Either pick grand strategist if you have no other buffing officer to kickstart things, or m master tactician to do damage and buff a bit sharing her stacks. Bring it down is still good.
you kinda have to go for master tactician.
grand strategist is mostly for cassia/psykers because they have a lot of strong origin talents and abilities to pick instead of the dogshit GS ones
Master tactician is legit powerful on it's own and works well with the pistol talents that jae already comes with
Vanguard is dogshit
Lol officer lmao. Do whatever you want you will still be busted.
Buffs and extra turns are where you want to put your feats, who gives a frick about anything else.
Tactician/strategist choice basically boils down to only wanting one strategist per party so she'll probably be a tactician. But again, specifcs don't matter because if your argenta takes 3-6 turns per turn and absorbs buffs from all of that you'll be bursting down anything aside from act bosses with specific anti-one-shot mechanics.
Early you use her as a generic Officer, which is still good.
Later once you've gotten your trading levels up she's turbo broken and becomes an unstoppable combat juggernaut who can go Master Tactician or Vanguard because of Cold Trader's Acumen. Even with the handicap of being a combat unit with 16 levels in Officer she still has insane stats across the board. Seriously, read this shit >Drusians: +(2x reputation level) % to all resistance tests and +(4x reputation level) to Lore (Imperium) >Explorators: +(2x reputation level) % to armour and +(4x reputation level) to Tech-Use >Kasballica Mission: +(2x reputation level) % to dodge and parry and +(4x reputation level) to Commerce >Fellowship of the Void: +(2x reputation level) % to critical hit chance and +(4x reputation level) to Coercion >The Imperial Navy: +(2x reputation level) % to cover efficiency and +(4x reputation level) to Persuasion
For anyone who doesn't want to read all that, she can reach Armour and/or Dodge numbers no one else can when you max the Explorators and/or Kasballica. She's also basically unhittable in cover due to the Navy bonus and has nearly 100% crit chance when you get Fellowship up.
By the time you're in Act 4 she's the literal strongest unit, even more so than Cassia.
I liked it personally, had great character development and some interesting Deldar tidbits. I wish it was longer and we had some quests to help meddle in Kabal politics. And that you got to talk more in depth with companions with more reactivity and options regarding certain events such as Argenta's reveal and companions real time reacting to Yrliet's betrayal. Plus the option for some more "hurt" dialogue if the PC romanced her.
I liked it overall. I would make it longer and bigger, add new places to visit, more scheming. But more importantly I would remove the constant interrupions of you character caughing up blood
I liked it, and I liked that Yrilet didn't actually betray me she just fell for a trap and dragged me down with her.
I wish there was a way to explain that to the other crew though, rather than saying nothing, even if not giving them the details. Because my RT seems like an absolutely insane moron for keeping her around from their perspective.
>Yrilet didn't actually betray me
While she didn't intend for your RT to get captured and tortured, she still did betray your trust by withholding information. She says so herself that's why she begs for forgiveness.
It doesn't help but you can explain it to Heinrix and Marz even helpfully proves it to him with facts and logic (yes, really). But yeah you really should have the option to fricking tell everyone.
extend it,it's a legit crime that it's so small.
from untouchable galatic merchant prince to an slave not worth shit...is great,Act 3 here imo is where your PC decides what he fights for:
For Faith and Humanity?-Dogmatic
For Freedoom and Loved ones? - Iconoclast
For em Dark Gahds? - Heretic
The early parts are confusingly structured. Like Nocturne says I have to fight in the arena to impress the Haemonculus, but turns out I just did that seconds ago by accident. He says the Haemonculus can help me escape, but escape seems pointless when the maggot will kill me soon. Turns out the Haemonculus CAN remove the maggot, but that's not what Nocturne said. So I don't feel like I have a goal I'm working towards. More like I'm bumbling around at random. It needed another editing pass.
I'm playing the unpatched version for now, I respecced argenta and her rapid fire is just gone. I select the ability during speccing but it just isn't there.
It's pretty funny in a "so cringe it's actually kino" kind of way. He's a fun chaarcetr to meme about and his ineraction with the femcel is the main reason for that
>iconogay RT allows Aeldari xenos to join the Astra Militarum on Janus >"Well I don' like them xenos but his lordship knows better, at least they'll stop bein' so high and mighty since we're all gru-" >he makes them "special" commissars >mfw
>when they just mindcontrol humans into joining them instead
They don't need to do that. One of the Gaunt's Ghosts novels has a part where the titular regiment is defending some ancient Eldar temple against a Chaos incursion, and the Eldar arrive to help - they make the Guardsman hallucinate they are in fact defending their doomed homeworld and long-dead friends and loved ones, and as a result they achieve a kill ratio of 900:1. They perform such a massacre, in fact, that the Munitorum deems it impossible, and strikes their achievements from official records.
Did guys on Janus mind control rebels btw? I don't recall such staff and it seemed more manipulation, tho it's reasonable to assume that some amount of telepathic brainwashing was used
despite the eldars being there from the beginning and the moron farseer being so decrepit that his summoned warp storm backfired, they did a decent enough job defending their magic gate and grooming some psyker inquisitor into doing it for them
the ending was really fricking rushed, though, the following book was better
After loading back to my pre-act 5 save where I still had a lot of shit in inventory and haven't done much trading apart from maxing explorators, I managed to get this by trading efficently + cargoing everything I don't use. Regarding cargoing the consumables such as medcits and the drugs that I never used anyway apart from chirurgeon give a ton of rep.
>spies on me and rats everything to his superior >implants a literal chaos worshipper to my palace and let's him cause an incursion and wreck the place >somehow pretends it isn't his fault and refuses to even talk about it
Give me one reason not to boot Jimmy out of the airlock in future runs as soon as I meet him.
Thats not really what happened though. The guy was working at the palace and gave information to Jiimmy. Unfortunatly the guy got buckbroken by Deldar torture, and Jimmy just failed to notice that his friend had become compromised.
One thing that's annoying is when he joins the Yrliet lynch mob you can ask him what you should do about him i.e. the guy who failed to notice his agent was working for Drukhari and he just cuts you off because Scalander got killed. Yes but that's not what the question was, you're the guy who made me keep the dude and it's your fricking job to know basic shit like how you can't trust someone drukhari fricked with, and this after another guy got drukhari on your ship for the same reason. Oh and Scalander lies to your face at the palace and Jimmi doesn't notice or doesn't tell you.
Yrliet lied to you about info source sure but if she wasn't there you would have ended up in Commorragh just the same because Jimmi's guy would have made you go there. So him starting shit but acting like he can't be challenged about it is annoying.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>using metaknowledge as a way to justify the betrayal
I'd execute you along with the xenos at this point for this mental gymnastic
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's not about justifying it's about the hypocrisy. You also know, in character, in the Yrliet route that she wouldn't even have been in a position to talk to Marazhai and get involved in this if not for her realizing Scalander was sneaking off and getting orders from him, which no one else realized or bothered to keep tabs on him.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>meta knowledge
Doesn't Marazhai tell us how he was going to use Achilleas?
Yrilet didn't betray you, she was just stupid. She fully expected to find some more dead Aeldari there, she wasn't expecting to be ambushed and she never sold you out.
Honestly they should have just made the dude betray you either way, it wasn't really necessary for Yrilet's story. But it's fine, and when you actually get an explanation from her, it's pretty nice.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the game tells you she betrayed you >your companions tell you she betrayed you >she herself tells you she betrayed you
You're just delusional. It's like saying that your wife didn't cheat on you, just a dude used her and she accidentally slipped on his dick multiple times. Fricking moron purge your existence
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You're originally led to believe Yrilet sold you out to the DEldar for information about her homeworld >When you finally talk to Yrilet you find out she didn't mean for any of this, had never imagined you would suffer for her actions and was completely tricked because she was blind with grief and dealing with the warp >Your conpanions, obviously, don't know shit
It's not a very good plot point, but the game is very clear that she got stressed from having to travel the warp and from finding your trophy, then fell for the DEldar plan and dragged you down with her.
She was dumb, not malicious.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're very dumb, not malicious. But that will not stop me from Argenta-ing you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You forget that she also gets desperate from Aeldari in distress quest and it's buckbreaking outcome and not doing it would affect her too
Btw, being a traitor isn't absolutely necessary includes malicious intent, so the guy is sort of right
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I want to know why you did it. Everything, from beginning to end. >"You are asking why? How could I have trusted a mon-keigh, elantach? After Muaran told me that it was your kind that had attacked Crudarach? After I glimpsed a piece of Crudarach in your chambers?" Yrliet's gaze is pained. "I saw that mon-keigh hearts were full of hatred for me and my kin. And I saw how indifferent you were to the troubles of my kind. What else was I to do? Of the two sorrows, I chose the one that was closer to my blood." >"I understand how unworthy I am in your eyes. This may sound like a ridiculous excuse, but... I did not want to betray you, {name}. I only wished to learn the truth about Crudarach's demise and find my kin. And when I saw the shard of my world in your dwelling, that trophy mounted on the wall, I was beside myself with fear and rage. And when my dark cousin whispered in my ear that he knew the answers to my questions... I made a mistake. I trusted my kin. And, fearing that you might refuse me if you knew where I had been getting my orders from, I simply asked you to direct your ship to the particular system." >"Did I trust Marazhai? No, of course not. I thought he spoke of my kin's location to crush my soul — that he wanted me to go there and find only death instead of them. But hope... hope for the better... prevailed over my faith in you, elantach." Yrliet sighs awkwardly, avoiding your gaze. "Filled with hope, the thought never even crossed my mind that this single thread, forever slipping from my grasp, would lead us to the very heart of the Dark City. I am sorry, {name}. And I wanted you to know that."
>he will still defend this
4 months ago
Anonymous
>After I glimpsed a piece of Crudarach in your chambers?
i spaced her after she barged into my room uninvited and had a meltie instead of apologizing. best decision my rt ever made it seems
4 months ago
Anonymous
You know you're forced to fall for the Commorragh ambush by the Inquisition guy, right? Which was the original plan even and only didn't happen because Yrliet found out and killed him.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I've played the game, moron-kun, so yes, I know. And from everything i've read about her the narrative only improves once she's out of the picture. She was thoroughly unpleasant and boring in what little time we spent together, so the decision to space her wasn't hard to make
4 months ago
Anonymous
nta but >the thought never even crossed my mind that this single thread, forever slipping from my grasp, would lead us to the very heart of the Dark City.
and marazhai will spell it out for you that she didn't know and he knew she wouldn't fall for it if he told her
4 months ago
Anonymous
yep
4 months ago
Anonymous
yep
>that bait was TOTALLY not a trap >"Did I trust Marazhai? No, of course not."
You're both morons if you don't realize that Yrliet knew this was a trap of sorts. She just didn't know it will be THAT bad.
4 months ago
Anonymous
she went agaisnt her better judgement to trust mazipan because she was desperate to see some form of her homeworld.
4 months ago
Anonymous
She knew she's betraying you. She didn't even warn you in a subtle way, just lied to your face. Her motives don't matter.
4 months ago
Anonymous
nta but she's "betraying" your trust in not telling you her source but her motives do matter because they're just hoping to find her people, either dead or alive
she's not lying because she thinks it would put you in danger, she's lying because she's afraid you won't take her there
4 months ago
Anonymous
>supporting her mental gymnastics
Humans nowadays have no sense of self-respect whatsoever.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No she didn't think it was a trap, just that he wanted her to suffer to see the slaughter >No, of course not. I thought he spoke of my kin's location to crush my soul — that he wanted me to go there and find only death instead of them.
