Most musicians are weird nerds. Even a lot of professionals. This idea seems to come from 70s and 80s rock stars. I just want my bard to study folk history and play the songs of hero’s, battles fought long ago, heartbreak and murder ballads.
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The idea comes from centuries of people using poetry and song to seduce and frick b***hes.
Hyper-brave adventurers is moronic.
Most people are boring normies. Even a lot of cave explorers. This idea seems to come from 70s and 80s rock collectors. I just want my character to study women's studies and play the songs of rappers, opps fought long ago, twerk and street ballads.
I’d much rather have unrealistically brave characters than uncomfortable sexual ones
Meme culture has ruined bards forever. Whenever I want to play a bard the GM always gives me this worried look.
I would rather deal with a musical autist then a murderhobo
Nothing is stopping you
With you to a large part. I prefer to see bards played as scholars and skalds for the most part. That said, they're traveling folk with a talent for music. They're probably going to use it to get laid. That's normal enough. I draw the line at "I seduce le dragon xD" tier shit.
But as above anon says, nothing is stopping you. Go play the character you want to play instead of complaining nobody else is.
>70s and 80s
In which century?
Because we know for a fact that Mozart fricked.
Yeah the average 5e player is definitely basing their bard off of Mozart and ancient Greeks and not a fantasy Robert plant. Totally.
>fantasy Robert plant
So... Robert Plant?
Beat me to it
I think it comes from minstrels being itinerant and often being relatively unsupervised in the company of high born women as teachers and entertainers. In the context of bard as lore keeper and storyteller it's totally ridiculous though. Celtic and Scandinavian bards and skalds were more in the class of priest, diplomat, and politician. Which is not to say they didn't frick but it was hardly their defining trait.
Musicians and actors have been acknowledge to have loose morals since the Roman times you fricking spaz.
There's a reason they were considered interchangeable with prostitutes.
I wanna be a magical archaeologist, delving ruins and exploring chasms and shit. I hate that music and performance is so tied to the bard class.
3e did this best with all the variants. I don't remember the exact variation but there was one that told you to dump most of the music, replace some of it with inspirational speech, and boosted exploration and knowledge skills.
Man, 3e had some great material. Too bad it was so bloated and unbalanced when it came to tiers of power.
I suppose that's just how the game goes when you have so much stuff. Can't all be homeruns.
Yeah, agreed. If I were ever to run 3e again it would be heavily curated. Sold all my shit and went back to OSR and BRP though so meh.
I play all my bards as rakish noblemen and dilletantes.
It's cause the rabble started focusing on sex and drugs and rock&roll. Technical talent and traditions go out the window when you focus on lesser things. The rockstar popularity trickled into the minion minds of the masses and ruined bards as a whole.
Yeah well the modern bard is a pansexual rock star that fricks animals so get with the program, chud. Don't make me flag your game for Offensive Content.
Everything that became the iconic behaviour of d&d archetypes is moronic:
The bard that fricks anything that moves,
the beefhead mongoloid barbarian with moron strength,
the quirky thief that pickpockets party members,
the chaotic neutral whatever that acts like a psychotic moron effectly one upping actual chaotic evil psychos,
The lawful autistic paladin continually dectecting evil and alignments of every pc or noc he mets,
Le scottish dwarf drunkard #12345670970865...
The nth drizzt clone
Etc...
Those are lowest common denominator behaviours that in a way or another everyone has encountered at least once because d&d is babby first ttrpg and teenegers to 26yo dudes that don't need any depth in roleplaying to have fun.
I don't know what is worse, the barbarian who constantly fricks things up because he thinks playing a raging moron is funny when any sane party would kick his ass to the curb after the first incident, the chaotic stupid moron who justifies his shitty actions to not drop to chaotic evil, the thief who steals others weapons or the Mcguffin again for the lols or the autistic paladin who again justifies his shitty behavior because "I have god and the law on my side" and somehow never falls despite violating the spirit of the rules and never living up to them to the best of his ability.
Bards should, by all historical accounts, be played as spies. They were privy to overhearing all sorts of conversations when playing for nobility or royals. They travelled about so it wasn't weird to see a new bard in the hall, so they weren't considered suspicious. And they would spread stories where they went, so they were good at remembering information over the long term. A bard was in a perfect position to slip into high society and go mostly unnoticed while gathering intel.