this >download it thinking it might be a good way to socialize >go into a room >realize I am as afraid of joining a conversation in VR as I am in real life
also 50% of the time I went on it was mostly squealers
>"being myself" hasn't ever really gone well for me, thats why interaction is so hard
This. So much this. "Being yourself" is a fricking scam. Society is fake and everyone acts like that accordingly to fit in.
>"being myself" hasn't ever really gone well for me, thats why interaction is so hard
This. So much this. "Being yourself" is a fricking scam. Society is fake and everyone acts like that accordingly to fit in.
Have you tried pretending to be someone with a likeable personality, someone you'd like to spend time with?
Ask yourself, would you spend time with yourself given the choice? Probably not, fake it till you make it
>Have you tried pretending to be someone with a likeable personality, someone you'd like to spend time with?
I used to be able to do this quite easily when I was younger but now, I feel dead on the inside. Forcing a smile on my face is hard.
if I talk to people with a fake persona, then whats the point?
Every waking hour Im with them I'd be obsessed with making sure all my bases are covered and that no light shines through the cracks like Im ms fricking doubtfire
as much as I hate being alone, I feel like I'd 100% rather be alone then put on a dumb fake personality. I already do it at work, I don't need a second job
>also 50% of the time I went on it was mostly squealers
This. There's tons of kids in VRchat. I don't want to speak to children or have them be around me when I'm trying to socialize unlike most people who play that game.
eac and the client ban did literally nothing against the average player
the players autistic enough to be in modded vlient circles were just poud that they couldn't use them
Be racist, and yell at dumb women, and brits, aaaand pick on furries. Maybe get a girlfriend, or two??? or THREE? xD
Also make fun of candy asses who bought VRChat + for two pictures.
Most zoomers aren't even aware of Second Life, it was banned off Twitch years ago. Meanwhile VRchat's popularity can be traced to streamers overreacting to anime booba and meme avatars. You can also argue the VR element makes up for any areas that it lacks compared to SL.
Stuff like Discord pretty much murdered any virtual chat environment and most MMOs. It's not surprising a lot of them don't look into this kind of stuff beyond surface level.
>Stuff like Discord pretty much murdered any virtual chat environment and most MMOs.
How? Even in the 2000's AIM, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, ect were still very popular and webcams existed back then it didn't Stop games like WoW from being relevant
2 years ago
Anonymous
Changing social landscape and convenience. Not a lot of people are at their computers as much as they were back in the 2000s, and because of smartphones the need for a more mobile-friendly chat client arose. It's easier to just have Discord running in the background to access your friends than to get on WoW and start playing a game if you want to socialize.
Banned off Twitch? Why? I mean, aside from the porn shit but that I imagine could be the same in VRChat?
What's VRchat's monetization? If its just that subscription optional shit that's fine, but I am wondering their long term plans if they're going to start charging for everything or selling virtual land or worse NFTs, certified avatars or something? The more they lock it down and or allow people to create but then take a cut of their creations, the greater a concern it is they'll make player unfriendly decisions to keep big money rolling in.
I think the VR aspect and high fidelity/graphics make it desirable over Second Life for many zoomers, but SL players got to enjoy the powerful creation tools that were relatively easy to use, but I've not checked in for quite some time.
Anyone who was looking to socialize and generally frick around in a game, with or without VR if they're not up for VRChat or just want a change, check out Tower Unite - https://store.steampowered.com/app/394690/Tower_Unite/ - its kinda like a VR "hangout" or resort with lots of minigames and shit to do, but all free! I've popped in every so often and it seems the devs really make an effort and its easy to import even custom stuff on Steam Workshop.
>What's VRchat's monetization?
They just released their premium subscription service
2 years ago
Anonymous
SL was banned because of pornographic material that could pop up during ones stream. Yes VRchat suffers the same problem but the difference is that its popular so there's a incentive to keep it on. Zoomers don't know nor care about SL so it wasn't a hard decision. Also this happened years ago before Twitch was filled with e-prostitutes so they were more strict about sexual content during streams. >monetization
Originally they were funded by VR investors because Its a killer app. Tons of people bought headsets solely because of VRchat videos they saw on Youtube. More recently they've offered premium subscriptions.
Ahh, if thats their only monetization that's cool. Subscriptions are fine. I was wondering if it was more SL-like where if users create something they can sell it in game for "game credits that you can exchange for real money" and the VRChat devs would make a lot of their money based on cuts from sales of user created content, avatars etc.? I am a bit concerned that if they were given a lot of money early on to be the VR killer app, that it will run out some day and they'll add other revenue streams. If its just the subscription that's fine, but I've seen this setup go bad before where venture capital basically carries everything while they get users and then it goes to hell after they get popular and try to pack their wallets.