4 months ago
Anonymous
She at most expected a trap for herself, like finding her people dead or getting killed herself. She doesn't get that you were always Marazhai's target.
4 months ago
Anonymous
She could've steal a fricking shuttle then instead of taking you with her like a good drukhari prostitute she is, those are pretty popular with the retinue.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Yrliet, I'll forgive you if you'd hug Argentina >Beware for your eggs tho
4 months ago
Anonymous
but I helped her at every turn and she said as much and fully blamed herself?? really if your nice to yrliet she's ready to castrate herself infront of you for forgiveness
4 months ago
Anonymous
nta but its moronic how you can tell yrliet to explain herself to the others like she did to you, and she just refuses to why is my space elf so autistic?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Would make sense that depending on how she felt about you she might not have been in a depressive mood and followed Scalander around until she found out he was talking to Marzipan, then you can have him send you to the station like if you don't have Yrliet around.
deldar hate chaos though
otherwise i guess because his failure is one of incompetence rather than malice (of course so is yrliet's)
though it's fricking ridiculous to believe jimmi didn't know the guy was compromised but that's what the game asks you to believe
>it's fricking ridiculous to believe jimmi didn't know the guy was compromised
bad writing. they've already shown that he's more than willing to kill his own people when the situation calls for it and always advocated to be better safe than sorry, but here he's suddenly all "nooooooooooo this is not truuuuuuueeeee, he's totally fine". frick off, owlkek writers, this is ooc and just you not knowing how else to reasonably land the party in space detroit
I can only buy it for one reason and that's Scalander being Emelina's agent and Jimi is extremely biased about anything Emelina related, like maybe he knows but he's deep in denial. But that's still ignoring how it should have been suspicious to him that Scalander kept getting such accurate info but never bothered to check up on that, compare with how Marazhai instantly knew, well that's more about Jimi being shit at his job.
i agree. it's one of the reasons she never survives past act 2 for me. one way or another she always ends up dead. she's not a great character to begin with and her existance actively brings down the entire story
Achilleas route makes Heinrix look like a complete moron though. He still doesn't realize it while Achilleas keeps lying to you both and Idira and Jae are screaming at you that it's a trap.
>Idira
Not true. >Idira sniffs and brushes her fingers against your sleeve. "My voices are harping on about treachery — about what Voigtvir did, obviously... This is a chance to pin down the Master of Whispers, isn't it? Oh, I'd wait here months for that!"
Cass notices his weird colors, other other hand.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's interesting. >Yrliet route
Idira loses her shit screaming about the black dragon and how there's no path etc. >Achilleas route
She probably still gets those but assumes any bad feelings are connected to Kunrad so she ignores them?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Achilleas' route is much more convincing to the point that I wish I didn't do Yrliet's route first. >he has a whole elaborate dialogue about how c**trad decided to set you up and prepares a trap for you >on the ship itself there are soldiers preparing the ambush, supposedly you could also help to prepare said ambush by setting up interactive traps etc >almost nothing screams "trap" aside from jae
>believable characters with flaws and inner conflicts is shit writing >but muh drukhari mary sue/muh autistic low iq elven wife isn't
/v/tards are hitting new lows
Even better:
you can pass a check to realize he was tortured for a long time in a non-lethal way.
You know from Clementia that Achilleas almost never left the palace so he was stuck there when the attack started, but Achilleas lies and tells you he was at the Administratum and rushed to the palace when it started.
Achilleas lies that the drukhari didn't ask him anything and Heinrix also claims that the drukhari wouldn't have known he was from the Inquisition. But you were told straight up by Marazhai that he's sure drukhari are feeding you info, you're told by several people and can even say that the drukhari assault is weird and implies they want something in the palace, and you know the drukhari leave after you get there with nothing else apparently accomplished. But no one figures out the obvious "Marazhai was right about the info pipeline and came here to find the source which was Achilleas".
Not really.
My issue is them not doing more with it and that the plot relevance is dead by the time you arrive, but the actual shit happening there was fun
>My only complaint is that we didn't get to make Marzipan squeal, his death is pretty neutered really.
Yeah, this. There should've been a scene where he's lethally wounded in the arena and you get to gloat about how he got pwned by a filthy mon'keigh. Would've been kino.
>people seething at yrliet and heinrix for having character flaws and not being all seeing all knowing giga brains
neither of them had ill intentions, tho yrliet did betray the RT's trust but not giving the source of info, she would never have done it if she had known RT could have gotten hurt and likewise jimmi would execute the spookbro on the spot if he knew what he was setting up
to be fair she was being irrational due to desperation, Eldar are 10x more emotional than humans
hell most people irl are pretty fricking stupid and think with feels instead of brain
>jimmi would execute the spookbro on the spot if he knew what he was setting up
Considering how Jimmi talks to Achilleas in his route in cumrag... Yeah. Yeah, he absolutely would.
What happens, I never got that far. It's not really Achilleas' fault even, someone (RT, Jimmi) should have put 2 and 2 together and kept him the frick away from sensitive info or at least had someone tail him. I did the initial part at the station and Marazhai of all people told me not to be so harsh on the poor guy because no one could have resisted that. So really it's more Jimmi's fault than Achilleas'
During the ambush The xenos turns his attention to someone else. "You have proven quite useful, mon-keigh. An uncanny quality for your kind." He is speaking to Achilleas, who is lying nearby, his pale face contorted in terror and pain, and his eyes wide open and tearful. "I may find other uses for you in the future."
"Damn... you..." Heinrix growls hoarsely as he tries to get up, driven more by rage than by physical strength. "I... will strangle... you both... myself..."
Marazhai nonchalantly kicks the arm Heinrix is using to prop himself up and he tumbles to the ground. "That seems unlikely, mon-keigh. Both of your fates are now mine to decide."
"Forgive... Forgive me, Master van Calox..." Achilleas's voice is trembling with sorrow and regret.
- Achilleas! You vile traitor!
"Y-Your Lordship|Ladyship, I..." Achilleas shakes his head, grimacing from the pain wrought by the poison gas.
(1/2)
In cumrag, Trev turns him into a bouncer Heinrix staggers back as if from a blow. His unblinking gaze is fixed on the monster in front of you. "Scalander?"
The monster lets out a distressed howl in Achilleas's voice. "Master van Calox, you are alive... I hoped death had taken you before those monsters could do to you what they had done to me...
Heinrix clenches his fists. "I see the xenos' minion has been handsomely rewarded for his treachery. I had a sliver of hope that I might still be lucky enough to kill you myself... but I will not do so now. No, not by any means. To languish in this... form... and be deprived of His light is a far greater punishment than any I could devise." Heinrix spits on the ground in disgust. "Damn you, Achilleas. Damn. You."
A sound erupts from the monster's throat, a distorted, mangled, but still recognisable human sob.
- Heinrix was never more wrong than when he chose such a pathetic creature to be his agent.
"You are right, {name}." Heinrix's voice rings with shame. "It is my fault. I did not see the weakness in time."
In the camp - Achilleas betrayed us.
Heinrix says nothing, making no attempt to hide the bitterness on his face. "Accepting that is... unbearable for me. Scalander was a true citizen of the Imperium and a fine agent... and the worst part is that the moment he ceased to be either passed beneath my notice!" The Interrogator closes his eyes, whether in shame or anger, you cannot tell. "I have no excuse for my offense against the Golden Throne."
You can bring him out of cumrag with clownussy's help, and he can help you on the Arena, but there's no happy ending for him, he kills himself eventually by offing himself from the spire. And Heinrix says absolutely nothing to him, he's already dead for him.
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Wow that's worse than I expected, fricking hell Jimmi anyone would have broken from that. >he kills himself eventually by offing himself from the spire.
That sucks, if you can get him that far I'd have hoped you could take him back and talk him out of it.
In the Yrliet route I got a slide where they eventually found his body and Marazhai even dropped by to testify about how he tortured him into betraying you. Which is just insult to injury, as is him being kept out of the loop when Emelina and her other agents used him as a patsy by feeding him info. Poor guy.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>That sucks, if you can get him that far I'd have hoped you could take him back and talk him out of it.
Not like he had a choice with that body of his - the haemonculus did turn him into an unhuman wreck. And guilt, I suppose. Ending: The monster that returned with the Rogue Trader from Commorragh bore little resemblance to Achilleas Scalander. In rare moments of clarity, the former Inquisition agent howled like a wounded beast, pleading for death. In moments of frenzy, he violently disposed of anyone who disobeyed his {mf|master|mistress}. As time passed, the body and mind of this monster, deprived of the Haemonculus's injections, began to disintegrate, bringing him unending suffering. In a burst of madness, Achilleas leapt from a high spire on Dargonus, and his crippled soul found peace.
You can leave him in cumrag though. Ending: There were rumours of a frightening new fighter in the arenas of Commorragh — a crippled, insane Wrack that fervently hacked his opponents to pieces. Bathing in rivers of blood, ecstatic with rage, he echoed the cries of the delighted spectators, shouting, "A-CHI-LAS! A-CHI-LAS!"
Or execute him for his treason, of course.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Depressing as frick, wish you could have paid Tervantias to fix him or something, dude didn't deserve this.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Impossible without making a new body probably
4 months ago
Anonymous
You know what's even worse? This dialogue "Your Lordship|Ladyship, my agents report that Kunrad Voigtvir and his pet xenos will soon arrive. We have roughly an hour to inspect the station and set up the ambush. Unless, of course, you prefer to face the conspirators head-on." Achilleas brings a trembling hand with his gilded respirator to his lips.
Heinrix looks at Achilleas intently. "A shrewd and well-considered suggestion. I can see that you have taken the time to learn as much about this station as you could. Good work."
Achilleas coughs. "Far from it, Master van Calox. Alas, my options were rather limited: we never properly scouted this place." He lowers his head, too ashamed to bring himself to look Heinrix in the eye. >be achilleas >want to share your troubles >is mind-broken quite literally >but your boss is a fricking jimmi "sorry, i got distracted by rt's pussy" van calox >and your boss' boss is busy stealing suns for his keikaku
The boy was on suicide watch long before cumrag
I have to suspect a rewrite there, like how Calligos, Chorda and the Calcazar Yremeryss plot were supposed to be more important and had content in act 4. Also the Heretic reflection somehow teamed up with him instead of killing him but you can't do that.
Both dogma Chorda and icono Chorda are in, Uralon's in the files, and Calligos isn't in yet, but Starrok said those two just didn't make it into 1.1 yet
Have they ever said if you CAN recruit Calligos as Icono? I've seen people say you should be able to if you talk to the (bugged) village chief but I can't tell if that's true or not.
"I can fix her" because there's a dialogue option to redeem her? But you can do that with Calligos too and he seemed more Icono-friendly than Chorda before the whole heresy thing.
Just to add evidence for this, you can see all the ending slides in the localization files, and there's no ending where Calligos is alive and well. He's always dead, crippled, or Khorney.
technically a pistol so she can shot in melee unlike her sniper rifle
however you're very unlikely to actually use it so just equip her with whatever looks cool on her back/hip
Nta but Muaran is great because he's the closest to your actual genuine Eldar who manipulate stupid mon-keigh into fighting each other and would never cry and apologize for not trusting you and other embarassing shit. I would frick him in a heartbeat but he's probably way more picky than Yrliet.
