The backlash against Factorio's recent price increase has to be the most reddit outrage I have seen. I can get behind not agreeing with the philosophy of the developer's choice on increasing the price but going out of your way to review bomb a game that you aren't actively playing or even apart of it's community just to be apart of the heckin outrage im doing something onion onions but then you partake in even worst communities or practices its just disgusting and I think these people should be publicly executed as its not ironic and irony = funny but it isn't
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>boohoo they're mean to the dev of a game I like
Frick off israelite.
can you just explain the significance of his 1200 hours in black desert
homosexual op is trying to say the reviewer doesnt play despite having 96 hours on record just because it isnt the latest game he played.
No he's trying to say that people who dump months of time into Korean skinnerboxes shouldn't be preaching about prices
Not OP but b***hing about the Factorio devs being greedy while sinking well over a thousand hours into Black Desert Online which has ludicrously expensive microtransactions (for example cosmetics in the game cost anywhere from $30 to $60) is just ironic.
where does it say he bought any mtx? i have 1k hours in tf2 and never bought any crate homosexualry
if you've ever played BDO you would know the game is not playable for 1.2k hours without spending money. my brother is obsessed with that shitty fricking game.
>only thing that semi required is tent
>it cost 30$ (or even less now? on sale? don't remember)
if you've ever played BDO yourself instead of listening to your homosexual brother you would know
>BDO dick sucker on damage control
he baited me into playing that shitty ass fricking game only to find it really isn't playable without having "membership" or whatever they call it to sell shit on the auction house and actually make money because of ~~*taxes*~~, buying weight so you can grind in one spot for more than 5 minutes at a time without having to spend 20 minutes running to town and back, etc. etc. the "game" is a money siphon disguised as a game.
>play without paying anything
>since I don't farm 10 hours each day I don't even need tent
>enjoy my hundreds of hours of various awesome characters
>bough some extra cosmetic with in-game cash from auction
You do you anon but BDO is awesome.
>BUT YOU ARE NOT TOP 1%!!!
I don't care, really, gameplay is that good by me.
>gameplay
>run around in circles letting your pets auto loot
>run back to town
>go back and run around in circles
yeah nice "game"
Pets? Did they ever add area/auto loot without pets? That was the thing that lost me shortly after launch, when all farm parties were full pets or kick
kek let me guess, you've spent atleast $500 on that homosexual gacha mmo for incels
I have over 1000 days played on a character and I've spent no more than 300bucks on the game I think. And that is including the expensive preorder price 7-8 years ago.
That's less than I would spend playing some Western MMO with forced sub price and bi-yearly expansions that cost 60 bucks.
whataboutism
And? What are you gonna do, report him to the teacher?
How does that invalidate his criticism of factorio though?
Both sides are moronic, frick the greedy dev and frick the homosexuals b***hing about it
i agree both are homosexuals i just wanted to vent the reddit cringe before work
If your game has been released, it doesn't deserve to go up in price. It only deteriorates.
If it's on gog it's free
the stupidity of the backlash pales in comparison to stupidity of increasing the price of the product that you have already sold to majority of the people that wanted it. shit goes on sale so you can grab a bunch of users you'd not get otherwise. why would you ever in your life consider the opposite that could only ensure you will get no more sales ever?
Anon, people are born each day, they too would want to play games, for example Terraria was among Steam top dogs by revenue last year. Sure, some people won't buy his game now so instead of extra 1/6 he would see extra 1/7 increase in revenue. Solid move.
Because Factorio as a product has not lost value, so why would they sell it for less.
To sell to a more price sensitive market. This is how the media industries operate and you already know that. Consumers have an expectation that the price will go down and they're right to complain when it doesn't.
They don't have any right to complain.
everyone always has the right to complain about anything
success in a free market is based upon the interplay of what a producer asks for a product and what a consumer is willing to pay for a product
if they want to increase their price, that is their right. if some people like the new price less than the old one, that is also fine. if either side wants to make their opinions known, that is their right
>success in a free market is based upon the interplay of what a producer asks for a product and what a consumer is willing to pay for a product
Are you implaying Factorio isn't a commercially succesful game?
Because unless that is what you are saying, you don't have much of a point to stand on.
Also:
>everyone always has the right to complain about anything
You just want an excuse for being addicted to whinning and fake social media outrages, kid. Whinning on social platforms is your drug, and this whole discussion is just an excuse for you to indulge in pathological, addictive behavior.
People can't be banned from complaining, but that does not mean we should encourage moronic behavior.
I wasn't implying anything
I only entered this thread because I saw your post.
I'm not complaining about shit but it's silly to get up in arms about other people complaining about game pricing and it's nonsense to say they don't have the "right" to complain. What are they, acting entitled? They need to appreciate ALL game devs?
You're a fricking joke man.
>I only entered this thread because I saw your post.
So you are an idiot who literally does not even know what we are talking about, but DAMN IF THAT IS GOING TO STOP WHINNING ABOUT IT ANYWAY.
Case in point, child, case in point.
Clown.
Go suck more dev wiener and complain about how entitled "gamers" are
I've already stated that you literally don't know what this discussion is about, child, no reason to draw more attention to it.
You might please them more if you alternated between ball sucking and wiener sucking
Hell maybe they're into rimming too
You do realize that you are just digging your own hole further and further, right?
In the time you have spend writing these two posts, you could have since read what the discussion was about, and realize you are literally saying gibberish this whole time.
You LITERALLY don't know what I said, and in what context I said it.
But in a hilarious burst of irony, you end up completely proving my point here. Not that you would understand it, because again... you don't have a clue what my point was.
Every moment you spend typing is a moment a wiener isn't being pleasured
tut tut
I can only hope that self-awareness is something you won't develop in the future child, because realizing what you are doing right now in retrospect... that would probably be the end of it.
So yeah, keep living in blissfully complete ignorance. It's what keeps you alive.
Media has a one time massive cost and an ongoing minor cost. This is why DVDs can be sold for $5 mere months after launch. Most of the costs were made back in the cinema and through broadcast/streaming rights. DVD/BluRay sales are the end of the chain, usually long after all the costs have been recuperated. And shops don't want to sit on copies of Die Hard 4 for 3 years so they sell them for cheap to make room for new product.
