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Yeah the electric dinosaur is way too outlandish for the game series where animated rocks and fire-spitting pigs exist
Anon Raikou's true form is not a giraffe.
That's Raging Bolt, not Raikou.
That's what I'm saying. This thing is not even Raikou's past ancestor. It's an imagined creature entirely.
Most currently existing animal species were entirely different species a few million years ago.
tigers didn't evolve from the brontosaurus
But Raikou does
raikou the tiger didn't evolve from a brontosaurus. raikou was created during burned tower. raging bolt is completely made up.
don't know how much backpedaling and mental gymnastic timetravelgays need to keep doing when more and more evidence is being presented that terapagos just makes fictional shit up
Raikou was resurrected not born by Ho-Oh. Still the sketch of Heath's artist predates the Burnt Tower event so imagination theory is pretty much bunk.
>Raging Bolt and Walking Wake were alive in Johto, died in the tower fire and were resurrected as Raikou and Suicune by Ho-Oh
holy LORE
>raikou was created during burned tower
They were resurrected, not created.
Each one of them has different origins.
Entei:
>It is said that one is born every time a new volcano appears
>This Pokémon is thought to have been born in the eruption of a volcano
Suicune:
>Said to be the reincarnation of north winds
Yes, and remoras don't turn into octopuses.
>game introduces convergent pokemon
>convergent raikou
It's imagination guys trust me.
Raging Bolt is a Brontosaurus, which translates to Thunder Lizard.
Raging Bolt is also not Raikou.
I can't wait to put it on a sauropod team.
So what exactly is wrong with generically cool mons over shit like this?
One Raikou like that is enough.
If it is imagined than it’s even more moronic. Why they frick would they imagine Raikou as a long-neck?
Perhaps a reference to the questing beast
Questing beast is just a giraffe to people who hadn't seen one before.
I stop being a timetravelgay the second they showed this thing. There's just no- fricking way.
you became a gay instead
Walking Wake, Raging Bolt, and Flaming homosexual are all teases for the upcoming Legends Johto game where they will all appear
>upcoming Legends Johto game
God I hope this is true
>Implying that a new Johto game is going to have any mons beyond the original 251 plus maybe a handful of new mons and maybe some regional forms
You know what, I think it’s kinda cool in a goofy way.
It’s about as outlandish as dogs getting reborn as cats
Paradox mons aren't actually ancestors or descendants, but merely Pokemon transported through time forced to adapt into their new environments.
How can Paradox Pokemon be transported through time if a terrible occult magazine mentions them as various shit around the world
The original "forms", not the Paradoxes. Donphan was brought to the ancient past and evolved (not Pokemon evolved) into Great Tusk to better survive.
>Donphan was brought to the ancient past
I don't remember anything saying the professors were sending Pokemon to other times, just bringing them here.
The design is still funni though.
the legendary dogs shouldn't have ancestors, since they were created by Ho-Oh
Maybe these are the Pokemon that did in the tower, then.
Or, perhaps the trio simply changed over time into their modern incarnation, and that their original forms were this.
Who knows?
you're saying that a raptor and brachiosaur lived into the modern era. these dinosaurs happened to never go extinct. no person has recorded these dinosaur pokemon before either. and walking wake, raging bolt, and dino entei also happened to coincidentally be together to die and get revived at burned tower.
do you realize how much of a stretch that is?
Not him but this segment always got me
>Enigmas of Paldea, File #07 Sandy Shocks: A Magneton with a 10-Thousand-Year Lifespan?! Some scientists claim that this mysterious being is a Magneton that has lived for 10 thousand years. It has been sighted numerous times in Paldea’s more arid regions, but there are no reports of it ever having been caught. It’s said that Sandy Shocks is an aggressive sort and that some people who’ve seen it have been attacked as well. It takes its name from a beast with a matching description in the era-defining Scarlet Book.
