With EU5 Paradox has caved in to shit taste normoids who just want more time to blob (even though they never play until the end date) and want meme late-medieval alt-his instead of early-modern kino. Enjoy waiting 200 years for colonization and reformation, by which point half of Europe will be a player blob.
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Hopefully there'll be a 2nd start date like CK3 but for some reason the forums get absolutely furious at the idea
eu4 has multiple start dates
Every EU has multiple start dates, what a moronic thing to complain about.
and every single start date after 1444 is fricked because balance issues
>2nd start date like CK3
2nd start date in ck3 is fricking awful, they should've gone for 1187 instead of 867 which is literally all fantasy
the pops alone mean that an additional startdate is bound with an incredible amount of effort
If the game goes all the way to 1836 a second date would be a great idea. Maybe in some date around the end of the XVI century.
Maybe starting in the seventh century for a similar feeling to the early start date. The general crisis, 30 years war, little ice age, the deluge.
Yes. It would be a great way to flesh out some more mechanics and events like the Thirty Years War. Which is supposed to be a huge pivotal moment in the History of Europe.
finally being able to play as Wallenstein would be kino
Yeah that would be kino af but we all know it's going to be one start date only.
>the deluge.
the what
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history)
Swedes (and Russians, but mostly Swedes) having a joyride through Poland, reducing its population by a full third
i will never forgive the swedes
i find it rather amazing that despite the fact EUIV players are seething about Project Caesar to no end. Anons really believe Johan is pandering to... EUIV players, lmao. When
Johan dared to mention population and communication efficiency these people started seething and are still seething. It's not "fun" to them. How can they blob if there country is actually hindered by random blobbing?
who are you talking about? trannies from the forums?
Paradox pulls constant 180s on their design choices under conflicting narratives, it should be hardly surprising that everyone is confused
>try to convince morons why development is the best thing ever to buy EU4
>decide to try something else, now the morons are confused
Repeat for
>warfare
>navy
>supply systems
>economy
Etc
99% of the redditplaza subhumans know nothing about history so their only reference is paraBlack person games and what they're used to
>>try to convince morons why development is the best thing ever to buy EU4
eu4 didnt even have development on launch though
Are you tilting at windmills, buddy?
>someone makes a thread "'Anti-blobbing' is a Bad Approach to Game Design"
>gets absolutely shit on
no
trust the plan
as long as they don't listen to eu4toddlers the game will be good
When is FTG 1.3's start date? I recall it being pretty similar.
>Enjoy waiting 200 years for colonization
This is good, I hate how you can scramble for Africa in the 1600
>eu4troony already trying to derail the thread
let's not pretend you're not part of the gays that defend mana and who cried about westernization
go back to your gayass steam group, robbie
how do you always stick out like a sore thumb
>The troony is still posting
you should stop seething already moron.
sorry. you will never be a real woman and Project Caesar will stop you from blobbing. Simple as.
can you please point out this "medieval communism" comment again and really explain it this time.
euV bros... it's true... communist states in muh middle ages...
Johan isnt just talking about the medieval ages when he's making this statement moron
>Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under socialism, it’s precisely the opposite.
I was initially under the assumption that the game would drag into the early Victorian era when I saw this post though I suspect the developers would be barred from doing that due to Victoria 3. Did Paradox ever specify an end date for this?
>those 4 downvotes from butthurt commies
I guess the setting is a bit early for anarchism.
im sorry but im convinced it will be shit like all modern paradox games
time to reveal it. this was all me. i have been having a schizo fight with my inner demons that manifested in the thread about map games.
As long as EU5 is a pooptastic experience, I have nothing to complain about.
i know, reality is a harsh pill to swallow. Being undeniably male must hurt your brain.
I will keep enjoying euv dev diaries and there is nothing you can do about it
Enjoying the V3 thread experience?
>vic3 troony and euV troony vist the same thread
you guys should kiss like the homosexuals you are
After the timely release of Vicky 3, and the absolute poopsplosion of joy that I brought me, I never thought there was anything that could top it. But then, something pooptacular happened. Johan began his “Tinto Talks” and as time went on, the poospects of this game being EU5 became even more likely. My bowels were filled with poo, to the point where keeping inside me that brown goodness became a task of Herculean effort. I will keep holding, but when EU5 finally releases, the poop WILL flow.
/vst/ was an error.
This thread is what taking a stroll through Birmingham feels like
It lacks the muslims and random schizo hobbos.
See the posts above they literally are here
EU3 required time and effort to blob and you couldn't just blob whatever you felt like whenever you felt like
being able to just build up blob mana so you can invade whoever you want is the worst thing they did to eu4 and I'm 100% positive they'll make it even stupider and easier in eu5
Not as much time and effort as it will take for me to pooptastically empty my bowels of poo when EU5 is finally released!
mysterious how all the best paradox games have a few hundred players top all time
swedes and paradox especially have always been effeminate servile cucks so it should be expected that the game will ram modern billionaire-managerial class propaganda down your throat while pretending they're just "on the right side of history" and being apolitical.
i just want to jam
I just want to poo, and when EU5 is gloriously released I will be able to. I’m already pooping right now just THINKING of it.
>mah mass immigration
How do you frickar think Europe come to be inhabitant exactly? I swear pale Jeet and Latinx can only see their delusions and ignore the fact
excuse me sweetie. indo-europeans are a myth perpetrated by alt-right okay? cool it with these racist remarks.
Maybe you can somehow reverse mass migrations of Turkic tribes into Yurop. Or Yurop migrations into the Americas. If you just disable it in the game. :^)
the reformation starts with the hussites moron
Depends on the definition. But Hussites are usually considered proto-protestants along with older movements like Waldesians or Lollards.
Roman Catholics are the original Protestants because they split away from the one true holy apostolic and catholic Orthodox church.