Factorio is in active development so even if all their prior costs have been recuperated, their NEW costs haven't. And their NEW costs are higher than their old costs because of inflation.
Your argument boils down to, Factorio should be in a finished state and amortised in cost and they should be working on Factorio 2 instead. That's a valid argument.
But ongoing Factorio 1 should get cheaper over time is not valid. That's stupid. That's like saying Amazon should be able to pay you less over time because your job as warehouse picker should get cheaper to them over time.
>Factorio as a product has not lost value
But it has. It no longer a "new game", people have been playing it for many years and it is incredibly easy to simply pirate.
The market for Factorio is also largely saturated. If you want to play the autism logistics game genre, you likely already own it. Everyone who wants to buy it already paid for the game.
Supply is infinite and Demand is dropping through the floor, the value is droppinh. Sure, you can increase prices, but against a price sensitive market like today's, this will only push demand down further, increasing the disparity between value and price further. Also it makes you look bad.
These two factors may push people to pirate the game rather than buying.
But also
>paying for video games
>Demand is dropping through the floor
Nta but I think this is where you guys are getting held up, you can look at the number of recent reviews and review activity over time, this is a loose indicator of sales.
It's not slowing down they're making steady if not increased sales over time.
>demand is dropping thru teh floor gusy!!!!!~!12
poorgays, listen, just pirate it and shut the frick up, lmao
Your post only works if you assume Factorio was originally priced at the optimum point for profit. In reality, it's likely that it was priced below what people would actually pay for it, like a lot of video games. Inflation and depreciation are only relevant factors for goods that are near commodified.
honestly I figure their thought process is this: people know they never go on sale, but if those same people think that NOW is the last time they can buy it before going up to 35 bucks, they might buy it
I was considering buying it now too, but I know I wouldn't have the patience to do anything cool in it so I won't bother
It's by far the best game in it's genre and has infinite replayability. People who care about playing good games will buy it and they know it.
devs who refuse to put their games on sale because it "undervalues their labor" it or whatever are moronic in general.
You sell the game "on sale" for the price you actually want it to be and set its normal price higher than that so people who buy it on sale will think they're getting a good deal and you might catch a few people buying it at the higher price too.
>You sell the game "on sale" for the price you actually want it to be and set its normal price higher than that so people who buy it on sale will think they're getting a good deal and you might catch a few people buying it at the higher price too.
That just makes devs that do put their games on sale sound like scumbags.
>let's print trillions, give ourselves billions and have the cattle kill each other over 5 dollars
i fricking hate the fed so much it's unreal
This is an actual crime if you're caught rigging prices like that
>the stupidity of the backlash pales in comparison to stupidity of increasing the price of the product that you have already sold to majority of the people that wanted it. shit goes on sale so you can grab a bunch of users you'd not get otherwise. why would you ever in your life consider the opposite that could only ensure you will get no more sales ever?
/thread
Game still sells a frickton every year.
They're israelites
>Price increase
>Never has been on sale
>Never will be on sale
This is what you get when you let engineers make decisions that impact human beings. They just care about the mechanics and how to minmax shit instead of what a reasonable or 'humane' price would be. Yeah, sure, you're taking care of your own problems by adjusting for inflation, but you're not giving a shit about anything outside of that.
They make decisions that make sense for them, like said.
devs are being israelites, even $30 is a high price for what it is
I hope the dlc is $25 when it releases
People are fricking dumb.
The devs have assigned a value to their game. I'm not talking about monetary value here, I'm just talking about a GENERAL value. How much it's worth to them, how much they want to "trade" it for. In this case, like with all things, they are trading for money, like everyone does.
They stated, outright, they never want to put the game on sale, as in their view, this would be an unfair/not equal exchange. That's fine. No one is forcing them to do so. No one is forcing you to buy the game if you don't think that's a fair price (piracy notwithstanding).
That said, the VALUE of money changes, but how much the value the game, doesn't. As such, it makes perfect sense to make a minor price increase due to inflation is, IMO, a perfectly fair thing to do if I had the same mindset as the devs do with regards to how much they value their own product.
They should make a new game if they want more money instead, this was just made for attention.
>this was just made for attention
NTA but this game is almost 7 years old and never been on sale. The people that wanted it already bought it. I can't imagine someone has been sitting on the fence for near 7 years for a $30 game that will now get FOMO in the week long wait for it to go up a WHOLE FIVE DOLLARS and buy it.
Hmm I never looked at it that way. That makes a lot of sense. Is there any way I can just donate to the developers directly? They sound like really good guys and I would like to help them out.
>increase due to inflation is,
This is not a thing btw
inflation is a made up boogeyman used by israelites to increase prices, nothing less, nothing more
It doesn't matter if the israelites made it up or not. Prices of food going up leads to companies increasing their employees salaries which leads to the prices of their products going up too.
>Prices of food going up leads to companies increasing their employees salaries
lel
are you a goverment shill of biden or something?
i cant imagine a normal person saying something so dumb and out of touch of reality
wake up
>he thinks anyone can control the economy
you must be 18 to post here
>The devs have assigned a value to their game. I'm not talking about monetary value here, I'm just talking about a GENERAL value. How much it's worth to them, how much they want to "trade" it for.
That's the problem, they established the trading price and it was agreed upon by people who purchased it, now they've adjusted how much they want for it inb4 "muh inflation" and consumers have disagreed with it. Just as they have the right to adjust the pricing of the game, consumers have the right to complain about it.
What great logic, anon. I will now support other developers raising prices from $60 to $70.
thats cool and all I pirated the game, played for 10 minutes, uninstalled it and never looked back
They can price their game to whatever they want, I'm not buying it
also in terms of marketing and economics, what they're doing is actually moronic. You don't make more money just because you sell at a higher price, the actual amount of money you make can be maximized by lowering your price to gain more sales. In fact that's the entire point of sales: You temporarily test lower price points to see how well the product sells and if the ratio of the sales vs price generates more money faster for you than the higher price with fewer sales. Valve has a whole bunch of statistical analysis on this sort of thing which is why they offer to do automatic sales for game devs publishing on their platform - valve knows how to make more money better than devs do.
