Red star Jill prayed to for Clive to be safe and come back goes away. Jill thinks he's dead, but then immediately stops crying when the sun comes and she sees something in the distance and smiles. The beginning of the game has Clive narrating as if telling a story. It's obviously Clive lives like I don't know how to spell it out for anybody, it's so blatant man.
11 months ago
Anonymous
She's seeing Joshua return, which is why he writes the book.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Joshua that writes the book is either Clive using his name or Clive and Jill's kid named in Joshua's honor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ending literally has Clive narrating the story like a book. Shes.not gonna stop crying about the man she loved dying because Joshua bruh.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You moron, they already established that Clive takes people's names to honor him with the part of him being named Cid. "Joshua" is Clive larping as his brother
11 months ago
Anonymous
Clive narrates the entire thing as if he was reading a book. We find out why at the end
Jill prayed to the Red star "Metia" aka METEION for Josh and Clive SAFE return, it took many years for her wish to reach the star, but it did and it disappeared returning them both back.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Even the fricking dog knew clive is dead bruh
What is this cope
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, this is what I got. It is why the book is written by JOSH and not JOSH THE 2ND.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's written by Joshua because Clive is the using that name
>a extra scene where clive heals the fricking body
how dumb are you lol? insane amount of aether can literally do anything
That scene is to emphasize Joshua being dead anon please
11 months ago
Anonymous
you are wrong lol. both of them are alive. have you never played xiv?
11 months ago
Anonymous
no bro she smiled because joshua returned because that's what i do if i believe my lover died
smile that his brother at least survived
Oh I dunno, how did Frodo learn those details to write the book when he and Sam were separated from the Fellowship until the end of the trilogy? The answer is it doesn’t fricking matter.
Think about it you fricking moron
If Jill saw clivv alive she would be OVERJOYED, not just "smiling"
It's either her bf's brother or the sunrise was too beautiful and she just smiles
can you answer these questions? >do we see at any point that joshua was a writer wanted to be a writer in XVI? >do we see joshua actually write the story down like Frodo does in LOTR, proving it did happen but he's just writing about it in story. >why did joshua have to include events he wasn't aware of? >was the gay alien sex necessary to joshua's story?
This interpretation is as moronic as thinking the post credits scene is set at the very beginning and the two kids are clive and joshua from the past and that they lifted the whole thing from a book and then proceeded to make it happen irl
barry's austrlian and they don't write dates that way. >Forspoken won
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/23q4outline.pdf >Unfortunately, both sales and profits declined YoY. Results for “FORSPOKEN,” which we released on January 24, 2023, were disappointing
both barry and the cultists lost today.
user score? Wtf, hahaha. Damn, noctislo er69 and ffan420 are really reliable lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
Computer, zoom and enhance on those XV scores
11 months ago
Anonymous
have a nice day already xiv cultist
go read your fricking book
11 months ago
Anonymous
>barry seething this much he got called out for spamming XV reviews
11 months ago
Anonymous
>XVI-kun projecting when literally exposed for spam voting xiv trash
11 months ago
Anonymous
>XVI-kun projecting when literally exposed for spam voting xiv trash
>doesn't deny the XV reviews are fake and dummy accounts
best part is you'll keep spamming them because if you go by critical reviews xv is even worse off because no one gives a shit about dlc
11 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't deny the XIV reviews are fake and dummy accounts
best part is you'll keep spamming them because if you go by critical reviews xiv is even worse off because no one gives a shit about mmo expacs
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this much cope
XIV won in every way that XV lost
11 months ago
Anonymous
xiv lost
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
xv made more money in 6 years than ff14 made in 10 years
xv made more money in 1 month than ff14 made in 6 years
11 months ago
Anonymous
See you when Rebirth comes around and Nomura makes you cry as much as Yoshida has
11 months ago
Anonymous
cope barry
XIV has made more money than any game in the series
11 months ago
Anonymous
only after 11 years
not 10 years meaning xv made more than xiv time aligned
11 months ago
Anonymous
>cope aligned
more money, more sales, higher scores, more beloved
No one even thinks about XV except for you barry, your game isn't even memorably bad like 13 was
This will once again be a decent game that Ganker will be delusional about for years to come. You made up your minds far before release and nothing will change it. It will probably be critically acclaimed, and one of Square's best selling titles in recent years but I will still see anons claiming it flopped because their only exposure to whats popular is on this moronic board where no one actually played the game. You will make up shit that isn't even in the game, and you will have meltdowns over things that are in the game for 10 seconds out of dozens of hours. I've seen this happen over and over and its really pathetic at this point. You guys got so high off of TORtanic that it caused permanent brain damage. I've seen people claim on this board that Monster Hunter World was a flop when its literally Capcom's best selling game of all time. If you continue this habit of creating your own reality before reality has even happened and then sticking to it, no one will ever take you seriously. If you wonder why the types of people here aren't listened to anymore in this industry, it really shouldn't be too confusing if you aren't completely lost.
Are you new here you fricking moron. We ALL love FF16. It’s easily the most popular game on Ganker right now and one of the most beloved games ever, even before release.
There’s only ONE person who doesn’t like FF16, and his name is Barry. He spams the catalog and every thread. He is Ganker’s sworn nemesis and is more powerful than any other foe in our history. All of us are united in supporting FF16 so that Barry can be defeated.
>"Clive, is it okay if I add a scene where you and Jill have sex? I will describe your ass in detail, don't worry. Oh, and I also want to write a scene where Barnabas licks alien troony wiener. The story could also use some more cuck scenes."
>"Clive, is it okay if I add a scene where you and Jill have sex? I will describe your ass in detail, don't worry. Oh, and I also want to write a scene where Barnabas licks alien troony wiener. The story could also use some more cuck scenes."
Why would Joshua do this?
reminds of old child books, like pinnochio that kind of shit
im typing this nowing because im sad for all man who trust in this MOVIE.... im saying only this because MOVIE... ruining gameing... stop supporting MOVIE.... all be better in the end
>And then Hugo just started screaming at us. He was completely batshit insane. >OK. I'll draw an illustration of him hallucinating you fricking Benedikta from behind while you bite her neck. >...Joshua, what the frick >Father, I assure you, this is central to the themes of the story.
Was a pretty good ride other than them being too Japanese to give us clarity on Clive's fate without ambiguityfrickery.
Hopefully they fix that in the coming months.
So are all fiction stories written by schizo randos? The implication was pretty clear, it’s a storybook written by someone in universe. That’s like calling Tolkien or GRRM schizophrenic just because they wrote fantasy stories.
>Magic is gone for millenia >Random current era kids would try to use magic because....??
You do realize kids larping powers from fractional stories they like is the most common shit imaginable right?
It’s actually so fricking funny because the book trope is common as frick, to the point of being trite and literally not one single time has it ever been >this shit is just a random book lol frick you
Any time the author goes for that style of ending it’s either meta or “it was a dream”
what are you doomsissies smoking? Joshua's book will not have a troonylicking Barry. The story happened but the abridged or short story version was penned by joshua in his old age maybe. Bittersweet ending but hopeful just like yoshida said.
It went off the fricking rails. All they had to do was stick to political intrigue and kaiju fights, that’s all. Keep it grounded and safe. Of course they had to run the bus off a cliff with a race of alien shapeshifters that created magic, and then wrap it up with “it’s just a bedtime story for kids LOL”
Its so grounded until you fight typhoon they dont bother clive turning into the primals you absorb because there will be a moron summoning ifeit and getting raped if there was elemental system
OFFICIAL ENDING MEANING:
''Folklore ascribes to Metia the role of message-bearer to the moon, so it is common custom across Valisthea to wish upon the star, that one's heartfelt desires might be conveyed to the heavens and beyond''
Jill prayed to Metia as a child for Clive's safe return. When the star winks out she's distraught because she thinks the prayer didn't work. But the sunrise and her smiling at someone in the distance actually reveals that the star literally conveyed the message to the heavens. It did it's job, Clive is returning to her.
BOOK: The book was written by Clive, but for the purposes of writing it he took on Joshua's name to immortalize him, just like he did with Cid. If you pay attention at the start of the game, Clive's dialogue reads as if he actually is narrating the Prologue of a book. Joshua is 100% dead in any case.
I don't get it, what did he win ?
His continued presence ? He wouldn't have stopped regardless of this games outcome.
He'll be there for Rebirth, IX remake, X remake, KH4 and so on and so on.
>mongoloid leaker misinterprets basic storytelling >Barry now can spam that meme shit for months >morons will make threads about "what actually happened because people online say it was all a dream"
Fricking hell
There is literally no proof Joshua survived and you guys are pushing that.
Whereas there is plenty of proof Clive survived but you just handwave that.
Funny.
>a scene where Clive heals him and fails to get a result
"HURR DURR JOSHUA SURVIVED FOR SURE CLIVE DED AS FRICK THO XDDDD" >Clive still alive, holding a petrified arm up to the moon
"HE'S SO DEAD LMAO THEY DIDN'T HARD CONFIRM HIS SURVIVAL SO HE'S A GONER."
>A scene with the dual purpose of affirming that magic has no further use in the world Clive has created and that Joshua is well and truly beyond revival
moron
>Clive literally can't revive Joshua >Clive literally alive on the beach last seen >ummmmmm no proof Clive survived, but Joshua did
You're mentally moronic
This.
You can believe Joshua survived and Clive survived.
You can believe Clive survived and Joshua didn't.
But you can't believe Joshua survived and Clive didn't because "muh evidence" because the evidence points more towards Clive surviving than Joshua surviving.
>Jill stops crying after seeing someone >Clive is known to honor those he respects after they have passed such as Cid >It is Clive's voice that is heard narrating most of the game
You are extremely moronic
Hmmm, what will I call my historical account of real events that actually happened? I KNOW! "Final Fantasy", only a fool would think this was some kind of fairy tale
Its called that because its the tale of the ending of fantasy and magic. They literally have a quote about being witness to the final fantasy before the final battle
They really didn't elaborate any further at all on what Barnabas deal was? Where he originally came from? What his mommy issues were? How he came into contact with Ultima? Disappointing
probably locked behind a side quest. The leaker started to rush toward the ending. Side quest probably have shit ton of information about this setting like FF14
I have no complaints about the whole "old historical events fading into myth" thing. It's pretty common and works well.
I only take issue with them being too chickenshit to just say "ok yeah clive survives"
That kind of ambiguity isn't profound or interesting, it's just boring.
>STOP BEING EXCITED FOR A GAME I CANT PLAY >putting only Nintendo homosexuals >not the xbot/pc homosexuals
oh wait the jannie is the PC/XBOX homosexual
Resetera is amazing, they seethe about all female games like neptunia, they seethe about female led franchises like Atelier, they seethe about FFXV not having women and 16 having women
absolutely nothing except the side shave girlboss black woman is ever acceptable to them
I wish I had saved the picture I saw here a month or so ago. It summarized the kind of desexed castrated male power fantasy that redditor types have. If you ever read Robert E Howard then take Solomon Kane and replace his christian righteousness with a secular anti-bully and that's pretty much it.
Guts kind of exemplifies it, but the fricking literally who on twitter really just perfectly encapsulated their aspiration of a hero. Utterly desexed, no or barely any sexuality towards women, no potentially harmful or flawed behavior, no flirtiness, nothing. Stoic and laconic and selfless. I hate to dab on Tenchi Muyo, but pretty much fricking Tenchi Muyo or Ah My Goddess' dude if he wasn't being mind-neutered by Bellandy and was just sincerely impotent.
This is the reason why people actually had to kvetch about Rex fricking Nia and Pyrra and mythra. Whereas anyone normal finds it funny or endearing how that dorky ass clown shoes motherfricker became a harem chad.
>Clive lives the rest of his live peacefully and refuses to use magic otherwise he would fully turn to stone. >There are no more crystals so his magical powers start disappearing over time as well >Fast forward millennials
Simple, Clive says that humanity will manage and they just did. How moronic you can be? It's an elegant ending, that the event of the past became a legend, or a "fantasy" or some sort. It's elegant and well done.
It makes no sense though. This super race of ayylmaos that can cross stars as ghosts need to do all this convoluted shit to fix it, but medival man just offscreens the issue?
Joshua never got resurrected, it was Clive taking his name or they named their kid Joshua
The blight stopped because magic can no longer exist without crystals
Simple, Clive says that humanity will manage and they just did. How moronic you can be? It's an elegant ending, that the event of the past became a legend, or a "fantasy" or some sort. It's elegant and well done.
>joshua resurrection
They named their kid Joshua >blight
crystals were causing it :^)
>3 entirely different headcanon trying to explain the same ending
Yeah you guys are totally not coping at all
>3 different
Get a screwdriver and shove it through that temple of yours, maybe you MIGHT become less moronic
All of those are the same interpretations worded differently but you are a hopeless mongoloid with zero reading comprehension
I've seen >Its all fake >Joshua lives, Clive doesn't >Both Clive and Joshua live >Clive is actually now Joshua and is writing the story >Joshua is actually Jill's kid and he's writing about his father
And NONE of these answer everything in a satisfying manner. Its a shit ending and you know it.
Literally the only right interpretation is Clive living and authoring and honoring Joshua in his name, there is more than enough plot points that point towards this than the others
No matter what the ending was going for, it's half-assed >Blight
Off screened >Bearers
Lol who cares >Post-credits
These moronic humans are still stuck in the dark ages after probably millennia
>These moronic humans are still stuck in the dark ages after probably millennia
This is probably true too.
