>pic related is supposed to be OoT Link who teaches TP Link because he regrets not being remembered as a hero
>despite people explicitly bringing up the Hero of Time in TP
>despite knowing a song that was only in WW
>despite being freakishly more huge than Adult Link in OoT
Uh-huh.
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He doesn't regret not being remembered, that is literally Historia headcanon. He regrets being unable to pass down his sword skills, which is why he promptly moves on once you learn them ("Go and do not falter, my child"). It is a parallel to Kamaro, from Majora's Mask, who was unable to pass on until he got to teach you his dance.
and the only Link who was previously taught skills was the hero of winds on outset island, little did we know the old man incited a tradition
The Hero Shade isn't the Link from Wind Waker dumbass. There's a shit ton of evidence pointing to OoT Link being the Hero's Shade. Just from the top of my mind:
>98% of the songs he sings, come from OoT/MM, one song comes from WW and one is original to TP
>The game talks about the Hero of Time over and over. You have the Light Spirits talking about him, Midna also mentions him, random npcs at Telma's bar talk about him, there are stone tablets about him telliing his story, Renado (that one shaman from Kakariko) also mentions him, there are paintings of him on the walls leading to Hyrule Castle, so on and forth
>He is TP Link's ancestor. And TP Link knows Epona's Song, a song only avaiable in OoT/MM. That and he already starts the game with the horse.
>Webm related
>Twilight Princess takes place after Majora, not Wind Waker
WW Link's entire thing is that he had no relation to any Link prior, he lived in the middle of an ocean and went on to find a new continent. WW Link has no horse, has no connections to most of the songs that the Hero's Shade sings or the story of Wind Waker.
And that's not to mention that (for better or worse) both Historia and Encyclopedia confirm him as being OoT Link.
>Hero's Shade does the Z-target shuffle
Holy shit I must've blocked this out of my memory
>the story of Wind Waker
*of Twilight Princess
dammit
so the songs aren't admissible in court because one of them is from wind waker.
with all the mentioning you would think the hero's shade would come forward one (1) time and they don't.
>TP Link's ancestor
proof?
How is TP Link playing epona song a point in your favor? it's a song horses and cows like, they link that tune, so Link plays that tune, he uses a fricking piece of grass to play that tune. he starts with a horse?!
he STARTS?! with a HORSE?!
holy shit, hero shade is Ocarina of Time Link confirmed?!
next time how about you shutty if all you got is nuttin, if I wanted nuttin I would play a game with Midna.
>so the songs aren't admissible in court because one of them is from wind waker.
One. A singular one is from Wind Waker.
>The very first song he plays is from Majora's Mask. The Song of Healing, only OoT Link and the Happy Mask Salesman know this song.
>The next song is Requiem of Spirit, from Ocarina of Time. Again, a song that ONLY OoT Link, Zelda and perhaps Nabooru knew.
>Then you have Prelude of Light, also from Ocarina of Time.
>Next, you have Goron's Lullaby, that only 3 people from Termina, an alternative dimension, and OoT Link, knew.
>Finally and ONLY THEN, you have a singular song from Wind Waker, the Ballad of Gales.
>The final song is the main theme from Twilight Princess
There is an obvious pattern here. You have 6 songs, 4 of them come from OoT/MM and are songs that ONLY the Hero of Time could logically know. 1 is an outlier and one is a new song and the main theme of the game.
>proof?
The individual pieces of the Triforce (Wisdom, Power and Courage) can be passed down through lineage, which is why the Triforce of Wisdom is commonly found with the Royal Family.
TP Link inherits the Triforce of Courage though his bloodline, as he starts the game with his piece already within him (much like Zelda typically also inherits her Triforce of Wisdom throughout her bloodline).
We know, as a matter of fact that, OoT Link had his piece of the Triforce still with him until the end of OoT and nothing in MM implies that he lost it.
In contrast, Wind Waker Link lost his triforce of courage at the end of his game. Then he never even cares to get it back again, if we go by both Phantom Hourglass (a game with the same Link from Wind Waker) and Spirit Tracks (which takes place 100 years after WW/PH).
And that's not to mention that the Hero's Shade himself says he is related to the current hero. One of the Light Spirits also tell you that.
>There is an obvious pattern here.
one of the songs is one he cannot possibly know, so the songs aren't proof they're invalidated, moron.
And again, what you're trying to do, just undermines what Wind Waker is about and what he tried to do. Wind Waker Link lives in the middle of the ocean. Again, he has no horse. He doesn't know any of the songs from OoT or Majora (and quite literally can't learn some of them)
>Again, he has no horse.
oh god no, oh frick me sideways
hero of winds doesn';t have a horse?!
holy shit oh my god almighty.
anyway.
