Is gatekeeping necessary for the survival of a gaming community?
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Is gatekeeping necessary for the survival of a gaming community?
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it's necessary for the survival of any community. The second you let women in it becomes about them and their feelings, even if said feelings are completely contrary to what the group is supposed to be about.
Gatekeeping doesn't exist anymore. It's impossible to gate keep anything, aside from probably fighting games. It's why they make Ganker seethe.
>aside from probably fighting games
>devs keep making shittier and shittier fighting games to appeal to the lowest common denominator instead of the people who play the genre
>streamboars are the majority, even at IRL events people would rather watch their favorite player/e-celeb commentator than actually play a fighting game
>troons everywhere
>banter and shit talk are discouraged for "stream friendly language" so the dipshit running a 12 viewer stream can try for a partnership
the time to play fighting games was 10+ years ago, the larger community and developers making the games have fully capitulated to people who barely care about fighting games and everything fricking sucks now.
>strive
>sonicfox
yeah no
Yes, example is the fallout community, troons vs chuds and it's frustrating, just play videogames.
lolno gatekeeping in this day and age is pointless
i literally got an ad from a queer social media account calling straight people “normies”
you guys keep using these little cartoons for things that don't happen trying to gaslight people into thinking it's some widespread phenomena
>look at the little stick people! and now this guy joined! uh oh, he's inviting his girlfriend! now our group dynamic of 5 people has changed! this is what happens every time to everything that everyone can always relate to!
no. this basically only applies to ethnostates or something. but you're talking about some video game people probably don't have as much interest in than you think they do
>ethnostates
Considering Israel exists, surely it has less to do with video games and more of the fact that literally no one takes ethnostate seriously.
Gatekeeping is only possible if whoever is in control doesn't chase money. I don't know if it's necessarily gatekeeping but Helldivers 2 dev(s?) seems really autistic to his vision to the point where he lashes out at discord trannies, but if he makes the game easier it's not gatekeeping.
It was necessary a decade ago, now it's too late to do any good.
(WE ARE HERE)
last panel will never happen
People who preach about gatekeeping on Ganker tend to turn around and contribute to Twitter screencap threads, which is a comical lack of self awareness
You can't gatekeep games because they are product and it would financial suicide to gatekeep costumers.
You can, however, gatekeep communities to deter morons from flooding in and censoring criticism.
you can only gatekeep a community if you have control of who's in it
how else would you do it, call anyone with a shit opinion a moron? worked fricking great for this shithole
Yes, it's very important for gaming or hobby communities of any kind. But very difficult to achieve when the developers themselves just try to bring in more and more strangers. If you want actual effective gatekeeping you create your own game studio and design a title that will filter everyone you deem to be undesirable.
To a degree
Shutting everyone new out no matter what will kill a community with time, but setting certain expectations and conditions before someone becomes a part of it can maintain its integrity.
Someone who can only microwave ramen can't call themselves a chef; someone who's only changed oil can't call themselves a motor enthusiast; someone who's only ever used AI to make pictures can't call themselves an artist; someone who's never watched a show but only heard people talk about it can't call themselves a fan.
There's a certain degree of experience required to be a part of any community, which may seem arbitrary from the outside looking in, but those inside of it will just "know" in ways those outside of it never will. This makes it uncomfortable and awkward when a wannabe insists they're a part of a community they are in no way qualified to be a part of: some will take pity and try to mentor them, others will want them gone, causing division and ultimately the destruction of the community at large.
The only successful gatekeeping is gatekeeping done by the people who make the thing that is being gatekept.
If the people who make it don't want undesirables. That it will most likely not have undesirable.
yes
dude, gatekeeping isn't real, is just one stupid homosexual that goes around saying he is getting gatekeeped because he was an annoying butthole that didn't even try to learn to play. it has nothing to do with trannies like you believe it does.
>literal moron who doesn't understand whats meant by gatekeeping
kek
this image went from being
>Waah trannies evil
to
>this is fricking hilarious
after i transitioned
Why?
why what
Why is the image hilarious now?
its so over the top, the hobbies aren't being corrupted or going anywhere, its just pointless dramatizing and its often nerds just..transitioning ig
>You will never get what you think you had back and that’s hilarious
this but it’s this goofy homie’s ball sack when the regret settles in lmao
No, it makes you look like an incel
At the barest minimum you have to keep people who don't like the game out of it's community and make sure the developers KNOW those frickwits aren't potential sales.
World of Warcraft irreparably DESTROYED gaming AND gaming forums. It's too late to fix either. The gatekeeping should have happened 20 years ago.
Gatekeeping is an idolized myth. All it ever ends up becoming is shit like those private forums or sub-reddits that ban anybody for not being part of the hivemind.
Skill issue. Lurk moar and you won't get banned.
>that ban anybody for not being part of the hivemind.
Absolute hypocricy.
With expection of places like Ganker expressing opinions and views that isn't approved by normalgay hivemind will get you banned.
How qurious.
