Not OP but it's a little janky, the story gets really fricking weird and I started to just kinda zone out halfway through. The gameplay, while frustrating at times and with some bullshit enemies, is fantastic. You can easily pour hours into it. The art style really shines and it feels like playing a digital painting, kinda similar vibe to Vanillaware games.
You can tell it's a passion project, it's well worth it though.
if you liked side scroller beat em up anime flash games it's that but turned to eleven. it's somewhat janky but oozes with passion. if it looks like it might be your thing go for it.
>heart designs all over the room >Kanon comments >the game very explicitly says "you shared a special night with Kuro here"
Yeah okay buddy.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>heart designs all over the room
Yeah, because it is love inn. Game hammers you on the head about how village is in deer need of children. >Kanon comments
All Karon says is that she got drunk, stripped naked and forced hero to motorboat her breasts, but that's about it. >the game very explicitly says "you shared a special night with Kuro here"
It doesn't,
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you shared a special night with Kuro here
It does man, i played it like 2 weeks ago. I don't know if it's connected to the fact you do the mouth to mouth or not, but i, of course, did it.
I think he did her several times during the game events already and the entire city is jealous of their couple when they live a bit together in a peaceful timeline.
>read her lore >it mentions her being in a relationship with the dragon god >confused as frick >reach endgame >her true form is a dragon
dodged a bullet right there, fapped to the picture witch instad
I'm playing on hard and no matter how many points I pour into attack it feels like it changes fricking nothing. Also my weapon is enhanced +22 and the attack stat is sitting around 15k.
great fricking game, i plan on doing a run on the highest difficulty in another year or two once I've forgotten enough about it for it to be somewhat fresh again
Wait isn't this a RPG maker game,what's with the switch getting these ancient PC games that were released decades ago in some cases like that one Moon game & Siren V?
I think I was almost done with the game but never finished after getting to postgame Elysium. Is there some magic cheese build I can do for the boss fight with a bunch of mechs?
Kuro, this game was god-tier but I fear I have no strength left to go for the dlc after 100%ing this, unless he coded it so you can start from it from your clear file
You button mash and use spells, that's the entire game. Demo is bad representation because it just throws you into the game without explaining mechanics. Unless demo in full game and actual demo are two different things.
I just wish Anulis was more present in the game. You spend a ton of time with Kuro including a super horny chapter 4 where it's implied she either smothered your face with her massive breasts or outright fricked you, Anulis should've gotten an entire chapter to herself too.
The dev is a japanese salaryman that started making the game because he wanted to play a PC game where he could mindlessly whack monsters after he came from work.
It's like this game fell out of a dimension where people still have a passion for making the games they want to make. I need to go back and 100% it, not something I'd normally do for any game.
Yes, that's exactly how it works and how i bought astlibra itself. I saw the steam page, saw the little images in the preview panel, looked at the reviews quickly and dive in.
Also lamenting this on one of the few games that have a playable DEMO which is almost half of the first chapter.
Stop being a moronic zoomer and grow an opinion of your own on things.
>actually for this specific game watching gameplay doesn't work despite being completely fine for other games
Massive red flag.
Yes, that's exactly how it works and how i bought astlibra itself. I saw the steam page, saw the little images in the preview panel, looked at the reviews quickly and dive in.
Also lamenting this on one of the few games that have a playable DEMO which is almost half of the first chapter.
Stop being a moronic zoomer and grow an opinion of your own on things.
>don't hesitate bro JUST BUY IT
Another massive red flag. Marketers at work here.
No this is how people appreciate gaming before you zoomers needed an e-celeb to follow like sheeps or considering watching a video "playing" a game.
There is a demo, you can easily pirate it if you are a deadbeat, no excuses to watch some idiot playing the game instead of doing yourself.
>this is how people appreciate gaming before you zoomers needed an e-celeb to follow
Zoom-zoom, we had gaming magazines telling us what to think before youtube.
No magazine ever told me what to think. For me a magazine was just the steam page, pictures and some info, nothing more.
7 months ago
Anonymous
How is a gameplay without commentary any different?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The fact a dude is playing the game for you ruining all the experience of trying something new? I don't know. Do you eat food after somebody chew it a part of it and told you it was good?
7 months ago
Anonymous
A food metaphor, not even a good one.
How is seeing a bit of gameplay anything like someone else playing it for you? What does that make seeing pictures of it or getting a recommendation from a friend?
Not telling you to watch a playthrough and say the game is great, but seeing how a game plays is the first step to determining if it's something you are interested in. What do you think gameplay trailers are? Spooks?
