>Smogon is great because every Pokemon gets to be good in some tie-
>Smogon is great because every Pokemon gets to be good in some tie-
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Isn't this fucking thing OP as fuck in BW?
Not OP as fuck, but it could hit like a truck on sand teams
he’s good in random battles 🙂
Stoutland is a top tier PU Pokemon in every generation its in. If you want a Wallbreaker with Good Coverage in PU, you pick Stoutland
Can't believe some retards used Komala like this too in gen 7 but with Sleep talk instead of Retaliate
That’s actually hilariously genius
It was fun
Imagine being part of a piece of shit community where they pretend you can do whatever you want but make you feel like shit if you want to try to find some good starts
I had to figure out on my own that Cursola with an assault vest against special attackers is pretty fun
>Cursola is pure ghost
What the fuck?
Gen 8 loved monotypes for some reason
Man, fuck I wish we got it in Gen 9
Gen 9 fucking loved adding unused type combinations
We would have finally gotten Rock/Ghost
Gen 9 so far is tied with (base) Gen 8 as far as unused types being added. So far Gen 8 after DLC and Legends has still added more unused type combos.
What type combos did Legends add?
Fighting/Poison and Normal/Ghost, nevermind.
fighting/poison isn't new, Croagunk and Toxicroak had it in gen 4
Then it was just normal/ghost.
You can honestly make any set “work” to a degree, but if your goal is to win consistently then you need Pokémon that are good enough to consistently perform well in battles. It’s that simple. If you just want to have fun and don’t care about winning, then go ahead and use whatever you want. You’ll probably win every now and then if you’re good enough
I get that G-Corsola is a much better choice with it's gimmick but you can't seriously think Cursola is useless, it's basically stronger than Gengar and Perish Body punishes physical attackers
worse speed and movepool.
Perish Body also affects Cursola. On the off chance it survives a resisted physical hit, it's on a timer to switch out or die as well. Nobody whats to use a bulky attacker like that.
Anon, there are plenty of Pokemon with massive stats who can't do shit due to other factors.
Like Rampardos, but still, I agree with the general point that shouldn't act like they are useless, they are still pretty nice to use
>Rampardos
Friendly reminder that "they went extinct for a reason" is a bullshit excuse for shit like this.
There is NOTHING preventing a fossil Pokémon from having good stats and movepool. Same can be said for almost every Rock-type Pokémon as well.
>"they went extinct for a reason" i
Hell, this excuse makes even less sense when Dracovish is so overpowered despite when it canonically shouldnt even exist.
Dracovish never went extinct.
Dracovish is actually an entirely new species.
Although saying "they went extinct for a reason" is stupid since survival of the fittest isn't survival of the physically strongest. Plenty of species died out despite being able to kill most other animals, and some survived better being domesticated.
A better example would be Bolt Beak from the fossilized bird, which only has 75 spd when stuck to the Draco legs, and would presumably be much faster if it was originally a Rock/Electric raptor.
The original form of the fish fossil is less likely to be any faster, although may have had Swift Swim, which would make it even more devastating in the rain.
165 Attack Stat is fucking massive and I'm glad my boy still ranks among the highest
you give that bro rock head and a usable speed stat and he goes straight to ubers
I just like pressing a button and doing massive damage
PLA Strong Style Rampardos is so fucking satisfying, even though Head Smash fucking kills him
Yes.
Imagine Hoopa-C, but worse in literally every way imaginable.
>Every stat besides SpD is lower, which effectively means worse SpD because of lower HP
>All abilities would be great on majority of Pokemon, but Cursola is too frail to ever take a decent physical attack and would still be too slow to abuse Weak Armor
>Fighting coverage is literally just Revenge, only Bug coverage physical moves, and no Fairy coverage, so it can’t defend itself against Dark types
>Best boosting move it has is Calm Mind, no Nasty Plot
>Can’t supliment its awful speed with Trick Room
>Only things it has over Hoopa are Stealth Rock, Strength Sap, and Will-o-wisp, none of which it can pull off nor would it be enough to offset the drop in everything else
Are you so insecure that your feelings are hurt when you think a set might be good, only to find out it's shit? Do you require the validation of online nobodies that badly?
Also, if your set is shit, take it to OU and win with it to prove you're that skilled. Many top OU players will utilize shitmons unironically. Blunder has showcases where he'll use the occasional Tropius on high ladder. None of that PIMPNITE staged garbage.
Imagine caring this much about Poketubers who ALL fake their videos.
>Don't use [pokémon]
Are they the police of Pokémon???
They just get outclassed, thats what the smogonchud meant.
Just play with whatever the fuck you want, if youre good you can predict and outplay the fuck out of the majority of players running meta teams
>110 atk
>80 speed
>Good abilities
>Somehow outclassed even in PU
??? How hard did the power creep hit?
it lost return
WHY DIDNT YOU SAY SO?