So basically the gist of what I'm saying here is that factorio devs are stubborn morons spiting themselves more than anything.
I mean, being a stubborn moron seems to be working pretty well for them, for better or for worse.
>seems to be working
>have to increase the price
>have to endure the backlash
I don't know what you think working means.
>we are doing GREAT
>BUT WE NEED MORE MONEY
lol
here's some more basic economics, growth is unsustainable. Doing this stupid pr stunt will net them short term gains, but when their dlc releases it won't sell at all.
look up quantitative easing moron
>when their dlc releases it won't sell at all
absolutely comical
It's true moron-kun. Most games in general have issues selling dlc after the intial sales, so much so there's normally a 50% drop off. In Diablo 3's case the drop off was incredibly steep due to their shitty business practices and fumbling of the game, only 25% iirc.
So logically, a stunt like this is very short term gain oriented, and will net them a small profit now, however their future sales will be impacted by the negative reviews and press on steam. It's going to be hard to sell 5$ dlc to this game to people who are now not satisfied with your business practices.
cool theory
>That comic
I thought I had completely removed that comic from my memory, but that image brought it back, so thanks for that.
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It makes *logical* sense, yes. But because the devs are interpersonally autistic (not in the actual sense), they don't have the interpersonal skills to understand how this fricks someone else over.
It's not about the actual value (as you see it), nor the monetary value. It's that they're focused only on mechanically increasing the price because it offsets inflation and the rest be damned. It's the 'rest be damned' part that gets people's jimmies rustled.
I don't blame them, this is how their brain works, obviously. The game is a literal expression of how their brain likes to interact with the world. They wouldn't have made the game otherwise. A writer couldn't have made this game for example.
I wish all games would get a price increase. Keep out the browns and poorgay barista redditors and watch gaming get back to being good.
>rip off Rimworld
>make it Epic Exclusive because Tim gives you a guaranteed payout
>release to Steam after exclusivity contract expired
>then raise the price later
good lord
you're thinking Satisfactory, a game made by danger hair shitskin macaco spics
Factorio was never exclusive to any kind of store
It's the dev's right to increase the price however he wants. As long as he agrees that it's my right to pirate the game. Which he does so we have no problem here. But that's besides the point because I've already bought the game after pirating it because it was just that fricking good.
>as long as the dev agrees it's my right to pirate
Luckily Factorio is super easy to pirate
They can increase the price all they want. I was never going to buy it.
it's so weird seeing people that never had an interest in buying a product that nobody is forcing them to buy, and that can easily be obtained for free, get mad about the price being adjusted for inflation
I don't get it, prices change constantly. Food, gas, clothes, books etc all change prices why are video game prices - which hasn't changed in decades - so sacrosanct?
New releases are regularly $70 now.
And they should be $80.13. 14% inflation increase btw
You described physical objects then compared them to a digital item.
Video games have never been cheaper to sell. It costs a negligible amount of money for every digital copy you sell, and only a handful of dollars worth of plastic and cds for physical copies.
Trannies are using this to mask the real fact why they're butthurt over the game, and it goes back to the dev telling leftoids to go frick themselves
Imagine defending israelites. Do you also give your grocery store a tip? Lol
Autistic people are overly loyal to their interests, in this case a 2D isometric factory building game.
Of course you will attempt any trick in the book to undermine valid criticism and those that are not standing for the israeliteism of the Factorio devs.
Many such cases!
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>"backlash"
>just a tiny blip
this is the same shit as the bob situation, literally nothing
Phew, i almost considered buying it. But now I'll pirate it and will call other people owning the game submissive paypigs.
I would happily pay full $60 for Factorio. I have gotten more hours out of Factorio than from 99% of AAA games.
I pirated it, downloaded mods for it and clocked around 200 hours into it before I finally put it away for a while only to come back after upgrading some of the mods for another 50 hours
I will never pay for it lmao, just like any other singleplayer game
https://gog-games.com/search/factorio
It was always $0 for me
Inflation and the current economy has forced my hand to pirate the game. I'll be sending screenshots to Wube software and thanking them for their hardwork.
cool plan, jamal
Absolutely baffling what reddit chooses to get outraged over. Either you like this kind of game and you bought it five years ago, or you don't and you will never buy it.
They are still asshurt over the Uncle Bob thing so they are using this to shit on the game, most of the redditor complaining about this overlap with lgbt, gamingcirclejerk and satisfactory(factorio rip off troony echo chamber game)
>They are still asshurt over the Uncle Bob thing
QRD?
>dev makes blog post that includes a link to some old programmer dude giving a lecture about coding
>some gay tells dev he should remove the link because the old dude said something mean about women at some point in his life
>dev tells gay to frick off
>gay and gay friends get butthurt and try to reviewbomb the game
>game actually ends up getting more positive reviews than usual
Never played factorio or watched any gameplay vids. What makes it good? Looking at its screenshots, it looks like a 0.99$ indie game.
>Looking at its screenshots, it looks like a 0.99$ indie game
You'd be correct. Its only popular because it was the "first" of its type that caught on.
Nowadays, there are far better games that offer much more content and refined gameplay for less price. Factorio is a relic, which is why its so bizarre that they would INCREASE the price rather than DECREASING it.
Egocentric devs is what it comes down to.
Factorio is king of the niche and to suggest otherwise is just laughable
Name one game you think is better
>there are far better games that offer much more content and refined gameplay for less price
Except not only there are factory building&management games better than Factorio, there are barely any factory building&management games at all. I bet you can't name even five.
actual brainlets detected
their trailer is a pretty good start.
It's the Crayola 96-Crayon Big Box to everyone else's 12-Crayon garbage.
Not only are you given more tools and QoL features to play around more easily, but the game and the engine are just made of a higher quality; I've been on the experimental/test branch of the game for six years now without issue.
It's a simple concept but the game incredibly well polished and optimized.
It's an problem solving optimization game
Ideally you don't look online for help on how to solve issues. It was sort of interesting to me but at the end of the day I didn't want to spend hours and hours designing a perfect resource extraction and production layout.
It's easily one of the best games of its type in existence.
Want to build, design, explore? Do you like logistics and efficiency? Want to nuke bugs?