>i will put in motion a plan that will result in total eldar death on this world as well as chaos corruption becasue i'm having a woman moment
he is shit, but that's typical for eldar
with everything happening in the expanse it might have worked to get vyatt and some of the rebels to kill each other which would kill most of the chaos too and then they can rule the planet from the shadows
it wasn't that bad of a plan before you showed up
4 months ago
Anonymous
it was a moronic fricking plan. janus is providing food for half your planets, if not all of them, shit going down there WILL inevitably attract attention. And, waddaya know - it did
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes but that's because you're the one competent human being in the expanse and also care about what's happening there
if they took over the planet and made their servants pose as rulers and send food most people wouldn't care
Ganker fanfics aside, there should have been an option to have some of the Eldar Farseers help her with her powers (Yrliet mentions this in Idira's quest iirc)
No? The player is the deciding factor if she goes through with the helmet or not, she responds to Yrliet's proposal that they didn't want to help her, let alone a mon-keigh
>{n}Yrliet is warily observing Idira from under her lowered lids.{/n} "You do not have to resort to... a solution like this. There are other ways... My kind have other technology, devices not designed purely to scourge the soul..."" >"Oh yeah, Red, I'm sure they do. And as soon as I visit your nearest and dearest, I'm sure they'll welcome me with open arms and spoil me with gifts... Look, Yrliet, if you're not on great terms with them, then what chance does a mon-keigh witch have?""
Holy shit she says this while you're possibly allied with the Janus bunch? Fricks sake it's at least worth a try.
4 months ago
Anonymous
In my run where my RT was romancing Yrliet she says this so when Idira says "if you're not on great terms with them" could be referring to the Eldar abandoning her after spirit stone broke
But yeah considering Eklendyl who is nicer and grateful to RT is around, they could have gotten him to help her somehow
4 months ago
Anonymous
only morons ally with janus knife-ears and it was never supposed to be the default path that much is obvious
4 One who's soul in trapped in chessboard, one trapped in test tube, one that's fused together with random citizens into a frankenstein's eldar and Eklendyl who is trapped in a hanging cage
Works fine for my xeno-loving Icono, basically you have a deal to fight each other's enemies and you get to chat with strange new xenos most people would never have a chance to and get to listen to cool Commorragh trivia and maybe flirt a bit sometimes. And I like the irony of two people that got fricked over by Calcazar and Yremeryss shenanigans teaming up instead.
Hmm...I just noticed: Best fate for Yrliet will be when you not invite to your retinue after killing Vincenza. In that case Yrliet just bid you farewell and leave...so she will not take place in incident on Cumrag and will simply keep travel on her Path
Then she'd be stuck on Janus. Having her with you, romancing her but letting her do the ritual properly seems like a better ending. As long as you get loyal Pasqal ending that is.
She will stuck on Janus, but will have chance to travel in other way...when she is with you, Marzipan will trick her into betraying you which may be no good to her health
It's also weird because in one of the eldar novels they actually do have rooms with a kind of psychic doorbell so they don't normally barge into each other's rooms all the time. Maybe Crudarach was just different.
In the path series the do kinda barge, tho might wait for an invitation after opening the door (depenign on a situation), and might also warn of their arrival through Infinity Circuit (imagine dying and becoming a social network for your decendants)
>And I can see all the heaviness that has accumulated in your soul during our travels >I... see it >In the tilt of your head. In the change in your scent. If you will allow me...
Anti-Yrliet gays always use the wrong talking points when shilling against her going on about her intentions, It's clear that she didn't want to get RT captured, the things that matter was the torture the crew endured.
The talking point should be "Intentions be damned the crew had to endure horrific shit because she withheld info. Her stupidity makes her both a danger to herself and the people around her." which would be a factual argument.
Yeah but then you can blame Jimmi for trusting the guy he knows got drukhari'd, like a day after the ship almost got blown up by another guy they did it to. Or if people don't trust what Marzipan says you should assume all the Inquisition people were in on the plan to have your worlds raided and so on. You kinda have to allow for intentions so then if you hate Yrliet you have to ignore hers.
Jimmi is either an idiot or he strongly suspected Achilleas was compromised but didn't tell you because he chose to cling to hope and trust him as the alternative was too terrible to consider, which is basically the same as Yrliet hoping Marzipan's info was real. At least that's what would be reasonable to assume in universe, the real reason is bad writing.
Unlike Calcazar who legit doesn't trust anyone and abandoned his emotions a long time ago, his comment on jimmi about >His mathematical mind, not given to sentiment, can be of great use in an emergency.
is a fricking TOP KEK in this context especially if you're romancing him.
Jimmi legit trusted Achilleas, he thought he's reliable. Feelsbadman it all turned out this way.
Yeah any time someone calls Jimmi competent or cunning or whatever I fricking lol, he's absolutely terrible at it. The game however wants to have it both ways and make you think he's competent but somehow didn't even suspect the guy demonstrably lying about several things after spending some time with drukhari.
how are you even supposed to play the tabletop of rogue trader? i've played a d100 system before (CoC) and that was easy enough to understand, but rogue trader has so many percentage based rules to keep track of... especially talents. like how are you supposed to keep track every time you take a shot that you akshually deal 3.67% more damage than normal? this seems like a video game first and foremost, and not something that can be enjoyed as an actual ttrpg without your GM being a literal supercomputer when it comes to all these calculations
Anon, any time the book says +10% it actually means just +10. Its obtuse that way, so if your bs is 50 and ypu get a +10% bonus from a talent its under 60, not +10% of 50, or 55.
I hate that Nomos is ignored in companion and faction ending slides. Having a star god on payroll that can protect entire expanse would solve a lot of people's shit
>and he's not ignored
In the grand narrative, true he protects the expanse. But when it comes to RT's allies and friends, he is.
For instance Jae's shit getting nuked by a random Rogue Trader. He could have gotten Yrliet a new SS from Crone World or Protect Jimmi from assassination etc.
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You can't expect Nomos to do all the job
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>Protect Jimmi from assassination
Just romance him breh, his "heresy" is tailor-made for iconostacy
Also, if Jae is a shadow baron, she survives and warns jimmi about this, and he survives too.
How do you think Owlcat will do the inevitable "infinite dungeon" rogue-like DLC?
For those that don't know in the same DLCs for both pathfinder games you get a huge preset dungeon placed into main campaign and a separate endless rogue-like mode where you make a custom party.
I think they might add an option to create characters with special origins such as Tech-Priests, Space Marines and Aeldari. Most likely will have something to do with a tomb world being raided by various faction or the Crudarach wreckage being raided by various factions for enemy variety
It will get more archetypes most likely, the 2nd DLC adds in a new one, plus if it adds in special origins like
I think they might add an option to create characters with special origins such as Tech-Priests, Space Marines and Aeldari. Most likely will have something to do with a tomb world being raided by various faction or the Crudarach wreckage being raided by various factions for enemy variety
You are trying to escape Trazyn's museum, after the stasis fields cut out. Releasing you from stasis and also allows for a wide variety of different enemy encounters, since Trazyn has just about everything stored there.
that would actually be amazing, but you're not outstanding enough for trazyn to want you. You're just some run of the mill basic b***h rogue trader. he most likely has more impressive specimen in his collection already
Trazyn keeps backups and spares of even regular guardsmen regiments. So nabbing a Rogue Trader who even has a warrant signed with the Emperors blood would be a delectable prize for him.
that would actually be amazing, but you're not outstanding enough for trazyn to want you. You're just some run of the mill basic b***h rogue trader. he most likely has more impressive specimen in his collection already
He does not even need to want to shelve you, Tesseract labyrinths are his go-to weapon of last resort and "FRICKYOU".
There is an Inquisitor that could tell you.
>How do you think Owlcat will do the inevitable "infinite dungeon" rogue-like DLC?
I very much hope they simply won't. Waste of development time, and for RT it seems extra pointless since you can not even give it the "it is to try one of myriad build combos out" excuse anymore.
That said, if they are stupid enough to try doing it at all, a webway splinter or chaos shit seem the most logical routes.
Kind of pissed that we don't get a good-old-boy network discount from the Navy bros if you play Navy officer.
The fricking trader for it at footfall is supposed to be the old ship you served on, ffs
>The fricking trader for it at footfall is supposed to be the old ship you served on, ffs
Wait, really? Imperial Navy and Merchant Fleet that trader belongs to are supposed to be different and have different ships, although techically being divisions of single enitity
Yeah go check how a Navy officer introduces himself to c**trad right in the first talk at game start.
Unless I am very mistaken, it is the name of the cruiser you trade with.
>collectors edition delayed by 4 weeks because the shipping containers don't want to go through the Suez canal
I just want my fishwife to come home safely
>collectors edition delayed by 4 weeks because the shipping containers don't want to go through the Suez canal
I just want my fishwife to come home safely
Because I'm not larping as a "le kill elves xd"gay, they're already the most important xenos faction in the game, the only xenos companions, and they completely overshadowed the necrons, enough is enough
>enough is enough
Nah, more elves and more nercrons
Expand both existing xeno storylines, instead of just adding in random new ones (apart from Orks, they make sense to add in since they are mentioned a few times in the game tho you never get to see them)
4 months ago
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Get your own game homosexual
4 months ago
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Same can be said to you, this is a space elf game, deal with it
4 months ago
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kys
4 months ago
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lol seethe
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>none of the dlcs mention anything xeno related >starrok said cuckoordah isn't even a cut content
Enjoy the year humanityphobe, as I shall enjoy watching your hope melt in each and every thread
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>humanityphobe
And I look forward to those and any DLC that features any faction as long as it's well done , nice cope that that's supposed to be an "own". You were the one having a meltdown because someone said more Eldar stuff.
It's perfectly fine that a faction gets focused on in the game. I hope both Eldar and Necrons get more shit.
4 months ago
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Nice try elfricker
4 months ago
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kek keep coping and projecting your manchild faction tribalism onto me mate, unlike you I don't seethe if factions I don't care about get content as long as it's good
4 months ago
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I had enough of "good" aeldari content made by owlcats for the rest of my life, thanks.
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What's the problem if the game heavily features Eldar? The game doesn't have to have a faction menagerie, just like Mechanicus only being about Admech and Necrons or Space Marine being bout Imperium vs Orkz and Chaos.
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Because it's just fricking elves and there's a lot of them
4 months ago
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>I don't like a faction so the devs have to cater to me and not focus on them
4 months ago
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>name the game rogue trader >it's actually aeldarifinder
Nice misleading marketing homosexual
4 months ago
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Deldar get way more shit than Craftworlder and it's appearing at end of act 2 and short act 3, crafties get a unfinished story. Your overexaggaration of Eldar "taking over the story " is pure butthurt.
4 months ago
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Yeah, let's add ynnari then, why not? Clearly there are not enough elves, they should take 90% of the game, right?
4 months ago
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god i love watching orkatrds and taucucks seethe
4 months ago
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>implying I'm fond of any xeno
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>What's the problem if the game heavily features Eldar?
Eldar are the worst faction in 40k and their fanbase and players are by far the most annoying. The less they're involved in something the better, in fact the entire settinf would be improved if every Eldar faction was removed overnight.
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There are worse factions like the Leagues of Wotann. But Owlcat could atleast have focused on Exodites and Clowns, instead of the two most used Eldar factions.
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>The game doesn't have to have a faction menagerie
They tried to include a bit of everything. >genestealers side mission >Slaanesh cult >Khorne marines in some frozen planet >Nurgle black ship >Tzeentch >Word bearers >Mechanicum >Eldars >Necrons
They left out orks and taus, so I bet we will see both in the dlcs.
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Space Marine 2 is gonna be about Space Smurfs and Trannoids invasions so that's why there is only one side mission with them.
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>Space Marine 2 is gonna be about Space Smurfs and Trannoids invasions so that's why there is only one side mission with them.
