THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM

>The most celebrated, influential and renowned Western RPG ever made

>Ganker does even consider it to be an RPG

Explain yourselves.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're nitpicky retards who actively ignore the fact that 99% of the other games in the RPG genre is the same shit or worse, except they don't come with extensive mod support to fix the glaring issues like Skyrim does

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RPG means you create a character with a certain backstory and personality, then the game tailors your experience based on the character you created. For example, you make a neutral evil thief character, and that gives you unique options in certain quests, because you're a cunt thief you can backstab and fuck a lot of people over for your own benefit. But you will also miss out on certain content like the Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild because it doesn't make sense for someone who specializes in burglary and stealth to join those guilds. Your dialogue options will be different compared to something like a lawful good character, and the main quest of the story will play out differently, there will be some reason to do it for your own gain rather than muh gotta save da world.
    Skyrim doesn't give you any of this, you are the legendary dragonborn who will save the world from Alduin no matter what, you can become head of every guild even if you don't have the skills necessary to qualify, your only dialogue options are asking questions and making minor choices like whether you want Camilla Valerius to fuck Sven, Faendal, or yourself, you can either the Stormcloaks or Imperials regardless of what race you are and what your character has done in the past. What's that? You're a high elf mage who mercilessly slaughtered the entire village of Riverwood for no reason? No problem bro, past is past, welcome to the Stormcloaks.
    Skyrim is an open world action game more so than it is an RPG.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes if you play the role as your character as the Dragonborn etc.

      It doesn't have as IN-DEPTH deep roleplaying as some games do but it passes as an action/adventure/RPG.

      This is a really good take.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So is it an RPG or no? Give me a yes or no answer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dismiss 90% of rpgs

      nice

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's really only a handful of RPGs that are worth playing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >RPG means you create a character with a certain backstory and personality, then the game tailors your experience based on the character you created.
      It doesn't, you are just trying to merge the definition from tabletop rpg and computer rpg.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Based Opium Enjoyer

        Vidya RPGs originated directly from tabletop RPGs. The concept of hit points, skills, status effects etc were all invented by tabletop game designers such as Gary Gygax. Early vidya RPGs tried to emulate the tabletop experience which is why even up to the early 2000s you had games like Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Dungeon Siege, KOTOR, etc.

        Once the golden formula of success in the video game world was discovered (simplicity and action focus), virtually all games have primarily focused on that.

        Also another reason is RPGs blow these days is because of fully voiced everything. All dialogue has to be agreed upon in advance and there's only so much budget devoted to hiring voice actors.

        We need to return to a BG1/2 style voice system where only the first greeting is voiced and the rest is simply read. This will allow at least some voice, but also allow for there to be greater depth in the dialogue.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >RPG means you create a character with a certain backstory and personality

      name one game in which you can choose your backstory in a meaninful way and also allows you to show a different personality by choice.

      Come on i'll wait.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just make your choices and justify them as you want. If you're playing a sneaky thief just don't do the mage college. If you think an altmer wouldn't join the stormcloaks, don't join them as an altmer.

      All your problems can be resolved by just role-playing yourself in a way that is cohesive with the values of your characters. Seems like you wants the game to handhold you

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's an RPG, but a very streamlined one, to the point the roleplaying is becoming almost removed from the game mechanic and up to the player.
    So while you can roleplay in skyrim, the game often fails to support it in a more glaring way than it's predecessors.
    It's still an RPG, but it's much less of an RPG than what it should have been.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    doesn't*

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dovahkiin turns 11 this year. Feel old yet? By the time the next elder scrolls releases he will probably have finished high school.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No role playing
    Not an rpg
    Cool amusement park though

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if not for radiant quests I would actually consider skyrim to be a fairly good game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >flin
      What a whore

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't have to make any meaningful decisions. Quests don't even allow you to fail, the game constantly sucks your dick the moment you enter Whiterun and the dragonporn is a natural at anything he does. In previous Elder Scrolls you had to decide on what type of character you want to play. Are you good at magic or a fighter or thief? You couldn't switch your star sign randomly, in Daggerfall you even got neat little backstories. Yes this is not normie friendly, but this is how an RPG works.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Name your favorite RPGs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Classic: Realms of Arkania trilogy
        New: The Pathfinders and Kingdom Come Deliverance were excellent

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >New: The Pathfinders and Kingdom Come Deliverance were excellent
          nta but lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tranime
            Stick to Skyrim, chud.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              enjoy your braindead normalgay power fantasies for weak men raised by single mothers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yikes. Opinion safely and immediately discarded.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why? They're are actual RPG's.

            enjoy your braindead normalgay power fantasies for weak men raised by single mothers

            >Skyrim
            >Not the textbook definition of normie power fantasy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              dude I dont give a shit about skyrim, I just accept it for what it is.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >no age of decadence, no expeditions, no underrail, no knights of the chalice, no grimwah, no grimrock
          you are legit just as bad as the people glorifying skyrim

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The expedition games and age of decadence are good RPG's for sure, just not my favourite.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >just not my favourite
              yeah because they aren't moronic power trip simulators

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Underrail
                >isn't a moronic power trip simulator
                Sir, you are a fucking retard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >just not my favourite
              Cause you're clueless about good RPGs.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is pretty rich coming from a skyrimchud.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too plain to be a proper RPG, it's more of an action adventure game with RPG elements

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think when other genres and story elements take precedent over the story and the character the game forced YOU (the player) to come up with it stops being a "role playing" game and becomes a game in whatever genre it more accurately represents with systems akin to those in tabletop roleplaying games.

