how much longer before discs just cease to exist
how much longer before discs just cease to exist
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There is a big push by 2030.
>Buy disc game
>It's the previous gen version of the game
>Have to download the whole fucking ass thing and keep the CD in the tray to check for license
Physical media is fucking worthless anyways.
Only if you buy Microsoft and Sony garbage. I can't believe you "people" still do this and haven't moved on to a PC or Switch.
You will own NOTHING.
I'm never going to buy any console.
I own my entire digital library, plus back-ups. You own a physical CD, but not the information on it.
>>I own my entire digital library, plus back-ups. You own a physical CD, but not the information on it.
You realize I own digital back ups AND physical media. Yes, I own the cart but don't own the copyrighted program and neither do you.
Why would you want the OLED version? Also they've been saying "Switch Pro" for like 6 years now. What's crazy about Nintendo hardware is that it doesn't devalue like other hardware so you'd be able to sell it back.
I don't get what I'm looking at. Is this just a list of mediocre games?
I'm thinking about getting a switch but I dislike how there's always rumors of a new better version coming out. Am I safe to buy the oled version or is there going to be a switch 2.0 or pro within the next year.
no one knows for sure but there's a lot of rumblings about a new console or revision coming out next year
no rush right now so no harm in waiting. If there IS a better version we'll know in time for tears of the kingdom for sure.
Ah yeah just how Tears of the Kingdom was supposed to be the launch title for the next Nintendo console, right?
Just buy the OLED dude, there’s been rumors of a switch pro since 2018.
No thanks garden gnome, I like owning things.
>I like owning things
Then why are you on a cucked closed source black box toy which can be bricked on a whim by a corporation
I guarantee you use windows
>Woops lost your disc, guess you don't own it anymore
Keep repeating your super mega own line, fag
The physical collection is still there.
>Woops lost my disc
>I'll just emulate it/get the rom now
Switch games aren’t on your drm carts either.
2 more weeks
Discs are just pandering to consoomers who want to horde worthless objects.
>have a disk
>have a console
>can play as much as you want until either your disc is destroyed
>play games until your sub runs out
>have digital downloads tied to online account
>get banned for wrongthink
>now have games that cannot be transferred
I have several vac bans and can still play all those games
same I have a bunch on my ps3 on a banned account but once it dies I'm basically shit out of luck. not like I can transfer my shit onto a new ps3. at least with my discs I can just get a new one no problems.
My steam account has been vac banned in 2 games and I can still play them. Not sure what you're getting at anon.
He probably saw a screencap of someone getting a Steam community ban for calling someone a moron and thought that terminated their account.
We're going back to cartridges
Feels good man
They kind of already are no shot you're playing whatever's on that disk.
There was a brief period when companies experimented with shipping empty boxes but it didn't work, it was a mental thing. People when to a real store and exchanging money for a box 'need' to get something real (even though they're happy to just get a code for steam).
next gen for sure. sony's apparently ps5 slim will have a separate disc drive attachment and presumably the next gen we won't even get that. microsoft will go all in on game pass and probably never release another actual console.
>xbox series z
>it's just a chromecast
I still stand by my thought that the PS5 Slim is the "real" PS5. Just from a design perspective it looks much more aesthetic than the disc version which looks like it just got a tooth pulled and is suffering from the swelling of the extraction.
its not the slim, just a new sku that will become the one and only sku going forward. Sony doesn't want to have the disc and non disc option, they want one SKU and if you want a disc drive you can buy it separately for an additional fee.
This makes sense. Also I'm pretty sure you can backup your games if you want to, so the whole idea of you not being able to keep your games goes out the window. The only argument at that point is you just want to have a shelf with cases you can look at. I also think the Xbox has the option for backups too.
How much do you think they'll sell the disc drive for?
>How much do you think they'll sell the disc drive for?
The rumor is they will have a bundle including it or you can just buy it separately. As for price idk. They'll probably make the bundle the same price as the current PS5 disc edition and the non bundle 50 or so USD cheaper
>small janky games already have no disc's
Is this a consolefag joke I'm too rich to understand?
I stopped buying discs not because I don't like physical media but because I had to fucking download the game anyways. Gone are the days of just putting the game in and playing.
>I stopped buying discs not because I don't like physical media but because I had to fucking download the game anyways
You made the logical move anon.
I hope soon
I burn all of my steam games to disc just to have on the shelf.
I have 3900 steam games and got about 900 burned so far
>PC abandoned physical years ago
>Indies rarely if at all do physical releases
>AA and AAA only
>All while having to download patches and updates anyway
I don't like it but it is what it is.
>download cracked game
>burn it to a disc
here, my physicial game
I have a ps5 so idk what it's like on xbox but I bought the steelbox version of the new mw2 and I still had to download it anyways despite a disc being in the console.
I forgot to add, yes the disc has to remain in the console in order to play despite the giant download.
>100gb patches every few weeks
>please reinsert the disk
Do codfags really?
depends on the game. I bought dead space for series x and it installed from the disc
Last time I bought a physical game was 2007 (Brink).