>but all free! >13,43€
The DLC and in game stuff is all free, plus user created mods. The $15 (when not on sale) buy to play price for the game itself is really reasonable I'd think and it goes on sale for like $6, so there's not much to complain about I'd think. f
SL was banned because of pornographic material that could pop up during ones stream. Yes VRchat suffers the same problem but the difference is that its popular so there's a incentive to keep it on. Zoomers don't know nor care about SL so it wasn't a hard decision. Also this happened years ago before Twitch was filled with e-prostitutes so they were more strict about sexual content during streams. >monetization
Originally they were funded by VR investors because Its a killer app. Tons of people bought headsets solely because of VRchat videos they saw on Youtube. More recently they've offered premium subscriptions.
I just got VR last month and I don't know how an aspie like me can make friends? It seems like everyone already has their social circles, if I try to socialize they ignore me, I don't know where to go to find the cool areas or games to make friends and only go to the recommended lobbys they have which people are already in their own circles.
I have a Valve Index full kit (knuckles, lighthouses, HMD)...what else are people using for VRChat in terms of specialized hardware or software? You see all those videos of people petting their anime waifu or furry or whatever the frick and are they using some sort of advanced haptic gloves or is it mostly just standard VR type controllers? Same thing with full body movement and all - is it simulated from basic VR kit or are people using a whole frickload of additional sensors or LeapMotion / UltraLeap3Di for hand tracking or something?
I've been considering getting a VRM format avatar one way or another to play around with this shit and use it for VTuber use as well, so it seems VRM is better than Live2D in this regard, since it can be used for both VRChat and similar as well as VTuber streaming shit, but it looks rather complex to either make from scratch or edit an existing one - and the fact there aren't a whole bunch of decent masculine male avatars out there makes it a bit more difficult.
full body is vive trackers/tundra trackers/slime trackers/other obscure tracking methods
vrc doesn't support VRM (?) but I think it's simple to convert
uploading a avatar can be as simple as opening the unity prefab and clicking upload, or learning and becoming proficient in 3d character modelling then scratch making your own from the cube up, or anything in between.
>Vive trackers, tundra tracker, slime trackers
Any idea which of these are best? I rather like that Slime is open source all the way down and probably Linux compatible, but they seem to work a bit differently on WiFi signalling vs using the lighthouse like Vive / Tundra do. Seems like Vive was the original, Tundra is the upgraded version.
>avatars
No VRM? For some reason I thought that was the standard you could frick with it in Unity and export or whatever. As far as avatar creation, any suggestions?
vive trackers (3.0 > 2.0) > tundra trackers > slime trackers = other obscure tracking methods
they are "best" to worst in that order although tundras should be "as good as" vives but I've heard mixed things plus they're not even that cheap now.
avatar "creation"? I don't know if you know what you're asking. Either you know how to 3d model or you buy one and learn how to 3d model by editing it to your taste.
Maybe some avatars for purchase come with VRMs it just isn't the workflow.
I play VRchat an unhealthy amount. It doesn't affect my worklife or familylife and while i still see real life mates i feel i spend too many weekends getting drunk and having fun on it.
I got a vr headset a few months ago purely to hang with my friends in vrc, then the devs dropped that anticheat bullshit a month ago, now they don't want to hop on anymore.
Troons in VRChat are WAY MORE THIN SKINNED. Calling the obvious man voice 'he' or 'man' is enough to send them off of the handle into a full-blown melty.
It's a game with user generated content, and most people buy models premade which are severely unoptimized being able to consume over a gig of VRAM PER AVATAR.
I'm too shy
this
>download it thinking it might be a good way to socialize
>go into a room
>realize I am as afraid of joining a conversation in VR as I am in real life
also 50% of the time I went on it was mostly squealers
Just be yourself bro
"being myself" hasn't ever really gone well for me, thats why interaction is so hard
>"being myself" hasn't ever really gone well for me, thats why interaction is so hard
This. So much this. "Being yourself" is a fricking scam. Society is fake and everyone acts like that accordingly to fit in.
Have you tried pretending to be someone with a likeable personality, someone you'd like to spend time with?
Ask yourself, would you spend time with yourself given the choice? Probably not, fake it till you make it
>Have you tried pretending to be someone with a likeable personality, someone you'd like to spend time with?
