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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It used to be before normies caught on, like all good things.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Still is.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Proof, or you’re a consolegay

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          why would him saying its still cheaper to build your own pc mean hes a consolegay, you fat Black person?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gpus are twice the price they used to be

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          And pre-builts adjusted because they don't want to miss out. Aside from the beginning of the crypto bubble when pre-built prices took longer to inflate than standalone parts, they've always sold PCs full of bargain bin parts at the same price as custom builds full of decent ones, because the average buyer sees the GPU name and stops thinking.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What changed?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The crypto mining fad caused morons to go out and scalp all the high end components in stock thinking it will be the next big thing.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >mfw I managed to get a £300 GPU for retail and sold it to some crypto tard for £1000 during the height of scalping

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            based, did you buy a top of the line gpu once crypto crashed?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fire Nation Attacked

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        demand went up but supply stayed the same, prices skyrocketed

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes. The only problem is availability. don't forget that store prebuilts or alienwares uses degraded, lower quality pieces so their 4080 will run worse than the one you get yourself.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm gonna need some proof or at least a good argument why they would do that.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          all electronics is done with a % of accuracy, and the cards are tested in the end of the chain, the defective ones that still run are sent to prebuilt. It's the same for all electronics.
          Prebuilt also solder the pieces together or change the shape of the pieces to ensure you can't fix your problem yourself too.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          alienware uses proprietary boards dumb Black person fricking google it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why must normies ruin everything? Youtube is partly to blame too back in the days there was no youtube tutorial guides on how to build PCs.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because the average normie actually equates building a computer to a skill and they want to be paid for that skill and building computers is actually fricking easy as shit and can make you a quick cash injection if some Karen needs a gaming computer for her kid.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      dont blame normies
      blame the morons who overcharge for all the shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you use normies
      >no one bats an eye

      >I use normies
      >get told to go back until I stop using cringe terminology

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pcgays boasting about how consoletards should just build a computer
      >they do and things get more expensive as a result
      >"REEEEE FRICKING NORMIES RUINING EVERYTHING!!!!"
      shut the frick up you dumb normalgay

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No normalgay would ever build a pc but buy an overpriced prebuilt

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not anymore

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't checked recently, but maybe? For awhile it wasn't because of the stupid cryptocurrency crap (was cheaper to go pre-built), but I think if it hasn't swung back the other way already, it should get there?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you know all the parts you need and how to build it, sure, but that’s definitely no easy feat and it’s hard to teach yourself how to do it with no one in the room guiding you. A video can only do so much before you run into a road block the video doesn’t have a solution for. Then you have to deal with upgrades, trouble shooting, bugs, updates, software, and a bunch of other shit. That’s why consoles are superior and always will be superior. Plug in and play, no horseshit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you know all the parts you need and how to build it, sure
      PC Part Picker makes it incredibly easy for newcomers, I've just started using it because it just makes shit super easy
      https://pcpartpicker.com/

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >starting to build a pc for it work
        >want to play vidya
        >monitor with 4k 60 is 500+
        >a nice one with 4k, 144 is 800+
        >the nicest tier is 1200+

        I cant believe 4k/120 monitors are so much

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's a bunch of 4k/144 monitors on Amazon for around 500.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because 4k is a scam

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          4k is a meme, 1080p is enough for a monitor.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Blame consoles for pushing this meme.
            Because of that, morons now think 4k is the "standard" and 1080p is some shitty 480p tier resolution and that you need to buy a 1000$ GPU for 4k.
            And also think new tech is a meme because they can't run everything cranked to the max at 120 fps on their new GPU.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like 1440p, it feels like a nice upgrade to me.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            high pixel density objectively looks better though. 4k on a 27 inch monitor btfos 1080p on a 27 inch monitor.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            reject monkey resolution embrace 1440p

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >falling for the 4k meme
          I can't even make out single pixels on my 32 inch 1440 monitor from more than 2 feet away
          A higher pixel density is a complete waste

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >4k
            >anything less than 60"
            And they said that PC is the master race

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          buy a 4k tv with 120 refresh rate dumb frick it will be bigger and cheaper too

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just want a big monitor with a good refresh rate so I can sit back on the couch and play vidya or watch anime from there. Is that so much to ask?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Logicalincrements.com is also a super great one, just look around at other places for a cheaper pricing, but it's literally a set of stuff that all fits together no thought necessary. It's perfect if you don't know what you're doing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is literally the most fricking simple thing in the world that children can figure out you mongoloid. The only things I can see being awkward the first time are installation order and those tiny I/O plugs.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It is literally the most fricking simple thing in the world that children can figure out you mongoloid.
        Why are you just outright lying you fricking moron? It isn't very hard, but neither is driving, the problem is how much you stand to lose if you frick it up. I can build a lego, but if building the lego wrong flushes $300 down the toilet I'm going to be much more cautious about it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you get an electrician round every time you plug in your toaster in case you frick it up?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The literal only thing you could frick up is part compatibility. You cannot mess it up so long as you know how to read.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wasnt there a website that can tell you if theh parts are incompatible before you buy them?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You literally cannot frick up

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I fricked up an ssd once because the cables on my psu were too short, but thats the only time in like 12 PCs that I've built that any damage has ever happened.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw repeatedly do the hair-raising task of seating the CPU and absolutely cramming down the heatsink onto it and really tightening those screw thingies onto the PCB so fricking tight you're almost certain you feel like it ought to fricking snap something you've put so much pressure on it

          yet nothing catastrophic ever happened. Nothing snapped, no pins were bent

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't need to tighten them that hard

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The moment you feel any tension on a screwdriver, you stop, that's the golden rule.

              Some of those heatsinks i had to attach used those push-pin things, so it was all or nothing, either get the screw/plug whatever past the hole and it latches or it doesnt stay on at all

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The moment you feel any tension on a screwdriver, you stop, that's the golden rule.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Heatsinks are usually allen screws. Same stuff applies though, the moment you can't easily turn it with just a single finger at the tip of the wrench, it's enough.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't need to tighten them that hard

            I built my own computer. I'm just saying people have fricked it up before and some people go full moron in moments like [...]
            Or the guy earlier who couldn't figure things out because his memory was bad. Some morons can't even get their shit to turn on.

            The moment you feel any tension on a screwdriver, you stop, that's the golden rule.

            Heatsinks are usually allen screws. Same stuff applies though, the moment you can't easily turn it with just a single finger at the tip of the wrench, it's enough.

            [...]
            Some of those heatsinks i had to attach used those push-pin things, so it was all or nothing, either get the screw/plug whatever past the hole and it latches or it doesnt stay on at all

            I have severe OCD, so any time I have to tighten a screw or plug something in I always have to tighten it as hard as I can or push as hard as I can well past the point where I know it's fine because if I don't I get so torturously anxious and uncomfortable I want to tear my hair out and scream
            I've stripped so many screws and broken so many things because of this
            it's literally impossible for me to ever build a computer, I would either break everything or get so overwhelmed by it because of my OCD I would completely break down

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think maybe you should be paying for professional help rather than a PC

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              But the CORRECT way to screw in a screw is until it is hand tight...

              Your OCD makes you do it wrong instead of obsessively overly correct.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >your mental illness makes you do irrational things, why don't you just THINK RATIONALLY
                a literal child wrote this

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Calm down, Arthur.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I was likr you but after reading your post now I'm healed

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              dude go to a psychiatrist/psychologist: they generally do cognitive behavioral therapy and if needed they use medications like fluvoxamine maleate

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have health insurance or a job

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not seating your cpu and having to lever down the arm

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seating your CPU is really easy, it's just that you can break two very expensive things at the same time if you are a moron and do it wrong.
          Levering down the arm is also easy in theory, but it does feel "wrong" so it is encouraging to have someone tell you "Yes, it is supposed to feel sorta hard to push down".