>verification not required
Based
bravo johan
>What execs?
Full rogue
The gsg to end all gsgs is coming
Johan my king
O CAPTAIN! MY CAPTAIN!
>Johan making the game he's always wanted and riding off into the sunset
unfathomably based
Bitch, he's the exec.
So that's why it's called Project Caesar.
Johan killed all senator-Black folk. Bravo.
Excecutives don't give a frick if a game is easy or hard they care if people play it or not.
If the Devs and Marketing say that hard game good they make hard game.
If the Devs and Marketing say that easy game good they make easy game.
People blame executives for the moronic decisions of devs and marketers.
The execs push the devs into a specific direction. They want the most people to buy the game and often mistakenly believe that an easy game means more people will buy it. Marketing then just has to come up with convincing lies to sell the easy game.
Anon the devs are also fricking stupid. Look at Victoria 3.
Nothing I said disputed that fact.
Execs just don't get off free either.
what execs?
>"what execs"
part of the aforementioned lies
It's not difficult to make a hard game.
Anyone can cook, but only a few will ever be good at it.
Video Games - Strategy?
bros i just want to see the european culture map mode
He's going to make blobbing in the early game very difficult
You did see massive expansion in the 14th century, namely done by timur, maybe blobbing will be limited by ruler skill
Early game blobbing could just end up being more trouble than its worth. If you blob too hard, you'll end up being destroyed. Also sort of like the Timurids
that would be kino
>johan throws a random jab at communism
>moron with negative reading comprehension understands that he's adding communism to EU5 and decides to spam the board proving his mental deficiency
You gays are even dumber than /vrpg/.
>You gays are even dumber than /vrpg/
>Johan talks about peasants being able to move from province to province if serfdom laws allow it
>Anons start sperging about ~~*mass immigration*~~
It’s not possible that they’re this stupid. It’s clearly discord trannies spamming the same coached phrases. Same shit with Dragons Dogma 2.
No point in even commenting about the game anymore, just let all threads die until the moron gets bored
reminder that the non-White discord raider seething at imaginary ESLs aka Whites is a newbie (as if that was not obvious)
if you have english as your first langauge you are not white simple as
i think the keyboard being even gayer than the last is a bit more embarassing than having a german key layout...
he's lying
it's the same keyboard lmao
no it isnt, look at the cable
embarrassing
>seethes all day about ESLs
>owns ESL keyboard
>le IQ maps
So Asians are the master race now?
it was better when you were crying about pooland instead of the balkans
After a decade or so he finally noticed that Prussians were Poles.
that's like saying england and germany are the same place because english and german are in the same language family
And there are the /gsg/ no reply migrants who come every so often and while they're annoying you also either get used to them or start ignoring them and they give out (You)'s eventually.
>Victoria 3 had historically inaccurate mass immigration
And telegraphed it for the entire development period. They didn't hide it away in vague statements as they wanted to attract the kind of community they attracted.
>Are you trying to poison the well or are you genuinely thick, lad?
Poisoning the well doesn't mean what you think it means or at the very least doesn't make sense here and no I'm not thick. No need to be rude mate.
Mate, I asked if this was "based kek mein bruder" stuff earlier and I thought you were being genuine but sorry for disturbing you.
I'm imagining an indian pretending to be british
the frick is happening in this thread
I'm not even sure what Johan said that set the schizos off and caused them to turn on you, guys.
>the schizos
It's just one dude
I recognize at least 3 different types of posters from V3 threads. I wouldn't cope like that.
There is one, obsessed with "trannies" and "esls". Poo poster isn't here, he had some actual ingenuity in his posts.
Discord troons.
>troons
don't say that word
it sets them off
What "ahistorical mass immigration to Europe"?
Can we talk about the video game now?
>MFW Johan shills and Discord groomers continue to job and cannot debate based anons
All they have to do to make this good is make early blobbing hard and give empires a real reason to lose territory. Main reason everyone quits so early is because you snowball quickly and have already solved the game for your nation.
Frick off shill
Nobody is triggered, angry or even annoyed, just amazed at the sheer scale of moronation in display.
lulz > kek
newbies get out
2016 oldgay here.
You /gsg/ newbie seem to be adamant on providing even more amusement.
Is it worth it?
This game is going to be good, and I am looking forward to playing it.
This is the most painfully unfunny thread derailment I've ever seen on /vst/. At least that "Dutch" schizo who was convinced that political murders are just
>a job
was funny to some extent.
>he's STILL upset about being called a well poisoner last year
I can't wait for that ancient israelite to die and for his dipshit son to take over.
I don't know, why do you keep bringing it up completely out of the blue? The only reason you'd do that would be because you're still mad or hyperfixated like some kind of pathetic autist.
It's so funny that you ran the joke into the ground around a year ago, broke through into the basement and started drilling into the Earth's crust.
Is this the part where you reply to me four times in a row and pretend that you aren't blatantly samegayging?
Of course you'd know what a discord server type post looks like. Go back.
>it was all just one guy
no fricking way, right?
>went from 300ish posts to 132
jesus christ
now i understand why the nazis wanted to euthanise autists
God fricking damn it, it was one single Black persontroon
Removing the IP counter was the worst decision ever
>poo poster doesn't get banned
Jannies?
the poo poster was the inevitable reaction to the rest of the homosexualry that was deleted from this thread
>christcuck obsessed with India and China isn't banned
pagancucks... amirite fellow pedos?
shut up, just shut the frick up, don't start some moronic /misc/ tier e-convert shitflinging
Jesus fricking christ
These people are a disease.
Reading the thread it's 100% a /gsg/ shitpost.
why must they subvert everything
why can't gays and Black folk and feminists leave at least 1 game out of their fricking shit
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-7-10th-of-april.1662356/
Sliders are back! Johan Won!