7 months ago
Anonymous
its the same thing in between playing factorio and watching someone else play factorio
you dont think, you dont play, youre not reacting or dodging, youre not feeling the inputs, youre not planning
The MC is going to Anulis.
WHAT'S THE DEEEEEEAL WITH THE DEMONS?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>WHAT'S THE DEEEEEEAL WITH THE DEMONS?
play the game to find out, but here's a hint population control
7 months ago
Anonymous
Of course it isn't, but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
>buy a game without even seeing its gameplay
No i have taste, i know what i like, i know how to take risk and decades of experience in gaming taught me how to see the value of something. I never see anything except some pics and a quick description of something, i bought hundreds of games and i had a bad experience on a 1:40 basis.
If you can't do this, you are a mindless consoomer and your decisional pattern is tied to other people opinion and acts, not your own.
[...] >seeing a bit of gameplay
It's not the issue, the game is 40-60 hours long. It's the mentality. You (relative) watched a video first, you didn't download the demo, you didn't pirated it. You hear of a game and the first thing you do is popping youtube.
It's a shit mentality. If you are interested in something you TRY it. If a book catch your attention you read it, you don't look for reviews or commentary. It's called taking a risk, it's called having the first experience in something by yourself. It's what you should do in every aspect of your life (unless clearly dangerous).
homie please, I read shitty webnovels as a hobby, reviews are 80% in the right when it comes to anything negative if you can parse them. It takes a bit of a discerning eye and experience to judge how fatal the mentioned flaws are, how worthwhile the review is based on grammar/style/other liked novels of the reviewer are and things like that, but you do get forewarned. And you aren't supposed to read the reviews like they are a gospel, you read it for the bombastic things that caught the people's attention, something the tags are for and you check the reviews to see what isn't tagged or what is falsely tagged.
To give an example, something that is marketed as a 'crafting novel', mainly 'alchemy', but you see a review bashing the novel because alchemy doesn't account for even 1% of the novel, used once and that's it. But it's tagged and marketed as an alchemy novel, other recommend it when you ask for alchemy novels, you would have wasted your time if that is what you came for.
The same shit with games, you open a random gameplay video, see a bit of how the game plays, if you are not turned away due to not liking the genre,grind or something else you give it a shot.
I'm not telling you to base everything around it, it's just a way of getting a bit more info to avoid pitfalls.
So when the novel changes genre 300 chapters in, or a game's main gameplay loop is mindless grind(Tales of Immortal), you stay clear of that shit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that
why the frick are you arguing and writing walls of text in this thread then
7 months ago
Anonymous
>but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
Except it will.
Many games are boring to watch but fun to play when you're the one doing it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I have never encountered a single example of that. If the gameplay is fun it's gonna look fun as well. The only thing that may not translate to video properly is how janky the controls are but usually you can tell by the animations.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Any strategy game is way more fun to play than watch.
7 months ago
Anonymous
thats weird because the controls worked flawlessly for me
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not talking about this game specifically but in general, this controls well enough for me too.
Any strategy game is way more fun to play than watch.
That's a given but what I mean is you can tell if a strategy game is gonna be fun for you to play just by watching someone play it. As soon as you understand what the gameplay is like you can understand if it appeals to you. It's like hearing a crossfade of a music album, when you know your own tastes just skimming through a few songs can be enough to download a discography.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Of course it isn't, but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
Disagree. I thought the game looked mediocre. Downloaded the demo. It actually starts kinda slow, but quickly picks up pace. The combat is really fun. The OST is amazing (Enter Velocity playing during your first fight against a couple slimes is so hype and over the top). The story is surprisingly good actually, even though it only really gets going in chapter 4, with chapter 5 having one of my favorite stories and character moments in any game. By the end it became one of my favorite games of all time. And it's all made by one guy who learned to program just to make a game he'd enjoy playing. Distilled sovl.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>A food metaphor, not even a good one.
NTA but if you dislike that, if you had money to waste and you want to buy a car do you test drive yourself or you look a gopro video of someone driving the car?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>NTA
Stop typing like a homosexual.
You check the reviews of others who drive that model to see if it has parts that regularly break, how much it guzzles, etc.
Then you consider if it's something that is in line with what you want. Assuming the car is in perfect condition, for the sake of argument, THEN you take it for a test drive.
Gopro on someone driving is really not an apt comparison, unless every gopro video you see has the car shaking like crazy at +80km/h. You go and watch a gameplay video to see if it's something you don't like, it's how you avoid unnecessary time waste.
