I blame half elves for the diminishment of the elvish race.
Half elves shouldn’t be the best of both worlds, they should be outcasts with unnatural lifespans. The Elf/Human pairing should be a tragedy, that was the whole point of Aragorn and Arwen. Elrond knew that it wouldn’t only lead to suffering as a half elf himself.
By making the half-elf a staple in fantasy and roleplaying games, you have turned elves from mystical creatures into quirky weird people you want to romance.
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Also: due to power creep, the Aasimar have overtaken the function in storylines that half elves served. As being the offspring of mundane and mystical.
I thought tieflings were the ones who overtook that function being the unwanted bastards of the planes.
I believe after BG3, Tieflings have gone from edgy to just cutesy OC designs in the eyes of the public.
Nah, 4e started that trend when they retconned the lore
Tieflings have been like that since before BG3 started development.
Because Elves look fricking weird - beautiful, but alien - and when you muddle those genetics they look even more fricked up. Their weird looks, their exclusion from Elven society, and their long lives make them more likely to become societal outcasts, and the few Half Elves that do ascend to the upper classes are treated with mistrust and generally have a hard time integrating.
A middle-aged Half Elf might have already tried to play the entire bootstrapping game only to find themselves completely disillusioned with Human society despite their unique physiological advantages.
It was like that already, probably due to Critical Roll. But starting around 4E, they were already becoming a popular race. Starting from the 90's to the mid 2000's, they were gaining in popularity.
Tieflings are the Red-Flag race at this point in time.
All the people I play with are extremely cautious of people that want to play Tieflings.
>thinks anything else than male human fighter isn't a red flag
ngmi
Aasimar were always just a sanitized version of the Nephilim without any of the things that made them cool
>without any of the things that made them cool
And what specifically are those things?
IDK Being Giants born from fallen/rebellious angels and the daughters of men? And being wiped out by a jealous God because they taught men to make war? How some of their parents turned into Demons that had to be written out of the holy texts of God, and how when they die they actually go down into tartarus/sheol and live with the shades of ancient pagans because they are barred from Heaven?
We have tieflings for edge anon.
Let the Aasimar chill with their heavenly bros, they don't even have to interbreed. A celestial just needs to be vaguely present at the time of the kids birth.
Cool, I actually like those.
Yeah, that's very cool, so don't let half-elves exist in your games and settings.
Will this thread talk about games or just be another muh human dick shitposting fest?
Stop projecting your lack of a stable game onto the rest of the board. People who actually play games don't obsess over how every single thread needs to be about game mechanics, nor do they seethe over people talking about the on-topic concepts of setting and storytelling.
Why would human society cast them out? They look like supermodels, live longer and probably go with slighty better reflexes and all. Thats prime material to be societys envy because beautiful people recieve better treantment. And now imagine you are of high social standing and score an inheritable position. BAM! Your familys claim to that is secured for the next 200 years. Outcast from elven culture? Sure. But human? That has always been bullshit.
I guess because they offer a massive incentive towards assassination. 200 years will be very quickly reduced to 5 years if the half-elf can't produce children.
>assassination
why would that be unique to half-elves?
>if the half-elf can't produce children
not really a common trait in settings with half-elves.
The long lifespan means that at least a couple of generations will die out before they have even half the chance to inherit anything without "accidents" happening. Half-elf children could also get impatient seeing daddy running things since forever.
If a half-elf could have kids they'd just interbreed with other humans to the point where elf traits would be eventually lost.
that assuming they don't breed with other half elves too
Didn't Forgotten Realms have one or two kingdoms of self-sustaining half-elves?
Also the Bretons in Elder Scrolls, I guess?
If I remember right the bretons were created as an experiment on eugenics by some highelves by mixing mer and men blood for a few generations
Nah, Altmer men took nedic concubines and the offspring was sometimes given some privileged positions during the Altmers rule over them.
Genetics in TES don't really work like that, the child is overwhelmingly of the mother's race. It takes generations of intermixed breeding to see combined characteristics of different races in offspring
TES Breton descend from constant casual flings between elf lords and Nedic human subjects. most one off hybrids are the mothers race with traits from the father, this happened on such a society wide scale from upper class flings, that the hybrids where turned into administrators who where pretty prolific themselves.
>They look like supermodels, live longer and probably go with slighty better reflexes and all. Thats prime material to be societys envy
You answered yourself.
Still, its not like Chad and Stacy become societys outcasts. If anything, they live life on easy mode.
They would live under constant threat of assassination both from outsiders and family members wanting to speed up things.
Thats every person in a position of power. Dont have to be half elven for that.
Yet, it is more likely to happen if the potential heirs realise that daddy is going to rule for almost 200 years.
>Why would human society cast them out?
Because they are not humans, they are animals, it does not matter if an animal can speak or use tools, any other animal can do the same, besides, elves shit in the forest.
motherfricker the Overlord is a certified fairy-fricker who impregnated his fae wife shut the frick up with this cringe larp
well... in his defense, fairies are superior to elves.
"Just after my grandpa was married, he met an elf and the fricker spirited him away to a ball - only a single night passed for my grandpa, but he aged 40 years and returned to my grandma an old man, dying of old age a week later. Grandma taught us all to hate elves and kill them on sight. You can't trust the frickers with their trickery and unnatural magiking."
I just prefer not to allow crossbreeding in my setting outside of like eldritch abominations, ogres, and minotaurs.
I find Tolkien's approach interesting where the half-elves get to chose to be human or elves, and yes, there are genuine advantages to being mortal in LOTR, namely not being forever bound to Middle-Earth even after death.