For me, its making the perfect nuclear plant designs. I always make the game into Starship troopers with a factory behind it.
Factorio takes the simple magic of getting resources to build things into something great.
>everyone virtue-signalling that they're gonna pirate
>when there's no DRM and the devs don't consider pirated versions "lost sales"
>he thinks I pirate to make the devs mad and not just because I want free games
80iq anon sama...
>price increase
game prices should go down, not up, I hate this shitty trend that is being normalized, soon we won't have discounts anymore and everybody will do like nintendo and square enix and keep games priced at 60 bucks years after release
Digital goods don't deteriorate in quality, they are always worth exactly what the initial price was
then digital games shouldn't cost as much as physical games and yet here we are.
Not even EA or Activision both the israeliteiest of israelites raise the prices of their games that's been out for years.
People are right to hate on Factorio for doing this.
>SJWs seething
>Vatniks seething
>Poorgays seething
niche game dev optimizing niche
love how every cancellation attempt is immediately snuffed out by 1000-hour autists who were too absorbed by the game to leave a review
(t. 1000-hour autist without a review, not my time yet either LOL)
Maybe you should've considered not voting for politicians to inflate the monetary supply, sweaty. Eggs cost $8 per dozen now, 3x what they cost in 2019. Unless the dev tripled the price of the game, it's not a rip off, just price adjustment to keep up with inflation.
>"we will never increase the price, unless something unforseen happens"
>"Whoa guys something unforseen happened, it's called inflation!"
Only redditors would celebrate a price increase, truly the dumbest of npc..
There's like less than 200 negative reviews in this bomb, more people are talking about it on Ganker then are actually participating
Factorio is worth 60$ honestly
I don't get it. If you bought it fine if you didn't you probably weren't gonna buy it anyways.
>has to be the most reddit outrage I have seen
where do you think you are?
game prices should only go down, not up
review bombings is fine and only shills hate it
it costs nothing to do and pisses off the developer, literally no reason not to
What have they added to the game to justify the price increase? Muh inflation is not an excuse. It's a digital videogame. It has no scarecity. It doesn't appreciate in value.
Remember when review bombing wasn't "WAAAAAAH THESE PEOPLE AREN'T BLINDLY UPDOOTING MY GAME"? last of us 2 was the beginning of the end since they counted reviews that hated the waste of time story as review bombing
>Le heckin based and redpillederino dev made le transmissions mad
>me support dev price hikes
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN OTHER DEVS ARE RAISING PRICES TO $70 RIOT NOW FRICKEN JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWS
>morons actually supporting this
I really think the dev actually made these threads to vent
Seems so, who in their right mind would prefer spending more, let alone for something that has no way to return anything to you.
>review bombing is....LE BAD when its a dev I like
>review bombing games with women, minorities or trans is okay though
frick Ganker
The review "bombs" Factorio has easily weathered thusfar:
>woke-folk mad that the developers wrote a blogpost about their development strategies that referenced a person who has great ideas about computer software development but also happens to be controversial among lgbtqia+ people
>Russian people who were mad that the developers, some of whom are from and have family in Ukraine, announced support for Ukraine
>Poorgays that are too dumb for piracy and are mad that they can't afford eggs at the supermarket
Absolutely nothing about Factorio being a bad or buggy game, because that would be an outright lie.
It's just tiresome.
I wish kovarex would shut his mouth and leave social media, but his autism is a big part of why Factorio is such a good game.
people who were mad that the developers, some of whom are from and have family in Ukraine, announced support for Ukraine
Fricking lie. Those homosexuals raised the price to 10000₽ (it's around 140-150$) for russian steam because of "muh war, muh politics"
How the frick does this "get back" at the Russian government? This is an example of limp-dick waving.
russian government can't afford the game and does not know how to pirate
>How the frick does this "get back" at the Russian government?
It doesn't. It doesn't even get back at the hypothetical Russian Steam-using vatnik because they can't buy shit on Steam directly in the first place, they switch to Turkish locale to do so. They also tried to walk this back as a technical error while one of their ukro devs spilled the beans that it was very much intentional.
>How the frick does this "get back" at the Russian government?
It's not supposed to. It was a technical error, literally a typo. It was fixed within 12 hours with an explanation and apology, and anyone who would be affected by it being entitled to reinburstment - not that anyone was to my knowledge.
It's just that Ruskies really are special snowflake children who freaked out about it, and so is Ganker so they clung to it as well.
>accurate 10k price tag
>people became mad and review bombing
>IT'S JUST A TYPO, BELIVE US1!
Have you ever realized how much of a desperate self-victimizing drama-seeking delusional prostitutes you kids have become? You literally make RestEra look sensible, it's fricking hilarious.
Pro-tip: the error was pushing the zero more times than intended.
And another pro-tip: Wube isn't known for mincing words or backing down. There used to be time when people here respected that, before you all became a fricking ResetEra except for Ruskies instead of homosexuals, crying and pissing yourself and demanding cancelation because your vulnerable little ruskie wards are being threatended.
If this was a statement about Russia, they would SAY SO. They would not do it silently. They made all of their other statements clear before and after. Including their stances on Ukraine. Which itself triggered a bunch of you snowflakes in itself, and they absolutely did not back down on that either.
ok boomer.
>they would SAY SO
They did.
>They did.
You are right.
They clearly and explicitly denounced the invasion of Ukraine, and expressed their support for the country.
They also did say that the literally 12 hour long pricing mess was a simple technical error, that had nothing to do with their stances on the crisis.
So... what is your fricking moronic butthurt /misc/tard point again? What are you crying so hard about, kiddie? Where did they touch you?
>virtue signalling israelitekraine globohomosexual supporter
>shows he doesn't care about customers and fricks with Russian citizens just to get back at the evil Putler
Good dev.
>virtue signalling
>"Please stop bombing the daycare centers of our developers' families."
...k
completely ineffective just-for-show displays of protest is virtue signalling, yes
NTA but I'm pretty sure their ukrainian dev appreciates the support, you on the other hand are doing precisely what you're complaining about ("completely ineffective just-for-show displays of protest")
>you on the other hand are doing precisely what you're complaining about
how so?