>Of course it isn't, but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
Disagree. I thought the game looked mediocre. Downloaded the demo. It actually starts kinda slow, but quickly picks up pace. The combat is really fun. The OST is amazing (Enter Velocity playing during your first fight against a couple slimes is so hype and over the top). The story is surprisingly good actually, even though it only really gets going in chapter 4, with chapter 5 having one of my favorite stories and character moments in any game. By the end it became one of my favorite games of all time. And it's all made by one guy who learned to program just to make a game he'd enjoy playing. Distilled sovl.
Not even talking about this game, just arguing in general. And bumping your thread.
>but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
Except it will.
Many games are boring to watch but fun to play when you're the one doing it.
Never happened to me. The reverse is sadly common.
>but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that
why the frick are you arguing and writing walls of text in this thread then
Having fun.
7 months ago
Anonymous
7 months ago
Anonymous
Black person do enlighten me where I went moronic.
7 months ago
Anonymous
What kind of magazines were you reading that didn't have articles describing and reviewing the game?
The fact a dude is playing the game for you ruining all the experience of trying something new? I don't know. Do you eat food after somebody chew it a part of it and told you it was good?
If you buy a game without even seeing its gameplay you're a mindless consoomer.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>buy a game without even seeing its gameplay
No i have taste, i know what i like, i know how to take risk and decades of experience in gaming taught me how to see the value of something. I never see anything except some pics and a quick description of something, i bought hundreds of games and i had a bad experience on a 1:40 basis.
If you can't do this, you are a mindless consoomer and your decisional pattern is tied to other people opinion and acts, not your own.
A food metaphor, not even a good one.
How is seeing a bit of gameplay anything like someone else playing it for you? What does that make seeing pictures of it or getting a recommendation from a friend?
Not telling you to watch a playthrough and say the game is great, but seeing how a game plays is the first step to determining if it's something you are interested in. What do you think gameplay trailers are? Spooks?
>seeing a bit of gameplay
It's not the issue, the game is 40-60 hours long. It's the mentality. You (relative) watched a video first, you didn't download the demo, you didn't pirated it. You hear of a game and the first thing you do is popping youtube.
It's a shit mentality. If you are interested in something you TRY it. If a book catch your attention you read it, you don't look for reviews or commentary. It's called taking a risk, it's called having the first experience in something by yourself. It's what you should do in every aspect of your life (unless clearly dangerous).
7 months ago
Anonymous
Seems like you have zero experience in gaming if bullshots and dev lies is all it takes for you to take a "risk". But you're not the one taking it, you're telling others to be ignorant about the game here. Nobody would do that in good faith without having anything to gain from it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
nta but i found out about the game because a youtube comment said it had S.S.H music in it
i never saw anything other than what was on the steam page, i bought it because i love S.S.H and the game turned out amazing
playing shit completely blind makes the experience much more fun, its a gamble sure but you can always refund, im not poor or anything so the risk is worth it
7 months ago
Anonymous
SSH still does music? the last I saw he hadn't made or updated anything in like over a decade, and the website he used to use I think is gone now?
7 months ago
Anonymous
hes made multiple albums since last decade, his last track was some months ago
since last year hes been fighting depression though
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7 months ago
Anonymous
none of his sites or social medias ever works or has any updates, his albums and tracks are scattered all over the place, why is he so fricking tech illiterate?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you're telling others to be ignorant about the game here
No i am talling people to PLAY the fricking game and not WATCH a video over it. A game that is easily found on a torrent, a game that has a FRICKING DEMO (which is an hail mary today) so basically you have the game for free whenever you want.
This stated, why the frick you need to watch a video of a gameplay YOU can do it without any problem?
I can understand watching a video of a game which is unfindable, it has no demo, it has denuvo and its expensive and you are in short of cash, or it requires hours of thinkering or it has proofed problems.
But this game? No, i can't fricking accept somebody who watches a video first, you have all the instruments to develop your own judgement and STILL you rely on the work of others.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The case here is the game doesn't even look like it's worth a pirate. Someone asks if you're trying to trick him into playing shit and you immediately try to deflect with some weird dismissive handwave like "uhh yes it looks like shit but have you tried EATING IT huh?" Other replies also try to sidestep this into boasting about buying the game blind. Very weird considering Ganker always preaches awareness and making informed decisions.
And thank frick you no longer need to do that considering that games are getting massive in size.
If I just had to go off promotion pics and other people telling me how a game 'plays' I would have downloaded a shitload of crap. I still do, but at least the amount of absolute crap is reduced.
For an example of why a quick google of gameplay is worth it, I didn't do it for Tales of Immortal. It's shit. If I just spent 5 minutes actually seeing the game I would have never downloaded it. So yes just watching a bit of gameplay is enough to tell you if you dislike a game.
