Honestly I think the missed opportunity was going with VR instead of AR. Back when MS was shilling hololense as a future consumer product it looked pretty cool and would be the closest thing to having a holographic 3d display kind of thing.
It's a 12% increase in resolution, that's significant just in text fidelity and screen door effect. The pancake lenses are ALSO a significant improvement. If you have a Quest 2 you sell the Quest 2 and upgrade, it's not that hard.
I have a Quest 2 and I was hoping for a decent upgrade. Ah well.
I was also hoping for some actual fricking vidya to be revealed but so far shit was disappointing and the zucc focused on AI and other non-vidya garbage. I just want my GTA SA VR.
Except it’s worth it just for the pancake lenses and better performance. Or it would be if there were any to do with it, everyone with a Quest 2 has probably already played everything and put it away in a closet.
>say it's slimmer >exact same weight >only tenths of an inch smaller in some ways, over an inch larger in another
It looks like they just made it worse at isolating the screens
I'm just glad they're back to dual screens. VR is never going to take off proper if your headset cannot support every IPD in the human seeing range.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>VR is never going to take off proper if your headset cannot support every IPD in the human seeing range.
can still be done with a single screen if it was large enough
the reason they go with dual screens now is cause if you tilt the screens slightly you get more fov
In case you need a VR shill's impressions on the Q3 vs Q2.
it's actually heavier but because it's slimmer it sits closer so it feels more comfortable
same video also said the fov felt around the same, so if they didnt notice something immediate the fov upgrade must be very minor
yeah because what's the point of improving if the only difference is amount of ram and eye tracking(which devs probably knew Quest 3 woudln't/won't have)
>Virt-A-Mate
Is the joke that everyone would vomit on the spot?
seriously
Oi oi oi.
What's with all the ruckus? Do you shitters not have a strong enough PC to run it?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, the issue is that we unfortunately CAN run it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's not a proper VR game, everything about it is half baked and the results aren't worth the effort
it's an okay alernative to blender/SFM but that's it, in VR it's garbage
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, the issue is that we unfortunately CAN run it.
Ah, so the problem is ye lads want a game that plays itself for you. You don't want to put in the work and effort to make a scene.
Pathetic. You don't deserve vr e-girls. Let alone e-girl.
Your e-girl cards have been revoked until further notice.
9 months ago
Anonymous
ok
9 months ago
Anonymous
Cope non-pedo
9 months ago
Anonymous
What is the point of this being animated
9 months ago
Anonymous
to make you mad and bait this exact reply
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm more confused than irritated tee bee hach sempachi
The problem is there's no way to insert a new ssd or expand storage with a microsd. They're price gouging for the extra storage but if you don't get it, you are permanently stuck at 128gb. Phones do the same thing by removing microsd slots they can charge more for extra storage.
I got the 64gb Quest 2 and I thought that would be enough but it filled up pretty fast, even with most of my games on pc. Like you can fill that up on beat saber mods alone. And because meta's cloud saves kind of suck, I've lost precious save files by uninstalling games to make space.
>Yes, it is an upgrade.
only in cameras and lenses, the screen is barely larger, and the chip is still 5x slower than faster snapdragon chips
adreno 650 is still a budget mobile chip from 3 years ago, its not even a fast chip of its series, they should have at lest bumped it to adreno 680
>It's absolutely a performance upgrade compared to the Quest 2
improving a tiny bit over shit performance is still shit >the rest of your comment is you blubbering about a headset you wouldn't buy.
what are you on about even? even if wont buy it why wouldnt it be better?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>tiny bit
Yeah you're full of shit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
its still 1 teraflop chip you moron, literally hardware from 15+ years ago tier
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't care what you think, you wouldn't use a VR headset no matter the chip in it. You also have no brain so you think you can just put any powerful chip in the headset without any thought to heat or battery requirements. So you're complaining about a headset you won't buy that they're not putting a chip inside that won't even last an hour assuming it doesn't burn your face first.
apparently so >There's two separate displays, boasting 2064x2208 resolution per eye (a near 30% increase on Quest) and a larger field of view of 110 degrees horizontal and 96 degrees vertical – even wider than Quest Pro
Even then it kind of blows.
Its like youtube compression. In some case same as native, but with shit like moving foilage, its full of microblocking.
Try skyrim for the lulz, its terrible
nah I don't reckon. I have access to everything for free with the pirate app and I'm still on about 50gb used. anything really good goes over the link cable anyway. it doesn't install anything on the device.
>slightly thinner
Ah yes, that was the one thing that VR was missing. Clearly, everybody will jump on board the VR train THIS time because the headset is slightly lighter!
It's the same shit, different day.
Nobody cares, it's just going to be another expensive toy, and they're promoting this like a cryptobro promotes their NFTs.
They are advertising it to the Apple fanbase, after all.
Really i'm getting tempted to cave and put my racism aside to buy a Samsung one, maybe I should look into chink options though. Valve is prohibitively expensive here because they don't want to risk selling hardware to Australia themselves because somebody at the office of consumer protection has it out for them so there's EB Games as an extra middleman
>he actually thinks the cameras are $500 for eye tracking
Try $50. The reason there's no eye tracking is because no one would buy the Quest Pro which is a piece of shit. The only thing Quest Pro has going for it is eye tracking.
it's the cameras and processing that lead to the extra cost. the psvr is the only option for 550 dollars that does it, and that's because the gpu and cpu processing are done externally so the only extra cost is the cameras inside the headset
It's using the same processor as the Quest Pro, stop making up shit. So the cost is the cameras themselves, they already have it working with the XR2 Gen 2 with the Quest Pro. So it's purely so they can keep trying to sell you a piece of junk called the Quest Pro.
pro doesn't have a depth sensor because they removed it last minute and the camera pass through is fake color.
pro is probably end of life now
9 months ago
Anonymous
>pro is probably end of life now
Don't forget they dropped the price by $500 after half a year
9 months ago
Anonymous
>fake color
the frick is fake color
9 months ago
Anonymous
cameras are capturing greyscale but get colorized by software
9 months ago
Anonymous
And it looks like shit. Actually worse than Quest 2 greyscale mode for making you dizzy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pro has a dedicated low-rez high-FoV webcam in the center to feed colour information to the passthrough cameras, and it comes off looking like a compressed JPG in that regards.
jesus christ
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pro has a dedicated low-rez high-FoV webcam in the center to feed colour information to the passthrough cameras, and it comes off looking like a compressed JPG in that regards.
it's not the same you moron, psvr isn't a standalone headset. it can cut costs by running off the assumption it will be connected to a ps5 and have access to its hardware for extra external processing power.
It is the same thing and it's not *competing* on the CPU, these XR2 processors are designed to handle different sources of inputs or do you really think your smartphone camera competes for the same CPU as the game you're playing. These chips are SPECIFICALLY designed to handle many camera feeds (up to 10).
psvr does onboard tracking like a standalone headset, it then sends that tracking data to the ps5 to process and render the game. not having to be a self-contained headset allows them to keep the price cheap, another way of looking at it is that it's a 1000 or more dollar headset like every standalone headset with eye tracking on the market due to the ps5 requirement to run it.
I will not buy another headset that requires the oculus software that keeps my monitors from going to sleep, fricks up my audio device settings, and prevents me from migrating to linux.
How does VR feel like it's progressing quickly and at a snails pace at the same time. The rift came out 10 years ago and while admittedly the specs have improved it's still nowhere close to what they've been promising forever.
>requires facebook(meta) account
still a no for me
at least the previous version was subsidized because they wanted my data now they want my data and full price to spy on me
>it's called meta now so it's ok
Honestly amazing.
I always thought corporate rebranding was stupid because everybody knows it's the same fricking thing with a different name but apparently it does work on souless coomsumers
I don't think you get what we're saying my man, you don't need to give them the account where you keep up with all your high school/college friends and play bad time gated flashgames anymore anon
has anyone here actually compared these wireless headsets with a wired headset like the early oculus or Index?
im wondering if the tracking and performance works well. mostly concerned that there would be some kind of delay when using it for your PC.
that sucks, that's a big dealbreaker for me if there's bad latency on wireless. i usually play flightsims or FPS games in vr so i need something with no delay.
do they have cables that you can use to plug in to remove the delay for the meta? or is it wireless only
There's both. I believe Eleven TT dev recommend Quest players use the Quest app instead of play through PC due to latency and the need to track a fast moving ping pong ball.
It's because very few people are using the WiFi 6 dongle or properly setting up their WiFi network. You probably shouldn't attempt to stream your PC to your Quest through your router that is on the other side of your house.
you can plug it in with a USB-C cable but I don't know how much better it is
if you're using the hand controllers I don't think it's very important because they are inherently quite laggy. if you're using other peripherals you might notice it more.
He's an idiot, any decent wifi 6 router is fine. Owned a quest 2 for years. Boyfriend also owns a quest pro and we're in vr daily cuz furgays. Do you really think us mega autists would use something shitty?
We're both content creators and devs who scream at the sight of the smallest of bugs. Our shit always works.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>that picture demonstrates high quality standards
Definitely doesn't account for taste.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What is wrong with the Gantz like body suit I made? It's a simple sci-fi that wasn't too hard to make normal maps for. Also, my fursona is amazing, it has simple elegant design with zero trashy sparkled colors, so anyone who likes that shit or dislikes my fursona simply has bad tastes.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Texture blending could use some work.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>gay furhomosexualry game >virtually bug free
minus the poz I guess
I would rather play another 50 hours of fallout 76 than your "flawlessly performing game"
The quest tracking is great, the only issue with inside out tracking is controller occlusion when out of view for too long. And issue that's resolved entirely with the pro controllers. As someone who's used a wide variety of headsets there is absolutely nothing wrong with the devices, especially for what you get.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not saying Inside Out isn't great, for 99.9% of people Quest 2, Quest 3, Quest Pro tracking is fine. Quest Pro of course being the best since the controllers are self tracking. I'm saying that for PC connectivity it goes: Display Port -> USB -> WiFi 6 Direct -> WiFi 6 -> Please Don't WiFi.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you are really going to try to act like a standalone only device isn't a huge factor and appeal of the headset, you're a fricking idiot. I used my quest 2 daily on the toilet and during transit to play ps2 games and plenty of other emulated titles. I expect even better experience with the quest 3 for this. It is a full device without any pc assistance.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The quality of Quest 2 games is laughably bad. Have you seen the dogshit graphics and gameplay of Saints and Sinners vs PC? Quest games are awful when compared to their PC versions.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Did you not even read my statement? You can sideload any android application onto it and it'll run even better than on a flagship phone due to the powerful soc. And bad ports are just bad ports, bonelabs clearly demonstrated otherwise, and over 10 million vrchat players are accessing the game without a pc. Nobody is playing whatever the frick else you think is real.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine playing VR Chat on the Quest lmao. This level of cope holy shit just say you're too poor to own a PC and you're making due with scraps.