He starts with EPONA. Not any horse, EPONA.
He know Epona's Song, a song that was composed by Malon's mom, and that, at least at that point, only Malon, Link, Talon and Ingo (most likely) knew. That's 3, maybe four people who knew how to sing that song.
>he uses a fricking piece of grass
Yes, and? He still knows the fricking song, much like the Link from OoT, that is what matters. Wind Waker Link, does not know this song as he probably doesn't even know what the frick is a horse in the first place.
And again, there are no horses in Wind Waker, nor in Phantom Houglass, the only two games where the Hero of Winds shows up, and try guessing why?
Because there was a fricking flood of biblical proportions and now most of the world is covered in water.
>He starts with EPONA. Not any horse, EPONA.
it's A HORSE
YOU CAN NAME IT ANYTHING
you absolute
believable
haven't played the game in years
moron.
kys, get hit by a car, die in a fire, but just perish from the earth. honorably and perhaps with gusto.
And you can name link anything moron, doesn't make him not link.
it would make him whoever you named it,lol
but it's not the same horse, that would be physically impossible. you can forgo dying by fire that was rude of me, but you must die somehow.
Of course it isn't the same horse, dumb motherfricker. But it is still a horse, named Epona, and he still knows the damn song you literal moron. Which WW Link doesn't.
then who taught him the song, that he plays with a blade fricking grass, just because the horse likes it and comes to it
What about his parents? Dumbass.
My point is that the song was passed down, same probably applies to the horse (the original Epona) and it's offspring, eventually reaching TP Epona.
It's the little details
Holy shit you morons in denial that it's oot link. Fricking ww link hasn't even been born yet. It is so obviously oot/majora link
He is visually a stalfos. In oot and in no other game if an adult human goes into the lost woods they are said to become a stalfos. You go into the lost woods as an adult to go to the forest temple. Therefore that link eventually is doomed to become a stalfos. The Majora's mask stages of grief theory is legit. You don't see link go back home to Hyrule. Hero of time vanishes from the timeline and is lost in termina. Some portion of his spirit eventually reaches Hyrule and can pass on his sword skills to tp link.
One timeline theory or bust frick that gay split timeline shit. Makes no sense.
I didn’t say it wasn’t OoT Link, only that him knowing Ballad of Gales does not discredit him being OoT Link
>he’s a stalfos
He isn’t, he’s a ghost. Stalfos are skeletons, Hero’s Shade only has a skull face while the rest of his body is in tact
>Intact
He's got exposed ribs too anon
His arms and legs have sinewy bits on them but is still a skeleton man
He's a ghost, not a Stalfos. Pic related is what a Stalfos is meant to look like in TP.
Also, he only shows up as a golden wolf in the normal world, and only turns into his humanoid "skelly" form in what seems to be the Sacred Realm.
Here's the Hero's Shade for comparison
and now OoT Stalfos
Yup. I don't see any bones, outside of the skull face. It's all ectoplasm limbs
I mean it would not be the first time in the series that we have seen a model for one race look all the same except for a handful of notable npc's that look different. Like all the weird Ikana Stalfos in Majora's mask or variance between Dekus and Zoras in the same game. You bet your ass they wouldn't just leave a stalfos meant to be a former link looking identical to the generic enemy version. If you want proof within Twilight Princess just look at the non generic Gorons you see with the elders and patriarch or King Bulbin or Midna and Zant vs the normal Twili.
Your both wrong, he is a redead.
He has the bluish zombie skin over a thin wasted away body and the one red eye like the tp redead knights have.
I never said it wasn’t stop projecting your insecurities homosexual.
>mass replier doesn't read the thread
please, pay attention next time.
>Fricking ww link hasn't even been born yet.
the hero's shade is the hero of winds, who hasn't managed to teach anyone his sword skills yet. deepwee regert
I would like to see your reasoning as to why it is hero of winds somehow from the future of tp's world.
ww takes place before tp
In the shitty hh timeline it is on a different timeline. But I personally don't buy into the hh timeline. I subscribe to the singular timeline theory. And one thing I easily notice in tp is that the world is not yet flooded. Making it take place before ww.
No, it doesn't.
>"The Wind Waker is parallel. In Ocarina of Time, Link flew seven years in time, he beat Ganon and went back to being a kid, remember? Twilight Princess takes place in the world of Ocarina of Time, a hundred and something years after the peace returned to kid Link's time. In the last scene of Ocarina of Time, kids Link and Zelda have a little talk, and as a consequence of that talk, their relationship with Ganon takes a whole new direction. In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time. Ganon was sent to another world and now he wants to obtain the power..."
quote by Aonuma
Here, have another
>"In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time."