Are mutts unable to read what's between two parenthesis? Is it the contents of the parenthesis you don't understand despite it being written by yourself?
Some phone browsers interpret parentheses as code blocks and hide their contents
i guess me not quoting your entire post confused you so let me try again. it's ok context is hard.
how am i doing "precisely what you're complaining about", by which i mean "completely ineffective just-for-show displays of protest".
please explain how am i doing this, ok?
are you suggesting that posting on an anonymous imageboard is meant to be a virtue signalling display that makes people think i'm a good guy?
yes
same as the rest of you poorgays whining about this price correction
your signal has been noted
you are a paragon of virtue
good luck with the job hunt
>poorgays whining about this price correction
>when it's people who already own the game complaining
Ok rabbi.
>Poorgays that are too dumb for piracy
Except it's people who already own the game?
>"I'm a mouthbreathing fricking moron"
t. (You)
t. redditor defending the price on a digital fricking good from years ago being raised due to "muh inflation" lol. I hope you get a cut
>do job for company for years
>inflation goes up
>go to boss to say I need backpay relative to inflation since the value of my work having gone up and my purchasing power has gone down due to inflation
>get fired
What did I do wrong anons?
Living in a third world shithole
Being anti-semite is a crime. Serves you right.
Did they update anything? Do they add content regularly to the game?
If not then why increase the price?
Good thing I have more money in my pocket due to inflation, therefore more money to spend on CD keys 🙂
Its funny that this board si full of morons buying shitty AAA games with obvious dopamine baits, spending 40-60$ on it and then double of it on dlc and "updates"
...but game with same price for years, having nonstop development, full mod support, no shitty paid dlc cosmetics and incoming full old-school type expansion while saying frick you to publishers trying to buy them out to turn it into another corporate shit is way too much
how many games you bought for 40$+ and you have less than 100hr in it
because i have like 3k in factorio and i don't think its anywhere big compared to shitton of other people
Game should be really way up higher in price than 20-25$
>full mod support
Downplaying this a bit, are we? Devs regularly go in to fix edge-case scenarios that only occur when two different third-party mods aren't working right with each other. Just insane. You can clearly tell that some of the people who work there clock out of work on Factorio just to go home and fire up Factorio w/mods to play for fun.
I got this game for super cheap early access looks at these goobers
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.
-Publilius Syrus, first century B.C.
>I think these people should be publicly executed
>rating down a game you already own because of a price increase that doesn't cost you anything
I don't understand
Activism!
>ignoring this israelite practice that can become the norm because all devs are greedy frickers
If I already own the game it doesn't mean I recommend it to others.
Oh, I don't review games since it doesn't matter to me if anyone else buys it or not
Good cuck
>entire point of reviews is for other people to read them and decide whether to purchase the game or not
So you're just admitting to being moronic because???
>its not a problem if it doesn't personally effect me right now right this instant
genuine cave man brain
>oh no my fav dev is receiving negative reviews for raising the price
They are pointing out the poor value. It's reasonable to criticize things based on the value proposition so that people can make better informed decisions. Cry me a river.
>poor value
>1000+ hours with no sign of stopping and an expansion in development
k
>>1,000+ hours
Where'd you get this figure? Yeah, it is a poor value. I doubt there is a valid reason to increase the cost of the base game.
Mean while people paying 1000s on jpegs in a tower defence anime game because it's free
Don't care didn't read your post. Still pirating the DLC and leaving a negative review.
Cope and seethe OP.
Please don't use my wife for shitposting.
The only reason she didn't get a BF already is because she had that anxiety disorder around people. Do you notice she getting better and better at dealing with others anon? Its just a matter of time now.
>I want more money but I don't want to work for it
Why doesn't he release a new game?
review bombing greedy devs is based. pirating their games is even baseder.
5 dollars lol
i'd pay 60 for factorio since it's a quality game
and i'm gonna buy the expansion for me and my group as soon as it releases
I'm gonna pirate the expansion and seed as soon as it releases.
that doesn't affect me or the devs
hope the expansion is good and we both enjoy it
NOOOOOOOOOOO I PIRATE YOU MAD! BE MAAAD NOOOOOOOOOO
Factorio is a mediocre game propped up by the moddng community who does it for free. It's truly the Skyrim of engineering games.
>Factorio is a mediocre game propped up by the moddng community who does it for free. It's truly the Skyrim of engineering games.
You are confusing it with rimworld
Yeah no. People claiming the game has 1000s of hours of content are not playing vanilla.
You don't need mods to make a megabase.
I'm not proud about it, but you're wrong. You underestimate my autism. Please think for a moment about how fixated neurodivergent can become about an idea like "playing the game as intended" and peruse this thread to see how stubborn people can be. This is a teachable moment. Again, I am not proud.
I think people care too much about videogame prices.
if you can't afford it, just pirate it
that's what i do
the preorder gays can carry the weight for me while i get my shit together
$30.00 (none of this $29.99 marketing bullshit) in today's currency is $37.58
But because numbers must end in '0' or '5', the price is now $35.00
We'll be patient while your normie brains catch up.
>old product has the same value as 6 years ago
>the product does not produce any new costs
>has most likely already broke even with its costs years ago
cant really follow you m8
If you want more money, make more game?
so many homosexuals shilling for the price increase its not even funny
Just good goys being good goys, defending their masters.
You guys know that the devs will stick to their guns right? They saw how it works with the other times they got review bombed for something controversial.
It sucks that I was never planning on buying this game either way, because now I can't go out of my way and boycott them.
He's going to crank the price up to $35 and then the game will go on sale for the first time ever for $5 off.
Am I supposed to recognize whatever website this screenshot is from?
Is it R#ddit or something?
>rightoids like unregulated profit-driven capitalist economy until it affects them in an obvious way instead of being constant not-even-that-subtle price increases on every day items and wage stagnation
Simp
>Some poor shmuck getting drafted to go die in the mud outside Mariupol saw the developer of their favorite game saying "Frick you, specifically" before turning off the computer for the last time.
because the product is already launched and not getting any significant updates if they're making separate for sale dlc. They don't have a real justification for the price increase, which many people means they should frick themselves. If it were something they actually had to produce constantly they'd have legitimate reasons for increasing the price, this is just a cashgrab. Most people don't like cashgrabs.