Yucki! THIS POKEMON STINKS!!
>WHY DIDNT YOU SAY SO?
because google is free, autistic gay
>no return
>no double edge
>no body slam
Its STAB options are Strength, Facade, and fucking Take Down.
You're allowed to use whatever shitmon you want, the purpose of the analyses is to serve as a guide for new players. Since Smogon is currently short on people to write analyses anyways, I guess they just created the "Don't use X" placeholder to warn anyone looking for a set that the mon they're choosing is not ranked or used anywhere and is probably shit.
>your punishment for hitting the mon with 60/50 physical bulk with a physical move is perish song
That's not much of a punishment anon.
Reminder the corruped omgon pedophile tier leaders unironically teammed up to shit on some pokemon so that they would drop to a lower tier to make the meta below "comfier" or fill in a missing role.
Reminder an admin gay copied my Gen 6 Specs Krookodile with Sludge Bomb to break Slowking/Tangrowth/Rotom-C/Fairyblobs & co stall cores and I am still mad about it because it even appeared as optional build in their dex eventually after most people with cookiecutter teams laughed at it while losing to a reliable gimmick.
I hate those cunts.
I don't understand this mentality of constantly making the tiers sound dogshit
PU?
ZU?
What the fuck is this shit bro, why don't you make fun of the top tier by calling the tier Tryhards
It's because they're elitists who only value the creme-de-la-crop. If it's under UU, they're labeled a shtimon and dismissed unless it becomes a counter for a metapick.
What would you call something below "Never Used"?
Untiered, duh
They have that, but the selection of sub-NU Pokemon is great enough now that there are tiers below it.
OU is called 'Overused", that's pretty much calling it a tryhard tier
Yes Smogon is shut, but it’s still an improvement over the the actual game because at last teirs exist. It’s not Smogon’s fault that Game Freak gimped some Pokémon so much that they are completely worthless.
Smogontrannies got lazy since SwShit era
They do "Restrictions", like not letting Sandy Shocks hold Mega Stones for some fucking reason, so, stop being pussies and do that more often
What?
>Sandy Shocks
>Mega Stone
???
The Surf/After You Stoutland + Dynamax Weakness Policy Gigalith combo in SWSH was really good.
>Expecting Ganker to understand the actual purpose of Pokemon
The 'Don't use X' sets are just placeholders because no one ever made an analysis and they don't want to leave the Pokemon blank. If you write up a (half-decent) analysis and submit it on their site they'll gladly publish it
You could even fake it
I know absolutely nothing about Gen 8 ZU so lets take a peek
>Kanghaskan
>Miltank
>Bouffalant
>Regigigas
Considering that one of Stoutlands competitors has the best Base Stat Total in the tier even with its attack and Speed Halved,one has Reliable Recovery, and the other has EQ and amazing coverage.... yeah it was hopeless from the start
Tiers exist for a reason so Pokemon can be adjusted properly with their comparisons.
With so many Pokemon, it's almost impossible to make everything balanced.
But at the same time, you shouldn't make anyone feel bad for wanting to use a Pokemon.
except for those Slurpuff gays
we all know you dont like the pokemon you just like being disgusting HO rats
>NOOOOO IF YOU DON'T LOVE A POKEMON YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT
What the fuck happened in analysis? I remember in gen 7 every shitter imaginable had an analysis but in gen 8 even some OU mons don't have one
Gen 8 fucking sucked, that's what happened.
If anyone ever asks which Smogon meta was the worst, remind them of the time even Smoggies didn't want to bother with it. Lets hope gen 9 doesn't get as bad.
Gen 8 truly was the worst.
mostly because gen 8 introduced the concept of the metagame massively changing with the addition of mid-gen DLC + Home releases, thus rendering previous analyses useless, and there's just not enough interest among people to do semi-frequent updates
>Oh man, this new Pokemon is great, I love him, I wonder what Strategies smogon has for-
>Don't use _____
A testament to how lazy Smoggie was in Gen 8. Firstly, Stoutland is a fine wallbreaker in Sand. Not the best, but you could get away with using it on Gigalith teams in RU. Secondly, every other gen's joke analysis actually had effort put into it. Think about Gen 5 Hoppip or Gen 6 Beautifly.
>omgon
it's still so fucking funny to me that Aegi is banned from Gen 7 OU with all the degeneracy there still is in this tier
Magearna and Greninja staying were mistakes.
>omgon
>Phone poster
>Ganker is still mindbroken because Dynamax, the only gimmick they banned, is objectively broken
checks out.
I remember I made holes on balance teams by just spamming CB Adamant Stoutland with Scrappy and Facade when Scald and Toxic was still a thing, now it's mostly Toxic Spikes that survived.