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The hardest thing for me was unplugging my old motherboard (not an issue if you build a new PC from scratch) and plugging in the CPU power cable into the top left of the motherboard. It's just such an awkward angle, you don't really see where you are because your hand is in the way and it's dark. Also, I cut my hand doing that.
        I think I'll just plug that cable into the motherboard before I even mount it to the case in the future.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I usually just take out the entire motherboard when I have to mess with things like that

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Before i made my first computer in high school i was pretty much bullied by the people on the forum i frequented into sucking it up and build the damn thing. They compared it to lego.
      They helped double and triple check the list of stuff i was gonna buy and put together before i pulled the trigger on the purchase.
      I had guidance but i didn't have anyone in the room with me, and what help i did have wasnt live/real-time assistance

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      open discord, start a vc with a friend who knows computers, easy guidance

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the only complication I had was not knowing what CPU sockets were but I figured it out quick enough

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree, since a lot more than ten years pc are just plug and play legos with bsbby tier sockets. All the update are constantly automated too because we are perpetually online.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cabinet
      >power supply
      >motherboard
      >harddrive
      >GPU
      >CPU
      >RAM
      >OS
      that's all you need, how to assemble it can be looked up in a video no problem

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in the age of instant questions-and-answers and moron-resistant guides freely available on the internet
      the only difficult part is the manual dexterity and conviction required to connect the pins
      for everything else READ THE FRICKING MANUAL
      i know that /vee/ is basically blue /bee/ (read: full of morons) but i'd expect at least some competency in the field

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you have to be knowledgeable and have DIY problem solving skills
      I agree man, zoomers who don't even know what file explorer is will get filtered

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but that’s definitely no easy feat and it’s hard to teach yourself how to do it with no one in the room guiding you.
      Black person I put my own PC together when I was 13 years old 15 years ago.
      I didn't have a second computer (or phone) I could use to check shit on the internet. I literally just put it together using the manuals that come with the parts.
      It was easy back then, and its even easier now. Building modern PC's is literally just oversized legos. There's only one fricking place everything can go into.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Genuine question, are you moronic?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Then you have to deal with upgrades, trouble shooting, bugs, updates, software, and a bunch of other shit.
      that's the easiest part, but i guess normies do have to struggle with a simple windows activation.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DIY problem solving skills
      You mean pale skin and an IQ above 90. I'm not interested in making a solution for people who don't fit that criteria.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not hard but it's also something most people don't bother with so they feel nervous and probably heard a ton of shit about how computers are always breaking or have problems
      i think it's 100% anxiety of trying something new but with expensive shit on the line, a lot of people refuse to build their own computers simply because of this reason
      >i have a friend who is constantly on voicechat/video calls to help set up pc parts/build computers

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm an absolute moron who can barely pay attention to things and yet I've still managed to make several PC builds over the years

      good job explosing yourself as a console poorgay though

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >*exposing
        damn

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's piss easy it just looks like it'd be hard.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's better to doordash food every day. Sure it's insanely expensive and not tailor made just for you, but cooking takes all this equipment and skill. You have to know what ingredients to use, combine them all, not burn anything and operate all kinds of tools in the process, it's no easy feat. That's why I order goyslop every night, just pay and eat, no horseshit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's better to doordash food every day. Sure it's insanely expensive and not tailor made just for you, but cooking takes all this equipment and skill. You have to know what ingredients to use, combine them all, not burn anything and operate all kinds of tools in the process, it's no easy feat. That's why I order goyslop every night, just pay and eat, no horseshit

      if i ate food once every five years I would doordash and you'd be moronic not to.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I trust what my doctor tells me. Do you know how complex medicine is? You need to know dosing, endless human body systems, chemistry and so many other things! I don't have time to look all that up. I have my vax, all five boosters, my sleeping pills, my ADHD pills and of course my antidepressants. I tell him what my problems are, he gives me the meds, I pay the money, no horseshit.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on gpu prices but generally yes. It also depends on your target.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking NO lol
    It was once, now it’s not. Honestly my casual ass will probably get one of those mini pc that are like the size of your hand at some point.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are fine and can play most games upto 2018 with low graphic settings and a few graphical errors. However make sure you get the 16gb ram version and Alder lake chipset and you replace the thermal paste as soon as you get it as they use an inferior paste.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    *buys a steamdeck*
    uhhhh... nope

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      steam 'eck is the exception since it's subsidized by gaben's piles of money in order to serve as a trojan horse for linux adoption

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    just buy prebuild
    it just works

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Building has never been about saving money for me.
    Full freedom of choice and proper assembly and cable management is why i build

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    depends on your needs. nowadays 1080p gaming is dirt cheap since pretty much any card can run it very well, even older cards so price isnt as big an issue. if you want the latest and greatest however its definitely worse because of how much theyve been increasing GPU prices.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. 1080p is cheap and you can put a reliable comp together on a budget.
      As soon as you bump up your resolution things get questionable. Jumping to 1440p is almost twice as many pixels and the math just doesn't work in your favor in most cases.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Any newer 16:10 monitors for gaming?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          How would a "monitor for gaming" differ from any other monitor? Not trying to be an ass, genuinely wondering.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Higher refresh rate

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Faster response time. I use a TV as my second monitor and it's 30ms slower.

              Ah so things that aren't exclusive to tags like "gaming"

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would you need low response time for anything but gaming or niche professional work?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Faster response time. I use a TV as my second monitor and it's 30ms slower.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            try and plug your tv onto your pc and move your mouse around, you'll see the difference.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    every time i’ve tried to diy something instead of just buying retail it only end up being like 100 bucks cheaper.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Am I going crazy, or was this exact same thread with these same replies posted a while back?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've noticed that a few times before too, anon. We are not crazy. These replies are all bots.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually in generally the OPs are recycled by bots Or really desperate OPs
        The posts tend to be organic and since not much changes they tend to be the same assuming the kinds of people who post in these threads haven't gotten bored and left.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      every single thread in the catalog has been posted before and so have the replies. vedditors are boring and uncreative morons, who knew.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >arguments and straight up facts don’t change
      shocking

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      deja vu

      I've just been in this place before

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, only a couple guys on here are real people. the rest are feds or bots. i've seen identical posts being created for years. now and then, they even include my responses in them. i'll respond to a israelite or bot in a post and then they'll just scoop it up and use the next time they make that same post. very odd behavior, i must say.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think pc places take 50-100 money to build computer. so it depends how much you can earn in the time it takes to build and setup computer.
    if you've high paying job then it's generally better to pay other people do things because it takes your time away which you could use to earn much more money than what you're paying.
    i guess it just comes down to what your time is worth to you

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but not everyone has the patience or competence to build it themself

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on where you live. In my country (Australia) doing menial shit a monkey can do is so overvalued I would be paying an extra 100-200 bucks easy for some c**t to put the fricking computer legos together. Some companies have chink contacts with lower margins that can offer you a good deal but thats the exception, not the rule in my experience.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many lazy homosexuals are on this site now? You morons seriously can't do at max 2 hours work?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Selecting your parts and having it shipped already prebuilt is much easier. I hope you morons crying about "muh legos!!!" keep that same energy when it comes to fixing your own car, doing repairs on your house, or making your own furniture

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >letting some pajeet build you a pc
        What can possibly go wrong

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not much actually, especially when you can just spend 5 minutes to check the build when you get it. Pretty much all these companies are based in and ship from the US though.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >bros it's so easy!
          >what? You would trust someone else to do it for you?
          Pick one.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >comparing building a PC to fixing a car
        Autist gymnastics. You're still a lazy fat homosexual

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >making furniture from scratch is the same as plugging some parts and cables into designated slots
        You have brain damage

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        New cars are deliberately being made as complicated to frick with as possible.
        PCs are being made easier to frick with.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Older cars are not actually even that hard to repair... My dad never went into any school for it but does it all the time. Like. It really is just legos. If one brick breaks just buy a new one and replace it. But with modern cars they come with complicated electronic systems that can be near impossible for people to tamper with and the parts are also often not available for You to purchase.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was when the PS4 and XBone came out because they were underpowered. But actually most consoles have released with hardware exceeding or equivalent to the best of what was available on PC for a time for cheaper. Of course after 2 years this typically dissolved. The 360 was far more capable than anything but top of the line monster PCs in 2005

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember how around 2010 you could build a PC for like $500-$700 that smoked the consoles (run the games at 1080p/60fps/max no problem while consoles were 720p/30fps/med at best) with 50%+ off Steam sales for months-old games and it was just a no brainer to jump in.

      The value proposition just isn't there anymore, the PC part makers saw to that.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        2010 we still had the Xbox 360 and PS3. They both were old at that point and still underutilized. PS3 peaked with GTA V in 2013.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, yeah, it's a business to make computers for others. How would it make any money if this wasn't true.
    >inb4 this is one of a thousand pasta spam threads on Ganker and I just can't be fricked checking archive for a few seconds

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still is relevant, yes.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cheaper and probably worth knowing how to do

    not that i know how to do it

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now that prices are going down its way cheaper.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i don't know. are graphics card still overpriced from crypto miners?

