Now that the honeymoon/buyer cope period is over I actually realize that I fricking hate this game
>nonsensical boss attack patterns with almost 0 tells
>le delayed swings for 8 seconds in in the middle of a combo
>weapon handles are almost all shit and too slow if you're a STRchad
>see this item? make sure to look at your surroundings for an ambush because there will be an ambush (there was an ambush)
>green monster of the swamp
>magnus phase 2
Nice of the devs to include summons, this game would've been unmanageable otherwise. Lies of P more like Lies of PISS
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It's my GOTY
it's better than Bloodborne, the genre is just kusoge
In what way besides copy paste Sekiro combat is it better than Bloodborne?
It's not 30fps lmao
is it really hard to beat the game at 30 fps? i played till micolash before i had sell my ps4. it was better than dark souls 1 on the ps3 for me
for me it's literally impossible
The game doesn't stay at 30FPS, some boss attacks like chalice hotdog charge nearly crash the fricking game. Bloodborne on real hardware would go from a 9/10 to an 11/10.
Denuvo+ue+ asiatic code
its not a copy paste of sekiro or bloodborne.
thats the beginners trap, thinking of it like that. it doesn't quite play like either despite the similarities in concept. if you try to play it like sekiro you will die, if you play it like bloodborne, you will die
It's not better than bloodborne lmao
It's more than twice the game bloodborn is
Spoken like someone who hasn't played Bloodborne. Lies of P is great but it isn't Bloodborne
>it's better than Bloodborne
your springs are reacting...
Anon you realize that happens when you tell the truth right? Your ergo reacts when you lie. Or is that what you meant and you're based
He's saying that poster is a bot cuz you have to be a chink marketer to think this is better than Bloodborne
Anon, both messages are from lying. Ergo Reacts is just the second stage of becoming human.
>download on game pass
>unplayable with kbnm
>uninstall
lazy game, they spent everything on art and marketing instead of gameplay
works on my machine? I can play the game on M+k
I think he meant he tried to play via cloud gaming
I'm really enjoying it but these are all fair criticisms
>6 hours+ on Romeo and still didn't beat him
I mean his build is fricking trash but still.
he's fat
Watching Aris is the biggest deterrent to ever touching weed lmao.
Trying to watch him make sense of BG3 is like watching a toddler trying to do quantum physics.
well hes about to get nerfed so its whatever
His run playing Elden Ring was somthing legends are made out of. Oddly he goes against meta and some how Ganker still gets triggered
joseph anderson the king of Ganker said it was better than all other Fromsoft games, you lost.
Based. Only patricians will agree.
a fully agree, but Joseph anderson is a fat lefty furry and needs to be culled.
>watched Twitch vod and he actually said this
Goddamn makes me feel less crazy for thinking the same. Great fricking game
Timestamp?
Idk, near the very end of his second to last stream as credits are rolling.
Someone linked a youtube highlight of his post-credits talk. He said its the 2nd best soulslike, after Sekiro (when it comes to bossfights, he couldn't say for sure for overall quality).
He talks about it here. One thing he mentions is the insane enemy variety which I was also super impressed with. Most of these soulslikes totally fail on that front so it was so refreshing to constantly have new enemies popping up throughout the whole game
JA is a turbo autists who spends way too much time with videogames. I enjoy his content but you should take his opinion with a grain of salt
>turboautist who spends too much time with videogames
Isnt this exactly why his opinion should hold some weight
No, it's often detached from reality precisely because he is that autistic
pretty much this. the man is genuinely autistic in a way that is not conductive to having good opinions on video games. it's real hard to encapsulate what makes him so alien but it does not take too long from watching his videos for you to realize he really is detached from reality
homie have you read the shit no life schizos post on this very board?
Joseph Anderson is a complete moron who doesn't know who makes 2 hour long videos about things he understands only superficially and got completely filtered by Elden Ring's bosses (and got utterly btfo by this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ_9F73R1tE).
I haven't yet played Lies of PP but it must be mediocre at best if JA thinks it's great.
Anyone else agree this is the worst section in the game?
No I love levels that are anything like Blighttown or Sen's Fortress, I'm a masochist for hostile level design.
Unironically, my dream Souls game is one where every area is like Sens Fortress.
Crazy that developers STILL haven't realized people want to dungeon crawl.
Extremely based. I'd love one where the "nexus" equivalent is just the heart of a seemingly endless dungeon and you can choose multiple different entrances into different wings of the dungeon (functioning like worlds in Demon's Souls), with the ultimate goal of escaping it intact (or perhaps becoming its new master).
I yearn for larger Chalice Dungeons
same. i loved this and the abbey. hostile dungeons are the best
Yeah it's certainly up there. I hate any areas in soulslikes where they want you to walk across a bunch of thin beams over instant death pits while enemies throw shit at you.
I hated it so much I never realized when you burn away the poison at the bottom that it opens up some stairs until I did it again in ng+. I was just thankful to be out of there.
>nonsensical boss attack patterns with almost 0 tells
Git gud, just learn the patterns moron instead of bruteforcing.
>weapon handles are almost all shit and too slow if you're a STRchad
Factually wrong.
>green monster of the swamp
Easy as frick boss, bait his charge move and dig animation for easy punish, phase 2 is a little annoying I agree.
Now lets talk about real problems:
>Game story is utterly generic garbage, its Pinnochio, astroboy, batman and souls games mash-up, not a single drop of creativity, try to pull feelings from you but its badly delivered
>asiatics don't know the difference between a lie and plain simple cordiality
>Gemini its your marvel-quipper, really destroy a lot of important moments in the story and some of his quips are just unnecessary
>asiatics don't know the difference between a lie and plain simple cordiality
Anon, that's literally the entire point of the game and the lies that don't give the humanity increase are those lies told to be a dick.
Not so jumpy now homosexual.
>shit game doesn't have a general on /vg/ after a week
shills on suicide watch
Why the frick would you want a general for a single player game with no mods.
At most, you could do something like "Souls-like General", but that would implode in seconds.
HOW THE FRICK do i manage against the one giant arm coomlords who throw poison everywhere? Trying not to waste my poison cure items
Which ones, the fat ranged b***hes? They're pretty squishy, either rush them down or snipe them with throwing items.
Nah the ones that get introduced in chapter 9 that spam poison mist all over the ground, they arent nearly as squishy as the ones youre thinking of
Oh right, those c**ts. Best I can say is hit and run or to just avoid them entirely if possible.
they just pushed a nerf patch. if you didn't beat the game, you've never beaten it.
fake
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1627720/view/3709334211503505875
holy fricking soulless
glad I beat the game before that. imagine playing lies of piss for casuals kek
cope, moron. game is nerfed.
Time to wait denuvo off
>can't beat NG+ anymore
it's over
why's it called lies of p anyway, what's the title mean
Lies of Penis :DDD
>"your heart is pounding" after listening to the record left by Antonia
Kino also was cutting it close apparently. Laxatives wasn't nearly as bad as people here made it out to be. Phase 2 was actually fun
Laxative is one of the best fights in the game. Second phase OoT-ganondorf beachball part was fun addition.
they just dropped an easy mode patch, you casuals get what you wanted
If you haven't beat the game yet, now you never will.
What did they change im only on chapter 9
You will fight nerfed Manus, besides that I think you're good.