>the game literally goes full TTGL and one of the last fights is on a planet's orbit
Why fun-loving devs like this are such a rarity?
The entire game is just a non-stop stream of unapologetic over the top hilarity.
It really is. Start as a weakling with a stick in a typical medieval fantasy setting, and then it's only snowballing from there with all the crazy shit.
thank you shiposterkun for bumping the thread further and bringing more attention to this game
yes the game is fricking good, it took me exactly 60 hours to 100% everything and i still wanted more, the story was pure kino and killing shit feels great, youll clear entire areas just for the pure fun of it
I started my first run on Hell and it really adds to the experience. It would eb a completely different game on normal as you would just be smashing through everything.
Hell should be like the minimum difficulty unless you're a filthy casual.
Stop promoting this great game with your coomer shit.
The gameplay is fun and then they drop and entire new mechanic in post game.
Also the scales mechanic to get bonuses is pretty unique.
I know, but you shouldn't use it to promote the game because the game has other stuff going for it, besides the horny.
That way you're just playing into shitposter hands or morons who will instantly dismiss it because "huur duur no talk about gameplay just fan service posting"
>That way you're just playing into shitposter hands or morons who will instantly dismiss it because "huur duur no talk about gameplay just fan service posting"
Neither of these people matter, game sold, we enjoyed it. That's all that matter, I don't care if some homosexual from Ganker doesn't enjoy the same videogames as I do. I understand the fear of getting our own Barry, but I highly doubt it will ever happen.
>Stop promoting this great game with your coomer shit.
The game literally has giant big titty "underage" girl as one of the bosses and a lot of dialog with female characters comes down to discussing their tit sizes. This game is horny as frick and it adds to the fun factor of how dumb it is when you help baker girl during city siege and hero comments that two huge knockers stick out from behind the tree.
Chapter 6 was just bad game design the chapter. That 200 weight snowstorm with 2 fricking yetis right afterwards was stupid. Gotta spend 3 mins in the menu to unequip all your shit and go back to your normal build. Elysium was really annoying too with stupid puzzles, pits, and healing buttholes
>"save" aniluis >time to fight all the gods I guess >go to elysium >as per usual all the enemies are pretty tame except one that is ridiculously overtuned and fricks you in the ass hard >get to boss, no save point or anything before her >she kicks my ass and has a billion hp
not eager to save the time goddess
Sell me OP.
The game is so good that the platinum for it now has a permanent place on my profile. It's among my favorite games.
Not OP but it's a little janky, the story gets really fricking weird and I started to just kinda zone out halfway through. The gameplay, while frustrating at times and with some bullshit enemies, is fantastic. You can easily pour hours into it. The art style really shines and it feels like playing a digital painting, kinda similar vibe to Vanillaware games.
You can tell it's a passion project, it's well worth it though.
if you liked side scroller beat em up anime flash games it's that but turned to eleven. it's somewhat janky but oozes with passion. if it looks like it might be your thing go for it.
Sloplibra: Refunded
It's interesting that at a glace you can tell it's a custom engine.
He's a bump on me, OP. People should get to know this game.
It's on my radar, but a faint blip overall, so what sets it apart from other games?
being a work of love and autism
Passion project by one guy. Combat is really fun and this is just my opinion but I love the 00s aesthetics it has.
Same, going through the entire game again kind of killed my motivation despite putting in this time in less than a week.
Shit I never finished the post game and it's been too long now for me to bother relearning how to play.
Is it Cave Story "near 10" or Ocarina "near 10"
You can tell this was written in 2008.
So it's a H game?
No, just sexualized
_No
That shit wasn't in the game when I played.
Gotta be a shop or a mod.
Did you talk to her again before accepting her deal? It's entirely missable dialogue
So can you bang the big lady?
main guy is completely loyal to his waif
Ruined
>complexly loyal
He and Kuro fricked in the inn. Yes Anulis is his girl but it's not like his dick is broken.
Pure headcannon
>heart designs all over the room
>Kanon comments
>the game very explicitly says "you shared a special night with Kuro here"
Yeah okay buddy.
>heart designs all over the room
Yeah, because it is love inn. Game hammers you on the head about how village is in deer need of children.
>Kanon comments
All Karon says is that she got drunk, stripped naked and forced hero to motorboat her breasts, but that's about it.
>the game very explicitly says "you shared a special night with Kuro here"
It doesn't,
>you shared a special night with Kuro here
It does man, i played it like 2 weeks ago. I don't know if it's connected to the fact you do the mouth to mouth or not, but i, of course, did it.
She's a God, and actually a Dragon. No you can't. She also Dies?.