If were what Owlcat or GW are thinking/planning, I'd call them stupid.
I'd say RT is one of the closest things to an influx of new IP fans they are getting right now, so showing muh tyrannid swarm menace off could only help interest in SM2.
And the existing 40k crowd would be anything but turned away by it too.
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Cant wait for Leandros to accuse me of being a Tyranid in disguise or something.
4 months ago
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>Inquisitor Jimmy, i believe Titus is actually a Hormagaunt in disguise!
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>Nah, more elves and more nercrons
Corsair vs Necron DLC?
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Rather Orks, but I'll take it
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A random Ork Freebooter somehow ends up on the Corsairs ship. But the knife ears are doing pirate stuff all the time so he is just chillin.
Because your elves took more than half of the game for themselves, and rogue trader isn't even about trading at this point, just solving xeno problems.
It evens out, since you can make scenes trigger twice.
>save after Fishfu gave me the courting advice book >quit game, make food, eat >sit down, start game, load last save >Fishfu acts like if I just started the convo >"umm maybe it was loading the save from before the talk?!" >nope, the book is already in my inventory
Dont even want to find out what will happen if you start picking different dialog triggers in such cases, I am quite content with my owlcat-allocated bugs without producing some on purpose.
The Eldargays while annoying posters in general just want to see more of their faction, being fine with others that are not space elves getting content.
But the timmygays are 10x more annoying because they instantly seethe at anons that desire content for any race that they don't personally like mindbroken trannies, thinking the world revolves around their wishes, every single time.
Congratulations you manage to be more insuferable than elf-coomers
>Too bad, Eldar fricking suck.
In your shitty opinion.
I like em (the race not their fanbase) in my shitty opinion.
But you're gonna seethe like a sheltered redditor and can't accept the fact that your fee-fees aren't facts everyone agrees with
I figure if Argenta and Jimmy could work together to set up some kind of internship for Marzipan, then his bloodlust could probably be sated while being productive.
Yes, but that's because Eldar tend to hage absurdly busted rules that aren't fun to play against in the slightest. There's often rules for them which 'slip past' the typical balance checks and end up being caught by players who pick up Eldar armies for cheap wins.
For example in the latest edition, Wraithknights alone caused two entire General Rules for THE ENTIRE GAME to be changed, fricking over other armies im the process because the person writing the Eldar rules made it so Wraithknights could casually delete any unit on the field with ease.
>let's cumtown's dr Mengele stab her (and most likely dick her) >doesn't let iconotranimal touch her >doesn't promise not to frick Eldar while dating iconotranimal
10/10 owlcat romance
Not likely, the Consortium is a coalition of criminals and having her cargo seized was a message from the more powerful groups that she wasn't welcome anymore and her options were basically attach herself to a bigger fish (you), start over somewhere else, or stay/don't leave in time and die.
From what I as a brainlet understood Amarnat wasn't a person it was the name of a collective of several tech priests, then they wiped their memories clean to protect themselves and the knowledge from calcazar's grubby hands or something. ANd then you have an option to unlock the knowledge again.
I don't have anything against pathfinder games, I've played them and they're great, in fact i'm playing wotr right now, but I don't want to associate with pathtrannies
Man, did Abelard's starting armor always look like this? I could've sworn it looked way different.
Also, Argenta is equipped with it. Even though it's heavy armor and Argenta can't equip heavy armor.
I really should've payed more attention during the intro my first time around.
But do we know if Cassia has it? Also I assume every mutation has different variants, so even if it removed 90% of body hair it could still be there on some body parts.
Is melee fun in this game? I imagine most enemies are using guns so it seems like you‘d need to soak loads of damage before even being able to attack yourself
Melee is great and fun it just doesn't really kick in vs tough enemies until act 2 when you can start swinging for over 100 damage multiple times a turn.
Give me fun alternative build please, I'm tired of the same arch militant with high firerate weapon/ Officer barking at the back instead of leading by example / vanguard using melee/ sniper bounty hunter/ etc.
How do I build Jae?
Either pick grand strategist if you have no other buffing officer to kickstart things, or m master tactician to do damage and buff a bit sharing her stacks. Bring it down is still good.
Depends, does your comp need a pure buffbot or some support + damage?
If former go grand strategist if latter go master tactician.
Wrong board. You have to go to Ganker for bodybuilding advice. Or maybe ask a Haemonculi
you kinda have to go for master tactician.
grand strategist is mostly for cassia/psykers because they have a lot of strong origin talents and abilities to pick instead of the dogshit GS ones
Master tactician is legit powerful on it's own and works well with the pistol talents that jae already comes with
Vanguard is dogshit
Lol officer lmao. Do whatever you want you will still be busted.
Buffs and extra turns are where you want to put your feats, who gives a frick about anything else.
Tactician/strategist choice basically boils down to only wanting one strategist per party so she'll probably be a tactician. But again, specifcs don't matter because if your argenta takes 3-6 turns per turn and absorbs buffs from all of that you'll be bursting down anything aside from act bosses with specific anti-one-shot mechanics.
Early you use her as a generic Officer, which is still good.
Later once you've gotten your trading levels up she's turbo broken and becomes an unstoppable combat juggernaut who can go Master Tactician or Vanguard because of Cold Trader's Acumen. Even with the handicap of being a combat unit with 16 levels in Officer she still has insane stats across the board. Seriously, read this shit
>Drusians: +(2x reputation level) % to all resistance tests and +(4x reputation level) to Lore (Imperium)
>Explorators: +(2x reputation level) % to armour and +(4x reputation level) to Tech-Use
>Kasballica Mission: +(2x reputation level) % to dodge and parry and +(4x reputation level) to Commerce
>Fellowship of the Void: +(2x reputation level) % to critical hit chance and +(4x reputation level) to Coercion
>The Imperial Navy: +(2x reputation level) % to cover efficiency and +(4x reputation level) to Persuasion
For anyone who doesn't want to read all that, she can reach Armour and/or Dodge numbers no one else can when you max the Explorators and/or Kasballica. She's also basically unhittable in cover due to the Navy bonus and has nearly 100% crit chance when you get Fellowship up.
By the time you're in Act 4 she's the literal strongest unit, even more so than Cassia.
How do (You) feel about the Cumrag Act and how would you change it?
I liked it personally, had great character development and some interesting Deldar tidbits. I wish it was longer and we had some quests to help meddle in Kabal politics. And that you got to talk more in depth with companions with more reactivity and options regarding certain events such as Argenta's reveal and companions real time reacting to Yrliet's betrayal. Plus the option for some more "hurt" dialogue if the PC romanced her.
It's great and should be longer and have more areas, quests etc.
I love it, but it needs better introduction via Yrlicel
I liked it overall. I would make it longer and bigger, add new places to visit, more scheming. But more importantly I would remove the constant interrupions of you character caughing up blood
I liked it, and I liked that Yrilet didn't actually betray me she just fell for a trap and dragged me down with her.
I wish there was a way to explain that to the other crew though, rather than saying nothing, even if not giving them the details. Because my RT seems like an absolutely insane moron for keeping her around from their perspective.
>Yrilet didn't actually betray me
moronic simp
>Yrilet didn't actually betray me
While she didn't intend for your RT to get captured and tortured, she still did betray your trust by withholding information. She says so herself that's why she begs for forgiveness.
It doesn't help but you can explain it to Heinrix and Marz even helpfully proves it to him with facts and logic (yes, really). But yeah you really should have the option to fricking tell everyone.
extend it,it's a legit crime that it's so small.
from untouchable galatic merchant prince to an slave not worth shit...is great,Act 3 here imo is where your PC decides what he fights for:
For Faith and Humanity?-Dogmatic
For Freedoom and Loved ones? - Iconoclast
For em Dark Gahds? - Heretic
The early parts are confusingly structured. Like Nocturne says I have to fight in the arena to impress the Haemonculus, but turns out I just did that seconds ago by accident. He says the Haemonculus can help me escape, but escape seems pointless when the maggot will kill me soon. Turns out the Haemonculus CAN remove the maggot, but that's not what Nocturne said. So I don't feel like I have a goal I'm working towards. More like I'm bumbling around at random. It needed another editing pass.
I'm playing the unpatched version for now, I respecced argenta and her rapid fire is just gone. I select the ability during speccing but it just isn't there.
You can open the character menu and drag things into the ability bar.
Check if it's there
You angelic bastard! That solved it.
Who is the Nok Nok of this game?
>stupid but really strong
Argenta
Decently written plucky sidekick or easy mode effective build (though stuck in the technically worst class to go pure)?
Nobody really
Nobody
Marazhai is the designated comic relief, but that's all they have in common apart from being stab happy
And the pointy ears.
>rape and torture enthusiast is the designated comic relief
how did they do it?
rape and torture is funny
>moron from a despised race that doesn't fully understand your customs but can be kept around as a silly little pet to show off
Yrliet
>This is my Yrliet. It makes a funny noise if you pull its ears.
Marazhai
Jimmi drip!
How funny is Heinrix's romance, heard there is frick ton of spaghetti spilling. Considering making a female RT just to see it.
It's pretty funny in a "so cringe it's actually kino" kind of way. He's a fun chaarcetr to meme about and his ineraction with the femcel is the main reason for that
>iconogay RT allows Aeldari xenos to join the Astra Militarum on Janus
>"Well I don' like them xenos but his lordship knows better, at least they'll stop bein' so high and mighty since we're all gru-"
>he makes them "special" commissars
>mfw
>eldar
>joining mon-keigh army in any way
>when they just mindcontrol humans into joining them instead
>when they just mindcontrol humans into joining them instead
They don't need to do that. One of the Gaunt's Ghosts novels has a part where the titular regiment is defending some ancient Eldar temple against a Chaos incursion, and the Eldar arrive to help - they make the Guardsman hallucinate they are in fact defending their doomed homeworld and long-dead friends and loved ones, and as a result they achieve a kill ratio of 900:1. They perform such a massacre, in fact, that the Munitorum deems it impossible, and strikes their achievements from official records.
Did guys on Janus mind control rebels btw? I don't recall such staff and it seemed more manipulation, tho it's reasonable to assume that some amount of telepathic brainwashing was used
Nta but they made them think the Eldar are human resistance leaders and the ruins are normal human buildings.
Hm, I don't remember that. Wouldn't pretending to be local strain of mutants, like with Vyatt, make sense?
People wouldn't follow them then. You can ask Muaran and he'll tell you he's using his powers to make them think they're human.
despite the eldars being there from the beginning and the moron farseer being so decrepit that his summoned warp storm backfired, they did a decent enough job defending their magic gate and grooming some psyker inquisitor into doing it for them
the ending was really fricking rushed, though, the following book was better
*PDF
>human male
>aeldari female
i prefer aeldari male human female
Is INT now relevant for psykers?
What is the max rep spread you can reach now?
You can max two factions and the navy most definitely
After loading back to my pre-act 5 save where I still had a lot of shit in inventory and haven't done much trading apart from maxing explorators, I managed to get this by trading efficently + cargoing everything I don't use. Regarding cargoing the consumables such as medcits and the drugs that I never used anyway apart from chirurgeon give a ton of rep.
So the colony projects that give medkits and grenades are not far more valuable
>not
I mean they are for rep, since you can farm them for that even if you don't use them
Gonna let you guys know what the Chorda interactions they said they added on bridge are like shortly after equipping my morons and winning the battles
3/4 normal rep is pretty good, not as restrictive as before, but still enforces some choice
Techincally if you grind planet rewards and warp jumps, you can max all natty
Did they hotfix themselves a physical version?