Where the frick are all these Sandy Shocks that are apparently sauntering around Paldea, attacking pedestrians? The Pokemon most definitely exists, so the claim Occulture is making is plausible, but the magazine makes it seem like the Paradox Pokemon are on full assault on Paldea like the Ultra Beasts were when only the Donphan Paradox managed to escape, and all the others are still stuck in Area Zero.
it's just conspiracy lies ala bigfoot sightings or mothman ate my ass or whatever
The fanart redeems this design for me.
When I saw it in game I thought it was the most dogshit butchering of a beloved classic imagonable.... then I remembered pretty much all of the 3D models look dogshit compared to 2D art.
>a reptile evolving into a mammal? what an unrealistic thing to happen
WE WUZ DINOSAURS N SHIET
Growing up and realising how ridiculous the theory of evolution is, is such an amusing thing. You look back at these ridiculous diagrams that are paraded as settled science and you can't help but laugh. Seriously, what the frick is this? I'm genuinely supposed to pretend that this is even remotely grounded in reality.
>B-b-but le micro-evolution means dat dem muhfuggers could be transformin' n shieet
>Survival of le ebin fittest causes da adaptations
Yes, on a small scale we can observe minor adaptations to suit the local environment and it's natural pressures. Beyond that though is just speculation and this reptile to mammal crap is just unsavoury. Chromosome leaps or differentiation into different species, it's just ridiculous pseudoscience drivel and it's a shame that this continues to circulate in science discourse and textbooks to this day - it really erodes your faith in the entire system.
>this is the actual mental state of imaginationschizo
KEK!
yup, there it is. the most moronic shit ever spat on this board, and i don’t take giving out that achievement lightly. you impressed me today anon
Just so you know, you're right. Everyone moronic will seethe and shit themselves replying but not try to refute you.
I am so pissed about this I guess if I was a suicune stan I would have been annoyed as well but with raikou being my fave of the three I am so mad that it got such a stupid design let alone a rip off of horizon zero dawn
I still don't understand how Paradox forms of the Hamsters can even exist. Did these Prof. even bother going to Johto and learn about their history?
>Terapagos: "Oh, the humans like these kinds of Pokemon? Guess I'll make more."
Bolt and Wake are ancestors only in role as elemental avatars, not by genetics. Ancient Ho-Oh gave them life in a similar incident to the Burned Tower.
Ancient Ho-Oh is just regular Ho-Oh. Ho-Oh existed along side Kabuto which dates back to 300,000,000 million years ago.
>muh retconed lore
see ya soon when Tyranho-oh bet reveal
I can't wait until Entei is a Pterodactyl with a Volcano Head.
oh but it does exist. in the franchise that is pokemon. the creators of the series made it. it's kinda funny but also really sad.
well the Dracovolt's yellow raptor half is a Pikachu...
>So imagination chads won?
I hope so. I refuse to believe my boy looked like that.
its impossible for those homosexuals to be chads
It wasnt a competition to begin with. How dumb do you have to be to not see that they were all imagination? They're paradox because they should not exist. I bet people were "oh paradox, so its must be related with Time".
It's plain simple
>Terapagos power makes things into reality
>Professor wanted another one like him/herself, the AI appeared
>Artist starts thinking about a creature, Terapagos turn into reality in the bottom of Area Zero (in its home)
Holy frick people are dumb
you are dumb for even entertaining imagination homosexuals
Stop posting, dont waste my time
And I'm not done. I bet its going to be related with the Unova game thats coming, especially with Dream World. No game has more connection with Fantasy than BW, you even have Entralink to enter in "other people world"
I thought this was a common ancestor for all 3 legendary dogs, since it seems to borrow elements from all 3 designs.
I liked my idea better.
How does your super smart brain explain that imagined paradox legendary beast looking nothing like the actual paradox beasts?
If the imagined thing became reality, why your picrel doesn't exist instead of Walking Wake and Raging Bolt, since it is literally what was imagined?
>No way this thing actually existed.
It's Pokemon dude
Its signature move should have been a Thunder variant that was more accurate in sunlight instead of rain.
