it's embarrassing because the original, on 24 year old hardware, runs at a straight 60fps, and also interesting because superguards have a timing window of 3/60ths of a second, meaning in the remake they'll either be 33% easier or more difficult depending on if they round up or down
i cant for the life on me understand how tendies' standards are so low that they accept the insanely shitty hardware of the switch. why cant it even match the gamecube? look at games like f-zero gx. i doubt the switch could even pull that off.
>i doubt the switch could even pull that off.
It absolutely couldn't, not least of which due to how much of GX makes use of the cube's dedicated ATi card which Sega already had experience with from the Monkey Ball games and engine plus the Gamecube based arcade cabinets. That kind of stuff is normal in the Sony world where devs regularly wrote everything from scratch because of how shit the Sony dev kits and documentation tended to be, but not many games actually made use of what the Gamecube could do instead of being shitty outsourced multiplat ports.
i cant for the life on me understand how tendies' standards are so low that they accept the insanely shitty hardware of the switch. why cant it even match the gamecube? look at games like f-zero gx. i doubt the switch could even pull that off.
>i doubt the switch could even pull that off.
It absolutely couldn't, not least of which due to how much of GX makes use of the cube's dedicated ATi card which Sega already had experience with from the Monkey Ball games and engine plus the Gamecube based arcade cabinets. That kind of stuff is normal in the Sony world where devs regularly wrote everything from scratch because of how shit the Sony dev kits and documentation tended to be, but not many games actually made use of what the Gamecube could do instead of being shitty outsourced multiplat ports.
Reminder that the Shitch has some of our most hated games of all time (Xenoblades 2+3, Zeldas BOTW+TOTK, Splatoon 3, excedera). Nintendo fell off, FOR REAL, for real!
Pikmin 4 is slop sludge hated by all of us longtime fans...
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Reminder that the Shitch has some of our most hated games of all time (Xenoblades 2+3, Zeldas BOTW+TOTK, Splatoon 3, excedera). Nintendo fell off, FOR REAL, for real!
>Xenoblades 2
Don't remind me... *shudders remembering all the cringe anime fanservice...*
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>by all of us longtime fans...
imagine thinking you can speak for other fans.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
are you RP'ing as a 12 year old or are you actually underage
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>by us longtime fans
ah yes all 10 pikmin enjoyers on Ganker
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I am one of them. 4's actually pretty good. Shit opening, and the dog is legitimately too useful.Still Nintendo's best game of 2023.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
4 was a better Pikmin game than 3, 3 was far too linear and the level design being "lmao gates everywhere" was stupid.
Artsyle was much better too, Pikmin 3 couldn't decide whether it was cartoony like 1 and 2 or realistic, it was too inconsistent.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>that second spoiled
You say that like Nintendo has been hitting it out of the park this generation. Best Switch game of any given year is typically not a close competition (or a high bar).
surprised more people aren't making a big deal about this. going from the 60fps gamecube version to the 30fps switch remake is going to be a tough pill to swallow.
Yeah you're right. Tendies don't care about games being smooth to play, they have zero standards and will gladly eat Nintendo's shit without questioning it and await more.
TTYD already had fast travel pipes. All you get is a fast partner switch menu. It's pitiful so far. Like, it's a somewhat competent remake better than what we'd expect from SHITtendo but it's an inferior version and it could have been way better.
Wow if only we could have both somehow, too bad destiny had other plans I guess
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not both, what we need is a bunch of modifiers. Hard mode (that isn't just the double damage badge). We need more postgame content (pit 2 would be great). We need to be able to compete in the Glitz Pit with updated enemies after Rawk Hawk goes back. We need maybe a chapter or two to get updated better level design. TTYD is already GREAT but it could be better.
Why does everyone care so much about frame rate in a fricking cardboard cut-out RPG? There is no fast action, just characters drawn on pieces of cardboard walking around. You don't need 60fps to tell that story. If anything I'd be tempted to go even further and limit it to 15fps for a stop motion type vibe.
>anything I'd be tempted to go even further and limit it to 15fps for a stop motion type vibe.
holy mother of midwit lmfao. you know thats not how games OR animation works right??
The real question is will the battles stay at 60fps? This is much more important than the overworld, because the overworld doesn't rely on things like Superguards or stylish inputs. If it's as fricked as say Dark Souls 2 and the durability tied to framerate battles would be outright unplayable for people used to original. I want to preorder this but I'm waiting for more video footage to confirm.
>why does anyone care about fluid animation, responsive gameplay and important stuff in vidya?
I used to believe that braindead boomer geriatrics were behind these posts but I think it's just moronic consumers or worse, casuals who somehow found their way on Ganker. If you don't perceive the difference or understand why it's a bad thing you shouldn't be playing videogames.
It looks almost the fricking same. It doesn't even matter how better it looks, a simple game like Paper Mario should not run at 30fp under ANY circumstance.
HD Paper Mario on Dolphin looks better than whatever the frick we have now. And honestly 30 FPS just screams horrible optimization, this is NOT a heavy game.
No it fricking doesn't, It's just shit optimization.
Metroid Prime is 900p60fps, Smash is 1080p60fps, Paper fricking Mario has no business being 30 fps.
as much as I hate pol shitposting, you know localization can't make physical changes to "set design" and story. It's why persona 5 still has the groomer gays and why Catherine has the crossdressing allien outright say he's a guy.
>as much as I hate pol shitposting, you know localization can't make physical changes to "set design" and story.
This hasn't been historically true, but it's kind of true. Plenty of examples of games where the US version has whole objects missing or changed costumes. See: Tokyo Mirage Sessions
In a vacuum this reads like Beldam is trying to say that Vivian isn’t related to her.
I highly doubt they’re going to acknowledge Vivian’s benis so all we’re going to get are these WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE changes which will probably backfire because zoomies will get offended at literal villains doing a heckin micro aggression.
>Gender shit is now The Most Serious Fricking Business Ever. You cannot have any mention of a character who has an indeterminate gender as a joke, or else a troony will be triggered and kill themselves, which would be such a tragic loss that the world would literally fricking end.
Three shadows is accurate to the japanese name, but the RELATION WITHELD is weird out of context. Could just be more bullying by refusing to admit viv is part of the family, could be something more
I always liked the "Shadow Sirens", but now the group name is pretty close to the Japanese name, カゲ三人組. Wonder if we'll actually get the Japanese version of Vivian. I never expected to.
I'm surprised they're even changing it. I really doubt they're going to actually acknowledge Vivian being trans, but will be willing to play around it if it's any indication. That, or Beldam is just disowning Vivian without the whole gender debacle in English now.
For context: Vivian uses a cute, but incorrect, moniker. Bedlam corrects the incorrect name, and adds an insult. Relation withheld is a fancy "you're not my real sister". Honestly, it's fine
If it's about the penis in the panties, then bedlam is saying "You're not my sister/real woman". That context makes it a based line. it's a fine change
>everything is a le conspiracy and these posters are clearly from nintendo itself
godfrickingdamnnit with these Gankertards and their mental illness i swear...
I can explain, this is actually a more faithful translation, in JP vivian makes a mistake and says "shadow sisters" instead of "shadow trio", then beldam calls him an idiot and that specific instance is her saying "you will be punished later". It appears that in this new retranslation vivian will make the same mistake as in the JP, followed by beldam saying that the name is wrong and you are a man, and instead of "you will be punished", they are making it a joke that it doesn't matter that they are sisters, "RELATION WITHHELD", that their name is three shadows.
The alternative is that the mistake in the new version is probably going to be vivian saying shadow siblings and beldam getting angry for getting the name wrong, RELATION WITHHELD
Damn, they're actually doing it, eh? Now to find out if the ENG localization is gonna go for the troony path or the femboy path.
When the game leaks, I'll put on the MonicaAnon trip again and see if datamining would work.
>Ah, here it is, my test results, can you hear my heart beating >Oh, the paper man's science is amazing ain't it >... >No... this can't be... >It says... I'm 102% male... with a 2% margin of error! >ACK!
If I remember right there's a whole plot point about how one of your character's is a femboy who gets teased by their siblings, the shadow frickers.
The english version changed this in the original and probably has no intention of bringing it closer to JP in the remake.
back then: >yeah we'll call it paper mario because the characters are 2d sprites kinda like paper, but everything else is 3d modelled properly
now: >DUDE ITS FRICKING PAP:ER MARIO DUDE LMFAO LOOK, He'S FRICKING A FRICKING STAPLER LMFAOOO DUDE CMON THERES ORIGAMI L<AOOO O SHIT ITS A SHREDDERRRR
Imagine the fricking shimmering in movement those tiny sharp white edges are gonna cause everywhere at the Switch's resolution and lack of AA. Fricking hell, it'll be like someone spilled glitter on your screen.
can someone explain what the actual fricking point of this remake is? the original games graphics are fine and hold up well since they are so stylized and the remake is literally the exact same game as the original just with a slightly fresher coat of paint.
1. It’s easy money
2. It fills pads out the Switch’s release schedule in what is probably it’s final year
3. It gauges interest to see if the RPGs bring in more customers than Tanabe’s Arts and Crafts Funtimes
what the frick is your problem? i have nothing against the remake i just dont understand the point as it doesnt really change anything from the original. playing an upscaled version on dolphin is essentially the remake anyway. ther switch graphics are too shit to handle even its own remake of a gamecube game.
Playing it through Dolphin is even better since there's full on custom texture packs for higher res sprites and HUD to play at 2k, 4k and beyond, and unlike the one for PM64 that changes a bunch of stuff needlessly, they're actually good.
>"YAHOO HEIL HITLER!" Mario shouted in Rogueport square, shocking onlookers, as he raised his arm in a Roman salute, while Goombella tried to pretend that she didn't know him, and prayed that nobody from her university had seen this take place
>Mario's Italian plumber impression is so offensive that Goombella's stomach ulcer practically implodes and she is unable to ask Mario to stop being so fricking racist
>Luigi watches from the street, shocked and appalled by his brother's neo-nazism. "So, that's your brother?" Luigi's latest companion asks, munching on a honey shroom despite not having arms, a mouth, and being a cloud with eyes. "Y-Yes." Luigi mutters, as Mario gives an impassioned speech about the dangers of miscegenation and racial impurity.