Total Jimmy Suffering
so is burst fire an AoE attack or not? do you still get the % damage increase from concentrated fire?
It's not.
They specifically say they fixed this too
So archmilitants no longer get versatility stacks by alternating burst and single shot fire?
why wouldn't they?
>Esteemed Lord Captain
>I would like to request you to stop sending indecent picts to my vox-mail
sure, come on over, i'll show you everything in eprson
>spies on me and rats everything to his superior
>implants a literal chaos worshipper to my palace and let's him cause an incursion and wreck the place
>somehow pretends it isn't his fault and refuses to even talk about it
Give me one reason not to boot Jimmy out of the airlock in future runs as soon as I meet him.
bantz
a literal chaos worshipper to my palace and let's him cause an incursion and wreck the place
what?
Chaos, dark elf, whatever. Point is he fricked up and completely pretends like it isn't his fault and I can't even shoot him a bit for it.
he wasn't a chaos worshiper, he wasn't the one who planted him, and he didn't cause an incursion. way to oust yourself as a speed reader, damn
Thats not really what happened though. The guy was working at the palace and gave information to Jiimmy. Unfortunatly the guy got buckbroken by Deldar torture, and Jimmy just failed to notice that his friend had become compromised.
nta but the guy was working at the palace because the inquisition forced you to put him there
Throw yourself out instead, moronic speedreader
One thing that's annoying is when he joins the Yrliet lynch mob you can ask him what you should do about him i.e. the guy who failed to notice his agent was working for Drukhari and he just cuts you off because Scalander got killed. Yes but that's not what the question was, you're the guy who made me keep the dude and it's your fricking job to know basic shit like how you can't trust someone drukhari fricked with, and this after another guy got drukhari on your ship for the same reason. Oh and Scalander lies to your face at the palace and Jimmi doesn't notice or doesn't tell you.
Yrliet still betrayed you, moron. Jimmi's stupidity doesn't excuse her actions
Yrliet lied to you about info source sure but if she wasn't there you would have ended up in Commorragh just the same because Jimmi's guy would have made you go there. So him starting shit but acting like he can't be challenged about it is annoying.
>using metaknowledge as a way to justify the betrayal
I'd execute you along with the xenos at this point for this mental gymnastic
It's not about justifying it's about the hypocrisy. You also know, in character, in the Yrliet route that she wouldn't even have been in a position to talk to Marazhai and get involved in this if not for her realizing Scalander was sneaking off and getting orders from him, which no one else realized or bothered to keep tabs on him.
>meta knowledge
Doesn't Marazhai tell us how he was going to use Achilleas?
Yrilet didn't betray you, she was just stupid. She fully expected to find some more dead Aeldari there, she wasn't expecting to be ambushed and she never sold you out.
Honestly they should have just made the dude betray you either way, it wasn't really necessary for Yrilet's story. But it's fine, and when you actually get an explanation from her, it's pretty nice.
>the game tells you she betrayed you
>your companions tell you she betrayed you
>she herself tells you she betrayed you
You're just delusional. It's like saying that your wife didn't cheat on you, just a dude used her and she accidentally slipped on his dick multiple times. Fricking moron purge your existence
>You're originally led to believe Yrilet sold you out to the DEldar for information about her homeworld
>When you finally talk to Yrilet you find out she didn't mean for any of this, had never imagined you would suffer for her actions and was completely tricked because she was blind with grief and dealing with the warp
>Your conpanions, obviously, don't know shit
It's not a very good plot point, but the game is very clear that she got stressed from having to travel the warp and from finding your trophy, then fell for the DEldar plan and dragged you down with her.
She was dumb, not malicious.
You're very dumb, not malicious. But that will not stop me from Argenta-ing you.
You forget that she also gets desperate from Aeldari in distress quest and it's buckbreaking outcome and not doing it would affect her too
Btw, being a traitor isn't absolutely necessary includes malicious intent, so the guy is sort of right
>I want to know why you did it. Everything, from beginning to end.
>"You are asking why? How could I have trusted a mon-keigh, elantach? After Muaran told me that it was your kind that had attacked Crudarach? After I glimpsed a piece of Crudarach in your chambers?" Yrliet's gaze is pained. "I saw that mon-keigh hearts were full of hatred for me and my kin. And I saw how indifferent you were to the troubles of my kind. What else was I to do? Of the two sorrows, I chose the one that was closer to my blood."
>"I understand how unworthy I am in your eyes. This may sound like a ridiculous excuse, but... I did not want to betray you, {name}. I only wished to learn the truth about Crudarach's demise and find my kin. And when I saw the shard of my world in your dwelling, that trophy mounted on the wall, I was beside myself with fear and rage. And when my dark cousin whispered in my ear that he knew the answers to my questions... I made a mistake. I trusted my kin. And, fearing that you might refuse me if you knew where I had been getting my orders from, I simply asked you to direct your ship to the particular system."
>"Did I trust Marazhai? No, of course not. I thought he spoke of my kin's location to crush my soul — that he wanted me to go there and find only death instead of them. But hope... hope for the better... prevailed over my faith in you, elantach." Yrliet sighs awkwardly, avoiding your gaze. "Filled with hope, the thought never even crossed my mind that this single thread, forever slipping from my grasp, would lead us to the very heart of the Dark City. I am sorry, {name}. And I wanted you to know that."
>he will still defend this
>After I glimpsed a piece of Crudarach in your chambers?
i spaced her after she barged into my room uninvited and had a meltie instead of apologizing. best decision my rt ever made it seems
You know you're forced to fall for the Commorragh ambush by the Inquisition guy, right? Which was the original plan even and only didn't happen because Yrliet found out and killed him.
I've played the game, moron-kun, so yes, I know. And from everything i've read about her the narrative only improves once she's out of the picture. She was thoroughly unpleasant and boring in what little time we spent together, so the decision to space her wasn't hard to make
nta but
>the thought never even crossed my mind that this single thread, forever slipping from my grasp, would lead us to the very heart of the Dark City.
and marazhai will spell it out for you that she didn't know and he knew she wouldn't fall for it if he told her
yep
>that bait was TOTALLY not a trap
>"Did I trust Marazhai? No, of course not."
You're both morons if you don't realize that Yrliet knew this was a trap of sorts. She just didn't know it will be THAT bad.
she went agaisnt her better judgement to trust mazipan because she was desperate to see some form of her homeworld.
She knew she's betraying you. She didn't even warn you in a subtle way, just lied to your face. Her motives don't matter.
nta but she's "betraying" your trust in not telling you her source but her motives do matter because they're just hoping to find her people, either dead or alive
she's not lying because she thinks it would put you in danger, she's lying because she's afraid you won't take her there
>supporting her mental gymnastics
Humans nowadays have no sense of self-respect whatsoever.
No she didn't think it was a trap, just that he wanted her to suffer to see the slaughter
>No, of course not. I thought he spoke of my kin's location to crush my soul — that he wanted me to go there and find only death instead of them.
She at most expected a trap for herself, like finding her people dead or getting killed herself. She doesn't get that you were always Marazhai's target.
She could've steal a fricking shuttle then instead of taking you with her like a good drukhari prostitute she is, those are pretty popular with the retinue.
>Yrliet, I'll forgive you if you'd hug Argentina
>Beware for your eggs tho
but I helped her at every turn and she said as much and fully blamed herself?? really if your nice to yrliet she's ready to castrate herself infront of you for forgiveness
nta but its moronic how you can tell yrliet to explain herself to the others like she did to you, and she just refuses to why is my space elf so autistic?
Would make sense that depending on how she felt about you she might not have been in a depressive mood and followed Scalander around until she found out he was talking to Marzipan, then you can have him send you to the station like if you don't have Yrliet around.
a literal chaos worshipper to my palace and let's him cause an incursion and wreck the place
have you played the game or are just shitposting?
deldar hate chaos though
otherwise i guess because his failure is one of incompetence rather than malice (of course so is yrliet's)
though it's fricking ridiculous to believe jimmi didn't know the guy was compromised but that's what the game asks you to believe
>deldar hate chaos though
eh, they're slaanesh worshippers in denial. that anon is still total moron though
>it's fricking ridiculous to believe jimmi didn't know the guy was compromised
bad writing. they've already shown that he's more than willing to kill his own people when the situation calls for it and always advocated to be better safe than sorry, but here he's suddenly all "nooooooooooo this is not truuuuuuueeeee, he's totally fine". frick off, owlkek writers, this is ooc and just you not knowing how else to reasonably land the party in space detroit
I can only buy it for one reason and that's Scalander being Emelina's agent and Jimi is extremely biased about anything Emelina related, like maybe he knows but he's deep in denial. But that's still ignoring how it should have been suspicious to him that Scalander kept getting such accurate info but never bothered to check up on that, compare with how Marazhai instantly knew, well that's more about Jimi being shit at his job.
yrlikek's route is just shit, plain and simple. Achilleas' is much better narrative-wise
i agree. it's one of the reasons she never survives past act 2 for me. one way or another she always ends up dead. she's not a great character to begin with and her existance actively brings down the entire story
Achilleas route makes Heinrix look like a complete moron though. He still doesn't realize it while Achilleas keeps lying to you both and Idira and Jae are screaming at you that it's a trap.
>Idira
Not true.
>Idira sniffs and brushes her fingers against your sleeve. "My voices are harping on about treachery — about what Voigtvir did, obviously... This is a chance to pin down the Master of Whispers, isn't it? Oh, I'd wait here months for that!"
Cass notices his weird colors, other other hand.
That's interesting.
>Yrliet route
Idira loses her shit screaming about the black dragon and how there's no path etc.
>Achilleas route
She probably still gets those but assumes any bad feelings are connected to Kunrad so she ignores them?
Achilleas' route is much more convincing to the point that I wish I didn't do Yrliet's route first.
>he has a whole elaborate dialogue about how c**trad decided to set you up and prepares a trap for you
>on the ship itself there are soldiers preparing the ambush, supposedly you could also help to prepare said ambush by setting up interactive traps etc
>almost nothing screams "trap" aside from jae
>believable characters with flaws and inner conflicts is shit writing
>but muh drukhari mary sue/muh autistic low iq elven wife isn't
/v/tards are hitting new lows
Reminder that RT failed to notice any signs in Achilleas' behavior as well. Even when he invites you to the station, personally.
Even better:
you can pass a check to realize he was tortured for a long time in a non-lethal way.
You know from Clementia that Achilleas almost never left the palace so he was stuck there when the attack started, but Achilleas lies and tells you he was at the Administratum and rushed to the palace when it started.
Achilleas lies that the drukhari didn't ask him anything and Heinrix also claims that the drukhari wouldn't have known he was from the Inquisition. But you were told straight up by Marazhai that he's sure drukhari are feeding you info, you're told by several people and can even say that the drukhari assault is weird and implies they want something in the palace, and you know the drukhari leave after you get there with nothing else apparently accomplished. But no one figures out the obvious "Marazhai was right about the info pipeline and came here to find the source which was Achilleas".
RT is next in line for public humiliation.
Let's just agree that act 3 is shit
The lead up to act 3 is shit. But act 3 is fine, if pretty undercooked.
Not really.
My issue is them not doing more with it and that the plot relevance is dead by the time you arrive, but the actual shit happening there was fun
no, act 3 is actually good, it's how you end up there that's moronic
Compared to wotr act 4 it's garbage
wotr act 4 was in the beta, cumrag wasn't. i agree that it needs to be expanded
It literally WAS in the beta
Act 3 is great, just maybe fix how you get there somewhat.