You're telling me so much time passes that even a relatively advanced society has forgotten about magic and giant world ending demons; but somehow haven't developed enough to make a fricking lighter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
they can still print perfect books though lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
Actually yeah what the frick, the society that doesn't know how to light fires is able to print out books?
the crystals are the source of the blight. No crystal no blight. With the apocalypse near the end, few humans may have survived and essentially set back civilization by centuries or thousands of years which made the game events legendary or fairytales
11 months ago
Anonymous
And what about the bearers?
11 months ago
Anonymous
maybe hiding or can't do magick after destroying the crystals
This. Its a shit ambiguous ending. I've seen like 7 different interpretations already.
In HW and Tactics people weren't coping this hard. Because only the minor details were kept ambiguous.
You don't see people arguing whether FFT was all fake or real, you see them arguing on Ramza
>You don't see people arguing whether FFT was all fake or real, you see them arguing on Ramza
Lol what, people were arguing for years if everyone besides Ramza were dead, hell people were arguing if Ramza HIMSELF died
Then that'd be okay.
If they wanna stick with the stupid ambiguity that only exists to push stupid ass "did they, didn't they" discussions online, then it's lame
>FINAL FANTASY XVI book reading >Joshua: And then Clive screams ILL FRICKING KILL YOU at the top of his lungs as he dances in the blood if his brothers corpse. End of Act I. Now as for a special treat for you kids I'll be reading my unedited 80 page manuscript of my brother having sex with my cousin in full graphic detail!
Leviathan could be possible for a dlc. I've read here that leviathan is a peculiar old god which ties to the hollow earth theory several months ago with some evidence from the demo with the hollow underground
I missed most of today's leaks, do we ever find out what exactly Ultima is?
A lot of Ultima stuff in FF games lately, XIV is even referencing her/it in its recent patch.
In 16 he's a rip-off of Deus from Xenogears but an alien instead of machine. Deus is a fricking machine but still far better written than Ultima somehow.
And we're going to get midwits for the next years calling ff16's writing the true successor to Gears when it only really matches a few bullet points and has none of the substance
Ayylmao from a race that created the world Clive lives in because they're being destroyed by space aids and needed a way to counter it. The world got too sentient so they're trying to make them moronic again so it can claim their ultimate vessel Clive
I find it funny that doomtrannies are forced to pretend they have 0 media literacy and have the comprehension of an infant
Literally pretending to be moronic
Because the redditor is moronic and forgot how Clive literally couldn't revive Joshua and that Clive is known to author the names of his fallen loved ones, Jill also wouldn't smile for fricking Joshua when she's mourning Clive at the moment, she would run up to Joshua crying about how Clive died
Here's the Moongazing lyrics you dipshits >I was looking up at the moon, searching for something >When I was frightened by the storm (a.k.a. Metia disappearing),
I’m glad it was you who appeared before me >As if none of this had ever happened,
I know this fire will never go out, surely
Dawn breaks just as Clive returns to Jill, they got their happily ever after
meh. i wish the final scene was Joshua reborn as Clive and Jill's babby, would've been more kino to emphasized the cycle of rebirth and capstone their journey together. joshua not dying at the start unravels the shock value of the demo
If Clive lived then what the hell was all that star shit about?
There is a red star that is completely irrelevant to the story, I guess? Even though its framed as being important in terms of cinematography?
Jesus christ you dipshit. The star symbolizes a messenger to the gods, it's literally spelled out for you in the ATL. At the end of the game it disappears (carries Jill's message). The powers that be gave her Clive back because they suffered enough.
Jill made a wish to the star for Clive to return alive. The star went out after fulfilling that wish, which is why she was seen smiling at the incoming figure (Clive).
>This shit is just Xenoblade 3 again
Remind me again, how did XB3 end after you spent a year denying an obvious happy end?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Handwave-y logic for a happy end.
It's crazy how Xenoblade 3 and FF16 have similar flaws.
You have this brutal world raised by a god who doesn't want free will for the people, said god and his villain allies all suck as characters. The one good villain (N/Dion) both turn coat and redeem themselves.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Handwave-y logic for a happy end.
On other words you're still fricking mad an obvious ending ended up being an obvious ending
Get gigafricked
Jesus christ you dipshit. The star symbolizes a messenger to the gods, it's literally spelled out for you in the ATL. At the end of the game it disappears (carries Jill's message). The powers that be gave her Clive back because they suffered enough.
Jill wishes on the star at the beginning of the game for Clive's safe return
It winks out at the end of the game, the sun rises, and Jill smiles as she sees or realises something
Jill made a wish upon a star for beloved to come back to her, more than a decade ago
It disappeared upon granting her wish after the final battle
>just conveniently grants her wish in the 11th hour out of nowhere
So now the cope is that Joshua wrote the book; which is a re-telling of what happened, but since it would be from his perspective it means shit may or may not have actually happened as is shown.
It was shit when it happened in Umineko, and it's shit here too.
For people who haven't even played the game and are just making their opinion based on some bullet points a marketer and a redditor have provided, you guys sure are confident in your theories.
Japs love symbolism and nuance in their shitty open endings, perhaps waiting on the full story and actually playing the game before you come up with your ideas might be better?
This, there is no need to show him alive after an event that should have seemingly killed him. We also know that the petrification thing doesn't kill you immediately, only if you keep using magic.
That's Japs for you, they kept trying to push the fact this wasn't a JRPG and it's more western orientated, and yet the second half of the game is some crazy shit you'd see in the most ridiculous JRPGS, like Xenoblade. They just can't do anything else
>Look, we let you get away with all the other stuff, but we can't publish your book if you insist on keeping in the scene where Ultima turns into Torgal and gets fricked by Barnabas and his army
I am sorry bro but Joshua is pretty definitively dead. Even if he was unconscious (which he wasn't, he was dead, even the phoenix left him), his body would have never survived that and Clive is alone in the beach.
modern people are taught not to actually think about media beyond GOOD/BAD or MODERN POLITICS GOOD, so when you say something like [x] did nothing wrong even as a joke you get unironic people seething over it because HURR THEY MURDERED PEOPLE SO BAD
I see this in youtube comments all the time. The modern day person is utterly fricked
I sure do hope that people think arent thinking joshua actually wrote jill and clive sex or barnabas sucking alien penises.
The book is what happened at its core.
The game (the real story) goes on what actually happened
Yes, and several millenia later they still haven't figured out how fire works or improved technology BUT they have forgotten about eikons and magic and crystals BUT they can make copies of books now.
Amazing logic
>Barnabas dropped to his knees in front of Ultima, now wearing the form of Benedikta, but in place of Benedikta's mangled petals stood Hugo's manhood, standing tall, proud, and angry. With a lick of his lips Barnabas--- >no wait you don't understand this has to be in there. The people need to know this!
He said he knew someone from SE which is how he got the digital code. That doesn't mean he works for SE. Every reviewer gets a digital code
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nice cope. Remember it was the leaker gay whose wiener you have so far down your throat right now who couldn't even interpret the ending and you call people who dislike it media illiterate as a coping mechanism lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
You couldn't interpret the ending because you had too many tears in your eyes
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nice cope, again, the homosexual whose dick you keep riding is the only media illiterate one, the rest of us hate this ending because it is a tired dogshit trope of ...and then, many years into the future, our moronic human descendants think it was all a fantasy.
they fricked up honestly with the ending, having a bad ending is a BIG turn off because it makes everything feel meaningless or epic if you pull it off well. No game can be 10/10 without a good ending.
Because it is literally the final events in a world of fantasy, the reality of which is lost to those who will never grow up in it - magic, eikons, bearers, all of those don't exist and may as well never have to the generations after Clive
Joshua live, the world forget about magic
-His name is on the book
-Clive tried to resurrect him, maybe he succeed with a delay
- he is the personne Jill is seeing at the end
-the character not knowing that magic was real show that clive was right about humanity
Clive live, the world forget about magic.
-His is the narrator of the story and knows details that Joshua or Jill can't possibly have knowledge off
-The main theme of the game's lyric could implied that clive is alive
-He is the personne Jill is seeing at the end
-the character not knowing that magic was real show that clive was right about humanity
Clive and Joshua are dead, the author is clive son
-There is a baby in the end with Jill, this could be and implication that Jill was pregnant for the end of the game.
-the character not knowing that magic was real show that clive was right about humanity
Its all a book LMAO
-the characters are saying that the book is just fairytails
You forgot some strong points for the Clive theory, the metia star for one and the fact that he has demonstrably taken over Cids title in his honour and likely did the same for Joshua since he literally has the phoenix now. Also the fact that they wouldn't show him on the shore if he was dead
For it's all a book:
- Seemingly no technological progress from the ending to the fairy tale.
- Mother calls Eikons and magic fantasy indicating if it was real at least several millenia have passed. But then again, somehow they didn't make technology better in all those years.
>Seemingly no technological progress from the ending to the fairy tale.
without magic, it's heavily suggested that humanity can't do anything technologie wise. they probably regressed to the dark age when clive destroyed all magic.
>There is a baby in the end with Jill, this could be and implication that Jill was pregnant for the end of the game.
The baby belonged to the pregnant woman that they rescued.
You stupid fricking morons. Jill wish was for all of them to return home safe. Dion is alived, joshua is alive and even fricking Clive is alive. idk why so many morons in here lol
Yeah in 2020. We don't have an accurate number of what it sold in the 3 years since and people got confused by the "VII sold 14.1 million" press bit they did
Yes we do, they literally said it in the most recent press release. There is no better time to give an updated number and they in fact updated the number from the original game.
So either
1. The game didn't reach six million.
2. The game surpassed six million but Square still considered the number so unimpressive they would rather repeat an old vague number so people/investors can cope that they just "forgot" to update the number somehow.
Rule of thumb is that when a publisher stops updating numbers it's best to assume the game stopped selling meaningful numbers. Otherwise you end up with vgchartz style moronic inflation of numbers and outright made up data.
barry's never won
XIV is cored higher, made more money, and has had more a cultural impact than XV ever will
forspoken was so bad it killed the team making it
Jill's prayer to the star worked, Clive returns to her.
Thousands of years later kids are LARPing the book, written by Joshua Rosfield (Clive took on his name just like with Cid). It happened, but to them it's myth like Heracles is to us
I want an FF story to end like this: >It was actually the Princess Bride style of storytelling and modern day Clive was telling the story to a sick in bed modern day Joshua >They're all at a library lapping as the characters in the book >It's was a DnD session the entire time
because it literally was the final fantasy
destroying the big crystal marked the end of magic, and therefore the age of fantasy
clive's tale was literally THE final fantasy
>Story about a bunch of people with super powerful kaijus inside of them that are used as essentially living WMDs >main villain plan is to combine all the kaijus into a super kaiju >Protag Kaiju is actually split into two Kaijus >main villain lineup changes hands constantly be revealing the current villains was just being manipulated by the next villain until we get to the final boss >final boss is an ayyylmao who's responsible for all the magic existing and wants to turn humanity into Not!Zombies >protag loses an arm in the final battle
Why does this game keep making me think of the last arcs of Naruto?
Final fantasy mode needs to have a secret ending where we see jill and clive embrace
Learn basic media literacy. The ending we got is god-tier.
It's Xenoblade 3 2.0
AKA it filters morons, but literacy chads know that the entire story is...
Just an allegory for real world war and capitalism, and global warming. Or something.
>Story about a bunch of people with super powerful kaijus inside of them that are used as essentially living WMDs >main villain plan is to combine all the kaijus into a super kaiju >Protag Kaiju is actually split into two Kaijus >main villain lineup changes hands constantly be revealing the current villains was just being manipulated by the next villain until we get to the final boss >final boss is an ayyylmao who's responsible for all the magic existing and wants to turn humanity into Not!Zombies >protag loses an arm in the final battle
Why does this game keep making me think of the last arcs of Naruto?
Because they haven’t made a decent game in the entirety of their history as a company. The last good FF was X, to absolutely no surprise was one of the last Square games.
>Okay, Clive. Thanks for mentioning Hugo's cuck fantasies. Now tell me about that time you and Jill had sex in as much detail as you can remember. This is vital for the book
What did Joshua mean by this?
>take out Black folk, >throw in massive amounts of homosexualry, anal fricking and a homosexual spirit that possesses a broken prostitutes body in some trans allegory. >Ganker is still swallowing squeenix cum even after lying about ff7 remake, ff15, and this ff16 homosexualshit.
Ganker and finaltards are the most pathetic cucks that i have ever witnessed. absolute c**tcanoes filled to the top with cum, shit and frothing cum-shitfoam on top like some shit-aids-n-piss slushpuppy with whipcream on top.
>YoshiP-sama, was it all just a story? Did Joshua survive? What is the real ending? >Well, ummmmm, we know what happened, but, well, ummmmm, whatever you think happened is what happened
Reminder that the entire story could have been resolved if everyone prayed hard enough
Benedikta? Wouldn't be raped
Hugo? Would've had her
Cid? Would be alive
Barnabas? Wouldn't be a degen
Sorry for tripping again. But I feel I kinda need to explain why I interpreted the ending as such.
So Cid and Mid's story arc is all about helping people lose their reliance on the crystals. Cid's entire deal with the Hideaway is that he's making inventions to help people live without them and to teach them shit like actual agriculture.