>not getting any significant updates
incorrect
>cashgrab
please leave your normie doublethink at the door
this is a price correction without a hidden motive:
(you're actually getting the game for $2.58 cheaper than it should be)
we've been over this
lurk more
irrelevant, old game is old and devalued. they're not producing significant useful updates to allow them a price increase. It doesn't matter what they think their value is or if they think inflation is unfair the market will judge them.
It's the king of the genre. The hell you talking about "old and devalued." Stop being wrong.
Are you doing this on purpose?
king of the genre, meaningless drivel. The game is old, devalued. That's all that matters.
keep saying it
I will, game had it's launch hype and now has no hype. It's got no chance of finding more audience at it's current and new price.
>old
>devalued
this is exactly what the israelite wants people to believe. it's how they got you to pay $70 for new AAA movieslop that will never be as good as 2D games from the 90s
The same people selling SNES games for over 1k? Hmm, which is it.
>this is exactly what the israelite wants people to believe. it's how they got you to pay $70 for new AAA movieslop that will never be as good as 2D games from the 90s
trying to pretend that games do not get old and devalued is just as bad as them pretending anything that came out after 2010 has been worth money. Stop with the lies.
you're so brave for saying this
Thank you, I feel so validated by the opinion of some dumb jackass on the internet.
says who?
says time. Most sales will initially be after launch, you never recapture the launch window opportunity because people know what you're about afterwards. If you're trying to treat this as some sort of unique product it's not. Other companies just don't see a market and from looking at steamcharts for this game they're right.
You realize you're admitting its the dominant game in its niche right?
>You realize you're admitting its the dominant game in its niche right?
king of a pile of shit still has to live in the pile of shit.
I mean if living in shit gets me millions of dollars....
Never heard from it until now
>calling out contrived price increase is reddit
hello rabbi
Isn't this the dev who cried shitfits over pirates? Frick em
It isn't, but ok
I bought this game for $20 and still thought it was a rip off. There isn't really anything to it unless you mod it.
Why didn't you try the free demo first?
The game was in early access and I assumed they would add more to do besides launch a rocket. They did not. The demo has nothing to do with them not finishing the game.
I bought a cast iron skillet for $20 and it's kind of a rip off. There isn't really anything to it unless you cook food.
(even neglecting the base game entirely, you're moronic)
I don't know what you're on about. A fricking mod has to actually finish the game for them.
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/space-exploration
They spent the entirety of early access doing basically nothing but tweaking a few things that don't even matter. I'm going to assume their $30 expansion is just going to rip off this mod.
But you don't get it, the poor devs need more money, doesn't matter if the modders don't get anything while doing all the work, the devs!
>doesn't matter if the modders don't get anything while doing all the work
SE dev has a patreon and is probably getting a 5-10k from it, in the least
Rip off? Wube hired Earendel, lmao
But to your point, just because YOU don't think Start->Rocket is enough, despite how long it might take players to complete that goal the first time, how long it might take them to complete it subsequent times to complete achievements, and how long a few playthroughs in multiplayer might take...
Go be entitled elsewhere, please.
Imagine thinking that this is a good ending to a video game.
>he needs bing bing wahoo celebrations and animations
just start a new game
or continue into megabase territory where you set your own goal like an adult
(or make a mod that recreates the old-school solitaire win animation with all the buildings and shit you've placed, lmao, can you imagine? hilarious)
>achievements
I'll make sure to add stupidly elaborate conditions to my game, so morons like you treat it as content.
A reminder that there is barely any "backlash", just a small group of loud dorks making angry posts and reviewbombing. OP is trying to stir the pot for guaranteed replies.
Inflation has increase the price of a positive review from me so I will be forced to make a negative one.
heckin upvote, what a clever reply
the whole debacle about factorio price increase is moronic. there's only one opinion to have.
>factorio is an extremely well made game, so a price increase is somewhat understandable
however
>i don't like paying more, and would ideally like to pay less and as little as possible.
and that's it. if you have any other take on that, you're a mongloid
>increasing the price of something that is unlimited and already done
if it's unlimited, why do game devs and publishers charge more than a dollar for games? i mean, if it's unlimited they'll get unlimited dollars?
Yes, why? I mean, they could, but they settled on a price that is understandable most of the time, when they released it.
why do they change it, then? a lot of games have reduced price over time, why do they do that? if the price has been set, why change it?
This anon has never lived a single day in the real world.
Lmao it's $5 and it's not some israelite corporation like EA. Get over it poorgays
>it's not some israelite corporation
>literally supports israelitekraine
???
If it's just $5, why are they asking for more, it's just 5, why do they need 5 more for?
That didn't answer anything, it's JUST 5 bucks, come on, why do they need 5 more bucks? Are they that greedy?
If he gets away with it the rest will follow
>noooo you can't just play a mmorpg!
stop sucking the devs wiener so much
WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT THE PEOPLE ON REDDIT THINK?
>digital product key
>UHHH INFLATION?
I'm honestly ambivalent towards Factorio but I fricking hate it's fans so I'm glad there's a backlash.
Why do people care anyway, Factorio was always a dogshit game
Greed deserves to be punished.
I have 1500 hours in Factorio.
At $30, that comes out to 2 cents per hour.
At $35, that comes out to 2.33 cents per hour.
The ratio of dollars to autism is insanely high in Factorio and no one should complain about an extra $5. People with autism will pay any price for Factorio, and people without autism won't buy it.
I launched my first rocket in 40 hours, everything else is irrelevant unless you actually have autism.
Are MMORPGs also good because they bait people into wasting good portions of their life on them?
Yes, and infinitely a better value, thousands of fun over 0 dollars spent, and you know that when the limit of x tends to 0, 1/x tends to infinity
so you're fricking moronic what's your point exactly?
it was on sale for 20€ for several years though
Why would anybody care about the price of an indie game increasing? If you don't want to pay then just pirate it. It's not like there is any DRM and your ISP isn't going to send you a letter because you illegally downloaded an indie game.