9 months ago
Anonymous
10 million still revolutionized your shitty niche hobby and made it actually marketable to the mainstream while establishing a new standard for even accessing said technology. When you compare it to outdated jank like anything using base stations or dogshit lighthouse systems that can occluded far worse than any inside out I've seen, then yes it was an amazing headset. It was so amazing I bought 5 of em so I could spread the tech to my friends. Hope it makes you seethe, gonna buy the quest 3 too. Call me when the Deckard comes out or get announced, otherwise there isn't even close competition to meta.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know why you're so butthurt about this. I get it anon, you're too poor to own a gaming PC. But don't act like that Kroger dogfood you're eating is better than the steak they serve on PC.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I have an rtx 3090 pc, moron. I just know what is clearly the superior headset and trying to sell someone a pcvr only device that uses lighthouses still in 2023, is fricking stupid. You are fricking vapidly stupid for doing so. What little crumbs of shitty games that ever come out for your shit device will unfortunately be a byproduct of the meta market. I want valve to badly fricking make their own standalone headset to finally offer competition, but it does not exist. The only close second would be the pick 4 pro, but you can't even sideload standalone vr games onto it despite having the same chip, so you'd be stuck with only emulators. The one thing I like about the Pico 4 though is the usb-c actually has hdmi output, meaning you can just use it like any normal android console with retroarch. I would buy one, but I want the new xr2 gen 2 chip to play with. I'm curious what it'll run totk at.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>You can sideload any android application onto it and it'll run even better than on a flagship phone due to the powerful soc
That's not how an SoC works.
The XR2 is just derived from the Snapdragon 865.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The xr2 does not have the same gpu as the 865, kindly shutup. I actually use the device as my daily driver, so I can assure you the thing gets 18fps in totk. Kys.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The xr2 does not have the same gpu as the 865
Yeah it does, they both use the Adreno 650
Vr has a lot of potential human dont they focus more on other things vr could do. This way they can get more users and more people will buy it. This will then increase the industry.
It has lot of potential in arts like 3d graphic design. Maybe even cad designs. Films you could have a mmo like cinema where you can watch a film with random strangers or ai generated celebs or your ai gf it might be the key to combating loneliness. It can also be used for teaching. Imagjnenbeing able to watch a sports game from the stadium or the pitch with vr. Cuckold porn could be interactive. I can think of limitless possibilities
another 4chinner spreading misinformation
I have a quest pro coming from a rift S
and the quality jump has been tremendous
everything has been an upgrade including the colors
frick you
>Maybe if someone manages to make it work on PC (not happening).
Actually they've made some progress with that
https://twitter.com/iVRy_VR/status/1680416154890665984
I understand they want it as a PS5 to sell consoles, but who the frick would buy a PS5 and a headset for PSVR? Just open it up to work on windows and you suddenly can be a big contender in headset manufacturing.
RE Engine mods are solid but RE4 VR and RE8 VR actual modes by Capcom are just better.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They're not 'better' they're functionally the same thing. It's why RE7 is so much better on PC than PSVR.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ok you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, but you're the one coping.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There is a pretty fricking big difference. The moment these mods let me dual wield, or swap my gun hand by simply tossing a weapon from one to another etc is when they are equal to the real versions. Not to mention all the reload shit.
I would like the extra mile that would being able to drop weapons from being hit to add an extra layer of shit to the combat but its fine as is.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are probably talking to a turbohomosexual that PAYS for shit like the cyberpunk "vr" mod that only displays the game on your headset while you still have to use keyboard+mouse.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'd play a lot of 2D games if all they had was a 3D VR mode. The immersion factor inside of a headset is great.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Besides the horrendous FOV and resolution of strapping cardboard "vr" with a phone to your head, that's is what you are describing, if you cant pick shit from your inventory within holsters in 3d space its not even vr gaming.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>3D VR video isn't immersive
just say you've never put on a VR headset before
9 months ago
Anonymous
>if you cant pick shit from your inventory within holsters in 3d space its not even vr gaming.
Motion controls are a gimmick. They're not what makes VR great and shoehorning it into every game simply because you can is exactly why the VR library consists exclusively of directionless tech demos outside of examples you can count on one hand.
Not every game needs manual reloading.
Not every game needs manual sword swings.
Not every game needs physical buttons you can press in VR space.
Not every game needs floating screens taped to your wrist.
Everyone managed to figure this out two decades ago with the Wii but here we are with history repeating itself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You need to feel like a part of the world, and holding a controller to do 95% of the gameplay with the 5% being moving the head is absolutely not it. I don't need to wipe my ass in VR, but something like Into the Radius is absolutely great for being able to interact with shit, loot stuff and position it in my backpack etc and is only held back by being a indie title with no budget to get visuals or enemy animations on par with even Saints and Sinners
If I am shooting a gun in a RE VR mode, I sure as hell want manual reloading and being able to shoot and use my knife at the same time.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not that anon, but manual loading and aiming is great but when you get shit like RE's gesture-based inventory it becomes annoying and gimmicky. And melee combat in any VR game just feels awful, like I'm fighting ghosts. So motion controls aren't always a good thing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Gesture based is completely fine. X weapon is left shoulder, Y weapon is right shoulder. Grenade chest, ammo left waist. Not an issue at all and it adds to the gameplay by needing to actually remember and grab shit at the right time. Blade and Sorc is the only game I find melee to be atleast passable in, and its the one that has the most time spent on making that as solid as possible.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Gesture-based inventory adds to the gameplay in the same way waggle added to Twilight Princess.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I mean in RE4 VR IIRC you can hold a button which brings up a radial wheel if you want that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>here we are with history repeating itself.
Games were never able to do any of these things before, so this is all new territory. I agree that very game doesn't need it, but these all works very well in games when it fits the goals of the game.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Not every game needs manual reloading.
This is true. The newer doom games don't have reloading and they are flat. >Not every game needs manual sword swings. >Not every game needs physical buttons you can press in VR space.
No they generally do. Pressing a button to watch your arms do something your real arms aren't doing is moronic in VR. >Not every game needs floating screens taped to your wrist.
Sure but this is often a matter of convenience.
Anyway when we have eyetracking some of this stuff will be aleviated for you. It will be normal to look at buttons instead of reaching for them depending on the application.
Sony is paying capcom to port their games to VR and I'm fricking jealous. RE8 with manual reload and proper guns looks so fricking sick. I played the praydog mod on PC and while the game looks good, it plays just ok. Aiming is clunk, menuing is clunk.
the technology of these devices literally never improved dramatically enough from my CV1 that i would consider spending another 200-1000 dollars on an upgrade just to play fricking beatsaber with a higher resolution for 15-30 minutes until i get bored or tired and then forget i have one because there are no worth while experiences outside of that to come back to
and these change the lack of games and literal same 5 scenarios that you interact with in the literal no new games in 2-3 years how exactly? >Outside of mixed reality color passthrough with AR capabilities, pancake lenses, four times the resolution, no screen door effect, in a standalone headset that requires no external cameras for tracking you mean.
none of these things change or improve things dramatically enough for me to want to play through the 1 hour campaign of arizona sunshine again, anon. nothing about the experience changes at all. all of those improvements, while certainly nice for someone just buying their first headset, are actually cool, it's still the same old shit.
Play vrchat you fricking loser. I got to drive around San Andreas in vrchat while smoking a cigarette and shooting a gun. You aren't even alive until you have done half the cool shit I've done in pcvr vrchat.
>play a chatroom
so again, like i said, nothing has changed in the last 10 years
>the 1 hour campaign of arizona sunshine
you know there's more games now than arizona sunshine, right?
Like the devs of arizona sunshine even made a new game themselves.
oh yeah? what did they make? another game where you shoot stuff? truly epic experience it's really blowing my socks off doing that again for the 30th time
>another game where you shoot stuff? truly epic experience
You're the one who said you just played Arizona Sunshine over and over instead of finding other games
9 months ago
Anonymous
i said no such thing. i implied that was kind of my only option. there's been nothing no or innovative as far as software is concerned for vr, so why the frick would i care about the hardware improvements?
tibeh eyeumo after the fall had some big problems with the midgame grind
taking the infinite shotgun exploit out made it objectively less fun
I hoped they would add more stuff in patches but apparently now theyre just making arizona sunshine 2
Okay moron, ignore upon scripting and act like all the mega cool game themed and exploration content isn't there. Ignore the cooler stuff that fricks with perspective and dimensions and portals and all the tech, just pretend it doesn't exist and that vrchat is just anime girls talking in black cats. You are fricking stupid.
you're eyes can do that? mine completely break the vr effect at a certain level of drunkenness and it's just two disconnected screens my brain can't merge together anymore
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not black out drunk, just a couple shots in. And yes, played beer pong that way.
it's pretty amazing "going to the bar" with real life friends that moved across the country and being so racist we get kicked out then starting the cycle over and over again
>VR Chat
full of children and pedophiles. which one are you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
One time I had children talking sexual around me in VR Chat and it was extremely awkward, noped right out of there. I tend to hang out where adults are while drunk.
Outside of mixed reality color passthrough with AR capabilities, pancake lenses, four times the resolution, no screen door effect, in a standalone headset that requires no external cameras for tracking you mean. Yeah, Quest 3 is just the CV1 repackaged.
Play vrchat you fricking loser. I got to drive around San Andreas in vrchat while smoking a cigarette and shooting a gun. You aren't even alive until you have done half the cool shit I've done in pcvr vrchat.
Quest 1 is actually dogshit and shouldn't be recommended to anyone outside of being a collector's item. It's like recommending a GBA gen 1 over a GBA SP.
yeah definitely worth it for me, VR + onahole is pretty much better than sex. This one has good specs, high res and decent FOV.
Warning though, you pretty much need 6k or 8K videos to have it be worth it, probably will need to buy a sub to vrporn.com, think all the big vr studios have their stuff there. Maybe you can find torrents, but the free 4k stuff doesn't cut it, looks like shit
Not worth $500 just for porn it gets boring. Sure it's nice seeing breasts in VR but the games aren't that good and porn is only pro stuff made by bogged people and they only do 2 positions because it's pov only.
>Better FOV, resolution, refresh rate, SoC, passthrough, and mixed reality capabilities than the Quest Pro despite costing 3x less
Man they really fricked up with the Quest Pro, didn't they.
>buy quest 2 >play Alyx >it's fun >try into the void >it's fun >try walking dead >its ok >return headset for full cost
what's the point when there's literally nothing to play
Imagine buying the quest pro lol. Instantly abandoned and cucked. Literally Q3 is better in every way, except eye tracking, which no software uses because you need a $1000 headset for it.
They gave out free quest pros to everyone at a roblox developer convention because they were so desperate to get rid of them lol.
Actually the Q1 was supported for a pretty long time, with the first game only available on Q2 not arriving until a year after that launched.
Even now after it’s been discontinued and not getting any more updates there’s still new releases that work on Q1.
Facial tracking via wireless is too slow for foveated rendering unfortunately. VRChat trannies already had means of wirelessly relaying the facial tracking data for social shit as well.
They were already using VD. I was just referring to software you could sideload onto the Quest Pro which relays the face/eye-data to your PC. All VD did was save people the hassle of needing to do that.
I have a Rift 1 and tried flight sims and the picture quality wasn't anywhere close to playable for me. Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
you actually don't have to have monster pc to play wirelessly through quest air link
the only problem is that you don't get direct displayport but it's processed through quest
it pretty means you get a bit worse clarity and tiny latency, but the resolution itself makes it up
with pancake lenses I imagine it's gonna look amazing
Quest 2 still isn't as sharp as I'd like for flight sims.
>Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
Ideally a GPU with nvenc2 encoding, which is any modern RTX card. I can't recall if Oculus' software made use of AMD's modern equivalent
Ironic. A 3070ti isnt too weak for VR. It is true you arent a woman though
9 months ago
Anonymous
>A 3070ti isnt too weak for VR
It is, if you are playing at acceptable rendering resolution. >It is true you arent a woman though
I know, I've never even doubted it for a minute.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It is, if you are playing at acceptable rendering resolution.
source >I know, I've never even doubted it for a minute.