    For example:
    I play the incredibly long and bad introduction to skyrim. I make a green bro and I decide his story is that he's an illiterate mongoloid with minimal stats in everything except magic (loosely inspired by orks in warhammer). I then play the game and realize that MY ROLE, THE ROLE I DECIDED FOR MY CHARACTER, is not the TRUE story. The game actively wants you (the player) to be DRAGONBORN ruler of such and such powerful being from god-knows-where or whatever the fuck, BUT I (THE FUCKING PLAYER) DECIDED THAT I WANT TO PLAY AS AN UNINTELLIGENT NEARLY MUTE GREEN bro WITH MAGIC POWERS.
    See the issue? My dunce of a man is not special or the chosen one or anything of the sort, he's a green retard. The game wont let my character exist the way I want him to.

    While the systems in place are akin to tabletops of olden days, the way in which your characters exist in the world are completely different and the way the game plays is mediocre in comparison to your imagination and the freedom of choice in an actual tabletop rpg.
    Normally this would be fine in an RPG where you don't get to make your own character and is only a game to serve the purpose of a specific story the developers wanted to tell with the specific game mechanics the developers wanted to use (like every fucking JRPG ever), BUT IN CRPGS AND GAMES INFLUENCED BY THEM ALL OF THAT IS THROWN DOWN THE DRAIN, they give you this illusion of choice when it's never actually giving you any real fucking options.
    You never get to be the green magic bro who is mentally retarded and has fun adventures because they're too busy forcing you into a role with the promise of creative freedom.
    1/???

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AT LEAST JRPGS LET ME BE THE CHARACTER THEY CHOSE FOR ME TO PLAY. In games like skyrim and fallout 3/NV/4 you will always be playing THEIR set up for this world. You can't just choose a place to exist from and make your own character, you are the man/woman that got shot in the head and survived, you are the Dragonborn, you are the vault dweller who is missing a relative. IF I WANTED A RAILROAD I WOULD JUST FUCKING PLAY ALL OF MY FAVORITE JRPGS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE WELL DEFINED GOOD AND FUN ROLES FOR ME TO ACTUALLY FUCKING ROLE PLAY AS.
      I'm not gonna sit here and let other people say "it's an rpg because it has rpg elements" cause that just isn't the fucking case, by this definition Bloons Tower Defense 6 (damn good game) is a role playing game. It isn't.
      Skyrim at best is an open world rpg-like quest simulator. Until someone makes a game that throws you into a world after letting you decide where you came from and who you are (AND ACTUALLY FUCKING ADHERES TO THIS 100%) in a world like Skyrim's or Fallout's or whatever the fuck shitty game you gays play then I won't let you call them accurate to the core ideas of a ROLEPLAYING GAME.
      It's as simple as that.
      Don't give me the idea of agency if you want me to be the mary sue. I don't mind not being a character I created but if that's how it's gonna be don't fucking give me the option whatsoever.
      >but you can just go wherever you want
      YOU CAN DO THIS IN ANY FUCKING VIDEO GAME, YOU CAN JUST PLAY GTA
      YOU CAN JUST PLAY FUCKING ANYTHING ELSE AND HAVE MORE FUN THAN SKYRIM

      anyways this is probably the end of my rant since I know you gays don't actually care or like anything beyond putting coomer mods into the game or modding it into being dark souls.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to be confusing RPGs with absolutely limitless sandboxes that let you live out your fetish. Without restrictions the RPG is bad. If you can just do or say whatever you want, the RPG is bad. This is not roleplaying in the pen and paper sense, this is roleplaying in the I put on my fur suit sense. A good DM will kill your party if you act like retards.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A good DM will kill your party if you act like retards.

          a bad one actually.
          Playing with retards is nice ,you don't even need rules or whatever just imagination,good buddies and a good dm that let you do whatever you want

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You seem to be confusing RPGs with absolutely limitless sandboxes that let you live out your fetish.

          No. I don't want a limitless sandbox you dingus. I literally said I like JRPGs. I want a believable world that lets me CHOOSE how I want to exist within the said world (WHICH IS WHAT ALL THESE SHITTY GAMES OFFER YOU BUT DON'T DELIVER ON).
          I don't mind a DM killing my character off for a dumb action my character decided to do. I don't mind the game having restrictions. I just want the game to actually let me do the bare minimum and let me create a character in the world the way I want him to be without needlessly attaching a shitty story to him/her that forces them into being a stereotypical mary sue that the whole world must bow to or die.

          I like stories in games don't get me wrong but if I want a story then I play literally any of the hundreds of really good JRPGs that let me play as their anime mc. I am not going to play a game like Skyrim for it's RPG elements, if I'm playing Skyrim it's cause I have hundreds of mods installed and I can pretend for the briefest of moments that it isn't a janky fucking piece of shit that lets me actually be a character in this world that isn't a god-like being.
          I also am not a degenerate furry I just looked up bloons td 6 porn and posted an image of one of the bloons because an image is more likely to get attention. I don't even like coomer games.

          one last thing I'd like to add.
          Dragon's Dogma and Elden Ring are just infinitely more fun and closer to RPGs than anything a western developer has ever made. Kenshi is close to being everything skyrim failed at being but it's janky as hell and most elements are not fun to actually play through (i.e the combat just sorta automatically happening and has very little actual depth, it's just moving around and making sure all your characters are not hitting eachother. The way the world is set up there is very little actual roleplaying to be had because it's actually a farming game. No dungeons, lore is kinda mediocre, the world is just fallout but better. overall just an okay game)
          despite it's flaws however, Kenshi is way more of an RPG than any fucking elder scrolls game.

          Like I said here, at least Elden Ring, Kenshi and Dragon's Dogma actually have the journey idea down before they make you overpowered. Two hours into Skyrim and you're basically already the strongest thing in the game.