I used to be able to do this quite easily when I was younger but now, I feel dead on the inside. Forcing a smile on my face is hard.
if I talk to people with a fake persona, then whats the point?
Every waking hour Im with them I'd be obsessed with making sure all my bases are covered and that no light shines through the cracks like Im ms fricking doubtfire
as much as I hate being alone, I feel like I'd 100% rather be alone then put on a dumb fake personality. I already do it at work, I don't need a second job
>also 50% of the time I went on it was mostly squealers
This. There's tons of kids in VRchat. I don't want to speak to children or have them be around me when I'm trying to socialize unlike most people who play that game.
if you get on unholy neet hours you can avoid them
This is still my experience with 140 hours in, I know how to avoid squeakers though
isnt it dying what with the latest anti cheat update
no people just talked big game and then ate vrchat dev's shit anyway after the devs made it clear they wouldnt budge on the issue.
eac and the client ban did literally nothing against the average player
the players autistic enough to be in modded vlient circles were just poud that they couldn't use them
I just did last night
What is there to do
Be racist, and yell at dumb women, and brits, aaaand pick on furries. Maybe get a girlfriend, or two??? or THREE? xD
Also make fun of candy asses who bought VRChat + for two pictures.
I guess this is why I haven't gotten further than looking at Vkets.
Its Second Life for zoomers, if that doesn't appeal to you then don't bother.
Which is sad because Second Life is still better but the interface filters too many brainlets (which coincidentally is most of vrchat)
Most zoomers aren't even aware of Second Life, it was banned off Twitch years ago. Meanwhile VRchat's popularity can be traced to streamers overreacting to anime booba and meme avatars. You can also argue the VR element makes up for any areas that it lacks compared to SL.
Stuff like Discord pretty much murdered any virtual chat environment and most MMOs. It's not surprising a lot of them don't look into this kind of stuff beyond surface level.
>Stuff like Discord pretty much murdered any virtual chat environment and most MMOs.
How? Even in the 2000's AIM, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, ect were still very popular and webcams existed back then it didn't Stop games like WoW from being relevant
Changing social landscape and convenience. Not a lot of people are at their computers as much as they were back in the 2000s, and because of smartphones the need for a more mobile-friendly chat client arose. It's easier to just have Discord running in the background to access your friends than to get on WoW and start playing a game if you want to socialize.
Banned off Twitch? Why? I mean, aside from the porn shit but that I imagine could be the same in VRChat?
What's VRchat's monetization? If its just that subscription optional shit that's fine, but I am wondering their long term plans if they're going to start charging for everything or selling virtual land or worse NFTs, certified avatars or something? The more they lock it down and or allow people to create but then take a cut of their creations, the greater a concern it is they'll make player unfriendly decisions to keep big money rolling in.
I think the VR aspect and high fidelity/graphics make it desirable over Second Life for many zoomers, but SL players got to enjoy the powerful creation tools that were relatively easy to use, but I've not checked in for quite some time.
Anyone who was looking to socialize and generally frick around in a game, with or without VR if they're not up for VRChat or just want a change, check out Tower Unite - https://store.steampowered.com/app/394690/Tower_Unite/ - its kinda like a VR "hangout" or resort with lots of minigames and shit to do, but all free! I've popped in every so often and it seems the devs really make an effort and its easy to import even custom stuff on Steam Workshop.
>What's VRchat's monetization?
They just released their premium subscription service
Ahh, if thats their only monetization that's cool. Subscriptions are fine. I was wondering if it was more SL-like where if users create something they can sell it in game for "game credits that you can exchange for real money" and the VRChat devs would make a lot of their money based on cuts from sales of user created content, avatars etc.? I am a bit concerned that if they were given a lot of money early on to be the VR killer app, that it will run out some day and they'll add other revenue streams. If its just the subscription that's fine, but I've seen this setup go bad before where venture capital basically carries everything while they get users and then it goes to hell after they get popular and try to pack their wallets.
The DLC and in game stuff is all free, plus user created mods. The $15 (when not on sale) buy to play price for the game itself is really reasonable I'd think and it goes on sale for like $6, so there's not much to complain about I'd think. f
>but all free!
>13,43€
SL was banned because of pornographic material that could pop up during ones stream. Yes VRchat suffers the same problem but the difference is that its popular so there's a incentive to keep it on. Zoomers don't know nor care about SL so it wasn't a hard decision. Also this happened years ago before Twitch was filled with e-prostitutes so they were more strict about sexual content during streams.