Fricking moron.
Pretty much.
yeah, there's no way that the hero's shade isn't the hero of wind. those rascals went off and forgot the lands that made them legend and established new hyrule.
average wwgay
>because he regrets not being remembered as a hero
You didn't play the game at all did you, you fricking moron?
Does anyone else love the clear reference to Conan the Barbarian? Am I the only one who sees it?
>despite knowing a song that was only in WW
The songs are just easter eggs
his sword skills are exclusive tothe hero of wind, however
the helm splitter and the roll behind slice whatever its called, those are hero of wind moves, and that Link never taught anyone else despite having a master to teach him skills
>game sells poorly due to poor marketing, alienating artsyle, and being rushed
>reuse engine for next game so work on that game doesn't totally go to wastein spite of shift to realistic artstyle, and reuse some moves from that game to flesh new game's combat out.
WW is my favorite Zelda but shut up.
that's not an in-universe explanation, how about you shut the frick up
Ballad of the Gales is only in Wind Waker but that does not mean it was invented in the Adult Timeline
It’s supposed to be a song by taught by Cyclos and presumably known to the royal family given he recognizes the wind waker, so OoT Link knowing could also mean he encountered Cyclos in the child timeline
>despite being freakishly more huge than Adult Link in OoT
I still love this part, his height in TP is fricking insane. I wanna see fully grown OoT Link when he was alive.
so when they gonna do a game where all the links and all the ganons just have a smackdown brawl? seems like cheating to have two eternal heroes vs one eternal vilain
Oddly enough, there seem to only be two incarnations of Ganondorf himself. All of them are the same guy, with the exception of the Ganondorf in Four Swords Adventures.
Which Link would you say 'Dorf hates the most?
Has to be OoT given he's the big reason he loses in both timelines by either rating on Ganondorf's plan or beating him in combat and getting him sealed away. Double so if Ganondorf knows beating him lead to a timeline of him winning.
I thought he regretted that no one learned from all of the shit he did. Because everything is just happening over again.
>WWtards this desperate
Must be rough being the worst 3D Zelda, a TPchad like me just wouldn't understand.
Twilight Princess is a bad game that shouldn't be taken seriously
Proof?
Its a retcon.
Doesn't the manga prove that it is in fact OOT Link?
While the manga isn't canon, yes, it makes the very obvious interpretation of the Shade's identity explicit.
>Link couldn't possibly have learned more techniques throughout his entire post-child OoT life
Twilight Princess is a good game that should be taken seriously
There's a lot of cool shit in TP, the problem is the progression is way too slow
frick no, replaying it right now and everything about the game hits right. go back to it once you're done with BotW and TotK and see what I mean.
are all the zeldas playable on pc with emulators now? i dont really play anymore but this thread is giving me some pretty heavy nostalgia
Yes easily. If you can run a switch emulator then you can play the entire series. I would steer you away from the hd versions of some of the games though.
Oot up to you if you want og or hd but I would say you should play the PC port that is out.
Don't touch majora mask hd, ww hd, tp hd
Only. Play skyward sword hd to avoid the waggle.
Get fricked emulating the ds games as they are still shitty to play and frick ugly
Gl anon
nice. ty friend. have a blessed weekend
why is TP hd bad?
I hear this a lot, but i don't think it is actually true. You can get into that first dungeon in about 20 minutes if you know where to go and what to do. Not as fast as ocarina of time or Zelda one, but a hell of a lot faster than majora or skyward sword and I never see them receive the same shit for it. Tp is linear sure, but aside from a few edge cases in ocarina of lttp all the games are linear as hell. I don't really see it as a downside when even the few instances of you being able to tackle dungeons in whatever order often involve intentionally disregarding the signposting the game gives you to try and push you towards one dungeon first and at the worst times involves beating a dungeon halfway for it's item and leaving to do another. Doesn't really feel very nonlinear at that point. But here is my hot take: linear games arent bad by nature. If you think they are I dare you to go play some open world trash and reassess your shit opinion.
Who beings up the hero of time? It'd be absurd because in the Twilight Princess timeline his legend was not fulfilled, he and Zelda narc'd Ganondorf before he could do anything, it is Wind Waker that references him constantly.
While they never call him "Hero of Time" (besides in one stone tablet found in Kakariko's graveyard) they still talk plenty about him.
Isn't the reason why he's what he is, is because he couldn't stop looking for Navi?