Why? Because everyone will try to do the same for the same moronic "reason".
lol
you're a real hero
thank you for your service
lmao
Pirate those games too, (almost) all games are free Anon, there is no need to be upset.
and? israelite devs learn a lesson
pirated games are not lost sales
But the price of a game is irrelevant to a person who pirates it so it doesn't matter if the dev raises the price. The only people who lose are homosexuals who pay for indieshit.
People who pay $35.00 for Factorio aren't "losers."
I mean, they are "losers," but like the other definition. You know. Like the kind like us, who have spent 1000+ hours enjoying Factorio. They'll probably get their money's worth.
factorio is an anxiety simulator with very unaesthetic graphics
literal autist bait skinbox and nothing more
Why? Greedy morons deserve to get reviewbombed
Post YFW you pirated Factorio instead of buying it.
>6 year old game
>Stipulate repeatedly it will never go on sale
>Increase the price because inflation
>Still refuse to put it on sale
They're greedy, simple as. That said, I don't care, I bought the game years ago, got my money's worth of entertainment and haven't touched it since. They are, however, being rightfully called out on bullshit. Old games don't increase in price, ever, this is literally the first time this has happened in the industry's history, and it sets a precedent if consumers take it lying down. It tells publishers that not only do they not have to put games on sale, but they can in fact adjust for inflation whenever the frick they want.
If that starts happening from now on, we have Factorio to blame. Whatever though, another argument in favour of pirating.
>Old games don't increase in price, ever, this is literally the first time this has happened in the industry's history
lol
Remakes and remasters don't count. If that isn't what you're trying to refer to, point to a single example of this happening before now. I'll wait.
I've seen this happen a ton of times. Often there's an excuse from the dev like "I just added a bunch of new shit so I'm upping the price to reflect this".
Beat Saber put the price up from 20 to 30 bucks a few years back, for example.
Are the Factorio devs adding anything along with the increased price? No.
Yes but they are charging for it, lol greedy fricks
It probably would have sold better if they said "Hey, we're increasing the price to reflect all the work we've put into it since X"
Or, give the content away for their original buyers, add it to the game and increase the price for new buyers.
A lot of games do it, factorio is just high profile enough to be in the public eye.
https://www.pcgamer.com/minecraft-prices-are-going-up-in-some-regions/
Price corrections happen.
explain to me how the game costing more benefits you as a consumer
Are you guys at least getting a cut from all this viral marketing? There is no non-israeli explanation I would ever accept for a game to see a price increase after seven years. This is worse than fricking horse armor DLC. I understand people who play Zachrtronic games are all turboautists, but imagine defending such a greedy israelite practice? It's unconscionable, but yet there are a seemingly large number of """totally organic""" 4chin users who are 100% okay with it. Even some Snoytrannies complained when they arbitrarily decided raise the price of games to $70, but this is even worse since it's retroactive.
You are attributing greed to autistic attention to detail. Stop.
It's one of those cases where it's something discord trannies like, whom also are Ganker pass users, they love spamming threads with their moronic ideas.
>retroactive
not what that word means
it's a fricking 5 dollars increase, for a game you already own. Are 5 dollars really going to make a difference in this case?
They even announced it beforehand so what's the big deal. Just pirate it or buy on some keysites if you really want to save such petty cash
If it's just 5 dollars, why do they need more?
Samegayging this hard
Only the second two, because people don't fricking read the thread before chiming in with the same moronic idea other morons have had.
Nah, you replied instantly, this
Is you and this
Is you as well, bet you have way more posts in this thread sucking the dev's wiener
Why would I lie?
It must be exhausting living in constant suspicion of others doing you wrong.
Is your mind already fabricating some ridiculous alternative explanation, like me editing the (You) out of the appropriate spots?
If so, I guess I have nothing I can say other than "You did a nice job formatting this post such that there was space for me to edit the (You) out so that in the future you could accuse me of editing the (You) out of your post. Well played."
So, you are just combing the thread to reply to those kind of posts, that's even worse LMAO
I know.
>inflation sucks and we know it's harder for you guys to buy groceries, fuel and other necessities so to help we are raising the price of our game
they want to siphon more money to israelitelensky and everyone here knows it
Not interested in autism-centric games.
Who the frick cares?
i'm sure the dev will be fine crying into his piles of money, he's a big boy and doesn't need you defending his honor online
Might as well be him
I'm outraged they ought to apologize!
I'd expect when the inevitable financial crash comes, they'll lower the price back down to "adjust for recession", right?
Do you think "recession" is the opposite of "inflation"?
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T RAISE THE PRICES ON YOUR OWN PRODUCT
Reminder that THIS is what people's backlash amounts to. Even less drama than when the trannies seethed at Factorio.
You know why? Because the devs fully understand that they're sitting on a golden game. And they KNOW that you KNOW in the back of people's head Factorio is still worth 35 bucks it's just that good. A great product remains a great product and that's what the free market will eventually place value on.
The only people who play Factorio are autistic, or an engineer, with significant overlap. Literally nobody else can even wrap their head around what they're supposed to do.
>Factorio is still worth 35 bucks it's just that good.
No it isn't. I can play Satisfactory or Dyson Sphere project or any number of pseudo-clones now.
Satisfactory can barely hold a candle to DSP let alone Factorio lmao.
There's a reason this is still the king of this niche besides Minecraft autismo mods.
Its literally just a marketing ploy. Ive been seeing these threads CONSTANTLY and haven't cared to comment cause Idgaf about this game but its insanely obvious.
>"just letting you know, "blank" is gonna get more expensive!"
>everyone flocks to buy thing before price increase thinking that they're being smart
Oldest fricking trick in the book. You nigs are moronic to debate it and think think theres any other reason.
troony communist review bombers eating crow right now. Feels good
All of this over $35? Get a job
This
>Nooooo I have to pay five extra bucks!
>more morons ignoring the fact it's people who own it complaining
Get a fricking brain.
moron.
That's what you are, yes.
Is that supposed to make it better? That makes it even more moronic
>you can't criticize the decisions of devs because... you just can't okay?
Ok rabbi.
You can, but it should be for a valid reason or else reviews become meaningless
>increasing the price of a game right before adding paid DLC to garner attention
>not a valid reason
How well does Factorio play on Steam Deck in terms of performance and controls? I can't play games like this on desktop; I'll only pick it up if I can play it in small bursts throughout the day to keep my mind sharp while taking breaks from work due to ADHD distraction.