Mid invents a ground breaking steam boat (it burns mythril, but mythril is just fuel in universe) that is a major plot point in the game. We spend 2 hours of play time helping her build it and it's how we invade Ash.
There are several quests where members of Cid and later Clive's organisation install these inventions in towns. We're talking steam engines and bellows. This to counteract the fact that all the crystals went poof.
What I'm saying is that during the story, technology was already advancing pretty nicely past mudcore. So it just felt very weird to me that so much time has passed that several world wars and a world ending cataclysm has been the stuff of legends but also that the characters in the post-credits are still living in the mudcore age. Not to mention you lads don't know the state of the world at the end. Barnabas murdered most of Ash. An entire continent. Dude waged a genocide. Literally all the countries are gone. Everything is objectively fricked. The Blight is also not gone since Ultima specifically says the Nexus was supposed to unmake the Blight using a spell he had to cast and that their world is doomed regardless.
It may just sound like copium, but it just felt wrong to me in the context of the universe unless it was a book. Anyway, that's my two cents after reading your replies about it.
I also want Joshua and co to have a good ending, don't get me wrong. But you guys will see when you play it. Hoping we'll have cool discussions about it next week when you lads finish it.
Yes, but they somehow don't know about how to make lighters.
Keep in mind a book back then was considered a luxury. A lighter was much easier to come by and make.
It was a basic medieval cottage and they were making fire using flint and tinder. Thing is, their society was already late medieval early renaissance going by the tech Cid and Mid were developing.
It would seem like I will need to play this for myself rather than have multiple others giving differing opinions based on their understanding of the plot.
Definitely odd, but could the ending bit be literally a rural country family and it was only to showcase the lack of magic? And technology is thriving in cities?
Considering we only saw this family in their cottage... I mean, they could be LARPers or mormons for all we know.
BTW some people asked for more specific details so:
The mother did not have Jill's hair colour.
The kids had the same hair colour as Clive and Joshua.
When they played, the first asked what they wanna play. He named a fictional play that Clive played during the game with his Uncle Byron when he was a child. (Which implies this play from that time is also remembered)?
The other kid doesn't wanna play that and wants to play War of the Eikons (based on the book).
First boy says: he wants to be Ifrit.
Second boy says: no fair! I'm the older brother.
First boy responds: Because Bahamut says so! (he refers to their small dog).
I hate what you people and bots have done to the internet, you’ve ruined the potential of a golden age for humanity filled with freedom and the broken restraints of the material and turned it into yet another fricking marketing outlet.
>Basic media literacy >Leaker literally showcases that the technology timeline makes no fricking sense, unless they actually fricking regressed in technology after stopping magic for some reason. >Basic media literacy
Maybe you need to start thinking more.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>for some reason.
The leaker in the same post says they’re a genocidal continent spanning war, shut the frick up. Imagine being forced to pretend to be moronic
THE ENDING? The entire fricking premise is ludicrous. Who thought that “big monster men like Godzilla and King Kong with transgender alien morphers” was a good idea? I genuinely do not understand how you people can appreciate this it’s making my head spin.
PS5 have their own playtime built in bro, just check the homepage or the games section of your profile. Stop lying on purpose and just tell us you played it for 25 hours
Question for
for you. Do they mention any other countries?
11 months ago
Margrace-kun
Can you elaborate?
I just checked the game timer. So to see that, you need to be online.
I am not allowed by Square Enix to connect my PS5 to PSN until embargo lifts because if I do, everyone that friends me will be able to see my trophies.
And since I have SE people on my friend's list, not gonna do that. Sorry lads. I literally don't get why it doesn't have an ingame time. Every FF game has one.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, now I can tell you are straight up lying about your playtime.
11 months ago
Margrace-kun
Why the frick would I lie about something this fricking banal when I spoiled the entire fricking ending to the game?
>It was a basic medieval cottage
if it's was really a cottage then this mean that the scene take place in a rural area, the low tech is then perfectly normal
Can't replay cutscenes ingame. Also the ending can not be shared on PSN. You literally cannot clip or screencap the game the moment you enter he final chapter. It gives you a warning.
This is one of the reasons I kept taking pictures of the screen. It randomly blocks sharing to prevent spoilers.
>It was a basic medieval cottage and they were making fire using flint and tinder. Thing is, their society was already late medieval early renaissance going by the tech Cid and Mid were developing.
maybe you don't know that Margrace but until recently in human history, the technological gap between populated area and random place in the middle of nowhere was insane. Having a low tech environnement for this scene don't really indicate anything
It would seem like I will need to play this for myself rather than have multiple others giving differing opinions based on their understanding of the plot.
Definitely odd, but could the ending bit be literally a rural country family and it was only to showcase the lack of magic? And technology is thriving in cities?
Unless it's a family that lives in north korea, idk how they would've forgotten that Eikon's and magic did exist.
Technology thriving, should by itself have ensured that Eikon's/magic were once implied to be real but according to the mother it's just a fairy tale. It's not like the main game takes place in the fricking dark ages, they are well past the time of hieroglyphs. Hell, the duke literally produces a letter in the opening.
Books are probably not that rare by the time of the base game, AKA knowledge can be stored.
I guess it's possible the world had a "library of Alexandria" moment and 95% of things burned down, but still...
Oh quit the bullshit, we both know you’re an employee. I literally hate you people for what you have done to places like this. There’s barely any regular posters on here anymore because of people like you ruining it by pretending to be regular Joes when you’re more marketing snakes.
I don't work for Square Enix. I know people at SE. This means I can't get in trouble legally. I would just get people I know mad at me.
I am also under no obligation to say good things about the game. I said several bad things about the first 20 hours that I still stand by. I feel 20 hours is too long a time for it to hide things like chocobos and marks.
PS5 have their own playtime built in bro, just check the homepage or the games section of your profile. Stop lying on purpose and just tell us you played it for 25 hours
Lemme check that. I didn't know that. Will post picture. I don't play on my PS5. I got it for free and it has no games besides this.
>What I'm saying is that during the story, technology was already advancing pretty nicely past mudcore
yeah but the blight probably destroyed everything and put back mankind to the stone age
>It may just sound like copium
Nah, the true copium is the idiots acting like "it was a story the whole time" is not a popular trope. And seeing as how Yoshi-P was hinting that there could be DLC or a sequel, the "it was a story" seems even more likely because then he can retcon everything.
I like how doomtrannies have to pretend to be sub 50 IQ to downplay the ending. Name 3 endings where it is literally just a book, because I can name 3 book endings where it’s not a fricking book
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream
There you go homosexual. Try learning about tropes before pretending like you know anything about writing.
Put a bullet on your head moron >it was a dream all along
Is an entirely different trope, usually used for psycho horror or other genres with extremely unreliable narrators.
I just think he saw the guy having trouble starting a fire and just assume that the scene is in the darkmud area without considering that just having a book shutdown this theory completely
Anon, the ending is a SUPER fricking obvious parallel to the last scene of FF7. To think "it's just all a fairy tale bro" is so moronic i still don't understand how the frick did you even come to this conclusion.
>It didn't even end ambiguously or strangely, it just showed the world healing.
No that one was ambiguous.
They even got letters asking to change the ending and people used to hate the ending for how ambiguous it was.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010827161501/http://www.rpgamer.com/editor/1997/q4/122497ml.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20011120213232/http://www.rpgamer.com/editor/1997/q4/101997sc.html
IDK why you want me to start a debate with 20 year old posts.
But I did, and the complaints about plot holes or unexplored things is not related to the ending. It's just because it was a game on a budget, and this gay like so many wanted more.
It's a good ending and it having things left unexplored is not ambiguity, it's that it has to be finite.
>IDK why you want me to start a debate with 20 year old posts.
Its not a debate, the ending was ambiguous. >having things left unexplored
the game purposely left up the question of whether meteor wiped out humans or not. The team didn't agree on an answer until AC.
Kitase said they were kill, nojima says humanity survived.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's a nojima has to fix kitase's moronation again episode
he will do the same with R = U
11 months ago
Anonymous
Humanity did survive... It didn't need to be spelled out. The planet saved them, Midgar is abandoned and they live.
Flash future: humanity didn't go back to destroying the planet. Happy ending.
How do you even come to the conclusion that Meteor could have killed humanity?
Either the events of the game destroyed every technological advance made by Mid and her crew or the ending is purposefully set in a rural area to make the fact that magic no longer exists more of the focus of the scene
There's a difference between an ambiguous ending and one where you can reasonably imply what happened. If you didn't realize the protagonist died at the end of Persona 3 you're an actual idiot, if you're not sure what happened here that's understandable.
It’s trashy. FF utilised courtly romance as part of the heroes adventure aesthetic that can even be seen by Amanos artwork for each game. This is just a tacky low IQ game utilising cliche after cliche and hiding the tardy writing with sex and controversy. The entire setting is fricking awful to begin with, genuinely surprised it got past the initial stages of plot development - God only knows what horrors were abandoned in favour of this games story kek
Shut the frick up doomgay barry dicksucker-kun
There's a legitimate barry post in the thread confirming his appearance. Suck his wiener some more
xiv lost
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
xv made more money in 6 years than ff14 made in 10 years
xv made more money in 1 month than ff14 made in 6 years
"Its just a story" just amounts to nothing. It has no meaning or theme. Its the same as if the game ends with a zoom out of the tv screen and we see a some dude playing the game on a ps5. I mean the world we see at the end may as well be our own it literally doesnt matter because of course the tale is fictional anyway. Its not like its a fake tale in valisthea itself
Yeah i dont get the confusion. If it truly is supossed to be "just a story" then who cares anyway of course it is, the same way it was just a story in princess bride idk
To us is a fairy tale story all the same.
It would suck if we saw something like clive and joshua as kids in rosaria and the whole world was real but they were just pretending to be eikons etc because that would men the world does exist but they are losers
I havent seen any more leaks or anything, but i saw someone mention that Clive likes to take other people name to write shit to preserve them
If thats true, then im sorry but if you think joshua wrote it, you are braindead as frick. Thats not a random detail, thats a way of saying that clive did survived, wrote the book and used joshua name. I dont know how else to say it.
>Joshua, why isn't Tyrone in this book? The huge black guy who is built like a brick, but is a giant with a good heart? Why is his gf into you and helping you? Order of what? It was pure chance that he found you and told you about ultima plot. He believed himself to be a warrior of light. In fact I couldn't have won against Odin, if he didn't explain why he was so fricking strong, he also tried to set me up with jill many times, what the frick is going on ano- >I FRICKING HATE TYRONE. HE STOLE MY TOMBOY GIRLFRIEND. FRICK HIM. I WILL ERASE HIM FROM FRICKING HISTORY. I HAVE NOTHING NOW!!! 18 YEARS OF MY LIFE AND I HAVE WASTED IT
>HEY BARRY NOTICE ME HEY HEY BARRY I MADE A CHART FOR YOU CAN YOU LOOK AT IT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF IT BARRY I'M YOU'RE BIGGEST FAN BARRY
The frick...
I am a full believer that Clive is alive thanks to Jill's wish. But the whole "media illiterate" shit is kinda cringe and reminds of some shit twitter would say. It's also kinda pointless since these people are purposely misinterpreting the ending, if they can muddy the waters they will, margrace-kun running out of brain cells the VERY LAST second also didn't help.
How would doomtrannies react if they watched the wizard of oz. It’s clear the ending isn’t a made up story but it’s hilarious that doom Black folk need to debase themselves after they’ve already taken so many beatings.
Famitsu charts? TOPPED
Tendies? SEETHING
We got Xenoblade and you got Great Value DMC.
Your game?
>ZERO SEX SCENES
Our game?
>SEXXXXOOOOOOOOO
>his game has to have SEXO scenes or it's pure shit.
based coomer monkey.
>Tendies? SEETHING
Seething because this is just Xenoblade 4/Gears 2?
Tendies are probably very happy.
>it was just an author's fairy tale
What a dogshit ending
Somehow you misinterpreted the ending that humanity now cannot regard the events of the game as historical in a post-magic world.
>written by Joshua Rosfield
It literally tells you right there, its a self insert story.
It’s a character’s autobiography you moron. Tolkien pioneered this concept for frick’s sake.
So Joshua lives and Clive dies LMFAO
Red star Jill prayed to for Clive to be safe and come back goes away. Jill thinks he's dead, but then immediately stops crying when the sun comes and she sees something in the distance and smiles. The beginning of the game has Clive narrating as if telling a story. It's obviously Clive lives like I don't know how to spell it out for anybody, it's so blatant man.
She's seeing Joshua return, which is why he writes the book.
The Joshua that writes the book is either Clive using his name or Clive and Jill's kid named in Joshua's honor.
Ending literally has Clive narrating the story like a book. Shes.not gonna stop crying about the man she loved dying because Joshua bruh.
You moron, they already established that Clive takes people's names to honor him with the part of him being named Cid. "Joshua" is Clive larping as his brother
Clive narrates the entire thing as if he was reading a book. We find out why at the end
Jill prayed to the Red star "Metia" aka METEION for Josh and Clive SAFE return, it took many years for her wish to reach the star, but it did and it disappeared returning them both back.
Even the fricking dog knew clive is dead bruh
What is this cope
Yeah, this is what I got. It is why the book is written by JOSH and not JOSH THE 2ND.
