I've just realized that weapons have scaling stats after all. Frick this Borderlands shit.

I've just realized that weapons have scaling stats after all.
Frick this Borderlands shit.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How else will Todd force you to play for 20 years?

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anon never played Oblivion

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm fairly confident only the enchantments were leveled in Oblivion.
      Starfield's weapon generation system seems identical to FO4, but I honestly don't remember this Basic-Calibrated-Refined shit that's essentially level scaling for weapons.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but I honestly don't remember this Basic-Calibrated-Refined shit that's essentially level scaling for weapons
        iron steel ebony without unique models

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            not saying oblivion is much better but outside of the "fine iron" and "fine steel" categories I'm pretty sure every tier had unique models. of course it's still functionally the same system

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no cosmetic progression is the same as cosmetic progression
              >in a game with level scaling assuring flat difficulty in all level appropriate content
              autism
              You'll be oneshotting humans with a Beowulf literally all game long, the only difference is replacing your 3star legendary bashing +15% ayy damage skipshot trash drop with a calibrated grey version of the same gun at lv~15

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most unique items in Oblivion were level scaled, to the point it was a good idea to hold off on certain quests to get the best version of an item. Beyond that going from an iron to a steel sword is the same as going from a regular to calibrated pistol.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Starfield's weapon generation system seems identical to FO4
        Nah it is the system of 76

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The worst thing about Oblivion was level scaling shit.
      I wish Bethesda would stop this moronic meme already. There are many reasons why New Vegas is beloved by many and one of them is that if you go to the wrong area at a low level you get your shit pushed in. Level scaling anything makes the whole world feel fake and shitty.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but oblivion handled it differently, if oblivion was like starfield you'd be able to find daedric armour at level 1 but it would be shitty, like having the stats of level 5 iron armour
      instead it was locked behind being level 18 (where it was rare) and 22+ (where it became more common)
      it had levelled loot, enemies and quest rewards which were shitty though, definitely the worst part about the entire game
      where oblivion fricked up the most was enemies though, you ended up fighting poor starving bandits each wearing full glass or daedric armour by the time you reached level 22 and that was moronic
      a highwayman telling you times were hard and he needs 100 gold from you while wearing a set of armour and wielding a weapon worth 50,000+ gold

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Weapons in Starfield are handled like that though. You don't start seeing certain weapons until a certain level. They fricked up by giving you access to big boy armor out the gate though, I got the bounty hunter armor and haven't ever changed it.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like

        Weapons in Starfield are handled like that though. You don't start seeing certain weapons until a certain level. They fricked up by giving you access to big boy armor out the gate though, I got the bounty hunter armor and haven't ever changed it.

        Said Starfield is just like that, there's also leveled armor as well
        In fact, fun fact, there are some weapons that don't have the highest tier so you can outlevel them to uselessness. Like the Eon, the only pistol that shoots 7.77 mm, it doesn't have an advanced version or a pistol replacement, if you're highly leveled the only replacement is the Beowulf which is a rifle
        Unique quest rewards are also leveled in the worst way - they're determined by your level at the START OF A NEW GAME CYCLE
        That's right, all your quest rewards in your first run through are worthless until you start a new NG+

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What? You are not enjoying randomly generated lootslop? Dumb snoy, this is a game about exploring randomly generated prefabslop!

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw this homie has probably put more hours into hating Starfield than I have into playing it

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would immediately abandon game

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      this webm could be made into a perfect loop

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Someone already did.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >run away
      >turn around
      >come back
      what am I supposed to be seeing here

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        bait

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are a homosexual.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        you're moronic or blind. He runs to 2 outposts in the webm and both outposts are identical right down to the loot on the floor.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >make a circle around outpost
          >no bro you don't understand this is a totally different outpost

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a straight line is now a circle
            >also you can discover the same location twice
            Anon, you have the spatial awareness of a woman... and no that's not a good thing.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        a snoy troony with his save loading cut out

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        That the world is round

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >typing commands in the bottom left
        aka the proof that PC players can't beat games without cheats, commands, and/or trainers.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you use console commands to do weird counter-intuitive shit then weird things will happen
      i don't care
      i just don't want the fricking loot treadmill

      to Starfield's credit, it's not like Cyberpunk 2077 where a gun becomes useless every 2 levels due to the instane stat creep, but still. there's 5 variants of the exact same fricking pistol that only differ in their stats

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>If you use console commands to do weird counter-intuitive shit then weird things will happen
        Jesus Christ, how embarrassing. have a nice day and I mean it.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          i don't care when random non-descript dungeons reset, there's a million of them so i'll never return to any single one
          i don't even mind the fact that there are random dungeons with zero story content, it just means i get to shoot up a bunch of shit whenever i feel like it

          i just don't want to farm dungeons and vendors until the level-appropriate variant of my preferred gun spawns

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            moronbro, POIs are placed when you land on the planet, not traverse it.
            >million
            You fricking wish.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              And you don't traverse a planet with console commands lol

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Planet
                tile*

                Is that heckin repeatable content in my 500 hours+ open works game? oh my science!