Considering you brought it up out of nowhere I'd say your estrogen pills arent working (and never will work)
9 months ago
Anonymous
>source
I know, because I've had 3070 before. It wasn't anywhere near enough for Q2.
Difference between 3070 and 3070ti is less than 10%. >Considering you brought it up out of nowhere
You are the one who is denying reality here. And you also use VR. So yeah, it wasn't out of nowhere.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're a moron, 3070 is fine for vr. Especially at the native res for the quest 2.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't, you fricking moronic troony.
Blurry mess which makes ironsights impossible to use is not acceptable for people with standards. >native res for the quest 2.
"Native" rendering res is max resolution supported by airlink and vd (5376x2784 to be exact). It's 140% of panel res to compensate for lens distortion.
Everything else is less than native.
And you are not getting native res with 3070ti at acceptable framerates, it's just not going to happen.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I literally own a rtx 3070 and played vertigo 2 on high at native res, 90hz without any drops, you are so delusional it's insane.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Record a webm with framegraph visible, you moronic lying c**t.
I know for a fact that you are lying.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Native res is only 18xx not 25x, barrel distortion is a total fricking meme, all you're doing is adding downlscaling or super sampling. The panel inside the device isn't a cat, Mongolia. It's a single lcd panel with a fixed resolution. Imagine actually being so stupid that you don't even understand how an lcd panel works.
9 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but you're running under native, will look like shit. your 3070 is pissing blood trying to run games lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's different from how you render things in flatscreen you fricking moron. It's not a meme at all and literally the entire industry knows and works around it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
moron
9 months ago
Anonymous
Mongloid. I bet you think the distortion used to compensate for the physical lens is the same for different lenses too.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I bet you're a moron, where do I cash in the chips?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>source: My estrogen shitting blown out butthole
LMFAO
9 months ago
Anonymous
>t. troony who is denying reality tries to project
sad to see it
9 months ago
Anonymous
>t. troony who projected and cant even back up his bullshit
KEK
9 months ago
Anonymous
You can't prove a negative, moron.
Show a recording where it's enough to make me eat my words if you are so sure.
You wouldn't do it, because it's simply impossible.
Vertigo2, Pavlov, ItR. The choice of game is up to you.
Native res is only 18xx not 25x, barrel distortion is a total fricking meme, all you're doing is adding downlscaling or super sampling. The panel inside the device isn't a cat, Mongolia. It's a single lcd panel with a fixed resolution. Imagine actually being so stupid that you don't even understand how an lcd panel works.
You don't know shit. Distortion correction is not a meme.
Other fresnel headsets don't lie, even index lists 140% of panel res as 100% in steamvr.
And > The panel inside the device isn't a cat, Mongolia. It's a single lcd panel with a fixed resolution
Oh, I just read this shit. You are fricking moronic indeed. After distortion the pixels in the middle get stretched, just like your butthole. To compensate for that you HAVE to render at at least 140% to get the middle of the picture back closer to 1:1 rendered pixel to panel pixel.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Forgot the pic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>cant find anything on YT or any site to back up his bullshit >n-no you have to jump through 100 hoops to prove my bullshit wrong
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK trannies are wild
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yikes.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Meant for
9 months ago
Anonymous
you're not very good at this are you anon?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You mean like not being able to back up your bullshit bad? Nah Im not that bad
9 months ago
Anonymous
>he thinks the pixels are somehow bigger or smaller at different parts of the lcd. The panel is a fixed resolution, this is a solid fact of life. I don't care if your shitty non pancake lenses distort the center pixels, the panel itself isn't changing. All you are doing by running games at a higher resolution than natively being rendered by that panel is downsampling it as a form aliasing to smoothen the lines. You won't change my mind and I'm very confident being the only person in the room to understand this, and doesn't fall for the distortion aliasing meme and pretend a lcd can suddenly have an adaptive resolution.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Learn what distortion correction does and stop embarrassing yourself.
Not even reading all that shit you typed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Here, I will even give your moronic ass a link
?feature=shared&t=205
9 months ago
Anonymous
it fixes lens distortion and not LCD panel distortion.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Here, I will even give your moronic ass a link
?feature=shared&t=205
Learn what distortion correction does and stop embarrassing yourself.
Not even reading all that shit you typed.
Doesn't fix shit, don't even need to click your link. Supersampling to make your shit look better than the intended pixel density of the panel is doing exactly that, and the 3070 can run the quest 2 at its native per eye resolution without a problem. I accept your concessions, have a nice day.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, run after getting BTFO, moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Keep supersampling and thinking it's somehow the native resolution of the headset, idiot.
It's higher than the native res of the panel, so it's downsampling a higher than native res of the panel. It's exactly what it is. Native res of the quest 2 is pretty low, not even 2k per eye.
The people who made the fricking thing disagree with you. Read the link and shut the frick up you idiot.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not reading shit, I know how an lcd panel works, dumb zooming. Quest 2 native res that is 18xx, the barrel distortion occurs in the physical space between the display and the lens, not internally within the display. Supersampling an 18xx display to 27xx definitely improves visual quality but is by large a compensation for a physical problem. Nothing under the sun will change that fact of life. Now cope eternally.
9 months ago
Anonymous
moronic Black person lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
Facts don't care about your feelings, my Iq is 147. Keep coping and being delusional to think an lcd panel can have a variable dpi or ppi without swapping the panel entirely. You are beyond delusional.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I can't teach you because you are refusing to read, so I can only say one thing.
Frick off, moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're the moron, now you frick off. I already did my research into how Basic TN LCD panels work. You just believe in software mitigation magic for physical issues because you're a fricking moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
not my anon but stop derailing the shitty quest thread its the only one we have
9 months ago
Anonymous
imagine being so sure of yourself while being so moronic at the same time.
I wonder what it's going to be like when mr cleverclogs here gets shown he's a mong?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>source: My estrogen shitting blown out butthole
LMFAO
9 months ago
Anonymous
>source
both my Pico4 and Reverb G2's default SteamVR resolution is 3800x3800 90hz.
I don't think your 3070 is going to run VR home screen at that resolution. lol
>Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
I played Alyx with a 1060 just fine, but it was with the Rift.
Now i have a Quest 2 and it's mostly the same in terms of specs, but the image quality is a big step up, tbh.
Played Sturmovik and Projuct Wingman with it and it was fantastic.
>IL2
How is this? I just started getting into VTOL VR and it's amazing. Are there any other games with fully simulated wienerpits or will I be using a keyboard for everything else?
The problem is text in wienerpits is designed for men with healthy vision looking at them with their real eyes. We are a long ways away from text being readable without bending down hilariously close to the dash. Also good luck seeing enemy planes at a distance. Imagine trying to get your wings to be a fighter pilot but you have to read the eye chart with a VR headset. It's fricked.
I recommend VTOL VR because it's an arcade simulator hybrid with fictional wienerpits designed for the current state of VR. Big text, big controls. Last I heard you don't play it with HOTAS though, just motion controllers and rudder pedals if you have them, so be ready for that.
>fictional wienerpits designed for the current state of VR.
It's a pretty amazing experience. The control stick controls are a bit fricked imo. It's pretty unintuitive how you have to move the motion controls compared to everything else you do with that hand. Still definitely worth it. Wish my friends had VR to play with me.
Americans try to trick the world that they get cheap goods compared to the rest of western countries but they conveniently forgot about sales tax when telling you pricings.
The best of both worlds is live in a state with no income tax but close to a border with a state with no sales tax. Washington/Oregon is a good example.
>it's a you problem if you don't want to play house flipper pets vr, jank cube VR or the critically aclaimed golf it
you will always be a Black person and I have no issues with it, but do not speak to me ever again
watch as all 5 "Quest 3" games turn out to be basically tech demos to show off the new features and the world goes back to playing Quest 2 hardware games
I thought everyone just learned to deal with the size of the headset. What's the point in shrinking it? The issue was that the gameplay and experience sucked once the novelty wore off. It wasn't because the headset was too heavy or too big, it was because VR games fricking suck.
So with Mixed Reality you can watch movies on a fake projected screen on your actual wall? Would the quality be the same or worse than just watching in a virtual desktop?
Is this quest 3 worth it if I want a wireless system to watch movies in bed + VR chat with the boys? Money isn't an issue I'm just very uneducated on what I need for full body tracking.
>put on headset >start making scene i'm gonna jack off to for a total of like 3 minutes, maybe >halfway through my headset's battery dies
great game great experience we're all such plebs for choosing not to put up with it
Maybe it's a bit less uncomfortable now?
Still the state the Quest 2 was in like 2 months ago was fricking terrible so I don't see myself paying for this.
That's even before thinking about VR games, all of which suck hard.
The entire platform right now is just >FPS games >first person sword & ragdolls games >shitty Beat Saber clones
None of which are any fun.
Racers are the closest to polish on the platform and they're more fun playing without VR.
...they literally censor every Japanese/anime game, especially e-girl games.
9 months ago
Anonymous
yes thats what pedophiles tend to do
9 months ago
Anonymous
They also go to church. lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pedos congregate in positions that puts you near children. Look at all the diddlings that have happened in schools. The first guy posted was a journalist, so who knows how he had access to children.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pedos congregate in positions that puts you near children. Look at all the diddlings that have happened in schools. The first guy posted was a journalist, so who knows how he had access to children.
yes thats what pedophiles tend to do
>Sony >full of liberals >anti-pedo game.
?
At what point did it cross your minds that it was 'okay' to insult pedos? You need to watch your mouths and show them some damn respect.
They're just not good games. Both have extremely simplistic and the best things about them are the girls. Labyrinth at least has a few ok puzzles but it's still just nodding your head and looking at shit. It's a complete waste of the VR format.
Nobody really talks about this but if you have a GPU that has been made past like 2018 you can play any VR game ever, and even some mobile laptop GPU's can do it these days, the trick is just making use of the GPU in the headset to force video upscaling
If you buy Virtual desktop you can force on >upscaling and >frame compensation and even 120fps VR is now easier, because
>PC renders 60 fps at low/medium res >Low res is sent to headset and upscaled to native res >Low res means lower encoding times, better bitrates >Headset turns 60 fps into 120 >smooth enough that distortion is minimal >???? >Almost halved requirements on the PC end
This saves so much bitrate and render power
And if you fell for the gaming laptop meme this means even you can do wireless streaming
The problem with this is people think 15fps and everything low is "fine" but leave out these important points when claiming a potato can run VR.
If you're using frame compensation and upscaling you usually win out in other places like bitrates and latency.
If your laptop can't beat an RX580 and 1060, which are the requirements for Alyx, then you have a bigger problem. FRC gives you a hell of a lot more headroom for resolution and texture quality if you've got it running already.
>buy games on Oculus store >Facebook buys Oculus >will lose all your games unless you make a facebook account and agree to let facebook steal all of your data
Literally the worst place to buy VR games.
Yes. You literally will have your Oculus games removed if you don't have a facebook account. You cannot use any Quest product without a facebook account.
You can make a "Meta" account that's not linked to Facebook.
Yes. You literally will have your Oculus games removed if you don't have a facebook account. You cannot use any Quest product without a facebook account.
Legitimately what the frick are you talking about.
Yes. You literally will have your Oculus games removed if you don't have a facebook account. You cannot use any Quest product without a facebook account.
Not a thing for quite a while at this point.
You are allowed to create "meta account" with fake info which is completely separate from facebook account.
You can make a "Meta" account that's not linked to Facebook.
[...]
Legitimately what the frick are you talking about.
[...]