>interest income
Based I can financially conquer europe
>I can larp as a israelite in EU5 and conquer Europe through interest.
Based
Johan talked about non-territorial entities like trade leagues. Maybe you can also play as bankers like the fuggers :DDD
>me playing as Florence when that homosexual king of England refuses to repay my loans
frick It I'm booting up divine wind
Good good.
homies about to play Imperator: Rome - 1337 Edition.
>homies about to play Imperator: Rome - 1337 Edition.
A mixture of eu2, eu4, and Imperator is exactly what I want. Extremely based.
keep seething eu4toddler
you will be FILTERED by sliders
you will be FILTERED by pops
you will be FILTERED by economics
and you WILL cry
Akchsually my favourite Paradox game is Vicky II + HPM.
What now?
>wizdrones trying to damage control they hardest
Vic3 never be a real strategy
>Lower nobility tax to zero
>Lower clergy tax to zero
>Lower burghers tax to zero
>Increase commoner tax to maximum
>Increase minting to maximum
Hell yeah its gaming time
After playing Vic2 I'm actually convinced we shouldn't have power to granularly control this by 0.1%. Seems like too much state power for the era and people don't need 1000 choices anyway. But Johan said there'll be button to automate it so let's see how it'll work.
Based.
forumdrones are already trying to remove sliders
y tho?
Because they are a bunch of casuals who want the game to play itself
because they're gonna get filtered
low IQ
For the sake of "le meaninful choice".
ah the wiz school of game design
Johan is interacting too much with this thread. I hope they don't break him.
What percentage? I hope they don't frick this up.
I still have no clue how exactly research worked in EU3 tbqh
There isn't much to understand
>technologies have a cost and date associated with it
>you pay for it by spending money
cost increases due to:
>not having western tech group
>inflation
>having more provinces
>researching tech ahead of time
Sliders and modifiers also changed tech cost. And one national idea.
Why does this include minting? To hide the bad smell or what
>income from selling food
Agriculture actually mattering for once?
It'll be interesting how viable importing food as a playstyle will be. Seems like Johan is already thinking about fun ideas for city state/trade league gameplay from all of the economic reveals so far, and the inclusion of microstates.
We really need more info on trade though, hope it comes next week.
Not so fast.
He's right though. Literally when have you ever set army maintenance in EU4 to anything other than 0% or 100%?
Plenty of fricking times. Not much if we compare it to the times that I did not, sure, but surely you wouldn't be moronic enough to think that I should lose the ability to have my army work at half of its strength when I deem it necessary? I do agree on the forts, but ideally you would be able to both use a slider for that and individually disable. These people are talking as if sliders are some sort of great nuisance or ridiculous idea that only harms, but really even in the worst case scenario they just cover up the screen and that's it. If you ask me he first got the thought that he hates sliders and then tried to work up a reason to justify it, and he's probably a homosexual that can't play the games properly.
Many times. Since you don't need 100% to deal with small rebel armies.
Holy fricking casual
I've never really played EUIV much since it's just a mana management simulation but I love being able to roleplay as a welfare state or fairly middle of the road or as an ancap paradise in vic 2. I don't really understand why having an optional feature, especially if you claim to know what's optimal already, is such a hassle. Just adjust the slider to what's "optimal" and then leave it there if you don't want to bother with it instead of trying to ruin it for everyone else.
people struggle to roleplay. if an optimal option exists they will just use it then complain about balancing instead of trying to challenge themselves or work towards a goal.
forumgays struggle to roleplay
how hard is it to just not metablob for 5 seconds
Name one thing you can do in EU4 other than blob.
start wars just to scorch muzzie lands and make them go bankrupt and collapse
build a market in your capitol for the boys to buy and trade silks and spices
vassal blob
uninstall.exe
roleplay
>start as Florence
>try to roleplay as an eternally loyal princely state and ally of the austrian emperors
>focus in the mediterranean without blobbing and always support them during wars
>they eventually rival me anyway because the AI always autistically wants 3 rivals and I was the only available option after I helped them destroy several of their old ones
Fricking Paradox
mission trees made that even worse because >now the AI will get a permaclaim on one of your bumfrick nowhere shitholes
>will mark it as vital interest
>break their alliance with you
>immediately set you as rival
You could have conquered some land in the Americas.
>inb4 blobber
The Medici actually wanted to send some expedition to America, same with another Italian state I forgot (Tuscany?) but then wars happened and when there was peace all the most important places were already claimed, anyway.
so he wants a button to move the slider rather than moving the slider?
Let's hope Johan doesn't listen to this moron.
Who's side should I be on?
Johanshills want you to like Caesar because it's allegedly nu-MEIOU, yet sliders are as anti-MEIOU as it can get without implementing actual mana.
sliders are better than whatever the frick the meiou 3.0 tax system is
MEIOU tax system is based, immersive, and filters map painting babies from the genre
Increase tax slider in Caesar
>+10% tax revenue
>+5 unrest
Increase inheritance tax in MEIOU (there are 14 different tax types btw)
>general decrease in well-being of the population which causes higher unrest, lower life satisfaction, and lower population growth
>population has less money so trade, production, autonomous investment, infrastructure maintenance, and military spending decline
>unhappiness of the estates increases corruption and lowers their participation in your government
>increased emigration and decreased immigration
>income directly affected by autonomy, state corruption, provincial corruption, estate corruption, estate relationship, estate obligations, administrative system, tax system, and tax collection method
>taxes can and will be siphoned by the estates, which will use it for their own needs, e.g. funding an army for a rebellion against you
>(there are 14 different tax types btw)
Is that supposed to be a good thing? Ultimately I'm still looking to play a grand startegy game not Democracy 4 tbqh.
it doesn't really matter since you can automate taxing and it's better than you
>lets create a system where 99% of players will just let the ai handle it
great game design
The ai will handle fully optimised immigration (ie: making sure the borders are as open as possible to let moslem pops in) at least
Yes, microing armies is the most annoying part of paradox games.