You already will get banned almost everyvere else for deviating from official narrative.
So whats your point again?
You are moronic gorilla Black person, gatekeeping serves no purpose when your walls have already been breached and your villages are been ransacked.
As much as possible, yes. Anyone who sincerely wants to play and isn't a soft pussy will press on and anyone who gets filtered should be filtered.
If you constantly let people know they are not welcome, they leave. It's a human trait. We aren't capable of mentally leaving the market square. All you need to do is say "ew, why is he here? Does he not understand?" and people will leave on their own. Gatekeeping is oddly a really wrong word for it since it plants bad ideas about how it works. It's more like ostracizing.
This is also why they keep doing their "gamers are dead" type chants, because they're trying to do it to you.
the gatekeeping is necessary for the survival of any community, including internet istelf.
Normalgays and other fanatics are very literal vermin no different than roaches or rats.
Are we really going to start attaching homophobic slurs to the ends of words now? Can't you tourists just grow up and at least try to fit in when you come here?
This is shining example and evidence why you should be gatekept and brutally persecuted both online and real life.
anon that's a troll post
From who? Trannies? Too late they are already inside the community because most gamers are autistic and being autistic is a big part of being trans.
gatekeeping doesn't work because you don't have a flamethrower, you have harsh language
Eh...
Depends.
Some games need a larger community.
The issue is when homosexual streamers and youtubers get their hands on them which immediately after gets kotaku and other shitholes involved who promise the game developers exposure if the developers agree to sell their soul to Baphomet.
So you want it to have enough exposure that at worst you get some dedicated youtube channels involved but not enough your game makes the front page of IGN. It is a very delicate balance.
You can not gatekeep a consumer product. You have to learn how to leverage boycotts and blacklists to exert active influence on those who sell to you.
>gatekeeps
>dies out
Something something hero something live something villain
Do you only speak in movie quotes
I remember when it was released on steam and TF2 players were gatekeeped out. I remember those days...
Fear and Hunger is intresting in that it was an originally a gate-hard locked type of game that only miserable rusian and finish ppl played, and now it's turning into a normie phenomenon out of nowhere, and it somehow feels correct.
>out of nowhere
It's just the masterclass level writing that's getting the praise people aren't actually playing that.
If you are the type to feel the need to gatekeep a single player game then you are the type to complain about cyber bullying.
>if someone is being a piece of shit to you it is your fault for not bowing to his demands and leaving your space forever
I never understood why being a spineless pussy is seen as the correct answer to being pushed around.
You don't have to "leave" per say. All you got to do is ignore them and they literally have no power over you. Block if you have to but genuinely being upset over mean words over the internet when there is so much you can do in response is genuinely moronic.
and how do you ignore them when they completely take over the community and its impossible to say anything without some pronoun person screaming and crying because you're evil?
not reading their comments? seems easy to me.
and when they infiltrate the moderation teams because nobody told them to frick off when it was just onr ot two?
I'm curious as to what exactly the type of shit you post for this to be a regular issue for you as the only two communities where I have genuinely seen this happen was r/berserk due to them taking their manga extremely seriously and r/gamingcirclejerk which is a subreddit designed for hating on gamers and gaming in general for not being pc enough and neither of those groups had mod takeovers that drastically changed how those communities saw opinions (r/berserk were always anal about berserk jokes and r/gamingcirclejerk were always whiney sjws).
>was r/-
go back and never come back.
I'm using reddit as an example because it is big and a lot of people use it but you could apply this to any social media platform except for Ganker which is like getting fired from a union job, meaning you have to go out of your way to get banned on here.
Are you just buttmad that you got banned from some forum?
Nope, the problem with normies is censorship, thats why we should encourage gatekeeping
If I go into the woods and leave a shitload of broken beer bottles and garbage, is it gatekeeping to get mad at me for fricking up nature?
The idea of gatekeeping is moronic and the journalists/ game devs you all cry about are the only ones successfully gatekeeping anything. Frick off with this moron logic.
>stop noticing!!!!
shut up dumbass if you didn't care you wouldn't argue about it
I hate dishonest people
I'm asking what you're complaining about. You said something about moderation on a community so what the frick could that mean other than you getting banned from a forum?
trannies have managed to weasle their way into every community and worked their way into the ear of any person holding any sort of power. Normies want their communities to be "inclusive" so they sign off on banning anyone that makes the troons mad. Same with companies, bad publicity like being x-phobic or tolerant of any sort of "hate" is terrible for them and they would avoid it all cost and rather agree with the troons and their lunacy and ban/exclude anyone that disagrees with them.
you aren't oppressed
>waaahh i got banned from twitter
Who cares homosexual.
Yes, but thanks to social media it's basically impossible now and you're pissing in the wind.
This is a pointless question to ask on a website that's failed to gatekeep but screeches about the necessity of it. It's both incapable of and unwilling to gatekeep. "Lurk moar" hasn't been feasible since before 2006
honestly these threads just seem like badass wannabe threads to me. If that makes any sense.