Is it really the peak of arcade action?
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Is it really the peak of arcade action?
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Idk anon, at the bar i used to go to it was this, super mario bros or mahjong, not much choice but it was fun and wasted tons of money on it
cant wait for another ms2gay thread
It's a simple game, with typically good arcade graphics, that was sold for home play on a $900 console.
Why is SNK so fricking horrible at rehashing its old assets when Nintendo is making a fortune? Samurai Shodown 5 "PERFECT"? No added moves or characters or backgrounds? Please b***h.
It’s ok, I prefer sunset riders. Its definitely more arcadey than metal slug
No, too easy.
If Metal Slug is "easy" then what arcade games are hard?
Why is it always that shitters who haven't even cleared the game say this?
Can you name one arcade game you have cleared on real hardware without watching a youtube video to show you how it's done?
>cleared on real hardware
Annnnnnd here comes the shitter cope
>I 1cc arcade games
>so what if it's on mouse and keyboard?
You probably watch tutorials as well.
it's quite overrated, contra series are better
They're both good. My top 3 run n guns would be arcade midnight resistance, metal slug 2 and nes contra.
>30FPS
No.
consolegays are such crybabies
It's consolegays who care more about graphics than smooth gameplay and controls. Metal Slug has always been trash that hid its shit gameplay under impressive visuals and animation.
Metal Slug's gameplay and design is miles better than Contra dumbass zoomie
That's a completely false equivalency you fricking moron
>That's a completely false equivalency you fricking moron
It's not at all. Were you to walk into an arcade you would be completely lost without your save states.
You don't use save states in a 1cc you fricking imbecile.
Save states, rewind whatever you want to call it. It's the reason you're afraid of original hardware.
>just spend over $1000 on a NeoGeo and Metal Slug cartridge to prove your run is legit
you are fricking moronic. everyone from casuals to superplayers plays on emulation, and they all know that when going for a clear, you aren't using save states/rewind.
Metal Slug is massively improved with emulation anyways since the games play much better with emulated CPU overclock to remove the slowdown, and optionally autofire.
You don't know what you're talking about. Superplayers never overclock. They prefer emulation that is true to the original hardware speed because they are expected to prove their skills in true arcade environment. Any variation in speed throws the muscle memory off.
>Any variation in speed throws the muscle memory off.
Man, you are one fricking idiot. Slowdown massively cuts frame rate and game speed, massively increases input lag, has jarring starts and stops, creates inconsistent game feel and timing, and literally eats inputs.
There is no defense for shitty slowdown, especially in cases where the game is not specifically balanced around slowdown (basically every game in existence except shitty CAVE shmups)
>Slowdown massively cuts frame rate and game speed, massively increases input lag, has jarring starts and stops, creates inconsistent game feel and timing, and literally eats inputs.
Nobody cares as long as everyone, including both arcade goers and emulator users, plays the same standard of the game. If an emulator lets you get a higher score than arcade version by the virtue of having less input lag then your score is not legit.
Removing slowdown doesn't let you get a higher score you fricking smoothbrained moron. The lower input lag is due to not having the framerate drop like 5fps (and game speed along with it) whenever there is a lot of action on screen. Excessive slowdown just feels like utter shit.
If you want an experience that is as close to 1:1 as arcade you would play with slowdown, but if you actually care about the game itself, it is vastly superior (both in terms of enjoyment and responsiveness) without slowdown.
You don't even have any clears, so I don't know why I am even bothering to explain this to a moron shitter.
>If you want an experience that is as close to 1:1 as arcade you would play with slowdown, but if you actually care about the game itself, it is vastly superior (both in terms of enjoyment and responsiveness) without slowdown.
This is a very clueless tourist take. Don't even try to talk about arcade scene and superplayers ever again. Your clears (if you have any) are not legit and you don't belong.
>random shitter with zero clears calling others "clueless tourists"
fricking lmao
Slowdown massively cuts frame rate and game speed, massively increases input lag, has jarring starts and stops, creates inconsistent game feel and timing, and literally eats inputs.
There is no argument for slowdown besides "b-but that's how it is on PCB so therefore it must automatically be right!!"