Update Notes Version 1.2.0.0
Balance Changes
Field Monster Balance Changes
- Decreased the HP of certain field monsters
- Increased the chance of breaking some monsters' stance and the frequency of stagger
- Increased the staggerable window time
Decrease the HP of all 3 types of Dimensional Butterflies
Adjusted the rewards for some monsters
- Increased the drop rate of Moonstone type items
- Decreased the drop rate of Star Fragments
- Increased the drop rate of Ergo items
- Increased the Ergo rewards of certain monsters that appear after Lorenzini Arcade"
Boss Monster Balance Changes
- Decreased the HP of 'Fallen Archbishop Andreus'
- Decreased the HP of 'King of Puppets' in the first phase
- Decreased the HP of 'Simon Manus, Arm of God'
- Decreased the damage of 'Simon Manus, Awakened God'
- Increased the chance to break the stance of 'Simon Manus, Awakened God'"
Increased the Specter's HP and damage
System Changes Related to the Character Progression Reset
- Added the feature to reset the character's level, P-Organ, and Legion Arms at the 'Gold Coin Tree'
- Characters created after this patch will now receive 8 Gold Coin Fruits instead of 5 for their first harvest
- Adjusted the required amount of gold coins to reset the character's level, P-Organ, and Legion Arms
Additional Changes
- Players will now be able to carry more weight for each point spent on Capacity
- Decreased the weight of Amulets that could be purchased with Boss Ergo
- Players will now be able to land attacks better when they use fable arts that consume three or more slots. (includes Fable Arts that stack)
- Successfully performing the Fable Art 'Guard Parry' will now break the monster's stance
kek i just beat ng earlier today, i really did beat the game
same, beat the final final boss a few hours ago
50 hour playthrough but i afk quite a bit, probably closer to 40-45
man shit was already easy with a specter lmao
> Players will now be able to carry more weight for each point spent on Capacity
> Decreased the weight of Amulets that could be purchased with Boss Ergo
lol yeah shit was weighing a ton for no reason
Only good change, I went through the whole game and never used a boss amulet because they were too god damn heavy.
I used the one that gives you more damage based on fable bars. I was like 79% weight the entire game. Think i had 24 capacity at the end with a heavy str weapon and the strongest armors equipped.
whens this drop? im stuck at manus, tell me theyre gonna nerf him and whatevers after him
its already live on steam
im on ps5, is the update for pc only now?
start your PS5 and immediately stop the download, then turn it into offline mode.
otherwise you will play the game with the nerf patch and that means YOU DID NOT!!!! BEAT!!!!!THE!!!GAME!!!!!!
im at stuck at manus at what looks like one of the last bosses, i pretty much beat the game, how many more bosses after manus? if ita under 3 i beat the game
1 More depending on what ending you choose.
If you update your game, you are NO LONGER beating the game
>All those HP decreases
Man I fricking called that shit.
I beat NG, but I won't be able to beat NG+ and NG++ now...
I hope the nerf helps with NG+ Simon since that's where I'm stuck now
is the update on gamepass yet? what the frick
holy frick
well looks like I still got time to beat the game
I finished ng++ and all achievements yesterday and the only thing that actually needs nerfed is door guardian's stagger on ng++. That shit was stupid.
Unironically made me uninstall, frick this shit. The worst part is that even when the game will be pirated it'll be the cucked updated version with no way to download the non nerfed one. Pathetic move from the devs
Just downgrade in steam
Do you guys actually care that much about this? It's not like they removed all challenge, a couple bosses were overtuned and they fixed it. It's a better experience now
People unironically put a part of their own self-worth into whether or not they can beat a difficult video game because they have nothing else to be proud of. It's honestly too sad to laugh at
>t. used summons and throwables on every boss
I used to like that and then I played Sekiro.
I fricking hated Sekiro, but I 100% the game just to say I did and realized at the end that what the frick was the point of a challenge if I didn't have fun doing to
Overcoming difficulty or challenges serve no point of you never have fun
pretty much this. You guys give too much importance for asiatic games. Unironically touch grass
I just like being able to fight the bosses how they were originally meant to. I assume before they shipped the game they playtested it and had people finish it. I don't want to be worse than a dev or a playtester.
The devs made the patch, ppl weren't having the intended experience before so they changed it. The bosses are now closer to the dev's vision, so enjoy
Could be closer to their vision, or they could be catering to people who want the game to be a little bit easier, it's impossible to know. Either way I'll enjoy the reduced HP amounts in a NG+ run if I decide to keep playing.
Nobody sane actually cares. Its just fun to poke fun at the morons who actually care. I'm over 30 and the moment I saw the patch notes, people kept laughing at the one guy in our group who didn't beat the game yet and now "it doesn't count online".
Yes people actually care, but people who don't use video games as a dick measuring contest or have lives so they can't finish a game in a day don't
I think the health needs are pointless when they fixed the damage issue but whatever
None of the bosses were overturned. Even magnus phase 2 that I struggled a lot with made sense considering that it's literally the endgame. It's a shame to see developers pussy out and not stock with their original intent, instead trying to please the newcomer at all costs.
https://nothinghuman.substack.com/p/the-tyranny-of-the-marginal-user
Read this article, it's unrelated to videogames but it definitely feels like they are trying to cater to an audience that never cared to begin with.
Its just a game lol, their game flop hard so they need some more of that twitch views, pffffffffffff
holy shit bros... half decade old game sell more than one week old game... omg...
So did LoP sold 10, 20 millions yet?
So did you learn english yet?
Its understandable, still better than your google translation asiatic of P though
>Its understandable
stretch
Use one of the 100% parry methods and frick him up when he charges. Try to stay at midrange to trick him to transforming his sword for openings
Frick. Meant for you
lol I leveled capacity to 50 and my P was still slightly heavy, I wonder what it will be now with the patch, those boss amulets were definitely too heavy
this mini boss was a pain in the frickin ass that i ended up bullying it in a corner with charged mjolnir+police baton attacks and it never did the duplication bullshit
But more importantly, did they add a second apple?
what do you even use them for?
One can be given to red lady for a record. If you fail a riddle you can give one to the statue in the opera house I think, which I never did because I already gave it to the red lady.
what braindead frick american fails a riddle in this game?
>"This blue flower has many ways to take root. But only on man does it ever bear fruit."
Apparently ergo is the right answer and not bruise. Sum bullshit.
Anon...
Only bruises can be on man, ergo can be in puppets OKAY.
Literally any animal can have brusies and where's the fruit of the bruise dumbass
The fruit is the big blue splotches. "Many ways to take root" is cause there are many ways to get hurt. You don't see bruises on animals cuz their fur covers it up.
They really should have just split all the 2 phase bosses into their own fights
that would be dumb and also makes no sense considering the time travel in this game.
but the game should have way less 2-phase bosses. King of Puppets should have been the first one.
The bishop being the first 2nd phase boss completely ruins Romeo's reveal.
Or just do the second phase at half health thing, Swamp Monster for example didn't need to be two full health bars.
stuck-at-manus bros..we're finally beating the game
YDNBTG
Yup the made it easier
https://mp1st.com/news/lies-of-p-update-1-02-for-september-27-brings-various-balance-changes
Anon are you fricking stupid, what do you think the point of him posting a picture of him updating was? Why do you feel the need to ruin and explain every joke?