But that's the fun stuff.
yeah and i must admit its the mode best total conversion mod ever existed for eu4. i dont care about fantasy Black folk, not gonna learn your chivalrious lore and gazillion fantasy races
It's a grand strategy that involves strategizing the taxes
Because just like IRL, the locals of a province might lack funds or the vision to make the right investments, so by the end of the day some sort of central resource-pooling and decision-making.is still needed.
Estates in MEIOU invest based on their own interests, e.g. the nobility is unlikely to invest in urban amenities.
Automatic optimization was implemented specifically for babies like you thoughever.
>Automatic optimization was implemented specifically for babies like you thoughever.
It was intended for everyone. Manual delegation has been deprecated for a few versions now. It doesn't do anything.
oh hey christo
Damn, for a mod called MEIOU & Taxes, taxes sound awfully shitty. Why would you tax anything when you could just let them do all the shit instead?
>every year an algorithm calculates the most optimal tax setup for you and changes it
>immersive
Hasn't Johan said that half of that will be in, though?
cristo WILL win
>unhappy estates pop rebels
>unhappy estates provide no armies
sounds like fun
>just don't be le evil tyrant bro
git gud, simple as
whats cristo has to do with meiou anyway? i thought hes just a youtube shill but he made some submods too it seems
economy? what is all this boring nerd stuff. where are the map screenshots?
mapbros will be eating good soon
>second half of may
not good enough, give me the let me see the holy roman empire NOW
>an entire month
kill me
How close is release if he can pump out dev talks like this? Or is it like yandere simulator where all they are doing is working on the tinto talks?
it's been in progress for at least four, five years now, but they're still a ways out
they're deliberately doing them relatively early on compared to what they've been doing, so that they can actually use the feedback that they get as opposed to sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending that the community loves everything that they're doing (see Imperator 1.0, Vic 3, a number of later EU4 DLCs, etc.)
at least, that's what they're saying
>Age of Renaissance
Nooooooooooooooo gamey mechanics are still in
art didn't exist before the renaissance
Johan confirmed that EU4's ages system will not be in the game. Now the question is what exactly is the new ages mechanic and how does it tie in with the simulation design philosophy? Any ideas?
I don't know but I hope things like the renaissance/printing press/industrialization aren't strictly locked by time and region
No
I HOPE they're locked down to Europe
Renaissance/Printing press/industrialization should be locked to Europe, but Africa, Asia, and the Americas should get their own equivalents.
Imagine your homeland in Europe is going through one age, while your colonies in the Americas are going through another, and the native tribes have to choose how to respond to your colonies and have different age paths associated (Europeanize, go full Sioux and take the fight to the west, or try to get out of the way).
That's a pretty interesting idea honestly, would love to see that implemented.
>native Americans are locked in the stone age forever
There's no way they'd do that, it'd be too based
Read again. It's basically:
>Iroquois/East Coast tribes path, try to assimilate colonial knowledge and culture while building a nation recognized by Europe (this failed due to War of 1812 in our timeline), basically westernization path
>Sioux/Comanche path, reee get the frick off my lawn white devil, low tech guerrilla warfare with traded/stolen guns, after this path concludes you can start reforming into a modern albeit turd world nation
>Trail of Tears path, get as far away from colonial powers as possible and try to come to diplomatic concessions
Not all of this needs necessarily be interesting to the player, some of it is for the AI. Trail of Tears path especially, which is effectively a failure state.
Also I guess you'd need ages for before the Colonials come. This could easily be how Sunset Invasion comes about.
>Americas get stone age followed by horse age followed by iron age and then westernisation at the end if they mange to survive.
>China does not have ages at all and instead have the mandate of heaven system, high mandate gives massive happiness while low mandate allows teach spread.
>Japan does not get normal ages they get cycles of openness with massive tech bonuses followed by isolation with massive happiness bonuses.
>Africa might be able to unlock the wheel if they build super tall.
there's probably going to be some historical mode (institutions spawn in europe) and free mode (they may spawn elsewhere)
I know they teased naming of Eastern Rome/Byzantium thingy but if they bring ck2 (ck3?) style full rule set settings to eu5 that would be kino
he literally confirmed that culture spending is locked behind renaissance
>Having some buttons for just a few possible options for taxes or expenses, like in Imperator, is not really fitting for a GSG with deep economical gameplay.
Bravo Johan!
He's finally learning, thank frick
>It was all one poster.
Mother of Christ.
> that sell surplus food they can not store in their local market.
We're getting some king of internal market mechanics.
>Fort Maintenance
Forts are still in too.
>Age of Renaissance
And the ages system is still in which honestly I don't mind. What happens if Byzantium doesn't fall and Italy is wrecked by wars, however? Does it still kick-off?
> Maybe maybe we should cut down on our fleet, and maybe we don’t need ALL those forts. Our standing army of 200 brave footmen is enough!
1000-man regiments might be gone too.
Can't wait to abolish taxes.
New slop diary just dropped, get in here
>if there is no food in the market, they can't buy.. if you can't trace a safe path to the market center, there is no food transaction.
already a better economic simulation than V3, wiz on suicide watch
retvrn
anno 1503 remaster announced????
That's bad windmill placement.
Frick it, I'm hyped
is there going to be a DD every wednesday until the announcement?
Looks like it.
Is this the ugliest UI of all modern PDX games?
nah looks already better than ck3 and vic3
someone will release a eu4 style ui mod in a few weeks anyways, the UI is my only big complaint with the dev diaries tbh
I don't think it's going to look like that in the finished game
Hopefully it'll look less like EU4 (new and bad) and more like the pre-EU4 games (old and good)
eu4's UI is kino thoughever
>eu4's UI is kino thoughever
Kino would be if they added a 2D portrait system for advisors and monarchs stylized, like CK1
>wanting your advisors to look like sims monstrosities
Its a placeholder
income vs expense
So there's basically no trade. Sad.