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not when GPU are impossible to buy

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's probably more practical to buy a prebuilt these days.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >got a 600 dollar EVGA 3080ti a week before the news dropped
    Not anymore no, but I sure did get lucky. Have fun repping gigabyte and asus lmao.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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    SOYO AMD Radeon RX5700XT Video Memory 8G Graphics Card PCIE3.0x16 Gaming Video Card for Desktop Computers: $115

    Mousepad Xxl Black Mouse Pad Free Shipping Long Speed Computer Mat Gaming Room Decors Big Mousepepad Table Cute Desk Accessory: $8

    AJAZZ AJ199 2.4G Wireless Mouse Optical Mice with USB Receiver Gamer 26000DPI 6 Buttons Mouse For Computer PC Laptop Accessories: $37

    Hard Drive Disk 1TB Solid State Drives for Laptop Desktop 240GB 120GB: $35 1 TB

    LEAVEN K620 Wired Mechanical Keyboard 61 Keys RGB Lights Green Axis ESports Gaming Office Personality Key Computer Accessories
    Extra 5% off: $15

    https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yzbkcf/fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-rd-w: $53

    Total: $483 vs 500 for a PS5/XBOX on Amazon

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      https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805462164699.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.21522e76SACqG8&algo_pvid=d1d50e55-f8c6-4d96-8d08-9bccb7de00e2&algo_exp_id=d1d50e55-f8c6-4d96-8d08-9bccb7de00e2-0&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2120.26%2110.12%21%21%21%21%21%40211bf14716871588939425319d082f%2112000033880772697%21sea%21US%214562251622&curPageLogUid=KUhfZYKuM69w

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        your first link is broken and none of the others show a rx5700xt for $115. also lmao at 10$ keyboard and where is the case? where are the fans? where is the power supply? homie you can pilpul all you want but the hard cold truth is a 500$ pc can't hold a candle against a ps5. it's not even close.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >conveniently fails to mention that the PS5 is really only $400

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Digital edition doesn't count because it just doesn't, okay?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Digital edition doesn't count because it just doesn't, okay?

        I just searched PS5 on amazon, I'm seeing one for 460 there, so you can swap the mouse to a Razer DeathAdder essential and that should be exactly 459. You can also switch the graphics card to a 580 for -30, then if you use the alieexpress coupons I believe you get -40 in the summer sale on orders over $200, so that would be 390 total. Nvm forgot PSU, so lowest I can think of is 460

        PSU?

        Yeah I forgot PSU https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4FH48d/evga-600-w1-600-w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-100-w1-0600-k1 + $70

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can order a digital edition off walmart right now for $400. There are more sites than Amazon anon.

          You literally can not beat the price of a PS5.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804854522169.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.5.42252ab6Bzxos0&algo_pvid=5d1bca51-4870-40f8-992d-8ae0150cd8b2&algo_exp_id=5d1bca51-4870-40f8-992d-8ae0150cd8b2-2&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%2136.05%2113.34%21%21%21%21%21%4021224cdb16871584331655883d074e%2112000031425046613%21sea%21US%214562251622&curPageLogUid=IqoytIn75uhT 256 gb -20

            https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dgndnQ/thermaltake-versa-h18-microatx-mini-tower-case-ca-1j4-00s1wn-01 -10

            remove the mousepad -8

            https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wbhj4D/thermaltake-smart-500w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0500npcwus-w -26

            Then you're sitting at $396

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >aliexpress ssd
              I play on PC too but you don't need to try and sell the guy absolute garbage to own the PS5.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Goldenfir is totally good quality SSD sir, do not be bad mouthing it bloody.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                sir do the needful and delete this post
                bad morning

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wow coo so now I can order all these shitty back-ally parts and put it all together myself, pirate windows, and play without a mousepad all to save… $4.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                A PC made with cheap parts can do a lot more than a Gaystation boy.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah like burning your house down. I’m here to play video games motherfricker not coding shit. I can surf Ganker on my phone.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't need to know how to code to run windows you dip. Setting up an emulator is something we all did as children playing on Zsnes or what have you. You can objectively play more games with more options for FREE on a PC. Or you can pay for it if you want as well, but there are objectively more games to play than on a basic b***h gaystation. No coding necessary. But that's just games. I assume you've never worked a day in your life so you don't understand the utility of having a computer but if you had any sense of professionalism that's what you'd opt for. A gaming console is for literal children.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >aliexpress

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can find them even cheaper on like facebook marketplace. I live in a major metro and there are disk PS5's all day for 350.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, that price is without tax. Because you morons love getting corporately fricked in the ass and think prices not actually being what they're advertised as, is perfectly okay.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            > DRM, pay subscription eternally edition

            hahaahahahahahaha. They should make that thing 0 euro and it would still be a bad deal to me.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      PSU?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >heh just buy all the parts from some shady backwater websites, this way it's cheaper xD
      All these parts cost the double in actual online retailers

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        works in my machine

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >newegg
        >amazon
        Please fricking have a nice day

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not just using the keyboard and mouse your parents office threw out 20 years ago

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    not really anymore, maybe a little, if you price out the builds its pretty close to what you could do yourself.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eh only a little these days. I will say you will almost always get higher quality parts that are less likely to break over time if you build. The performance might be the same, but you might be kicking yourself for not opting for a higher quality PSU, RAM, SSD, or Mobo in the future. Plus it’s always very helpful to know how to upgrade your hardware and building teaches you how.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what parts do I need to wire my laptop hard drive to my pc? is it one sata cable or two for both openings? Do I need a case or it will be fine?

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No duh. Not sure where you guys are getting these cheap ass prebuilts unless its some scam Russian site

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i7-6700K
    >1070

    Should I just build a new one for Starfield or wait a year til they Iron out the bugs?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know there is no amount of "ironing out" that's going to make that work

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      PC MASTER RACE

      • 11 months ago
        Sauceman

        Sex with azula!

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bad choice. her nose is too big.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The 14th gen of intel CPUs is coming out in a few months, so if you wait until July or something, you can probably get the 13th gen for cheap. It's a huge leap, so totally worth it at this point. i7-6700K is starting to get old at this point, although it will still be alright for most games if you pick them right.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please don't get fussy, but, basically, I'm just not gonna build anything. Sorry! I'm going to buy a gaming laptop and skip all of that hard work and enjoy games with a single push of a button, please understand, I just hate inconvenience and I have the money. Once again, sawwwwy!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      God you're pathetic.Like someone being proud of not knowing how to change a tire.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So, thing is, it's like, I have a job which allows me to earn money (universal exchange thingie) which allows me to not do stuff myself and resolve problems like magic while contributing to the economy. So when I need a tire changed I just call a specialist person and have them do the hard work for me. Once again, sorry for that!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So, thing is, it's like,
          stopped reading

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn't have a self built desktop and a gaming laptop
      ngmi

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, thing is, it's like, I have a job which allows me to earn money (universal exchange thingie) which allows me to not do stuff myself and resolve problems like magic while contributing to the economy. So when I need a tire changed I just call a specialist person and have them do the hard work for me. Once again, sorry for that!

      what a weird larp

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has better quality for a given price. So it's either cheaper if you cut the same corners as pre-builts or better if you don't. Pre-builts use subpar parts for anything that isn't the CPU and GPU because that's all normalgays look at.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you've never taken a Dremel to some of your pc parts you don't deserve to call yourself a gamer.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    doesn't matter if you have to slap windows on it
    and you have to do that
    so it's fricking pointless

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ganker now pays for windows
      dead

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've always paid the $5 for a windows key, what's wrong with that

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't just install windows 6 deluxe (no cutscenes) by Ivan free backdoor edition
          ngmi

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    no but you can easily buy and play games from any gen these days because every modern game is getting released on PC and you wont have to go through ebay scammers if you wanna pick up some old shit

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No it's not because no one goes out of their way to buy;
    >shitty case
    >shitty psu
    >shitty motherboard
    >shitty ram
    >shitty fans
    >shitty cpu cooler
    >shitty oem graphics card
    >shitty slow low capacity ssd
    So I guess if you really need a shitty computer then prebuilt is technically cheaper.