I refuse to believe this thing existed in the past.
Timetravelgays are going to be absolutely falling over themselves to explain how Terapogos spawning pokémon in the second DLCs not-safari zone is somehow proof that it's a time machine
>doesn't understand what a PARADOX is
It exists and yet it can't exist. That's what makes it a Paradox.
Past and future confirmed from Ishihara's mouth at the worlds closing ceremony. Stay wrecked
at least you can "imagine" you didn't get btfo by reality, past, present, and future
i'll see you in the btfo image collage a year from now
of course, this was obvious from the box legend reveals, Koraidon (past-don) and Miraidon (future-don)
keep imagining tho
I miss the Donphan schizo
>OMG IT'S IMAGINATION LOOK THE DONPHAN'S
>SOME DETAILS ARE SLIGHTLY OFF IT PROVES IT
>TERAPOGOS JUST MADE IT AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE
>Raging Bolt
>silence
That's obviously a drawing of Walking Wake though, schizo.
ah yes, walking wake. my favorite quadrupedal sabertooth beast
You see the giant crest and the mane, right? Like, you're not blind, you're just pretending to be moronic?
Notice all the other features that the image is pointing directly at that you're choosing to ignore? This is what mental illness looks like.
Does Raging Bolt have a giant suicide crest on its head? Just wondering, since you think it's a drawing of Raging Bolt. If you aren't pretending, then you're just moronic.
>you see [things that exist on suicune but not walking wake]
wow, amazing
Have you ever looked at Walking Wake?
I don't mind Raging Bolt and actually really like Walking Wake but dammit I'll admit that the "combined" version is just too damn good
No wonder why Ho-oh burned the twin towers to the ground.
How would that massive Not-Raikou even enter the tower?
Raging Bolt is a prehistoric antecessor of Raikou, not "Raikou's original form".
prehistoric ancestors look nothing like modern day animals. saying the prehistoric ancestor of a dog is just a dog but more cavemanny and flintstones-esque is dumb.
likewise paradox pokemon just being the same pokemon but put through a flintstones filter is also equally suspicious considering pokemon designers take the time to make actual ancient fossil pokemon. seems more like raging bolt and walking wake is if you asked an 8 year old what they think their ancestors looks like.
> prehistoric ancestors look nothing like modern day animals
you’re right, timesister. That prehistoric dolphin look nothing like a modern one
>dolphin
NTA but all paradox Pokemon look like their modern forms with alterations as supported by the source material, like the other anon said, the Paradox Pokemon are just normal Pokemon with flinstones/jetsons filters, which is a far cry from how actual fossil Pokemon were treated, i.e Archen being called the progenitor of all bird Pokemon while Flutter Mane is Misdrevus but goth.
>which is a far cry from how actual fossil Pokemon were treated, i.e Archen being called the progenitor of all bird Pokemon while Flutter Mane is Misdrevus but goth.
Golly gee, it’s almost as if GF got worse at designing mons after gen 5 or something
Eh it's one thing not to like the designs but the past Paradox Pokemon clearly set out to do something entirely different from the actual fossilmons.
Fossilmons were Pokemon based off of the actual life forms that lived in whatever times they were from, past Paradox mons take existing Pokemon and try to make them fit the idea of what a dinosaur would be, giving us insane shit like Raikou being a lizard just because dinosaurs are lizards, or turning Amoonguss into a quadruped because dinosaurs were quadrupeds, does that make sense? They designed backwards.
This. The shift of narrative from "it was its original form" to "it was an ancestor" doesn't really work when you look at it and its a fricking furry brontosaurus with the face of a tiger.
>they dont know
thre's no way people on /vp/ can be this fricking stupid.
>no argument
concession accepted
>he still dosen't get it
anon take a closer look at that "dolphin"
the fact they said dolphin instead of fish or shark wasn't the point I was arguing. but the fact a dinosaur fish can look like a modern day fish isn't the same as a jigglypuff vs. a jigglypuff with flintstones filter over it
>are unable to make the difference between a mammal, a fish and a reptile
the smartest of all imaginationgays.