The MC is going to Anulis.
I think he did her several times during the game events already and the entire city is jealous of their couple when they live a bit together in a peaceful timeline.
>read her lore
>it mentions her being in a relationship with the dragon god
>confused as frick
>reach endgame
>her true form is a dragon
dodged a bullet right there, fapped to the picture witch instad
WHERE ARE YOU GOEN
The soundtrack in this game is one of the best in all of video games
100% the game a few months ago, excellent game and all the post game content was kino.
This is one of the few games I fondly look back on, just pure kino and fun throughout.
Don't know which anon first made a thread about it last year but just know that I thank you for showing the game to me.
Whoever made this played Symphony of the Night on repeat.
>Switch version FINALLY got a release date
Let's go.
I'm on postscript and I'm at the demon kings castle where I have fight a group of people who keep insta healing how the frick do I beat this?
You should be strong enough to just rape those losers to death by now anon... Unless you're playing on very hard or some shit
I'm playing on hard and no matter how many points I pour into attack it feels like it changes fricking nothing. Also my weapon is enhanced +22 and the attack stat is sitting around 15k.
I wish I could but she keeps healing.
Once you break her you should be able to burst her down with possession skills
If that fails, throw Berserk on until she dies
kill the healer
Is that the retranslation or is it another part? I don't remember that one
Just a different part, I have both scenes screenshotted from my playthrough.
>they changed it from soles to feet in the retranslation
Ruined. Literally fricking unplayable.
There's a DLC coming soon right? I'll wait for that before playing.
great fricking game, i plan on doing a run on the highest difficulty in another year or two once I've forgotten enough about it for it to be somewhat fresh again
Wait isn't this a RPG maker game,what's with the switch getting these ancient PC games that were released decades ago in some cases like that one Moon game & Siren V?
RAIN
There’s not enough Anulis. Give me Anulis. I’m going to Anulis. Where is Anulis? You’re hiding Anulis too, aren’t you?
ranker best girl
I think I was almost done with the game but never finished after getting to postgame Elysium. Is there some magic cheese build I can do for the boss fight with a bunch of mechs?
>enter demon castle
>JIIIIIBUUUUUUUN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
literally fricking perfect
Watching videos of this game reminds me of Fate/Stay Night.
Who is best girl tho? For me it's kuro
I like the midget, personally
Kuro, this game was god-tier but I fear I have no strength left to go for the dlc after 100%ing this, unless he coded it so you can start from it from your clear file
I believe he's working on Bakery Girl, which is basically a sidestory to the main game, so you'll most likely be starting from zero.
Also really liked the easter egg where you meet her.
its a jank jap game where you do 9999999999 hit combos on enemies that have 999999999999999999999999 hp
i dont know how anyone can stomach this shit. it looks cool to me but i cant stand the hp grinding gameplay
How far am I in the game? Just got to anubis lab in chapter 8. Is this the final dungeon?
like 60%
Nice, you're almost done with the tutorial
Final chapter of the base game, postscript is anotger 10 to 15 hours IIRC
bu
How hard was the All Star fight in the arena?
Pretty easy once you kill Plada first and stay out of the Mage's field of vision. Every other great hero is a jobber and Anulis' magics are slow
stone golem my beloved
>that terrible MTL translation
>the ridiculous grindan amounts to unlock everything
>the very out of place random fanservice moments
Pure, unfiltered SOUL and a relic of a better time.
Is the demo a good representation of the game? I played the demo, it felt button mashy.
You button mash and use spells, that's the entire game. Demo is bad representation because it just throws you into the game without explaining mechanics. Unless demo in full game and actual demo are two different things.
Anulis (Lilica fused) > Kuro > Shiro (shortstack) > Anulis > Lilica > Shiro (earrings) > Lisa > Plada > Meloo > Ranker
I don't see baker's daughter on that list, anon.
Too bad she was just a one of joke and never got expanded on.
I just wish Anulis was more present in the game. You spend a ton of time with Kuro including a super horny chapter 4 where it's implied she either smothered your face with her massive breasts or outright fricked you, Anulis should've gotten an entire chapter to herself too.
dragon's crown guy should pick more single man projects to help in, this game would be a downgrade without the art
Karon best bro
GREAT LEADER XI POOH PING PROCLAIMED THIS GREATEST GAME OF THE PEOPLE REPUBLIC OF CHINA! BUY NOW, COMRADE!
yikes
That's a 2bi people country and japs don't really use steam
>yikes
woman or woman adjacent language
Anon the dev is Japanese, Steam is just flooded with chinks. It's highly rated across all languages.