Not a thing for quite a while at this point.
You are allowed to create "meta account" with fake info which is completely separate from facebook account.
>Deleting your Facebook account will also delete your Oculus games
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/deleting-your-facebook-account-will-also-delete-your-oculus-games
They changed that last year so now you need a Meta account instead of a facebook account.
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-remove-your-facebook-account-oculus-quest
Same policy though. You will lose all your games if you don't use Meta.
I love how VR mindbroke a small number of anons so thoroughly that they post the same shit over and over for years and have emotional meltdowns over strangers enjoying things they can't. I thank God for not making me like one of you absolute basketcases.
Cheap accessories are already on aliexpress, you can get silicone protectors, a case and better strap for about fifty bucks.
>imaginary virtual landscape where you can be anything you fricking want with no rules or limitations >"you should be yourself"
I'm guessing you also jerk off to the trainers instead of the Pokemon?
They use USBC to "tether" you to your PC, but at a cost of latency
>wanting wires in VR
Im simply above using the Facebook storefront to host all of my VR games. Even if I trusted them with that (I don't), I already have too many on Steam VR to go exclusively wireless/meta
you don't need to host or play any games on the quest itself, just virtual desktop to connect it wirelessly and use it as any old PCVR headset minus the wires
Can someone explain why they can't just have ultralight LCD screens on the head and then have you wear a battery backpack with all the processors and stuff? I ain't doing backflips I just want to game without a brick on my head.
I know they got the technology it's how phones work.
VR Backpacks used to be a thing, not sure why they fell out of favor, especially that VR lenses are getting lighter than ever with pancake lenses it seems like a perfect fit.
Legitimately more of a problem of stability. Putting a 4.5 kg backpack on is way more limiting on movement than a 1.1lbs helmet that's securely strapped to your face.
If the design of the backpack was much more form fitting I'd understand, but then you have a consumer problem where one size doesn't fit all and you need more variance on the thing customers strap to themselves.
Tldr it's a consumer product issue not a technological issue
VR Backpacks used to be a thing, not sure why they fell out of favor, especially that VR lenses are getting lighter than ever with pancake lenses it seems like a perfect fit.
They died out the moment people realized that a lot of VR is actually enjoyable sitting down in a chair.
I think a lot of people could wear it like this and it would be okay to sit with (although it would be problematic for people with a large bust or gut).
No you wouldn't and you would hurt your back. It doesn't even work for women they have boobs remember? It's basically strapping a 10 pound boobs harness on. DD breasts are 5 pounds for perspective.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You could just use it like a backpack when standing and leave it in your lap.
9 months ago
Anonymous
All VR backpacks can be docked and/or be laid flat on a desk. This is a stupid argument.
Then just dock the backpack when you're sitting down, it's not rocket science.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And you can get a backpack and put a 10 pound weight in it and realize how uncomfortable it is. Stop trying to make your idea work. There's a better solution to your idea, it's a direct WiFi 6 connection to your computer, the tradeoffs are worth the convenience of not having a 10 pounds to lug around.
Wake me up when it has 100% less Zucc
get fukt by the zucc
Call me when it's literally just a basically weightless transparent visor you put in front of your face.
Honestly I think the missed opportunity was going with VR instead of AR. Back when MS was shilling hololense as a future consumer product it looked pretty cool and would be the closest thing to having a holographic 3d display kind of thing.
moron
Zucc has proven to be a hardass chad. Even Elon runs from The Zucc.
>$500
>no eye tracking
is it at least a higher fov?
Yes, it is an upgrade.
>200$ more for improvements this marginal
I might get it since I'm still on the Rift S but if you have a Quest 2 and buy this you're moronic
It's a 12% increase in resolution, that's significant just in text fidelity and screen door effect. The pancake lenses are ALSO a significant improvement. If you have a Quest 2 you sell the Quest 2 and upgrade, it's not that hard.
I have a Quest 2 and I was hoping for a decent upgrade. Ah well.
I was also hoping for some actual fricking vidya to be revealed but so far shit was disappointing and the zucc focused on AI and other non-vidya garbage. I just want my GTA SA VR.
I wonder if team beef would be willing to do that
They'd be stupid to attract the eye of sauron like that
Except it’s worth it just for the pancake lenses and better performance. Or it would be if there were any to do with it, everyone with a Quest 2 has probably already played everything and put it away in a closet.
>say it's slimmer
>exact same weight
>only tenths of an inch smaller in some ways, over an inch larger in another
It looks like they just made it worse at isolating the screens
yeah looks like classic facebook marketing.
according to someone who got it early it feels 20-30% less heavy than Quest 2.
Also don't forget that Q2 was a single screen while Q3 is dual screens.
Honestly the dual panels was all I was hoping for.
I wonder if they solved the depth sensor letting you see thought clothing.
I'm just glad they're back to dual screens. VR is never going to take off proper if your headset cannot support every IPD in the human seeing range.
>VR is never going to take off proper if your headset cannot support every IPD in the human seeing range.
can still be done with a single screen if it was large enough
the reason they go with dual screens now is cause if you tilt the screens slightly you get more fov
see
it's actually heavier but because it's slimmer it sits closer so it feels more comfortable
same video also said the fov felt around the same, so if they didnt notice something immediate the fov upgrade must be very minor
It is slimmer because pancake lenses are significantly smaller than fresnel lenses. You can see with your eyes that the lens structure is smaller.
>goes from 2-3 hours to 2.9 hours
>same chipset they just added (gen 2)
woah
Not that most people can stand being in VR more than an hour at a time.
7nm->4nm is an appreciable process node jump
this is just fricked, weren't devs begging for 12gb so it would be same as Quest Pro?
I don’t think many devs actually updated for Quest Pro
yeah because what's the point of improving if the only difference is amount of ram and eye tracking(which devs probably knew Quest 3 woudln't/won't have)
>Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2
>Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2(Gen 2)
why not just name it something else?
Same reason there's 6-something versions of nVidia's Tegra 1.
I blame apple for this absurd markup on memory
Wouldn't it be hilarious I'd someone used the new Quest 3 with Virt-A-Mate loaded with e-girl mods?!
Hahaha, it gets me going every time I think about it lol!
It wouldn't be that funny. Don't close with it.
Oi oi oi.
What's with all the ruckus? Do you shitters not have a strong enough PC to run it?
Anon, the issue is that we unfortunately CAN run it.
it's not a proper VR game, everything about it is half baked and the results aren't worth the effort
it's an okay alernative to blender/SFM but that's it, in VR it's garbage
Ah, so the problem is ye lads want a game that plays itself for you. You don't want to put in the work and effort to make a scene.
Pathetic. You don't deserve vr e-girls. Let alone e-girl.
Your e-girl cards have been revoked until further notice.
ok
Cope non-pedo
What is the point of this being animated
to make you mad and bait this exact reply
I'm more confused than irritated tee bee hach sempachi
VAM fricking blows
seriously
git gud
>Virt-A-Mate
Is the joke that everyone would vomit on the spot?
So you can pay $150 more for 512 gigs of storage? That's like the cheapest part. Seems kind of price gougy.
Oddly enough you don't even need it since you can just stream PC to it or use a cable
The problem is there's no way to insert a new ssd or expand storage with a microsd. They're price gouging for the extra storage but if you don't get it, you are permanently stuck at 128gb. Phones do the same thing by removing microsd slots they can charge more for extra storage.
I got the 64gb Quest 2 and I thought that would be enough but it filled up pretty fast, even with most of my games on pc. Like you can fill that up on beat saber mods alone. And because meta's cloud saves kind of suck, I've lost precious save files by uninstalling games to make space.
It looks like they just removed the outer cover and and it's basically the same fricking thing.
>it looks like
>literally different specs
Looks literally don't matter you stupid fricking NPC.
>if a 50% better processor, color passthrough with AR and entirely different lenses are the same thing
>Yes, it is an upgrade.
only in cameras and lenses, the screen is barely larger, and the chip is still 5x slower than faster snapdragon chips
adreno 650 is still a budget mobile chip from 3 years ago, its not even a fast chip of its series, they should have at lest bumped it to adreno 680
It's absolutely a performance upgrade compared to the Quest 2, the rest of your comment is you blubbering about a headset you wouldn't buy.
>It's absolutely a performance upgrade compared to the Quest 2
improving a tiny bit over shit performance is still shit
>the rest of your comment is you blubbering about a headset you wouldn't buy.
what are you on about even? even if wont buy it why wouldnt it be better?
>tiny bit
Yeah you're full of shit.
its still 1 teraflop chip you moron, literally hardware from 15+ years ago tier
I don't care what you think, you wouldn't use a VR headset no matter the chip in it. You also have no brain so you think you can just put any powerful chip in the headset without any thought to heat or battery requirements. So you're complaining about a headset you won't buy that they're not putting a chip inside that won't even last an hour assuming it doesn't burn your face first.
apparently so
>There's two separate displays, boasting 2064x2208 resolution per eye (a near 30% increase on Quest) and a larger field of view of 110 degrees horizontal and 96 degrees vertical – even wider than Quest Pro
the quest 1 is the same
>the quest 1 is the same
that had 93 degrees
According to somebody who got an early copy and posted a bunch of pictures to prove it on reddit that's bullshit and it's narrower than the Quest Pro.
>trusting the opinion of a plebbit tard
none of the official hands-on seem to be noting that so I'll wait for more info
Any info of pixel density? More per eye and more FoV sounds like it might stay the same
slightly higher FOV at around 110 degrees vs quest 2's 80-90 along with slightly better hardware, but no FOV rendering
They claim Quest 2 is 96 whereas it's 90. So take meta's own 110 claim with a grain of salt.
According to reviewers, it's a nothingburger
actually all the previews still note that higher FOV, it's just the one guy on reddit who got an early unit that says the FOV is the same.
racing sim chads we keep winning
never had a standalone headset before is there a good point to having the 512gb of memory over the base model?
no it's best used with PC remote streaming
Even then it kind of blows.
Its like youtube compression. In some case same as native, but with shit like moving foilage, its full of microblocking.
Try skyrim for the lulz, its terrible
>Try skyrim for the lulz, its terrible
thats because you probably use router that doesnt have wifi 6
FO4 was even worse, something about the foliage makes the compression shit itself
nah I don't reckon. I have access to everything for free with the pirate app and I'm still on about 50gb used. anything really good goes over the link cable anyway. it doesn't install anything on the device.
get the apple one
i love how they used this vacant braindead stare to promote their product
>slightly thinner
Ah yes, that was the one thing that VR was missing. Clearly, everybody will jump on board the VR train THIS time because the headset is slightly lighter!
It's the same shit, different day.
Nobody cares, it's just going to be another expensive toy, and they're promoting this like a cryptobro promotes their NFTs.
They are advertising it to the Apple fanbase, after all.
damn, cyberpunk is actually becoming real
Without any of the coolness or edge. Just globohomosexual corporate slop
but anon any time someone tries to push back against the corps you throw a hissy fit because their the wrong colour
>ugly mutt as a model for your product
lol
VR ads are finkkino
Wait until you see the fat woman exercising with a Quest 3.
is this Black supposed to instill fear about the future?
Really i'm getting tempted to cave and put my racism aside to buy a Samsung one, maybe I should look into chink options though. Valve is prohibitively expensive here because they don't want to risk selling hardware to Australia themselves because somebody at the office of consumer protection has it out for them so there's EB Games as an extra middleman
Funny how they used to advertise vs how the advertise now.