I spent all of Act 3 thinking "Frick these c**ts, I wish I could unleash Slanesh on them" even as a good guy Dogmatic RT.
And then I got to unleash Slanesh on them. Was great. 10/10.
My only complaint is that we didn't get to make Marzipan squeal, his death is pretty neutered really.
Same. Next time around I'm going to recruit him just so I can give him to Jimmy immediately after escaping.
>My only complaint is that we didn't get to make Marzipan squeal, his death is pretty neutered really.
Yeah, this. There should've been a scene where he's lethally wounded in the arena and you get to gloat about how he got pwned by a filthy mon'keigh. Would've been kino.
>people seething at yrliet and heinrix for having character flaws and not being all seeing all knowing giga brains
neither of them had ill intentions, tho yrliet did betray the RT's trust but not giving the source of info, she would never have done it if she had known RT could have gotten hurt and likewise jimmi would execute the spookbro on the spot if he knew what he was setting up
Being a low IQ brainlet that isn't capable of realizing the obvious isn't a flaw, it's bad writing
to be fair she was being irrational due to desperation, Eldar are 10x more emotional than humans
hell most people irl are pretty fricking stupid and think with feels instead of brain
desperation + constant warp jumps specifically
>jimmi would execute the spookbro on the spot if he knew what he was setting up
Considering how Jimmi talks to Achilleas in his route in cumrag... Yeah. Yeah, he absolutely would.
What happens, I never got that far. It's not really Achilleas' fault even, someone (RT, Jimmi) should have put 2 and 2 together and kept him the frick away from sensitive info or at least had someone tail him. I did the initial part at the station and Marazhai of all people told me not to be so harsh on the poor guy because no one could have resisted that. So really it's more Jimmi's fault than Achilleas'
During the ambush
The xenos turns his attention to someone else. "You have proven quite useful, mon-keigh. An uncanny quality for your kind." He is speaking to Achilleas, who is lying nearby, his pale face contorted in terror and pain, and his eyes wide open and tearful. "I may find other uses for you in the future."
"Damn... you..." Heinrix growls hoarsely as he tries to get up, driven more by rage than by physical strength. "I... will strangle... you both... myself..."
Marazhai nonchalantly kicks the arm Heinrix is using to prop himself up and he tumbles to the ground. "That seems unlikely, mon-keigh. Both of your fates are now mine to decide."
"Forgive... Forgive me, Master van Calox..." Achilleas's voice is trembling with sorrow and regret.
- Achilleas! You vile traitor!
"Y-Your Lordship|Ladyship, I..." Achilleas shakes his head, grimacing from the pain wrought by the poison gas.
(1/2)
In cumrag, Trev turns him into a bouncer
Heinrix staggers back as if from a blow. His unblinking gaze is fixed on the monster in front of you. "Scalander?"
The monster lets out a distressed howl in Achilleas's voice. "Master van Calox, you are alive... I hoped death had taken you before those monsters could do to you what they had done to me...
Heinrix clenches his fists. "I see the xenos' minion has been handsomely rewarded for his treachery. I had a sliver of hope that I might still be lucky enough to kill you myself... but I will not do so now. No, not by any means. To languish in this... form... and be deprived of His light is a far greater punishment than any I could devise." Heinrix spits on the ground in disgust. "Damn you, Achilleas. Damn. You."
A sound erupts from the monster's throat, a distorted, mangled, but still recognisable human sob.
- Heinrix was never more wrong than when he chose such a pathetic creature to be his agent.
"You are right, {name}." Heinrix's voice rings with shame. "It is my fault. I did not see the weakness in time."
In the camp
- Achilleas betrayed us.
Heinrix says nothing, making no attempt to hide the bitterness on his face. "Accepting that is... unbearable for me. Scalander was a true citizen of the Imperium and a fine agent... and the worst part is that the moment he ceased to be either passed beneath my notice!" The Interrogator closes his eyes, whether in shame or anger, you cannot tell. "I have no excuse for my offense against the Golden Throne."
You can bring him out of cumrag with clownussy's help, and he can help you on the Arena, but there's no happy ending for him, he kills himself eventually by offing himself from the spire. And Heinrix says absolutely nothing to him, he's already dead for him.
(2/2)
Wow that's worse than I expected, fricking hell Jimmi anyone would have broken from that.
>he kills himself eventually by offing himself from the spire.
That sucks, if you can get him that far I'd have hoped you could take him back and talk him out of it.
In the Yrliet route I got a slide where they eventually found his body and Marazhai even dropped by to testify about how he tortured him into betraying you. Which is just insult to injury, as is him being kept out of the loop when Emelina and her other agents used him as a patsy by feeding him info. Poor guy.
>That sucks, if you can get him that far I'd have hoped you could take him back and talk him out of it.
Not like he had a choice with that body of his - the haemonculus did turn him into an unhuman wreck. And guilt, I suppose. Ending:
The monster that returned with the Rogue Trader from Commorragh bore little resemblance to Achilleas Scalander. In rare moments of clarity, the former Inquisition agent howled like a wounded beast, pleading for death. In moments of frenzy, he violently disposed of anyone who disobeyed his {mf|master|mistress}. As time passed, the body and mind of this monster, deprived of the Haemonculus's injections, began to disintegrate, bringing him unending suffering. In a burst of madness, Achilleas leapt from a high spire on Dargonus, and his crippled soul found peace.
You can leave him in cumrag though. Ending:
There were rumours of a frightening new fighter in the arenas of Commorragh — a crippled, insane Wrack that fervently hacked his opponents to pieces. Bathing in rivers of blood, ecstatic with rage, he echoed the cries of the delighted spectators, shouting, "A-CHI-LAS! A-CHI-LAS!"
Or execute him for his treason, of course.
Depressing as frick, wish you could have paid Tervantias to fix him or something, dude didn't deserve this.
Impossible without making a new body probably
You know what's even worse? This dialogue
"Your Lordship|Ladyship, my agents report that Kunrad Voigtvir and his pet xenos will soon arrive. We have roughly an hour to inspect the station and set up the ambush. Unless, of course, you prefer to face the conspirators head-on." Achilleas brings a trembling hand with his gilded respirator to his lips.
Heinrix looks at Achilleas intently. "A shrewd and well-considered suggestion. I can see that you have taken the time to learn as much about this station as you could. Good work."
Achilleas coughs. "Far from it, Master van Calox. Alas, my options were rather limited: we never properly scouted this place." He lowers his head, too ashamed to bring himself to look Heinrix in the eye.
>be achilleas
>want to share your troubles
>is mind-broken quite literally
>but your boss is a fricking jimmi "sorry, i got distracted by rt's pussy" van calox
>and your boss' boss is busy stealing suns for his keikaku
The boy was on suicide watch long before cumrag
How would YOU force the party into cumrag?
Make it about c**trad baiting you into act 3. So your hallucinations about the hatred towards him were justified.
i thnk owlkeks kinda forgot about him lul
I still don't get why they gave him voiced lines and aparent plot importance and then sidelined him for the more boring Uralon instead.
It's funny, they gave him two portraits and VO, but flipped him off so hard
I have to suspect a rewrite there, like how Calligos, Chorda and the Calcazar Yremeryss plot were supposed to be more important and had content in act 4. Also the Heretic reflection somehow teamed up with him instead of killing him but you can't do that.
>sidelined for uralon
i wouldn't call being replaced by a some gay with even less creentime "being sidelined"
Ok so here is the new Chorda bridge dialogue they added, it has more options that open up with choice #3
The choice 3 options.
Not as in depth as normal companion dialogues go of course, but still pretty good.
Cool, report if they fixed the endings if you plan on finishing again. Also welcome back sloppabro
Will do. Curious to see how final boss is on daring after patch, last time he was killed on round 2 by a Yrliet crit at around 12k hp.
this gives me hope that Owlcat might add in more content to some companion quests, romances and endings in the future.
Both dogma Chorda and icono Chorda are in, Uralon's in the files, and Calligos isn't in yet, but Starrok said those two just didn't make it into 1.1 yet
Have they ever said if you CAN recruit Calligos as Icono? I've seen people say you should be able to if you talk to the (bugged) village chief but I can't tell if that's true or not.
You can't. He was never meant to be a companion for icono. Only heretic.
That sucks, who even picks icono and would rather have Chorda than Calligos?
I WANT MY CLOWN BF (BEST FRIEND) REEEEEE
t. iconotard
Not fair, obviously clown >>>>>>>>>>>> Calligos >>>>>>> Chorda.
What would be Icono reasoning to pick Chorda
"I can fix her" because there's a dialogue option to redeem her? But you can do that with Calligos too and he seemed more Icono-friendly than Chorda before the whole heresy thing.
Just to add evidence for this, you can see all the ending slides in the localization files, and there's no ending where Calligos is alive and well. He's always dead, crippled, or Khorney.
Finally. A step in the right direction.
is caligos quest fixed already?
can you finally recruit him as dogmatic/iconoclast?
What would be a good 2nd weapon for Yrlicel?
technically a pistol so she can shot in melee unlike her sniper rifle
however you're very unlikely to actually use it so just equip her with whatever looks cool on her back/hip
Will femRTs ever have the option to have Muaran hatefrick them or get thank you for saving me sex from Eklendyl?
no, but mantraders will
I fricking wish. Also comfy gentle handholding with either of them once they realize (some) mon-keigh aren't so bad.
Muaran is shit
Nta but Muaran is great because he's the closest to your actual genuine Eldar who manipulate stupid mon-keigh into fighting each other and would never cry and apologize for not trusting you and other embarassing shit. I would frick him in a heartbeat but he's probably way more picky than Yrliet.
>anon wants to be a doormat the post
Go back to bg3
more like go back to Marazhai romance which I will
>I would frick him in a heartbeat but he's probably way more picky than Yrliet.
Yrlikek might be a desperate af femcel, but Zhai is an ultimate pervert. What shit are you into and how you look?
>Zhai
She's talking about Muaran
>he's probably way more picky than Yrliet.
rape it is
he is. that's what makes hate sex so great
He barely has any lines. Touch grass.
>i will put in motion a plan that will result in total eldar death on this world as well as chaos corruption becasue i'm having a woman moment
he is shit, but that's typical for eldar
with everything happening in the expanse it might have worked to get vyatt and some of the rebels to kill each other which would kill most of the chaos too and then they can rule the planet from the shadows
it wasn't that bad of a plan before you showed up
it was a moronic fricking plan. janus is providing food for half your planets, if not all of them, shit going down there WILL inevitably attract attention. And, waddaya know - it did
yes but that's because you're the one competent human being in the expanse and also care about what's happening there
if they took over the planet and made their servants pose as rulers and send food most people wouldn't care
Your mom barely has any lines
Muaran you salty homosexual step away from the cogitator
We need to have door-chan melt Muaran's heart
You delusional homosexuals come up with some most moronic ships I swear
Ganker fanfics aside, there should have been an option to have some of the Eldar Farseers help her with her powers (Yrliet mentions this in Idira's quest iirc)
She made it pretty clear she doesn't want help
No? The player is the deciding factor if she goes through with the helmet or not, she responds to Yrliet's proposal that they didn't want to help her, let alone a mon-keigh
She wants an instant solution, not work hand or train herself.
>She wants an instant solution
>goes cold turkey and ends up finding jesus in one of her epilogues
get real, Idira's great
>{n}Yrliet is warily observing Idira from under her lowered lids.{/n} "You do not have to resort to... a solution like this. There are other ways... My kind have other technology, devices not designed purely to scourge the soul...""