It's written by Joshua because Clive is the using that name
That scene is to emphasize Joshua being dead anon please
you are wrong lol. both of them are alive. have you never played xiv?
no bro she smiled because joshua returned because that's what i do if i believe my lover died
smile that his brother at least survived
and how did he know about other people fricking.... in detail, just STFU Barry won,
Oh I dunno, how did Frodo learn those details to write the book when he and Sam were separated from the Fellowship until the end of the trilogy? The answer is it doesn’t fricking matter.
Think about it you fricking moron
If Jill saw clivv alive she would be OVERJOYED, not just "smiling"
It's either her bf's brother or the sunrise was too beautiful and she just smiles
She probably is overjoyed, but all we hot is a bullet point and know pic.
>Game starts with a LOTR reference
>Game ends with a LOTR reference
Kino
Yoshi sama
We kneel
Based
>y-you didn't get it
Dilate
>Gankereddit, including the moron who leaked it, was unironically filtered by this concept
>fródd boggins
The frick?
her com frodd
>Ganker is filled with low IQ brownoids
yikes...
Then why he jobs and his bro is the guy who fricks and do anything with succes after prologue?
You're so fricking moronic
Its literally this, mongoloid
>makes up headcanon for a game he hasn't played and resorts to attacking other posters
it really do be like that.
>being purposely moronic because you don't want to be wrong
just admit that you're brown, illiterate, and moronic
can you answer these questions?
>do we see at any point that joshua was a writer wanted to be a writer in XVI?
>do we see joshua actually write the story down like Frodo does in LOTR, proving it did happen but he's just writing about it in story.
>why did joshua have to include events he wasn't aware of?
>was the gay alien sex necessary to joshua's story?
Kek the doomsissies are nitpicking a story they experienced in a leak thread for a game they don't like. What kind of life is that
Don't ignore the questions.
>silly kids eikons aren't real
There should be tens of thousands of books corroborating their existence.
Just like there are thousands of written documents in our world about gods intervening in mortal affairs?
>enough time passed for all this shit to fade into legend
>they're still stuck in the dark ages
Humanity is so shit here
It took thousands and thousands of years for people to invent electricity moron. Gilgamesh was a real king
The cries of the cultists will echo throughout Ganker for years now, will they?
This interpretation is as moronic as thinking the post credits scene is set at the very beginning and the two kids are clive and joshua from the past and that they lifted the whole thing from a book and then proceeded to make it happen irl
BACK TO THE WHEELCHAIR ANON
LOL i won
FFXVI-kun btfo by FFXV and now MUST seethe eternally.
FFXV won,
Forspoken won,
i was right.
i was right all along, Yoshit piss is a hack writer and should step down.
lol barry you delusional homosexual.
ff16 being shit doesnt make ff15 any better.
barry's austrlian and they don't write dates that way.
>Forspoken won
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/23q4outline.pdf
>Unfortunately, both sales and profits declined YoY. Results for “FORSPOKEN,” which we released on January 24, 2023, were disappointing
both barry and the cultists lost today.
Ffxv really damaged final fantasy's reputation
Yoshi-P damaged the brand
He saved it. Pic is proof
Yoshitpiss damaged the brand
Looks legit to me unlike the xiv cultists
user score? Wtf, hahaha. Damn, noctislo er69 and ffan420 are really reliable lol
Computer, zoom and enhance on those XV scores
have a nice day already xiv cultist
go read your fricking book
>barry seething this much he got called out for spamming XV reviews
>XVI-kun projecting when literally exposed for spam voting xiv trash
>doesn't deny the XV reviews are fake and dummy accounts
best part is you'll keep spamming them because if you go by critical reviews xv is even worse off because no one gives a shit about dlc
>doesn't deny the XIV reviews are fake and dummy accounts
best part is you'll keep spamming them because if you go by critical reviews xiv is even worse off because no one gives a shit about mmo expacs
>this much cope
XIV won in every way that XV lost
xiv lost
>ff15 has combined goty and genre goty of 41
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2016/09/2016-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 a realm reborn has combined goty and genre goty of 1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2013/09/2013-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 heavensward has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2015/09/2015-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 stormblood has combined goty and genre goty of 0
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2017/09/2017-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
>ff14 shadowbringers has combined goty and genre goty of 2
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year.html?m=1
https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/2019/10/2019-game-of-year-genre-awards.html?m=1
xv made more money in 6 years than ff14 made in 10 years
xv made more money in 1 month than ff14 made in 6 years
See you when Rebirth comes around and Nomura makes you cry as much as Yoshida has
cope barry
XIV has made more money than any game in the series
only after 11 years
not 10 years meaning xv made more than xiv time aligned
>cope aligned
more money, more sales, higher scores, more beloved
No one even thinks about XV except for you barry, your game isn't even memorably bad like 13 was
Oh Barry…
Now let's see the forspoken preorders.
....how?
holy frick you actually won.
godspeed you no-life fricker.
Bazzy you lost
Must… defeat product… to consume more PRODUCT!
The next 2 weeks are going to be funny, watching you get btfo
This will once again be a decent game that Ganker will be delusional about for years to come. You made up your minds far before release and nothing will change it. It will probably be critically acclaimed, and one of Square's best selling titles in recent years but I will still see anons claiming it flopped because their only exposure to whats popular is on this moronic board where no one actually played the game. You will make up shit that isn't even in the game, and you will have meltdowns over things that are in the game for 10 seconds out of dozens of hours. I've seen this happen over and over and its really pathetic at this point. You guys got so high off of TORtanic that it caused permanent brain damage. I've seen people claim on this board that Monster Hunter World was a flop when its literally Capcom's best selling game of all time. If you continue this habit of creating your own reality before reality has even happened and then sticking to it, no one will ever take you seriously. If you wonder why the types of people here aren't listened to anymore in this industry, it really shouldn't be too confusing if you aren't completely lost.
Thank you marketer-leaker-kun. Game is shit btw. Not even worth pirating.
Are you new here you fricking moron. We ALL love FF16. It’s easily the most popular game on Ganker right now and one of the most beloved games ever, even before release.
There’s only ONE person who doesn’t like FF16, and his name is Barry. He spams the catalog and every thread. He is Ganker’s sworn nemesis and is more powerful than any other foe in our history. All of us are united in supporting FF16 so that Barry can be defeated.
why doesn't Barry like FF16? qrd?
VII remake failed to outsell Nier Automata
This game will perform even worse
Where are you getting that? Nier automata sold 7m while 7 remake is at 14m so far.
>OH NO NO NO
>HAHAHAHAHA
>"Clive, is it okay if I add a scene where you and Jill have sex? I will describe your ass in detail, don't worry. Oh, and I also want to write a scene where Barnabas licks alien troony wiener. The story could also use some more cuck scenes."
Why would Joshua do this?
>weebs eat this shit out
Children’s fairy tale btw
reminds of old child books, like pinnochio that kind of shit
>open ending slop
kys Yoshi P
im typing this nowing because im sad for all man who trust in this MOVIE.... im saying only this because MOVIE... ruining gameing... stop supporting MOVIE.... all be better in the end
Kill homosexuals. Scrape a homosexual’s eyes out with a knife. Shoot a homosexual in the testicles. Report homosexuals to CPS.
>And then Hugo just started screaming at us. He was completely batshit insane.
>OK. I'll draw an illustration of him hallucinating you fricking Benedikta from behind while you bite her neck.
>...Joshua, what the frick
>Father, I assure you, this is central to the themes of the story.
bruh lmao
FFXV Part 2: Electric Boogaloo.
It's obviously Joshua who wrote the book not Clive's kid because else the kid would be called Joshua Rossfield II, learn naming conventions.
Was a pretty good ride other than them being too Japanese to give us clarity on Clive's fate without ambiguityfrickery.
Hopefully they fix that in the coming months.
10/10 incoming. tomorrow will be hell for Barry
Game is kino.
I look forward to Xcucks and Tendies seething for years to come.
>doomtrannies final cope is proving how moronic they are
you cant ask for a better ending
It really is an incredible development.
They are so mindbroken they are trying to look like drooling dentheads in order to make the game look bad.
You love to see it, they are fully dedicated to seeing it as an actual storybook ending made by a schizophrenic rando
So are all fiction stories written by schizo randos? The implication was pretty clear, it’s a storybook written by someone in universe. That’s like calling Tolkien or GRRM schizophrenic just because they wrote fantasy stories.
The focus on the kid struggling with flint and tinder is pretty on the nose that those events actually happened and magic is gone from the world.
Or it could just be a kid emulating something he thinks is cool? Did you never fantasize about having superpowers as a kid?
Your an idiot
>Magic is gone for millenia
>Random current era kids would try to use magic because....??
You do realize kids larping powers from fractional stories they like is the most common shit imaginable right?
It’s actually so fricking funny because the book trope is common as frick, to the point of being trite and literally not one single time has it ever been
>this shit is just a random book lol frick you
Any time the author goes for that style of ending it’s either meta or “it was a dream”
what are you doomsissies smoking? Joshua's book will not have a troonylicking Barry. The story happened but the abridged or short story version was penned by joshua in his old age maybe. Bittersweet ending but hopeful just like yoshida said.
>Joshua are Barnabas fetishes really crucial to the story
>Yes the story can't happen without them
Review when? It's 21 in Japan now. Do we have to wait for the mutt time or bong time?
>demo is 10/10
>actual game is 6/10
how did they do it?
It went off the fricking rails. All they had to do was stick to political intrigue and kaiju fights, that’s all. Keep it grounded and safe. Of course they had to run the bus off a cliff with a race of alien shapeshifters that created magic, and then wrap it up with “it’s just a bedtime story for kids LOL”
>Keep it grounded and safe with kaiju fights
Its so grounded until you fight typhoon they dont bother clive turning into the primals you absorb because there will be a moron summoning ifeit and getting raped if there was elemental system
Thought it was pretty obvious Joshua survived lmao
OFFICIAL ENDING MEANING:
''Folklore ascribes to Metia the role of message-bearer to the moon, so it is common custom across Valisthea to wish upon the star, that one's heartfelt desires might be conveyed to the heavens and beyond''
Jill prayed to Metia as a child for Clive's safe return. When the star winks out she's distraught because she thinks the prayer didn't work. But the sunrise and her smiling at someone in the distance actually reveals that the star literally conveyed the message to the heavens. It did it's job, Clive is returning to her.
BOOK: The book was written by Clive, but for the purposes of writing it he took on Joshua's name to immortalize him, just like he did with Cid. If you pay attention at the start of the game, Clive's dialogue reads as if he actually is narrating the Prologue of a book. Joshua is 100% dead in any case.
This motherfricker cucked everyone in the story and compared to Clive, actually continues the bloodline.
KNEEL.
thoughts on this coomer
Ganker incarnate.
Yoshi-P made the average /xivg/ poster a character
>Joshua, write me as the Chad and Hugo as the Cuck. He'll be seething like crazy in the afterlife.
Black person like OP on Ganker will stay illiterate
Reddit leak was real
Barry won
I don't get it, what did he win ?
His continued presence ? He wouldn't have stopped regardless of this games outcome.
He'll be there for Rebirth, IX remake, X remake, KH4 and so on and so on.
>mongoloid leaker misinterprets basic storytelling
>Barry now can spam that meme shit for months
>morons will make threads about "what actually happened because people online say it was all a dream"
Fricking hell
never underestimate americans illiteracy
>NOOOOOOOO MUH KINO STORY GOT MISSINTERPRETED
kek I just love this snoy meltdown
game we played
>real historical fact that happened to the world
the book
>child friendly PR
aka no penis or wiener sex u dumb frick.
There is literally no proof Joshua survived and you guys are pushing that.
Whereas there is plenty of proof Clive survived but you just handwave that.
Funny.
Stop coping, Jesus.
>a extra scene where clive heals the fricking body
how dumb are you lol? insane amount of aether can literally do anything
>a scene where Clive heals him and fails to get a result
"HURR DURR JOSHUA SURVIVED FOR SURE CLIVE DED AS FRICK THO XDDDD"
>Clive still alive, holding a petrified arm up to the moon
"HE'S SO DEAD LMAO THEY DIDN'T HARD CONFIRM HIS SURVIVAL SO HE'S A GONER."
>A scene with the dual purpose of affirming that magic has no further use in the world Clive has created and that Joshua is well and truly beyond revival
moron
Joshua literally wrote the book, that's proof.
No proof Clive survived.
Multiple posts ahead of yours that prove this is probably not true but you posted it anyway.
>Clive literally can't revive Joshua
>Clive literally alive on the beach last seen
>ummmmmm no proof Clive survived, but Joshua did
You're mentally moronic
This.
You can believe Joshua survived and Clive survived.
You can believe Clive survived and Joshua didn't.
But you can't believe Joshua survived and Clive didn't because "muh evidence" because the evidence points more towards Clive surviving than Joshua surviving.
But its clives voice reading it as if hes the author
moron-kun, Joshua wrote the book from Clive's POV, hence the muh legendary faery tail
>Jill stops crying after seeing someone
>Clive is known to honor those he respects after they have passed such as Cid
>It is Clive's voice that is heard narrating most of the game
You are extremely moronic
Wow there are like 5 different interpretations of the ending
Sounds like its a shit ambiguous ending.
those that ignore or overlook facts can be safely discarded
So who'll be alive in the inevitable leviathan dlc
Both dion and clive because people love them
I don't think there will be a Leviathan DLC... all the magic and Eikons died when Clive dies.