Nta but youare the moron here. He didn't say any joke
Damn, they really did make everything easier.
Should have just added easy mode
>tfw the one boss i struggle with didnt get nerfed
I hate green monster so much
I love boss battles. I play games because I love boss battles. The boss battles are what I'm enjoying the least by a wide margin. If we had Lies of P levels and Souls bosses I'd be dreaming.
That being said I still think it's brilliant and a 9/10 if not more. It's my game of the generation thus far.
Some of the bosses are bad but Laxasia, Simon Manus, and Nameless Puppet back-to-back is a better ending than nearly all of the Souls games
abbey is gigakino; those 3 bosses on the way to the ending are a better ending than ANY souls main game lineup, you only have an argument if you include dlc, and sekiro if you end it with owl father and sword saint
still the best final area though for sure, great atmosphere and the boss fights just all feel amazing when put together like they are. at least laxasia and nameless escaped the nerf
>I LOVE THE COMBAT. THE ANIMATIONS ARE AMAZING.
>Game of generation
I wouldn't go that far. But its the first great souls-copy. It stands on its own legs, has fun combat and enough new things to be really good.
I will stand by it and there's really no competition for it so far for me, because I don't like open world or story games.
I agree with you anon. I cant think of another game in the last 3 yrs that I've enjoyed more, including Elden Ring. I like my Souls games to be a tight, replayable 15-30 hour experience, not a bloated open world.
MHW and Rise BTFO lies of p and souls trash so fricking hard its not even funny
Why are you jumping between this thread and the goty one shilling monster hunter, Raj? You talk a lot about this game for someone who thinks it is trash
Can you prove why did you think your "bootleg of the generation" is better than MHW since you keep talking about boss fights lol
That wasn't me. I don't know how I can be clearer about not playing open world shit.
>But its the first great souls-copy
this is my thought, best non-From soulslike game ever so far Nioh games don't count, they're their own thing
>I love boss battles. I play games because I love boss battles. The boss battles are what I'm enjoying the least by a wide margin
MH is miles better lol
> now I need to not install the patch or my opinions and boss wins will be forever invalid
Don't worry, we can still shitpost and say you used the shield arm glitch to beat the game
>Elden Ring got a nerf patch
>AC6 got a nerf patch
>Now even this game too
OH MY FRICKING GOD LEAVE VIDEO GAMES ALONE
These fricking autistic ass devs probably QA'd the shit out of every fricking boss in the game and then you come to them and b***h that they made it too hard. I can't believe this shit, I'm on chapter 11 now but havent gotten to Manus yet.
Probably they are just accidently overtuned the boss lol
You have to buy the game day 1 and beat it within a week to play the true game it seems. I beat ng++ in AC6 an hour before the nerf patch dropped, beat Lies of P a day before the nerf patch. These games are the most fun playing blind and unnerfed, its a shame future gamers will never get to experience it the correct way.
git gud
>just beat Manus and Nameless Puppet
>close game after credits
>see patch notes
How do I avoid installing this on the Gamepass version?
Reminder: There is NOTHING wrong with playing on a new patch. There is NOTHING wrong with using summons or any other gameplay mechanics.
You BEAT the game and you are valid.
Screaming gamer can't take that from you.
My biggest peez with this game is basic roll functionality from souls & estus charges locked behind a skill tree. It feels so fricking bad not having them that they are almost a mandatory pickups, an illusion of choice.
People use healing items in these games?
If I used healing did I beat the game?
>He doesn't chug all his heals before the bossfight to get all the sweet P-Organ buffs
NGMI
I've never thought to try that, just stack all the "out of heals" buffs and chug everything at the bonfire, relying off whatever refills I get.
You can make a build around having no heals tho.
>- Increased the chance of breaking some monsters' stance and the frequency of stagger
>- Increased the staggerable window time
>- Increased the Ergo rewards of certain monsters that appear after Lorenzini Arcade"
>- Increased the chance to break the stance of 'Simon
>all the "additional changes" and "system related changes" (respec cheaper, capacity buff, boss emulets lighter, multi part fable easier to land, guard parry buff)
These are strictly good things. all of the hp and damage nerfs can suck a frick though. what a load of bull crap
Yeah I agree that if they are actually letting you get consistent damage and staggers than there is no reason to lower health
The massive health bars were a problem because of how hard it was to stagger and even land a hit so it would even trigger
You missed the biggest upgrade:
>Decreased the drop rate of Star Fragments
Frick looting these things all game long, when I didn't use summons once.
just sell them? are you stupid?
Frick you I'm not poor
HOW DO I REVERT THE PATCH???!!
it's over
your copy of the game is invalidated
I think on steam you actually can get previous versions of a game, you'll have to look it up though
Just beat the homosexual rabbits. It’s a very hard game, every enemy holds their hands up in the air for 3-4 seconds longer than a real life attack and there’s no hyper armor. In other words it’s still better than Dark Souls LMFAO
Them holding their hands in their air is a cue for you to ram your big stance in their face to regain health. It's like greatshield tanking
let me guess, chapter 5?
the quality of carcass enemies is so much worse than puppets it feels like two different teams made them
What do you mean by quality
animations, design, mechanics everything
Hm I disagree and enjoyed most of the carcass enemies, but they dont get more interesting til chapter 8 or so iirc. I thought they were on par with the puppets at least
What I love the most about carcass enemies, is that you just fricking explode their heads or split them in half when you get the fatal blow finish, or just a heavy attack finish.
I still can't figure out the different types other than puppet. Everything feels like a puppet with extra goo on them
Carcasses are fleshy and super blue, often cause decay. Humans just look like humans. There are some puppets near the end that are infected and I'm not sure if they count as puppets or carcasses for like damage bonuses
Aight so that illusion duplicating mini boss gay on the way to the hotel or after I forgot, would be human or carcass?
Human, typically will physically look normal with some apparatus pumping ergo into them. Also frick that guy.
If it bleeds blue (and is like a feral monster), its carcass. If it bleeds blue, but has like tanks of Ergo going into them, they are human (and you should use acid).
Wow, they removed so much health from King of Puppets. I thought it would just be a bit but it feels almost like 50% less health.
>Patches make elden ring harder
>Patches make lies of p easier.
>radahn
>increased weapon speeds
Stop lying. From got BTFO by 20 koreans with half the budget. Pretty sad
nah he's right. it made the game harder way more than it made the game easier. that being said theres still plenty of abusable horseshit in ER
Honestly havent played it in like a year after putting in ~150 hours. What got easier?
Radahn was nerfed, and a lot of the underpowered weapons and weapon classes got poise and speed buffs. It was strictly a good thing though and makes the game more fun.
There were a handful of these patches so hard to summarize it better than that
Frick i meant to ask what got HARDER not easier. I thought patches made it easier but ppl were saying otherwise
>Frick i meant to ask what got HARDER not easier.
Mimic tear nerfed, the other 2nd best black hand b***h i think also got nerfed?
Bloodhound step nerfed, rivers of blood nerfed, sofai (firin ma laser sword) nerfed. basically all the stuff that broke the fricking game
>that being said theres still plenty of abusable horseshit in ER
no there isn't, every crutch has been nerfed
bloodhound step is still too good in pve
I am terribly sorry, but if you used any summons or throwables you didn't beat the game. It's piss easy as it is.