>only 18% of the american population are black
>in Tv-Movie-Ads they are the 90% of actors
it's 12%
and black females are only 6%
>$3,500
i just want to watch porn and not feel like i'm wearing scuba goggles
that is Kudou Rara
monke
>me on the right
links ign
>have a nice day
there wasn't a kotaku article to link
>he actually thinks the cameras are $500 for eye tracking
Try $50. The reason there's no eye tracking is because no one would buy the Quest Pro which is a piece of shit. The only thing Quest Pro has going for it is eye tracking.
it's the cameras and processing that lead to the extra cost. the psvr is the only option for 550 dollars that does it, and that's because the gpu and cpu processing are done externally so the only extra cost is the cameras inside the headset
It's using the same processor as the Quest Pro, stop making up shit. So the cost is the cameras themselves, they already have it working with the XR2 Gen 2 with the Quest Pro. So it's purely so they can keep trying to sell you a piece of junk called the Quest Pro.
pro actually has the same processor as the quest 2 but unlocked a little, the q3 is using new silicon
Then that's even less of an excuse, the Quest 3 has a better processor.
pro doesn't have a depth sensor because they removed it last minute and the camera pass through is fake color.
pro is probably end of life now
>pro is probably end of life now
Don't forget they dropped the price by $500 after half a year
>fake color
the frick is fake color
cameras are capturing greyscale but get colorized by software
And it looks like shit. Actually worse than Quest 2 greyscale mode for making you dizzy.
jesus christ
Pro has a dedicated low-rez high-FoV webcam in the center to feed colour information to the passthrough cameras, and it comes off looking like a compressed JPG in that regards.
>It's using the same processor as the Quest Pro
wrong
>FOV
>110*
HOT DAMN, that's better than the pico 4
Yeah but some previews are saying the actual FOV feels the same as Q2
It's 110 by 96, so it's wider but shorter than the Pico 4
Bros, Imagine the e-girl porn...
>imagine
e-girl porn is already in a blissful state on the quest 2.
Do you have a source for this claim gentleman? A good scholar always cites his sources
I used PCVR for Koikatsu so I'm able to cup the flat e-girl chest while she bounces on my wiener like a frog
Not him but there's always Koikatsu. It has pretty good VR support. Can't play the story game mode in it though.
I was hoping the 512gb would have more ram too.
>wrong
correct
that is just the chip series name, the actual gpu in both is Adreno 650
it's not the same you moron, psvr isn't a standalone headset. it can cut costs by running off the assumption it will be connected to a ps5 and have access to its hardware for extra external processing power.
It is the same thing and it's not *competing* on the CPU, these XR2 processors are designed to handle different sources of inputs or do you really think your smartphone camera competes for the same CPU as the game you're playing. These chips are SPECIFICALLY designed to handle many camera feeds (up to 10).
psvr does onboard tracking like a standalone headset, it then sends that tracking data to the ps5 to process and render the game. not having to be a self-contained headset allows them to keep the price cheap, another way of looking at it is that it's a 1000 or more dollar headset like every standalone headset with eye tracking on the market due to the ps5 requirement to run it.
In case you need a VR shill's impressions on the Q3 vs Q2.
Huh, I thought Norm left Tested a while ago.
Do i watch the asian's video or the white dude's?
Watch the asian chicks.
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hell yeah
I will not buy another headset that requires the oculus software that keeps my monitors from going to sleep, fricks up my audio device settings, and prevents me from migrating to linux.
get oculus tray tool
I think I tried that for a while but had trouble setting up guardian without reenabling oculus or something.
>dude record vertical video of a car race with your glasses
i hate the future
I missed everything, did they at least show GTA SA?
>40% slimmer (does not account for 100% of the product)
>40% slimmer, but same exact weight
Black person wut
The lens takes up space, not weight.
congratulations private we've lightened your pack by 20lbs with advanced materials. You can now carry 20lbs more ammunition!
if you look at the picture all they did is remove some of the white plastic parts
40% is a lie and the picture is highly misleading
It's slimmed by only a small margin but the face gasket interface design is changed to make it look slimmer
How does VR feel like it's progressing quickly and at a snails pace at the same time. The rift came out 10 years ago and while admittedly the specs have improved it's still nowhere close to what they've been promising forever.
we're chasing adorability, leading to lackluster hardware and unappealing software
eh. it took 20 years for some genius to eliminate the ball from a mouse.
well, it's been 30 years since the first VR headsets if you want to play that game
Looks good
>israelitebook
Oh, never mind.
>ties to facebook
hard pass
No games
Oh boy a new headset to play no games on.
>requires facebook(meta) account
still a no for me
at least the previous version was subsidized because they wanted my data now they want my data and full price to spy on me
as I understand it you don't need a faceberg account anymore just a meta account
Yeah and it's not twitter anymore it's X now
moron
reversers green
>faceberg account
>meta account
The fact that normalBlack folk think there is any difference between the two is fricking mindboggling.
I converted the old oculus account into meta account and zuck didn't need my phone number
>it's called meta now so it's ok
Honestly amazing.
I always thought corporate rebranding was stupid because everybody knows it's the same fricking thing with a different name but apparently it does work on souless coomsumers
I don't think you get what we're saying my man, you don't need to give them the account where you keep up with all your high school/college friends and play bad time gated flashgames anymore anon
I never gave any info to my computer screen or a mouse or keyboard, why this should be different?
you gave it to valve
has anyone here actually compared these wireless headsets with a wired headset like the early oculus or Index?
im wondering if the tracking and performance works well. mostly concerned that there would be some kind of delay when using it for your PC.
wireless is completely fine for vrchat and porn
tracking has continuously gotten better since, latency and compression though are the scourge of wireless headsets.
that sucks, that's a big dealbreaker for me if there's bad latency on wireless. i usually play flightsims or FPS games in vr so i need something with no delay.
do they have cables that you can use to plug in to remove the delay for the meta? or is it wireless only
you can plug it in with a USB-C cable but I don't know how much better it is
get a valve index
you can plug quest 2 to pc, just make sure you have usb 3.0 cable
It's not latency, it's compression. Wireless compresses a video feed. You can still use a USB cable and get better bandwidth.
There's both. I believe Eleven TT dev recommend Quest players use the Quest app instead of play through PC due to latency and the need to track a fast moving ping pong ball.
It's because very few people are using the WiFi 6 dongle or properly setting up their WiFi network. You probably shouldn't attempt to stream your PC to your Quest through your router that is on the other side of your house.
you get stuck with terrible questlink app if you use cable. I'm still don't understand why virtual desktop doesn't support cable.
if you're using the hand controllers I don't think it's very important because they are inherently quite laggy. if you're using other peripherals you might notice it more.
He's an idiot, any decent wifi 6 router is fine. Owned a quest 2 for years. Boyfriend also owns a quest pro and we're in vr daily cuz furgays. Do you really think us mega autists would use something shitty?
I think some people have exceptionally lower standards than others.
We're both content creators and devs who scream at the sight of the smallest of bugs. Our shit always works.
>that picture demonstrates high quality standards
Definitely doesn't account for taste.
What is wrong with the Gantz like body suit I made? It's a simple sci-fi that wasn't too hard to make normal maps for. Also, my fursona is amazing, it has simple elegant design with zero trashy sparkled colors, so anyone who likes that shit or dislikes my fursona simply has bad tastes.
Texture blending could use some work.
>gay furhomosexualry game
>virtually bug free
minus the poz I guess
I would rather play another 50 hours of fallout 76 than your "flawlessly performing game"
The quest tracking is great, the only issue with inside out tracking is controller occlusion when out of view for too long. And issue that's resolved entirely with the pro controllers. As someone who's used a wide variety of headsets there is absolutely nothing wrong with the devices, especially for what you get.
I'm not saying Inside Out isn't great, for 99.9% of people Quest 2, Quest 3, Quest Pro tracking is fine. Quest Pro of course being the best since the controllers are self tracking. I'm saying that for PC connectivity it goes: Display Port -> USB -> WiFi 6 Direct -> WiFi 6 -> Please Don't WiFi.
If you are really going to try to act like a standalone only device isn't a huge factor and appeal of the headset, you're a fricking idiot. I used my quest 2 daily on the toilet and during transit to play ps2 games and plenty of other emulated titles. I expect even better experience with the quest 3 for this. It is a full device without any pc assistance.
The quality of Quest 2 games is laughably bad. Have you seen the dogshit graphics and gameplay of Saints and Sinners vs PC? Quest games are awful when compared to their PC versions.
Did you not even read my statement? You can sideload any android application onto it and it'll run even better than on a flagship phone due to the powerful soc. And bad ports are just bad ports, bonelabs clearly demonstrated otherwise, and over 10 million vrchat players are accessing the game without a pc. Nobody is playing whatever the frick else you think is real.
Imagine playing VR Chat on the Quest lmao. This level of cope holy shit just say you're too poor to own a PC and you're making due with scraps.
10 million still revolutionized your shitty niche hobby and made it actually marketable to the mainstream while establishing a new standard for even accessing said technology. When you compare it to outdated jank like anything using base stations or dogshit lighthouse systems that can occluded far worse than any inside out I've seen, then yes it was an amazing headset. It was so amazing I bought 5 of em so I could spread the tech to my friends. Hope it makes you seethe, gonna buy the quest 3 too. Call me when the Deckard comes out or get announced, otherwise there isn't even close competition to meta.
I don't know why you're so butthurt about this. I get it anon, you're too poor to own a gaming PC. But don't act like that Kroger dogfood you're eating is better than the steak they serve on PC.
I have an rtx 3090 pc, moron. I just know what is clearly the superior headset and trying to sell someone a pcvr only device that uses lighthouses still in 2023, is fricking stupid. You are fricking vapidly stupid for doing so. What little crumbs of shitty games that ever come out for your shit device will unfortunately be a byproduct of the meta market. I want valve to badly fricking make their own standalone headset to finally offer competition, but it does not exist. The only close second would be the pick 4 pro, but you can't even sideload standalone vr games onto it despite having the same chip, so you'd be stuck with only emulators. The one thing I like about the Pico 4 though is the usb-c actually has hdmi output, meaning you can just use it like any normal android console with retroarch. I would buy one, but I want the new xr2 gen 2 chip to play with. I'm curious what it'll run totk at.
>You can sideload any android application onto it and it'll run even better than on a flagship phone due to the powerful soc
That's not how an SoC works.
The XR2 is just derived from the Snapdragon 865.
The xr2 does not have the same gpu as the 865, kindly shutup. I actually use the device as my daily driver, so I can assure you the thing gets 18fps in totk. Kys.
>The xr2 does not have the same gpu as the 865
Yeah it does, they both use the Adreno 650
don't listen to this anon, furgays who play vr chat have low standards.
simgays are the true autismos of the vr space
My TP-Link Wi-Fi 6 router stutters like a b***h and I've heard others say the same.
Vr has a lot of potential human dont they focus more on other things vr could do. This way they can get more users and more people will buy it. This will then increase the industry.
It has lot of potential in arts like 3d graphic design. Maybe even cad designs. Films you could have a mmo like cinema where you can watch a film with random strangers or ai generated celebs or your ai gf it might be the key to combating loneliness. It can also be used for teaching. Imagjnenbeing able to watch a sports game from the stadium or the pitch with vr. Cuckold porn could be interactive. I can think of limitless possibilities
>It has lot of potential in arts like 3d graphic design
Blender VR is a thing
industry and business grade products do exist, but they don't piss in the general public's direction for less than $2 million.
No OLED, not buying.