          >A good DM will kill your party if you act like retards.

          a bad one actually.
          Playing with retards is nice ,you don't even need rules or whatever just imagination,good buddies and a good dm that let you do whatever you want

          Also this. Having fun is the entire point.
          A good DM has strict rules on the world but if it's possible in the real world then generally speaking it's possible within the game. I know it's impossible to make a video game that is like that but like I said, that is what they fucking promise you in games like Skyrim.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >mobileshit, furry porn, jrpgs, and yugioh
            damn dude you are absolute shit taste personified

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Two hours into Skyrim and you're basically already the strongest thing in the game.
            Have you even played Skyrim dumbass? Go fight a bear or a snow troll after you leave the tutorial dungeon. You'll be dead in seconds.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Go fight a bear or a snow troll after you leave the tutorial dungeon. You'll be dead in seconds.
              Are you retarded? An easily kited enemy with the starter fire spell everyone gets for some reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                record a video of you killing a frost troll right after the tutorial, you can spawn it with a console command if you don't know where to look
                I'll wait

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying i have chudrim installed
                record a video of you kys

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it was pretty obvious you were talking out of your ass
                Playing video games is too hard for you estrogen infused freaks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You obviously don't have much experience with the game then. Your starting magic isn't strong enough to take down a wild bear and he WILL run up and swipe you dead in 1-2 hits. And lets not even get into how there's also Giants in the game that you ought to stay far far away from initially. Shouldn't even have bothered with a clueless imbecile like you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you know what kiting means? It's very easily done because the Skyrim pathfinding AI is retarded.

                No it was pretty obvious you were talking out of your ass
                Playing video games is too hard for you estrogen infused freaks

                Nah, I remember there being a frost troll very early in the Skyrim MQ, the one in front of the monastery on the mountain.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can stop and sit down now, loser.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession you autogynephile skychud.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Skyrim pathfinding AI

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A good DM has strict rules on the world but if it's possible in the real world then generally speaking it's possible within the game. I know it's impossible to make a video game that is like that but like I said, that is what they fucking promise you in games like Skyrim.

            honestly skyrim with mods is close to hit ,unfortunaly there's limitations but if you want something ,there's probably a mod for it.
            Not skyrim but i even remember a mod on fallout 4 where enemies could surrend and then you could take them as captive or even rape them.
            >coombrain lol

            Just do whatever you want ,it has always been the thing of rpg not "achually you can't because i decided to because i'm the dm and we will be serious."

            gays like that are the worst,most of those people on vrpg are just talking about their waifus shit kek .Fucking soys

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "Go wherever you want. Do whatever you want" Todd Howard.

          That's how he promotes his games. You think you know better than him?

          RPG are supposed to fulfill your fantasies. Not restrict you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Todd has been selling games to the dewrito crowd since oblivion. He doesn't care about making a good game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Whether or not they are hardcore RPGs is another matter, but all of his games are undoubtedly fun. It's why people sink thousands of hours into them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He doesn't care about making a good game.
              I certainly am not the NUMBA WON Todd fan but this is not true. Garfi...Starfield is huge risk business wise. Untested, new IP in the notoriously niche space opera mold which already looks like a less soiboish No Mans Sky. If he were in for the money he would aggressively expand the production company (they still hover at around 100 active developers) and rapidly pump out TES-Fallouts like turds coming out of a deers ass

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"Go wherever you want. Do whatever you want"
            >NO LEVITATION
            You lied Todd, you lied

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Go to nexus.com and download levitation mod :^)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >daggerfall should be out for christmas
                >posted in 1995
                Good to see todd got started early

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        one last thing I'd like to add.
        Dragon's Dogma and Elden Ring are just infinitely more fun and closer to RPGs than anything a western developer has ever made. Kenshi is close to being everything skyrim failed at being but it's janky as hell and most elements are not fun to actually play through (i.e the combat just sorta automatically happening and has very little actual depth, it's just moving around and making sure all your characters are not hitting eachother. The way the world is set up there is very little actual roleplaying to be had because it's actually a farming game. No dungeons, lore is kinda mediocre, the world is just fallout but better. overall just an okay game)
        despite it's flaws however, Kenshi is way more of an RPG than any fucking elder scrolls game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I love DD, ER and also Skyrim 🙂

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are me and you are my moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh wait you have autism, and here I was telling you to use your intelligence, what was I thinking.

        You won't ever appreciate how good skyrim is and that's ok, your brain is just wired in a different way. Just understand that your notion of what us or isn't enjoyable is highly subjective and mostly due to the peculiar condition you have

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You won't ever appreciate how good skyrim is and that's ok, your brain is just wired in a different way.
          I don't have autism I am just directly combatting the idea that skyrim is this grand adventure that can be played any way you want.
          That just is not the case.
          It's fun at times sure. It's just not anywhere near as good as everyone says and the main reason people buy it 3 times in a row is for porn mods.

          > Just understand that your notion of what us or isn't enjoyable is highly subjective and mostly due to the peculiar condition you have
          I never argued my opinion wasn't subjective, but the fact that everyone just says "ignore the story" when it's literally the most fun you can have in the base game and the most advertised part of the game AND the part of the game with the most actually fun game mechanics it's kinda hard to do that.
          Like I said, there is no good way to roleplay in base Skyrim. I can mod it and just play that but then I'm not playing the game that Bethesda made, I'm playing the game that I tailor made using Bethesda's game as a template.

          "bro you're autistic, your opinion is worth less than mine"
          says the autistic person defending a billion dollar company who can't even make a game that is even somewhat as good as a real tabletop game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You gave autism my diagnostic is as good as it gets, it's not a problem but check with a specialist and he will confirm.

            I'm not defending Bethesda I don't care about their interests, it doesn't matter to me if you pirate the game or buy it, I'm merely explaining why skyrim is a great game and I hope more similar games are made.