>"Oh yeah, Red, I'm sure they do. And as soon as I visit your nearest and dearest, I'm sure they'll welcome me with open arms and spoil me with gifts... Look, Yrliet, if you're not on great terms with them, then what chance does a mon-keigh witch have?""
Holy shit she says this while you're possibly allied with the Janus bunch? Fricks sake it's at least worth a try.
In my run where my RT was romancing Yrliet she says this so when Idira says "if you're not on great terms with them" could be referring to the Eldar abandoning her after spirit stone broke
But yeah considering Eklendyl who is nicer and grateful to RT is around, they could have gotten him to help her somehow
only morons ally with janus knife-ears and it was never supposed to be the default path that much is obvious
figuratively or literally?
How many elf mages are there to find in cumrag?
4 One who's soul in trapped in chessboard, one trapped in test tube, one that's fused together with random citizens into a frankenstein's eldar and Eklendyl who is trapped in a hanging cage
Honestly I'm kinda amazed that anyone who's not doing w completely heretical playthrough recruited Mazarai at all.
Like, after the shit he pulled, everyone's just okay with having him around?
Works fine for my xeno-loving Icono, basically you have a deal to fight each other's enemies and you get to chat with strange new xenos most people would never have a chance to and get to listen to cool Commorragh trivia and maybe flirt a bit sometimes. And I like the irony of two people that got fricked over by Calcazar and Yremeryss shenanigans teaming up instead.
Hmm...I just noticed: Best fate for Yrliet will be when you not invite to your retinue after killing Vincenza. In that case Yrliet just bid you farewell and leave...so she will not take place in incident on Cumrag and will simply keep travel on her Path
Yeah, pretty much. At least she won't end up on a fricking voidship
Then she'd be stuck on Janus. Having her with you, romancing her but letting her do the ritual properly seems like a better ending. As long as you get loyal Pasqal ending that is.
She will stuck on Janus, but will have chance to travel in other way...when she is with you, Marzipan will trick her into betraying you which may be no good to her health
Total Knife-ear Death!
Nope.
>be an elf lover in all games
>never bothered much with wh lore before
>finish rt
>turned into an elf hater
At last I truly see
>tfw shill wars are still being waged in your name
>want to play using dual pistols (plasma+melta) for ultrakino
>my autism COMPELS me to play melee because swords are cooler than guns
Ack
Why was she "exploring' my quarters to begin with? "Different notions of ptivacy' my ass, that's not an explanation, she's likely a creep
She's just kinda moronic
>"Do you have something to hide??? Huh??? you monkeigh??"
Into an airlock
It's also weird because in one of the eldar novels they actually do have rooms with a kind of psychic doorbell so they don't normally barge into each other's rooms all the time. Maybe Crudarach was just different.
Every craftworld has it's own culture so sorta
In the path series the do kinda barge, tho might wait for an invitation after opening the door (depenign on a situation), and might also warn of their arrival through Infinity Circuit (imagine dying and becoming a social network for your decendants)
>Maybe Crudarach was just different
No, Yrlet is "different"
austim
Its to acquire samples from your laundry basket, so she can better tell if your scent has changed.
>And I can see all the heaviness that has accumulated in your soul during our travels
>I... see it
>In the tilt of your head. In the change in your scent. If you will allow me...
Yrliet is peak bad writing of rt, even worse than Jae
what's badly written about jae? Yes, her accent and verbal tick are unpleasant but that's not exactly bad writing
It's a modern crpg, "badly written" means "I don't like it"
Anti-Yrliet gays always use the wrong talking points when shilling against her going on about her intentions, It's clear that she didn't want to get RT captured, the things that matter was the torture the crew endured.
The talking point should be "Intentions be damned the crew had to endure horrific shit because she withheld info. Her stupidity makes her both a danger to herself and the people around her." which would be a factual argument.
Achilleas also didn't want to betray you. Doesn't change the fact that he did. And so did she.
>the crew had to endure horrific shit because she withheld info
i've seen this point made many times, and made it myself. lurk moar
Yeah but then you can blame Jimmi for trusting the guy he knows got drukhari'd, like a day after the ship almost got blown up by another guy they did it to. Or if people don't trust what Marzipan says you should assume all the Inquisition people were in on the plan to have your worlds raided and so on. You kinda have to allow for intentions so then if you hate Yrliet you have to ignore hers.
The thing with Jimmi is that he didn't betray you directly. Those two and a half morons, on the other hand...
Jimmi is either an idiot or he strongly suspected Achilleas was compromised but didn't tell you because he chose to cling to hope and trust him as the alternative was too terrible to consider, which is basically the same as Yrliet hoping Marzipan's info was real. At least that's what would be reasonable to assume in universe, the real reason is bad writing.
Unlike Calcazar who legit doesn't trust anyone and abandoned his emotions a long time ago, his comment on jimmi about
>His mathematical mind, not given to sentiment, can be of great use in an emergency.
is a fricking TOP KEK in this context especially if you're romancing him.
Jimmi legit trusted Achilleas, he thought he's reliable. Feelsbadman it all turned out this way.
jimmy merely adopted autism, calcazar was born in it
Yeah any time someone calls Jimmi competent or cunning or whatever I fricking lol, he's absolutely terrible at it. The game however wants to have it both ways and make you think he's competent but somehow didn't even suspect the guy demonstrably lying about several things after spending some time with drukhari.
It's okay I like his humane side more anyway
>threads only active duting euro hours
interedasting. americans aren't into warhammer, or not into crpgs?
its eastern american hours idiot
>eastern american
it's evening in europe, which is when most people come home
>or not into crpgs
This, since they require IQ60+
Also reading, the 2nd greatest bane of Americans (after a healthy diet).
Would u forgive her if she laid an egg
I'd make a fried egg in front of her, chewing in delight
how are you even supposed to play the tabletop of rogue trader? i've played a d100 system before (CoC) and that was easy enough to understand, but rogue trader has so many percentage based rules to keep track of... especially talents. like how are you supposed to keep track every time you take a shot that you akshually deal 3.67% more damage than normal? this seems like a video game first and foremost, and not something that can be enjoyed as an actual ttrpg without your GM being a literal supercomputer when it comes to all these calculations
The game takes liberties
how different are the two then?
very. tt only served as a very minor inspiration for the game.
that's really sad
owltroony does it again
You never have more than like 20-30 hp
Aurora in act 1 would be impervious to every weapon you have while killing you in one shot
I'm pretty sure tt and the video game use completely different systems.
Anon, any time the book says +10% it actually means just +10. Its obtuse that way, so if your bs is 50 and ypu get a +10% bonus from a talent its under 60, not +10% of 50, or 55.
I hate that Nomos is ignored in companion and faction ending slides. Having a star god on payroll that can protect entire expanse would solve a lot of people's shit
Yeah also I wish you could let companions other than Pasqal talk to Nomos and see what happens.
>Auntie Yrliet, will you and daddy get married?
>Nomos is ignored
as it should be. If you want none of your decisions to matter go play bing bing wahooo
>as it should be
Yeah as it should be in the ending where you don't pick him moron
Your deus ex machina WILL be ignored and you WILL seethe about it
>cheerleading shit reactivity
either an owlshill or a plebbit manchild seething at options he doesn't like
>everything I don't like is a deus ex machina
and he's not ignored in nomos ending
>and he's not ignored
In the grand narrative, true he protects the expanse. But when it comes to RT's allies and friends, he is.
For instance Jae's shit getting nuked by a random Rogue Trader. He could have gotten Yrliet a new SS from Crone World or Protect Jimmi from assassination etc.
You can't expect Nomos to do all the job
>Protect Jimmi from assassination
Just romance him breh, his "heresy" is tailor-made for iconostacy
Also, if Jae is a shadow baron, she survives and warns jimmi about this, and he survives too.
How do you think Owlcat will do the inevitable "infinite dungeon" rogue-like DLC?
For those that don't know in the same DLCs for both pathfinder games you get a huge preset dungeon placed into main campaign and a separate endless rogue-like mode where you make a custom party.
Oh and the dungeons do have a story attached so it wasn't just a complete mindless dungeon crawl in campaign
craftworld wreckage and a chance to outclown the clowns
I think they might add an option to create characters with special origins such as Tech-Priests, Space Marines and Aeldari. Most likely will have something to do with a tomb world being raided by various faction or the Crudarach wreckage being raided by various factions for enemy variety
You get suckered into joining a penitent crusade,
Chaos frickery to make a tiny box into infinite space
>infinite dungeon
>for tb
>with this battle system that barely has any builds
I fricking hope not
It will get more archetypes most likely, the 2nd DLC adds in a new one, plus if it adds in special origins like
said, could be interesting
I enjoy the combat, so I hope they add it
You are trying to escape Trazyn's museum, after the stasis fields cut out. Releasing you from stasis and also allows for a wide variety of different enemy encounters, since Trazyn has just about everything stored there.
that would actually be amazing, but you're not outstanding enough for trazyn to want you. You're just some run of the mill basic b***h rogue trader. he most likely has more impressive specimen in his collection already
Trazyn keeps backups and spares of even regular guardsmen regiments. So nabbing a Rogue Trader who even has a warrant signed with the Emperors blood would be a delectable prize for him.
He does not even need to want to shelve you, Tesseract labyrinths are his go-to weapon of last resort and "FRICKYOU".
There is an Inquisitor that could tell you.
>How do you think Owlcat will do the inevitable "infinite dungeon" rogue-like DLC?
I very much hope they simply won't. Waste of development time, and for RT it seems extra pointless since you can not even give it the "it is to try one of myriad build combos out" excuse anymore.
That said, if they are stupid enough to try doing it at all, a webway splinter or chaos shit seem the most logical routes.
Would be cool if it involves the rep factions having their interests in a particular place, so we get more interactions with them.
Deathwatch bros, I believe
The Eldar hate spawned from this game is delicious and I hope more is to follow. The more people hating the pointy eared fricks the better.
You can get discount with Ryzza, are there ways to get discount with other factions?
None
Is the discount fixed? I remember at launch it actually made everything more expensive.
Fixed
With this fricking patch, yes
no it was fixed way earlier
Kind of pissed that we don't get a good-old-boy network discount from the Navy bros if you play Navy officer.
The fricking trader for it at footfall is supposed to be the old ship you served on, ffs
I feel your pain navy bro. why don't we get any interactivity.
>The fricking trader for it at footfall is supposed to be the old ship you served on, ffs
Wait, really? Imperial Navy and Merchant Fleet that trader belongs to are supposed to be different and have different ships, although techically being divisions of single enitity
Yeah go check how a Navy officer introduces himself to c**trad right in the first talk at game start.
Unless I am very mistaken, it is the name of the cruiser you trade with.
>collectors edition delayed by 4 weeks because the shipping containers don't want to go through the Suez canal
I just want my fishwife to come home safely
Please don't hotglue the fsh
Hotglue her and post pics
its her new home, you can't take the ocean out of the fish
Surely your not implying she made a mistake while navigating?
Is drunk driving taboo for a Navigator?
no but having sex while navigating is
Blind Wildcat drew that
How much DLCs do you think this game will get beyond season pass 1?
If they keep things going as now, and do not go full moronic on the two announced ones, I think we'll see a third DLC at least.