>Mario's Italian plumber impression is so offensive that Goombella's stomach ulcer practically implodes and she is unable to ask Mario to stop being so fricking racist
>Luigi watches from the street, shocked and appalled by his brother's neo-nazism. "So, that's your brother?" Luigi's latest companion asks, munching on a honey shroom despite not having arms, a mouth, and being a cloud with eyes. "Y-Yes." Luigi mutters, as Mario gives an impassioned speech about the dangers of miscegenation and racial impurity.
Removing the N graffiti was probably the right move, given what we just saw with Stellar Blade and its graffiti. Removing the wave is just baffling though, I doubt literally anyone thought Mario was randomly deciding to heil Hitler in that moment.
The graffiti change is bizarre, it's like everyone forgot the N-in-a-circle thing was one of Nintendo's shorthand trademarks. "Get N or get out!" I know I didn't hallucinate it.
Can anyone explain to me why there's so much damn SSR in this remake? You can see Goombella reflected in the stone (paper?) like vaseline. Real stone or non-glossy paper doesn't reflect that much light.
I thought from the thumbnail it'd be a graphics complaint thread. The switch version's character models being less bright makes them stand out against the background much less.
>Fricking cardboard >Erased the N, which, you know, was for NINTENDO, because people are so afraid of seeing Black person >Mario gives a thumbs up instead of a wave because Nintendo wants to push a thumbs up as his "signature thing" because Miyamoto was so afraid of the peace sign
Man, frick them. Never going to purchase shit if they can't get it together.
>remake is so good that all Ganker can do is nitpick minor shit and cry that the game is awful and terrible because of these minor nitpicks
A tale as old as time.
If it included the N64 and Wii one it would be actually pretty good if only because they wouldn't be stuck in ancient hardware anymore and would benefit more from emulation than forcing a 240p game on a modern monitor, this doesn't look much better than just selling a emulated iso with upscaling like it happened with mario all stars and people bought that anyway so why do this?
They want the modern Paper Mario audience who only cares about the visuals, but they also want the old Paper Mario audience that enjoys good gameplay. If it sells well, expect an old style Paper Mario game.
rage comics were sincere while wojaks are inherently poisoned by irony, meta irony, and post-ironic humor designed to mock, denigrate and display an aura of insufferable cattiness
>the wood in the gallows is now flatter because PAPER GUYS GET IT IT'S PAPER >door handles look more like cardboard cuts because PAPER PAPER PAPER >"cardboard" outlines added to the perfectly smooth vector characters because PAPER PAPER PAPER PAPER >needless shading/bloom and reflections because they missed the point of the lack of shading to make it look like a flat comic book
Really tired of remakes trying to "enhance" the visuals of something and arbitrarily changing them to be "better" when the original's visuals were perfectly fine and more in line with what the original artists wanted. Make something new you hacks.
The annoying part is that TTYD doesn't even do any paper jokes, and only comments on it relating to the R button abilities. Which you get from cursed chest demons. Who explicitly tell you it's a weird and horrible thing and that being flat like paper isn't normal. >the lack of shading to make it look like a flat comic book
I always liked the dithering on backgrounds and room transitions that made it look like a newspaper comic, those were neat. I'm sure they're gone now.
>TTYD never does paper jokes, except for like 2 or 3 times over like 30 hours, which is really not much >OH YEAH? HOW ABOUT THOSE 2 OR 3 TIMES?
Fricking moron.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
APPEAL TO ME AND ONLY ME AT ALL TIMES OR DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE
I do, and I have a good time.
But don't pretend your remake is nothing more than an overpriced, underperformant, artistically disrespectful moneygrab trying to swindle the good will of disenfranchised Paper Mario fans.
Black folk said the same thing about the LotSS remaster and it turned out to be fantastic. I'm sure TTYD will continue the trend yet you'll seethe about it regardless.
Mario RPG's remake was more sensible, it felt closer to what they were originally envisioning, but were clearly held back by the power of pre-rendered graphics at the time. TTYD remake's changes are just wholly arbitrary because it's needlessly applying a new look onto a game where the technology was there, not held back by restrictions. I can be fine with remakes if they're actually respecting the original and not just pointlessly "enhancing" things.
>I can be fine with remakes if they're actually respecting the original
How do remakes "respect the original"?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If it's the original artists behind them who were previously held back by limitations (i.e., hardware, budget, time, etc.) having the opportunity to go back and get closer to what they were envisioning, I have no qualms with remakes.
This is very rare in the games industry given remakes are often only made as pandery moneygrabs made by different teams entirely who don't have the same inspirations/mindsets as the original authors, meaning they often miss the point.
If you want a good remake in that regard I'd say Ocarina of Time 3D.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If you want a good remake in that regard I'd say Ocarina of Time 3D.
Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not that guy, but OOT 3D's fine. The only thing I can recall off the top of my head that they added was that Sheikah Stone that gives you hints on where to go. Aside from that I don't remember anything that is inferior to the original except some things like lighting, some visual styles, and not being able to re-bottle bugs. The MM remake was a shitshow though.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The gigantic "hit me here" eyeballs on bosses was pretty moronic
If color splash removed the stupid white outlines it probably wouldn't look that bad
Hell, the characters already have outlines, why bother with going even deeper on the 'lole they're paper see' meme?
TTYD remake isn't exempt either but it's a better approach at least
>can actually see the Blimp, like you logically should >water texture isn't overtly repeated like original
the only thing better about the OG is the thicker trees to convey depth, this is really a sidegrade and not strictly better or worse overall
It's a downgrade. Like you said the water texture isn't being overtly repeated but now it just looks clearly worse. The new style is just bad. And the water texture being repeated isn't objectively wrong either.
Skybox is kind of worse but not that bad so I wont really count it.
The real issue other than water is the city. From an actual city to a piece of cardboard. What a fricking joke.
Just an extremely TORtanicized remake. We need this shit to flop hard, lest our childhood remain in ruins!!!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not really. It'll obviously sell well. Easily 5 millions. Will it actually change anything on Nintendo's side? Most likely not. There's really nothing at stake, as a remake it's not bad enough to warrant the kind of reaction you're describing but not good enough to be called superior or even equal to the base game (unless we get some solid additional postgame content and other stuff - OR if you really care a lot about quick partner swap).
the questions about framerate and if battle inputs are kept intact for the original players are more important than minute nitpicking like "OH MY STARS AND GARTERS THEY ADDED THE BLIMP TO ROGUEPORT THE SOUL IS GONE"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Midwit post. We know they'd keep the battle inputs. Framerate was thoroughly discussed and is one of the first posts in this thread. Overall visual aesthetics and style matters A LOT and messes with a lot of the game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Would they keep the battle inputs? Not the first time Nintendo's fricked up inputs before, the gamecube versions of Ocarina of time and Majora's Mask do some pretty weird stuff.
Also why the frick can nobody do remakes right and then the studios blame us when the remakes are rightfully shat on, it feels like for every Wonder boy and the dragon's trap we get ten Klonoa collections or Majora's Mask 3D abominations
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It was obvious they'd keep the battle input after the first trailers showing some decent level of visual faithfulness.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I meant if they have the same timing as the original, playing the N64 online version of Mario 64 is fricked if you're used to the faster original console version (since the emulated version has noticeable input lag)
I feel like the original makes it feel more like a hazy unknown destination on the horizon, Mario just woke up and he's arriving at a mysterious new place he's never been before.
>tutorial goombas in the sewer dialogue changed from trying to hit on goombella to being underground dwellers offended that some surface dwellers are coming down into their neighborhood.
kek
Can't have annoying men hit on women in this climate
>ruin the joke by having them acknowledge the gang fight that's unfolding behind them in the middle of their conversation instead of just ignoring it because Rogueport is a shithole where this sort of thing happens
The more I see footage of this remake, the more I hate it.
This, it's funnier that the dudes get roughed up by mobsters in the background and nobody even notices.
Yep. They tried to put it at the start instead.
To be fair, I don't mind these kind of changes, because while it's a downgrade they tried to make something good and I can see the point. Other changes though...
These are wooden stairs. They should look like wooden stairs. Not sheets of paper.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No they should look like sheets of paper because it's called PAPER Mario and the whole world is made from paper and cardboard.
Clown.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
(me)
btw i'm trans :3
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It looks like a comic book. It's not about everything being made of paper. Even if you like the paper shit, it looks clearly out of place. TTYD wasn't designed with 3D paper assets everywhere in mind. TTYD isn't TOK. TTYD doesn't have to suffer TOK reused assets.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, being paper was literally a curse in the original
bet they'll change this line
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no, being paper was literally a curse in the original
Someone wasn't paying attention...
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I DON'T GIVE A FLYING homosexual'S FAT ASS IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT AND ONLY TRANNIES ARE CLAPPING FOR THIS RAPE OF A CLASSIC GAME
I don't like the design decision of everything being paper thin. I'm sure when playing it I won't mind, but it just irks me a bit that it seems like all the nips over don't know shit about the original.
tbh they should've just remade the N64 one. ttyd doesn't even look bad by today's standards (besides the twilight town pigs).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
N64 has a perfect artstyle, it's not a game that was held back by technical limitations. it doesn't need a remake either. none of these games do.
corporations need to just learn to remaster games and release them as is rather than giving them a worse paint job
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They showed ONE piece of concept art in the previews, and it's the one that shows the pigs are supposed to be papercraft. Their polygonal look is caused by them being made of folded paper. Ironic that one of the few instances of the original going for a paper look for something is the one thing you say needs to be changed, considering they appear to have changed literally everything else to be paper-themed instead.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the pigs being papercraft makes sense, but to be fair, they just kinda looked low-poly and ugly in the original imo.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They should have remade 64 and ported TTYD, instead they did the opposite. Just add the audience participation in battle to 64 and you have an objectively better game than TTYD.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Just add the audience participation in battle to 64 and you have an objectively better game than TTYD.