            I had high hopes for fallout 4 but it failed by imposing too much of a backstory and personality to your character and by giving you fuck all to do appart from boring radiant quests and following the retarded story

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The game actively wants you (the player) to be DRAGONBORN ruler
      Just never do the main quest and skip every dialogues, don't even engage with any quest just be a murderhobo.
      If there's one game that let you create any character you want it's skyrim but you have to use your imagination, you can't expect the game to tailor its main quest anticipating any background you can imagine

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If there's one game that let you create any character you want it's skyrim but you have to use your imagination, you can't expect the game to tailor its main quest anticipating any background you can imagine
        I can and will
        >Just never do the main quest and skip every dialogues
        BRO JUST IGNORE THE GAME THEY MADE
        >don't even engage with any quest just be a murderhobo.
        LOOOL JUST KILL EVERYONE
        ok cunt I have done this and it's fun don't get me wrong but the game actively goes against what I was roleplaying as and the main quest is really the most fun you can have playing skyrim.

        I mean at the very least the game could have some options for "beating' the game that isn't doing the main quest. I just think that skyrim is barely an RPG and it's fine but people saying you can be anyone you want are just lying. the truth would be: YOU CAN BE ANYONE YOU WANT (IF YOU IGNORE THE STORY)
        which is fine
        but don't tell me i can do anything and go anywhere when the game will actively destroy your immersion if you try doing that
        idk why people get so upset when i tell them this, it's just a video game at end of the day

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >BRO JUST IGNORE THE GAME THEY MADE
          Of you decide to roleplay as a character who would ignore the main quest then obviously do so. You're lot losing any content, you can always do the main quest with a character that would do it. You can do any quest but you aren't meant to.

          >I have done this and it's fun
          So you are having fun, why do you pretend that you don't like the game?

          >don't get me wrong but the game actively goes against what I was roleplaying as and the main quest is really the most fun you can have playing skyrim.
          The main quest is shit and the most fun I've had with the game is role-playing as a specific character and making up my own quest with my own backstory. One of my character hated elves and killed any elf he met if he could get away with it. Another cared about nothing but money and just traveled from town to town to buy and sell goods. Another was a misanthropic alchemist and just lived in the middle of nowhere to work of potions.

          The possibilities are limitless when you are creative and no game let you this amount of freedom. If you play it as a quest generator or an action game skyrim is average at best, but if you play it as an rpg sandbox it's without equal.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay then this is down to personal preference cause I only really had fun modding and playing the main story. I think the sidequests are shit.
            >You're lot losing any content, you can always do the main quest with a character that would do it. You can do any quest but you aren't meant to.
            Not doing the story doesn't give you the shouts which are the most fun I've had in skyrim

            >So you are having fun, why do you pretend that you don't like the game?
            I'm not pretending I don't like the game but the reasons why I am making these posts is
            Being fun and actually being a good game are two different things.
            Because being fun alone doesn't exempt something from criticism.
            Because I am tired of people saying it's a great RPG when the most fun I've had in the basegame is doing the main story and there is no way to reach a win condition without doing that. It's inherently flawed game design to say "you can do anything" "you can go anywhere" "you can be anyone" etc when you literally can not do those things and still beat the game.
            the win condition is possibly the most important thing in a video game and if you can't reach it without sacrificing your character's background then it's failing to immerse you in the world.

            I am fairly creative and I generally do just make characters in games, skyrim isn't a goto game for doing that imo though. Kenshi is just better for this all around and I do just play kenshi for doing specific characters and builds. It has more actual roleplaying than skyrim.

            You gave autism my diagnostic is as good as it gets, it's not a problem but check with a specialist and he will confirm.

            I'm not defending Bethesda I don't care about their interests, it doesn't matter to me if you pirate the game or buy it, I'm merely explaining why skyrim is a great game and I hope more similar games are made.

            I had high hopes for fallout 4 but it failed by imposing too much of a backstory and personality to your character and by giving you fuck all to do appart from boring radiant quests and following the retarded story

            "You're autistic, I said so"
            I literally am not, I've been diagnosed. I don't think skyrim is bad, it's a fine game I am just criticizing it and saying it's not an RPG. That's all I've done.
            If it's autism to say that your character is literally always the Dragonborn in skyrim then I have autism and all of you have schizophrenia. Like someone else in this thread said "you're predestined to become dragonborn" or someshit which basically just proves my point.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only way to roleplay in Skyrim is to deliberately avoid quests with the foreknowledge that they'll contradict your character's class or alignment

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So just do that? But if players want to do all the quests then they can do that as well. Freedom is what RPGs are all about. Freedom to go wherever and do whatever.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reddit spacing

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I "bought" this game just for Khajiit and Argonian tits

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It would be a pretty good game if it didn't have 1000 bugs and stupid fuck ups to slowly ruin your experience.
    Looting chests and come across a strange item? welp its stuck in your inventory til you complete that quest, you also havent even started the quest yet and have no idea where you go to start it. Good luck and dont mind now having 5 pounds less of item burden. Now have that happen 6 times.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you played Skyrim recently? I played the anniversary edition recently and encountered zero bugs. There's also the unofficial patch available to further iron everything out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I legit installed the remaster on switch last weekend and it's just as buggy as the day it came out. at least 5 glitches within the first 15 minutes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea I've never played the Switch version. Atleast the home consoles (PS4/Xbox) also got the unofficial patch through mod support so there's that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm playing AE at the moment and I've encountered a few glitches (admittedly with almost 200 mods), but a lot have been in TES since Morrowind and several are in Fallout 4 too.
        >use a door to enter a new cell. The door plays its animation but the cell doesn't start loading.
        >mannequins load NPC AI and start walking around
        >followers won't fucking follow. I run off and the cunt stays behind admiring the view.
        >I'm getting the shit kicked out of me and my follower's AI is completely passive. Even if they get hit by a spell or grenade they just tell the enemy to stop. Otherwise hostile NPCs ignore them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not a mod-hater or anything but 200 mods seems overkill. Might want to tone it down if you expect your game to run smoothly. I think Skyrim/Fallout 4 have 100 limit on consoles.