If you are having trouble with this game you might actually be mentally challenged
How do you get off pretending to find everything easy all the time? What kind of autism causes this? What's the appeal?
After a shitload of testing I have concluded the best non boss weapon is the maxed tyrants dagger on the city spear handle with a motivity crank to get it to C C
You guys dodged attacks instead of perfect guarding everything? You didn't beat the game.
skill issue
The patch nerfs didn't seem too bad. I don't think Manus needed to be nerfed, and I ESPECIALLY don't think archbishop needed to be nerfed. But I can take King of Puppets phase 1 HP nerf.
And making the amulets weigh less is nice.
OMG I CLAPPED WHEN I GOT ROLLED OVER BY A GIANT FIREBALL THATS SUCH A SOULSBORNE THING TO DO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD OF DARK SOULS
stuck-at-manus bros, we're going home
you didn't beat the game, you beat a nerfed version
What did Manus even mean with this? Did Sophia do something during the fight I didn't notice? Or does he just mean that we got some Sophia absorb powerup that allowed us to win?
I think it's implied Sophia keeps turning back time everytime you fail.
How do I prevent the update from installing on gamepass
Just heard that there was an update nerfing the game for journalists? How do I not install it on my xbox
go dsiconnect it from ethernet and wifi. pause the patch if it started downloading as soon as you turn your console on. you still might get it though
Manus isn't even hard, but his design is just so fricking bad that it pisses me off. How the frick did we go from a cool ass lightning goddess albino girl boss to a fricking hunchback zombie who spins around the arena on his back flailing his oversized mace? And why the frick does a moldy penis with an arm grow out of his back for phase 2? Who designed this shit unironically? HOW is that the last boss of this game
Nameless Puppet is the last boss, and Manus is unironically fricking cool. The phase 2 cutscene where his ergo body grows out of him and touches the hand of god is Kino
That Creation of Adam -moment in the Manus fight was kino as frick.
I beat the game. too bad my NG+ wont count
why does the same guy that sucks shit at action games keep buying them and making threads about it? I swear it the same one b***hing about armored core and ER. probably the niohgay
Frick you Black person I beat all these games but the stagger and damage patches were needed.
The health changes are moronic when they fixed the major problem of getting the big damage windows
you're definitely not the failed strength chad that kept claiming UGS were unusable and ended up going bleed katana right? that would be embarrassing. and if you were the guy that kept saying light cores were unusable even in PVE because you suck shit why, you may as well just go back to god of war or nioh or whatever dogshit action game you can beat without crutches. just kidding. no way this is all the same guy, unlikely such a creature would be anonymous user i'm responding to.
loud "ydbtg" guys are always mimic tear+rivers shitters, no exceptions
I don't know who the frick you are talking about you insane schizophrenic freak
The only time I ever played strength was DS2 in NG+
>beat the game on true patch
>never used summons once
>used heavy slow weapons
>got true ending
>hugged the cat
i beat the game
>violated the black rabbit brotherhood girl before the nerf patch
I beat the game
> the stchoopid puppet
Literally me. Motivity chads who stuck with slow weapons and learned boss movesets to land perfectly timed charged R2 strikes before the nerf beat the game
I didn't get to hug the cat, even on Rise of P ending. All I got was this...
It didn't rest on your shoulder and smooch you?
No. I just held that cat like that and shaked it.
in our hearts we know we beat the game and got rise of P ending despite the challenges
Just uninstalled the game because of this patch. I'm so fricking mad the devs did this. FRICK KOREA
If you’re on steam you can manually revert the patch i think
>Does Xbox game pass automatically update games?
>Xbox (PC Game Pass) app auto updates games, even with the Automatic Updates option turned off.
Well looks like I won't be able to to NG 3 with the game untouched, it's a shame. Congratulations to everyone who played before devs pandering to journos
Which version is the best? 1.0? When did they start nerfing bosses?
Today
can anyone confirm if you can get the Golden Lie weapon/Lie ending if the only thing I fricked up was after Victor fight answering "Monsters" instead of "Hope for a cure" to Simon. im on my NG+ run going to Laxasia next and my hair isnt gray yet
I'm pretty sure you don't have to lie every single time, just do enough human actions to reach a certain point.
I got Rise of P ending and I told the truth couple of times. I think I got the grey hair after releasing Sophia and I got the weapon post-game after listening to all of the records again
Yes, you are probably gonna get it with Atkinson if you lie for everything, so since you missed one prompt the next lie would be on the Hotel after finishing the chapter.
Oh yeah thanks, I did lie with the Atkinson quest, also prayed at the chapel etc.
I did the same thing and got it. I think it just depends on how many total humanity prompts you get from music/lying.
Do you keep gray hair in NG+? What about moonstone bell-bearings? Do NG+ enemy drop higher tier moonstones?
You can swap between hair-styles at the P-organ chair. You keep the weapon upgrade materials you got (I think? I'm not sure). And no new higher tier moonstones, I think there might be small adjustments that you get full moonstone and half-moonstones earlier.
You also get free P-organ respec once you start newgame+, so dont do the mistake I did and afk for an hour to get enough coins to respec. And the Mercy Statue teleport is also unlocked straight from the start.
>hugged the hecking kot
artificial difficulty: the game
It just got nerfed for trannies like you, check
or
"Artificial Difficulty" is a buzzword that doesn't mean anything.
Artificial Difficulty would be a move, trap, or scenario that a player wouldn't be able to avoid or deal with unless they've seen it before
Sounds like a good thing, if I knew how to deal with every obstacle the moment I see it that sounds boring.
Attacks/traps should have an element of reactivity where they can catch you off-guard, but you can deal with them with enough skill. I think of some situations in From games where an undodgeable explosion will just randomly go off next to an item with no tell and that is artificial difficulty to me
in the context of this game, there's definitely a few examples that would count, but you generally can recover if you haven't chugged all your estus away. puppet king, laxasia, and nameless puppet have attacks that you'll almost certainly get hit by, but you can potentially still be ok in the same run depending on resources and your learning ability. most bosses don't hit hard enough to drain your resources too much if you mess up timings, for me it was pretty easy to learn patterns because i intentionally blocked most non-red attacks, even as a dex build, and the noise feedback from the block let me learn the timing for most strings within 2-3 uses
yeah pretty much this. i think the only time i reasonably ever experienced a "souls tier" death in this game is when i forgot the guys that drop out of goop explode when they die, and knocked me off a cliff in abbey, but that is my fault as i should have remembered the goop guys explode on death.
ummm stuck-at-manus bros...how do we beat nameless puppet
nameless puppet has almost no health, you can just brute force the fight
>see this item? make sure to look at your surroundings for an ambush because there will be an ambush (there was an ambush)
isn't that literally every souls game since 2
Yes. It's so funny seeing From dickriders critique things in this game that have been Souls mainstays for like a decade lol. Really makes it clear how much they get away with just because of their reputation
> Fixed a typo of Carlo Collodi in the End Credits. (We sincerely apologize to Mr. Collodi and that was not a lie!)
cute
Is the green swamp monsters 2nd phase weak to lightning or fire? Since its carcass inside a puppet?
fire
I dont think it's weak to either but I could be wrong. I'm 99% sure it's not weak to fire
fire for p1, lightning for p2
>Still can't stop talking about From games
Man, this guys really bring out people inner infertiority complex huh
kek devs ripoff Fromsoft so much they're even nerfing their games like them now
Its kind of bizzare when From mostly balance their game because it has multiplayer, pvp shit but this is a single player game with no online requirement except Denuvo
FROM nerfs single player shit all the time, no fricking clue what you're talking about
>b-b-b-but my dady From
Maybe you should get From dick out of your ass since its look like you couldn't never stop orgamism about them
moron
I fricking hate this, i recently played elden ring again on 1.10 or whatever the frick theyre at now, and it was so fricking braindead easy. Hadnt played souls in a while so i was rusty and i was able to just brute force almost every boss spamming r1s, estus, and panic rolling.