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is ... ordering a whole new pc from friend's shop, let him do all the work and still pay a good price considered a pre-built ?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but supporting a friends business is based

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        only if said friend returns the favor and doesn't price-gouge his friend.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >let him do all the work
      tbh part of the reason to get a custom rig at all versus a prebuilt is the actual experience of putting the rig itself together

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd agree if i didn't do it in a good 12 years and putting an aio for the first time, also my cable management sucks, but i reckon it's easy now, especially if you got something like a 4000x from Corsair.

        I got my last pc built. I picked out all the parts and then the company builds it for you.

        It worked out like €100 dearer than having to source every item and build it myself so I was happy to pay that

        Nice, what Pc you got there fren ?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on if giving a blowjob is part of the price

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I got my last pc built. I picked out all the parts and then the company builds it for you.

      It worked out like €100 dearer than having to source every item and build it myself so I was happy to pay that

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The Chinese bought Newegg several years ago
    >Might as well just buy from the Chinese directly via AliExpress

    desperate times

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FRICK I didn't realize they were bought out by China and I've bought many parts from them

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >build pc myself
    >wont post
    >frick
    >after hours upon hours of trial and error, turns out a stick of ram is faulty
    >have to RMA it
    >wait weeks for a replacement
    vs
    >build a custom pc online
    >pay like $120 for a shop to assemble it
    >comes with warranty
    >if anything fricks up within 3 years, take it straight there and they fix it for free
    ill take the latter

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >getting filtered by deditated WAM
      NGMI

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paying for assembly after handpicking parts is not really pre-built. The point of pre-builts is that you're not choosing the parts and that sellers abuse it by cutting corners everywhere because their customers are those who are too intimated to look into parts.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Really the only point of doing everything yourself these days is if you're a cable management autist or don't trust anyone else to do it. Either that or custom water cooling as getting a company to do that ends up being quite a lot. Now there are so many places that will charge you barely anything extra to assemble a rig if you pick out the parts which imo is better than self assembly because you get a warranty. Which is void if you change any parts however which kind of sucks

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I invented a story that literally can't happen and is entierely my fault if you look at it but THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU ARE LE BAD BUY AT COSCO YOU NAZI CHUD
      calm down and go have a nice day in silence, golem

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >next time if it happens you know exactly what to do
      >save yourself 120$
      Not like any of it is going to happen to begin with. Faulty out of the box components are rare.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That comparison is unfair.
      In both cases, something out of your control is broken and gets fixed for free, but for some reason you say you have to "wait weeks" in the first scenario, but they just "fix it" (no time given) in the second one.
      The only difference between the two scenarios is that you paid $120 more in one of them.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can't post cause 1 faulty RAM stick
      lol cmon at worst everything would work but you'd get constant bsods

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dad bought my brother two pre-builts that didn't work right out of the box, and then just said frick it and bought a bunch of parts and assembled it himself. When it comes to just buying parts, the good thing is that you can usually very easily narrow it down to a single factor, and treat it properly. Whereas with a pre-built you literally have to ship the entire thing and wait for them to send you one back (if they even have them in stock) and be left with nothing in the meantime.

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    These days, buying a prebuild is like paying extra for someone to take the tags off your clothes. It takes no time at all and it's basically impossible to frick up. Although with todays prices I imagine the premium is negligible outside barefaced ripoffs like Alienware.

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How hard would it be to make some scratch on the side just... putting together compys for people...

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      In this economy? You'd need to find some rich mother suckers. Seems like it'd be hard to cut a profit as well.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      depends where you are, but where I am it's exceptionally hard to make money doing that
      you're almost guaranteed to find some indian guy that is happy to do the same job at half the price... very fricking badly mind you, but morons can't tell the difference, and that's mostly who you'll be catering to.

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Buy pre-built for 3k
    >They cheap out on numerous parts
    >Could have built the exact same PC but with non-Chinesium shit in it for a thousand less or more

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give me some good UK based websites for prebuilts.

    I wanna drop 3k on another PC to last me another 6+ years.

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care if you all clown on me, temu and alliexpress have been the best thing that has come around in a while. I've saved way more than I thought I would buying from them so your loss I'd you're going to be randomly derogatory. I mean where do you think the PS5 and Xbox are made...

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree 100% sir, we will all being doing the needful and shopping from AliExpress kindly, very good parts

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you're going to shitpost at least mention Indiamart.

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been building all my computers myself and I got kind of tired of figuring out what the new parts are and I never give a frick about cable management, also sometimes just frick up asembling

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, anything you can do yourself is cheaper than the alternative.

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, always has been and always will be

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its cheaper to build a computer yourself, as opposed to buying a prebuilt computer

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You overestimate the average intelligence and mechanical skills of your general Gankertard

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        meant for

        You literally cannot frick up

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've built 3 PCs from scratch, the only difficulty is not buying parts that won't work together.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just watch one of the thousands tutorials on youtube and follow along.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I built my own computer. I'm just saying people have fricked it up before and some people go full moron in moments like

          >tfw repeatedly do the hair-raising task of seating the CPU and absolutely cramming down the heatsink onto it and really tightening those screw thingies onto the PCB so fricking tight you're almost certain you feel like it ought to fricking snap something you've put so much pressure on it

          yet nothing catastrophic ever happened. Nothing snapped, no pins were bent

          Or the guy earlier who couldn't figure things out because his memory was bad. Some morons can't even get their shit to turn on.

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gaming laptops are where it’s at now

  53. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Prices have evened out relatively so yeah. You can snag a 4060TI for less than $500 now. Compare that to the last few years where your equivalent GPU was pushing $1000.

  54. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's definitely worth it. It's cheaper, you learn how to do it for future which means you can troubleshoot any problems or upgrade as you please, only takes a few hours to learn how, parts are very durable, you still have a massive returns leeway. I had a part break a few years ago, literally sent back half my pc to amazon. They sent me the replacement parts before I did anything, I didn't even know what was the faulty part.

  55. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    prebuilts still ship with mediocre PSUs at best, ticking firebombs at worst
    spending $30 extra today on a quality PSU means you save $50 3-4 years from now when your PSU inevitably croaks, possibly >$200 if it takes down the mobo with it
    not only that, you can perfectly reuse the PSU for a new build when you discard your current one
    so yes, it is cheaper

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Never skim out on a PSU.
      I went through 3 """cheap""" ones in a year because they kept breaking and would straight up turn off my GPU.
      Bought a numeral PSU and i've been using it for the last 10 years with no issues.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's also the one component that is actually "never obsolete"
      Suboptimal, slightly less energy efficient, maybe, but it's going to do what it's supposed to do forever unless there's a thunder strike or something crazy like that.
      My seasonic gold PSU is 12 years old, has gone through 2 builds and is still trucking along, will likely go into a third if my laptop dies. Absolutely worth the money and the 6 week wait while it was out of stock.

  56. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only difficult part about building a PC is connecting those tiny "power" and "reset" connectors to the motherboard.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hardly, unless you have cerebral palsy.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be ableist, chud.
        If Michael J. Fox wants to assemble his own computer he should be allowed to.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The connectors are kinda obstructed by the GPU and unless you have tiny hands it's a chore to get in there.
        I also said "the hardest", the difficulty is still relative to everything else you do, which isn't hard.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          hook up the front panel before putting the GPU in then my homie

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then the connectors get in the way of the card a lot of the times

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then the connectors get in the way of the card a lot of the times

      with those new enormous GPUs it's actually moronicly difficult to do, I feel your pain
      especially when you have those stupid mini mobos

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hadn't even considered microATX, my mistake. Come to think of it, I don't think I've actually seen one in real life before.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I had one, they suck, it's even worse trying to get a decent heatsink on + GPU + ram, my last PC i literally couldn't use the first channel from my ram because it was completely blocked by even the tiny stock heatsinks

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Insane that after building a £1000 rig the very last part is plugging in those tiny power connectors, they don't seem rigid at all

  57. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, building one isn’t even hard anymore if you can build a Lego model you can build a computer.