Hmmm, what will I call my historical account of real events that actually happened? I KNOW! "Final Fantasy", only a fool would think this was some kind of fairy tale
Its called that because its the tale of the ending of fantasy and magic. They literally have a quote about being witness to the final fantasy before the final battle
Mongoloid
They really didn't elaborate any further at all on what Barnabas deal was? Where he originally came from? What his mommy issues were? How he came into contact with Ultima? Disappointing
probably locked behind a side quest. The leaker started to rush toward the ending. Side quest probably have shit ton of information about this setting like FF14
I guess Leaker didn't touch all of those loremaster thing?
The leaker just summarised shit. Its probably much more fleshed out along 50 hours
At least three different leakers have all said Barnabas was underwhelming now, I doubt there's much more to it
I have no complaints about the whole "old historical events fading into myth" thing. It's pretty common and works well.
I only take issue with them being too chickenshit to just say "ok yeah clive survives"
That kind of ambiguity isn't profound or interesting, it's just boring.
you guys are moronic
>Cid dies, Clive takes his name
>Joshua dies, Clive takes his name and writes a book
Hackery/10
What a cool mc stealing names it just need to steal personality like cloud the be the most homosexual ff personality
can someone tell me what happened? i dunno what this is about
STOP BEING EXCITED FOR A GAME I CANT PLAY
>STOP BEING EXCITED FOR A GAME I CANT PLAY
>putting only Nintendo homosexuals
>not the xbot/pc homosexuals
oh wait the jannie is the PC/XBOX homosexual
Barry is going all out now that he found out the absolute gap of how a truly finished game like 16 looks.
I'm speechless lads, what the frick was that second half of the game.
Did Margrace ever explain the two story trophies
>Accept your fate
>Deny your fate
in his AMA? Seems like a big deal
He said you get both trophies in the final boss fight, Accept your Fate when Clive initially seems to give up, Defy your Fate when you beat him
Do we get to see Clive and Jill's kid, Joshua, at any point?
Idk how to tell you this but
live died anon, Joshua survived
Honestly how can someone with a Guts profile pic be THIS much of a homosexual?
Berserk is for numales now
Berserk is for cucks
Resetera is amazing, they seethe about all female games like neptunia, they seethe about female led franchises like Atelier, they seethe about FFXV not having women and 16 having women
absolutely nothing except the side shave girlboss black woman is ever acceptable to them
>Seethes about Inticreates because they make games with cute girls to the point of banning several games
they ban discussion of hundreds of games but never actually make a list because they know they'd look mental
>What's banned
>Everything I don't like besides ugly western games with black women
I wish I was there in this morons childhood so I could see his dad beat the shit out of him
I wish I had saved the picture I saw here a month or so ago. It summarized the kind of desexed castrated male power fantasy that redditor types have. If you ever read Robert E Howard then take Solomon Kane and replace his christian righteousness with a secular anti-bully and that's pretty much it.
Guts kind of exemplifies it, but the fricking literally who on twitter really just perfectly encapsulated their aspiration of a hero. Utterly desexed, no or barely any sexuality towards women, no potentially harmful or flawed behavior, no flirtiness, nothing. Stoic and laconic and selfless. I hate to dab on Tenchi Muyo, but pretty much fricking Tenchi Muyo or Ah My Goddess' dude if he wasn't being mind-neutered by Bellandy and was just sincerely impotent.
This is the reason why people actually had to kvetch about Rex fricking Nia and Pyrra and mythra. Whereas anyone normal finds it funny or endearing how that dorky ass clown shoes motherfricker became a harem chad.
Sorry lads but for magic and Eikons to disappear, all of them would have to die with Clive.
Literally makes no sense for him to survive.
Didn't Clive absorb them all for the final fight
>Clive lives the rest of his live peacefully and refuses to use magic otherwise he would fully turn to stone.
>There are no more crystals so his magical powers start disappearing over time as well
>Fast forward millennials
>DURR BUT WHY DEY PUT SEX IN DA KIDS BOOK HUHUHHH CHECK MATE NONmoronS HEHEHHEH
I’m so glad I’m white
>It's a historical tale set far in the past !!!!!
Okay moron, explain how Joshua got resurrected then?
Or how the blight was stopped?
Play the dlc anon or sequel yoshitpiss already baited it
>joshua resurrection
They named their kid Joshua
>blight
crystals were causing it :^)
Simple, Clive says that humanity will manage and they just did. How moronic you can be? It's an elegant ending, that the event of the past became a legend, or a "fantasy" or some sort. It's elegant and well done.
It makes no sense though. This super race of ayylmaos that can cross stars as ghosts need to do all this convoluted shit to fix it, but medival man just offscreens the issue?
Joshua never got resurrected, it was Clive taking his name or they named their kid Joshua
The blight stopped because magic can no longer exist without crystals
>3 entirely different headcanon trying to explain the same ending
Yeah you guys are totally not coping at all
>3 different
Get a screwdriver and shove it through that temple of yours, maybe you MIGHT become less moronic
All of those are the same interpretations worded differently but you are a hopeless mongoloid with zero reading comprehension
I've seen
>Its all fake
>Joshua lives, Clive doesn't
>Both Clive and Joshua live
>Clive is actually now Joshua and is writing the story
>Joshua is actually Jill's kid and he's writing about his father
And NONE of these answer everything in a satisfying manner. Its a shit ending and you know it.
moron moment
Literally the only right interpretation is Clive living and authoring and honoring Joshua in his name, there is more than enough plot points that point towards this than the others
Would you rather the ending be spelled out to you in crayons and big capital letters, or is even that too hard for you to parse
Do you have proof of your interpretation being right? No? It's a headcanon
No matter what the ending was going for, it's half-assed
>Blight
Off screened
>Bearers
Lol who cares
>Post-credits
These moronic humans are still stuck in the dark ages after probably millennia
>These moronic humans are still stuck in the dark ages after probably millennia
This is probably true too.
You're telling me so much time passes that even a relatively advanced society has forgotten about magic and giant world ending demons; but somehow haven't developed enough to make a fricking lighter.
they can still print perfect books though lmao
Actually yeah what the frick, the society that doesn't know how to light fires is able to print out books?
the crystals are the source of the blight. No crystal no blight. With the apocalypse near the end, few humans may have survived and essentially set back civilization by centuries or thousands of years which made the game events legendary or fairytales
And what about the bearers?
maybe hiding or can't do magick after destroying the crystals
No magic= no bearer
This. Its a shit ambiguous ending. I've seen like 7 different interpretations already.
In HW and Tactics people weren't coping this hard. Because only the minor details were kept ambiguous.
You don't see people arguing whether FFT was all fake or real, you see them arguing on Ramza
>You don't see people arguing whether FFT was all fake or real, you see them arguing on Ramza
Lol what, people were arguing for years if everyone besides Ramza were dead, hell people were arguing if Ramza HIMSELF died
Matsuno confirmed Ramza lived on his twitter and people still don't accept it. idk what that anon is on about.
But...they're literally saying the same shit?
>what is a Phoenix
You people are moronic, honestly
Speedreader-kun, the phoenix literally fully got absorbed out of Joshua by Clive unlike a half baked absorption
He is the phoenix metaphorically, that’s the point. He isn’t dead.
Ultima states the blight is a result of magic use
i just remembered DQ11 did the same ending on top of other examples. why do hacks enjoy the "you were reading a book" twist so much?
Becauae japs thought their crappy writing is bookseller tier
Video games aren't real. You really are just playing out hand crafted stories.
>exposing yourself as moron TWICE
just stop while your ahead
FFXV is still a shit game barry
This looks like one of the best FF just off the leaks alone
Cliveren Yeager and Joshua Arlert
So the real question is: will a DLC or some true ending shit show Clive surviving and returning to Jill?
Of course it will
Then that'd be okay.
If they wanna stick with the stupid ambiguity that only exists to push stupid ass "did they, didn't they" discussions online, then it's lame
I expect Leviathan to tie into how they handle the blight.
Apparently they left the possibility for a sequel, that what yoshida said.
I don't need a sequel.
Just knowing what happens to Clive, Jill (and I guess Joshua) without the wishy washy vague shit.
If they make a sequel to XVI then XIV is confirmed dead and in maintenace mode
Barry won
How? His mission was to sabotage FFXVI and it's all anybody can talk about
Wouldn't this be their Bible and Close be the Jesus Christ of his world?
>FINAL FANTASY XVI book reading
>Joshua: And then Clive screams ILL FRICKING KILL YOU at the top of his lungs as he dances in the blood if his brothers corpse. End of Act I. Now as for a special treat for you kids I'll be reading my unedited 80 page manuscript of my brother having sex with my cousin in full graphic detail!
Shit game.
Both of Clive and Joshua are alive you dumb fricks in this thread. moronic monks. May god have mercy upon your soul idiots.
>Joshua why is Dion gay in this, didn't he marry that nice girl that saved your life back in Rosaria?
>Shut the frick up, it's my book.
>IT WAS ALL MY FINAL FANTASY
Leviathan could be possible for a dlc. I've read here that leviathan is a peculiar old god which ties to the hollow earth theory several months ago with some evidence from the demo with the hollow underground
Certified Barry victory
its kind of hilarious that annabelle is the main villain until ultima hijacks the plot
the game truly was a final fantasy, cant have it any other way
Wait it makes no sense for Clive to survive and have kids, they would inherit his Eikons and alien mythos powers.
But we know they don't exist in the future.
Because the Eikons ended in Clive's generation. It was all part of Ultima's plan and he got BTFO
Would they really inherit his powers though? the crystals are gone from the world and Clive's powers would disappear overtime
But the Bearers don't need the Crystals to do magic?
I think they channel magic via the mothercrystals, so without those Bearers will no longer exist
No, those are the normalgays. Bearers dont need the Crystals to do magic
Joshua survived and wrote the book huh
I missed most of today's leaks, do we ever find out what exactly Ultima is?
A lot of Ultima stuff in FF games lately, XIV is even referencing her/it in its recent patch.
unironically an alien
>do we ever find out what exactly Ultima is?
An ayy.
One of many.
In 16 he's a rip-off of Deus from Xenogears but an alien instead of machine. Deus is a fricking machine but still far better written than Ultima somehow.
You dont see the jobber of cd2 sucking the genitals of deus and calling it mom
And we're going to get midwits for the next years calling ff16's writing the true successor to Gears when it only really matches a few bullet points and has none of the substance
Ayylmao from a race that created the world Clive lives in because they're being destroyed by space aids and needed a way to counter it. The world got too sentient so they're trying to make them moronic again so it can claim their ultimate vessel Clive
>SIXTEEN GAMES
>story is still not finished
what dogshit series is this?
Dresden Files
cat posters, not even once
Trails
It truly is the finalest of fantasies.
Barry won
I find it funny that doomtrannies are forced to pretend they have 0 media literacy and have the comprehension of an infant
Literally pretending to be moronic
>Media literacy is when you use headcanon to try patching up a half baked ending
Yes, keep trying.
>keep repeating headcanon everytime you’re btfo
ask me how I know you’re a Hispanic or some kind of brown
yeah. Imagine pretending to be moronic just for anonymous clout. Or doomers are just insane and stupid.
So nothing ever mattered?
Reddit leaker who leaked all this shit days ago said it clearly Joshua survived and clive died
Because the redditor is moronic and forgot how Clive literally couldn't revive Joshua and that Clive is known to author the names of his fallen loved ones, Jill also wouldn't smile for fricking Joshua when she's mourning Clive at the moment, she would run up to Joshua crying about how Clive died
There better be a true ending or a DLC inbound that confirms Clive's fate either which way.
I find it funny that people now have to defend the dogshit depicted in the reddit leak after furiously denying it for months
>The Final Fantasy
>By Clive "Barry" Rosfield
omg this was a marketing stunt all along, well played Yoshida-san
Bros...its shit...if only we could have possibly seen this coming...
Oh well. Whos else is HOYP for FF XVII???
Here's the Moongazing lyrics you dipshits
>I was looking up at the moon, searching for something
>When I was frightened by the storm (a.k.a. Metia disappearing),
I’m glad it was you who appeared before me
>As if none of this had ever happened,
I know this fire will never go out, surely
Dawn breaks just as Clive returns to Jill, they got their happily ever after
meh. i wish the final scene was Joshua reborn as Clive and Jill's babby, would've been more kino to emphasized the cycle of rebirth and capstone their journey together. joshua not dying at the start unravels the shock value of the demo
We won bros, what an amazing ride
They just need to confirm Clive's survival.
That ambiguity shit is gay. Stick to your guns.
FF tactic did it better.
I know FF and cosmic bullshit final bosses go hand in hand, but, did Ultima really need to Kaguya his way into the plot?
Its a FF tradition
Clive is literally narrating the story so it has to be Clive who wrote the book
Hold on Joshua, who's this Jote character you keep referencing?
Final Fantasy 16 ripped off Digimon Season 3.
when a game literally requires you to pretend to be moronic to have any doomposting material, you know that's grim
>Dont worry Clive, I will take care of Jill aswell, making sure the bloodline continues as much as possible
HOLY BASED
Peak kinography, came back to claim his throne.
He already continued his bloodline with Jote
I cannot believe an FF game is shit, this is unprecedented.
The game is going to score well, you shouldn't expect it not to off screenshots
>score well
Like skyrimschlop? fo4schlop?
They scored well that means you love them, right?