>monetization
Originally they were funded by VR investors because Its a killer app. Tons of people bought headsets solely because of VRchat videos they saw on Youtube. More recently they've offered premium subscriptions.
I just got VR last month and I don't know how an aspie like me can make friends? It seems like everyone already has their social circles, if I try to socialize they ignore me, I don't know where to go to find the cool areas or games to make friends and only go to the recommended lobbys they have which people are already in their own circles.
You get drunk then do sexual favors for the popular people so people tolerate you like everyone else
if they are in public lobbies, their social circle isn't closed
>spend 1500 euros to hang out with shallow homosexuals that abandon their friend groups every 3 days
I already play it every day, anon
but i am not a homosexual
/trash/Black folk begone
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Already do, gonna have sex with my vrbf tonight
post it.
>easy anticheat
More like easy-drop.
Someone post the video of two men fricking already
these are some ugly ass avatars, have a nice day TDA Black person
I have a Valve Index full kit (knuckles, lighthouses, HMD)...what else are people using for VRChat in terms of specialized hardware or software? You see all those videos of people petting their anime waifu or furry or whatever the frick and are they using some sort of advanced haptic gloves or is it mostly just standard VR type controllers? Same thing with full body movement and all - is it simulated from basic VR kit or are people using a whole frickload of additional sensors or LeapMotion / UltraLeap3Di for hand tracking or something?
I've been considering getting a VRM format avatar one way or another to play around with this shit and use it for VTuber use as well, so it seems VRM is better than Live2D in this regard, since it can be used for both VRChat and similar as well as VTuber streaming shit, but it looks rather complex to either make from scratch or edit an existing one - and the fact there aren't a whole bunch of decent masculine male avatars out there makes it a bit more difficult.
>.what else are people using for VRChat in terms of specialized hardware or software?
Tenga
pleb tier, get an onahip
full body is vive trackers/tundra trackers/slime trackers/other obscure tracking methods
vrc doesn't support VRM (?) but I think it's simple to convert
uploading a avatar can be as simple as opening the unity prefab and clicking upload, or learning and becoming proficient in 3d character modelling then scratch making your own from the cube up, or anything in between.
>Vive trackers, tundra tracker, slime trackers
Any idea which of these are best? I rather like that Slime is open source all the way down and probably Linux compatible, but they seem to work a bit differently on WiFi signalling vs using the lighthouse like Vive / Tundra do. Seems like Vive was the original, Tundra is the upgraded version.
>avatars
No VRM? For some reason I thought that was the standard you could frick with it in Unity and export or whatever. As far as avatar creation, any suggestions?
vive trackers (3.0 > 2.0) > tundra trackers > slime trackers = other obscure tracking methods
they are "best" to worst in that order although tundras should be "as good as" vives but I've heard mixed things plus they're not even that cheap now.
avatar "creation"? I don't know if you know what you're asking. Either you know how to 3d model or you buy one and learn how to 3d model by editing it to your taste.
Maybe some avatars for purchase come with VRMs it just isn't the workflow.
https://sirenwatcher.writing.io/posts/importing-vrm-to-vrchat-guide-10-steps-including-dynamic-bones-breast-physics-extra-outfits-expressions-and-linux
>avatar "creation"?
Avatar uploading
Looks pretty convoluted. Compared to other platforms I used where I just upload the vrm on a website.
>vrc doesn't support VRM (?)
The frick?
I play VRchat an unhealthy amount. It doesn't affect my worklife or familylife and while i still see real life mates i feel i spend too many weekends getting drunk and having fun on it.
No I'm not interested in talking to zoomer teenagers. I'm too old.
CHILLOUT BETTER
NEOS BETTER
YOUR PLATFORM IS DICK EATS
I got a vr headset a few months ago purely to hang with my friends in vrc, then the devs dropped that anticheat bullshit a month ago, now they don't want to hop on anymore.
Have you guys ever noticed that the most easily annoyed people in this game are black people? It's like grow a fricking spine holy shit.
das rascist
No I'm not
They just get easily bothered for some odd reason
Troons in VRChat are WAY MORE THIN SKINNED. Calling the obvious man voice 'he' or 'man' is enough to send them off of the handle into a full-blown melty.
>play vrchat again after a few years
>it's overrun by Black folk, trannies and kids
not surprised tbh
>Game ran alright 3 years ago
>now it runs like shit
whats the deal?
It's a game with user generated content, and most people buy models premade which are severely unoptimized being able to consume over a gig of VRAM PER AVATAR.
No