I mean you could do that at launch Elden Ring until Radahn
Elden Ring had a very weird curve wear half of the game was extremely braindead even at launch
>37gb patch
wtf
What is your least favorite enemy in the game? I fricking DESPISE the acid/decay throwing mini-minibosses in the return to Krat station. I've never found a way to deal with them, since they just keep spamming that shit even in melee and you'll always get hit
I hate those bastards, the Jester puppet in the wine cellar has to be scariest bastard to go up against though. Fricker jumpscared me and then jumpscared me when he shows up again later in the game. The clown miniboss before the opera house is another piece of shit. I think I just hate clowns in general.
Clown miniboss hate is overblown imo, all of his attacks are actually really easy ti parry except the belly flop. Second time he came around in the swamp it was a breeze. I think he just needs a 10% health nerf the first time you fight him
He's ez after you learn his moves, but he kicked my ass like a dozen times when I first encountered him. Jester I never learned, just baited him into carcasses both times.
yeah the jester guys are scary as frick even if they didn't intentionally put them in dark areas to jumpscare you. their moveset is just terrifyingly effective too. fat clown isn't too bad, but jumping homosexual clown i think i hate the most
the baby puppets are so fricking annoying.
>oh you hate the baby puppets? well now they have a move where they zip line towards you at far range lol
frick them. and they're always in a group too
I found the female puppets who just keeps attacking and big decay dude with two fists most annoying
That headless female puppet has no business being so strong.
Two fists I feel like is just annoying because of where they put him. First time in the Malum District when you're surrounded by those decay throwing fat ladies, and again in the arcade after a decent chunk of enemies and you have to run through like 3 more elites to get to the shortcut. Makes him seem worse than he really is. His spinning fury attack is total bullshit tho, dont think I ever parried it on purpose
Some random enemies have just randomly insane dmg/hp. Like you said, those headless lady-puppets, some of the broken puppets in the swamp hit like a fricking truck too. The babies are way too tanky for how annoying they are
i love the exploding jesters/clowns. they are so fricking hot
It‘s a decent 7/10 game.
It leans too far into the ”look, another delayed attack you need to learn the timing for” meme, and doesn‘t really do anything original except for some minor things that don‘t matter in the bigger picture.
The perfect block system didn‘t give me the same ”back and forth“ feeling I got from Sekiro and didn‘t feel quite as satisfying.
The weapon selection is great, and the handle + blade system is one of the best aspects of the game, but sadly the movesets themselves are too small.
Still think it‘s worth a playthrough but nothing made me wanna go for a NG+ run.
Is there any other story changes in NG+ other than being able to read what puppets are saying?
If you get to NG+10 you get to kiss Sophia
I dont get the delayed attack complaint. Pure cope imo
Margit mindbroke millions
Where is my patch you korean fricks? I'm on gamepass and past King of Puppets on NG+, so I could take the patch to just see the new equipment limits with the boss amulets.
>twin dragon sword
This is definitely a dev favorite weapon. Holy shit that moveset is wild.
>He abused elemental weaknesses
>He used consumables
>He played on controller
>He used any boss weapons
>He looked up a guide
And most importantly of all:
>He used Puppet String
YOU
DIDN'T
BEAT
THE
GAME
Yeah i used puppet string for the final final boss and its silly how much easier it made the fight.
You gays were jerking off every other legion arm while i stuck with puppet string. Go frick yourself.
Does Hugo saying prove you're worthy for Alidoros gear mean anything? Can't find any info on this.
>letter of the eternal
>t. P.P
2 p's lmao
No Schlong DLC came out and it made me realize how fluid LoP combat is.
Did they fix the Aegis exploit?
>just beat manus before the patch dropped on xbox
i beat the game before going to sleep yesterday, woke up to do some things before learning they nerfed the bosses, by reading this thread. i even mentioned to a friend recently when we were talking about how bad balteus and sea spider in ac6 got nerfed, that i was playing lies of p, and i hope they don't do the same thing in this game
>overtuned
Picrel is much more applicable to a homosexual complaining that a game isnt hard enough so they dropped it lmao imagine how fat, stinky, and lonely you must be to actually have that opinion
>t. anon who beat the game before the patch
Complaining that a game is TOO HARD is literal subhuman behavior. Imagine playing monopoly with your friends and some little homosexual starts crying that it's unbalanced, unfair, and you need to buff how much money you get when you pass go. Literal toddler behavior.
I don’t even understand how anyone can even complain about a game being “too hard” in 2023. All modern games are literally built to be sold to as many people as possible so there’s no way it could actually be hard otherwise it would filter too many players and lose a ton of sales.
lies of p is an anomaly in a sea of piss easy, focus grouped, soulless wide net casting games. there's a real solid chance, at some point or another, something in the game is gonna kick your ass for a little while until you find a means to adapt.
elemental weapons/coatings are the big difference maker. you don't even have to spec into advance and you'll beat the frick out of a lot of stuff very quickly. most people run non elemental weapons and underutilize coatings
nah even normal attacks are way lower than mine, probaby because i used sawblade and then swapped to live puppet axe though haha
weird then, could just be people being overly passive. sawblade and puppet axe clean house if you can get a reasonable amount of hits in
nah i think everyone ive watched has used dexcuck weapons
I did too and I'll be having a good time again
Did the nerf kill the challenge in king of puppets fight? Hopefully not?
for me, the challenge was mostly in enduring through first phase to have enough heals left for second phase. i found it real easy to mess up and eat the double arm sweep for half your health, and that really adds up at that point in the game. as long as you don't get instagibbed by phase 2 waterfowl, i didn't even need to heal on phase 2 on my clear. just depends on how much hp they took off him
how come everybody i see streaming this does no damage? theyre usually doing half the damage i was at every stage i see them
You are cheating
Are you wathching nl?
Is he right? he says LoP surpassed it's inspirations.
Surpass this lol
>immediately measures how many shekels it produced instead of measuring the quality of the game
why are subhumans like this?
Not my fault when they bragged about this lel
yeah that was pretty cringe
using twitch viewers as a metric reeks of desperation
Get new material homosexual.
>new material
Like this?
>"new material"
>pulls out the same material
what did he mean by this?
My empire of shit...
>pulls out the same material
Nioh 2 is clearly better than lol of P, bros...
Nioh 2 is better than most of From games
Nioh 2 isn't a soulslike though
Its also better than Lies of P, and much more fun
You know he'd stop if you stopped replying right? How has the internet so thoroughly regressed since the "don't feed the trolls" days?