Many superplayers these days are playing on ports or emulation that don't have accurate slowdown or have wait-off modes anyways (whether intentionally or unintentionally)
Post clears shitter
>cheater asks for clears
>because he doesn't have any
What a cheating ass scrub. I bet you also use run ahead mode and savescum during clear runs.
Acceptable:
>run-ahead (nonfactor)
>rebinding inputs (ie using kb/m or controller)
>autofire (as long as you aren't passing it off as non-autofire)
>removing slowdown
Unacceptable:
>playing non-Japan version
>using non-default settings without stating
>cheats
>playing at partial speed
>splicing/multi-segment/pausing
>save-states/rewind
>shitclears (run that is both low-scoring and has deaths)
>>run-ahead (nonfactor)
Tell that to Battle Garegga players, lmao
>Acceptable:
>>run-ahead (nonfactor)
I don't even play with run-ahead, but it really doesn't make enough difference to even matter. 95% of the people using run-ahead are third worlders playing on 60Hz fixed-refresh-rate LCD monitors who are still getting more input lag than PCB on CRT. Even in lag-optimized cases, run-ahead reduces raw input lag at the cost of input lag consistency, so is really only useful for cases of games with like 5-6+ frames of input lag where the raw input lag reduction is enough to make up for the worse consistency (and even then it is marginal and arguable)
Don't post anything about your 'clears' ever again.
Not your hugbox moron. No one cares that your geriatric ass can reach stage 3 and then game over on original hardware.
>feeble ass geezer uses crutches
>calls others geriatric
Post legit clears without cheating or btfo
How would you tell he's not using run ahead again?
i don't care
>Acceptable:
>>run-ahead (nonfactor)
inputs (ie using kb/m or controller)
(as long as you aren't passing it off as non-autofire)
slowdown
>
>Unacceptable:
non-Japan version
non-default settings without stating
at partial speed
-segment/pausing
>>save-states/rewind
(run that is both low-scoring and has deaths)
Which community has these rules?
His head canon.
>cheats
Autofire IS cheating you dum dum.
>Acceptable
>autofire
>on original arcade metal slug
>autofire
Nope. Unacceptable. The original arcade Metal Slug release in both Japan and the West did not have autofire. Maybe the console ports which came out many years later, but not the original arcade version everyone played.
Autofire was well, WELL established in Japan by 1995 (hell, even by the late 80s it was very prevalent). And once it became the standard, it was used freely without limits in all games retroactively anyways. Autofire circuits on PCBs were extremely common in Japan (and devs were well aware, balancing their games around this), while the filthy gaijin mashed like spastics.
It doesn't matter if these autofire circuits existed or not back in the 1980s. Because autofire was not installed equally in all Japanese cabinets. Not every cabinet had it. Many Japanese people played on cabinets without autofire. Unless you can prove that 100% of all Japanese Arcade cabinets had them installed, but you know I'm right.
>durr well actually autofire is only legit if literally every single cabinet in all of Japan was using it!!
What kind of moronic argument is this? Do you even think before type? Autofire was the norm for serious players, superplayers, and was the norm for all recordkeeping in Japan (Gamest, Arcadia, JHA). I don't give a damn if some arcade largely used by children, casuals, or tourists didn't feature autofire circuits because the established standard was that autofire was allowed and the norm.
Instead of trying to come up with some pants on head moronic gotcha moment, please get a single fricking clear before you come back to these threads you dumb shitter.
You do realize that you didn't clear the games that you overclocked, right? Emulation is useful as a training tool but using it's benefits when going for a clear is not allowed if you are competing with other players scores.
You realize you have literally zero clears so not a single person here cares about your irrelevant opinion at all?
I do realize that you have zero clears because you're a cheating ass shitter
>n-no u!!
just shut the frick up and leave moronic shitter.
Is it so hard for just ONE person in these threads to actually have even a few clears? It's absolutely pathetic. An entire board for retro games and yet no one can commit a few hours to even get something as basic as a 1CC shitclear, which is the bare minimum for game knowledge and competency.
You have 0 (zero) clears so stfu
You are a cheating subhuman
>I prefer games that slow down to single digit framerate because the developers were incompetent and I cope by saying this is the superior experience
>I prefer games that slow down to single digit framerate because the developers were incompetent and I cope by saying this is the superior experience
It is the superior experience and brings hype. I'm starting to think you have very little experience with arcade games.