  58. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Graphics card alone costs $2000.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Update your memes.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      A 300 dollar gpu mogs the PS5

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you buying THE best one?
      You dont even need it

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Poorgay mentality

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just shy of $500 converted.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is is the best value card you can get now?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s literally worse than the 3060ti so no

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol Nvidia is determined to frick up this gen as much as they can, don't they?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            In some games it gets like 10-20 more FPS over a 3060 Ti, but yeah most games it's getting like 5 extra FPS at most, and you're gong to be paying 100-200 more for it. It's honestly criminal that Nvidia is charging 500 bucks for that shit when it should be this generation's xx50 Ti model at best.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >using FPS numbers instead of percentages
              moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a koenigsegg agera costs 1.5 million so I'll stick to walking thanks

  59. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you still get cases that you can put Blu-ray drives in?

  60. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hardly true during the covid GPU fricked price era which is still sort of the same now. I got a prebuilt with a 3080 around that time since it was far cheaper than getting a GPU separately along with everything else. My old PC had not much to be salvaged besides the storage and I was eyeing an upgrade for a while.

    The thing is you would need to use prebuild sites that let you pick the parts custom instead of everything being picked for you. I heard horror stories about ibuypower but the PC I got from there was everything I wanted really. I probably bought during a shit time but considering the prices of GPUs are still fricked I feel validated not waiting and am happy with what I got.

  61. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still is for me thanks to my 8700K.

  62. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, I was about to buy a prebuilt but my buddy made me a parts list and I did save 400€, gave him a fifth of whisky for the trouble of that and putting it together

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I helped a friend build their new PC as well.
      His first upgrade in like 8 years, still had a 970 in his rig.
      Not sure how much i saved because prebuilt was never even an option to consider.

  63. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, that statement still holds true.
    Is it more convenient than buying a pre-build? Maybe not, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature shouldn't have any problems assembling a PC from scratch.

  64. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    PC do exist for tons of porn storage and I'm tired of pretending it's not

  65. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So when are we getting new RT APIs that aren't RTX, I want to switch to AMD.

  66. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    To me it's not even the price. If I save a bit okay cool but what is more important is the feeling of building your own PC. Like it makes it more unique. It's your thing and not some block you bought from store.

  67. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cheaper
    not necessarily
    >more cost/performance effective
    yeah

  68. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    in a pre-build they will always skimp out on something even if the specs look nice on paper. Don't let ((them)) get ya

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, prebuilts always try to cheap out as much as possible but stupid zoomers who can barely use file manager have no idea and get scammed.

  69. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pre-builts all still come with DDR4 RAM when DDR5 is now widely available

    This alone is reason enough to build and I’m surprised no one else has mentioned it.

  70. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I decided to build my own pc this month. I cheaped out on the GPU since I don't plan on playing many modern games. I'm beginning to this I spent way too much for my specs though.

    I chose the parts on pcpartpicker while streaming my screen a friend who has a pc so I'll just blame him if I really got scammed

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post parts

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VwBqKp

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean it is extremely on the low end and if you ever want to upgrade, you'll have to replace everything again.
          What were you planning to do with the PC anyway?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well I basically skipped out on the whole ps4 gen so I just wanna play stuff I missed from that time period.

            Is it really that low end? I know the 1660 is a fairly old gpu but I didn't know it was that bad.
            Also why would have to replace everything if I upgrade? I guess my friend really did frick me over.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              He didn't really frick you over, he just did what you asked.
              The problem is that new CPUs will need a new socket, which means that you will have to replace the motherboard again and probably the PSU as well.
              It's not really an issue, depending on how often you plan to upgrade, if you upgrade once every 10 years, then by that time it would've been obsolete anyway, no matter what you got.
              165 Hz Monitor is maybe overkill too. You're not going to reach those frames.

              It's enough for the PS4 gen though. I have a very similar setup with a 1070 and an Ryzen 5 2600 myself and it worked just fine. It is 6 years old at this point though.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              AM4 is a dead platform, so your cpu upgrade path is either 5800X3D (not that significant for most purposes), or buying new mobo+ram. AM5 is still very expensive compared to the actual gains in performance though, so I don't consider it a horrible decision.
              430W may not be enough depending on what you want to upgrade to in the future (especially since it's on the low end quality wise as well)
              128 GB ssd is hardly enough now. Can't even fit a modern bloated game with OS on it as well. I hope you didn't pay the $80 for a 1 TB HDD. You can get a 1 TB SSD for less than that.
              I dunno if a cheapo cpu cooler with 100mm fan is even worth it over AMD stock cooler if you're that short on money.
              Case can be reused at least.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You could have done a lot better. The 1tb harddrive for $80 is a shit deal, could have gotten a 2tb ssd for that price. The CPU cooler wasn't needed because the stock cooler with the 5500 is adequate for that processor. You could have gotten an RX6600xt which is more powerful than your gpu for the same price. That PSU is prebuilt tier too.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            AM4 is a dead platform, so your cpu upgrade path is either 5800x3D (not that significant for most purposes), or buying new mobo+ram. AM5 is still very expensive compared to the actual gains in performance though, so I don't consider it a horrible decision.
            430W may not be enough depending on what you want to upgrade to in the future (especially since it's on the low end quality wise as well)
            128 GB ssd is hardly enough now. Can't even fit a modern bloated game with OS on it as well. I hope you didn't pay the $80 for a 1 TB HDD. You can get a 1 TB SSD for less than that.
            I dunno if a cheapo cpu cooler with 100mm fan is even worth it over AMD stock cooler if you're that short on money.
            Case can be reused at least.

            He didn't really frick you over, he just did what you asked.
            The problem is that new CPUs will need a new socket, which means that you will have to replace the motherboard again and probably the PSU as well.
            It's not really an issue, depending on how often you plan to upgrade, if you upgrade once every 10 years, then by that time it would've been obsolete anyway, no matter what you got.
            165 Hz Monitor is maybe overkill too. You're not going to reach those frames.

            It's enough for the PS4 gen though. I have a very similar setup with a 1070 and an Ryzen 5 2600 myself and it worked just fine. It is 6 years old at this point though.

            Ah shit, well its too late now because I already bought the parts. Guess I need to do more research next time.

  71. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm sure this was true pre-crypto bullshit
    when i was in need of a new computer during the height of that i tried making a mid-tier pc on pcpartpicker and it was totalling at around 1000
    bestbuy meanwhile had a deal for a prebuilt for 700
    i plugged in all the parts that it came with and it was around 1200
    i'm sure they fricked me on lower-quality parts, but it's been running smoothly so i can't really complain

  72. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My brother is a complete loser autist who refuses to build a PC and insists that he just wants a prebuilt. I tried to convince him but to no avail. At least I want to point him to a decent pre-built. What’s the best site to buy from these days? I’ve heard good things about NZXT.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      many places offer the service to build and set up the PC for you after you pick the parts. Is that something he'd be open to trying?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Possibly but haven’t looked into any local places.

  73. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >entry level enthusiast build
    >WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S $1000???
    lol
    lmao
    So much for being an "enthusiast."

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Entry level enthusiast
      Ah yes,
      Oxymoron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Once you factor in the cost of paying to use your own internet to play multiplayer games over the course of the gen, a $1000 PC really isn't that much more. Not to mention that 1000 dollar PC is likely going to beat whatever Pro model refresh they release halfway through the gen.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're assuming every person plays multiplayer. I have spent a whopping $30 on Xbox Live and $10 on PS+ in the past decade and a half. Unless you are playing multiplayer games every single day for every single month of your life there is no reason to ever include that nonsensical argument as justification for any sort of cost.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Some of us have friends we play Co op games with anon

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You play them frequently enough that the cost of online is an actual footnote in your spending? You can get XBL for free due to their rewards system and PS+ 1 years are like $30 on sale constantly.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you want to play with them even once the cost has to be added, you don't get charged based on how much you play.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Point being that it would take well over 10 years for you to hit a $1000 PC cost if you were paying for PS+ every single year since $40 sales are even easier to find than $30 sales for a year. If you are just going to play for one month then up until like a year or two ago buying one month was $5. You can't in good conscience argue that every single person is buying $60 yearly subscriptions because not everyone plays multiplayer or co-op, and even if they do there's sales on year subscriptions and three month subscriptions so often that you'd have to intentionally ignore every website that does them.

                Like I said, I have spent a total of $35 or $40 across a decade and a half on a PS4 and Xbox One for the online. In my situation I have spent less that what

                Once you factor in the cost of paying to use your own internet to play multiplayer games over the course of the gen, a $1000 PC really isn't that much more. Not to mention that 1000 dollar PC is likely going to beat whatever Pro model refresh they release halfway through the gen.

                is arguing despite having bought two individual systems and even saved money compared to his $1000 PC. This is also assuming I paid full price for both systems, when I got my Xbox One X brand new for $300 and my PS4 Pro brand new for $400. So in reality I saved $250 compared to that example and both systems still play recent games better than a $1000 PC in 2013 would.