          >mannequins load NPC AI and start walking around

          I would be spooked if this happened.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The gays who claim Skyrim isn't an RPG are the ones who still play tabletop garbage in this day and age or glorify the absolutely retarded tabletop systems from their childhood.
    You can safely ignore these mouthbreathing retards as they are more interested in wasting your time writing paragraphs of forum posts and splitting hairs rather than playing video games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least they aren't autogynephile chuds. Kys.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tabletop garbage is filled with more trannies than your twitter account
        but you already knew that you chud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So the ones who say Skyrim isn't an RPG are people that play actual RPGs? Imagine my fucking shock.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I guess video games that don't allow you to select your pronouns aren't "actual RPGs" for you tabletop trannies

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow sad to see trannies living rent free in your head, all because Skyrim is a fucking shitty RPG and a mediocre action adventure game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            rent free is all you can afford playing board games with your homeless friends
            lmao at your life

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is your average Skyrim player, a mentally ill chud getting off on his self-insert having titty physics. This is the type of people arguing that this game has any substance.
        Truly loathsome people.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >yikes oof sweaty you're enjoying females
          >how problematic
          cope, seethe and dilate, we know you can't masturbate with your axe wound.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Seethe Harder

            let's be honest... if you play as a woman then you're fucking gay. no buts or ifs. simple as that bro.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              don't care what you think trannoid, you don't even know what a woman is.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                says the dude that stares at man ass for hours

                if you role-play as the female character and go "damn she's sexy" then you are a literal autogynephile. you're becoming the woman you wish you had. saddest shit ever. the lowest point a man could reach. basically a chud but even more sad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you role-play as the female
                stop projecting trannoid

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                then what else do you do? really explain. what do you do? how do you justify willingly putting yourself in a woman's shoes and acting out a woman's experience in a game?
                >keeps repeating "chud" to convince people he isn't one
                sounds like you have a projection problem, not me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I masturbate to women. Hard for you to grasp now that you have a festering wound in your crotch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you masturbate to being a woman. if you "just masturbate to women" then why not just watch porn and do it? instead you have to play a game and pretend to be the woman. why do this? seriously, think what that says about you as a man.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you masturbate to being a woman
                more projection from a trannoid
                literally cannot fathom anyone not being a autogynephiliac like yourself

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not everyone in this world likes to self insert to any fictional media character you dumbfuck chud.
                Right now I played modded skyrim and I designed the dragonborn just like Melina in elden ring, even named her Melina as well because I thought its funny to see that character in skyrim world. I didnt self insert as that character, I treat that character just like when I played Ezio in assassin creed or Geralt in witcher. But of course chud like you always thought everyone in the world is a self insert fag, kys.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              says the dude that stares at man ass for hours

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You aren't staring at ass though, unless you're ruled by your dick.
                Besides, playing third person is gay, period. If my game doesn't have first person, it is not my game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seethe Harder

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pic related is the cover of the very first Elder Scrolls game. Coom sluts go hand in hand with Fantasy RPGs and something fans of the genre often want to see included. This is coming from someone who plays Skyrim on console with no mods.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There are women with their tits out (some even nude) in Daggerfall and Battlespire, mostly the enemies, though. Redguard women in Arena and Daggerfall also wore particularly revealing clothing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that era doesn't exist anymore. even if the new elder scrolls game has redguard bitches in it, you'll neeeever see any fucking titties ploppin' about, never ever ever ever and fucking ever. the twitter mob won't allow it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Considering the games have official mod support that era is never going to be over.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >enter random house in daggerfall
            >someone says "come on in"
            >greeted by hot naked woman undressing

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=14996
    >25 hours
    I ain't playing that shit, bro.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You need atleast 500+ hours to even understand what Skyrim is trying to accomplish. Being serious here. It's supremely popular for a reason.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TES fills the Final Fantasy niche of WRPGs. It's not supposed to be a grognard-y game. Its adapting the WRPG formula to a mass appeal market. In doing so it has outsold every single player game in existence. Todd won btw.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >first western game to achieve a perfect score from the Japanese
    >JRPG worshipping fags on this board shit on it and pretend le Elden Ring is wholly original and inspired when it’s creator said Oblivion is one of his favorite games ever created

    Imagine being Todd. You have all these fat retarded autists trying to shit on you. Meanwhile the guys they worship see you as an idol to emulate. Beyond based

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've always loved Todd and am incredibly grateful to him. He's probably accomplished more for video games in the RPG/Fantasy genre than anyone on this planet. Elden Ring, Zelda BOTW, Witcher 3, Dragon's Dogma... all inspired by Skyrim and probably wouldn't exist as they are without it.

      >https://www.videogamer.com/features/dragons-dogma-how-hideaki-itsuno-is-taking-on-skyrim-and-the-world/

      Here's Itsuno (Director of Dragon's Dogma and Elden Ring) admitting Skyrim holds the crown when it comes to RPGs.

      Personally though, my favorite RPG currently is Elden Ring.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and Elden Ring
        Sorry I meant Devil May Cry*

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RPG doesn't mean anything anymore. Basically everything is an RPG. The only labels that still make sense at all are things like ARPG, MMO, JRPG, etc.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >extremely limited character building and there are FPS games with more complex character building
    >little to no agency throughout the story and side quests
    It's more of an action adventure game like botw than it is a rpg

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >puts you in the shoes of Dragonborn regardless of what you want

    This is fine because the Dragonborn is just a destined title and you become it during the course of the game. Your character could still be anyone from anywhere before the game starts and it works. The problems arise when the games start predefining your backstory and who your character is BEFORE you’re even playing as them like Fallout 4 did.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess this is a fair argument but I still think it ruins the fun and immersion a lot of the time because my character was not intended to be the kind of character that would become an important figure.
      Being destined to become the Dragonborn for my character was and still is a ridiculous idea and it just ruins my fun. The game forces it on you and basically locks you out of content until you simply agree to become the Dragonborn by completing the story quests.