>Metal Slug's gameplay and design is miles better than Contra dumbass zoomie
Not him but I don't get this sentiment. Which part of Metal Slug is better designed than a Contra game exactly?
Do you watch a film and cry that it's 24fps?
Yes. We need to standardize on 120fps or higher.
mystic warriors or elevator action returns
Mystic Warriors is trash. Konami really phoned that one in
Metal Slug is fricking based. I just wish the games had a proper limited lives / continues system rather than only having either infinite continues or going for the 1cc cheevo which is a bit much.
Any other great games like MS that would have a more balanced take on the lives / continues system?
Pretty fricking close.
Yes.
Metal Slug games are pretty to look at there are many shmups that are more fun to play from minute to minute shooting feel to elaborate scoring systems.
Playing Metal Slug for score if miserable experience
>stay in place
>kill respawning enemies until the time runs out
>shmups
>fun
>scoring
>fun
Dilate
Sorry you play The Sims.
Post clears posers
Post yours first as a proof that you're not a coin feeding shitter that you've just made yourself look like by disregarding shmups and scores.
get a room you gays
Let me guess, coin feeding through Metal Slug 3 is peak arcade action for you?
I'd rather play Alien Storm
What about Gun Force 2.
No, but it's great and so is Contra.
Yeah but only if you use autofire
Metal Slug threads should be banned just by the huge amount of stupidity it brings.
As much as I love Metal Slug games, they attract the lowest common denominator anons here. The same anons who talk about normie games like Mario and Zelda all day long but start sperging out about reddit and trannies when you mention something more niche.
Every Metal Slug thread is full of butthurt meanies. Holy cow, on can't even have fun with a wacky shooter. Next everyone will rip on Zombies at my Neighbors, and Smash TV
The dumbest discussion I've seen for a long time
>every metal slug thread devolves into "BRO POST CLEAR DEN" gayging
when will it end
and still there has been zero clears posted... curious.
when ms2gay gets rangebanned or commits 1cc suicide.
I don't know what a superplayer is but it sounds gay as hell.
Frick off and never come back you arrogant spammer. You have been doing this for months so don't complain when you get called out for spamming your cheating ways on EVERY Metal Slug thread. This is not your hugbox for shitposting.
Show us one PURE 1cc metal slug clear without anything enabled in the emulator. No autofire. No save states. No run ahead. No modifiers enabled at all. Just default Metal running and you 1cc clear it. Do it and I will APOLOGIZE right now and admit you are right about everything. Go ahead. Show us.
Why the frick do you think I care about the approval of some dumbass shitter with zero clears. I don't, get the frick out of the thread moron.
The only thing I even use out of those is autofire anyways, as it is the accepted norm for arcade games and shmups for well over three decades. And no, I'm not changing for some moron fricking shitter who basedfaces at someome mashing a button. Also, listing run-ahead as some advantage really just shows your complete delusion and how you try to find ways to justify and cope about why others are able to get clears easily and your moronic ass struggles.
Kill everyone in this thread, MS threads are dead forever
Neo Turf Masters has the superior version of the theme song.
Has the cheater dude posted his clears yet?
Everyone you mentioned has already proven they can 1CC beat Metal Slug without autofire. They've done it and shown us all. So we don't care if they use autofire or not. We know they got the skills.
But you haven't proven anything for yourself. Where are your 1CC clears of Metal Slug without autofire? Show us your credentials before continuing to run your mouth.
>Everyone you mentioned has already proven they can 1CC beat Metal Slug without autofire
No, they haven't, stop talking out of your ass. Most players, especially eastern players, don't give a shit about playing with autofire. It's a completely irrelevant and archaic ""skill""
>Where are your 1CC clears of Metal Slug without autofire?
I don't give a shit about autofire. Autofire has been the standard and the norm for over 30 yesrs old. No one is changing that, and certainly not some moronic shitter here with literally zero clears lmfao
Anon...They've done runs without autofire before. Not often, but they've done it. Don't be mad just because you haven't and can't do it.