No you don't, because what makes TTYD better than 64 isn't the battle system, it's the story.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What the frick? No, not at all. >AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes. But I'm more talking about the chapter to chapter story than the overall plot, although this too is also superior to 64 (with the door's mystery and so on). TTYD had you get your body and friends stolen by a ghost you'd have to guess the name of by recruiting a former enemy who wouldn't even understand your identity until the end. Or have you compete in a wrestling tournament to steal the trophy... but then the trophy is fake and you're trying to uncover a mystery about kidnapped fighters, disappearances, a guy named X sending you mysterious mails and also various sabotages (poisoned food, locked room...). This is gold for a kid.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think they've both got their good and bad.
64 has: >Being an archeologist and finding a buried temple >Fighting a literal army inside a toybox >Being an intrepid explorer through a jungle into a volcano >Being in a murder mystery and going to the most aesthetic place in the entire series (Crystal Palace)
TTYD has: >Fighting a dragon >Being a pro wrestler >Losing your identity and having to fight "Mario" >Getting shipwrecked and fighting a pirate ghost >Being a detective on a train >Going to the moon
I guess listing it out with your childlike wonder criteria, TTYD wins out
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I really like some of 64's scenarios. The Toy Box and the way it messes with the hub is very underrated. But overall TTYD is where you get the most impressive scenes that stuck with me. Chapter 5 not only has you stranded, the ending of the chapter has you force an alliance with your former enemy by threatening to throw his israeliteel to the sea so you can use his phantom ship to beat the X Nauts in a naval battle. How cool is that?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's pretty cool! I'll admit I'm a little jaded by the backtracking, but I'll never forget that time Crump called out to "you, yeah you in front of the TV!" kid me was like "whoa!!!!"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
5 would have benefited from a map rework to make the backtracking interesting this time (or remove it by adding a location or two).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
But that still leaves you with a game that has inferior chapter concepts, dialogue, characters, gameplay, general creativity, etc. to its successor, so how would that make for an objectively better game?
>ruin the joke by having them acknowledge the gang fight that's unfolding behind them in the middle of their conversation instead of just ignoring it because Rogueport is a shithole where this sort of thing happens
The more I see footage of this remake, the more I hate it.
This, it's funnier that the dudes get roughed up by mobsters in the background and nobody even notices.
>game improves in a small way >"NO YOU CANT DO THAT GOOMBELLA ISNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A BACK SPRITE"
expect it doesn't, it's more in her character to comment as she comments on everything else in the game, and you're autistic to the point where any change is considered wrong so who gives a shit about what you "think"?
>it's more in her character
She didn't see it in the OG game.
>it doesn't
It does. There's a nice joke with Toadsworth talking over the actual scene
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Yep. They tried to put it at the start instead.
To be fair, I don't mind these kind of changes, because while it's a downgrade they tried to make something good and I can see the point. Other changes though...
It's a joke. It's lost in the process. Maybe you think the current version is funnier or better, and you're free to do so. But we OBJECTIVELY lost that joke in the tradeoff. I'm saying the tradeoff was negative in my opinion, to which you can disagree. But there was a tradeoff.
They don't try to hide the fact that hooktail is a girl anymore
Goombella calls her a girl when you tattle hooktail.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but didnt the original keep it a secret until you meet gloomtail just so that it could be used as a twist?
>That's Hooktail! Max HP is 20, Attack is 5, and Defense is 1. It'll stomp and munch on you, and it has a more dragonish attack: stinky, fiery breath! It's tricky, especially when it's losing, and it'll try to fool you into being merciful. Oh, yeah, and one more thing. It hates things that start with "cr" and end with "icket". Supposedly, there's something related to that somewhere in this castle. Did we find it?
They intentional avoid pronouns in her Tattle
This remake is pretty useless to me since I already beaten this game roughly 2 years ago. I'll treat like the M&L remakes where they'll only be good for soundtrack fodder and nothing else. Still, imaging scalpergays seething about people probably not wanting to buy $70 worth of an old game is a joy think about. Also going from 60fps to 30fps is an extreme downgrade and I'm not even a fpsgay like that. I'll never know why newer games get fricked like this compared to older ones.
>scalpergays seething
I'm convinced that was a big part of why the remake was even made in the first place.
Nintendo saw others making moron money and thought "that could be going to US!"
The Gamecube version won't go down in value that much due to it being the original without all the changes to the script, having a higher framerate and being usable as a boot disc for hacked memory cards.
Concept art is cool but I wish there was the option to switch between the original OST and the remake OST, the SMRPG remake had it why couldn't this have it too?
meh, it's nothing to get mad about. I have my original copy, as do many of the people who will be buying this game. Also, as soon as it comes out, people will be ripping and emulating it on PC at 60fps. Once there, people can mod the politically correct and homosexual shit out.
Bottom looks so fricking bad man. 0/10 skybox, style is fricked. They kept the character sprites as they should be (mostly) but everything else has issues.
Were we wrong all along, Ganker? "'Paper"" Mario was just regular mainline 3D from Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, Odyssey etc. on RPG style adventures before Paper Jam retconned it into being a separate alternate explicitly paper universe?
>shitty 2D >schizo gameplay >story with great highs but also that takes itself way too seriously with the cringe romance >WHAT ABOUT THE gayS THOUGH?
Can't wait for him to join the 52
>takes itself way too seriously
That's exactly what I like about it: it takes itself seriously and is 100% sincere in its presentation instead of the irony poisoned self aware garbage you see in nu-Paper Mario.
Rather than taking itself seriously, I should rephrase it: I think SPM is too melodramatic. TTYD is taking itself 100% seriously and it's sincere (just like SPM) but the story is a more standard anime like one, about traveling to new places, meeting new people, uncovering 7 McGuffins and uncovering a huge mystery while an enemy organization is trying to foil your plans and (maybe?) conquer the world. The romance stuff in SPM wasn't fundamentally wrong but in execution it feels weird.
>homosexualflag demands societal change
Sorry but you just got gay rights just 10 years ago. And japan, who makes this game, doesn't acknowledge you in their country. Frick off.
>complains about a game being "heteronormative" from 2007
god i hate twitter degenerates. these people belong in a mental asylum.
They... they always win... We need to take the blackpill amd just give up.
I just don't understand why they have to gloat so much, Gankerros... These trannies already won, they're just going to keep winning, devs are going to keep kneeling to them and soon even Jap devs won't be safe, why do they have to rub it in our faces?
This! They control everything! We will never be happy again... we might as well just kill ourselves...
I don't like paper jokes being shoved down my throat also but advertising for Paper Mario has always leaned in on the paper aesthetic even if the games don't really reflect it that much, at least in the west. Also frick that guy, he's so obnoxious everywhere he goes.
I do, this distinction is actually important because it means the american side was to blame for the funny paper puns if only they did it back in the 64 days, reminder that the original PM was called mario story in japan
Paper Mario 64, no, though I did always notice the guy say "Papah Mario" which is I'm a little surprised by considering the Mario Story name but it's not like I know Japanese.
TTYD though leaned heavily on the curses. I like how the JP trailer for the remake references it. I wish we could have the Mario theme covers in these commercials.
Probably only Super Paper Mario stood out to me as not really mentioning the paper aesthetic really.
>NOOO NOT THE PUNS >I LITERALLY HAD TO PAUSE THE TRAILER JUST TO MAKE THIS TWEET GUYS OH MY GOD >GUYS IM LITERALLY SHITTING AND DIALATING I CANT BELIEVE PAPER MARIO IS MADE OUT OF PAPER
>refuse to rerelease game for two decades >refuse to even make a true sequel >kill your consumer-friendly retro shop >wait for passionate autists and influencers to convince zoomers / secondaries that they love TTYD despite never having played it >need to damage control after telling fans to frick off after Origami King >too lazy to build something from the ground up
It’s that easy, and the worst part is that the Switch consumer base is so ignorant that they’re eating this shit up. TTYD should have been available on the eshop priced at $20 for years now, but people are happy to pay $40 more for what is essentially the same game.
12? I don't expect modern games to have the same effect on me, but I can still tell what's good from ironic "self-aware" garbage with no sense of wonder or adventure. I think even kid me would find nu PM boring.
Some people would try to defend TOK because TOK is obviously better than SS but I think for a kid with basic standards (kid standards), the best TOK can be is "okay".
You would be surprised. I had a kid tell me he loved Paper Mario only for him to later tell me he has only played Sticker Star. OK is a big step up for some of these fans.
I really like some of 64's scenarios. The Toy Box and the way it messes with the hub is very underrated. But overall TTYD is where you get the most impressive scenes that stuck with me. Chapter 5 not only has you stranded, the ending of the chapter has you force an alliance with your former enemy by threatening to throw his israeliteel to the sea so you can use his phantom ship to beat the X Nauts in a naval battle. How cool is that?
I just like how comfy 64 is. Only TTYD Chapter 6 comes close for me.
64 is beautiful, TTYD looked pretty nice too. I'm tired of remakes raping the art direction and lighting, at least try to stay faithful or don't even bother.
I wonder how that chapter is gonna look now since it's whole style is super high contrast compared to the lighting in the rest of the game (even the endgame shadow temple) and that kind of start black color is only allowed as a skintone in modern games.
Xenoblade 3 literally has two trannies in it and retconned an existing character into nonbinary.... Nintendo is so woke now...
I just don't understand why they have to gloat so much, Gankerros... These trannies already won, they're just going to keep winning, devs are going to keep kneeling to them and soon even Jap devs won't be safe, why do they have to rub it in our faces?
This.... We already surrendered, just stop bullying us you fricking freaks!!!! *sob*
>that new trailer
It’s bad enough that they spoil of shit ton of neat stuff for the zoomies, but they also dedicate a lot of time to the paper curses. Easily the worst trailer I’ve seen for a game in a long time.
I just don't understand why they have to gloat so much, Gankerros... These trannies already won, they're just going to keep winning, devs are going to keep kneeling to them and soon even Jap devs won't be safe, why do they have to rub it in our faces?
People don't complain about lighting effects but badly integrated new 3D assets that don't fit the (mostly kept similar) 2D artstyle. As well as the loss of some of the artstyle identity, from comic book to papercraft.
>NOOO NOT THE PUNS >I LITERALLY HAD TO PAUSE THE TRAILER JUST TO MAKE THIS TWEET GUYS OH MY GOD >GUYS IM LITERALLY SHITTING AND DIALATING I CANT BELIEVE PAPER MARIO IS MADE OUT OF PAPER
Yes. This is egregious and even a kid would find this annoying. It's not normal that you'd have to suffer 2 minutes of PAPER PAPER PAPER before seeing the actual gameplay.