>Steam is just flooded with chinks
More like the whole planet is. They're like a virus. Still better than fricking poos, both of them need cleansing.
The dev is a japanese salaryman that started making the game because he wanted to play a PC game where he could mindlessly whack monsters after he came from work.
i'm surprised the chinks of all groups bought the shit out of this game. did some chink e-celeb shill the game to them?
It's an exceptional good game, if you are a fan of the genre you just must play it.
Also kuro best everything.
It's like this game fell out of a dimension where people still have a passion for making the games they want to make. I need to go back and 100% it, not something I'd normally do for any game.
I don't know anything about this game so I skimmed through this
i'm not seeing the appeal here. Are you guys trying to trick me again?
Play games instead of watching videos jesus christ.
>just buy and play the game without knowing anything about it
alright, dumbo
Play the demo, pirate it, are you moronic or just another zoomer?
Nothing wrong with opening some random gameplay without and seeing if you dislike it at glance.
Yes, that's exactly how it works and how i bought astlibra itself. I saw the steam page, saw the little images in the preview panel, looked at the reviews quickly and dive in.
Also lamenting this on one of the few games that have a playable DEMO which is almost half of the first chapter.
Stop being a moronic zoomer and grow an opinion of your own on things.
>actually for this specific game watching gameplay doesn't work despite being completely fine for other games
Massive red flag.
>don't hesitate bro JUST BUY IT
Another massive red flag. Marketers at work here.
No this is how people appreciate gaming before you zoomers needed an e-celeb to follow like sheeps or considering watching a video "playing" a game.
There is a demo, you can easily pirate it if you are a deadbeat, no excuses to watch some idiot playing the game instead of doing yourself.
>this is how people appreciate gaming before you zoomers needed an e-celeb to follow
Zoom-zoom, we had gaming magazines telling us what to think before youtube.
No magazine ever told me what to think. For me a magazine was just the steam page, pictures and some info, nothing more.
How is a gameplay without commentary any different?
The fact a dude is playing the game for you ruining all the experience of trying something new? I don't know. Do you eat food after somebody chew it a part of it and told you it was good?
A food metaphor, not even a good one.
How is seeing a bit of gameplay anything like someone else playing it for you? What does that make seeing pictures of it or getting a recommendation from a friend?
Not telling you to watch a playthrough and say the game is great, but seeing how a game plays is the first step to determining if it's something you are interested in. What do you think gameplay trailers are? Spooks?
its the same thing in between playing factorio and watching someone else play factorio
you dont think, you dont play, youre not reacting or dodging, youre not feeling the inputs, youre not planning
WHAT'S THE DEEEEEEAL WITH THE DEMONS?
>WHAT'S THE DEEEEEEAL WITH THE DEMONS?
play the game to find out, but here's a hint
population control
Of course it isn't, but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
homie please, I read shitty webnovels as a hobby, reviews are 80% in the right when it comes to anything negative if you can parse them. It takes a bit of a discerning eye and experience to judge how fatal the mentioned flaws are, how worthwhile the review is based on grammar/style/other liked novels of the reviewer are and things like that, but you do get forewarned. And you aren't supposed to read the reviews like they are a gospel, you read it for the bombastic things that caught the people's attention, something the tags are for and you check the reviews to see what isn't tagged or what is falsely tagged.
To give an example, something that is marketed as a 'crafting novel', mainly 'alchemy', but you see a review bashing the novel because alchemy doesn't account for even 1% of the novel, used once and that's it. But it's tagged and marketed as an alchemy novel, other recommend it when you ask for alchemy novels, you would have wasted your time if that is what you came for.
The same shit with games, you open a random gameplay video, see a bit of how the game plays, if you are not turned away due to not liking the genre,grind or something else you give it a shot.
I'm not telling you to base everything around it, it's just a way of getting a bit more info to avoid pitfalls.
So when the novel changes genre 300 chapters in, or a game's main gameplay loop is mindless grind(Tales of Immortal), you stay clear of that shit.
>but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that
why the frick are you arguing and writing walls of text in this thread then
>but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
Except it will.
Many games are boring to watch but fun to play when you're the one doing it.
I have never encountered a single example of that. If the gameplay is fun it's gonna look fun as well. The only thing that may not translate to video properly is how janky the controls are but usually you can tell by the animations.
Any strategy game is way more fun to play than watch.
thats weird because the controls worked flawlessly for me
Not talking about this game specifically but in general, this controls well enough for me too.
That's a given but what I mean is you can tell if a strategy game is gonna be fun for you to play just by watching someone play it. As soon as you understand what the gameplay is like you can understand if it appeals to you. It's like hearing a crossfade of a music album, when you know your own tastes just skimming through a few songs can be enough to download a discography.