7 Year Old Oculus Rift is still better for porn, due to realistic colors/blacks.
I heckin' love mura, it looks great when you strap an OLED next to your eyeballs!
Was there even any Mura reports with PSVR2
There was "the screen is dogshit and makes you sick" reports.
why are OLEDgays so obsessed with the Blacks?
Because it makes colors pop while getting rid of the gray overlay.
another 4chinner spreading misinformation
I have a quest pro coming from a rift S
and the quality jump has been tremendous
everything has been an upgrade including the colors
frick you
Sony is so dead.
maybe i don't know RELEASE MORE PSVR2 GAMES?!
PSVR2 is still the best headset out there.
Doesn't really matter when the PS5 has no VR games kek. Maybe if someone manages to make it work on PC (not happening).
>Maybe if someone manages to make it work on PC (not happening).
Actually they've made some progress with that
https://twitter.com/iVRy_VR/status/1680416154890665984
I understand they want it as a PS5 to sell consoles, but who the frick would buy a PS5 and a headset for PSVR? Just open it up to work on windows and you suddenly can be a big contender in headset manufacturing.
You would have to be a giant fricking moron to get VR on console, ever.
Alyx and B&S destory those two lmfao, plus PC gets the RE 2 remake mod
Wrong. Alyx is boring and one of the few games I refunded.
RE Engine mods are solid but RE4 VR and RE8 VR actual modes by Capcom are just better.
They're not 'better' they're functionally the same thing. It's why RE7 is so much better on PC than PSVR.
Ok you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Ok, but you're the one coping.
There is a pretty fricking big difference. The moment these mods let me dual wield, or swap my gun hand by simply tossing a weapon from one to another etc is when they are equal to the real versions. Not to mention all the reload shit.
I would like the extra mile that would being able to drop weapons from being hit to add an extra layer of shit to the combat but its fine as is.
You are probably talking to a turbohomosexual that PAYS for shit like the cyberpunk "vr" mod that only displays the game on your headset while you still have to use keyboard+mouse.
I'd play a lot of 2D games if all they had was a 3D VR mode. The immersion factor inside of a headset is great.
Besides the horrendous FOV and resolution of strapping cardboard "vr" with a phone to your head, that's is what you are describing, if you cant pick shit from your inventory within holsters in 3d space its not even vr gaming.
>3D VR video isn't immersive
just say you've never put on a VR headset before
>if you cant pick shit from your inventory within holsters in 3d space its not even vr gaming.
Motion controls are a gimmick. They're not what makes VR great and shoehorning it into every game simply because you can is exactly why the VR library consists exclusively of directionless tech demos outside of examples you can count on one hand.
Not every game needs manual reloading.
Not every game needs manual sword swings.
Not every game needs physical buttons you can press in VR space.
Not every game needs floating screens taped to your wrist.
Everyone managed to figure this out two decades ago with the Wii but here we are with history repeating itself.
You need to feel like a part of the world, and holding a controller to do 95% of the gameplay with the 5% being moving the head is absolutely not it. I don't need to wipe my ass in VR, but something like Into the Radius is absolutely great for being able to interact with shit, loot stuff and position it in my backpack etc and is only held back by being a indie title with no budget to get visuals or enemy animations on par with even Saints and Sinners
If I am shooting a gun in a RE VR mode, I sure as hell want manual reloading and being able to shoot and use my knife at the same time.
Not that anon, but manual loading and aiming is great but when you get shit like RE's gesture-based inventory it becomes annoying and gimmicky. And melee combat in any VR game just feels awful, like I'm fighting ghosts. So motion controls aren't always a good thing.
Gesture based is completely fine. X weapon is left shoulder, Y weapon is right shoulder. Grenade chest, ammo left waist. Not an issue at all and it adds to the gameplay by needing to actually remember and grab shit at the right time. Blade and Sorc is the only game I find melee to be atleast passable in, and its the one that has the most time spent on making that as solid as possible.
Gesture-based inventory adds to the gameplay in the same way waggle added to Twilight Princess.
I mean in RE4 VR IIRC you can hold a button which brings up a radial wheel if you want that.
>here we are with history repeating itself.
Games were never able to do any of these things before, so this is all new territory. I agree that very game doesn't need it, but these all works very well in games when it fits the goals of the game.
>Not every game needs manual reloading.
This is true. The newer doom games don't have reloading and they are flat.
>Not every game needs manual sword swings.
>Not every game needs physical buttons you can press in VR space.
No they generally do. Pressing a button to watch your arms do something your real arms aren't doing is moronic in VR.
>Not every game needs floating screens taped to your wrist.
Sure but this is often a matter of convenience.
Anyway when we have eyetracking some of this stuff will be aleviated for you. It will be normal to look at buttons instead of reaching for them depending on the application.
GT7 and RE8 alone beat out 99% of the shit on PC.
Wrong. RE8 is boring and one of the few games I refunded.
Sony is paying capcom to port their games to VR and I'm fricking jealous. RE8 with manual reload and proper guns looks so fricking sick. I played the praydog mod on PC and while the game looks good, it plays just ok. Aiming is clunk, menuing is clunk.
>can't use it to play VAM
>can't use it to play fan ports
wholly irrelevant to me
no it isn't and it never was. It was just ok for the price point
Does it come with a muzzle and noise cancelling headphones as well as a chair you can strap yourself to and be injected with Feel Good syrup?
no those are sold separately
Whats the best headset for PC streaming?
the technology of these devices literally never improved dramatically enough from my CV1 that i would consider spending another 200-1000 dollars on an upgrade just to play fricking beatsaber with a higher resolution for 15-30 minutes until i get bored or tired and then forget i have one because there are no worth while experiences outside of that to come back to
it's been nearly 10 years and nothings changed
>the technology of these devices literally never improved dramatically enough from my CV1
Hand controllers
Not shit resolution
and these change the lack of games and literal same 5 scenarios that you interact with in the literal no new games in 2-3 years how exactly?
>Outside of mixed reality color passthrough with AR capabilities, pancake lenses, four times the resolution, no screen door effect, in a standalone headset that requires no external cameras for tracking you mean.
none of these things change or improve things dramatically enough for me to want to play through the 1 hour campaign of arizona sunshine again, anon. nothing about the experience changes at all. all of those improvements, while certainly nice for someone just buying their first headset, are actually cool, it's still the same old shit.
>play a chatroom
so again, like i said, nothing has changed in the last 10 years
>the 1 hour campaign of arizona sunshine
you know there's more games now than arizona sunshine, right?
Like the devs of arizona sunshine even made a new game themselves.
oh yeah? what did they make? another game where you shoot stuff? truly epic experience it's really blowing my socks off doing that again for the 30th time
i'm sure it's a nice lengthy experience as well.
>another game where you shoot stuff? truly epic experience
You're the one who said you just played Arizona Sunshine over and over instead of finding other games
i said no such thing. i implied that was kind of my only option. there's been nothing no or innovative as far as software is concerned for vr, so why the frick would i care about the hardware improvements?
Ah yes the Ganker gamer who plays no games.
>another game where you shoot stuff?
Bro its time to stop posting
>what did they make?
Another pile of shit.
tibeh eyeumo after the fall had some big problems with the midgame grind
taking the infinite shotgun exploit out made it objectively less fun
I hoped they would add more stuff in patches but apparently now theyre just making arizona sunshine 2
>thinks it's a chatroom
Okay moron, ignore upon scripting and act like all the mega cool game themed and exploration content isn't there. Ignore the cooler stuff that fricks with perspective and dimensions and portals and all the tech, just pretend it doesn't exist and that vrchat is just anime girls talking in black cats. You are fricking stupid.
Getting drunk and playing VR Chat is pretty fun. That alone is worth the price of VR.
you're eyes can do that? mine completely break the vr effect at a certain level of drunkenness and it's just two disconnected screens my brain can't merge together anymore
I'm not black out drunk, just a couple shots in. And yes, played beer pong that way.
it's pretty amazing "going to the bar" with real life friends that moved across the country and being so racist we get kicked out then starting the cycle over and over again
>VR Chat
full of children and pedophiles. which one are you?
One time I had children talking sexual around me in VR Chat and it was extremely awkward, noped right out of there. I tend to hang out where adults are while drunk.
Outside of mixed reality color passthrough with AR capabilities, pancake lenses, four times the resolution, no screen door effect, in a standalone headset that requires no external cameras for tracking you mean. Yeah, Quest 3 is just the CV1 repackaged.
Play vrchat you fricking loser. I got to drive around San Andreas in vrchat while smoking a cigarette and shooting a gun. You aren't even alive until you have done half the cool shit I've done in pcvr vrchat.
iphones stagnated, so vr stagnated
Quest headsets run on android not iOS
oh, I was memeing about all smartphones being iphones
Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.
hes literally me for real for real
Looks cool, I really want to upgrade my Rift S but I'll wait for whatever Valve does next at this rate.
>$500
>still attached to facebook
Lol
Lmao even
If I only want this for porn, should I get a Quest 2 or is the 3 actually worth it?
Or, is some other headset better? I don't care care about VR games, just the smut.
That depends, do you like the Blacks?
>If I only want this for porn, should I get a Quest 2 or is the 3 actually worth it?
3 is worth it because of higher resolution and better lenses.
buy a used Quest 1 for $90 or something and save yourself the money
Quest 1 is actually dogshit and shouldn't be recommended to anyone outside of being a collector's item. It's like recommending a GBA gen 1 over a GBA SP.
Just wait for Valve's upcoming headset announcement and then you can make a decision. Deckard will likely be way better but twice as expensive.
Varjo XR3 $6500 upfront and then $1500 yearly subscription+tip
yeah definitely worth it for me, VR + onahole is pretty much better than sex. This one has good specs, high res and decent FOV.
Warning though, you pretty much need 6k or 8K videos to have it be worth it, probably will need to buy a sub to vrporn.com, think all the big vr studios have their stuff there. Maybe you can find torrents, but the free 4k stuff doesn't cut it, looks like shit
>6k or 8k videos
Does that even make a difference when the Quest is 1832 x 1900?
Yes since the videos are 180 or 360 degrees so they’re stretched out wide.
Not worth $500 just for porn it gets boring. Sure it's nice seeing breasts in VR but the games aren't that good and porn is only pro stuff made by bogged people and they only do 2 positions because it's pov only.
Wake me when we get the nervegear rig
>Better FOV, resolution, refresh rate, SoC, passthrough, and mixed reality capabilities than the Quest Pro despite costing 3x less
Man they really fricked up with the Quest Pro, didn't they.
Only their biggest fans bought the Quest Pro
Imagine how they feel now
I bought the Pro when they dropped the price. I'm mad about the color passthrough. B-but at least I have eye tracking.
don't worry though the pro has epic professional color grading! and long term support(unless we cancel it 5 months after launch lmao)
>buy quest 2
>play Alyx
>it's fun
>try into the void
>it's fun
>try walking dead
>its ok
>return headset for full cost
what's the point when there's literally nothing to play
>You will consoom Meta/Suckemberg product
>you will give willingly your privacy
>you will give willingly your biometrics
>you will comply
Imagine buying the quest pro lol. Instantly abandoned and cucked. Literally Q3 is better in every way, except eye tracking, which no software uses because you need a $1000 headset for it.
They gave out free quest pros to everyone at a roblox developer convention because they were so desperate to get rid of them lol.
>Instantly abandoned and cucked.
just like the Q1 and RiftS
Actually the Q1 was supported for a pretty long time, with the first game only available on Q2 not arriving until a year after that launched.
