Trannies
I think the mod had an option to control what path that faction chooses to go down so they dont do that (aka like all other factions with giant focus trees lol) but it appears they have since removed it
The entire mod is trash. It stops being Fallout the moment these Black folk focus on Canada and Mexico to add their OG Donut Steel factions over regions that actually have lore in canon. Not to mention the gay ass EU4 wannabe economic system.
I think it's fun. They have to fill out the map somehow. Lot's of new lore is quite good, troll warren, TV Town, Eagle's Rock, Texas Brotherhood, Attis Remanents. Seems respecful of the canon and rarely outright contradicts it if ever.
I don't mind them filling the map. I don't even mind them adding the Desert Rangers from Wasteland to flesh out Arizona. But adding Mexico isn't filling the map, since Mexico isn't even supposed to be on the fricking map. Don't equate Texas lore with Mexican lore, since Texas at least actually appears in a game no matter how shit it is.
The entire mod is trash. It stops being Fallout the moment these Black folk focus on Canada and Mexico to add their OG Donut Steel factions over regions that actually have lore in canon. Not to mention the gay ass EU4 wannabe economic system.
>OG Donut Steel factions over regions that actually have lore
this x100
also tech levels are sometimes nonsensical
like how the frick is heaven's gate more advanced than the brotherohod who've been pilfering tech for a century, NCR which took over navarro and presumably acquired at least something of value there, shi (self explanatory), and FRICKING VEGAS, whose leader invented half the stuff that's IN the tech tree
they did my boy house dirty because his path doesn't even have the option to unlock advanced stuff in the late game
Is House even a proper robotics engineer? Like, did he do any of the work or was it all the people under his employ. If he could do anything himself he probably wouldn't've needed the Platinum Chip.
That said, he could probably pay and organize the scientists and engineers better than anyone else alive. Might be knowledgeable enough to do proper design work, I don't know.
>Is House even a proper robotics engineer?
Wiki says he had a degree from CIT. Doesn't say whether it was in robotics, programming or something else.
Of course, by the time of the Great War it had probably been a long time since he did any hands-on engineering work given that he was the CEO, but it's pretty clear that he's supposed to be if not Tony Stark then at least Bill Gates.
he designed the chip, the place that made it was pre war so it was one of a kind and his whole life support system was designed by him pretty sure as well.
This might be a hot take, but I like OC factions and what they did with Mexico and Canada.
I don't give a frick about East Coast and Bethesda lore. At least those OWB goobers make interesting stuff. Can't wait for midwest.
100% agreed. Without original content you're left with a bunch of Bethesda slop on a mostly empty map. If the choice is to have an enjoyable game versus autistically adhering to a canon that's highly questionable to begin with, that's not a choice at all because nobody worth listening to will ever choose the latter.
As cringe as this OC is, the more "realistic" factions in the midwest (like the baggers and maxon expedition) have their story text written in broken English. Honestly if you want good factions the best thing to do is get good at HOI IV modding and hire an artist. Your competition is trannies and 14 year old Russians.
I don't mind them filling the map. I don't even mind them adding the Desert Rangers from Wasteland to flesh out Arizona. But adding Mexico isn't filling the map, since Mexico isn't even supposed to be on the fricking map. Don't equate Texas lore with Mexican lore, since Texas at least actually appears in a game no matter how shit it is.
OWB went to shit like 3 years ago when they started to introduce donut steel nations and characters.
Map should have been mostly tribal/empty in areas that dont have established presence in games
>play choir >get innundated with a constant spam of fanfiction.net angst and traumatic backstories from characters that don't even exist for a full paragraph.
Its funny too since originally Enclave was supposed to be a parody of WASP "deep state" apparatus that is CIA, FBI etc
At least this is how i saw them in Fallout 2
It is basically the idea being lost in translation and the new zoomer devs take over
The memories of the deep state being WASP at all, have almost completely faded. The Enclave is full of female Mexicans because the real life Deep State is full of mystery meat creatures these days
Whats sad is i can see this being the reason, modern indie devs and modders feel this weird need to "put le fascists in their place" like with tno and fallout the frontier.
probably because OWB devs are perpetually insecure that their mod is an adaptation of existing work, so they have to add a load of OC bullshits to make it their thing instead.
The art-style of the focus tree icons and national spirit icons for the Sisters of Steel (and to some extent, the Montana Chapter) is literally from My Little Pony.
I don't mind, its still better than the shit Bethesda made in the east coast, sometimes it does feel like wasted potential though like the AIs in Mexico just kinda finish at some point and don't have any real narrative resolution.
What would be considered the optimal version of this mod?
Something without the OC stuff and just things like the cultish Vipers from the Fallout Bible, for example.
something that sticks strictly to canon, bible, cut content and unreleased material. Fallout has plenty of cool mentioned-only factions that should have been featured instead of Black person shit Mexico. I'm talking something like the weird school mentioned Honest Heart, which is still functioning 40 years after the apocalypse.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/The_School
Why do all the new OCs feel like the writers are trying to out-weird the other? Nothing wrong with factions that are out there as long as they're the small minority but when all the factions are like that, the whole world feels nonsensical. The best OCs are the mundane ones.
Trannies
I think the mod had an option to control what path that faction chooses to go down so they dont do that (aka like all other factions with giant focus trees lol) but it appears they have since removed it
uh no you can still go patroclus's route
I think it's fun. They have to fill out the map somehow. Lot's of new lore is quite good, troll warren, TV Town, Eagle's Rock, Texas Brotherhood, Attis Remanents. Seems respecful of the canon and rarely outright contradicts it if ever.
I don't mind them filling the map. I don't even mind them adding the Desert Rangers from Wasteland to flesh out Arizona. But adding Mexico isn't filling the map, since Mexico isn't even supposed to be on the fricking map. Don't equate Texas lore with Mexican lore, since Texas at least actually appears in a game no matter how shit it is.