Skyrim sold 60 million, seems like a bad comparison
>sold
And is completely shit.
But that never stopped you from devouring, right?
I don't like Skyrim, this seems a lot better and a completely different type of game
I know, it has a lot more particle effects.
If Clive lived then what the hell was all that star shit about?
There is a red star that is completely irrelevant to the story, I guess? Even though its framed as being important in terms of cinematography?
Jesus christ you dipshit. The star symbolizes a messenger to the gods, it's literally spelled out for you in the ATL. At the end of the game it disappears (carries Jill's message). The powers that be gave her Clive back because they suffered enough.
star is le miracle that brings clive back to life
in the demo jill prays to the star that clive comes back safely and it grants her wish
Jill made a wish to the star for Clive to return alive. The star went out after fulfilling that wish, which is why she was seen smiling at the incoming figure (Clive).
Jill wishes on the star at the beginning of the game for Clive's safe return
It winks out at the end of the game, the sun rises, and Jill smiles as she sees or realises something
Jill made a wish upon a star for beloved to come back to her, more than a decade ago
It disappeared upon granting her wish after the final battle
So what the frick is metia? A miracle happens at the end just because she made a prayer?
Dlc/ sequel
Prayer to Metia
How fricking stupid are you
So Metia is real? And stars can somehow move around because why not?
Why didn't Metia just fix everything at that point you absolute moron.
IMAGINE being so fricking moronic you can't follow a simple anime symbolism
>Le symbolism
This shit is just Xenoblade 3 again. Handwave logic because muh feelings and I'm excited to see Ganker turn against it.
>This shit is just Xenoblade 3 again
Remind me again, how did XB3 end after you spent a year denying an obvious happy end?
Handwave-y logic for a happy end.
It's crazy how Xenoblade 3 and FF16 have similar flaws.
You have this brutal world raised by a god who doesn't want free will for the people, said god and his villain allies all suck as characters. The one good villain (N/Dion) both turn coat and redeem themselves.
>Handwave-y logic for a happy end.
On other words you're still fricking mad an obvious ending ended up being an obvious ending
Get gigafricked
>just conveniently grants her wish in the 11th hour out of nowhere
They have a term for it
DEUS EX MACHINA
OH NO NO NO XVI LITERALLY ENDS WITH DEUS EX MACHINA
Deus Ex Machina AND "It was all a dream!"
and people were hyping this as the most well written FF game lmao
IFRIT EX MACHINA GOD DAMMIT EVEN ULTIMA RACE WERE IFRITS LMAO WHO THE FRICK ITS THE IFRIT STAN homosexual OF CBU3 ?
Dumbass, it's symbolic of the end of an age of magic
The star disappears and the last wish is granted to Jill who truly believed in it
>NOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT
So if Benedikta prayed hard enough, she wouldn't have been raped?
So now the cope is that Joshua wrote the book; which is a re-telling of what happened, but since it would be from his perspective it means shit may or may not have actually happened as is shown.
It was shit when it happened in Umineko, and it's shit here too.
I'm pretty sure anyone with half a brain knows that Clive impersonated Joshua to honor him and wrote the book
lol now thats cope, come on. The story being written by Joshua to honor his brother is kino as frick.
It's Clive who is established to author names of dead loved ones, not Joshua
clive and jill fricking was just joshua's headcanon
>dude what if in this magic world all the magic goes away
i don't like it when this happens
For people who haven't even played the game and are just making their opinion based on some bullet points a marketer and a redditor have provided, you guys sure are confident in your theories.
Japs love symbolism and nuance in their shitty open endings, perhaps waiting on the full story and actually playing the game before you come up with your ideas might be better?
>Yes, officer. My argument is that I'm literally too moronic to comprehend basic tropes.
Just wait for the Ultimania that comes out in a month lmao
Barry is a shitskin Black person who needs to die tbh
I don't think they would have shown Clive alive on the beach if he was fricking dead. They would just skip straight to Jill and the star bit
You're right.
But they're homosexuals for not just committing to a clear-cut happy ending for the two of them.
This, there is no need to show him alive after an event that should have seemingly killed him. We also know that the petrification thing doesn't kill you immediately, only if you keep using magic.
Yeah. But they should've just shown his silhouette walking to her instead of trying to be coy
That's Japs for you, they kept trying to push the fact this wasn't a JRPG and it's more western orientated, and yet the second half of the game is some crazy shit you'd see in the most ridiculous JRPGS, like Xenoblade. They just can't do anything else
>It was all a dream
Truly....the final fantasy
really? yoshitpiss really ruined Final Fantasy what the frick.
>Look, we let you get away with all the other stuff, but we can't publish your book if you insist on keeping in the scene where Ultima turns into Torgal and gets fricked by Barnabas and his army
>tfw that edition eventually becomes that universe's Durai Papers
If they want to leave it open ended, then I will simply say that both Clive and Joshua are alive and well, living happily ever after with their waifus
I am sorry bro but Joshua is pretty definitively dead. Even if he was unconscious (which he wasn't, he was dead, even the phoenix left him), his body would have never survived that and Clive is alone in the beach.
Sorry I'm too busy coping that Jill wished them both back to life
Why has media literacy gone down the shitter?
It hasn't.
Doomtrannies just have to latch on to the least favorable narrative because they're desperate
The younger generations barely read any books. I know I wasn't reading any until 4 years ago. It drags you comprehension down to an insane degree.
modern people are taught not to actually think about media beyond GOOD/BAD or MODERN POLITICS GOOD, so when you say something like [x] did nothing wrong even as a joke you get unironic people seething over it because HURR THEY MURDERED PEOPLE SO BAD
I see this in youtube comments all the time. The modern day person is utterly fricked
American media reduced people into dualistic thinkers.
By design, it’s intentional.
For video game i blame shit like game theory of lets explain.
It's lead to spoonfeeding
.com
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU CAN'T JUST SHOW THE PROTAGONIST ALIVE AND REUNITED WITH HIS LOVER - YOU HAVE TO JUST IMPLY IT AND CALL BACK TO EARLIER SCENES AND MOTIFS
NOOOOOOO DON'T HUG EACH OTHER THE AUDIENCE MIGHT GET SOME CATHARSIS AFTER A 60+ HOUR GAMEEEEEEEEEE
If the ending just showed Clive alive and had he and Jill embrace/kiss it'd be 10/10.
>If the ending just showed Clive alive and had he and Jill embrace/kiss it'd be 10/10.
Agreed. They need to right that wrong.
Play Final Fantasy mode
I mean- hopefully there is a true ending situation here, yeah.
The thing that sucks is that we won't know for a while.
Yoshi-P is a hack. FFIX shits all over this tranime story
I forgot how kino FF9 was.
What happened to VIII and IX that they got such perfect endings, but no other game since can bring itself to do so.
No more sakaguchi. He nailed the last story ending too, meanwhile FF endings after him just kept getting worse and worse.
Frick off. IX aged like dogshit and is aimed for little kids. Read a book, learn media literacy and get help.
>Filtered by a kids game
sad
FF15 chads rise up tonight.
we won,
it was all worth it...
Yoshit-piss btfo
I dislike the ending simply because it's cowardly. Frick your open-ended nip shit. Show who survived and who died.
Oh man FFT will make you so mad.
PLEASE someone tell me if there are gay people in the game
if there are I cannot support this game because it goes against my religion
The game was banned in your country for a reason idiot
dion is gay
barnabas eats out a troony alien who transforns into hugo and his mom during sex
I sure do hope that people think arent thinking joshua actually wrote jill and clive sex or barnabas sucking alien penises.
The book is what happened at its core.
The game (the real story) goes on what actually happened
I know, it must be a joke.
Yes, and several millenia later they still haven't figured out how fire works or improved technology BUT they have forgotten about eikons and magic and crystals BUT they can make copies of books now.
Amazing logic
so what are the odds all the bearers just got culled because they were no longer usefull?
>Barnabas dropped to his knees in front of Ultima, now wearing the form of Benedikta, but in place of Benedikta's mangled petals stood Hugo's manhood, standing tall, proud, and angry. With a lick of his lips Barnabas---
>no wait you don't understand this has to be in there. The people need to know this!
>mmo quality
imagine my shock
It's just hilarious how the shills are trying to damage control the leaker shitting the bed on presenting an already thrash ending.
Its amazing how media illiterate you are.
You guys keep using this term to defend a shit ending when it was your own marketer-kun leaker who misinterpreted the story lmao
>n it was your own marketer-kun
What marketer you fricking moron holy shit how mindbroken have you guys been all these days
Margrace-kun admitted to being in cahoots with Square-Enix in his last thread before he dissolved, like Clive's hand, back into irrelevancy
He said he knew someone from SE which is how he got the digital code. That doesn't mean he works for SE. Every reviewer gets a digital code
Nice cope. Remember it was the leaker gay whose wiener you have so far down your throat right now who couldn't even interpret the ending and you call people who dislike it media illiterate as a coping mechanism lmao
You couldn't interpret the ending because you had too many tears in your eyes
Nice cope, again, the homosexual whose dick you keep riding is the only media illiterate one, the rest of us hate this ending because it is a tired dogshit trope of ...and then, many years into the future, our moronic human descendants think it was all a fantasy.
>muh hecking media literacy
cope and seethe troony shill
Never gonna make it, zelda shill.
Do we have a credits list/staff roll yet for this game or no?
>ending inspires discussion
Oh no no no.......what were they thinking lol......
Can wait xvi -3 with clive dying by BLITZBALL
Do we know how wacky the ng+ difficulties are yet? Or the postgame special stage
I just want to hear some good OSTs is this game
well there's no way you're gonna hear any cuz it's all over-orchestrated, over-produced symphonic trash. not one brass instrument to be heard
>How could you ever misinterpret such a simple and straightforward ending?
>Your honor..... I'm moronic.
I want to see the boss fights they sound incredible
Who narrated the story most of the time? Did someone as margracekun this? Cause that'll conclude who wrote it.
It's Clive.
It was always Clive. Clive was last seen alive and Joshua was even confirmed dead by him, it's not rocket science who Jill was smiling at.
>zidane survives out of nowhere for no fricking reason, deus ex machina
>hugs garnet
KINO
>clive survives due to jill wish to the moon, actually makes sense
BAD
So wait, who's the final boss? Is it really Ayylmos?
It's a troony alien whose entire troony race gets genocided by Clive in the endgame
the final boss was illiteracy and we beat it using the power of the written word
I got a sneak preview, it looks like trash. The stupid PS5 guy kept saying "this is I'm game video" but I know he was lying.
Forget Barry. Did Stellagay win?
To the morons saying
>"no bro it was a LEGEND!"
Why would it be titled Final FANTASY (cringe as frick by the way) if it was a book based in actual history. What a shit ending. The worst of all FFs.
lmao
Who thought this was a good idea?
This is worse than FF8's ending.
All Yoshi-P can do is make derivative Matsuno fan wank. Should've had the actual maestro write the game.
they fricked up honestly with the ending, having a bad ending is a BIG turn off because it makes everything feel meaningless or epic if you pull it off well. No game can be 10/10 without a good ending.
This ending is already bad objectively.
Because it is literally the final events in a world of fantasy, the reality of which is lost to those who will never grow up in it - magic, eikons, bearers, all of those don't exist and may as well never have to the generations after Clive
Holy shit
So are they left to fight the blight without magic?
Blight dies without magic overtime, there's no need to fight it
Strong points for each theories :
Joshua live, the world forget about magic
-His name is on the book
-Clive tried to resurrect him, maybe he succeed with a delay
- he is the personne Jill is seeing at the end
-the character not knowing that magic was real show that clive was right about humanity
Clive live, the world forget about magic.
-His is the narrator of the story and knows details that Joshua or Jill can't possibly have knowledge off
-The main theme of the game's lyric could implied that clive is alive
-He is the personne Jill is seeing at the end
-the character not knowing that magic was real show that clive was right about humanity
Clive and Joshua are dead, the author is clive son
-There is a baby in the end with Jill, this could be and implication that Jill was pregnant for the end of the game.
-the character not knowing that magic was real show that clive was right about humanity
Its all a book LMAO
-the characters are saying that the book is just fairytails
Did I miss anything ?
The strongest one is the the just fairy tales one. All the others require headcanon lmao.
Yeah the whole wish upon a star thing, it makes it kinda obvious it was Clive.
You forgot some strong points for the Clive theory, the metia star for one and the fact that he has demonstrably taken over Cids title in his honour and likely did the same for Joshua since he literally has the phoenix now. Also the fact that they wouldn't show him on the shore if he was dead
What if Jill saw both of them at the end?
For it's all a book:
- Seemingly no technological progress from the ending to the fairy tale.
- Mother calls Eikons and magic fantasy indicating if it was real at least several millenia have passed. But then again, somehow they didn't make technology better in all those years.
How advanced was Mid's ship? even if it was powered by magic she was bound to have at least SOME useful technological know how
>Seemingly no technological progress from the ending to the fairy tale.
without magic, it's heavily suggested that humanity can't do anything technologie wise. they probably regressed to the dark age when clive destroyed all magic.
They can't light fires but can somehow print out books kek
>There is a baby in the end with Jill, this could be and implication that Jill was pregnant for the end of the game.
The baby belonged to the pregnant woman that they rescued.