      [...]
      >That was not a furry, it is literally a blimp
      >accidentally post you furry inflation porn
      >i-its not furry

      It wasn't accidental. I literally was talking about Bloons in that post. It also literally is not a furry. A furry artist probably drew that but it's definitely not a furry, blimps don't have fur nor are they animals. I guess it does count as inflation because blimps are literally inflated and full of gas so you win this round. Why are you so obsessed with the idea of my pure, smooth blimps being furries? Does it irk you (an animal) that I can only get off to the seductive look of blimps full of explosive gasses that would destroy monkey civilization if not popped?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know you can just ignore the Dragonborn quests right? The game forces nothing on you. If you want to be a Thief then just go straight to Riften and join the Thieves Guild. Consider those as your "main quests" from then on. I see now that most Skyrim "critics" on Ganker are just braindead wastes of skin that lack any semblance of imagination.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would you join the Thieves' Guild when the quest line is so fucking atrocious? Even the Companions isn't as bad as the fucking Thieves' Guild.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is literally the main quest. It is literally incentivized to do it because it gives you the most fun you can have in that game. The shouts were literally one of the most advertised things in the game.
          sure you could effectively ignore the actual fucking game but then you'd be losing because you are ACTIVELY IGNORING THE WIN CONDITION.
          fuck you retard
          maybe make multiple endings that can happen instead of just one questline that actually rolls the credits if you want me to actually roleplay.

          also what

          Why would you join the Thieves' Guild when the quest line is so fucking atrocious? Even the Companions isn't as bad as the fucking Thieves' Guild.

          said
          a lot of the quests just are not as good as the main quest. there is not the same attention to detail or fun to be had there.
          you are incentivized to play they way THEY want you to play so why would you actively choose to play in a way that would not get you the sweet release of steam achievements.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The games FORCES you!!!
            No you can play differently.
            >I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT

            Just fuck off already you miserable shitstain. Also, if you like the shouts so much then just look for them without investing in the main quest? I believe you should be able to just look for shouts on your own wherever after killing the first Dragon outside Whiterun.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It is effectively the same thing as forcing you if you can't beat the game without doing it.
              If I get the shouts after beating the dragon then I am still the Dragonborn, that doesn't fix the issue.
              I didn't say I didn't want to play ignoring the main quest either. If I could skip the main quest and still beat the game I fucking would play it like that but I can't so I wont.
              I literally asked "why would I do that?" because there is no incentive to do so and those quests are not as good as the main quest. also see this post

              AT LEAST JRPGS LET ME BE THE CHARACTER THEY CHOSE FOR ME TO PLAY. In games like skyrim and fallout 3/NV/4 you will always be playing THEIR set up for this world. You can't just choose a place to exist from and make your own character, you are the man/woman that got shot in the head and survived, you are the Dragonborn, you are the vault dweller who is missing a relative. IF I WANTED A RAILROAD I WOULD JUST FUCKING PLAY ALL OF MY FAVORITE JRPGS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE WELL DEFINED GOOD AND FUN ROLES FOR ME TO ACTUALLY FUCKING ROLE PLAY AS.
              I'm not gonna sit here and let other people say "it's an rpg because it has rpg elements" cause that just isn't the fucking case, by this definition Bloons Tower Defense 6 (damn good game) is a role playing game. It isn't.
              Skyrim at best is an open world rpg-like quest simulator. Until someone makes a game that throws you into a world after letting you decide where you came from and who you are (AND ACTUALLY FUCKING ADHERES TO THIS 100%) in a world like Skyrim's or Fallout's or whatever the fuck shitty game you gays play then I won't let you call them accurate to the core ideas of a ROLEPLAYING GAME.
              It's as simple as that.
              Don't give me the idea of agency if you want me to be the mary sue. I don't mind not being a character I created but if that's how it's gonna be don't fucking give me the option whatsoever.
              >but you can just go wherever you want
              YOU CAN DO THIS IN ANY FUCKING VIDEO GAME, YOU CAN JUST PLAY GTA
              YOU CAN JUST PLAY FUCKING ANYTHING ELSE AND HAVE MORE FUN THAN SKYRIM

              anyways this is probably the end of my rant since I know you gays don't actually care or like anything beyond putting coomer mods into the game or modding it into being dark souls.

              I could just play a game that is actually a good rpg instead of playing within the limitations of this mediocre quest simulator. you're basically not human if you disagree.

              >ACTIVELY IGNORING THE WIN CONDITION.
              You make your own win condition in Skyrim. That's the best part. Go wherever you want, do whatever you want. Steam achievements mean nothing to Godd Howard.

              I do play it like this generally but you can't just say "bro you can do anything" when there is no reason to do so. There is no adventure to be had in not having fun. Don't get me wrong Skyrim can be fun at times but it's not fun to roleplay in it (because all the fun shit in the base game is tied to main quest) and it can hardly be called roleplaying. You have to actively detach yourself from what the game presents you as if you want to roleplay and that's just against what roleplaying is all about.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like your mind is too pigeon-holed for RPGs. Especially ones as immersive and holding as much breadth as Skyrim. Stick to whatever obscure trash you play. The ones who enjoy Skyrim aren't limited by things such as the """"main quest""" and steam achievements.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally play tons of RPGs and have lots of fun doing so, my whole argument is that Skyrim is not one. I also didn't say I didn't enjoy playing Skyrim, just that anything other than the main quest is not as good and not worth doing seeing as the main quest is where the actual game mechanics and fun are.

                I don't care if you think it's small brained to not disengage with the story but the story is what they clearly put the most effort into and it shows. It's a pretty good story all things considered. I am just pointing out that in Skyrim you are always the Dragonborn and there is no way to not be the Dragonborn unless you actively ignore the whole fun part of the game and play shitty sidequests that are not as good.
                I also think when you give up on trying to roleplay as your character in skyrim and start to roleplay as the Dragonborn it becomes more fun.