So what is Nintendo going to do? Keep using cartridges for the next 25 years? Are they really going to stay this far behind?
Far behind what? You still need physical hardware for storage. You literally need an external HDD or SSD on GayStation and Gaybox since every game is a bloated 100GB mess. The Switch uses MicroSD cards, but very few games go beyond 30GB. An all digital future is only something lazy retards want.
Nintendo still doesn't even give people >100GB of storage out of the box.
No physical no buy, simple as
Xbox will prob do it for furst so they can sell these overpriced things.
But don't you see? The answer is RIGHT THERE. They can sell little 50-100 GB versions of those little Seagate SSDs that have one (1) game on them, you can laser engrave the logo of the game somewhere, or print some shit on the plastic, and you can probably sell it in a little cassette tape sized case. Think about it.
>Xbox releases a new model, either a midrange one or an S with the specs of X or greater
>No disc tray, people start getting pissed (or there still is one, it's irrelevant to the hypothetical)
>The console's a little bit taller and longer, with a divet at the bottom
>Two bonus SSD slots, looking like PS Memory Cards
>You can buy games at stores now in those little boxes
>Retailers love them because there's more shelf space (Coomlectors will probably dig it too)
>You get the fast loading times of digital, freed up space on your console's hard drive and the entire game on there with no downloads because they can fit the whole thing onto the SSD easily
>Microsoft is happy because they don't have to pay Sony royalties for printing their games on Blu-Ray
>Their marketing will be into it because after a generation of homogenisation, they now have a completely unique iconography and user experience
>morons, Methheads and your trashy cousins are happy because these games are now much harder to damage by just having them lying around the loungeroom, ie they can flip last year's Madden for weed much easier, which goes back into retailers loving it
I feel like I'm going CRAZY because no one else has seemed to point this out.
in a perfect world this would be a thing but in our retard clown world even if they did something like that they would probably charge out the ass for it.
they dont want you owning physical media, they want you to stream everything so they can control the tides of media and what you are exposed to.
Obviously physical media is something these "people" wanna phase out, obviously we're in clown world, but if we can continue with the Perfect World scenario, Sony's strategy of being a loss leader with any new medium seems to work out pretty well for them, like the Blu-Ray with the PlayStation. You could print them in increments of USB sizes roughly (16, 32, 64, 128) and start by selling successful smaller indy games for a really good price to ease people into the experience of actually taking the thing home and putting it in. And with the actual guts of it being that small to start with, you might not even be selling at a loss. Of course you can ramp it up as time goes on.
Just use MicroSD cards.... We are at $60 for 1TB. People are so genuinely fucking retarded that they think these Microsoft branded cards are a good deal.
That would be the better idea obviously, but of course Microsoft would want the new medium they co-created. And they're not even going to do that.
That's just the retail price for a microSD card. You can have much cheaper flash storage media. You can also make it a lot less expensive, by removing the controller from the storage device and make it a part of the console. Not saying they've done it, but it could be a thing for the next generation.
Since they're trying to kill phyiscal media though, making all consoles digital only seems like the more likely scenario.
Nobody's doing it because they're fucking expensive out the ass compared to printing discs
xbox brought back memory cards and no one is talking about it
Next gen is going to be digital only. They already might as well be download keys in boxes like what Steam did 13 years ago
They'll probably disappear eventually for gaming, though they'll hold on longer then you'd think as getting a blu ray worth of data to somebody is cheaper then then downloading it in a lot of places.
In general they'll still exist when you're old and dying. You can still buy floppy disks manufactured in 2023, and Tape storage is still one of the best ways to store things long term.
They might as well not exist. At this point if you buy the physical version you're being cucked hard. Granted you are still able to share games, or resell them (though I'd argue being able to resell games only matters if it wasn't a good game to begin with). But now you need to swap discs to play the game, and hopefully nothing happens to the disc. Nowadays the disc is just a 1.0 version that has to be installed anyways. Sure, it can technically be ran without internet, or when the servers eventually go down, but given modern gaming, would it really be worth it? Playing the buggy, day zero version of the game (not to mention some don't even ship the whole game without a day one patch), hoping there wasn't any decent downloadable content, and still being at the mercy of a plastic disc?
Honestly have to laugh at the game preservation people who pretend physical is worth a damn for "preservation" efforts. Can't tell if they're retarded, or simply don't want to piss off their corporate overlords by mentioning emulation.
Gaben will never do me wrong
The only reason to use the disc drive on the current consoles is if you have previous gen games you want to play. I can tell you right now that all of the ps5 games I've bought physically so far just force you to download the entire game off the internet anyways, and for MK11 Ultimate you don't even get the game, it's only the base game and you have to redeem a dlc coupon to upgrade to Ultimate that will then be downloaded. And it's fucking loud despite not using the disc.
I believe the big reason why anyone is still using discs at all on the PS5 and XBox Series X is because of the "idea" that they own the game they paid for. Of course, today we have the option to back our games up and go from there, and like you mentioned games are still by and large downloaded from the internet anyway. Basically I agree with you that, unless you have a console that plays last gen games, there's no real purpose for this anymore.