>How well does Factorio play on Steam Deck in terms of performance and controls?
Factorios is an INSANELY well optimized game, it runs on the worst tosters I've ever seen so unless you plan to build mega-factories, run some of the really badly optimized mods (like AAIndustry) or otherwise push it, I'm pretty confident it should run well.
The controls on the other hand - I can't fricking see how you would comfortably play Factorio on anything but mouse and keyboard. Call me spoiled but in a game like this, control just seems insanely clunky and lacking all the convenience features.
They're optimizing the game for the switch, it'll run on the deck. For controls I'm not sure how they work, but with the deck you do have the touch pads and touch screen.
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-368
Performance is very good. Not "huge megabase" levels of good because you can quite literally build until you reach the limit no matter what PC you have, but the game will run at 60FPS/60UPS effortlessly for any "normal" base you can imagine, even a large one.
There's also an official binding for the game available on the Deck, so the devs have put in some effort to adapt the controls at the very least. I have personally not played it on my Deck beyond running around to see what it's like so I haven't reached any 'proficiency' with the controls, but it's not like its a twitch shooter where you need split-second perfect precision so I imagine there would be a learning curve for the controls at first and after that you'd be fine, just a matter of getting used to a control setup that isn't like something you've used before. Also the game released on Switch relatively recently and the devs said they're working to add official controller support to the game itself on PC as well, but I don't think that patch is out yet.
Nothing as far as I know, though you can also buy it DRM-free from Wube directly. In fact I'm pretty sure you get the DRM-free version from them directly no matter where you buy.
(you)
>attempt to review bomb Factorio
>it's pic related
lol
whats wrong with the gog version of factorio?
every time someone mentions it they act like its cursed.
Nothing, it's fine if that's your ecosystem
You can get it through Wube directly, as well
It's one thing to believe the devs are in their right to do this, but to actually celebrate the price increase is moronic.
>Commies btfo
Literal brain rot
>people who have steam libraries full of games they will never play that they only bought because they were on sale complain that a different game they will never play doesn't go on sale
If you haven't bought it by now you were literally never going to buy it
>mfw a satisfactoid tries latching on to dsp to try and insult based factorio
pathetic. you will NEVER be a respected game
you can tell when someone is poor, cuz they becoming irrationality angry over money
I don't care about him increasing the price because I don't care about the game. I'm just glad Ganker is finally turning against this game and the dev. He was always a moron and no, a single reddit post where he's not submitting to trannies doesn't make him based. He's just as much of a scum as every other indie developer.
Name one dev that's isn't a scumbag.
All of them are. If they weren't, they'd give their game away for free because they made it out of passion for the medium, rather than make money like a greedy israelite.
This. Some of the best games I played were free, and the better ones free as in freedom (open source.) Modders who charge or beg for donations are scum too.
You guys do know that you can just pirate the game right? The devs literally tell you to do that if you cant afford it.
They made it DRM-free for that very reason.
Why is Ganker so full of bootlickers since 2016?
Hiroyuki buying the site made it acceptable to literally shill if you pay to.
damaged dopamine receptors thanks to 2007
I remember that, and I remember feeling as though there was suddenly a shift in how it felt to use the internet, if only I'd known how bad things would get. Particularly with facebook, everyone started talking about it and integrating it with their lives.
>everyone started talking about facebook the year it was founded
They talked about it in a way they never talked about myspace is what I mean.
https://gog-games.com/game/factorio
I've never played this game and am pretty sure I won't like it but I'm going to buy it on Friday when I get paid just to piss off all the homosexuals
>I just wasted my money on this game, how does that make you feel Lil Donnie?
>no disposable income?
It's already working. Damn it must suck being a poorgay lmao
you sound like the kind of moron who buys apple products
FRICKING have a nice day U israelite SHILL
did you see my post from 10 mins ago? no worries i will highlight it again just so you are aware no need to thank me.
I don't defend israelite practices regardless of how much I like a game or developer. Go frick yourself OP.
Consumers are right to be pissed.
It's anti consumer behavior, if I cared about the genre or the game I would pirate based on how far the dev has gone to israelite the consumer.
Honestly, does the dev team even plan to release any new games? Why come into the industry make a successful title and then not try to iterate on the ideas presented? Seems like a lazy developer with israeli tendencies wants to sit on a cash cow and ride out the sales until he is forced to work again.
So the price increased by 14%. Has anything been added to the game to increase the value by 14%? 14 is generous since there are now competing games that devalue it
So are they gonna increase the price again in a year or two once inflation hits and our money turns into toilet paper?
Yes, also your income won't be increased to negate inflation.
The dev is going to increase the price of the game regularly until it's the price of a AAA game.
Copies of Factorio will just become the new gold standard as its value is more stable than regular currency.
How can inflation be real if wages haven't increased? Where is all the money going?
>How can inflation be real if wages haven't increased?
They have though.
>likely have more price increases through out the following years
>likely
theyre making shit up in their minds already, imagining some slippery slope boogeyman of constant price increases. "he did it once so hes likely to do it again multiple times more." frick off
if you dont like the price, pirate the game, the devs themselves have said they would rather have you pirate the game than buy it off some reseller just so you can get it slightly cheaper. the game is DRM free, i hope i dont have to tell you how brain dead easy it is to pirate this game
>he did it once so hes likely to do it again multiple times more
Yes.
https://old.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/10gwmb8/factorio_next_week_on_thursday_26th_january_2023/j589syi/
>I believe that all games should adjust for inflation, and it should have started much sooner, I wish it to become a norm.
The dev is a israelite.
>here at Ganker we're not goyslop consumers like reddit
>devs want to increase the price of a game? yasss buy more from them it's so wholesome
>increasing price of the game after it released
israelitery.
>but it makes sense because of inflation
If it actually mattered that much he would have just went with the $70 piss take and be done with it. The game is certainly worth more as a product than most million dollar budget AAA garbage, so why not? Just take getting shat on for being a stupid homosexual who cares more about bottom lines instead of consumer standards, and get over it. The reviews will iron themselves out for "off-topic activity".