What do you mean?
>tax is 4 separate sliders
>trade income is just one number
What else would you expect? Separate sliders for how much trade the clergy are permitted to take in versus how much the commoners are permitted to do?
The state doesn't trade, the people do. You're just taking a cut in the form of tariffs.
>trade income
>trade expense
>buying food
>selling food
>basically no trade
we will have to see
I can't believe there won't be trade, that's half of what the rise of Europe in this time was about
Looks simplistic as frick
MEIOUgods it's so over
>income
>interest
are we going to be able to play as the israelite?
I hope so.
Johan said you can make money from giving out loans
So yes
Can't wait for my florence into netherlands into britain into thirteen colonies run.
I don't get how selling and buying food works there. Surely the state doesn't pay for buying food for its citizens?
I imagine just like in meiou you'll be able to boost stability with food donations for the plebs
>/gsg/'s OP post says eu5 will never be good
Why has Johan mindbroken /gsg/oids so badly?
those morons will probably start insisting that mana was a good mechanic after this game releases
The only people still posting in /gsg/ are literally mentally ill.
Has been that way for ages. Even back when I was active in /gsg/ on 8hate chan the majority of Ganker /gsg/ posters were braindead nutters.
>the more clerics you have the more your state stable
Based opium for masses.
what would marxs opinion be on modern identity politics?
Modern dyed-in-the-wool Marxists despise the modern flavour of idpol because it's being used to distract from class consciousness and is very effectively keeping the proletariat divided and fighting with each other.
>Modern dyed-in-the-wool Marxists
Most of them died out eons ago however. Aside from old commie orgs who are as relevant now as during McCarthy the vast majority of the Western left is the idpol left.
they're only mad because they're not the ones dividing the proletariat and making the proletariat fight each other while they're setting up their marxist dictatorship
the proletariat needs to be united in order to incite terror against capitalist institutions and install the marxist dictatorship in the first place
in theory, yes, in practice no
oh, you're american
no, all you need is a vanguard party
not under capitalism, as you would actually need a peasant majority in a country otherwise marxists would just get btfo
no, you're the amerimutt here, moron
Time to blockade the English in the middle of a famine
I don't think so Jerry
Holy based. Are the navies going to be relevant for the first time?
maybe? hopefully?
>navies helps
ESL moment
So what happens if a tiny shithole completely starves to death? Is it possible to straight up delete countries by destroying their entire population?
No matter how bad famines get they can't just turn an area into a desert
The population should just drop until it gets to an equilibrium again
that would be so based
so many opportunities for cleansing undesirables
saving this
it will 100% not be possible in the game, he just made it up
To starve a non-city state island down to zero? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Eventually, it'd reach a pop-to-food equilibrium even if millions must die for it to happen.
If food production can drop all the way down to zero, then it should be possible. Would be pretty hard to make happen though unless it's a one province island
Cities don't produce food apparently. So if you turn all your locations into cities and then get blockaded you will die.
it's obviously a manufactured scenario with a player involved, so why wouldn't it be real? why wouldn't a player tag switch to an island, nuke it's food tag back and then blockade it? like if you're an aboo, you probably rely on fishing anyway
not true (but true)
I post there to harass the local fauna
Why did the whole no reply thing start anyway?
It originated in the (You) famine of '15
It became common practice because it filters out brainlets who can't follow a conversation
no replying is stolen from jp or something
is what someone might say but in reality it's just schizo doomposting
Hoping we get the ability to tax by province since that could be cool with the immigration mechanic
taxation level based on skin color would be kino
>on skin color
At that point religion was way more important than race. And yes, there was a religion tax.
at least the christpedos are all contained on /gsg/
164
weep
This will unironically be the best game paraisraelite will have released in over a decade
Does that mean it will be good? No
But it will be better than all the other slop titles
>1337
Why? 1453 was perfect really. And even then the game couldnt emulate the early modern/nation state period correctly. But it was passable. Now they add 100 years of late middle age stuff with radically different social/military/political structures that will clash with the later part of the game.
>Why make a new game and innovate? It will be shit anyway! Just make old one and uhhhh...
It was explicitly told that the game will go from levy to professional
>1453
moron who didn't play a single run of eu4 due to seething butthurt about eu3 now will explain how to make eu5
Great
still find it hard to believe they're allowing Johan to build a game that on paper goes against every modern paradrone staple.
Johan rules tinto like a king, and it's a separate studio
>Allowing bloody mass immigration of Moslems and Nogs to white cities in 1337 is going against modern day Paradox staples
The bar is that low for you people, huh?
>listening to morons
That makes you a double moron, Anon.
Why so defensive, shill?
I'm not. Its English that hard to understand?
yes and immigration from north africa to paris too kek
>implementing the diggers
based
only if i get the option of executing them all instead of sending them to commimerica
No, Johan88 already debunked communist theory
also communist society is feudal society, cope seethe delate etc
id rather not cope with jotrans new team of feminazis at paradox tinto shitting up games with a modern day agenda thank you
The Tinto team consists exclusively of white autistic males.
Wrong, it’s being led by a Sonia Linares Martinez. Shit is cooked lmfao
Is that true? nooooooooooooooo
You wish, but they're Cucktalonians, the wokest Spaniards.
>misspellings and broken english
jotran employing literal poojeets to astroturf his game kek
Here we go again
the mong woke up
I thought the samegayging shitposter would be banned for more than a day.
Sadly smartphones brought ban evasion to the computer illiterate zoomers.
>giving the troony (You)s
you are part of the problem
It's a /gsg/ Black person I believe. I recognize that bit he's doing, although legitimate broken English has become much more common in the last few years.