As in an option to force the AI to go down that path in the new game options
The entire mod is trash. It stops being Fallout the moment these Black folk focus on Canada and Mexico to add their OG Donut Steel factions over regions that actually have lore in canon. Not to mention the gay ass EU4 wannabe economic system.
>OG Donut Steel factions over regions that actually have lore
this x100
also tech levels are sometimes nonsensical
like how the frick is heaven's gate more advanced than the brotherohod who've been pilfering tech for a century, NCR which took over navarro and presumably acquired at least something of value there, shi (self explanatory), and FRICKING VEGAS, whose leader invented half the stuff that's IN the tech tree
they did my boy house dirty because his path doesn't even have the option to unlock advanced stuff in the late game
Is House even a proper robotics engineer? Like, did he do any of the work or was it all the people under his employ. If he could do anything himself he probably wouldn't've needed the Platinum Chip.
That said, he could probably pay and organize the scientists and engineers better than anyone else alive. Might be knowledgeable enough to do proper design work, I don't know.
>Is House even a proper robotics engineer?
Wiki says he had a degree from CIT. Doesn't say whether it was in robotics, programming or something else.
Of course, by the time of the Great War it had probably been a long time since he did any hands-on engineering work given that he was the CEO, but it's pretty clear that he's supposed to be if not Tony Stark then at least Bill Gates.
he designed the chip, the place that made it was pre war so it was one of a kind and his whole life support system was designed by him pretty sure as well.
House's a legit scientist because one of the Think Tanks is his rival. House is on the same level as them except not crazy.
I don't follow the mod. What's the issue with this dyke?
they bloated the mod with shitty OC character that make game run like shit
worse, they bloated it with shitty OC factions too
This might be a hot take, but I like OC factions and what they did with Mexico and Canada.
I don't give a frick about East Coast and Bethesda lore. At least those OWB goobers make interesting stuff. Can't wait for midwest.
100% agreed. Without original content you're left with a bunch of Bethesda slop on a mostly empty map. If the choice is to have an enjoyable game versus autistically adhering to a canon that's highly questionable to begin with, that's not a choice at all because nobody worth listening to will ever choose the latter.
I'd rather Bethesda slop with some major adjustments than total OC slop.
Remember to stretch your butthole to accommodate more brotherhood of steel factions
BoS being everywhere is bible canon
As cringe as this OC is, the more "realistic" factions in the midwest (like the baggers and maxon expedition) have their story text written in broken English. Honestly if you want good factions the best thing to do is get good at HOI IV modding and hire an artist. Your competition is trannies and 14 year old Russians.
Raul in F:NV comes from Mexico
>1993+30
>Eternal September is still eternal
Go play with your grankids or something.
OWB went to shit like 3 years ago when they started to introduce donut steel nations and characters.
Map should have been mostly tribal/empty in areas that dont have established presence in games
I asked
I'm still seething and coping
>play choir
>get innundated with a constant spam of fanfiction.net angst and traumatic backstories from characters that don't even exist for a full paragraph.
>play choir
>whatever path you choose you leader die
What did they mean by this?
>Enclave introduced
>Led by a Hispanic chick
Its funny too since originally Enclave was supposed to be a parody of WASP "deep state" apparatus that is CIA, FBI etc
At least this is how i saw them in Fallout 2
It is basically the idea being lost in translation and the new zoomer devs take over
The memories of the deep state being WASP at all, have almost completely faded. The Enclave is full of female Mexicans because the real life Deep State is full of mystery meat creatures these days
I thought that they made it such way to "stick it" to the meanies who like to larp as enclave in the fallout community.
What a sad and pathetic way to live.
Whats sad is i can see this being the reason, modern indie devs and modders feel this weird need to "put le fascists in their place" like with tno and fallout the frontier.
No she gets murdered by their special agent and they become the proper enclave
>Doesn't play as the Enclave Reborn Redux Enclave
NGMI
Anon, she fricking dies and a Not Frank Horrigan takes control if she tries to be le good redditerino girl
Why did they feel the need to add hundreds of made up factions instead of just improving the real ones and making a good late game expirence.
probably because OWB devs are perpetually insecure that their mod is an adaptation of existing work, so they have to add a load of OC bullshits to make it their thing instead.
>literally have a Scribe Amity and Luz
It's like they're not even trying to hide the fact that they are trannies who watch shows for preteens
The art-style of the focus tree icons and national spirit icons for the Sisters of Steel (and to some extent, the Montana Chapter) is literally from My Little Pony.
If that was true then the mod would actually produce kino
Made for having sex with anon.
What am I looking at here? I did a playthrough of the Sister but I don't recall these pictures
I don't mind, its still better than the shit Bethesda made in the east coast, sometimes it does feel like wasted potential though like the AIs in Mexico just kinda finish at some point and don't have any real narrative resolution.
What would be considered the optimal version of this mod?
Something without the OC stuff and just things like the cultish Vipers from the Fallout Bible, for example.
something that sticks strictly to canon, bible, cut content and unreleased material. Fallout has plenty of cool mentioned-only factions that should have been featured instead of Black person shit Mexico. I'm talking something like the weird school mentioned Honest Heart, which is still functioning 40 years after the apocalypse.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/The_School
When are the cypher warbands getting a tree I want luddite kino
Let me guess, still nothing from SUPERIOR Tactics?
Why do all the new OCs feel like the writers are trying to out-weird the other? Nothing wrong with factions that are out there as long as they're the small minority but when all the factions are like that, the whole world feels nonsensical. The best OCs are the mundane ones.
Yeah I feel that, I hope 5.0 has some ground paths and factions