You stupid fricking morons. Jill wish was for all of them to return home safe. Dion is alived, joshua is alive and even fricking Clive is alive. idk why so many morons in here lol
So there were no stakes whatsoever because she could just wish them back to life? Holy fricking Dragon Balls!
nice headcanon maybe you can keep writing the games story for the devs until is not shit.
THE BABY IS FROM THE WOMAN THEY RESUCED IN THE ASH CONTIENT JESUS CHRIST.
Enough. It's clear Barry has won.
whening are you fools stopping this posting on this stupid MOVIE... so tiring of responding to typing to this stupid MOVIE.... game die for movie...
I almost want to gather all of this particular ESL's posts into one collage for myself and then laugh at it endlessly
doomtrannies are honestly losing it
i feel bad for them
they are losing it together with nintendo. They put their direct exactly the time as FFXVI reviews come out.
They would have roped themselves if not for margrace-kun giving them fuel. We literally got the happy end we wanted.
reminder that FFVII Remake was totally despised here, and now its the best selling Final Fantasy of all time
It's not, you'll set Barry off. Original VII sold 14.1 million. Remake we don't know since they stopped updating after 5 million
>they stopped updating after 5 million
Most recent press release still has it at "over 5 million". That's the official number.
Yeah in 2020. We don't have an accurate number of what it sold in the 3 years since and people got confused by the "VII sold 14.1 million" press bit they did
Yes we do, they literally said it in the most recent press release. There is no better time to give an updated number and they in fact updated the number from the original game.
So either
1. The game didn't reach six million.
2. The game surpassed six million but Square still considered the number so unimpressive they would rather repeat an old vague number so people/investors can cope that they just "forgot" to update the number somehow.
Rule of thumb is that when a publisher stops updating numbers it's best to assume the game stopped selling meaningful numbers. Otherwise you end up with vgchartz style moronic inflation of numbers and outright made up data.
No, that was a bullshit tweet using figures for the original game
Remake is somewhere between 5 and 7 million estimated
..and then Barnabas went down on wet ass alien pussy!
wait alien???
there are aliens in FF16? this makes no sense
Anon there have been plot relevant aliens since FF4.
don't worry is all just a fairy tale
Wait, who summoned liquid flame?????????
Barry won unironically
barry's never won
XIV is cored higher, made more money, and has had more a cultural impact than XV ever will
forspoken was so bad it killed the team making it
xiv has no cultural impact
What was the leaked ending? I missed it. Was it that it was just a fantasy book the entire time or some shit?
Yes.
Big bad defeated, Joshua is dead, Clive barely, Jill's prayers were heard and Clive Dr returns alive, the end.
Jill's prayer to the star worked, Clive returns to her.
Thousands of years later kids are LARPing the book, written by Joshua Rosfield (Clive took on his name just like with Cid). It happened, but to them it's myth like Heracles is to us
I want an FF story to end like this:
>It was actually the Princess Bride style of storytelling and modern day Clive was telling the story to a sick in bed modern day Joshua
>They're all at a library lapping as the characters in the book
>It's was a DnD session the entire time
>but to them it's myth like Heracles is to us
He titled the book FINAL FANTASY
because it literally was the final fantasy
destroying the big crystal marked the end of magic, and therefore the age of fantasy
clive's tale was literally THE final fantasy
We just need them to amend that ambiguity ending and just show Clive returning to Jill outright and it's good.
Learn basic media literacy. The ending we got is god-tier.
>Still coping
What does my post have to do with the ending.
The ending seems fine enough, but I definately would have prefered a 9 style ending.
Nah. They need to not be homosexuals and just commit to a clear-cut, straightforward ending without the gay-ass nip ambiguity.
That's the only flaws.
>media literacy
They were right that this meme is just pushed by morons who defend their terrible taste, it seems.
Unironically this. Just when we all thought Clive was dead the callback to the wish happened. ABSOLUTE FRICKING KINO.
It's fricking trash tier and nothing regarding the blight was resolved
it doesnt suddenly reverse because the crystals are gone
It's Xenoblade 3 2.0
AKA it filters morons, but literacy chads know that the entire story is...
Just an allegory for real world war and capitalism, and global warming. Or something.
>MUH MEDIA LITRACY COPE
kek
this is definitely getting meme'd
If you watch the cutscene its obvious clive is alive because of jill's wish years back pre timeskip. Thats the big final set up and pay off
no bro jill smiled because clive is obviously still dead and she is happy about it
Nothing will stand between her and Torgal now. She's a white woman after all.
No she was smiling because she actually wrote the book and she just received her first check from the royalties.
Aliens won
>Story about a bunch of people with super powerful kaijus inside of them that are used as essentially living WMDs
>main villain plan is to combine all the kaijus into a super kaiju
>Protag Kaiju is actually split into two Kaijus
>main villain lineup changes hands constantly be revealing the current villains was just being manipulated by the next villain until we get to the final boss
>final boss is an ayyylmao who's responsible for all the magic existing and wants to turn humanity into Not!Zombies
>protag loses an arm in the final battle
Why does this game keep making me think of the last arcs of Naruto?
>game of thrones
>evangelion
>gundam
>attack on titan
>northman
>naruto
>dragon ball
what a horrifying blend of inspirations
Don't forget the Xeno and Tales.
Because they haven’t made a decent game in the entirety of their history as a company. The last good FF was X, to absolutely no surprise was one of the last Square games.
Final fantasy mode needs to have a secret ending where we see jill and clive embrace
Ff mode sets up leviathan
>Okay, Clive. Thanks for mentioning Hugo's cuck fantasies. Now tell me about that time you and Jill had sex in as much detail as you can remember. This is vital for the book
What did Joshua mean by this?
Is Barry sucking his own dick or are the doomtrannies homosexuals for Barry's dick now?
They're sucking each other off out of pure desperation
It's a gay orgy fest between the both of them, ironic how they seethe about homosexuals in the game
You shills are the ones sucking off Barry. Literally cannot make a post without mentioning him.
I hope that Barry wiener feels good doomtroony-kun
>mentions barry AGAIN
Obsessed
Barry won so everyone is kneeling
God damn XVI has the worst ending in FF history
Both, an open to interpretation ending allows them to go directly for the wilful ignorance angle of "lmao it was all a story, shit ending"
Expect this for at least the next few weeks until they start getting wound up about 7 Rebirth next
>take out Black folk,
>throw in massive amounts of homosexualry, anal fricking and a homosexual spirit that possesses a broken prostitutes body in some trans allegory.
>Ganker is still swallowing squeenix cum even after lying about ff7 remake, ff15, and this ff16 homosexualshit.
Ganker and finaltards are the most pathetic cucks that i have ever witnessed. absolute c**tcanoes filled to the top with cum, shit and frothing cum-shitfoam on top like some shit-aids-n-piss slushpuppy with whipcream on top.
PS Barry was right.
>YoshiP-sama, was it all just a story? Did Joshua survive? What is the real ending?
>Well, ummmmm, we know what happened, but, well, ummmmm, whatever you think happened is what happened
i want to beat the shit out of this frick for adding gay stuff to FF games and ruining them
Reminder that the entire story could have been resolved if everyone prayed hard enough
Benedikta? Wouldn't be raped
Hugo? Would've had her
Cid? Would be alive
Barnabas? Wouldn't be a degen
Barry ready to dunk on the game after tomorrow's reviews.
Sorry for tripping again. But I feel I kinda need to explain why I interpreted the ending as such.
So Cid and Mid's story arc is all about helping people lose their reliance on the crystals. Cid's entire deal with the Hideaway is that he's making inventions to help people live without them and to teach them shit like actual agriculture.
Mid invents a ground breaking steam boat (it burns mythril, but mythril is just fuel in universe) that is a major plot point in the game. We spend 2 hours of play time helping her build it and it's how we invade Ash.
There are several quests where members of Cid and later Clive's organisation install these inventions in towns. We're talking steam engines and bellows. This to counteract the fact that all the crystals went poof.
What I'm saying is that during the story, technology was already advancing pretty nicely past mudcore. So it just felt very weird to me that so much time has passed that several world wars and a world ending cataclysm has been the stuff of legends but also that the characters in the post-credits are still living in the mudcore age. Not to mention you lads don't know the state of the world at the end. Barnabas murdered most of Ash. An entire continent. Dude waged a genocide. Literally all the countries are gone. Everything is objectively fricked. The Blight is also not gone since Ultima specifically says the Nexus was supposed to unmake the Blight using a spell he had to cast and that their world is doomed regardless.
It may just sound like copium, but it just felt wrong to me in the context of the universe unless it was a book. Anyway, that's my two cents after reading your replies about it.
I also want Joshua and co to have a good ending, don't get me wrong. But you guys will see when you play it. Hoping we'll have cool discussions about it next week when you lads finish it.
I'm split on the ending, but outside of that; the game does sound like a good time.
You’re a blatant marketing shill and all of those “early release tehehe” leaks are outright lies.
>clive literally doomed his bloodline to a dark age
lmao
>characters in the post-credits are still living in the mudcore age
Having a book is by definition not "mudcore age"
Yes, but they somehow don't know about how to make lighters.
Keep in mind a book back then was considered a luxury. A lighter was much easier to come by and make.
It was a basic medieval cottage and they were making fire using flint and tinder. Thing is, their society was already late medieval early renaissance going by the tech Cid and Mid were developing.
Considering we only saw this family in their cottage... I mean, they could be LARPers or mormons for all we know.
BTW some people asked for more specific details so:
The mother did not have Jill's hair colour.
The kids had the same hair colour as Clive and Joshua.
When they played, the first asked what they wanna play. He named a fictional play that Clive played during the game with his Uncle Byron when he was a child. (Which implies this play from that time is also remembered)?
The other kid doesn't wanna play that and wants to play War of the Eikons (based on the book).
First boy says: he wants to be Ifrit.
Second boy says: no fair! I'm the older brother.
First boy responds: Because Bahamut says so! (he refers to their small dog).
Then it pans to the book and ends.
I hate what you people and bots have done to the internet, you’ve ruined the potential of a golden age for humanity filled with freedom and the broken restraints of the material and turned it into yet another fricking marketing outlet.
Burn in a fire you homosexual
These devs probably sat in a room and patted each other on the back thinking this ending was super deep and profound. What a fricking mess.
Learn basic media literacy.
Shut up, Vito
>Basic media literacy
>Leaker literally showcases that the technology timeline makes no fricking sense, unless they actually fricking regressed in technology after stopping magic for some reason.
>Basic media literacy
Maybe you need to start thinking more.
>for some reason.
The leaker in the same post says they’re a genocidal continent spanning war, shut the frick up. Imagine being forced to pretend to be moronic
You’re a literal paid shill as are the “leakers”.
THE ENDING? The entire fricking premise is ludicrous. Who thought that “big monster men like Godzilla and King Kong with transgender alien morphers” was a good idea? I genuinely do not understand how you people can appreciate this it’s making my head spin.
Its kino.
maehiro and Yoshi-P are the biggest hacks to ever live
Do you have any sense of media literacy at all?
>If you don't like this slop youre media illiterate
nice try koji fox
please answer this. How long did it take you to beat it?
My estimate is 55 hours. Problem is the game has no ingame timer so I can't tell you for sure. I'm estimating this based on the time I spent on it.
PS5 have their own playtime built in bro, just check the homepage or the games section of your profile. Stop lying on purpose and just tell us you played it for 25 hours
check homepage. timer should show.
Question for
for you. Do they mention any other countries?
Can you elaborate?
I just checked the game timer. So to see that, you need to be online.
I am not allowed by Square Enix to connect my PS5 to PSN until embargo lifts because if I do, everyone that friends me will be able to see my trophies.
And since I have SE people on my friend's list, not gonna do that. Sorry lads. I literally don't get why it doesn't have an ingame time. Every FF game has one.
Okay, now I can tell you are straight up lying about your playtime.
Why the frick would I lie about something this fricking banal when I spoiled the entire fricking ending to the game?
GOOD ENDING TRANNIES, YOUR MARKETER KEEPS DIGGING THE HOLE DEEPER AND DEEPER LMAO
>It was a basic medieval cottage
if it's was really a cottage then this mean that the scene take place in a rural area, the low tech is then perfectly normal
just take a pic of the characters, it's much easier to look than to describe it like that
Can't replay cutscenes ingame. Also the ending can not be shared on PSN. You literally cannot clip or screencap the game the moment you enter he final chapter. It gives you a warning.
This is one of the reasons I kept taking pictures of the screen. It randomly blocks sharing to prevent spoilers.
>It was a basic medieval cottage and they were making fire using flint and tinder. Thing is, their society was already late medieval early renaissance going by the tech Cid and Mid were developing.
maybe you don't know that Margrace but until recently in human history, the technological gap between populated area and random place in the middle of nowhere was insane. Having a low tech environnement for this scene don't really indicate anything
Nice cope for your headcannon ending bro
>something that objectively true
>"cope"
yeah ok
Or maybe SE are incapable of making a good game that actually makes any sense?
go frick yourself shill I swear the entire internet at this point is bots and shills it drives me fricking insane
CLIVEBROOOOOOOOS????? WTF
Margrace-KEK you already did enough with your bullshit headcanon, you better shut the frick up and stop putting oil on the fire YOU created.
It would seem like I will need to play this for myself rather than have multiple others giving differing opinions based on their understanding of the plot.
Definitely odd, but could the ending bit be literally a rural country family and it was only to showcase the lack of magic? And technology is thriving in cities?