I was leaning towards actually getting a copy of the remake but 30fps just might be a deal breaker for me. That is fricking insane. Its a turn based RPG from the Gamecube with 2D on 3D looking graphics. Why would anyone accept this as okay?
Lol imagine playing hyper archaic binary based electrical algorithms instead of scrying on giga modern sorting systems using a tape. I've basically been communicating with higher dimensions on my Walmart prebuilt PC on highest settings while you slaves are stuck playing Mario
>dude paper lmao >30fps
I hope the game at least has some new content like the SMRPG remake, otherwise you're strictly better off emulating the GCN version with widescreen and texture hacks
the battle music dynamically changing for every level is awesome, and it seems like they extended some of the shorter repetitive tracks too
it's a bit of a shame about the homogenized "dude jazz LMAO" instrumentation they keep going with but still pretty cool
>30fps
>it's a problem that this games has the basic FPS needed
it's embarrassing because the original, on 24 year old hardware, runs at a straight 60fps, and also interesting because superguards have a timing window of 3/60ths of a second, meaning in the remake they'll either be 33% easier or more difficult depending on if they round up or down
i cant for the life on me understand how tendies' standards are so low that they accept the insanely shitty hardware of the switch. why cant it even match the gamecube? look at games like f-zero gx. i doubt the switch could even pull that off.
>i doubt the switch could even pull that off.
It absolutely couldn't, not least of which due to how much of GX makes use of the cube's dedicated ATi card which Sega already had experience with from the Monkey Ball games and engine plus the Gamecube based arcade cabinets. That kind of stuff is normal in the Sony world where devs regularly wrote everything from scratch because of how shit the Sony dev kits and documentation tended to be, but not many games actually made use of what the Gamecube could do instead of being shitty outsourced multiplat ports.
I still can't believe that the switch is strictly worse at running software than the gamecube despite having bigger numbers. It's crazy.
Except you know for all the GameCube games that it runs with better quality like Metroid Prime and Mario sunshine and Pikmin 1 and 2 etc.
Reminder that the Shitch has some of our most hated games of all time (Xenoblades 2+3, Zeldas BOTW+TOTK, Splatoon 3, excedera). Nintendo fell off, FOR REAL, for real!
Yeah but it resurrected Pikmin so I don't care.
Pikmin 4 is slop sludge hated by all of us longtime fans...
>Xenoblades 2
Don't remind me... *shudders remembering all the cringe anime fanservice...*
>by all of us longtime fans...
imagine thinking you can speak for other fans.
are you RP'ing as a 12 year old or are you actually underage
>by us longtime fans
ah yes all 10 pikmin enjoyers on Ganker
I am one of them.
4's actually pretty good. Shit opening, and the dog is legitimately too useful. Still Nintendo's best game of 2023.
4 was a better Pikmin game than 3, 3 was far too linear and the level design being "lmao gates everywhere" was stupid.
Artsyle was much better too, Pikmin 3 couldn't decide whether it was cartoony like 1 and 2 or realistic, it was too inconsistent.
>that second spoiled
You say that like Nintendo has been hitting it out of the park this generation. Best Switch game of any given year is typically not a close competition (or a high bar).
xenoblade 2 is one of the greatest works of fiction ever made
>xenoblade 2 is one of the greatest works of fiction ever made
Bruh your defending this???
>english dub
The remake is objectively worse than the original for this reason alone.
surprised more people aren't making a big deal about this. going from the 60fps gamecube version to the 30fps switch remake is going to be a tough pill to swallow.
What a shitshow
only snoys and pcsnoys care about fps
Yeah you're right. Tendies don't care about games being smooth to play, they have zero standards and will gladly eat Nintendo's shit without questioning it and await more.
But the remake is the one that will have smoother gameplay due to being able to quickly change party members and reworking the backtracking.
TTYD already had fast travel pipes. All you get is a fast partner switch menu. It's pitiful so far. Like, it's a somewhat competent remake better than what we'd expect from SHITtendo but it's an inferior version and it could have been way better.
Wow if only we could have both somehow, too bad destiny had other plans I guess
It's not both, what we need is a bunch of modifiers. Hard mode (that isn't just the double damage badge). We need more postgame content (pit 2 would be great). We need to be able to compete in the Glitz Pit with updated enemies after Rawk Hawk goes back. We need maybe a chapter or two to get updated better level design. TTYD is already GREAT but it could be better.
A downgrade in frame rate is unacceptable. I'd gladly trade less visual fidelity for 60fps
Why does everyone care so much about frame rate in a fricking cardboard cut-out RPG? There is no fast action, just characters drawn on pieces of cardboard walking around. You don't need 60fps to tell that story. If anything I'd be tempted to go even further and limit it to 15fps for a stop motion type vibe.
It's snoys trying to shit up the place as usual
stop defending downgrades and get some standards
>There is no fast action
Black person, there are timed action commands.
The comic book aesthetic relies a lot on everything being fluid to work. Everything moves A LOT
i dont care if im in an rpg menu or playing street fighter, i want the game to feel smooth and snappy. 60fps just always feels more responsive
>anything I'd be tempted to go even further and limit it to 15fps for a stop motion type vibe.
holy mother of midwit lmfao. you know thats not how games OR animation works right??
battles and animations are slower because they ran half of the speed of Gamecube. Zoomers cant remember the original game is wonderful smooth
You don't need "fast action" to feel the difference between 30fps and 60fps unless you're a lobotomite. Wheel out the next excuse, Spiro gaynew.
a batter question is Why 30fps is so special that every videogame designer is obsessed with 30fps to everything?
It's the perfect framerate
There are fricking action commands Black person
The real question is will the battles stay at 60fps? This is much more important than the overworld, because the overworld doesn't rely on things like Superguards or stylish inputs. If it's as fricked as say Dark Souls 2 and the durability tied to framerate battles would be outright unplayable for people used to original. I want to preorder this but I'm waiting for more video footage to confirm.
Everything is 30 FPS and it hurts both superguarding AND aesthetics.
no, it doesn't
It does. Please go look at 60 FPS gameplay and how fluid the jumps and moves look. Then compare to the remake.
wrong.
I guess human eyes can't see more than 30 FPS.
>the fluidness
>of fucing paper
lol, lmao even
The fluidity of 2D sprites moving and making fancy jumping attacks in a highly stylized art style. Yes.
they aren't sprites, moron.
Possibly? Technically? Use your preferred word if there's a more correct one I missed. You caught my drift. Everything about my post applies.
>it's le paper so the animation doesn't matter because...I suck dicks!!!
I hope Nintendo is paying you
>why does anyone care about fluid animation, responsive gameplay and important stuff in vidya?
I used to believe that braindead boomer geriatrics were behind these posts but I think it's just moronic consumers or worse, casuals who somehow found their way on Ganker. If you don't perceive the difference or understand why it's a bad thing you shouldn't be playing videogames.
Really? Is Nintendo fricking with us? Is the Switch weaker than the fricking GameCube? This is unacceptable.
the gamecube version didnt look that good
looks better than the switch version though
It looks almost the fricking same. It doesn't even matter how better it looks, a simple game like Paper Mario should not run at 30fp under ANY circumstance.
Looks 10/10 on my BVM w/ component cables.
HD Paper Mario on Dolphin looks better than whatever the frick we have now. And honestly 30 FPS just screams horrible optimization, this is NOT a heavy game.
this reeks of them hiding 60 FPS behind a hardware revision
>it's ok when gaystation does it
It must be exhausting living as a perpetual victim of bullying from your boogeyman.
No it fricking doesn't, It's just shit optimization.
Metroid Prime is 900p60fps, Smash is 1080p60fps, Paper fricking Mario has no business being 30 fps.
The game doesn't even look much different why does it run at half the FPS?
no fricking way seriously?
well hopefully we see 60fps on emulators
This is my issue. Taking a 60fps game and making the remaster 30fps is unacceptable
Nintendo will actually go bankrupt because of this post
I was already gonna emulate this but now I'm going to even harder.
Heil Peach
So waving is now racist? No one better explain the rule of thumb to Nintendo.
a line was changed in a very specific way
here's the original...
...and here's the remake
The Three Shadows is closer to the original Japanese though since that was what they were originally called.
And if trannies really were involved why is the noose still up in rogue port?
Because nooses, mugshots and kel-tecs are currently the most effective troony iconography or we got a lad on the inside
Why are the boos in the parlor the censored cat versions instead of the original bunny versions?
because NoA is based and knows cat ears are superior
Ganker is a bnuy board, partner
as much as I hate pol shitposting, you know localization can't make physical changes to "set design" and story. It's why persona 5 still has the groomer gays and why Catherine has the crossdressing allien outright say he's a guy.
>as much as I hate pol shitposting, you know localization can't make physical changes to "set design" and story.
This hasn't been historically true, but it's kind of true. Plenty of examples of games where the US version has whole objects missing or changed costumes. See: Tokyo Mirage Sessions
this change is anti-troony though, it explicitly states Vivi isn't a "sister"
In a vacuum this reads like Beldam is trying to say that Vivian isn’t related to her.
I highly doubt they’re going to acknowledge Vivian’s benis so all we’re going to get are these WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE changes which will probably backfire because zoomies will get offended at literal villains doing a heckin micro aggression.
Lord Crump should talk to the camera and say
>You thought we would make Vivian a girl? In THIS social climate? No way Jose.
Literally what does this mean
boys can't be sisters
>Gender shit is now The Most Serious Fricking Business Ever. You cannot have any mention of a character who has an indeterminate gender as a joke, or else a troony will be triggered and kill themselves, which would be such a tragic loss that the world would literally fricking end.
Well im going to kill myself because of this one change so what now
Three shadows is accurate to the japanese name, but the RELATION WITHELD is weird out of context. Could just be more bullying by refusing to admit viv is part of the family, could be something more
>RELATION WITHELD
what does that even mean
>30 fps
>doesn't even look like native resolution
sad!