I do generally agree about the date though. I'm playing a MEIOU game as castile right now. I wanted to do a big colonial game. Finished the war of two peters and now I'm mostly sitting around waiting for the exploration techs to come around. Is there any special trick to getting the Aragon Castile PU or do I need to wait for an event? I think in vanilla you need monarchs of a different sex and a royal marriage but I'm not sure,
Don't worry bro I'm developing a gsg that is mostly focused around heterosexual rape.
So EUV is releasing in Q1/Q2 2025, right?
Vic 3 took a year and half from the first dev diary so it might release in September/October 2025
I suspect it will be later than that.
In the first "Tinto Talks" Johan mentioned that dev diaries for the last games were too late in development for feedback to be implemented.
With the Project Caesar dev diaries the idea was to change that which suggests that they aren't as far along in the dev cycle.
then they will listen to the forumgays and make the game catered to trannies and gays
claim the free EU4 DLC "Women in History" today!
Based mods
What did they do?
They removed countless shitposts done by one schizoidal newbie who thinks talking with himself is le epic trollin
It's free entertainment
Robbie isn't a newbie, he's a /gsg/ schizo mad that no cares about /gsg/ anymore now that we have this board
nothing changed when this board was created because /gsg/ hasn't been about games in a long time
wonder if they may make it so that portugal getting to Asia the faster way will actually negatively impact all the economies between outer asia and western Europe this time
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based troony janny doin gods work
That's why he's getting paid
Hold on, I just received updated information that the janny isn't compensated for his labour. This doesn't make sense, why would subject themselves to hours of scrubbing excrement online for no money at all?
Holy frick Johan mentioned in the forums that Victoria 3 was in production at the same time as Hoi4.
HOW!?
I thought this was common knowledge? Back when Victoria 3 relesed Johan commented it had become a stale project inn 2015 but it was supposed to be a modernize version of Vicky II with new ideas for mechanics(with Johan at the lead iirc)
Since Vicky II never sold well and it was not that popular, that project was abandoned and eventually in like 2018/2019 Whiz started a new project, wich is what we have today as Victoria 3.
>it was supposed to be a modernize version of Vicky II with new ideas for mechanics(with Johan at the lead iirc)
vgh... what could have been...
research should be automated, random inventions will pop up on the map just like institutions spawn now, and with money you'll be able to acquire that technology and the modifiers it brings, ofc most of it would happen in Europe. The spawn rate would be influenced by various things like number of burgher pops, quantity of a certain trade good in your possession and such.
People think migration will work exactly like vic3?
Also could you not think about nogs for 10 minutes
Fine, I will now think about israelites and trannies for the next 10 minutes.
Its pretty much confirmed it will be exactly like Vic 5 if not even more egregiously ahistorical
Proofs?
I see nothing about the details of how migration works in connection with vic3
No hordes of nogs flooding your country or 6000 ethnic groups in a single village, nothing about colonial subjects flooding the homeland
Can you fricking /gsg/ or steamgroup or whatever the hell raiders just go back? That isn't what Johan said at all. He said that peasants should be able to move around inside a country if the law permits as well as colonists moving to the colonies. He also made a joke about communist countries having a ruling class, which flies in the face of Marxism's endless promises of a classless worker's utopia.
How about you reserve that judgement until the game is fricking playable, you moronic culture warrior wannabe?
Best case scenario you worked up a bunch of outrage over nothing and you can enjoy the game you pirated.
You're taking some offhand forum comments as ironclad proof that EU5 iS GoNnA bE wOkE sHiT.
You're schizophrenic, as to be expected from a general with such a moronic culture as /gsg/.
Please post Johan's comment where he said North Africans became a majority of Paris in most PC games
and you're taking them completely out of context
>game has migration, because the period had migration, how else did the fricking USA come to be if it wasn't settled by white anglo protestants
>THIS IS LITERALLY MARXISM WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE REEEEEEE
you're acting like one of the snowflakes you make fun of
>you're acting like one of the snowflakes you make fun of
2016 called, it wants its talking point back.
Replace woke with sjw and you're spot on.
Stop trying to argue with mentally ill troons pretending to be a mentally ill /misc/tards. You're not going to accomplish anything
That's not what samegayging is, how new are you?
He's mentally ill its best to ignore him
What /gsg/ does to a Black person
That isn't the kind of migration Johan was talking about and you know it, you intellectually dishonest moron.
>BUH BUH VIC3
the game he's repeatedly mocked in dev comments for eu5?
EU4 Colonization is boring and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
Everyone agrees with you, though. And it only got more moronic ever since they changed how natives work.
its pretty cool that if you kill the natives the colony will 100% be your culture and your religion
*has to pay 50 sword mana to kill 500 native morons who wants him dead*
it costs so much because your troops also rape their corpses
eu3 did it better
>they are still giving the troony attention
>>10 million pops labeled "dark as night bantu Black folk" instantly migrate to london
why are you describing your parents and how they got to UK?
The likelyhood of this not being an unbearable slop is the same of me having sex with a biological female irl, not gonna happen
Im hiring a prostitute for you
i tried meiou 3.0 but honestly its quite fricking bloated, you were right all along.
like I just wanted to check out the new map modes and it kept opening new event windows over and over again, and that frickin investments shit and the new estates window...what the frick am I doing scoob?? the ui is absolutely shite and unintuitive. shame really, looks like it has some neat gameplay mechanics
MEIOU 2.6 is on the workshop, you've just gotta revert to 1.29
>still runs like shit
MEIOU will never run at a decent pace because it's jank and at least as bloated as the main game with all the DLC.
all the way back to 1.29? that shit came out 4-5 years ago. Guess I'll just wait for Johan's redemption
They fricked it up with the "taxes" thing. They took all the buildings out of the Buildings UI and replaced it with tax buttons, meanwhile there's no way to know the cost/benefit of taxes so they're fricking pointless, and the best way to do taxes is have them automated for you. And making infrastructure is event menus inside event menus.