>Anon...They've done runs without autofire before. Not often, but they've done it
No, they don't... You just saying it doesn't make it true, moron. They are always using autofire if it is available and advantageous.
Get a single fricking clear you moronic shitter. Imagine playing arcade games for years and a basic 1cc shitclear is still some lofty unobtainable goal for you. And then to go on cope with bullshit like "b-b-but they used run-ahead, they used autofire!! everyone is a cheater except me!!" You are one very stupid, very incompetent shitter.
You have literally zero clears, you don't demand anything. You shouldn't even be in this thread. How is it even fricking possible that you play arcade games for years and yet have ZERO 1CCs?
>How is it even fricking possible that you play arcade games for years and yet have ZERO 1CCs?
You tell me. How is it possible that you have zero 1CCs even with cheats on?
Autofire isn't a cheat and never will be no matter how much garbage you spew. Also, I have dozens of no-miss clears and have even posted them here multiple times. If you know you know.
>I have dozens of no-miss clears and have even posted them here multiple times
No you didn't. Stop pretending to be someone else, shitter. You haven't posted a clear yet because you have zero
I'm not saying you should get clears to "brag". I'm not saying you should get clears to "earn my respect"
I'm asking: WHY THE FRICK ARE YOU EVEN IN A THREAD ABOUT ARCADE GAMES IF YOU LITERALLY HAVE ZERO CLEARS EVER?
This thread is about Metal Slug. And Metal Slug in general. You turned into a debate about 1CC clears and getting mad that no one respects you 1CC
Why would you be in a Metal Slug thread with no Metal Slug clears? Why would you be in a thread about arcade games (ie Metal Slug) with no arcade clears?
Do you typically enter discussions about things about which you have zero experience?
>Why would you be in a Metal Slug thread with no Metal Slug clears?
People who care about 1cc are a tiny minority. The majority of people like Metal Slug because it's a cool game.
Someone who basedfaces and goes "DOOD!! EPIC EXPLOSIONS!!" while credit feeding through the game has nothing to add to the discussion. Again, 1CC is the BARE MINIMUM for an arcade game, especially one as approachable as Metal Slug 1.
No, nonplayers just realized that they couldn't flood the thread with garbage without getting called out.
No need to gatekeep, bro. We should welcome everyone except shitters who brag about their 'clears' which they did with cheats.
Also, I want to add: everyone learns and improves at different rates, but the players in this thread have zero interest in even ever attempting to learn or 1CC the game in any capacity. Their entire experience with Metal Slug is limited to a couple hours many years ago either credit feeding at some arcade or just testing out the game on MAME just to see what the hype was about.
And even if you are a shitter, that's fine, just be open about it. Don't demand things from others, and certainly don't try to act like an expert or you will definitely get called out.
>People who care about 1cc are a tiny minority
Less than you think. Many more coin-fed, savescummed, auto-fired through the game and played it at incorrect speed.
Metal Slug threads have been dead for months thanks to the autofire spammer. Eiher ban MS threads or ban (and murder) the shitposter.
Waiting for the public execution of the "shitter"-spammer schizo.
Still waiting for you to get a single fricking clear ever. Why is it that there are almost 50 posters here and yet only ONE fricking person in this whole thread has even a single clear? How is that even possible? Have you even put more than five hours in an arcade game?
No one here is bragging except you. No one here is whining about not getting respected except you.
How come this autofire runahead dude has zero clears?
Did he really just posted a folder screenshot as a "proof"?
Even posting a LIST of clears is too much for you shitters because you know you would be instantly called out as a clueless fraud.
How many times did you use rewind option on these?
None, these are real time clears with handcams. No one is labeling something a clear/1cc/xALL and using save states/rewind/pausing/splicing/slow-mo unless they are outright admitting being a cheater.
But you did admit being a cheater
No wonder arcades died if they attracted the same kind of autistic weirdos that these threads do.
None of these people went to arcades, that's the thing.
I remember going to arcades. We had a small landromat arcade in my neighborhood growing up. It had 5 cabinets including metal slug. and always had a group of kids hanging out near them. That's how I met the neighborhood kids. No one cared about 1cc or any of that nonsense and I wish people here talking about 1cc would go away. It was never important and like you said I doubt they even went to arcades back then.
