the shilling, the souls loving community would have understand and given them a chance because >muh 2 devs
even if you're only in it to make money, being honest and virtuous and apologetic with your audience instead of trying to falsify and scam them is often the most profitable strategy, you keep seeing that with small flawed indie devs becoming cult classics simply because the devs behaved honorably, but that's something you repeatedly see third worlders unable to grasp, scamming and fucking each other over is all they know
it's not about the product being shit, it's in their behavior and cultural DNA
You just know this fucker looks like a gigajawed ghoul irl
>verification not required
I notice calling people who were calling out the shilling schizos or one person has mysteriously stopped
the resident shill lost all arguments since devs are going nanking and erasing their stolen assets evidence
>tfw we were the shills all along
there was one guy that was extremely obsessed with serbians who still looks like a crazy guy but now there's real reasons to shit on this
Where's that guy who kept saying everyone shitting on this trainwreck is one obsessed guy who got cucked by one of the devs lol
That was literally one of the devs, lol.
Kinda obvious when you realize that they kept saying
>muh Bosnian penis stole his gril haehae what a chad dev
Reminder that the developer actively shills here
>15 hours of content
So... I've played around one hour and a half of it, Pirated of course
I've opened like 3 shortcuts to the starting area
+The art direction is really carrying the whole experience, it's really fucking cool for what they could manage to do with it, medieval architecture + dystopic city hyper structure it's great
+Exploration and world design are really fucking nice, they did their homework, it feels rewarding and mysterious
+Tone and atmosphere is okay, but it still feels like typical unreal game
it kinda feels like playing EYE divine Cybermancy
-The combat is ass, I can't take it, Thymesia has far better combat, there's too much "weight" on what should be fluid combat
-The jank, jesus it's so fucking janky, the jumping, the strafing, the the camera handles in action is very uncomfortable, the way collision works is like random and out of place
-the menus and interface are strapped poorly
I mean they can patch it and polish it, but this is no way to deliver a game, the combat is really essential, I wish I could play this on the Elden Ring engine, unironically
>Fromsoft actually bought their animations for Elden Ring from Epic Games
>ignore how the packs were created after the release of Elden Ring
now, I can levy a lot of complaints about their game development practices, but that's absurd
one of the biggest issues in Souls games is that the assets are so god damned hard coded that modding a souls game is a fucking nightmare, it's all spaghetti, up and down
>wanna install multiple Elden Ring mods
>basically get told to go fuck myself unless i wanna learn some incredibly esoteric method
they really are a mess
Yeah, the guys that have been using the same sound effects library since fucking King's Field are the same ones outsourcing all their work on every new project to a bunch of unrelated contractors.
Random dudes in India just happened to submit them the same dog rigging and attack animations that have appeared in their last five fucking games.
what here's actually wrong? I see people claiming fromsoftware can't possibly do what every other studio does because....? They have animators like every other studio?
>everyone outsources animations including fromsoft
>this is why its ok to directly rip off animations from other games
outsourcing != stealing assets
intellectual property is a gnomish myth
>muh precious 1s and 0s
cool, still gonna pirate everything
>piracy and stealing assets is the same
log off for today
You're right, piracy is more honest
"MUH ASSETS" is NFTbro tier cope
t. developer of Strange Rope Hero Freddy's Night 6 and Sponge Man Run Adventure
ctrl c and ctrl v a game onto Steam, see how that works out for you
this bros gonna seethe when they take his game down until he replaces those animations lmao
ok pajeet. still not buying your asset flip phone games
Well for one, he claims that From rely on "thousands of contracted artists" when Elden Ring only had TWO outside animators contribute.
So the whataboutism falls flat basically immediately.
Paying someone to create new assets for your game is not the same as paying for existing assets ripped from another game. How do you people not understand this
>all those hearts
are souls morons that starved where they will play LITERAL recycled slop.. embarrassing
God, that really is just a shameless ripoff of Cibo but with a terrible head on it.
And I was looking forward to this game too. What a shame.
>still has hope a game will be good
yeah but the Abyss Watcher skeleton is almost identical too lmao
>we didn't steal animations
>the animations might have been stolen but we didn't know
>other people steal animation too
>rotoscoping is not stealing
they're coping at an alarming rate
It's only a matter of time until Bamco grabs them by the balls. Unless they just take the money and run.
Instead of buying this game, I just spent 50€ and ordered a lightstick for a kpop group I love very much. It even comes with 7 photocards. Seemed like a better deal to be honest
If this game was:
>Had used its own assets
>Had a proper art and design team
It could have been a great game, but instead we get this janky mess with a game world that is interesting, even if only because it is clearly inspired by Blame!
So my take on this is:
>I'm glad that I pirated
>I probably won't waste any more time in it
>Lets hope that From Software someday makes a Blame! inspired Souls game.