                POIs are reused in actual quests. Cope.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes anon big games tend to reuse content, if the gameplay is fun it's not an issue. Your epic own is just nitpicking over nonsense

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if the gameplay is fun it's not an issue
                "if"

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe moar

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe moar

                >coming across the same looking generated slop down to the clutter is nitpicking
                the absolute state
                >gameplay
                KEK

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                just admit you can't run the game

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that heckin repeatable content in my 500 hours+ open works game? oh my science!

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      This instantly makes the entire setting and world(s) a joke. So many layers of development failed with this, from game design through to quality assurance they all impressively dropped the ball

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        They have consumers like this

        >tfw this homie has probably put more hours into hating Starfield than I have into playing it

        Yes anon big games tend to reuse content, if the gameplay is fun it's not an issue. Your epic own is just nitpicking over nonsense

        They would be fine.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't encountered this yet, at least not the exact outpost repeated on the same planet. That being said, I don't really explore planets very much either.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Todd remade daggerfall in space

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    My only real complaint so far was that I stole an entire starship to find a) I couldn't sell it without "registering" it and b) after that it was worth less than a single gun

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Frick this Borderlands shit.
    Starfield fricking wishes it was Borderlands. At least Borderlands has some actual weapon variety and different viable playstyles, not to mention interesting environments.

    I mean yeah sure Borderlands has shit writing, but Starfield barely has any writing at all so that's a wash.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >literally his first bethesda game

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least the guns look good in this game

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      you mean the 1911 and the vintorez look good

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I literally don't even understand why this was necessary.
    What does bloating enemy HP and then introducing higher tiers of the same gun do exactly apart from tiring the player out by keeping up with upgrades and shit?
    It's so formulaic and utterly pointless.
    Suddenly the very same model of gun deals 4 times damage, why?
    There are already various mods to justify stat increases, no need for this artificial crap.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    People compare it to tes but it's literally fallout 4. Like, not similar but identical.
    At least skyrim and oblivion had different tiers of weapons like iron, steel, glass and so on.
    In starfield and fallout 4 max levelling 1911 will only differ in that it has +1000% damage mod.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Starfield is fallout 4 but without any of the cool shit to look at or kill. It's fallout 4 if every location was a boring sterile control vault without the experiments.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mods will fix it and allow you to upgrade your weapons.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mods will fix it
      moronic excuse for shit game design. At this rate Bethesda should just realize a game engine with a bunch of assets to the public for free and just take a cut from projects like Unity. If they're going to be lazy homosexuals they should at least stop larping as game developers.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    This game shows how Bethesda is stuck on time. Mediocre at best. Maybe worth with cbbe and many patches

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    some things the game does i think are bad, like not being able to upgrade your guns damage to fit your level but i also enjoy a lot of it
    that being said if any other creator made a game like bethesda games i'd fricking eat it up because i enjoy looting/selling and questing, the outpost shit is annoying simply because i need to level it up before i can truly customize an outpost, same with ship design locking you out of parts until you pump 4 points into it
    i still have almost 100 hours

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, that was apparent after like an hour of playing.
    It goes
    >no modifier
    >calibrated
    >refined
    >advance
    >superior
    I found an Advanced M1897 early on and it's been my problem solver ever since. Even now. at level 40, when most of my guns are at least "refined" and arguably hit harder than my trench gun with slugs, I still use it.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >found an legendary AA-99 no modifier with explosive bullets
      >think it's gonna be garbo because it does like 50 damage
      >it staggers them constantly and melts their HP
      Like yeah my beowolf has more sustained DPS but holy frick i love that piece of shit so much

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        level 49 btw

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Underaged learns there is always a stronger version of the same weapon in videogames

    Its almost like, most of everybody here doesn't play video games and clicksbait like a rabid "journalist"

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bad game has bad system from bad games
      Fallout76 sucks homosexual

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Iamma big baby with no argument who also shits on older good games with this feature
        >Also my only example is a recent game

        You dont have to say a thing, moronic Phone poster

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          > older good games with this feature
          There are no good games with this feature, old or new.

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