Let's settle this

Is Charizard actually a strong pokemon?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not particularly

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In terms of raw power, yes, if she's Mega Evolved or has Solar Power. But the quad weakness to Rock fucks her over since every compfag under the sun has at least one Pokemon with Smogon Rock.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >she
      doing too much man

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >she
      posters like you need to be tortured to death

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No u

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >50 percent hp gone when switched in due to stealth rock
    >if it has heavy boots use knock off and force charizard to switch
    >when it comes back in it loses 50 percent

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's worthless in anime, manga and Gen1~Gen5.
    it's good in Gen6 because of mega, and alright in Gen8 at best.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, but it is strong for one thing.
      Making schizophrenics like furious.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Not really, but it is strong for one thing.
      >Making schizophrenics like furious.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Take away his many gimmicks and he’s a very mediocre mixed attacker.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Watching Charizards get shat on in comp gives me a massive erection

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I used to go to youtube competitive videos and every video that says Charizard was pretty bad in meta, the comment section was always popcorn-worthy full of salty charizard fans

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Watching Charizards get shat on in comp gives me a massive erection

        Take away his many gimmicks and he’s a very mediocre mixed attacker.

        all this is true. Reminder that without its special snowflake privileges, in BDSP it's worse than Typhlosion (the pokemon infamous for being "worse flightless charizard because same stats but worse movepool" and "Kanto DLC" and "Johto can't stand on its own" )
        And no, BDSP didn't suddenly make Typhlosion amazing, fuck it didn;t give Typhlosion anything. It's just that Typhlosion was so neglected since the original DP's release that it was unaffected by BDSP cutting out moves and gimmicks. Meanwhile stuff like CHARIZARD that leaned on them were knocked down several pegs.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Game wise? Eh, it's mid.
    Anime wise? There are few really pushed Charizards that are here due to its status as "strong, badass Pokemon". Ironically tho one that is the reason why Charizard has this reputation appeared last time in BW series, around 10 freaking years ago.
    TPC genuinely does not understand Charizard. It's not a specie on its own that people enjoyed, its specifically Ash's Charizard. And it's kinda frustrating because both XY and Journeys had perfect setup for him to return as Ash's strongest Pokemon and mirror to main rival's/final opponent's own Charizards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Zard is pushed hard because it was the first Pokemon people saw on the cover of Pokemon Red when Pokemon first came out (even before the Pokemon anime made Pikachu the mascot and resulted in Pokemon Yellow). Ash's zard (and the other shilled zards too) built on that nostalgia which is why they evolved so quickly compared to his other mons who are still unevolved. It's the original game seller and everyone still eats that shit up.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It has an unfortunate existence. It has moments where it's meta defining, and more moments where it's bad. Biggest example I can think of is how it's actually extraordinarily bad in Gen 1, worse than Blastoise and Venusaur that dominate the game and even worse competitively. After that it falls to gimmick sets with Belly Drum, provided it can actually set up, then goes back down again in usefullness for a bit thanks to sneaky pebbles before Gen 6 had its megas make it god tier. Those are gone now, so G-Max is what keeps it showing up in VGC, but otherwise the base form of Charizard throughout all this is basically considered a joke.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zard Y is strong when under sun and due to its crazy Sp atk stat. Still slow as shit and often gets KO'd before getting a move off due to starting at half health.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Charizard is strong, then my Aurorus is an absolute beast.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only in Gens 1 and 6.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only with the Megas. On other note, it's good to see Feraligatr finally is recognized as one of the strongest starters in BDSP meta.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it holds a charizardite, then it can be strong

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