I think we might get 2 more season passes if they are competent with the DLC. And I hope one of them Crude Rock.
me too, I want to kill more eldar
this, I don't get why anti-eldar gays seethe about more space elf dlcs, it just gives more space elves to kill
Because I'm not larping as a "le kill elves xd"gay, they're already the most important xenos faction in the game, the only xenos companions, and they completely overshadowed the necrons, enough is enough
>enough is enough
Nah, more elves and more nercrons
Expand both existing xeno storylines, instead of just adding in random new ones (apart from Orks, they make sense to add in since they are mentioned a few times in the game tho you never get to see them)
Get your own game homosexual
Same can be said to you, this is a space elf game, deal with it
kys
lol seethe
>none of the dlcs mention anything xeno related
>starrok said cuckoordah isn't even a cut content
Enjoy the year humanityphobe, as I shall enjoy watching your hope melt in each and every thread
>humanityphobe
And I look forward to those and any DLC that features any faction as long as it's well done , nice cope that that's supposed to be an "own". You were the one having a meltdown because someone said more Eldar stuff.
It's perfectly fine that a faction gets focused on in the game. I hope both Eldar and Necrons get more shit.
Nice try elfricker
kek keep coping and projecting your manchild faction tribalism onto me mate, unlike you I don't seethe if factions I don't care about get content as long as it's good
I had enough of "good" aeldari content made by owlcats for the rest of my life, thanks.
What's the problem if the game heavily features Eldar? The game doesn't have to have a faction menagerie, just like Mechanicus only being about Admech and Necrons or Space Marine being bout Imperium vs Orkz and Chaos.
Because it's just fricking elves and there's a lot of them
>I don't like a faction so the devs have to cater to me and not focus on them
>name the game rogue trader
>it's actually aeldarifinder
Nice misleading marketing homosexual
Deldar get way more shit than Craftworlder and it's appearing at end of act 2 and short act 3, crafties get a unfinished story. Your overexaggaration of Eldar "taking over the story " is pure butthurt.
Yeah, let's add ynnari then, why not? Clearly there are not enough elves, they should take 90% of the game, right?
god i love watching orkatrds and taucucks seethe
>implying I'm fond of any xeno
>What's the problem if the game heavily features Eldar?
Eldar are the worst faction in 40k and their fanbase and players are by far the most annoying. The less they're involved in something the better, in fact the entire settinf would be improved if every Eldar faction was removed overnight.
There are worse factions like the Leagues of Wotann. But Owlcat could atleast have focused on Exodites and Clowns, instead of the two most used Eldar factions.
>The game doesn't have to have a faction menagerie
They tried to include a bit of everything.
>genestealers side mission
>Slaanesh cult
>Khorne marines in some frozen planet
>Nurgle black ship
>Tzeentch
>Word bearers
>Mechanicum
>Eldars
>Necrons
They left out orks and taus, so I bet we will see both in the dlcs.
Space Marine 2 is gonna be about Space Smurfs and Trannoids invasions so that's why there is only one side mission with them.
>Space Marine 2 is gonna be about Space Smurfs and Trannoids invasions so that's why there is only one side mission with them.
If were what Owlcat or GW are thinking/planning, I'd call them stupid.
I'd say RT is one of the closest things to an influx of new IP fans they are getting right now, so showing muh tyrannid swarm menace off could only help interest in SM2.
And the existing 40k crowd would be anything but turned away by it too.
Cant wait for Leandros to accuse me of being a Tyranid in disguise or something.
>Inquisitor Jimmy, i believe Titus is actually a Hormagaunt in disguise!
>Nah, more elves and more nercrons
Corsair vs Necron DLC?
Rather Orks, but I'll take it
A random Ork Freebooter somehow ends up on the Corsairs ship. But the knife ears are doing pirate stuff all the time so he is just chillin.
Evayne step away from the cogitator
Because your elves took more than half of the game for themselves, and rogue trader isn't even about trading at this point, just solving xeno problems.
Sometimes you solve Xeno's problems. Other times you solve the Xeno problem.
>scriptzones for banters trigger only once
Why are owlcats so moronic holy frick
It evens out, since you can make scenes trigger twice.
>save after Fishfu gave me the courting advice book
>quit game, make food, eat
>sit down, start game, load last save
>Fishfu acts like if I just started the convo
>"umm maybe it was loading the save from before the talk?!"
>nope, the book is already in my inventory
Dont even want to find out what will happen if you start picking different dialog triggers in such cases, I am quite content with my owlcat-allocated bugs without producing some on purpose.
The Fish is just autistically making sure you have the book, so she "sneakily" gives you an extra copy.
Is it just me... or fleft and right femRT's buttocks in character creation have different size?
tau gays in disguise
Don't care much for more Eldar, I'd rather see more varied Imperial worlds, and I am slightly more interested in backwaters than fortresses or hives
And if some knife ears fan at owlcat HAS to make it more space elves, at least make it exodites. They are criminally underused anyway.
Seriously. The last representation of Exodites i can remember was like ten pages of The Infinite and The Divine.
>I'd rather see more varied Imperial worlds, and I am slightly more interested in backwaters than fortresses or hives
THIS
The Eldargays while annoying posters in general just want to see more of their faction, being fine with others that are not space elves getting content.
But the timmygays are 10x more annoying because they instantly seethe at anons that desire content for any race that they don't personally like mindbroken trannies, thinking the world revolves around their wishes, every single time.
Congratulations you manage to be more insuferable than elf-coomers
>want to see more of their faction,
Too bad, Eldar fricking suck.
>Timmygays
Go back to crying on /tg/, eldargay, you're not fooling anybidy
>Too bad, Eldar fricking suck.
In your shitty opinion.
I like em (the race not their fanbase) in my shitty opinion.
But you're gonna seethe like a sheltered redditor and can't accept the fact that your fee-fees aren't facts everyone agrees with
People like you are more annoying than almost all eldargay
>clementia now has butch hairstyle
Brb checking for the suicide watch
The devs will add whatever they damn want to add. And the seething of eldargays or antieldargays will change nothing. Shut the frick up.
Shut the frick up
Sororitas are meant for Eldar
argenta and marazhai could bond over murder tbh
I figure if Argenta and Jimmy could work together to set up some kind of internship for Marzipan, then his bloodlust could probably be sated while being productive.
>hmm this xenos is highly heretical
>but hes also our best torturer i mean interrogator
well whatever all is in service to the throne
Ganker opinions on Eldar are always funny because anyone who plays tabletop very quickly comes to hate CWE and anyone who plays them.
I don't care how they play in tabletop because i've always been a ttrpg player not a toy soldiers manchild
Isnt that mostly because the Eldar have the highest win rate by a fair margent?
Yes, but that's because Eldar tend to hage absurdly busted rules that aren't fun to play against in the slightest. There's often rules for them which 'slip past' the typical balance checks and end up being caught by players who pick up Eldar armies for cheap wins.
For example in the latest edition, Wraithknights alone caused two entire General Rules for THE ENTIRE GAME to be changed, fricking over other armies im the process because the person writing the Eldar rules made it so Wraithknights could casually delete any unit on the field with ease.
reject modernity
embrace tradition
>accepted all the refugees
Tyranidbros, cum
Sorry jimmi, but If girlyman tries to save IG grunts after fighting fricking nurgle that sort of shit is likely going to be SOP soon.
Why do DOTS have to suck in this game?
fights are over very fast, they don't do much
>over time
>system enables you to kill next to anything in the first round unless you do it wrong
mystery for the ages
doesn't help that few exceptions usually aren't flesh, so bleeding or poison are a joke.
Only DOTS even having any point are navi or psyker exclusive.
Combat to fast to get any use out of them
We need more about the emperor during his caveman Twink days
I love Argenta so much it's unreal bros
she loves you too(platonically)
So does Yrliprostitute, unlike the Eldar hunks that she lets ravage her xenodicky
all eldar men are femboys that get breeded by astartes though
i've seen what marazhai looks like under his armour. that ain't no femboy, bro
Kys
>let's cumtown's dr Mengele stab her (and most likely dick her)
>doesn't let iconotranimal touch her
>doesn't promise not to frick Eldar while dating iconotranimal
10/10 owlcat romance
Pretty sure you posted that one at a earlier thread. Atleast be original Froggy.
did you know that advancing janus or maybe dargonus lock you out of recruiting jae ? frick this, my last save is at the cenobium...
Yep it is hinted that her quest is urgent because people might be coming for her
b***h why, she tried the warehouse alone with her little crew and got raoed by comvat servitors ? what a dumb c**t
Not likely, the Consortium is a coalition of criminals and having her cargo seized was a message from the more powerful groups that she wasn't welcome anymore and her options were basically attach herself to a bigger fish (you), start over somewhere else, or stay/don't leave in time and die.
I finished the broken pirated edition already. Might buy it on sale with dlc around christmas.
Game should be in a pretty damn good state by then
I have no idea what the frick was happening in Pasqal's quest and I'm not sure what I just did.
From what I as a brainlet understood Amarnat wasn't a person it was the name of a collective of several tech priests, then they wiped their memories clean to protect themselves and the knowledge from calcazar's grubby hands or something. ANd then you have an option to unlock the knowledge again.
Reject Lex Imperialis
It looks like her skull her head is turned indifferently of her neck
Among other things
nice bulge, bro. I think i'll stick to human women after all
Lord Captain, with all due respect but I must speak out against this hole Casual Friday concept
Is the femRT sub or dom in this one?
>femrt
always a pliant bottom getting bullied in front of abelard
Man, this Evayne guy really REALLY wants to get into my femrt's panties. Abelard is ready to go full momma bear.
moments like these are why I always have my loyal senchal deployed.
are comfy rt threads dying?
Come home, /vg/ man.
it's full of pathtrannies
You're going to have an aneurysm once you learn most of this thread has played pathfinder too
I don't have anything against pathfinder games, I've played them and they're great, in fact i'm playing wotr right now, but I don't want to associate with pathtrannies
Fair enough Pathfindergays are cancer
Man, did Abelard's starting armor always look like this? I could've sworn it looked way different.
Also, Argenta is equipped with it. Even though it's heavy armor and Argenta can't equip heavy armor.
I really should've payed more attention during the intro my first time around.
>did Abelard's starting armor always look like this?
No, pretty sure that was either in patch or from the former one, shit was new to me too
>Abelard now starts with Heavy Armour Proficiency and base heavy armour. Brace yourself, Abelard!
Dunno why Argenta got it, too, though. That's wonky.
>overvexed still overwrites the permanent Voice of Command from Finest Hour upgrade 1
Why does Owlcat never fix bugs that plague my game?
Welp, just found the best mod ever:
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/106
Main character should always be a (Sanctic Psyker) Officer.
>literally two clicks in toybox
Do you guys reckon Cassia has a bush down there or not?
She doesn't have body hair
How do you know?
It's one of the possible mutations, pale hairless skin with veins popping up
That mutation also removed head hair, if I'm not mistaken
But do we know if Cassia has it? Also I assume every mutation has different variants, so even if it removed 90% of body hair it could still be there on some body parts.
I assume she does because she's extremely pale and you can clearly see her veins over her body.
Does she wear a wig tho?
Tbf it's unclear if "skin without hair" refers to scalp
bump
I said body hair but if what
is true then they probably just have her actual hair because they know nobody likes baldies
Is melee fun in this game? I imagine most enemies are using guns so it seems like you‘d need to soak loads of damage before even being able to attack yourself
No, don't do it.
Ok
Do this
the damage nukes you get are absurdly big. Plus main character really should be an officer commanding his retinue.
Melee is great and fun it just doesn't really kick in vs tough enemies until act 2 when you can start swinging for over 100 damage multiple times a turn.
>no cute, blonde dyke waifu
Shit game
>Cute blond
Basicest taste
Give me fun alternative build please, I'm tired of the same arch militant with high firerate weapon/ Officer barking at the back instead of leading by example / vanguard using melee/ sniper bounty hunter/ etc.