>Of course it isn't, but if seeing it being played doesn't interest you, playing it will hardly change that.
Disagree. I thought the game looked mediocre. Downloaded the demo. It actually starts kinda slow, but quickly picks up pace. The combat is really fun. The OST is amazing (Enter Velocity playing during your first fight against a couple slimes is so hype and over the top). The story is surprisingly good actually, even though it only really gets going in chapter 4, with chapter 5 having one of my favorite stories and character moments in any game. By the end it became one of my favorite games of all time. And it's all made by one guy who learned to program just to make a game he'd enjoy playing. Distilled sovl.
>A food metaphor, not even a good one.
NTA but if you dislike that, if you had money to waste and you want to buy a car do you test drive yourself or you look a gopro video of someone driving the car?
>NTA
Stop typing like a homosexual.
You check the reviews of others who drive that model to see if it has parts that regularly break, how much it guzzles, etc.
Then you consider if it's something that is in line with what you want. Assuming the car is in perfect condition, for the sake of argument, THEN you take it for a test drive.
Gopro on someone driving is really not an apt comparison, unless every gopro video you see has the car shaking like crazy at +80km/h. You go and watch a gameplay video to see if it's something you don't like, it's how you avoid unnecessary time waste.
Not even talking about this game, just arguing in general. And bumping your thread.
Never happened to me. The reverse is sadly common.
Having fun.
Black person do enlighten me where I went moronic.
What kind of magazines were you reading that didn't have articles describing and reviewing the game?
If you buy a game without even seeing its gameplay you're a mindless consoomer.
>buy a game without even seeing its gameplay
No i have taste, i know what i like, i know how to take risk and decades of experience in gaming taught me how to see the value of something. I never see anything except some pics and a quick description of something, i bought hundreds of games and i had a bad experience on a 1:40 basis.
If you can't do this, you are a mindless consoomer and your decisional pattern is tied to other people opinion and acts, not your own.
>seeing a bit of gameplay
It's not the issue, the game is 40-60 hours long. It's the mentality. You (relative) watched a video first, you didn't download the demo, you didn't pirated it. You hear of a game and the first thing you do is popping youtube.
It's a shit mentality. If you are interested in something you TRY it. If a book catch your attention you read it, you don't look for reviews or commentary. It's called taking a risk, it's called having the first experience in something by yourself. It's what you should do in every aspect of your life (unless clearly dangerous).
Seems like you have zero experience in gaming if bullshots and dev lies is all it takes for you to take a "risk". But you're not the one taking it, you're telling others to be ignorant about the game here. Nobody would do that in good faith without having anything to gain from it.
nta but i found out about the game because a youtube comment said it had S.S.H music in it
i never saw anything other than what was on the steam page, i bought it because i love S.S.H and the game turned out amazing
playing shit completely blind makes the experience much more fun, its a gamble sure but you can always refund, im not poor or anything so the risk is worth it
SSH still does music? the last I saw he hadn't made or updated anything in like over a decade, and the website he used to use I think is gone now?
hes made multiple albums since last decade, his last track was some months ago
since last year hes been fighting depression though
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none of his sites or social medias ever works or has any updates, his albums and tracks are scattered all over the place, why is he so fricking tech illiterate?
>you're telling others to be ignorant about the game here
No i am talling people to PLAY the fricking game and not WATCH a video over it. A game that is easily found on a torrent, a game that has a FRICKING DEMO (which is an hail mary today) so basically you have the game for free whenever you want.
This stated, why the frick you need to watch a video of a gameplay YOU can do it without any problem?
I can understand watching a video of a game which is unfindable, it has no demo, it has denuvo and its expensive and you are in short of cash, or it requires hours of thinkering or it has proofed problems.
But this game? No, i can't fricking accept somebody who watches a video first, you have all the instruments to develop your own judgement and STILL you rely on the work of others.
The case here is the game doesn't even look like it's worth a pirate. Someone asks if you're trying to trick him into playing shit and you immediately try to deflect with some weird dismissive handwave like "uhh yes it looks like shit but have you tried EATING IT huh?" Other replies also try to sidestep this into boasting about buying the game blind. Very weird considering Ganker always preaches awareness and making informed decisions.
And thank frick you no longer need to do that considering that games are getting massive in size.
If I just had to go off promotion pics and other people telling me how a game 'plays' I would have downloaded a shitload of crap. I still do, but at least the amount of absolute crap is reduced.