                >RPG means you create a character with a certain backstory and personality

                name one game in which you can choose your backstory in a meaninful way and also allows you to show a different personality by choice.

                Come on i'll wait.

                Dungeons & Dragons
                Call of Cthulhu
                Icons
                GURPS (and whatever version of GURPS you want to play)
                Most tabletop RPGs in general
                If you mean video games than basically none but I don't agree with his definition of RPG in general so it's fine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you even in this thread if you don't like video game RPGs?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see
                >they are more interested in wasting your time writing paragraphs of forum posts and splitting hairs rather than playing video games.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do like video game RPGs. I just don't think Skyrim is an RPG.

                List of RPGs that I like:
                Planescape Torment
                Phantasy Star (2-4)
                Phantasy Star Online (whole series)
                Pokemon Emerald
                Shin Megami Tensei (whole series)
                Final Fantasy (most of the games)
                Persona (1,2,3 and 5, didn't really like 4 but it's okay)
                Grandia 1-3
                Diablo 1 and 2
                Torchlight 1 and 2
                Wild Arms 1-3 and the remaster of 1
                Dragon's Dogma
                Elden Ring (and the rest of the souls game except ds1)
                Deus Ex
                System Shock 2
                Monster Hunter (basically all of them except 1 and world)
                Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2
                Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
                Monster Rancher 1-5
                E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy
                Bioshock 1-2
                .hack imoq
                .hack g.u

                and lots more that I can't be assed to post right now.
                see how most of these games don't tell you that you can be anything you want and do anything? see how these games give you who you are with minimal choices in that department and tell you to be a part of their world. Unlike Skyrim which puts you into a position from the get go, in these games the story tells you what you're going to be and then you fucking just are that.
                These are GOOD RPGs, Skyrim however is not an RPG because if it was you'd be retarded to classify it as anything but a BAD RPG.

                see
                >they are more interested in wasting your time writing paragraphs of forum posts and splitting hairs rather than playing video games.

                I am still playing games as we speak.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >monster hunter
                >RPG
                lmao, this is why you don't take these retards seriously

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >monster hunter isn't an rpg
                >you don't role play as a monster hunter in monster hunter
                >you don't have common rpg mechanics in monster hunter

                these are retard takes. have a nice day

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>you don't role play as a monster hunter in monster hunter
                You don't roleplay as the dragonborn in skyrim?
                >>you don't have common rpg mechanics in monster hunter
                You don't.
                Again this is why you don't take these retards seriously. They are more interested in splitting hairs than making a single coherent point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well said. Best to just ignore his ilk.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >takes
                back to twitter chud

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By that definition every game is an RPG. Prime characteristics of video game RPG's are choice/consequence, either in the narrative or gameplay (settling on builds). Both characteristics that Skyrim lacks. Only thing Skyrim is is a casual pastime for normalfags (back when it came out) and escapism for chuds who enjoy self-inserting as bimbos, knowing they will never pass in real life (current player base).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >either in the narrative or gameplay (settling on builds). Both characteristics that Skyrim lacks
                What the fuck are you talking about?
                Have you actually played skyrim?
                >game had a hard level cap forcing you to get perks based on your playstyle
                >civil war is a direct narrative split
                literally more choice than most infinity engine garbage but I doubt you think that even a single infinity engine game isn't an RPG.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the story tells you what you're going to be and then you fucking just are that

                >Dimwit thinks Bioshock is an RPG but Skyrim isn't

                So Hitman series is RPG because you play the role of a Hitman?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bioshock has RPG mechanics and you roleplay as Jack.
                Bioshock literally has dungeon like levels, monsters you fight, a progression system akin to tabletops etc.. How is it not an RPG?
                I haven't played a single Hitman game so maybe?

                >skyrim isn't an RPG
                >but monster hunter,bioshock, fucking monster rancher are

                There are progression systems that are just like the ones in tabletops in all of those games. Monster Rancher 1-2 just barely count I'll give you that but the rest of them are fully RPGs

                >>you don't role play as a monster hunter in monster hunter
                You don't roleplay as the dragonborn in skyrim?
                >>you don't have common rpg mechanics in monster hunter
                You don't.
                Again this is why you don't take these retards seriously. They are more interested in splitting hairs than making a single coherent point.

                You can ONLY roleplay as the Dragonborn in Skyrim but it gives you the promise of doing whatever the hell you want and being whatever the hell you want. It simply does not fit the trend of any good video game RPGs. Stats are also just so unimportant in the game because no matter what you do you'll always be strong enough to take on the main quest (which is the only thing that matters as you can't roleplay as anything but the Dragonborn in skyrim and is the only fun to be had in the game)
                Like I said rpg-like quest simulator
                not really an rpg
                a good rpg wouldn't lie and tell me I can do anything when I can't even be a green retarded guy who isn't special and does magic

                Also Monster Hunter is literally Phantasy Star Online set in a fantasy setting where you hunt monsters. The progression and stats are literally mechanics from role playing games.
                Action RPGs are still RPGs
                MMORPGs are still RPGs
                Immersive SIms are heavily influenced by tabletop game design so by my definition of what an RPG is they count.

                By that definition every game is an RPG. Prime characteristics of video game RPG's are choice/consequence, either in the narrative or gameplay (settling on builds). Both characteristics that Skyrim lacks. Only thing Skyrim is is a casual pastime for normalfags (back when it came out) and escapism for chuds who enjoy self-inserting as bimbos, knowing they will never pass in real life (current player base).