Anon that still isn't the point any of us are talking about.
>complain about how the evolution of paradox mons dosnet make any sense
>while also being too stupid to even understand real evolution and phreistoric animal
idiot. also your point is weak as shit
>hur dur, the past paradox look like modern pokemon but with more primal looking traits
no shit sherlock, its almost as if they're 5the ancestor of moders pokemons or some shit. they just change over milenias to keep what was working and lost what wasn't (brute bonnet learnt to use it's poisons and spores to hurt his predators instead of directly fighting them, and so overtime itlost the need to grow legs, teeths or even being big to survive)
Again, we have actual examples of ancient Pokemon evolving, and they're much closer to life than "dino mushroom turns into a normal mushroom".
to be the ancestor of most turtle Pokémon, it lived in warm seas approximately a hundred million years ago.
>>Said to be an ancestor of bird Pokémon, they were unable to fly and moved about by hopping from one branch to another.
You're trying to argue that the difference between ancient Paradox and modern Paradoxes can be explained by the Pokemon gradually adapting over however many millions of years, but the problem is actual ancient Pokemon refute this on account of being far different from anything in modern times on top of being based off the actual things that lived in prehistory.
Meanwhile Paradox Pokemon are LITERALLY just what if Donphan was a dinosaur. What if Raikou was a dinosaur. What if Misdreavus was a dinosaur, and expecting us to believe at face value that they all came from a "time machine" run by a genuine tabloid reading lunatic using magic crystals from space.
I also want to add that regionals prove that Pokemon can adapt stupidly fast to their environment considering the Hisuian starters were Pokemon that weren't even born in Hisui but still turn into new forms anyway, but this is neither here nor there.
Anon I don't care about that fish thing, my post was addressing the argument about past Pokemon looking nearly identical to modern Pokemon, unless that post was being moronic on purpose or whatever.
great cherrypicking abilities. now choose 10 other random animals and see if you get similar looking results because apparently that's what all paradox pokemon do.
quit acting moronic, you know prehistoric dogs and cats are dumb and stuff like flutter mane and brute bonnet are too on the nose. they could've easily just came up with more fossilmons that look like legit undiscovered prehistoric dinosaurs for Scarlet like every other gen in the past but they didn't go in that direction. and that's done on purpose
Use your imagination
>imaginationgay
>being able to properly use their imagination
>ever
lol
The tower was built around him, with him acting as the central pillar.
electric protogiraffe waifu
>Saber tooth cat ancestor is a fricking brachiosaurus
Only literally morons think this thing existed and isn't bullshit.
This kills the timetravelgay
hidden power=tera blast
crystals=crystals
book=book
I might be going insane but i still think most of ideas about "time travel" came from this movie
>that shape
L O R E
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Arceus is unironically one of the few things with most soul in pokemon and only few people will notice it
Ho-oh created it so it doesn't need to make biological sense.
There's no way you guys are still arguing about it. It exists because GF wants it to, theres no more reason than that. GF does not give a shit about lore or consistent writing, that shouldve been clear when they introduced regidraco and regieleki
If Game Freak wanted to delve into time travel in these games, then Indigo Disk would be set in the past/future instead of featuring random ecosystems inside an artificial island. And yes, they would make the Paradox designs more intuitive and, well, not call them a paradox. It's dumbfounding to think that Pokemon are supposed to turn into robots and yet this isn't worth exploring at all.
Does anyone really think that Terapagos has time powers? Or that the professor actually created an AI version of themselves after *wishing* for a clone?
"I need another set of hands, but could they be trusted? And how long would it take them to even understand? If only there were two of me."
By that logic, couldn’t Cynthiagays also imagine Cynthia defeating and humiliating a plasma grunt? And it would take significantly less effort on their part since it’s not really much is a stretch to say a Champion could overpower a grunt
Correct.