For an example of why a quick google of gameplay is worth it, I didn't do it for Tales of Immortal. It's shit. If I just spent 5 minutes actually seeing the game I would have never downloaded it. So yes just watching a bit of gameplay is enough to tell you if you dislike a game.
Much better when you're actually playing yourself
Ganker doesnt play videogames
Combat looks stiff to me.
>the game literally goes full TTGL and one of the last fights is on a planet's orbit
Why fun-loving devs like this are such a rarity?
The entire game is just a non-stop stream of unapologetic over the top hilarity.
It really is. Start as a weakling with a stick in a typical medieval fantasy setting, and then it's only snowballing from there with all the crazy shit.
>Start as a weakling with a stick
The man walked for 8 straight years, he was hardly a weakling from the very start.
Well yeah, lore-wise there's that. It's still the usual slime fighting start and all that gameplay-wise.
Exp that stick is gonna be useful later.
>chapter 8 starts
>that fricking music and atmosphere
You know shit gets real when the game with royalty free music whips out the vocaloids.
thank you shiposterkun for bumping the thread further and bringing more attention to this game
yes the game is fricking good, it took me exactly 60 hours to 100% everything and i still wanted more, the story was pure kino and killing shit feels great, youll clear entire areas just for the pure fun of it
The dev really captured the pure fun of destroying enemies earlier Ys games had. It has a very distinct Napishtim era Ys engine flavour to it.
A lot of the bosses are big titted anime girls
For me, it is Lava Belt.
>by the endgame you can learn to summon the very gods you've defeated
the black dragon alt is the best one.
Replaying this on Impossible and it's just as fun if not more fun as the first time around. I think the balance was really well done.
Do you get oneshotted?
My biggest gripe with post-hard difficulties is that it turns off the time stop during casting manipulations
Game becomes bullshit and it wants you to outbullshit it. I think it is perfectly fine way to balance the game.
Correction, hell difficulty, not impossible. Still can take a reasonable number of hits with proper spec'ing and equipment management.
I started my first run on Hell and it really adds to the experience. It would eb a completely different game on normal as you would just be smashing through everything.
Hell should be like the minimum difficulty unless you're a filthy casual.
Stop promoting this great game with your coomer shit.
The gameplay is fun and then they drop and entire new mechanic in post game.
Also the scales mechanic to get bonuses is pretty unique.
>your coomer shit.
Astlibra is horny as all frick anon kun. And it should be since it's about a bunch of young people.
I know, but you shouldn't use it to promote the game because the game has other stuff going for it, besides the horny.
That way you're just playing into shitposter hands or morons who will instantly dismiss it because "huur duur no talk about gameplay just fan service posting"
>That way you're just playing into shitposter hands or morons who will instantly dismiss it because "huur duur no talk about gameplay just fan service posting"
Neither of these people matter, game sold, we enjoyed it. That's all that matter, I don't care if some homosexual from Ganker doesn't enjoy the same videogames as I do. I understand the fear of getting our own Barry, but I highly doubt it will ever happen.
>Stop promoting this great game with your coomer shit.
The game literally has giant big titty "underage" girl as one of the bosses and a lot of dialog with female characters comes down to discussing their tit sizes. This game is horny as frick and it adds to the fun factor of how dumb it is when you help baker girl during city siege and hero comments that two huge knockers stick out from behind the tree.
>the crow is revealdes to be just a random demon transformed by anulis
A little underwhelming of a reveal 2bh
>random
nah it's the singular frickhuge demon you've been searching for for the last 8+ years, kind of important.
>zoomer too moronic to pirate and check out the game with 0 risk
How can you be this tech illiterate after growing up with tech?
Chapter 6 was just bad game design the chapter. That 200 weight snowstorm with 2 fricking yetis right afterwards was stupid. Gotta spend 3 mins in the menu to unequip all your shit and go back to your normal build. Elysium was really annoying too with stupid puzzles, pits, and healing buttholes
Kino of the highest order worthy of Kojima.
or you could've just equipped the super heavy stone shield and that's it
all that shit was fine honestly
the worst part is when you have to run through a ton of maps and fight a boss with no magic
>worst part
it was honestly the best part, it made me miss kuro not only as a character but as a game mechanic
>"save" aniluis
>time to fight all the gods I guess
>go to elysium
>as per usual all the enemies are pretty tame except one that is ridiculously overtuned and fricks you in the ass hard
>get to boss, no save point or anything before her
>she kicks my ass and has a billion hp
not eager to save the time goddess
Elysium god is probably the hardest. Would recommend doing last.
The only other one I remember is inside the volcano and outside the demon lord's castle.
There's a total of 6 'god' fights. Check the book of mythology for a few hints on some of them.
it's shit