Worse yet, new buildings are absolute ass for performance so those buttons make the game run slower too.
holy frick why on earth would they ruin a fine mod like that?
Some people just don't know when to quit
Most of 3.0 is good if a bit obtuse and limited by EU4, but the taxes/infra thing is pants on head moronic. Most likely case is that there was one very talented and autistic guy in charge of it and he did it how he wanted, and it didn't turn out well
any quick tips for 3.0?
The thing I hope the most for is being ablo to join/leave wars midway. No kind of any moronic locking from declaring or being declared on, or joining/peacing out.
The diplomacy shall be free to use and abuse with consequences instead of barriers.
>Metroid Dread
>Blasphemous
>Unmetal
>Now EUV doesn't look like garbage
Yeah, Asspain is healing
>blasphemous
what a dogshit game, glad I pirated it before buying lol
>left out a Hispanic name
sudaca detected, you will never be white haha
More like Jotran, am I right lads
Top sodding kek in the faces of you Caesartroons
STOP NOW
YOU SAY JOHAN IS LORD!
Do you homies really enjoy LARPing as if you just got defrosted after being put in cryostasis back in 2016? Fatherless behaviour, tee bee aych.
what the frick are you talkin about you Black person moron? what am i shilling a free mod you double Black person?
I'm hyped for a 1337 start start so I can play as pagan Lithuania and dechristianize Europe
>hyped for a game with bloody medieval DEI and communism
Top bleeding kek lad, are you a shill or just severly moronic?
Johan's "communism" comment was to make an example of how elites are unavoidable, not confirmation that communism will be in the game. Of course you're a dumbass sperg so that went over your head.
Why are you responding to the schizoposter
Learn to fricking read.
The name of the elite class, not the name of communism. Fricking seppo's I swear.
If you're into Lithuanian paganism you can try out Godsworn.
Holy frick, I'm so happy I'm not mentally ill.
the troony is finally losing his mind lmao
Why are people so afraid of EU5? Johan must really be onto something for the execs to fund complete tard raids on /vst/.
Kek off back to your hugbox m8. Based anons see through your shilling and thread poisoning tactics.
based Johan gonna save eu and all you can do is watch and seeth
hes doin it cuz hes lonely and mad because we're genuinely hyped for project caesar
>Being this mad at people discussing a new game
>circumcized
No thanks israelite! Post some tasty uncut Bantu meat then we can talk.
keksimus
I mean if you could articulate right now, using eloquent and complex sentences while employing syllogistic reasoning, why one shouldn't be hyped about eu5 anon without posting dicks and soijaks I'd be so happy
whats wrong with communism? were all far lefty commies here
This is a traditional "auth right" board, commie.
Go back to troonycord now or face a brutal tactical kekking from our most cheeky lads.
ew frick off cuckservative natzis
Actually mindbroken. How can one man seethe at one fat Swede this much?
johan is his jungian shadow
This is what years of being confined to /gsg/ does. Complete brainrot, delusions of "le epic based kek pepe raids" and a sad husk of a person. Just sad to see really.
>delusions
Lad if anything you and your paratroony shill friends are the delusional ones. No Paraslop DLC vehicle #88 is not gonna be fun to play and I do not see any reason you would defend it other than being an employee of Jotran, or Jotran himself mayhaps.
How curious, you think Paradox is bad and yet you only play a handful of victoria 2 mods
here, have some (You)s
Well, he also literally posted the same about Victoria 3, but it was new threads and he routinely got deleted and/or banned.
I dunno why the jannies abandoned you guys like this.
>delusions
I think it's supposed to be ironic.
I don't get how it benefits him to LARP as le ebin 2016 /misc/ man.
>ironic
homie, Rob has been going at it for like a decade now. Mental illness coated in irony is still mental illness.
I shitpost about johan myself but this is just comical
welp I'm still hyped for the game so not sure about your little political activism here
Lad you were taken too soon. Godspeed and may we meet again and kek together once more,
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Mein Gott.
What do you guys think the troony was thinking while doing these posts?
well xhe was very inclusive for sure! bantering all the ESLs, brazilians, chuds, ziggers, commies, and the other trannies as well. truly a postmodern moment
Going by the images he posted, he thought about black penises.
>we get to model
>we get to model
pdx modeling anything
haven't you learned from V3 and CK3? it will be another cookie clicker visual novel
and no, 2 more DLCs won't fix it
Why are you talking, subhuman degenerate? Livestream your suicide, it'll make people happy.
Now this is a world map of 1337, if anyone is wondering.
And one of Europe, because why the frick not.
>Kingdom of Italy
Can someone give a rundown, is this just some rump state that collapses before 1444 historically?
The Lombards move in in the aftermath of the Gothic War and start calling themselves kings of Italy
Charlemagne conquers them and the Kingdom of Italy becomes part of his empire
following its collapse, both it and Germany exist for a bit before the Pope invites the Germans to invade Italy
Otto the Great does so, and, as king of both, is proclaimed (Holy) Roman Emperor in 962.
Actual imperial control would start fading in the 1100s, but the emperors continued to use the titles King of Italy and King of Germany anyways.
Nice samegayging troon. Any based anon can see this for what it is from a mile away.
Can you frick off already, schizo?
>Cheeky troon thinks he can take on the based autists and the based schizos of the based anon force
I’ll let you leave before my mates show up and banter you so hard you 41%, lad
>the troon cries out as he shamefully samegays and bumps his thread
Cool it with the antisemitic vernacular.