  74. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Putting together my pc
    >Case design is shit and has literally no room for the gpu bracket when you're putting it so it grazes the motherboard the whole way while you slide it into place
    >Putting in GPU
    >Cat knocks down a bunch of plates in the kitchen and a few shattered
    >I jump
    >Scratch Mobo
    >Panic and plug everything in real quickly to test it
    >Boot loop
    It was actually because I forgot to plug the PCIE cable into the gpu

  75. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once upon a time it was, but now it's not.
    What sucks is the electronic waste involved with keeping your old computer around.

  76. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, when I built a computer a few years ago I actually bought a prebuilt PC to harvest the graphics card and sold the prebuilt with my old graphics card for a $200 loss, got a $800 card for $200 basically. Overall, my computer was cheaper than that prebuilt, even after reselling it, and had better specs.

  77. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends.
    You can do a no-gpu set up these days, and it's cheaper than buying a PC, and you can still play a ton of games.
    But with how the GPU market is now in general it might be marginally cheaper to buy a prebuilt if you want a gpu since OEMs get deals on graphics cards in bulk and can afford to sell you the part without moronicly overcharging you for it.
    Especially if you want Nvidia since their target end user market are scalping morons.

  78. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Slightly less than before

  79. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was, but honestly pre-built PCs are so normalized its not that big of a difference.

    Though you can still save a ton just replacing your parts.

  80. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    99% of the prices problem are the GPU, aren't they? Even SSDs now are super affordable.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yup

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ATX AM5 mobos start at $200

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Motherboard that exists for a single generation of cpus (that no entry level cpus exist for) is expensive
        NOOOO WAIII

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        mATX AM5 mainboards can be found for sub-$100.

  81. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be on b450 mobo
    Is 5800x worth the 20 burgers more than the 5600x?

  82. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    unironically yes. I bought a pre built for 300 and it was still on fricking ddr3 with gt1030. if you buy off ebay you can get a more powerful build for the exact same price.

  83. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I build PCs for people, and I charge $50 for it. But I live in central Europe, so I imagine that in the USA or western Europe, the cost is higher. That being said, I try my best and do not try to save money on power supplies, SSDs, and RAMs. But it is still 50 dollars that, if you did build it yourself, you could use on, say, a better case or a bigger SSD.

  84. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rent for businesses is outrageous in my city.
    They pass that on to the customer so even shitty computers are massively over priced.

    It always makes sense to buy PC parts online and just assemble them yourself in this stupid country.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >buying anything locally ever
      I hope nobody does this.

  85. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, but not by much.

  86. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy parts
    >pay a store or a technician to put it all together
    This is the safe approach.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This basically,plus if anything happens you can call them since you are a client now and they know your situation

  87. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is, you can, as well, skimp out on the MOBO, RAM, PSU, the case, etc. get the cheapest GPU cooler/PCB manufacturer.
    Making it cheap is not hard at all, getting a PC that'll last you a very long time is, especially if you're moronic and don't know what the frick goes on in there.
    I often have to visit my gamer friends to fix their shit because they're moronic and brought prebuilts, hell, they don't even dare to clean the damn thing.

    But hey, I get it, we all got tons of cash, saving time is nice when possible, but the best part of owning a PC is building it yourself, nothing beats that feeling.
    And I will shame you if you buy prebuilts, because you're a filthy casual.

  88. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, still cheaper.
    No matter how cheap the prefab looks and how good a deal it appears to be, if you were to make a build with equivalent actual performance to that prefab, it would be cheaper to build it yourself. The problem is that you don't necessarily know what kind of mystery meat you're getting unless you build it yourself.

  89. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Technically it is, comparing building a pc yourself vs a prebuilt is how much you value the time but it also has a cascading effect of you becoming more competent at similar activiites, in the future you might fix something yourself instead of paying someone else

  90. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like building my own PC but why in the frick do they keep doing this shit? This is always the most annoying part.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I normally ditch hdd leds, pointless in this day + my case isn't somewhere i can actually see it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it's really weird they haven't just combined it into a single plug.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Great Filter.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Something mostly obtuse and unnecessary and some moron on Ganker takes pride in something like it like it's some form of skill despite being a basic point of completion?
        Yeah, I'd say it's a "filter".

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          All you have to do is check your mobo specs. Most are even nice enough to print it on the board. If you can't read then I am sorry but you did get filtered.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >finish building
      >everything works fine
      >click reset button
      >nothing happens
      Every fricking time.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think I've ever used the reset button on a PC in my life.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          this, the only thing i use is the power button, everything else is unnecessary bloat

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Used to be a lot more useful when blue screens were so prevalent.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >literally just look in the mobo's manual for the designated pin for each connector, and that's assuming it's not already stenciled on the board itself
      >AIEEE GankerSAMA SAVE ME
      just get a prebuilt, or pay the $30 to have the shop assemble it for you

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon what you're doing is the equivalent of bragging to a room of people that think it's unpleasant to have your hand stuck in a jar of salt and barbed wire.
        Telling them that they couldn't handle it.
        And you're at the meeting FOR people with their hands stuck in jars full of barbed wire and salt.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          No.
          Deal with your illiteracy first, then read the fricking manual.
          Or pay for someone to do it. Schizoing about what people do is not gonna assemble your toaster.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            We've all built computers here dumbass, if we hadn't we wouldn't be saying it's dumb and annoying.
            You're not special nor cool.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >compares building a puter to sticking your hand stuck in a jar of salt and barbed wire
              never claimed to be either
              but you sure are "special"
              and deserve the best spot in the special needs short bus

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't understand metaphors

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You used hyperbole, not metaphor. Clearly it is you who doesn't understand either.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hyperbole is a form of metaphor, you double moron

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://lmgtfy.app/?q=metaphor+merriam
                https://lmgtfy.app/?q=hyperbole+merriam
                also, RTFM
                also, go frick yourself

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Difference only exists in poetic writing as a deliberately choice.
                Rhetorically hyperbole is a derivative of metaphor.
                >unironically posting a lmgtfy

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I use words with the meaning I want them to have
                Concession accepted. Bye.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Meaningfully separate hyperbole from being a derivative of metaphor without using poetic writing rules.
                Tip: You can't.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yo momma so fat she broke the bed farting.
                Pure exaggeration, no metaphor, analogue, simile or poetry involved.
                Now kindly go frick yourself.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                wtf is that link

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can read, it's just that I have pretty big hands and typically when I put one of these together it's smooshed up against the side of the case where it's a pain in the ass to put them in so I have to fiddle with tweezers and hope they all decide to stay in place while I'm finishing it. I'm aware they're like this because panels aren't standardized, but would it really be that difficult to include like a little plastic clip you can insert them into to make it less of a pain in the ass to plug in?

          >the absolute fricking state of the universe
          It's over...

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can read, it's just that I have pretty big hands and typically when I put one of these together it's smooshed up against the side of the case where it's a pain in the ass to put them in so I have to fiddle with tweezers and hope they all decide to stay in place while I'm finishing it. I'm aware they're like this because panels aren't standardized, but would it really be that difficult to include like a little plastic clip you can insert them into to make it less of a pain in the ass to plug in?

  91. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes because you can buy the exact hardware that caters to your requirements unlike prebuilts where it's unoptimized for what it's marketed for but is still too much for what you want

  92. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    idk
    i am building a crt computer with more modern specs
    and shit costs only a bit cheaper than just buying a regular computer
    still think it's worth it tho
    i love having my dream computer

  93. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    really depends on what you want to achieve.

  94. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's like making your own home made food vs going for takeaway food. With takeaway, sure it might taste nice but the restaurant don't care about the food being healthy and the wagie who makes it could frick up in some way. Whereas, if you make your own food you choose the exact ingredients, can make it way healthier and you know exactly how it was made

  95. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its not about cheaper, its about getting best components. If your system isnt better than prebuilds you wasted time for nothing.

    Personally i minmax watt efficiency so it runs as silent as possible.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, but is the difference really THAT great, though? like, if i got a medium rig and another rig that had the best components but where the gpu and the cou was the same in both rigs, what would the difference be in games? i really doubt having the best ram and the best ssd is going to make that much of a difference.