Even now after it’s been discontinued and not getting any more updates there’s still new releases that work on Q1.
Virtual desktop just got facial tracking support for quest pro yesterday so now the quest pro is an amazing headset again.
Amazing for VR chat trannies. Not so useful for games.
Why the frick would you buy a facial tracking headset with full knowledge that it's only for social experiences? Kinda pointless to even reply.
>Amazing for VR chat trannies.
Wouldn't they have to sacrifice FBT?
Couldn't you just strap the Pro Controllers to your feet and then use hand tracking for full body tracking?
what happens to your hands when you decide to rest them at your side
Couldn't that just be the default model state?
Facial tracking via wireless is too slow for foveated rendering unfortunately. VRChat trannies already had means of wirelessly relaying the facial tracking data for social shit as well.
>already had means
Airlink is worthless. Anyone who has used either will tell you that virtual desktop is the only viable way to use to pc in vr.
They were already using VD. I was just referring to software you could sideload onto the Quest Pro which relays the face/eye-data to your PC. All VD did was save people the hassle of needing to do that.
What sideloaded software are you talking about? You could not use facial tracking on virtual desktop before the update.
I have a Rift 1 and tried flight sims and the picture quality wasn't anywhere close to playable for me. Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
I play DCS & Project Wingman wirelessly with virtual desktop on my quest 2 and I think the quality is really good.
I have a 3080ti pc.
you actually don't have to have monster pc to play wirelessly through quest air link
the only problem is that you don't get direct displayport but it's processed through quest
it pretty means you get a bit worse clarity and tiny latency, but the resolution itself makes it up
with pancake lenses I imagine it's gonna look amazing
Quest 2 still isn't as sharp as I'd like for flight sims.
>Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
Ideally a GPU with nvenc2 encoding, which is any modern RTX card. I can't recall if Oculus' software made use of AMD's modern equivalent
>Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
I have a 3070ti and I play games flawlessly
>I have a 3070ti and I play games flawlessly
Yeah, and you also pass as a woman. Not.
Rent free
Sooner or later you will get tired of living in lies.
Ironic. A 3070ti isnt too weak for VR. It is true you arent a woman though
>A 3070ti isnt too weak for VR
It is, if you are playing at acceptable rendering resolution.
>It is true you arent a woman though
I know, I've never even doubted it for a minute.
>It is, if you are playing at acceptable rendering resolution.
source
>I know, I've never even doubted it for a minute.
Considering you brought it up out of nowhere I'd say your estrogen pills arent working (and never will work)
>source
I know, because I've had 3070 before. It wasn't anywhere near enough for Q2.
Difference between 3070 and 3070ti is less than 10%.
>Considering you brought it up out of nowhere
You are the one who is denying reality here. And you also use VR. So yeah, it wasn't out of nowhere.
You're a moron, 3070 is fine for vr. Especially at the native res for the quest 2.
It isn't, you fricking moronic troony.
Blurry mess which makes ironsights impossible to use is not acceptable for people with standards.
>native res for the quest 2.
"Native" rendering res is max resolution supported by airlink and vd (5376x2784 to be exact). It's 140% of panel res to compensate for lens distortion.
Everything else is less than native.
And you are not getting native res with 3070ti at acceptable framerates, it's just not going to happen.
I literally own a rtx 3070 and played vertigo 2 on high at native res, 90hz without any drops, you are so delusional it's insane.
Record a webm with framegraph visible, you moronic lying c**t.
I know for a fact that you are lying.
Native res is only 18xx not 25x, barrel distortion is a total fricking meme, all you're doing is adding downlscaling or super sampling. The panel inside the device isn't a cat, Mongolia. It's a single lcd panel with a fixed resolution. Imagine actually being so stupid that you don't even understand how an lcd panel works.
NTA but you're running under native, will look like shit. your 3070 is pissing blood trying to run games lol
It's different from how you render things in flatscreen you fricking moron. It's not a meme at all and literally the entire industry knows and works around it.
moron
Mongloid. I bet you think the distortion used to compensate for the physical lens is the same for different lenses too.
I bet you're a moron, where do I cash in the chips?
>source: My estrogen shitting blown out butthole
LMFAO
>t. troony who is denying reality tries to project
sad to see it
>t. troony who projected and cant even back up his bullshit
KEK
You can't prove a negative, moron.
Show a recording where it's enough to make me eat my words if you are so sure.
You wouldn't do it, because it's simply impossible.
Vertigo2, Pavlov, ItR. The choice of game is up to you.
You don't know shit. Distortion correction is not a meme.
Other fresnel headsets don't lie, even index lists 140% of panel res as 100% in steamvr.
And
> The panel inside the device isn't a cat, Mongolia. It's a single lcd panel with a fixed resolution
Oh, I just read this shit. You are fricking moronic indeed. After distortion the pixels in the middle get stretched, just like your butthole. To compensate for that you HAVE to render at at least 140% to get the middle of the picture back closer to 1:1 rendered pixel to panel pixel.
Forgot the pic.
>cant find anything on YT or any site to back up his bullshit
>n-no you have to jump through 100 hoops to prove my bullshit wrong
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK trannies are wild
Yikes.
Meant for
you're not very good at this are you anon?
You mean like not being able to back up your bullshit bad? Nah Im not that bad
>he thinks the pixels are somehow bigger or smaller at different parts of the lcd. The panel is a fixed resolution, this is a solid fact of life. I don't care if your shitty non pancake lenses distort the center pixels, the panel itself isn't changing. All you are doing by running games at a higher resolution than natively being rendered by that panel is downsampling it as a form aliasing to smoothen the lines. You won't change my mind and I'm very confident being the only person in the room to understand this, and doesn't fall for the distortion aliasing meme and pretend a lcd can suddenly have an adaptive resolution.
Learn what distortion correction does and stop embarrassing yourself.
Not even reading all that shit you typed.
Here, I will even give your moronic ass a link
?feature=shared&t=205
it fixes lens distortion and not LCD panel distortion.
Doesn't fix shit, don't even need to click your link. Supersampling to make your shit look better than the intended pixel density of the panel is doing exactly that, and the 3070 can run the quest 2 at its native per eye resolution without a problem. I accept your concessions, have a nice day.
Yeah, run after getting BTFO, moron.
Keep supersampling and thinking it's somehow the native resolution of the headset, idiot.
What specifically did Carmack do for VR anyway?
Herded cats at oculus/facebook.
compression
lol it isn't supersampling.
It's higher than the native res of the panel, so it's downsampling a higher than native res of the panel. It's exactly what it is. Native res of the quest 2 is pretty low, not even 2k per eye.
https://twitter.com/volgaksoy/status/1328145529042137088
The people who made the fricking thing disagree with you. Read the link and shut the frick up you idiot.
Not reading shit, I know how an lcd panel works, dumb zooming. Quest 2 native res that is 18xx, the barrel distortion occurs in the physical space between the display and the lens, not internally within the display. Supersampling an 18xx display to 27xx definitely improves visual quality but is by large a compensation for a physical problem. Nothing under the sun will change that fact of life. Now cope eternally.
moronic Black person lol
Facts don't care about your feelings, my Iq is 147. Keep coping and being delusional to think an lcd panel can have a variable dpi or ppi without swapping the panel entirely. You are beyond delusional.
I can't teach you because you are refusing to read, so I can only say one thing.
Frick off, moron.
You're the moron, now you frick off. I already did my research into how Basic TN LCD panels work. You just believe in software mitigation magic for physical issues because you're a fricking moron.
not my anon but stop derailing the shitty quest thread its the only one we have
imagine being so sure of yourself while being so moronic at the same time.
I wonder what it's going to be like when mr cleverclogs here gets shown he's a mong?
>source: My estrogen shitting blown out butthole
LMFAO
>source
both my Pico4 and Reverb G2's default SteamVR resolution is 3800x3800 90hz.
I don't think your 3070 is going to run VR home screen at that resolution. lol
>Do you need a monster PC to play PC games through a Quest via USB C?
I played Alyx with a 1060 just fine, but it was with the Rift.
Now i have a Quest 2 and it's mostly the same in terms of specs, but the image quality is a big step up, tbh.
Played Sturmovik and Projuct Wingman with it and it was fantastic.
A 1060?!
Or maybe it was a 970 even, can't remember which one.
I have a 3070 now anyway.
>IL2
How is this? I just started getting into VTOL VR and it's amazing. Are there any other games with fully simulated wienerpits or will I be using a keyboard for everything else?
IL2 has no simulated controls, VR is just an after-thought for it.
The problem is text in wienerpits is designed for men with healthy vision looking at them with their real eyes. We are a long ways away from text being readable without bending down hilariously close to the dash. Also good luck seeing enemy planes at a distance. Imagine trying to get your wings to be a fighter pilot but you have to read the eye chart with a VR headset. It's fricked.
I recommend VTOL VR because it's an arcade simulator hybrid with fictional wienerpits designed for the current state of VR. Big text, big controls. Last I heard you don't play it with HOTAS though, just motion controllers and rudder pedals if you have them, so be ready for that.
>Also good luck seeing enemy planes at a distance.
This is my chief problem. You can turn on labels, but in WW2 sims it defeats the immersion factor.
>fictional wienerpits designed for the current state of VR.
It's a pretty amazing experience. The control stick controls are a bit fricked imo. It's pretty unintuitive how you have to move the motion controls compared to everything else you do with that hand. Still definitely worth it. Wish my friends had VR to play with me.
>Zuck says "Ships August 10th"
>Big screen behind him says "OCTOBER 10th"
Does this prove that he's human?
I've never seen him complete a captcha
I bought.
Wait you still gotta pay sales tax?
Guess £480 isn’t that bad of a conversion.
Americans try to trick the world that they get cheap goods compared to the rest of western countries but they conveniently forgot about sales tax when telling you pricings.
B-but muh newegg doesn't charge sales tax!
>some states in the US doesn't have sales tax
and its fricking awesome
The best of both worlds is live in a state with no income tax but close to a border with a state with no sales tax. Washington/Oregon is a good example.
or live in NH that has no state income tax, and no sales tax
Can you wear over-ear headphones or does the strap prevent it?
Default strap is fine, but custom straps seem to have issues.
so that means there's good VR games releasing with it right?
right?
I'm not going to be forced to play the exact same five games that I've been playing for five years, right?
It's a you problem if you can't find VR games that interests you
>it's a you problem if you don't want to play house flipper pets vr, jank cube VR or the critically aclaimed golf it
you will always be a Black person and I have no issues with it, but do not speak to me ever again
You get assassins creed vr. Das about it.
Games for this feel?
Abby's game
sauce
???
Koikatsu
Wildlife
That's really it. The other furry VR games are patreon scams.
watch as all 5 "Quest 3" games turn out to be basically tech demos to show off the new features and the world goes back to playing Quest 2 hardware games
They already said no Quest 3 games would be out until next year
ha ha really. It's dead already.
The Quest 2 didn’t get any games until a year after release
it still hasn't got any good games so who cares?
I thought everyone just learned to deal with the size of the headset. What's the point in shrinking it? The issue was that the gameplay and experience sucked once the novelty wore off. It wasn't because the headset was too heavy or too big, it was because VR games fricking suck.
Its more the weight distribution sucked without custom stuff. Its not comfortable for long periods of time with the default shit IMO
I only have a 3080ti. Not strong enough to play VR unfortunately. I'll wait a few more years before I get one.
Idiot
gaben's silence is deafening
So with Mixed Reality you can watch movies on a fake projected screen on your actual wall? Would the quality be the same or worse than just watching in a virtual desktop?