>I believe the big reason why anyone is still using discs at all on the PS5 and XBox Series X is because of the "idea" that they own the game they paid for.
>digital download retails for the same amount as a physical copy
imagine taking out the middle man (retailers) and still paying full pop for a video game. absolute retardation. if I'm still paying full price I am at least getting a disc out of it.
You don't wait for sales or use discount codes?
whenever I buy digital its at massive discounts, like 90% or more.
if its a game I'm looking forward to I usually buy it right away. there hasnt been a game like that in a long time
The reason why digital games stay at the same MSRP as physical is because it's part of actual regulation within the entertainment industry to not fuck over physical retailers. If digital copies were even 10% cheaper across the board then nobody would ever go buy a boxed copy ever again (which is what was happening to the used games market until companies like EA and Ubisoft began pushing out those online passes, a bit of ancient history for you), so both forms of distribution are treated with the same value up front to ensure they can co-exist.
>asscreed vallhala license issue and removed from gamepass
>how much longer before discs just cease to exist
I will ALWAYS BUY PHYSICAL
why dont they just do digital rentals at this point
i'd bet most people don't play like 90% of the games on these huge catalogs
It's discfags fault for rejecting DAT
Piratechads enjoy the best of both worlds without having to pay a dime.
enjoy the malware
hasnt been a thing since 1999, also private trackers
So much for yar har.
It's starting to get annoying to backup all my games. I have over 4tb of installers for games at this point.
>just delete shit
Nope, not gonna redownload shit. I'd rather have it all backed up.
Finish a game first before you download another one and quit in 10 minutes, that'll save you storage space.
>Dust off PS3 for the first time in years
>Throw in Time Crisis Razing Storm
>"Huh? Oh that's right, it needs to install. 3 gb isn't that much."
>Finishes after a full hour
>You can't use the console for anything else while it's installing or even turn it off
>By the time it finished I didn't want to play anymore
Is there any actual reason to buy physical media? I can't think of any. If anything it just makes you look like an autistic retard.
"You see, I get up, and then I insert this plastic, and then the console tells the server I have usage rights!. I really own my game™ this way."
That's not how physical media works on a Nintendo console. Keep Sneeding, Chudite.
Nobody would have a problem with disks going away if we could resell our digitally owned games
The only reason to own a console over a PC is being able to collect physical games for it. That’s literally it.
I played on PC from 2010 til 2022, mostly pirated games. Last year I picked up a PS4 slim for $100 for BB and ended up collecting physical games and replaying stuff on it.
2 things I learned:
>30fps and lower settings are fine
>collecting physical media and having a physical representation of the games you've played feels good
Now I'm thinking of also playing 7th gen games on my PS3 and building up a collection.
You're wrong but if you're happy my opinion doesn't matter.
Cheers, have a good night.
Discs will never go away. Never.
No discs means no retail sales, meaning retailers will also refuse to sell your consoles because why would they? Why would they bother stocking and handling your consoles just do you can fuck them over by garden gnomeing them out of a cut of game sales?
They'll just sell code cards.
No one buys those. No one. Whoever thinks people buy those are so out of touch with reality it's not even funny. People buy physical to actually OWN their game. To have something for their collection, something that actually retains value.
There is zero point in buying a "physical" code
Oh no. It's not as if Sony and Microsoft cant just make literal apps on the PC, tablets, and phones (for cloud gaming) and offer their games there so they can fuck with Walmart and Gamestop if they refuse to sell their consoles and games with download codes in them. SURELY there is nothing Sony and Microsoft can do to counter what you're talking about.
Try reading and then reformulating your incoherent rant, retarded beaner.
I think he's saying they can do a PlayStation app and an Xbox app and not need retailers in the first place. Which isn't wrong, but would probably be too big of a step for next gen.
At the very least Nintendo will very likely combust into a wave of flames before they ever considering not using physical media. CDs, cartridges, or whatever.
You can cope all you want, but the reality is that it will NEVER happen. Physical is never going away.
But hey, you should try asking Microsoft how telling your consumers "stay online or fuck off" worked out for them.
I'm not sure what's going on with you, but if that's how you feel about the future of games, OK. I'm not going to argue with you.
You can't argue with me because I'm right and you know it.
You're a fucking loser and in 10 years you'll still be here,seething and making threads about "2 more weeks until physical games die"
Oh I know what this is now. It was my mistake for taking those replies seriously.
Have PS5s without disc drive ever been in short supply?
Yes but only because the disc version is even more scarce. It's literally the cope purchase
>how much longer before discs just cease to exist
That's the day I quit vidya and I'll stick to that principle
What's next a gym that you pay membership for but can't go in?
This shit would not fly in other business models.
>buy physical copy of game
>instruction booklet and card with a code to download the game
Never happened with my Japanese games
Return to store and demand a refund. You paid for a physical product that can be freely traded and resold. What you got was a license to rent for an indeterminate duration.
>he bought a shitch