  96. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy parts + have the shop put it up (which they charge for)
    vs
    >buy parts and assemble myself
    not hard to see which is cheaper

  97. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy a $500 console
    >it supports AAA games for the next 9-10 years
    >clean it once every 3-4 years (takes 5 minutes), just werks

    >buy a $500 PC
    >it can run AAA games with stable framerate and low-mid graphics settings for the next 2-3 years, afterwards it won't be able to hold 30 FPS in 720p, every single component has already degraded and you have to replace everything except for the case and the monitor
    the only argument for PC gayming is the lack of paid multiplayer, but multiplayer games are for stupid people anyways

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is such a bullshit argument. My laptop is 10y old and i still play games on it. It only started showing it's age with these new rtx enabled bullshit releases that makes everything unoptimized.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd believe you up until the 'laptop' part. A 10 years old laptop running AAA games, my ass. Unless just getting to the main menu is running a game in your opinion, you're talking out of your ass.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't play CoD or EA games if that's what you're talking about. I don't know what AAA are out there to play. I have 200h of Elden Ring if that counts.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >playing AAA
          You don't even like video games, do you?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >dude, PC is soo much better than consoles
            >uh, a PC that costs as much as a new PS5? sure, you'll be able to play... Touhou 12... and other acclaimed games..

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I can only play the latest mainstream titles on the latest hardware or I'm being left behind
              You know what? You're right. For your case, PC is bad. Stick to your $500 console, so you can play the "game" on low settings at sub-900p25fps just so you can engage in the watercooler talk with the other soibois at work tomorrow over your current life-avoiding digital distraction product.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah dood all those ultra settings make mom wet

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >game runs like shit
                >game looks like shit
                >game is shit
                >but can talk about game with other balding homosexuals at work in between mandatory HR meetings about the breakroom's communal LGBT pride flag-colored buttplugs

                Yeah. No thanks. I'll stick to my videogames as a hobby.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you still playing AAA slop
      Normalgays are meant to be on reddit not on here

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, when I'm talking about longevity and affordability of consoles, I don't think about shitty RPG maker games that could run on a fricking DS. (unlike PC tards, lel)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every single component has already degraded and you have to replace everything except for the case and the monitor
      Power supply and memory doesn't need to be replaced outside of switching your OS to an SSD if you're somehow still running HDD. Not to mention that's not how generations work, sure if you're upgrading to the latest with ddr5 shit you'll need to replace the motherboard and ram but you can easily upgrade within your generation and see improvements from the initial build through a new CPU or slapping in more or faster ram. Also unless you're using an xbone emulation is also a huge bonus for going pc instead of consoles.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>buy a $500 console
      >>it supports AAA games for the next 9-10 years
      it once every 3-4 years (takes 5 minutes), just werks

      lel. no one games on a console for ten whole years. maybe seven, maximum.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Elden Ring, Resident Evil 4, Dead Island 2, Diablo 4, Hogwarts Legacy, the list goes on - some of the biggest games of this decade are available on Xbox One (500 dollars) and PS4 (400 dollars at launch), consoles released in 2013. Show me a $400 PC from 2013 running games released in the past three years with more than 15 frames per second.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >all that shit
          You don't like video games, either.

  98. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's definitely not easy. many ways you can frick up by just static charge, CPU, incompatible items, underwattage, or shit that plain doesnt fit, bad airflow etc. I'm missing quite a few things I'm sure.

    I always just hire some nerd to do it for me for 150 euro, get all the excellent parts I need for my enormous custom built zombie PC. Doing it all myself is a fricking hassle, why bother with all that shit when I just need a serious upgrade every 8 years or so.

    Ofcourse, replacing a GRAca or ram is something I can do myself, but even there you can frick up.

  99. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just checked NewEgg and I notice under a bunch of the prebuilts GPU section it says (Brand may vary)
    >Spending 2000+ on a rig and getting a ZOTAC
    Buying prebuilts is now official gacha tier

  100. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Having a PC you put yourself together is the bare, bare minimum entry fee for being considered a person.

  101. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Just about finished building the rig
    >Have to plug in the little cables
    >They're blocked by everything else
    >Or in a stupid spot
    >Hands aren't Asian girl sized so it's a pain in the ass
    Honestly makes me wanna kms

    Also my heatsink is so big I have to take it off to swap Ram lol

  102. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its cheapest to build enough funds for a console unless you live in a(third world) country where your corrupt government taxes their sales. sucks for you guys lmao

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you can afford the expensive thing, it actually means you're poor!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      why in the world would I buy a game console if I haven't been underage for years?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because adults don't want to sit at a desk to game

  103. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a 2000$ prebuilt(pick your own parts, they assemble) during the black Friday weekend for only 1200$, I used Newegg, Amazon and PC parts picker to look at the cost of building the exact same PC myself, and lo and behold even with the 99$ assembly fee I was still saving 300$. Why the frick would I build it myself in this case? Especially considering I already have experience building/maintaining PCs

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >(pick your own parts, they assemble)
      That's not a prebuilt, genius
      A prebuilt is assembled from pieces the brand chose, not you, and shipped in bulk to retailers who sell them to the average joe
      You know this and you're just arguing semantics for amusement

  104. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spend $60 for oil change
    Spend $200 for tools to change yourself

    Even if it is more expensive you can use things in your next build to make it cheaper in the long run.

    >Thermal paste wont go bad
    >Cpu fans have brackets for compatibility
    >ATX case is ATX case
    >Power supply depending on draw
    >Ram can usually stretch 2 builds before something faster is needed (DDR4 lasted 8+ years)

    I can buy a I7 motherboard combo with DDR5 ram for $450 and use most of the above for a substantial upgrade.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >oil change "tools"
      Are you fricking serious?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Car jack and stands - $100
        >Oil and filter - $30
        >Filter wrench - $10

        homie you not lifting the car with your hands and turning a torqued filter.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >car comes with jack
          >if you don't already have a socket wrench you're a homosexual
          >filter wrenches are $8 at home depot
          You're paying for the oil and filter anyway.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>if you don't already have a socket wrench you're a homosexual

            That was the point of my post you goofy b***h. You already have the tools to make it cheaper next time

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Every man should already have the tools, and I think most homosexuals would have them, too. You're literally more useless than a woman if you don't have tools already.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are autist levels of insane. You think people are just born with tools and extra computer parts?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just go to the store and buy some, pussy.

                Your dad called you a sissy homosexual when you were 12 or something, didn't he?

                No, but he said you were.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've never had a homie agree with me this aggresively ha. I literally said buy the parts and it will be cheaper overtime.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This isn't twitter. You're not black.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your dad called you a sissy homosexual when you were 12 or something, didn't he?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hold car with one hand
          >unbolt plug with the other
          >catch oil in mouth for a tasty beverage
          casul

  105. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is indeed cheaper because doing it yourself results in just the cost of the parts, whereas prebuilds are the cost of the parts plus a fee for putting it together. Established custom PC companies are able to get components at a lower cost than you would be able to yourself, because of things like bulk discounts, but that is almost always offset by the build fee.
    Another thing to consider is the actual value of what you are paying for. Custom PC companies know that their main customer base are people that are less tech-savvy, specifically people who really only know to care about the "big" components like the GPU and who will see advertising like "Fantastic 3080TI Nvidia gaming PC" and go for it without actually looking at what's in the rest of the system. This means that custom PCs often come with lower spec components than an equally priced self-made one, with things like the ram, cooling, and even the GPU itself (shitty blower cards instead of better quality versions) all falling short. You essential run the risk of paying more for less.

    PC vs console is an entirely different kettle of fish. Which is cheaper is irrelevant, because they are both serving completely different audiences. You build a PC when you want a computer that does computer things that you can also game on, with the knowledge that you can gradually upgrade it over time and that you can potentially have games run at higher resolutions or frame rates. You buy a console because you want plug and play, access to exclusives, access to console only features, and the assurance that every game you buy will run with no issues and that the system itself will last up to or exceeding an entire decade (depending on when in its product cycle you bought it).

    Hope this helps someone make an informed purchase

  106. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not even sure it is anymore, prices have exploded and the competition in prebuilt have led margins to shrink a lot. Just the warranty you get with a prebuilt might make up most or all of the difference.