I always liked the "Shadow Sirens", but now the group name is pretty close to the Japanese name, カゲ三人組. Wonder if we'll actually get the Japanese version of Vivian. I never expected to.
The new text for this scene and the one with the rapey Goombas is painfully unfunny.
Isnt it more transfriendly if they said sisters?
Theyre basically saying Viv doesnt count lol
As long as they can get access to kids, they're happy.
moron, why would they fix her transphobia iif localization believes Vivian is trans?
Is this a
>Uncle Ruckus no relation
Style joke? I don't get it.
I'm surprised they're even changing it. I really doubt they're going to actually acknowledge Vivian being trans, but will be willing to play around it if it's any indication. That, or Beldam is just disowning Vivian without the whole gender debacle in English now.
For context: Vivian uses a cute, but incorrect, moniker. Bedlam corrects the incorrect name, and adds an insult. Relation withheld is a fancy "you're not my real sister". Honestly, it's fine
This. Whoever put out that screenshot is likely just trying to stir the pot before there's a more clear answer out there.
Too obvious. No paycheck for you.
If it's about the penis in the panties, then bedlam is saying "You're not my sister/real woman". That context makes it a based line. it's a fine change
I don't need a fricking Big N bribe to call out this bullshit. Give me a break, kid.
>everything is a le conspiracy and these posters are clearly from nintendo itself
godfrickingdamnnit with these Gankertards and their mental illness i swear...
>modernity has led to people over analyzing a joke Beldam would make
kek
Huh?
I literally have no idea of what that's supposed to mean.
I can explain, this is actually a more faithful translation, in JP vivian makes a mistake and says "shadow sisters" instead of "shadow trio", then beldam calls him an idiot and that specific instance is her saying "you will be punished later". It appears that in this new retranslation vivian will make the same mistake as in the JP, followed by beldam saying that the name is wrong and you are a man, and instead of "you will be punished", they are making it a joke that it doesn't matter that they are sisters, "RELATION WITHHELD", that their name is three shadows.
The alternative is that the mistake in the new version is probably going to be vivian saying shadow siblings and beldam getting angry for getting the name wrong, RELATION WITHHELD
>him
>man
Damn, they're actually doing it, eh? Now to find out if the ENG localization is gonna go for the troony path or the femboy path.
When the game leaks, I'll put on the MonicaAnon trip again and see if datamining would work.
idgi
and dropped
What the frick does that even mean?
NO RELATION
>Ah, here it is, my test results, can you hear my heart beating
>Oh, the paper man's science is amazing ain't it
>...
>No... this can't be...
>It says... I'm 102% male... with a 2% margin of error!
>ACK!
I don't get it. Why the change?
potentially more accurate to the JP dialogue?
Hahhahahhahhahahha
If I remember right there's a whole plot point about how one of your character's is a femboy who gets teased by their siblings, the shadow frickers.
The english version changed this in the original and probably has no intention of bringing it closer to JP in the remake.
There is a LOT of futa/femboy porn of vivi
proof?
>paper mario vivan rule 34
>add futanari or femboy tag
wa la
>Trannies got into the localization team
Grim
Any more examples of changes to dialogue? No matter if very subtle, it's just getting worrying now
back then:
>yeah we'll call it paper mario because the characters are 2d sprites kinda like paper, but everything else is 3d modelled properly
now:
>DUDE ITS FRICKING PAP:ER MARIO DUDE LMFAO LOOK, He'S FRICKING A FRICKING STAPLER LMFAOOO DUDE CMON THERES ORIGAMI L<AOOO O SHIT ITS A SHREDDERRRR
moron
is it finally out yet? I want to stay away from this shithole until it's forgotten to hear as little screeching about vivian as possible
May 24th
society is literally collapsing
the remake looks so janky and jagged like an old DS game
Imagine the fricking shimmering in movement those tiny sharp white edges are gonna cause everywhere at the Switch's resolution and lack of AA. Fricking hell, it'll be like someone spilled glitter on your screen.
Are they censoring the letter N now? I don't get it.
You wouldn't be happy unless they literally just released the GameCube version again. Just go replay that, it's clearly what you want.
can someone explain what the actual fricking point of this remake is? the original games graphics are fine and hold up well since they are so stylized and the remake is literally the exact same game as the original just with a slightly fresher coat of paint.
They're seeing if people would be interested in PM going back to RPG. They remade this one because it's got more fanfare and feedback than PM64
cash grab
1. It’s easy money
2. It fills pads out the Switch’s release schedule in what is probably it’s final year
3. It gauges interest to see if the RPGs bring in more customers than Tanabe’s Arts and Crafts Funtimes
People asked for it. Wish we would have got it back in 2020 over TOK though.
Aside from the new paint job it is exactly what we wanted. Can’t wait for the draft to take you zoomers off to die for Israel.
>you zoomers
But I think the remake looks pretty good.
what the frick is your problem? i have nothing against the remake i just dont understand the point as it doesnt really change anything from the original. playing an upscaled version on dolphin is essentially the remake anyway. ther switch graphics are too shit to handle even its own remake of a gamecube game.
Playing it through Dolphin is even better since there's full on custom texture packs for higher res sprites and HUD to play at 2k, 4k and beyond, and unlike the one for PM64 that changes a bunch of stuff needlessly, they're actually good.
>even better since there's full on custom texture packs
You are transgender.
>MUST DEFEND... THE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY THAT HATES YOU... MUST... CONSUME...
You're meme arrowing wrong.
>draw a picture of a star bigger
troony
>draw a picture of a star bigger, Nintendo
omnomnom feed me daddy
>double replying
Why are gwaphixtroons like this?
NIntendies are anti-piracy, anon.
tendies need to constantly keep giving their money to nintendo no matter what
Portability and then I don’t have to be an over priced copy on eBay.
Correcting the mistakes of the old English script and making transphobes epicly asshurt
>"YAHOO HEIL HITLER!" Mario shouted in Rogueport square, shocking onlookers, as he raised his arm in a Roman salute, while Goombella tried to pretend that she didn't know him, and prayed that nobody from her university had seen this take place
>Mario's Italian plumber impression is so offensive that Goombella's stomach ulcer practically implodes and she is unable to ask Mario to stop being so fricking racist
pffffff
>Luigi watches from the street, shocked and appalled by his brother's neo-nazism. "So, that's your brother?" Luigi's latest companion asks, munching on a honey shroom despite not having arms, a mouth, and being a cloud with eyes. "Y-Yes." Luigi mutters, as Mario gives an impassioned speech about the dangers of miscegenation and racial impurity.
lets-a gas
I love Bertstrips.
From the thumbnail I was fully expecting the noose to get "changed" out somehow
Apparently the parody graffiti was the higher priority?
Removing the N graffiti was probably the right move, given what we just saw with Stellar Blade and its graffiti. Removing the wave is just baffling though, I doubt literally anyone thought Mario was randomly deciding to heil Hitler in that moment.
The graffiti change is bizarre, it's like everyone forgot the N-in-a-circle thing was one of Nintendo's shorthand trademarks. "Get N or get out!" I know I didn't hallucinate it.
>mmm ackshully that's a mandela effect sweety
If you realize it's not an N but a Z you would completely know why they got rid of it. Don't be coy.
No way...
SHA LA HE-CHALA
fricking ziggers
The handwave was removed on the western gamecube release back then.
It was still in the American version, I think the European versions specifically removed it.
Btw, we're getting cat ears
I wonder what ears Japan will get.
It was in the japanese overview trailer, too
thank you jesus
God I hate the 3D paper objects.
Why is this making so many Gankerirgins shit themselves?
It just takes away from the immersion by having objects that clearly don't belong in this plane of existence.
they want shadbase to draw more porn of her
I'm talking about the 3D paper
Because she's supposed to be a bunny ghost, they've ruined everything
the lighting bothers me way more
like wtf is this
graphics look worse on the switch lmao. the complete lack of AA makes the switch version look horrid.
>Mario is no longer a nazi supported
Why the change it gave him character?
The original was altered in Germany because of the Nazi salute resemblance, so changing it in all regions makes sense.
Can anyone explain to me why there's so much damn SSR in this remake? You can see Goombella reflected in the stone (paper?) like vaseline. Real stone or non-glossy paper doesn't reflect that much light.
I thought from the thumbnail it'd be a graphics complaint thread. The switch version's character models being less bright makes them stand out against the background much less.
>Fricking cardboard
>Erased the N, which, you know, was for NINTENDO, because people are so afraid of seeing Black person
>Mario gives a thumbs up instead of a wave because Nintendo wants to push a thumbs up as his "signature thing" because Miyamoto was so afraid of the peace sign
Man, frick them. Never going to purchase shit if they can't get it together.
The peace sign means "Frick you" in Central and South America. The Okay symbol means "Shit" in many European countries.
Doesn't the thumbs up also mean basically "up yours, butthole" in some countries?
In the Middle East, Latin America, and Western Africa it's the same as the middle finger.
>remake is so good that all Ganker can do is nitpick minor shit and cry that the game is awful and terrible because of these minor nitpicks
A tale as old as time.
Awful? Not really.
Unworthy of the price? Absolutely.
Looks like it's worth $70 to me
If it included the N64 and Wii one it would be actually pretty good if only because they wouldn't be stuck in ancient hardware anymore and would benefit more from emulation than forcing a 240p game on a modern monitor, this doesn't look much better than just selling a emulated iso with upscaling like it happened with mario all stars and people bought that anyway so why do this?
They want the modern Paper Mario audience who only cares about the visuals, but they also want the old Paper Mario audience that enjoys good gameplay. If it sells well, expect an old style Paper Mario game.
The Rogueport remix sounded like ass but everything else seems fine.
Why does the left look legitimately better. Didn't it come out 20 years ago?
The same people defending this also make fun of asiatics for removing pinching gestures.
>butthole character insults girl by saying she looks like a dude
>trannies everywhere lose their minds over such amazing representation
Really makes you think.
beldam is literally a chud. i'm surprised there isn't a beldam chudjak already. it's inevitable
wtf i love beldam now
>can't relate to anything if wojakhomosexualry isn't shorehorned in
Is this what happens when you don't have a father figure in your life?
oh sorry i'll say based epic uber cringekino next time so as not to offend your extremely secure and masculine 'oldgay' sensibilities
cobdus is a bawd for SQC and if this is OC you should be proud of yourself
god damn it
gemmy
I look forward to seeing this everyday for the rest of my life
I hope your kindergarten buddies see this.