Unless it's a family that lives in north korea, idk how they would've forgotten that Eikon's and magic did exist.
Technology thriving, should by itself have ensured that Eikon's/magic were once implied to be real but according to the mother it's just a fairy tale. It's not like the main game takes place in the fricking dark ages, they are well past the time of hieroglyphs. Hell, the duke literally produces a letter in the opening.
Books are probably not that rare by the time of the base game, AKA knowledge can be stored.
I guess it's possible the world had a "library of Alexandria" moment and 95% of things burned down, but still...
It’s almost like Clive wanted people to forget it existed
YOUR MARKETING-KUN IS BACK WITH SOME MORE FRESH COPIUM FOR YOU "IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD ENDING BRO, YOURE JUST ILLITERATE" gayS KEK
Literal paid shill. The leaks were a lie, and this is all marketing.
Prove me wrong
He admitted he was a marketer.
How were the leaks a lie? You've seen all the screenshots. It's irrelevant whether he works for SE or not, the game is the game
Oh quit the bullshit, we both know you’re an employee. I literally hate you people for what you have done to places like this. There’s barely any regular posters on here anymore because of people like you ruining it by pretending to be regular Joes when you’re more marketing snakes.
I don't work for Square Enix. I know people at SE. This means I can't get in trouble legally. I would just get people I know mad at me.
I am also under no obligation to say good things about the game. I said several bad things about the first 20 hours that I still stand by. I feel 20 hours is too long a time for it to hide things like chocobos and marks.
Lemme check that. I didn't know that. Will post picture. I don't play on my PS5. I got it for free and it has no games besides this.
stop getting baited ffs, stay anonymous and stop getting baited. your job is done. we await rebirth now.
>What I'm saying is that during the story, technology was already advancing pretty nicely past mudcore
yeah but the blight probably destroyed everything and put back mankind to the stone age
>It may just sound like copium
Nah, the true copium is the idiots acting like "it was a story the whole time" is not a popular trope. And seeing as how Yoshi-P was hinting that there could be DLC or a sequel, the "it was a story" seems even more likely because then he can retcon everything.
I like how doomtrannies have to pretend to be sub 50 IQ to downplay the ending. Name 3 endings where it is literally just a book, because I can name 3 book endings where it’s not a fricking book
FFT
VS
FFXIV
Doomtrannies' argument: "I am literally moronic"
Lul.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream
There you go homosexual. Try learning about tropes before pretending like you know anything about writing.
>just a dream
Anon read the trope name. Read it. Is a dream a book?
The dream ending is common. It was le book the whole time, is not, or you can make them.
Put a bullet on your head moron
>it was a dream all along
Is an entirely different trope, usually used for psycho horror or other genres with extremely unreliable narrators.
OH NO NO NO IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE
SO IT IS ALL A MADE UP STORY AHAHAHAHAHAHA
dont feel bad bro. thank for all the posts.
Eh, sounds like how IX's ending kinda ignored how the Iifa tree was gonna kill everybody on Gaia
How can these iliterate mudcore people you talk about able to read joshuas book?
I just think he saw the guy having trouble starting a fire and just assume that the scene is in the darkmud area without considering that just having a book shutdown this theory completely
Anon, the ending is a SUPER fricking obvious parallel to the last scene of FF7. To think "it's just all a fairy tale bro" is so moronic i still don't understand how the frick did you even come to this conclusion.
FF7 literally says "500 years later", there's no debate
And several entries end up with the storybook as well. You need to be a moron to miss the obvious.
lol
FF7 didn't end in 'it was all made up' or 'it was a story'.
It didn't even end ambiguously or strangely, it just showed the world healing.
>FF7 didn't end in 'it was all made up' or 'it was a story'.
FF16 didn't, either.
>It didn't even end ambiguously or strangely, it just showed the world healing.
Neither does FFXVI
>It didn't even end ambiguously or strangely, it just showed the world healing.
No that one was ambiguous.
They even got letters asking to change the ending and people used to hate the ending for how ambiguous it was.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010827161501/http://www.rpgamer.com/editor/1997/q4/122497ml.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20011120213232/http://www.rpgamer.com/editor/1997/q4/101997sc.html
IDK why you want me to start a debate with 20 year old posts.
But I did, and the complaints about plot holes or unexplored things is not related to the ending. It's just because it was a game on a budget, and this gay like so many wanted more.
It's a good ending and it having things left unexplored is not ambiguity, it's that it has to be finite.
>IDK why you want me to start a debate with 20 year old posts.
Its not a debate, the ending was ambiguous.
>having things left unexplored
the game purposely left up the question of whether meteor wiped out humans or not. The team didn't agree on an answer until AC.
Kitase said they were kill, nojima says humanity survived.
>it's a nojima has to fix kitase's moronation again episode
he will do the same with R = U
Humanity did survive... It didn't need to be spelled out. The planet saved them, Midgar is abandoned and they live.
Flash future: humanity didn't go back to destroying the planet. Happy ending.
How do you even come to the conclusion that Meteor could have killed humanity?
You may have a point, but you don't yoshi-p. He hates bad ending. The red star meteia was enough
>It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up! magazine
Either the events of the game destroyed every technological advance made by Mid and her crew or the ending is purposefully set in a rural area to make the fact that magic no longer exists more of the focus of the scene
I'd go for the latter
it was all just a story. It was titled FINAL FANTASY. Its a FANTASY book.
It was a videogame dumbass
It’s called the final fantasy because it’s literally the end of magic in universe
moron. If magic was real, then magic wasnt fantasy it was historical.
>final history
But history didn’t end, however fantasy did. Magic literally existed and then ended. It’s the final fantasy
Are you one of the morons with the gaul to call others media illiterate while saying shit like this?
Seethe Black person
>Gaul
Too late leaker-kun. We have already witnessed your final shilling fantasy. Time to cope.
It'd be a completely different game but I kind of wish we got a story where all the Dominants teamed up as a traditional FF party
I just want this slop to flop, i dont care if its good. It deserves to flop and Yoshi deserves to take all the blame.
Its #1 in several countries, top 10 in several more and is even getting ps5s sold
Who the frick is Barry?
The Ultima of Ganker.
An aboriginal Australian
BARRY
some abo who get mindbroken by XV flopping and getting half its story dlc cancelled while XIV was rebooted and overtook it
unironically some Black person from the bronx that is a final fantasy fan but also critical of it.
>decades later
>VIII, IX and X endings still can't be topped.
based af.
>mainline ff still doesn't manage to have a based mc like Jack or Ashley
What the frick is happening at SquareShit?
Is it explained about about the people can naturally use magic and why they are slaves?
>game isn't even out yet
>Already mindbroken schizo Gankerirgins here
lol
lmao even
There's a difference between an ambiguous ending and one where you can reasonably imply what happened. If you didn't realize the protagonist died at the end of Persona 3 you're an actual idiot, if you're not sure what happened here that's understandable.
Aight that was (aside from vaguewriting about Clive's fate) a good ending.
Promise to have fun further mindfricking the doomsissies, bros.
Claire please save us...
lol
Any deep, thoughtful and refined thoughts about Claire?
Sex with Miss Claire
fake, she's flat as frick
you morons literally see them frick. jill is pregnant.
Barry won.
Barryhaters lost.
Never thought I'd see the day.
Literally one autistic man vs a legion of literal paid shills from SE
Barry lost. FF XV has ZERO sex scenes.
>Verification not required.
how are sex scenes good, if anything it is disgusting
>SEXXXXXXXXOOOOOOO
>disgusting
It’s passé and cheap. Just looking at the scenes with Jill and Clive look out of place and awkward.
It’s trashy. FF utilised courtly romance as part of the heroes adventure aesthetic that can even be seen by Amanos artwork for each game. This is just a tacky low IQ game utilising cliche after cliche and hiding the tardy writing with sex and controversy. The entire setting is fricking awful to begin with, genuinely surprised it got past the initial stages of plot development - God only knows what horrors were abandoned in favour of this games story kek
Reminder XVI has actual homosexual scenes
and XV is nothing but one big homosexual scene
neither does ff16 because its all made up in a book
Jill used dynamis to bring Clive back. XVI really was a reflection.
That was good.
XVI won.
XV lost.
Nocturd just getting dabbed on even more in the grave.
Trash, it’s not even a real final fantasy game
Despite the ending being shit at least Clive doesn't die a kissless virgin who only got to see his love interest for 10 minutes in a YouTube trailer.
Barry won.
Source: me
Additional sources: Barry, me, Tabata
how will doomtroons ever recover from this assblasting?
They won't, especially after 16 will get 90+ on metacritic tommorow lmao
i cant wait for that metacritic to not go higher than 79
Barry is here in the thread with us and he is sucking his own dick along with getting multiple blowjobs by coping doomtrannies
Barry is everywhere. There are no threads without Barry anymore
You gays are mentioning him more than anyone else. Obsessed.
him?
Shut the frick up doomgay barry dicksucker-kun
There's a legitimate barry post in the thread confirming his appearance. Suck his wiener some more
>There's a legitimate barry post in the thread confirming his appearance.
The absolute mental illness. Jesus Christ.
newbie AND a doomtroony
trying to pretend barry/bazz-tek never existed is just as delusional
Learn basic media literacy.
>It was all a dream
>Nothing happened
LAME
"Its just a story" just amounts to nothing. It has no meaning or theme. Its the same as if the game ends with a zoom out of the tv screen and we see a some dude playing the game on a ps5. I mean the world we see at the end may as well be our own it literally doesnt matter because of course the tale is fictional anyway. Its not like its a fake tale in valisthea itself
Yeah i dont get the confusion. If it truly is supossed to be "just a story" then who cares anyway of course it is, the same way it was just a story in princess bride idk
To us is a fairy tale story all the same.
It would suck if we saw something like clive and joshua as kids in rosaria and the whole world was real but they were just pretending to be eikons etc because that would men the world does exist but they are losers
>I guess it was my Final Fantasy all along...
I havent seen any more leaks or anything, but i saw someone mention that Clive likes to take other people name to write shit to preserve them
If thats true, then im sorry but if you think joshua wrote it, you are braindead as frick. Thats not a random detail, thats a way of saying that clive did survived, wrote the book and used joshua name. I dont know how else to say it.
He takes Cid's name after his death.
Yeah, for example he took Cid's name after his death
Ok ESLgay, I'm sure you know best.
Joshua memes are great
>Joshua, why isn't Tyrone in this book? The huge black guy who is built like a brick, but is a giant with a good heart? Why is his gf into you and helping you? Order of what? It was pure chance that he found you and told you about ultima plot. He believed himself to be a warrior of light. In fact I couldn't have won against Odin, if he didn't explain why he was so fricking strong, he also tried to set me up with jill many times, what the frick is going on ano-
>I FRICKING HATE TYRONE. HE STOLE MY TOMBOY GIRLFRIEND. FRICK HIM. I WILL ERASE HIM FROM FRICKING HISTORY. I HAVE NOTHING NOW!!! 18 YEARS OF MY LIFE AND I HAVE WASTED IT
Joshua erases black people out of existence
Also makes Dion gay because its funny
God damn XVI won.
YoshiP won
We won.
Doomtroonies shitting blood and being forced to play at being mentally disabled to cope.
I really have only one piece of criticism for this game so that's pretty good.
Hey barry, if xv is so good why did it get FRICKING DEMOLISHED by FFVIIR in all possible metrics?
nomuragay malding
Kek 15 btfo
Why is everything so bad these days? I genuinely feel like I’m surrounded by literal shit eating morons.
>literally no source since that moron is mixing up og FF7s 14.1m by trying to claim that is FF7R
moron
>HEY BARRY NOTICE ME HEY HEY BARRY I MADE A CHART FOR YOU CAN YOU LOOK AT IT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF IT BARRY I'M YOU'RE BIGGEST FAN BARRY
The frick...
Y'all don't have any media literacy, and it shows!
FFXVI won
YoshiP won
Clivechads won
Jillstacies won
Barry lost
Tabata lost
Noctpiss lost
Doomsissies lost
Easy as.
Nomura chad here
we won too
Unironically top 5 FF. Legit feels like classic jprg stuff from the 90s
Schizos having a meltdown.
Not only is it a good game, it's bringing so much deranged asshurt.
It was a book.
Nothing happened, it’s not real. It’s fiction. Spike lived at the end of cowboy bebop, too.
gid si turubg spoeakjiung on this estuopid fricking movie fricking fools
I am a full believer that Clive is alive thanks to Jill's wish. But the whole "media illiterate" shit is kinda cringe and reminds of some shit twitter would say. It's also kinda pointless since these people are purposely misinterpreting the ending, if they can muddy the waters they will, margrace-kun running out of brain cells the VERY LAST second also didn't help.
Yes
It's fine though, I am a giant romancegay and I am looking forward to the fujos cranking out post canon fluff fics and doujin
Clive is definitely alive
Yeah, but we want them to commit to that. Just go full hog happy ending and give people that catharsis.
That's for the DLC
I have hope that maybe the final fantasy mode will do that, after all the name also links back to the book at the end. If not maybe some dlc.
How would doomtrannies react if they watched the wizard of oz. It’s clear the ending isn’t a made up story but it’s hilarious that doom Black folk need to debase themselves after they’ve already taken so many beatings.
cant believe doomtrannies are forced to pretend to be so moronic they make pledditors look intelligent
humiliating
a fitting fate.
now the leaker on the other hand…