  107. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    not really. I managed to spend like 150% percent of a prebuilt's price because I'm mentally moronic. At the same time you can be scammed by prebuilts too if you don't know what to look out for, choosing a last gen cpu if the newest gen is available for roughly the same price is just a scam, there is no reason not to pick the newest gen, ddr5 and usb-c ports with at least 10 gbit speed in the current season.

    About screw tightening, cpu coolers including mine (a be quiet cooler) require that you fasten them down to the mobo and the screws happen to be very resistant for some of them. The cooler will literally not be correctly on the cpu if you don't do this, so the statement "if you feel any amount of resistance on the screws you have to stop" is factually incorrect garbage at least as far as coolers are concerned and the homosexuals who spread this lie should kys

  108. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If your time isn't that valuable, yes.

  109. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno. I’ve been looking to upgrade from my prebuilt from several years ago and everything that’s recommended leads up to over a $1000. I’m a brainlet, so I have know idea where to look to find these cheap builds

  110. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    just go on PC picker and look for yourself its considerably cheaper

  111. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a 6950XT over the 4070. It hasn't arrived yet but will soon. Was it a good choice?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      6950 runs hot as shit, but RNDA2 drivers are pretty decent now.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can always undervolt yeah? I hear AMD is better at it.

  112. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was not for a while during the covidhell, but it's back to normal.
    Also if you build your PC yourself, you have the option of not buying an absolute dogshit PSU that will burn your entire machine to the ground and/or proprietary mobo that requires the shit PSU to work.

  113. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I ended up buying a PowerSpec PC from Microcenter and just slapping a GTX 1080 in it. I was in a dinky apartment with the girlfriend, our one-year old, and FRICKING cats at the time and didn't want to frick with trying to put everything together. It's been like seven years now and it's served me well.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      a 1 year old, cats, and a gf? lol bro you probably got to play that thing for 1 hour every 3 weeks. I probably would've just abandoned video games til the kid was kindergarten age or something.

  114. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The price of GPUs are through the roof, but yes. Things like HDDs, SSDs, RAMs and motherboards are really cheap nowadays.

    There is another aspect to building the PC yourself: the knowledge of where the parts are for cleaning and maintenance.
    Sooner or later you'll probably want to upgrade a part. It's simpler to know where everything is and you just quickly swap the component. If you had it pre-built, you have to contact someone else to do it for you, which is more time and money.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the knowledge of where the parts are for cleaning and maintenance
      this really is a huge upside. back when I was a kid my pc would have problems and I'd be too scared to investigate and maybe frick it up. it was probably just too much dust and if I had learned about it I wouldn't have had the trouble. not sure if the local library would've had pc books to read about it though.

  115. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pcgays always pirate games so devs don't optimize them as well on pc
    >need high end parts to play a game at the same framerate as a console
    >"pcs are cheaper than consoles :^)"

  116. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    In general, probably not. You can get dirt cheap laptops, but they are NOT powerful in the slightest.

    You can definitely build a “cheaper” gaming rig, meaning you can get more bang for your buck. This can be slightly more expensive than a prebuilt, but you probably have substantially better components.

    Cheaper is a bad word to use - you can definitely build something with better value though.

  117. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It literally is, building the PC yourself is the cost of the parts. Having someone else build it is the cost of parts + labor

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can think of the labor as warrenty just incase things go bad. If you make a mistake, and anyone can make a mistake, you only have yourself to blame.

  118. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    no because they hiked prices on computer parts massive

    i have:
    AMD 5600X
    Asus 3060Ti
    16GB of RAM
    1TB Samsung 980 Pro
    ASUS PRIME B550M-K
    Corsair TX750

    and paid £900
    No word of a lie, building it myself would've been £1200.

  119. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Yes before 2015
    >NO after the cryptojews
    just get a PS5

  120. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No idea about cheaper but it's definitely better. I have top tier parts for literally everything - SSD, RAM, fans, GPU, CPU, mobo, power supply. No compromises whatsoever.

  121. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    of course, there is no service charge

  122. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy all your parts
    >let the webshop build it for you for extra 100 buckaroos
    >cable managed and everything is ok
    >if something is wrong out of the box warranty/RMA is no hassle
    vs
    >buy all parts
    >put it together yourself, figure out cable management, hope you don't bend a tiny ass socket pin or make any other mistakes
    >if anything goes wrong you're fricked because they can just say it was a user error
    i'd rather just pay them 100 bucks more for the convenience of not having to deal with bullshit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >paying 100 bucks for the computer equivalent of pic related because he's too moronic to route some cables and too much of an anxious wreck to call customer support
      How do I get morons to give me money for this? Do I just advertise on craigslist?

  123. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not for me.

  124. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but crypto irreparably fricked the price of everything and made corporations like nvidia realize they could just sell GPUs for insane prices and get away with it so it's not that much cheaper anymore.

  125. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread shows the sad state of Ganker. Place is full of morons and normies.

  126. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a ps5

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ps5
      ew

  127. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PC
    >What?
    >DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF PC THIS IS?
    >It's a PC, duh.
    >Hahaha....AKCTUALLY IT'S the Alienware Aurora R15 created by Alienware in 2022 with 13th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 13400F (10-Core, 29.5MB Total Cache, 2.5Ghz to 4.6GHz P-Core @ Max Turbo) with NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3050, 8 GB GDDR6 and Dark Side of the Moon 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech ™ Edition CPU Liquid Cooling & Clear Side Panel, including 256GB NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD. It also has NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4090, 24 GB GDDR6X, 64 GB, 2 x 32 GB, DDR5, 4800 MHz, XMP (Overclockable up to 5200Mhz), 4TB NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If any one this is confusing to you, you're ngmi

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      a fricking hdd for storage

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        HDD is very good for mass storage.
        Wether it's for hoarding things like movies or games, keeping family photos and videos or yes even porn, the HDD can take it all for a ridiculously cheap price.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      love how they recommend windows 11 pro for business as if some business is going to buy an alienware gamer shit for their business computer.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dell branded GPU with stock frequencies and poor cooling
      >4800 MHz DDR5
      >4TB nvme boot drive but 2TB HDD for storage
      >Noname PSU
      >Dell branded AIO cooler

      The absolute state .

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh and I forgot about the Dell motherboard that doesn't follow the ATX standard.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can make a better PC for $2000 less.

  128. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XCPpyK
    I can guarantee you'll never find a prebuilt with these exact same components. So not only is building cheaper, but also opens up countless possibilities for assembling various compatible parts.

  129. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, last I checked it was at least 25% cheaper since you aren't paying for labor. Pre-builts also prioritize quantity over quality, so you're actually more likely to get something thats DOA.

  130. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wow that was hard

    $554
    All new parts
    Plays God of War at 1080p 60fps on ultra
    1TB SSD storage
    Not to mention it's an actual computer

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Plays God of War at 1080p 60fps on ultra
      false

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron

        It averages 58fps in God of War
        67 in Horizon ZD
        88 Hitman 3
        59 in RDR2
        etc, it's perfect for 1080p ultra gaming

  131. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Build a cheaper but equivalent PC. It must play 360 games in 1440p too.

  132. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*chip shortage*~~ was going on in 2020
    >wanted a 3070
    >price is 3k for the card alone, for me buying from local retailers
    >yeah. nah.
    >mindlessly browse for prebuilts
    >1999 for a prebuilt with a ryzen 7 and a 3070
    >wtf
    >i’ll just fricking buy that instead and if the other parts like mobo / ram is shit i’ll just grab the card and use it in my current pc. whatever
    >it gets here, decent mobo and case
    >ended up just using my ram / storage from my old pc in the new one
    prebuilts aren’t too bad these days and i always built my own PCs and (tried to) repaired/cleaned/serviced them though

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh i also donated my old cpu to my lil bro. enjoy, little dipshit. thanks for reading my blog now go frick yourselves

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hi your little bro here, go frick yourself thanks for the Nvidia 950 you cheap frick

  133. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    Prebuilt PCs always have a couple of subpar components to increase the margin.
    Generally trash RAM, undersized or noname PSU.

  134. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  135. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't nerdy poindexter kids like this stereotyped into becoming gigachad corporate executives?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you mean hired through nepotism then sure

  136. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    many things are cheaper when you throw in your own labor and headaches, rather than letting others do that for you
    It's kind of the entire basis of many industries

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