>a bunch of moronic kids mashing buttons in a shitty western arcade
>the authority on arcade gaming
nice try shitter. we should be held to a higher standard than some dumbass kid with a few quarters in his pocket.
Whatever community you are apart of is extremely niche and tiny. I don't even think you even went to arcades since you hate cabinets so much. Stop ruining this thread. It's not for you.
Agreed. This one anon is ruining metal slug threads. He hates arcade cabinets and hates western players. So I have no idea why he's in a general western thread.
Metal Slug is neither a western game nor is its fanbase primarily western.
This thread is a general metal slug thread. Not a 1cc thread. Stop ruining this thread.
Dude I love having a discussion about a game where everyone's experience with it is playing it for five minutes as a kid.
>we should be held to a higher standard
Kids didn't even beat vast majority of their games. If all you did was credit feed in an arcade as a kid, then you have nothing to add to this thread and need to get the frick out.
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This was definitely the best way to play Metal Slug. Lots of memories on this big red machine.
>bat-top stick
>stand up cab
>no autofire circuit
>probably has non default dips
>playing with near unplayable levels of slowdown (especially on 2)
no thanks.
Also AES is the objectively superior way to play X and 3 since it allows you to rebind the moronic useless Slug Attack (allowing you to jump and shoot at once without suiciding your Slug) and also optional Vulcan Fix.
None of these mattered to kids and adults who played it in arcades. You have very strange standards.
Slightly smaller
Thoughts?
The original arcade release of Metal Slug did not have autofire.
Please stop flooding this thread with autofire nonsense arguments.
This thread is about discussing the awesomeness of Metal Slug in general.
Autofire circuits were extremely prevalent all throughout Japan, autofire was adopted as the standard as early as the late 80s (and applied retroactively anyways), and additionally basically all ports and emulation have autofire.
Stop flooding this thread with autofire nonsense arguments. This thread is about discussing the awesomeness of Metal Slug in general. Not your 1cc autofire debates.
Who cares if you used autofire or not? Just be honest about it and label your clears with "autofire used" or something like that and we're good.
No, that's not good enough for these clueless shitters. Anyone who has ever used autofire is a dirty cheater and your clear is automatically cheated bullshit unless you mashed the button like a spastic.
Of course in the real world, autofire has been the standard for well over three decades, but these morons don't have any clears anyways, and their only experience with these games is playing an hour on some shitty western standup cab with non-default settings and mashing fire.
It's like they don't realize that no one cares if you split scores/clears. Let the moronic mashing shitters compete amongst themselves for who can reach stage 2 vs. stage 3 in a credit.
If you don't want discussions on autofire then quit crying and spewing bullshit about how autofire is cheating you fricking moron.
Demon Front obviously.
>If you don't want discussions on autofire then quit crying and spewing bullshit about how autofire is cheating you fricking moron.
There are multiple people in this thread you are talking to. Please stop flooding this thread with nonsense about autofire. This is not the thread for it.
If you don't have any Metal Slug clears, then just stop typing right now.
We are discussing how cool Metal Slug and you are ruining the thread with a completely irrelevant topic. Make your own 1cc or autofire thread. This is not the place to discuss it.
>Demon Front
True, I had forgotten. I particularly like the animation for the ice gun (seen here: https://youtu.be/A7-d5d9N6Lc?t=235)
Also it seems members of the original team are trying to make a new game called Black Finger JET now, but info is scarce.
Looks like these three games are the only ones then...
Well there is also In The Hunt and GunForce 2, but those are both from the eventual Slug team at IREM and predate Metal Slug.
What happened to the Metal Slug taam? Did they disband?
Yes, Metal Slug 3 was their last game. Later games were made by different guys.
Are there any more games trying to replicate MS's artstyle? The only one I know of is Aqua Ippan (https://6th-divisions-den.com/aqua_ippan.html)
Here's some gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw0Bu8x9ZOw
Contra 4
Interesting. But they need more enemies attacking the player for it to be a metal slug. That footage looks way too casual and easy. There's hardly any soldiers shooting at the player. Metal slug always had a bunch of enemies coming from several angles. Not an unfair amount but enough to be a challenge if you didn't pay attention.