Gem
How can you include Sir Grodus in this image, but not Doopliss?
doo_liss is trans and valid because xhe dies when you deadname xhem
encrusted gem of a post
>last ten years
>new memes are only wojaks
Dead Internet Theory is a fact, not a theory
I miss Three Angled Blue
not surprising that someone using a nearly 20 year old reaction image like a rantsona has their head stuck in the sand
And yet it was leagues above that w*jak edit. Eat shit, newbie
you forgot your smug anime girl reaction image to really drive home how not owned you are
>years of endless rage comics variants good
>years of endless wojak variants bad
Yes.
rage comics were sincere while wojaks are inherently poisoned by irony, meta irony, and post-ironic humor designed to mock, denigrate and display an aura of insufferable cattiness
Oh yeah, I really miss goatse, meatspin, and lemonparty. Those memes were so much better. SYKE
grim
gem
SAY THE LINE
coal
gem
foulest fricking brimstone I've ever laid my eyes upon
i actually hate you
Saved.
>TheThreeShadACK.png
>the wood in the gallows is now flatter because PAPER GUYS GET IT IT'S PAPER
>door handles look more like cardboard cuts because PAPER PAPER PAPER
>"cardboard" outlines added to the perfectly smooth vector characters because PAPER PAPER PAPER PAPER
>needless shading/bloom and reflections because they missed the point of the lack of shading to make it look like a flat comic book
Really tired of remakes trying to "enhance" the visuals of something and arbitrarily changing them to be "better" when the original's visuals were perfectly fine and more in line with what the original artists wanted. Make something new you hacks.
The annoying part is that TTYD doesn't even do any paper jokes, and only comments on it relating to the R button abilities. Which you get from cursed chest demons. Who explicitly tell you it's a weird and horrible thing and that being flat like paper isn't normal.
>the lack of shading to make it look like a flat comic book
I always liked the dithering on backgrounds and room transitions that made it look like a newspaper comic, those were neat. I'm sure they're gone now.
>TTYD doesn't do it except for when it does it
Bravo, anon, splendiferous commentary.
>TTYD never does paper jokes, except for like 2 or 3 times over like 30 hours, which is really not much
>OH YEAH? HOW ABOUT THOSE 2 OR 3 TIMES?
Fricking moron.
>N-no u
If I wanted my own comeback, I'd wipe it off your mom's chin
I like the multiple pieces look for the characters.
Infinitely better than the cutout frames.
Play the original then, moron.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
APPEAL TO ME AND ONLY ME AT ALL TIMES OR DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE
huehueheueh
I do, and I have a good time.
But don't pretend your remake is nothing more than an overpriced, underperformant, artistically disrespectful moneygrab trying to swindle the good will of disenfranchised Paper Mario fans.
Black folk said the same thing about the LotSS remaster and it turned out to be fantastic. I'm sure TTYD will continue the trend yet you'll seethe about it regardless.
Mario RPG's remake was more sensible, it felt closer to what they were originally envisioning, but were clearly held back by the power of pre-rendered graphics at the time. TTYD remake's changes are just wholly arbitrary because it's needlessly applying a new look onto a game where the technology was there, not held back by restrictions. I can be fine with remakes if they're actually respecting the original and not just pointlessly "enhancing" things.
>I can be fine with remakes if they're actually respecting the original
How do remakes "respect the original"?
If it's the original artists behind them who were previously held back by limitations (i.e., hardware, budget, time, etc.) having the opportunity to go back and get closer to what they were envisioning, I have no qualms with remakes.
This is very rare in the games industry given remakes are often only made as pandery moneygrabs made by different teams entirely who don't have the same inspirations/mindsets as the original authors, meaning they often miss the point.
If you want a good remake in that regard I'd say Ocarina of Time 3D.
>If you want a good remake in that regard I'd say Ocarina of Time 3D.
Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.
Not that guy, but OOT 3D's fine. The only thing I can recall off the top of my head that they added was that Sheikah Stone that gives you hints on where to go. Aside from that I don't remember anything that is inferior to the original except some things like lighting, some visual styles, and not being able to re-bottle bugs. The MM remake was a shitshow though.
The gigantic "hit me here" eyeballs on bosses was pretty moronic
That was in MM 3D, not OOT 3D.
That was Majora's Mask 3D, and yes it was.
>more in line with what the original artists wanted
i highly doubt you give a shit about what some guy you don't know wanted
I kinda do give a shit because those artists made excellent games, whereas the new Paper Mario team didn't.
I want to make out with Ms. Mowz while I hold her like this
MY ERECT PENIS INSIDE A BOO WITH CAT EARS! FOR AT LEAST 4 HOURS EVERY DAY!
Still going to buy it and enjoy it just like I did with the SMRPG remake, and there's nothing you doomers can say to change my mind
you are fat ugly and stupid and thats just a fact and nothing will change that also. hope this helps!
Did the n-worda use their left hand?
it's so jagged and reflective. even color splash looked better
>cutouts
No.
If color splash removed the stupid white outlines it probably wouldn't look that bad
Hell, the characters already have outlines, why bother with going even deeper on the 'lole they're paper see' meme?
TTYD remake isn't exempt either but it's a better approach at least
What is it with modern game lighting? Everything always looks so washed out whereas older games looked so much more vibrant and colorful
that's not really the problem here
to be honest I never liked that shot
>can actually see the Blimp, like you logically should
>water texture isn't overtly repeated like original
the only thing better about the OG is the thicker trees to convey depth, this is really a sidegrade and not strictly better or worse overall
It's a downgrade. Like you said the water texture isn't being overtly repeated but now it just looks clearly worse. The new style is just bad. And the water texture being repeated isn't objectively wrong either.
Skybox is kind of worse but not that bad so I wont really count it.
The real issue other than water is the city. From an actual city to a piece of cardboard. What a fricking joke.
Just an extremely TORtanicized remake. We need this shit to flop hard, lest our childhood remain in ruins!!!
Not really. It'll obviously sell well. Easily 5 millions. Will it actually change anything on Nintendo's side? Most likely not. There's really nothing at stake, as a remake it's not bad enough to warrant the kind of reaction you're describing but not good enough to be called superior or even equal to the base game (unless we get some solid additional postgame content and other stuff - OR if you really care a lot about quick partner swap).
It's... eeh...
>sidegrade
dishonest vocabulary
the questions about framerate and if battle inputs are kept intact for the original players are more important than minute nitpicking like "OH MY STARS AND GARTERS THEY ADDED THE BLIMP TO ROGUEPORT THE SOUL IS GONE"
Midwit post. We know they'd keep the battle inputs. Framerate was thoroughly discussed and is one of the first posts in this thread. Overall visual aesthetics and style matters A LOT and messes with a lot of the game.
Would they keep the battle inputs? Not the first time Nintendo's fricked up inputs before, the gamecube versions of Ocarina of time and Majora's Mask do some pretty weird stuff.
Also why the frick can nobody do remakes right and then the studios blame us when the remakes are rightfully shat on, it feels like for every Wonder boy and the dragon's trap we get ten Klonoa collections or Majora's Mask 3D abominations
It was obvious they'd keep the battle input after the first trailers showing some decent level of visual faithfulness.
I meant if they have the same timing as the original, playing the N64 online version of Mario 64 is fricked if you're used to the faster original console version (since the emulated version has noticeable input lag)
I feel like the original makes it feel more like a hazy unknown destination on the horizon, Mario just woke up and he's arriving at a mysterious new place he's never been before.
The remake is too bright and shiny, in general. Rougeport doesn’t look nearly as dirty. Keelhaul jungle is too bright.
>can see the ship in port while you're still on the ship
Ah.
I think it's supposed to be Flavio's ship?
Oh, my mistake.
that's flavio's ship, not the one mario arrives on
omg is that a paper mario reference in my paper mario game????? WOWOWOWOWOW
Lack of soul, SOULLESS if you will
Something about Goombas and them having back, right?
Will (You) give Whacka another concussion again?
>concussion
you give him permanent brain damage my dude
Concussion implies he'll live >:3
Whacka was cut due to the promotion of animal cruelty.
yes
RIP
>tutorial goombas in the sewer dialogue changed from trying to hit on goombella to being underground dwellers offended that some surface dwellers are coming down into their neighborhood.
kek
Can't have annoying men hit on women in this climate
i wonder how that one trouble will go with the goomba looking for a girlfriend
>goes from flirting with her to wanting women (femoids) out of their underground
b-based
>mario and goombella now look at the hit job in the intro
kek
https://twitter.com/SupesSMTR/status/1783562409786884276?t=oXCkZsZLIe_Fm-mGVXU_RA&s=19
>twitter
go back
it's X now, run by a man who I thought Ganker would worship
Ganker's so contrarian nowadays that they'll align themselves with the mainstream
election tourist.
it was funnier when they didnt acknowledge it
>twitter
stay
he/they
>ruin the joke by having them acknowledge the gang fight that's unfolding behind them in the middle of their conversation instead of just ignoring it because Rogueport is a shithole where this sort of thing happens
The more I see footage of this remake, the more I hate it.
No way, it's better for them to see it, shrug, and move on; THAT is way more Rogueport.
the only reason they don't look at it in the original is because goombella doesn't have a back sprite
yeah, nah, frick off, you aren't going to botch about the back sprites
This, it's funnier that the dudes get roughed up by mobsters in the background and nobody even notices.
Yep. They tried to put it at the start instead.
To be fair, I don't mind these kind of changes, because while it's a downgrade they tried to make something good and I can see the point. Other changes though...
Other changes like
Just like at these fricking tables and chairs.
Kek the delusion and cope is hysterical
You literally just posted shit, anon.
It's made out of PAPER you moron.
These are wooden stairs. They should look like wooden stairs. Not sheets of paper.
No they should look like sheets of paper because it's called PAPER Mario and the whole world is made from paper and cardboard.
Clown.