>SAMEgayGING WELL POISONER
obsessed.
replying to the same person four times in a row while pretending to be different people each time is samegayging, yes.
it was better when you were seething about opinions you disagree with and calling everyone an ESL.
>samegayging troon STILL going on
top sodding kek mate
Don't respond to the schizo, let's watch as he spergs out responding to himself.
rvthenia...home...at least it was before the p*les fricked everything up
Dang that lime green country in Africa is huge
How will Timmies cope ?
The Afrikang federal state controlled most of the Americas, ME, Siberia, and Australia before the seeds of destruction sown by Yakub came to fruition.
>The Afrikang federal state controlled most of the Americas
Still does.
WHATETEFAK?
Entire Africa is a wasteland apart for a few provinces? Meanwhile Europe gets an even higher province density?
Good to know Paradox is still pandering to actual nazis
troony about to lose its mind again today?
I just realized that since the game will have functional slaves, the meta every powergaming redditor will have to adopt will be to work Black folk to death on some caribbean island for huge profits
thank you chudhan
anglopajeet sure got mindbroken
already looking good if eu4troons are seething at eu5
damn project Caesar threads were popular but now thanks to the bigger dick poster chud, we're always page 1
I rather them being less populat and talk more about the actual game.
Why are forumites so against sliders? They call it "false depth" lmao
The issue with sliders is that they can become very finicky depending on the delay from change -> effect. They have to make sure slider effects don't update instantly, making it useless to perform "micro" optimizations.
Sliders become unfun when you constantly have to adjust them to achieve some equilibrium state, which if that is the idea should and could easily be automated instead.
Wow, who cares. EU4 is already babby's first grand strategy, CK3 and Vicky 3 are extremely simplified. This is just gonna take it to the next level of "streamlining". There is no financial incentive for Paradox to shrink their market, after all. They want to appeal to the lowest common denominator now after their EU4, Stellaris and SoI4 success.
>Wow, who cares.
Evidently you do, Black person. You wrote a paragraph b***hing about it.
>paragraph
Are a few sentences what passes for a paragraph for a moron like you?
>Is a paragraph a paragraph?
Yes.
How long has it been since you read anything longer than a tweet or discord message?
Not only do you care enough to write a paragraph, you care so much you're still here b***hing.
Thats literally the definition of a paragraph you sub-normal moron.
>woke
my god, that word sends the shivers down my spine. No other word makes you sound more like a terminally-on-facebook boomer than "woke"
JoTran’s looney troons coming out of the woodwork once again once they detect a word or opinion they don’t like
>Boomer
Ok troony
I see now! being exciting and hyped for a game on 4chin is some kinda next level contrarianism now
I now understand why /gsg/ began the no-reply nonsense.
we have had this fricking conversation before multiple times, you are taking johan's comments completely out of context
glass whichever third world country you come from
for love of god please stop giving steamgruppe raiders and Trob attention, just ignore it and the jannies will delete it after a while as opposed to the entire thread just being people talking about his autism after all of the posts are already gone thus by murdering any and all conversation in the thread. by replying you are giving them what they want
Aye aye, Captain.
How many /gsg/ tards does it take to change a lightbulb?
It doesnt matter, since /gsg/ can't change anything!
Grandifas DNI.
all i want is that eu4's moronic technology scaling to NOT be in eu5.
African Black folk living in huts with same tech as europe is fricking ridiculous
it used to be different in the beginning. then multiplayer paradrone balance Black folk ruined everything of course.
I'd love to see the actual proportion of singleplayer vs multiplayer for EU4
Why do you keep using these obscure nonsense terms that nobody in real life uses?
Why do you keep using them across your various fake personalities as well?
Why do you suck on my based auth right zoomer penis, millennial homosexual? Why do you lap up my puddle of cum?
Me and my mates are kekking loudly right now. You even summoned the mods to come save your scared nancy boy arse. Top Sodding Kek
Didn't you just get warned/banned for this
Seething green quadrant millennials coping and dilating hard. Kek!
What a sad fricking life you lead, dude. Sitting here, LARPing as people you hate for... what purpose, even?
>what purpose, even?
you see, shitposters like him flourish in a predictable, almost echo-chamber-like setting, and 4chin board culture provides a perfect microcosm for them to "thrive."
its inherently contrarian. it's old good, new bad. its pessimism intensifies. "stop being enthusiastic, be miserable like me!!"
and by causing chaos here and disrupting the thread, he can avoid confronting the cognitive dissonance triggered by our optimistic disposition, i.e. we are genuinely looking forward for something
they do it because morons keep acknowledging them instead of the standard report+ignore
im pretty sure you can get around bans by just resetting your router
how curious you can whine about russmutts having aids and then write such a blatantly homosexualy post
pozzed fricking shill thread
I FRICKING HATE WHEN forumgays and redditards complain about never finishing a campaign or getting bored after 100 years
Maybe don't just 100% metablob every game and try to rp a bit?
I hate normalgays I hate normalgays I hate normalgays I hate the antichrist frick Black folk
>and try to rp a bit?
RP is for gays, besides CK is the franchise to do that, not EU.
>CK is the franchise to do that
it's supposed to be anyway
It's either blobbing, clicking the dev buttons or do nothing
I can't wait to migrate the entire population of Earth to Ireland.
Is EUV just johans way of stealth creating vicky3 but not shit?
What's stopping him from adding basic industry for the end game
It already looks like a better economy sim than vicky3
Tinto has a team making a Victoria mod for it in parallel with the actual game development
>Victoriasalis V
no he simply finally wants to create a sequel for eu3
its even in the name euIII II
>Actual feminist in charge of Paradox Tinto
>Medieval communism and immigration
It’s all over. The woke DEI panderers have bloody done it. Are there any non-woke alternatives to Paradox? I can’t can’t take this shite anymore.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-8-17th-of-april-2024.1666167/
>banking countries
uhh