                Yeah, most games are RPGs, it is literally the most influential genre.
                However if they don't feature a big emphasis on progression and levels and an immersive explorable world then I don't count them. Skyrim isn't immersive to me. Skyrim stats don't really make me feel like I've accomplished anything, the game is easy and always was all the way through.
                I think personally though it needs to have a progression system that makes you better (number go up) and actually have roles that are fun.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can ONLY roleplay as the Dragonborn in Skyrim
                As opposed to Monster hunter where you can only roleplay as a monster hunter?
                >Yeah, most games are RPGs, it is literally the most influential genre.
                lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but you have actually varying different builds and meaningful progression on top of an explorable and fun world. Skyrim has none of that.

                >You can roleplay as Jack in Bioshock = RPG
                >You can roleplay as the Dragonborn in Skyrim =/= RPG

                Bioshock literally has more options in ways to play and different builds than any quest in Skyrim.
                Simply being able to roleplay as something doesn't make it a roleplaying game. The mechanics matter moreso than anything else and there is barely any meaningful RPG mechanics/progression in Skyrim. You are always strong, your build does not matter cause eventually you'll just max out everything, money is basically useless because the story gives you everything you need to win.

                as opposed to Bioshock where you have to manage resources, craft shit, choose which plasmids/weapons you use/upgrade, explore the spooky dungeon like ruins of rapture, experience a well thought out story that is told through all of the level design (jaquay-ed dungeons essentially) and audio logs (like handouts in tabletops)
                everything you do matters
                your progression varies wildly on every playthrough
                you can play this pre-established world any way you want.

                In Skyrim you are always the dragonborn and there is never any reason to do things differently cause it all feels like shit (except for the shouts and some magic), isn't immersive and the only fun things are tied to the main quest.
                I literally admitted it's RPG-like but it just isn't a real RPG. It's a fine game just not an RPG.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >on top of an explorable and fun world
                its literally all instanced areas separated by a loading zone
                How much drugs are you on right now?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >its literally all instanced areas separated by a loading zone
                The instanced areas are literally more interesting and fun to roam around in than all of skyrim. they literally have more in common with rpg design than most of skyrim

                open world idealistically is more like an rpg but nobody has ever done a good open world (except notch with minecraft)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can roleplay as Jack in Bioshock = RPG
                >You can roleplay as the Dragonborn in Skyrim =/= RPG

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >skyrim isn't an RPG
                >but monster hunter,bioshock, fucking monster rancher are

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ACTIVELY IGNORING THE WIN CONDITION.
            You make your own win condition in Skyrim. That's the best part. Go wherever you want, do whatever you want. Steam achievements mean nothing to Godd Howard.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >That was not a furry, it is literally a blimp
    >accidentally post you furry inflation porn
    >i-its not furry

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like video games 😀

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Me too :3

      What have you been playing Anon-kun?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I did reinstall Skyrim recently because I like going back to Bethesda games every once in a while to mess around in them for a bit. Other than that just replaying some old games on my retropie box cause I got the itch to play Shining Force again.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s a good standalone game, but an awful Elder Scrolls

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    10/10 best and most intricate porn game and H RPG I ever played.
    Needs a lot of addons slapped on top to make it playable tho, would never play this shit without them.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many copies of skyrim do you own? I have;
    Xbox 360
    Ps4
    Psvr
    Steam
    Steam vr
    Switch

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      X360 and PC when it first came out. Todd gave me Special Edition for free

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love it and so does Ganker, just look at the daily threads discussing about the lore and politics of the game. Everyone here played it for hundreds of hours and got immersed in its universe, but Gankertards are tsudere about liking a popular game so they'd rather nitpick its many flaws than accept it was overall a true masterpiece

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have grown to appreciate it but I can see its flaws very clearly. The extreme streamlining is really evident as you are missing basic spell effects that used to be commonplace in both oblivion and morrowind.
      I would be hard pressed to even call Skyrim an action game because of the way combat and AI works in it. Its barely a step above tab targeting MMO combat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it was overall a true masterpiece
      More than that Skyrim was a phenomenon and managed to bring in a whole new audience into Fantasy/Role-playing games. More so than any other RPG perhaps.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ttrpg definition
    You role play with table top game rules
    vgrpg definition
    >uhm, achually, the uh, mechanics-

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Video Games > Traditional Games
      Why should I have to sit with sweaty strangers in some randoms basement when I could just boot up Morrowind instead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unlike ttrpgs you're limited by what the developers make
      so the mechanics and level/world design are the only things that define a vgrpg

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The issue is most mechanics are transferable from one genre to another, the only thing that should actually matter is if you can emulate actual roleplay or not. Dialogue choices, alternate ways to approach questline, etc.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          eh
          I think having isolated stories stylized like roleplaying is fine since it's literally impossible to emulate a real tabletop accurately
          you'll never have moments where players find out a way to climb Cthulhu and somehow survive
          or doing silly things like having a higher strength stat than some high level enemies and suplexing them like wrestler in d&d.
          Your imagination is wider and vaster than any video game so it's just currently impossible to turn that into a game.

          This is part of why I think games like Bioshock and System Shock are more like RPGs than something like Skyrim where a lot of it is just loosely themed like a fantasy RPG with no actual mechanics that make how you progress and how you approach situations different (the mechanics are also incredibly lenient and the world design is incredibly forgiving). There is also no moments in which you can do something that takes imagination to succeed that isn't just breaking the game using glitches or falling on the intended design for alternate routes.
          Puzzle solving in ImSims is the closest thing to solving puzzles in a real tabletop but even then it kinda falls flat. The worlds in ImSims are also pretty close to those in real tabletop games but it's hit or miss a lot of the time.

          I don't think it should be always attempting to copy the tabletop experience because then only role 20 and tabletop sim and games like baldurs gate would ever count as RPGs and we'd have no definition for JRPGs and wizardry-likes. We'd also lose out names for games like vangers where it's unlike anything else i've ever played but has elements of RPGs and racing games.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yo todd, how's it hangin'? still shilling skyrim, i see...

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never downloaded a single coomer mod for any Bethesda or similar games.

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