(me)
btw i'm trans :3
It looks like a comic book. It's not about everything being made of paper. Even if you like the paper shit, it looks clearly out of place. TTYD wasn't designed with 3D paper assets everywhere in mind. TTYD isn't TOK. TTYD doesn't have to suffer TOK reused assets.
no, being paper was literally a curse in the original
bet they'll change this line
>no, being paper was literally a curse in the original
Someone wasn't paying attention...
I DON'T GIVE A FLYING homosexual'S FAT ASS IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT AND ONLY TRANNIES ARE CLAPPING FOR THIS RAPE OF A CLASSIC GAME
they should have a classic assets mode
where they keep all the old assets graffiti etc
I don't like the design decision of everything being paper thin. I'm sure when playing it I won't mind, but it just irks me a bit that it seems like all the nips over don't know shit about the original.
I just really don't care for the graphics in general
>we made everything shiny and bloomy and it runs at 30 FPS because of it
Shit art direction more than anything else. The 30 FPS are the final nail in the coffin.
good lord, is the apocalypse starting outside there? how can you not put a fricking skybox behind those windows?
tbh they should've just remade the N64 one. ttyd doesn't even look bad by today's standards (besides the twilight town pigs).
N64 has a perfect artstyle, it's not a game that was held back by technical limitations. it doesn't need a remake either. none of these games do.
corporations need to just learn to remaster games and release them as is rather than giving them a worse paint job
They showed ONE piece of concept art in the previews, and it's the one that shows the pigs are supposed to be papercraft. Their polygonal look is caused by them being made of folded paper. Ironic that one of the few instances of the original going for a paper look for something is the one thing you say needs to be changed, considering they appear to have changed literally everything else to be paper-themed instead.
the pigs being papercraft makes sense, but to be fair, they just kinda looked low-poly and ugly in the original imo.
They should have remade 64 and ported TTYD, instead they did the opposite.
Just add the audience participation in battle to 64 and you have an objectively better game than TTYD.
>Just add the audience participation in battle to 64 and you have an objectively better game than TTYD.
No you don't, because what makes TTYD better than 64 isn't the battle system, it's the story.
What the frick? No, not at all.
>AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS
Yes. But I'm more talking about the chapter to chapter story than the overall plot, although this too is also superior to 64 (with the door's mystery and so on). TTYD had you get your body and friends stolen by a ghost you'd have to guess the name of by recruiting a former enemy who wouldn't even understand your identity until the end. Or have you compete in a wrestling tournament to steal the trophy... but then the trophy is fake and you're trying to uncover a mystery about kidnapped fighters, disappearances, a guy named X sending you mysterious mails and also various sabotages (poisoned food, locked room...). This is gold for a kid.
I think they've both got their good and bad.
64 has:
>Being an archeologist and finding a buried temple
>Fighting a literal army inside a toybox
>Being an intrepid explorer through a jungle into a volcano
>Being in a murder mystery and going to the most aesthetic place in the entire series (Crystal Palace)
TTYD has:
>Fighting a dragon
>Being a pro wrestler
>Losing your identity and having to fight "Mario"
>Getting shipwrecked and fighting a pirate ghost
>Being a detective on a train
>Going to the moon
I guess listing it out with your childlike wonder criteria, TTYD wins out
I really like some of 64's scenarios. The Toy Box and the way it messes with the hub is very underrated. But overall TTYD is where you get the most impressive scenes that stuck with me. Chapter 5 not only has you stranded, the ending of the chapter has you force an alliance with your former enemy by threatening to throw his israeliteel to the sea so you can use his phantom ship to beat the X Nauts in a naval battle. How cool is that?
It's pretty cool! I'll admit I'm a little jaded by the backtracking, but I'll never forget that time Crump called out to "you, yeah you in front of the TV!" kid me was like "whoa!!!!"
5 would have benefited from a map rework to make the backtracking interesting this time (or remove it by adding a location or two).
But that still leaves you with a game that has inferior chapter concepts, dialogue, characters, gameplay, general creativity, etc. to its successor, so how would that make for an objectively better game?
>top: comic book
>bottom: Indian assets
>game improves in a small way
>"NO YOU CANT DO THAT GOOMBELLA ISNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A BACK SPRITE"
It's not about the back sprite, it's about the joke being less funny. Hardly a BAD thing but it's a bit worse, clearly.
expect it doesn't, it's more in her character to comment as she comments on everything else in the game, and you're autistic to the point where any change is considered wrong so who gives a shit about what you "think"?
>it's more in her character
She didn't see it in the OG game.
>it doesn't
It does. There's a nice joke with Toadsworth talking over the actual scene
It's a joke. It's lost in the process. Maybe you think the current version is funnier or better, and you're free to do so. But we OBJECTIVELY lost that joke in the tradeoff. I'm saying the tradeoff was negative in my opinion, to which you can disagree. But there was a tradeoff.
Game didn’t need fixin. Simple as.
Frick em. You don’t owe them anything after they ignored community requests for two decades. This isn’t crowdfunding either, last time I checked.
why is the right taking place in mexico?
ADOLF HITLAH!
whats your fricking problem now you stupid baby
kek, are they genuinely afraid of the N letter? Will they rebrand themselves to Itedo now?
>paper mario was supposed to be charming and 2d
>give everything an outline and definition and depth to make it look 3d
They don't try to hide the fact that hooktail is a girl anymore
Goombella calls her a girl when you tattle hooktail.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but didnt the original keep it a secret until you meet gloomtail just so that it could be used as a twist?
>That's Hooktail! Max HP is 20, Attack is 5, and Defense is 1. It'll stomp and munch on you, and it has a more dragonish attack: stinky, fiery breath! It's tricky, especially when it's losing, and it'll try to fool you into being merciful. Oh, yeah, and one more thing. It hates things that start with "cr" and end with "icket". Supposedly, there's something related to that somewhere in this castle. Did we find it?
They intentional avoid pronouns in her Tattle
the original (real original jap version) didn't keep it a secret
also they changed it so hooktail dislikes frogs like the original.
I can't believe Hooktail hates the French.
She's still upset they didn't back America's occupations of the Middle East.
opinions on Goombella?
should have hot lesbian sex with the rest of the female party
fleshlight
She'd look great obese
sex
ouch, paper cut
she looks better as a goomba
BONK
>arms
>frickable waddling head
>give her arms and legs
Cringe, lose the body.
This remake is pretty useless to me since I already beaten this game roughly 2 years ago. I'll treat like the M&L remakes where they'll only be good for soundtrack fodder and nothing else. Still, imaging scalpergays seething about people probably not wanting to buy $70 worth of an old game is a joy think about. Also going from 60fps to 30fps is an extreme downgrade and I'm not even a fpsgay like that. I'll never know why newer games get fricked like this compared to older ones.
Hilariously, TTYD Remake is probably going to be easier to mod so we'll be getting some good stuff
>scalpergays seething
I'm convinced that was a big part of why the remake was even made in the first place.
Nintendo saw others making moron money and thought "that could be going to US!"
The Gamecube version won't go down in value that much due to it being the original without all the changes to the script, having a higher framerate and being usable as a boot disc for hacked memory cards.
more importantly
>the N in the background
>now an ll
Concept art is cool but I wish there was the option to switch between the original OST and the remake OST, the SMRPG remake had it why couldn't this have it too?
You can. It's a badge.
Oh didn't nkow that, that's cool
so it's one of those 0 BP badges?
why would they do it like that and not an option in the menu?
>there's badges that change Mario's clothes
>there's badges that change Mario's sfx
>why not make the soundtrack swap a badge too
probably something like that
It's dumb and will just clutter the badge list
You're dumb and just clutter the thread.
you're fat mom's ass can't fit in a car
Soul
There's a badge that will let you switch soundtracks.
there is, but it's through a badge called Nostalgic Tunes.
likely obtainable very early on.
People who played TTYD as a child are now remaking it officially.
Regional battle themes confirmed
I wonder who the composer is, reminds me of M&L a bit, is it Yoko?
30 fps downgrade is not acceptable
60fps on Switch 2 coming November 2024 :^)
meh, it's nothing to get mad about. I have my original copy, as do many of the people who will be buying this game. Also, as soon as it comes out, people will be ripping and emulating it on PC at 60fps. Once there, people can mod the politically correct and homosexual shit out.
chuds can't romhack, moron.
Fake photoshopped images.
Sad and pathetic.
we need modders to remove the disgusting reflective surfaces
where's the soul?
Bottom looks so fricking bad man. 0/10 skybox, style is fricked. They kept the character sprites as they should be (mostly) but everything else has issues.
the new trees are so bad
>floor has reflections because its made of plastic
dude paper lmao
they are trying too hard to make everything look like paper that it just looks worse than before in the end
>top
>strong color pallete looks like a bright fantasy
>bottom
>dull overcast repetivive patterns that was made by ai
The flowers from the bottom at the worst part.
the clouds are fricked off too
>Ganker is excited to spend $60 to play this game again but worse
JESUS FRICK WHY DID PAPER MARIO TAKE PAPER SO LITERALLY IT'S A NAME NOT A STYLE THIS IS WHY MARIO & LUIGI WILL ALWAYS BE THE SUPERIOR RPG
>THIS IS WHY MARIO & LUIGI WILL ALWAYS BE THE SUPERIOR RPG
Anon...I've got some real bad news...
The worst of M&L is light years better than the worst of PM.
Yes, but I don't think the best of M&L is better than the best of PM.
That's not what I'm referring to.
WHY DOES NITNENDO MAKES THE WORSE FRICKING RPGS OF ALL TIME NOW?????? XENOBLADE 3 FIRE EMBLEM ENGAGE AND THIS ARE SO FRICKING BAD OMG!!!!!!!
>snoytroons falseflaging about muh fps
TTYD looked CRISP and super fluid. 30 FPS is definitely a huge downgrade, you'll be missing those frames when every animation looks stiff.
like you're missing your balls
Bro, you're defending the remake of a game that was 60 frames per second being lowered to 30. Why are you this much of a drone?
literally doesnt matter no one cares
dude if the original from 20 years ago runs better then the remake thats meant to the the better version
thats a massive issue
When they say "remake", what they actually mean is: "rewritten".
Were we wrong all along, Ganker? "'Paper"" Mario was just regular mainline 3D from Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, Odyssey etc. on RPG style adventures before Paper Jam retconned it into being a separate alternate explicitly paper universe?
