So my group has finally gotten sick of playing D&D and we collectively decided to start playing Vampire the Masquerade since we couldnt decided on...

So my group has finally gotten sick of playing D&D and we collectively decided to start playing Vampire the Masquerade since we couldnt decided on which edition of shadowrun to try out. My only real knowledge of VtM comes from playing Bloodlines when I was a teenager. We decided to go with V5 and after combing through the book... it just feels streamlined. I remember Malkavians having Dementation from Bloodlines but in V5 they have Dominate. I can only imagine how other clans had their signature disciplines gutted and added to a more broader discipline.

We already bought the core book for V5 and are debating on buying the others. Should we buy the other books or should I advocate for a different edition entirely?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Malkavians originally had Dominate. Dementation was a replacement in a later edition. V5 went back to the roots and gave Malkavians Dominate again, but rolled Dementation into Dominate. So Malks can still get Dementation, it's just part of Dominate now.

    Clans in VtM never had signature Disciplines. If you want a game with more unique clans where each clan has their own signature Discipline, play Vampire the Requiem.

    >or should I advocate for a different edition entirely?
    Yeah, Vampire the REQUIEM: Second Edition

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. Go with Requiem. Its rules for xp is way better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Requiem 1.0 is fine, at least the writing is less watered down (but not as bad as V5.... christ, they made that setting shit there)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't listen to
      There's always some discord shills trying to push Requiem in threads like this to get more people interested even though it's nothing to do with Masquerade and has different lore and fluff entirely. System sucks too.
      If you want Masquerade like it was in Bloodlines, then you want VtM Revised, or V20. This has the actual Clans and fluff from Bloodlines.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >V5
      Why play in gWoD when you could play in oWoD? V5 is absolutely fucking trash. My recommendation is and continues to be to play V20 as a base and then use fluff and content from V2 and VR (V20 is mostly a rules revision and rules bible).

      >Vampire the REQUIEM: Second Edition
      But anon, nWoD is also shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >gWoD
        What's the g stand for? Gay?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why?
        The state of oWoD players. The combination of liking oWoD and only liking CtL of the new lines is a dead giveaway for someone who should never be left alone around children.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >only liking CtL
          What the fuck does this have to do with "oWoD players" or "combination of liking oWoD"? Anyone that "only likes Changeling: The Lost" is a dead giveaway for someone who should never be left alone around children. This has nothing to do with oWoD or people that play in oWoD, and has everything to do with CtL and people that are really, really, really into CtL and only CtL. The rest of oWoD might as well not exist to these people.

          Further, you're literally the only one that has mentioned CtL at this point, which suggests to me that you should take your meds, but also that you should not be left alone around children.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I
      V20 is what you're looking for
      don't listen to , he's a spammer

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Other dude in the thread had it right, play Requiem. Use this product to convert to the Masquerade clans

    https://www.storytellersvault.com/product/86202/Vampire-Translation-Guide?filters=0_0_45761_0_0_0_0

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dont go with requiem
    buy 3rd edition/revised edition corebook for feel
    but buy 4th edition/kickstarter edition for rules

    4th edition corbook is awesome in that 20 year of rules and clans are organized in a very efficient banner but it lacks the feel, the setting info , it is made for veterans, so get the revised 3rd ed book to compensate
    v5 had quite a lot of changes from bloodline era vampires

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play Hunter the Vigil instead imo

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    V5 has the infinite money of paradox behind in and 90% of media content.

    The other games are all dead, in most cases with good riddance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sadly V5 fucking sucks, so i'd rather be playing a dead game that'sgood rather than a game that's stil reciving support but that stinks to high heavens

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm looking at trying to run a vtm game for a group that's only done d&d. My game store only has 5th available. What exactly is so bad about it that I should go back to an older edition?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in an attempt to streamlined it, they removed or condensed too much stuff, it's like if you're playing with LEGO and one day they take away your lego and give you DUPLO, way too streamlined
      they also fucked up the setting, before V5 everything was very morally grey, as a proper world of darkness game should be, with overarching themes of struggling to keep your humanity now that you've become a monster Hispaniced up with generational "sins of the father" type of conflict, all of this gets sidelined in V5
      also in V5 it's crystal clear that the games is meant to be played with a very specific type of character in mind, this wasn't the case in older editions since they gave you a lot more tools to play with and be creative with

      also if you dislike ""leftist"" pandering in games, they inject some in V5

      play V20, it's way better

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do what I did, make a bastard combination consisting of:
    V20 base rules and setting
    V5 hunger, rouse check and advantage system
    V5 bane/compulsion as weakness, bane severity is 10-morality
    Morality is convictions so you can be an ass or on inhuman paths as long as it follows your own morality,
    Touchstones are really only to help increas morality

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