>comparing player count for one of the biggest games of all-time to much lower budget game that's also on game pass
What point are you even trying to make rajeet? I think all the shit seeping into your aquifers is turning you moronic
holy fricking mog
holy fricking samegay
ER is the worst From game
Yes, truly the From killer
>says it's better than Sekiro
>minutes later says he couldn't beat Sekiro
Do ytkeks really?
Nice, i was looking for this thread. I have a question for this game, currently I'm at vegnini works, fighting fuoco
When I spoke to gepetto he started dropping me a lot of info on areas, what i want to know is : are these coming in a linear way or can I already go explore somewhere else?
the game is very very linear
Thank you anons!
The game has very linear progression
There's only one non-linear side area that the game doesnt railroad you into, and its a very short one
I beat the game and dont even remember this, which area?
Hermit's Cave, it ends with the black cat outfit and a quartz
Ohhh yeah that was fun, i wasnt expecting it to be like a mini area
Hermit's Cave
Weight comparison before and after the patch
I have no idea what they were thinking with weight and armor as every armor piece was always just better and heavier
There was never a reason to not just increase it
>ugh like i cant even choose to go to a different area to do the same thing im doing but like its different? um, yikes, linear progression much?
>ugh like i cant even choose to go to a different area to do the same thing im doing but like its different? um, yikes, linear progression much?
That always made me laugh. The people complaining about linearity in sekiro or lies of P were always the biggest shitters, invoking exploration as an excuse to overlevel and cheese the game.
If you go from one area to the next without any choice then the game is linear.
Being linear isn't a negative connotation but a fact
DS1 and 2 give you a bunch of directions to go in the beginning while 3 is much more linear
>Being linear isn't a negative connotation but a fact
For a souls game it is. Stop pretending corridor level design isn't bad just because you're tired of open worlds.
I don't care how cool it is. I'm not playing a game that markets itself as "inspired by Pinocchio"
lolmaoWTF
Why?
This is what attracted me to the game lmao, I always find it cool when ppl do a radically different take on an old story like this and they did a really good job here. Dying to see their rendition of Oz
Same. I was ready to hate in the game back when I thought Pinocchio was just a girl that kinda looked like a boy.
filtered
Post your ideas for legion arms. I’m thinking we could have one that drains the enemy health and adds it to your health. Or one that involves spraying the enemy with thick white glue slowing them down for a bit. For a force push that pushes a group of enemies around away a couple of metres back. Maybe a canon that goes through multiple targets if they’re lined up. One that’s hypnosis wheel and lets you temporarily have an enemy join your side.I’m
>spraying the enemy with thick white glue
Would it look like a wiener?
I think an arm with like a rocket on the elbow that you can use as an extended dodge or gap closer would be useful. Could also have an upgrade that turns it into like a rocket punch that does stagger
I just want the default arm to be upgradeable. Make each upgrade bring it's moveset closer to a full weapon, while increasing the scaling.
So every other str chad started leveling tech in NG+ to use the scissors and nose, right?
>Find King of Puppets mecha really easy
>Readable, obviously distinct attacks, can parry most of them 90% of the time
>Only ever get him down to 50% every time I fight him
Weird feeling. Also what are you supposed to do in phase 2 when he does the 2 rapid hit swings? In DS3 when Gael had the cape secondary hits you just had to perfect directional dodge them, here it seems like i have to be hugging him, standing in a specific spot, and timing my parry perfect or else its totally random if ill block the second hit or not
KoP Mecha phase 2 specifically have those attacks to swat you away if you charge him. Hang back and wait until monkey swings to you or does his wide tornado attack and then retreat.
they listened to us bros, finally I can beat the game now
You guys are fricking late you moronic Black folk that's what this entire thread is about
Everything besides cutting their health was a good change
shitposting aside I think KoP and Simon were fine
Andreus felt a bit overtuned for the level you reach him at
the capacity change is good, also you have very little leeway so very often you're at 58% but any upgrade moves you to 60% slightly heavy
and all the amulets were 100% unusable with that weight, so yeah overall good changes
>tfw beat whole game while being slightly heavy
It's honestly not much of a debuff. Finally under 60% in ng+ and havent noticed a huge difference
I was slightly heavy until Laxasia, from there I noticed the stamina regen debuff was very noticeable and pumped a bit of capacity to be under 60%. Booster handle has pretty big stamina consumption too so that plays a part as well.
Was that not because you were shocked
I already felt it on black rabbit gank 2, even without being shocked stamina regen (with amulet) feels pretty slow when slightly heavy.
>the capacity change is good
Capacity was already the best stat, the problem is that it's never worth using lighter frames or compromising your weapon blade to save weight when you can just put 2 points into Capacity to get 5% more mitigation or 10% more damage. The weight balancing was a failure because it isn't encouraging different playstyles, it just ended up being a tax.
What they should have done is stopped 2nd weapon slots taking up any weight until the weapon is swapped in. It's fricking moronic that these games are still basically telling you to Hardswap if you want to use more than one weapon. In a single player game, in 2023.
Here's how you explicitly make a game for shitters:
>Make unreadable animations that everybody will get hit by because they don't indicate enemy timings
>Give the player enough HP and damage that they can just mash into them and win anyway
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i played up until i beat king of puppets using a compromised weight build to stay under 30%. it was nice, but holy frick did i not have the skill to make use of it, and you give up a LOT to stay in this range even with heavy capacity investment and a light weapon like rapier
sub 30% isn't worth it until NG+. By going to 60% you will be able to get significantly more mitigation AND damage because the game allows you to turn weight into a lot of both via boss rings, heavier blades and heavier frames. This is why Capacity was already a stupidly good stat.
yeah, was night and day when i was able to go all in on a 60% after all my capacity investments. losing the stamina regen made me sad but having all the other tools more than made up for it in ng. victor's amulet is so insane by itself, and i could still run the heaviest frames and other stuff on top of that. capacity is the god stat
you DID beat the game before it was casualized to hell, right?
>reset no longer done at statue and instead at gold tree
?????
Why
Removes an unnecessary load screen since you do every other upkeep thing at the hotel
Reset isn't upkeep lmao what the frick
It completely kills the thematic and story justification of respecing
yea it's pretty funny, especially because they even put the firekeeper in that place for convenience already
>He defeated the final boss (either one) and got an ending achievement
>He had fun
You beat the game 🙂
>puppet axe + exploding pickaxe handle +10
>r1 into r2 = 1700
>extreme modifaction amulet = 2100 with 5 fable slots
Pretty significant dmg boost.
Yeah, that amulet seems good if you have 5 fable-slots and you dont use fable arts.
oh wait they need to be charged? i never tested this just assumed it meant your total number of slots
I beat Lies of P before the nerf
What’s all this about a nerf?
they nerfed the 3 hardest bosses
if you didn't beat it yesterday you didn't beat the game
sorry anon
That’s fricking bullshit, wtf? I was taking my time and enjoying the game, why can’t they just add an easy mode for homosexuals?
Soulschuds found the game too hard, devs decide to nerf it so it's as easy as Fromsoft games like DS3, ER and BB.
post your pre-nerf clears when the game was actually good
>Chose the "real boy" ending on my first playthrough
Guess I will never beat the "final" final boss. It's over.