>troony flag
Rare troony being sane? At least about Mario
>even the trannies hate it
damn nintendo really fricked this one up
i'm glad i never played any other paper mario game after TTYD.
what a shitshow that has become over the decades
>Fawfulthegreat64
I hate this obnoxious troony homosexual so goddamn much He's right about the on-the-nose paper jokes, though.
>shitty 2D
>schizo gameplay
>story with great highs but also that takes itself way too seriously with the cringe romance
>WHAT ABOUT THE gayS THOUGH?
Can't wait for him to join the 52
>story with great highs
where
I really like slavery chapter. And "dying" and trying to go back. Also working with Bowser is neat and Mr L was funny.
>Mr L was funny.
i disagree
>takes itself way too seriously
That's exactly what I like about it: it takes itself seriously and is 100% sincere in its presentation instead of the irony poisoned self aware garbage you see in nu-Paper Mario.
That's a great point and I very much agree.
Rather than taking itself seriously, I should rephrase it: I think SPM is too melodramatic. TTYD is taking itself 100% seriously and it's sincere (just like SPM) but the story is a more standard anime like one, about traveling to new places, meeting new people, uncovering 7 McGuffins and uncovering a huge mystery while an enemy organization is trying to foil your plans and (maybe?) conquer the world. The romance stuff in SPM wasn't fundamentally wrong but in execution it feels weird.
same i love that about spm
thats what kept me invested till the end
im so happy i grew up on games like drawn to life(both ds games) cause thats what got me into story based games
mimi is still my favorite mario gal
i love this brat
i know right?
I still can't believe they actually gave her a catfight with Peach
>homosexualflag demands societal change
Sorry but you just got gay rights just 10 years ago. And japan, who makes this game, doesn't acknowledge you in their country. Frick off.
>complains about a game being "heteronormative" from 2007
god i hate twitter degenerates. these people belong in a mental asylum.
They... they always win... We need to take the blackpill amd just give up.
This! They control everything! We will never be happy again... we might as well just kill ourselves...
I hope you choke to death on that blackpill you angsty homosexual.
Why are you giving it (You)s?
I don't like paper jokes being shoved down my throat also but advertising for Paper Mario has always leaned in on the paper aesthetic even if the games don't really reflect it that much, at least in the west. Also frick that guy, he's so obnoxious everywhere he goes.
was the japanese advertisement also like this or only the american one?
who cares
I do, this distinction is actually important because it means the american side was to blame for the funny paper puns if only they did it back in the 64 days, reminder that the original PM was called mario story in japan
Paper Mario 64, no, though I did always notice the guy say "Papah Mario" which is I'm a little surprised by considering the Mario Story name but it's not like I know Japanese.
TTYD though leaned heavily on the curses. I like how the JP trailer for the remake references it. I wish we could have the Mario theme covers in these commercials.
Probably only Super Paper Mario stood out to me as not really mentioning the paper aesthetic really.
sovl
>white outline around mario
Series was over before I started.
>NOOO NOT THE PUNS
>I LITERALLY HAD TO PAUSE THE TRAILER JUST TO MAKE THIS TWEET GUYS OH MY GOD
>GUYS IM LITERALLY SHITTING AND DIALATING I CANT BELIEVE PAPER MARIO IS MADE OUT OF PAPER
/v/irgins are doing the same thing in this thread, two sides of the same coin.
I hate Ganker too
>troony is super autistic about the game about paper people using paper puns
>just like Ganker
two side of the same coin
I hate the Switch
Bloom looks good, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't.
Holy shit look everybody, it's the guy who made WWHD!
>buying remasters of anything 6th gen or later
Lol, no. I'm playing this shit on my Gamecube and CRT. Poorhomosexuals dont @ me
most boring game in the history of boring games holy shit.
Oh that’s just sad man
Why does the new one have to look worse
Is PM just not allowed to not look like shit anymore
It's not SHIT but it's not great either.
I expected worse, but we deserved better.
more importantly, why does TTYD need a visual overhaul in the first place despite holding up perfectly well
Kawade, the director for the first three PM games, hasn't worked on one since SPM. If there's no Kawade, it's not going to live up to those games.
>why does TTYD need a visual overhaul in the first place despite holding up perfectly well
How else would they sell it at a hefty price?
>refuse to rerelease game for two decades
>refuse to even make a true sequel
>kill your consumer-friendly retro shop
>wait for passionate autists and influencers to convince zoomers / secondaries that they love TTYD despite never having played it
>need to damage control after telling fans to frick off after Origami King
>too lazy to build something from the ground up
It’s that easy, and the worst part is that the Switch consumer base is so ignorant that they’re eating this shit up. TTYD should have been available on the eshop priced at $20 for years now, but people are happy to pay $40 more for what is essentially the same game.
oh my science it looks so much like FRICKING paper I'm gonna FRICKING cum
Man these games used to make me dream. Why is Nintendo so cucked?
>these games used to make me dream
How old were you at the time?
12? I don't expect modern games to have the same effect on me, but I can still tell what's good from ironic "self-aware" garbage with no sense of wonder or adventure. I think even kid me would find nu PM boring.
>I think even kid me would find nu PM boring.
As a '99babby, I can confirm that Sticker Star was incredibly boring at a similar age.
Some people would try to defend TOK because TOK is obviously better than SS but I think for a kid with basic standards (kid standards), the best TOK can be is "okay".
You would be surprised. I had a kid tell me he loved Paper Mario only for him to later tell me he has only played Sticker Star. OK is a big step up for some of these fans.
I just like how comfy 64 is. Only TTYD Chapter 6 comes close for me.
64 is beautiful, TTYD looked pretty nice too. I'm tired of remakes raping the art direction and lighting, at least try to stay faithful or don't even bother.
These games had some real ideas (other than PAPER)
I wonder how that chapter is gonna look now since it's whole style is super high contrast compared to the lighting in the rest of the game (even the endgame shadow temple) and that kind of start black color is only allowed as a skintone in modern games.
Xenoblade 3 literally has two trannies in it and retconned an existing character into nonbinary.... Nintendo is so woke now...
This.... We already surrendered, just stop bullying us you fricking freaks!!!! *sob*
>that new trailer
It’s bad enough that they spoil of shit ton of neat stuff for the zoomies, but they also dedicate a lot of time to the paper curses. Easily the worst trailer I’ve seen for a game in a long time.
>24 years later
>The best looking Paper Mario game is still on the N64
What's the deal
No one's porting decomped PM1 for whatever reason.
They did tho
https://papermar.io/
where's the port
Even Rogueport as a concept was really cool. Peach's last speech about it was great.
what is that dialogue mean
You lost chuds, get used to it or find a new hobby.
Hopefully is runs at 60 FPS on emulator
I just don't understand why they have to gloat so much, Gankerros... These trannies already won, they're just going to keep winning, devs are going to keep kneeling to them and soon even Jap devs won't be safe, why do they have to rub it in our faces?
Slit your throat, bikinischizo
Apologize.
it got paper in the name get lost
You just know.
Not going to lie, my first instinct was looking at the grafitti for some reason instead of the hand.
I'm surprised they made it so Mario tips at ledges like Sticker Star so he doesn't fall into water easily.
I don't understand the insistence on two outlines.
It's smaller than the other games but still makes it look worse than the originals.
Are you legit blind or just trolling?
Most people don't realize the "outline" they're seeing in this remake is just their edges extruding a bit and the game is at a little bit of an angle.
Yeah, but I'm saying that You'd have to be legitimately blind to not see it in motion.
It's obvious, it just doesn't look great.
I like the little puppets 🙁
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Can't wait for release day and watch troons flip their shit when the whole "gender identity" thing isn't addressed at all.
>Gamexplain is boiling Vivian down to "troony troony troony troony"
Make it fricking stop
Can you still try and smell the dragons feet?
>game is remade
>REEEEEEEE WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT, THE NO LIGHTING EFFECTS WERE PERFECT
People don't complain about lighting effects but badly integrated new 3D assets that don't fit the (mostly kept similar) 2D artstyle. As well as the loss of some of the artstyle identity, from comic book to papercraft.
Yes. This is egregious and even a kid would find this annoying. It's not normal that you'd have to suffer 2 minutes of PAPER PAPER PAPER before seeing the actual gameplay.
We wouldn't be complaining if they rereleased the game as is or make a new game instead of paving over the art of an old one.
Right looks better
It's cool how party members get their own themes now, this scene originally had no music: https://youtu.be/gCS78mcKp1Y?t=190
It's fine but these Black folk put music EVERYWHERE. Hooktail got a pre battle music for the like 30s scene she got.
I was noticing that, even the black chests have a theme now.
I was leaning towards actually getting a copy of the remake but 30fps just might be a deal breaker for me. That is fricking insane. Its a turn based RPG from the Gamecube with 2D on 3D looking graphics. Why would anyone accept this as okay?
Lol imagine playing hyper archaic binary based electrical algorithms instead of scrying on giga modern sorting systems using a tape. I've basically been communicating with higher dimensions on my Walmart prebuilt PC on highest settings while you slaves are stuck playing Mario
>dude paper lmao
>30fps
I hope the game at least has some new content like the SMRPG remake, otherwise you're strictly better off emulating the GCN version with widescreen and texture hacks
I'm just expecting the game will run at 120fps like the smrpg remake did on Yuzu
>don't want to support woke trash that runs worse than the original
>probably the only chance to support good sovlful paper mario
Bros I don't know what to do.
Stop believing Nintendo will EVER deliver.
Paper Mario is dead. Its body is being puppeteered. That's all there is.
same vibe
stop talking about emulation you freak
>from an enthusiastic cheer to a half-hearted thumbs up
soulless
I really fricking like the new paper look. I just fricking hate that it's 30fps.
the battle music dynamically changing for every level is awesome, and it seems like they extended some of the shorter repetitive tracks too
it's a bit of a shame about the homogenized "dude jazz LMAO" instrumentation they keep going with but still pretty cool
>30FPS
>Censored dialogue
No thanks might pirate it before release.
Is the Reagan joke still in?
mayor kroop secretly sold arms to x-naut insurgents
i don't get it