So I should wait for Deckard right?
just buy anything but meta
Of valve didnt make it i dont give a shit.
I'm going for the 512gb version. What do you think?
Are quest game sizes getting that big?
Look how much more you're paying just for storage space. Look.
Should the better chip on the Q3 mean better decoding and better image or latency when using pcvr?
Any good new VR games announced? I like Alyx but it doesn't seem like any big VR originals have been announced since.
Did they say anything about PCVR on the Quest 3? Like will the link cables for the Quest 2 work?
>still only elite beat saber
deader than 3d tvs
>Google glasses part 2 bogaloo
I unironically want those
I skimmed through and nearly 3 hours of video and very little of it was footage of games. How appropriate.
Is this quest 3 worth it if I want a wireless system to watch movies in bed + VR chat with the boys? Money isn't an issue I'm just very uneducated on what I need for full body tracking.
>put on headset
>start making scene i'm gonna jack off to for a total of like 3 minutes, maybe
>halfway through my headset's battery dies
great game great experience we're all such plebs for choosing not to put up with it
STOP TRYING TO MAKE VR HAPPEN
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
right, AR is gonna happen
This.
It is funny to watch the believers get riled up every time there's a new cuckgoggle though
vr is so fetch
are you able to play steam games with it?
When you try and run a Steam game Mark Zuckerbergs animated characters appears in front of you waving his finger "nu uh uuuuh!"
yes, as long as youre connected to a PC. you cant load up steam on the actual device though if that makes sense.
Maybe it's a bit less uncomfortable now?
Still the state the Quest 2 was in like 2 months ago was fricking terrible so I don't see myself paying for this.
That's even before thinking about VR games, all of which suck hard.
>That's even before thinking about VR games, all of which suck hard.
Onward was really good before they butchered it for the Quest $$$
The entire platform right now is just
>FPS games
>first person sword & ragdolls games
>shitty Beat Saber clones
None of which are any fun.
Racers are the closest to polish on the platform and they're more fun playing without VR.
What are you talking about, nothing is more exhilarating than a shooter in VR. Ghosts of Tabor is chef's kiss.
>None of which are any fun.
They're tons of fun stop coping
I didn't say some of them weren't fun. I just said GT7 and RE8 are better.
But they arent though, I do understand how you'd think that though given you spent $1k on a platform with less than 200 games. Embarrassing
I'm not a poorgay like you and have a PC and Quest 2 as well. GT7 in particular is better than anything on PC VR. Alyx was shit, deal with it.
Sounds like you made a shit purchase and need to cope. Alyx mogs literally everything on PS thats why you homosexuals beg for it. LMAO!
>Sounds like you made a shit purchase
Yeah, Alyx. Thankfully I refunded it.
I can just imagine how hard it hit you when you realized it destroyed anything on psvr. mustve hurt
Looks pretty cool. Are there any other simulators that have a simulated wienerpit like VTOL?
>Racers are the closest to polish on the platform and they're more fun playing without VR.
You were doing a good job then you broke down and wrote this cope at the end of your post right before you were home free
Is this the new best headset for gooning?
People use vr headsets to post on SA?
>VR "gaming"
anyone play last labyrinth.
I did.
im glad someone did.
yeah
What am I looking at? Is this pedo-friendly game?
it's got a silent hill asthetic and very dark.
pretty cool
>Sony
So anti-pedo game. Gotcha. Should have led with that.
nah it's not a sony game it's on steam I just can't find the trailer for it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/979400/Last_Labyrinth/
It's on PC too.
Sony doesn't endorse e-girl games. So you can bet your butthole this game has no pedo stuff
Another casualty of the information war. Completely mindbroken.
Always sad to see.
Damn he should have fricked her in front of me. NTR vr porn would be really amazing.
>Sony
>full of liberals
>anti-pedo game.
?
...they literally censor every Japanese/anime game, especially e-girl games.
yes thats what pedophiles tend to do
They also go to church. lol
Pedos congregate in positions that puts you near children. Look at all the diddlings that have happened in schools. The first guy posted was a journalist, so who knows how he had access to children.
At what point did it cross your minds that it was 'okay' to insult pedos? You need to watch your mouths and show them some damn respect.
You non-pedos make me sick.
>myst
>but with a e-girl
not bad
>myst has brutal deaths
is it worth playing, i know its on vr as well
I bought the bundle with that and Tales from Onogoro or whatever it's called. They're both extremely mediocre.
man you really sound cynical
They're just not good games. Both have extremely simplistic and the best things about them are the girls. Labyrinth at least has a few ok puzzles but it's still just nodding your head and looking at shit. It's a complete waste of the VR format.
what vr games do you recoomend that are similar to that , i want a puzzle escape room type of deal.
I haven't played any others like that. I'd kill for a good VR escape the room game but it hasn't been made yet.
Nta but the only one I played and enjoyed was The Room VR: A Dark Matter
Nobody really talks about this but if you have a GPU that has been made past like 2018 you can play any VR game ever, and even some mobile laptop GPU's can do it these days, the trick is just making use of the GPU in the headset to force video upscaling
If you buy Virtual desktop you can force on >upscaling and >frame compensation and even 120fps VR is now easier, because
>PC renders 60 fps at low/medium res
>Low res is sent to headset and upscaled to native res
>Low res means lower encoding times, better bitrates
>Headset turns 60 fps into 120
>smooth enough that distortion is minimal
>????
>Almost halved requirements on the PC end
This saves so much bitrate and render power
And if you fell for the gaming laptop meme this means even you can do wireless streaming
It works. People always fricking cope that VR requires a monster GPU. It's not true. I've played on laptops.
>concern
it is entirely dependent on the game though, alyx and bonework wont run well on just an average laptop
>It works
sure, it works. if you enjoy playing games that look like garbage.
If you're using frame compensation and upscaling you usually win out in other places like bitrates and latency.
If your laptop can't beat an RX580 and 1060, which are the requirements for Alyx, then you have a bigger problem. FRC gives you a hell of a lot more headroom for resolution and texture quality if you've got it running already.
The problem with this is people think 15fps and everything low is "fine" but leave out these important points when claiming a potato can run VR.
vr is over. zuck killed it.
VR is a moronic gimmick, even worse than motion or touch.
No one under fifty wants to buy anything Facebook related and no one over fifty wants VR
Can I use the quest 3 on a pc natively without some weird software that adds a delay?
Virtual Desktop on Steam says it's not for Quest.
You have to buy virtual desktop on the quest store to run it on quest.
>buy games on Oculus store
>Facebook buys Oculus
>will lose all your games unless you make a facebook account and agree to let facebook steal all of your data
Literally the worst place to buy VR games.
Is this still a shitty environment? Do you still need to link with a facebook account?
Yes. You literally will have your Oculus games removed if you don't have a facebook account. You cannot use any Quest product without a facebook account.
You can make a "Meta" account that's not linked to Facebook.
Legitimately what the frick are you talking about.
Not a thing for quite a while at this point.
You are allowed to create "meta account" with fake info which is completely separate from facebook account.
>Deleting your Facebook account will also delete your Oculus games
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/deleting-your-facebook-account-will-also-delete-your-oculus-games
They changed that last year so now you need a Meta account instead of a facebook account.
https://www.androidcentral.com/how-remove-your-facebook-account-oculus-quest
Same policy though. You will lose all your games if you don't use Meta.
The functional difference between a meta account and an oculus account is fricking nothing. Your friends and games transfer over.
Wake me up when it's the Vive 2.
Why should I buy this when I already have a GO?
I assume the AR upgrades and the fact it can still run games
That's not what I bought it for.
I love how VR mindbroke a small number of anons so thoroughly that they post the same shit over and over for years and have emotional meltdowns over strangers enjoying things they can't. I thank God for not making me like one of you absolute basketcases.
Cheap accessories are already on aliexpress, you can get silicone protectors, a case and better strap for about fifty bucks.
652311298
you sound like a massive homosexual
Play VRChat.
have a nice day
Are there any e-girls in VR chat
Preferably ones that won't land me in a jail cell
i use this almost exclusively
Buy you're a man (biological male)
>imaginary virtual landscape where you can be anything you fricking want with no rules or limitations
>"you should be yourself"
I'm guessing you also jerk off to the trainers instead of the Pokemon?
...particularly the girl dressed as eevee, but yes. How did you know?
i don't see how that is related
they're actually pretty rare
I am only attracted to biological females as I want to reproduce
then you're not looking for e-girls
>e-girls aren't females
Ehhh. . .?
you said it yourself anon, they are not real so they are not biological females nor you can reproduce with them
You and I are going to have a long talk.
Come sit on my lap.
>Are there any apples in an orchard?!
Played Star wars squadrons in vr for the first time. Man that is one nice looking game.
Reminder to hold off until valve does something
Or just sell when valve does something
Yeah dude just wait until 2026
>no native displayport connectivity
I understand prioritizing the standalone experience. What I don't understand is actively trying to shut PCVR users out of the conversation entirely.
>wanting wires in VR
Don't they have their own proprietary connection cable?
Also known as a USB-C cable?
They use USBC to "tether" you to your PC, but at a cost of latency
Im simply above using the Facebook storefront to host all of my VR games. Even if I trusted them with that (I don't), I already have too many on Steam VR to go exclusively wireless/meta
you don't need to host or play any games on the quest itself, just virtual desktop to connect it wirelessly and use it as any old PCVR headset minus the wires
At that point I'd rather just have the wires in exchanged for higher fidelity
Suit yourself
Can someone explain why they can't just have ultralight LCD screens on the head and then have you wear a battery backpack with all the processors and stuff? I ain't doing backflips I just want to game without a brick on my head.
I know they got the technology it's how phones work.
VR Backpacks used to be a thing, not sure why they fell out of favor, especially that VR lenses are getting lighter than ever with pancake lenses it seems like a perfect fit.
Legitimately more of a problem of stability. Putting a 4.5 kg backpack on is way more limiting on movement than a 1.1lbs helmet that's securely strapped to your face.
If the design of the backpack was much more form fitting I'd understand, but then you have a consumer problem where one size doesn't fit all and you need more variance on the thing customers strap to themselves.
Tldr it's a consumer product issue not a technological issue
They died out the moment people realized that a lot of VR is actually enjoyable sitting down in a chair.
Then just dock the backpack when you're sitting down, it's not rocket science.
I think a lot of people could wear it like this and it would be okay to sit with (although it would be problematic for people with a large bust or gut).
Hey homosexual how about you put a 10 pound (4.5 KG lol) weight in a backpack and put it across your chest and let us know how it feels after an hour.
Try 45lb you twig.
Yeah anon, you're going to wear the prop known for back injuries?
You could probably get used to it and build your pec muscles while at it
No you wouldn't and you would hurt your back. It doesn't even work for women they have boobs remember? It's basically strapping a 10 pound boobs harness on. DD breasts are 5 pounds for perspective.
You could just use it like a backpack when standing and leave it in your lap.
All VR backpacks can be docked and/or be laid flat on a desk. This is a stupid argument.
And you can get a backpack and put a 10 pound weight in it and realize how uncomfortable it is. Stop trying to make your idea work. There's a better solution to your idea, it's a direct WiFi 6 connection to your computer, the tradeoffs are worth the convenience of not having a 10 pounds to lug around.
Are you starting to realize why it would just be better to have the weight on your face?
WHERE THE FRICK IS DECKARD GABE?
>quest 3 $500
>rtx4090 pc $4000
why should anyone choose this over vision pro?