>less than 1%
what the frick goypassbros
Gamepass has like 50% clear rate on the achievement to unlock your first stargazer. A lot of people must have started the game, realized its a soulslike and quit.
I'd wager the avg IQ of Goy Pass subs is 5-10 points less than the US avg and just download whatever new game is on there to play for an hour before heading back to Starfield or Forza. Not surprised it's so low
>puppet Sophia's massive breasts
I guess P did have some good taste after all
>Venigni it is completely paramount that puppet Sophia's breasts are just as big as the real one's, the body will be rejected otherwise.
>Sure thing compagno
Venigni was a bro. Got his parents killed by a joker-puppet, but didn't grow up twisted and tried to make something out of it
Oh shit, Puppet Sophia does have nice breasts
>steam achievements
utterly worthless, they can be granted at the press of a button
https://github.com/gibbed/SteamAchievementManager
>utterly worthless, they can be granted at the press of a button
yea because clearly people were choosing that option based on the completion percentage
>4% on PS5
Sonybros were the real gamers all along..
beat the game by 12 hours. way too close
My fellow game beaters, is it ok to update the patch for NG+ or will the gamer covenant be broken with these casual actions?
>game auto-updated
FRICK
So.. Sophia is not really in the Hotel right, so nobody there can see her? I don't remember anyone ever mentioning her, which in hindsight is pretty obvious fight-club stuff.
keep playing the game
I have, I'm on NG+. I just thought that she had like a real "astral-projection" or something at the hotel, but I guess the whole image was always just in your head.
why do you think she only shows up next to a stargazer? the final area has so much ambient ergo in the air it lets her appear without being next to a stargazer
>Game genre is successful and popular because of the fact it is challenging
>"We need to make it easy or the genre will not survive"
>Game was in the top sellers despite being hard
I hate these people.
But there are already summons in the game that have like twice your HP and help you stagger the bosses in seconds, wtf did homosexual-kun mean by this
>I hate this gamne
>skill issue
>skill issue
>skill issue
>skill issue
>skill issue
>skill issue
Yes
First Soulsborne thread?
I’m actually so pissed off about this latch, what the frick? How can they just do this to me in the middle of my playthrough? Have these stupid hooks never heard of difficulty options?
stop whining about the patch, the dev literally said they were catering to casuals with the game, and they mistakenly overtuned it. This patch just moves the game closer to the devs intended vision
>we wanted to make it easier
>*creates some of the most unpredictable AI and animations*
What did they mean by this
Just add a fricking easy mode for shitters and hard mode for gangbangers. That’s what they’re for.
>easy mode
already in the game, summons make the game braindead easy
>Just add a fricking easy mode for shitters
they actually had an easymode already hardcoded into the game, there's a mod out there that lets you turn it on
It's called summons + puzzle box + throwables + perfect block grindstone.
What the frick is the puzzle box even supposed to be? I think I never used it, it was like the worse version of ER magick flask. The gems you put in should just automatically recover when you use stargazers...
Most of it is just to buff your summon.
>The gems you put in should just automatically recover when you use stargazers
it does, the gems are just consumables. If you have more in your storage it just pulls them out once you revive or rest. The cube system is primarily for specters, you can make them fricking demons with the right gems. If you're just using it for the hp regen invest in the cube use speed, makes it a lot more viable
They are consumables? I thought loading screen tip or something said that the gems recharge in storage, but maybe I just misread that.
>They are consumables?
ye, and they do technically "recharge" aka take spare gems out of your storage because you can only carry 1 at a time
That's not what recharging means
call it a translation error then, there's been enough grammatical mistakes in the game anyway I could see that being one of them
>"Game is meant for casual players to enjoy"
>Proceeds to make one of the hardest soulslikes in existence.
He was just doing a little trolling.
Casual? Without the patch, Lies of P is anything but casual.
>Makes multiple boss fights harder than almost any fromsoft game
???
>Makes multiple boss fights harder than almost any fromsoft game
you're delusional, no boss in Lies of P is anywhere near the level of difficulty as Melania or Owl
>Melania
kek
>Owl
You didnt learn how to play
I beat owl by running around the arena for 40 minutes because I didn't learn his move sets
Only took me 5 tries to beat Isshin
>learning move set
am I the only one who never bothers with that shit?
I go in and react to whatever the boss is doing without observing or thinking about it.
t. low iq moron that’s beaten all souls games and clones with relative ease
I genuinely just react to moves, but Lies of P and later souls games and Sekiro like to act super fast attacks or delay things for 8 years so it prevents me from reacting properly
I feel like a lot of the newer From games don't encourage learning boss movesets. They animate too weirdly, have option select combo extensions and the roll spam is too strong with i-frames.
I loved learning the movesets in Lies of P. Maybe its just because its a fresh series and I have no expectations, in From games you feel like you should be able to do this without learning shit since you've done it so many times...
the movesets in lies of p feel as if they're more deliberately designed TO be learned, while newer from games have a lot of single moves that they can route into depending on any number of variables.
i feel the same as you though, i loved learning how to deal with the boss movesets, and most of the bosses won't instantly slaughter you for getting them wrong so you even have the chance to play more of the fight if you wiener up their moves.
It’s not like the bosses have that many attack patterns anyways, all of them are fairly easy to learn and block
yeah. it all just works together to feel better, or at least more fresh, than fromsoft's stuff. the bosses were just consistently more fun for me because of that. simple, but well done, in my opinion
My Black person in christ this is probably the hardest Soulslike there is
>My Black person in christ this is probably the hardest Soulslike there is
Sekiro is far more difficult than LoP, and it's not particularly close
Well, you think Sekiro is a Soulslike so no wonder you think its harder, you dont even know what the frick are you playing
Are you me
Yeah I even forgot to reply to the earlier post
Just killed Nameless Puppet. Do I keep upgrade materials if I go to ng+?
yes
Ye, make sure you get all the items in the hotel before you go into ng+.
read homie, it literally tells you what does and doesn't carry over
>nerfs the bosses I had zero problem with, in fact they were too easy already
>doesn't touch bosses I think have genuine issues
O-ok
God damn it, I wanted to beat this game so I could make fun of souls babies but now I’ll never get the chance
you did not beat the game
>owl
>hard
>20% completion for a secret boss
Holy frick lmao
now that you homosexuals have shit and pissed your pants over the "nerf", do we actually have data on how much HP and stagger was decreased?
Even if it was -1%, doesn't matter you didn't beat the game.
I wonder... When was the last time people like you played a game for fun and not for elitism?
Literally right now, doing ng+. I like a challenge, I don't like the dev curtailing to homosexuals playing a genre they don't like.
>how much hp and stagger was decreased
Yeah, too much
Even 1 hp is too much
I feel bad for post-patch players, you've been robbed from a great experience. you'll never get the chance to play the game as it was intended.
you'll be playing a family friendly, dumbed down version of the game all because people that are used to overleveling content, getting help from coop, were faced with the fact that they were never a good player.
only Laxasia kill still worths something if you want an actual challenge. The rest is just a cakewalk now.
I literally two tried Laxasia and I'm a pretty avg souls player. She isn't that hard
Says a lot about the nerfs then
>running the rafters in the cathedral worst area so far
>get to the grand exhibition gallery
>rafters 2 electric boogaloo
Who thought this was good level design?
Miyazaki
just give it a few days and I'm sure they'll release a patch that nerfs fall damage or makes it so you teleport back to a ledge instead of falling to your death
Still better than anything in Bloodborne.
boy do i have some bad news for you if you think that's the end of the rafters, too
Rafters are fun. They are wide enough (and the camera doesn't frick you over, which I was surprised with) that you can just run and dodge there pretty easily. Every soulslike NEEDS to introduce levels and sections with friction, if you make a game that is always just "fun and breezy", you are missing something.
Whoah brilliant asiatic AI at work
How are you actually supposed to fight them anyways?
I just exploit their ai because I honestly don't know what you are supposed to do
you don’t fight him. Lure him back and run around him
I meant all of them in the entire game
The game keeps putting unique item drops on big avoidable enemies so there's no chance I'm leaving anything on the map alive. You can't design levels with the expectation that players will not try to kill things and then also have unique rewards for killing things with no indication of when you want them to kill things or run past them.
Throw electricity-bombs at him. Use the electricity arm (goes through shields too). Or just pull him back. Or just fight on the beam
For me it's Hellpoint. Now that's soulslop
>ending requires you to never lie
>can't enter the hotel unless you lie
>ending requires you to never lie
it doesn't, you just have to tell the truth more than you lie and keep Sophia alive against her wishes
I don't even agree with the nerfs but the homosexuals crying and pissing their pants about a video game being slightly easier make me want more. Let people skip the first healthbar after you beat it once as well and make throwables do even more damage as well.
I genuinely have grown to hate multiple phase boss fights
People love Sister Friede, but one of her three phases was pointless.
The second phase is impossible to die in and simply wasted your time while you are trying to learn stage 3.
I got annoyed by this fight and just shot her with arrows in stage 3 which is apparently something you can do.
Didn't even know you could kill a boss with a bow before as I thought it would take to long or they would avoid it
Friede's 3rd phase was pure kino only because it was completely unexpected. They even set you up like you won after beating phase 2
It's fricking garbage because I had to go through the waste of time called the second phase.
Stupid b***h is now a pin cushion filled with arrows
>he brags about beating the unoptimized beta version
>he hasn't beaten the intended perfect version yet
Looks like someone got filtered hard.
For me, having it on platinum, I still think about the game multiple times a day and I kinda want to play it again already.
9/10
cant beat nameles puppet, even respec to advance build to try decay him, second phase too hard. what do
Are you going for perfect parries? Remember you can just block instead and regain your HP.
Also he staggers easily, after he does the big slashing attack it's a good moment to fit in a weapon art. Try to find space for R2 attacks too. And get the slashing resistance fiber and put on the weakest converter since he has no elemental stuff, stack physical resistance.
Go for build that focuses mainly on building up stagger and learn to perfect guard his shit like you're fighting Glock Saint Isshin
Or you can Aegis shield glitch him like crazy
use electric, not acid. i found his moveset so insanely nutty in phase 2 that i had to beat him through pure dps. if you learn the timing for his red charge at the start of phase 2 it'll help A LOT with getting a strong opening. other than that, i was just hyper aggressive and blew him up in 2 staggers
throw shit at him. a bunch of electro cells bring him down to 50% already lol.
I never parried. sub 30% equip load and all dodge upgrades ftw
First form parry, second form don't parry at all and dodge either into him or to the right
Welp not buying this game , beat the game on game pass before the anti fun patch and I’m glad I got to experience Korean kino once again
Has anyone's gamepass-version got patched yet? I want my lighter amulets, I'm on NG+ and I want my good shit
Is the patch live yet or not? I want to beat the game before updating
goypass isn't patched yet if you still want to beat the game
I think its live on steam, but not on gamepass
>game auto-updated
b-bakana...
I’ve never played nioh. I hate the Asian aesthetic with a passion.
Should I still give it a try?
this game is aggressively belle-epoque, the only thing asian about this game is a weapon, one character, and some references, and they're all pretty much connected
I heard there are multiple combat stances or something live that. sounds complicated for a sOuLsLiKe
It's closer to an action game then a souls game.
High stance is slow and big damage, but has a shitty dodge
Mid stance is average, has a decent dodge, and good at blocking
Low stance is low damage, fast, and has the best dodge
You switch between them whenever and you also have a skill tree where you can equip new moves as well
Nioh? Or Lies of P? Nioh is still pretty fun, but if you hate the aesthetic/setting and you dislike the loot-explosions, you can kinda skip it. Lies of P is fun
If you only want to play one of them just play Nioh 2.
Nioh 1 might have some better levels, but 2 is better combat and design wise.
Some tips are that you don't just ignore omnyo and ninjustsu(magic/faith) as they give you buffs and other useful things
It's like Diablo in that you get a bunch of new gear and try to break the game and infusing and customizing weapons doesn't matter that much till the ng+ cycles
What's the lore of Walker of Illusions?
>NG+ gives you a 6th porgan phase
that would have been nice to know before it asked you if you want to respec
just wait until you hit NG++
NG++ gives you 7th phase which has the real good shit
Do you think someone will make a damage calculator or p-organ planner or no one will bother for pve game?
How's the NG+
Same old same old. Still liking it, but I havent seen anything change (other than the puppet speech being translated). For some reason, there is a hard cap for how much a levelup can cost, so you are getting shit-ton of levels.
Fun, but it sucks that enemies can still kill you in 2 hits.
Fun as hell now that you start with the proper dodge.
Chances for the patch to actually kill the sequel?
Zero
where would you rate this game difficulty wise in comparison to the fromsoft games
This game is really fricking my ass
Doesn’t really matter anymore. It used to be like Sekiro but good.
Its hard, but not too hard. Its hard to compare, I'd say its a bit above average compared to From?
just beat nameless puppet. his amulet seems op, worth it over his sword?
His sword is nothing special other than having an innate crit chance, the amulet will help you in NG+ by trivializing the decay gas, poison swamp and instant kill curse area.
I've been using his sword in NG+, its weird to have a real critical strike chance in soulslike
His sword is the most OP weapon in the game at the moment for pure DPS.
frick just beat nameless puppet and still missing a quartz, i thought id get one from him. is there a list online on where all quartz are. fricking salty
there's one that you can only get if you got the frozen feast (victor soul) weapon, it's a cryptic shit quest
are there only 5 of them? must be dropped from some field boss i forgot about
I think there are 6
I was missing one quartz myself, and it was in the church cryptic vessel. Its in the area where you drop down the brazier to burn the shit (the first brazier with the upwards moving platforms). There are now stairs down
There are six, you do have it though. Did you do that one? You just gotta go to Krat station and show the weapon to a dude.
If you aren't missing that one then you're missing another. Are you at the end boss?
it says im missing alidoros one, i read up on it and said i get when i kill him, i remember giving it to the asiatic blacksmith. wtf?
Did all the cryptic vessels?
The only balance patch that was needed was the parry window to be extended by 5-10ms
fricking bulshit that i missed out on a quartz over some bulshit with the asiatic. this is fricking stupid
So what. You dont get achievements for it and you'll get every group you want in NG+ anyway.
its fricking annoying to finish the game missing shit. everything i can get I should have it. does that mean i can only max ot p organ in ng++. ita bulshit