What's so bad about Middle Earth, aside from the slightly overcooked spot it doesn't seem so bad
Men are doomed to leave the world and escape from the circles of the world. The anguish of Elves is being doomed to never leave it, even after death, reincarnating or fading away into spirits, and see it decay and corrupted until the end of times.
>The Elf/Human pairing should be a tragedy
It is, an Elf will outlive their human lover and their half elf descendants for generations, becoming more and more estranged to their half elf progeny as the realities of being a near ageless being take hold.
But anon, this was always the case.
Helgi the Dane, brother of Hrothgar, rapes an elf at his hall leading to the birth of Skuld--a half-elf.
ln chivalric romances, things may be more consensual, but overall elf x human is common as hell.
A Burgundian(?) noblewoman was raped by an elf (a dwarf only in modern re-tellings) magically disguised as her husband resulting in Hogni--a half-elf.
Weyland the Smith (an elf) rapes a Nordic King's daughter as part of his vengeance against that house resulting in Witege a Germanic hero and --half-elf.
Eadric the Wild (a Saxon) also carried off an elven bride (classical sense of rape), married her and had half-elven children.
Why the frick did the chivalric comment get moved to the middle of the post?!
>I blame half elves for the diminishment of the elvish race
Instead of blaming Elves for killing each other over boats and israeliteels. You're a mook.
I'd kill alot of people over enough israeliteellery or priceless cultural art.
To reiterate: you're a mook.
The example is very bad, many mutants have powers that can kill humans by dozens with just a bad thought, that's why most humans fear them
Thinking of implementing tiered player race chances for my next campaign, something like roll over target number and you can choose to play an "unusual" race. I guess Helves and Horcs should be considered rarer than their full blood counterparts, at the cost of the full bloods having some drawbacks.
>the "dilemma" of [thing that personally bothers me] from [thing I can ignore] in [hobby for creating/playing anything you want]
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I hope treating Ganker like your personal blog has made you feel better.
Maybe one day you'll understand how to solve your problems and how easy it actually is to do so.
Asperger’s or ESL?
I'm serious.
OP's so-called "dilemma" is nothing in the context of a hobby where you can just do what you want.
You don't have to hinge on "staples"; make your game how you want.
You don't have to worry about what other people are doing, make your game how you want.
You don't have to shitpost on /tg/ about literature, make your game how you want.
Consider these things, and if you have any counters to them, bring them up instead of screeching "ATHBERGERTH" or "EEE ETH EHL" like a distended meat cabbage.
The real dilemma here is the sheer amount of homosexuals letting their dependency on attention, what people think, and what's popular cripple their ability to make and play games.
>You don't have to hinge on "staples"; make your game how you want.
>You don't have to worry about what other people are doing, make your game how you want.
>You don't have to shitpost on /tg/ about literature, make your game how you want.
And you can discuss your reasoning for doing so on /tg/ all you want.
>And you can discuss your reasoning for doing so on /tg/ all you want.
It doesn't appear OP is making his game how he wants, considering he's just b***hing about what he doesn't like and treating it like it's such a difficult choice to make, especially considering the other options are actually more desirable.
It isn't a fricking dillema, the choice is actually very easy to make, and the alternatives can be tailor-made to one's own liking.
Make your games and play them instead of being a parasitic, hyperchondriac c**t.
>like a distended meat cabbage.
Today on "1960's recipe or Thrash Band Name?"
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Most half-elves are already viewed as not-quite-fitting-in by basic fantasy lore. You're complaining about nothing.
Uh oh, you just challenged OP on the validity of his inane topic that needed to be posted.
You must be some sort of autist who can't speak English!
Ah, I see I hit nerve here
Definitely an aspie
is this a case of elf slave what do or elf bride what do?
either way, this is just giving me a headache...
Shouldn't you be blaming the elven fathers who rather involve themselves with short lived human women instead of continuing the race with high maintenance elven women?
>Most actual half elves in fiction have human mothers and elven fathers
>At least those that come to my mind
Elves are feminine, that's why the whole fantasy is about fricking impossibly beautiful elf women and having them abandon their whole perfect magic land for your wiener.
Male elves don't have the same allure for women.
>Male elves don't have the same allure for women
You are completely out of touch.
Shit no-games thread.
I thought of putting a list here, but I decided this isn't worth it
my buddies sisters had the greatest hots for Legolas back in the day
>Elves are feminine
Holy fricking shit have a nice day or go read the Silmarilion NOW. Elves are beautiful and masculine.
>Male elves don't have the same allure for women.
lol
lmao even
>Elrond knew that it wouldn’t only lead to suffering as a half elf himself.
Elrond's parents were both immortal.
>Half elves shouldn’t be the best of both worlds, they should be outcasts with unnatural lifespans.
Funny you go on to mention Elrond, who literally has no drawbacks whatsoever.
>>Most actual half elves in fiction have human mothers and elven fathers
>EVERY SINGLE elf/human pairing in LOTR is elf woman/human man
>Tanis was born from an elf mother
>If you're a weeb, Marcille's mother was an elf
You are literally exactly wrong on this point.
SINGLE elf/human pairing in LOTR is elf woman/human man
Andreth and Aegnor.
The other half-elf in dungeon meshi has an elfen father (very likely). The only half-elf in Lodoss has an elfen father as well.
>Andreth and Aegnor.
Very sweet
Zero babies
>Lodoss
Cool example. Far less prominent than Tolkien or Dragon Lance.
I don't agree with the notion that most half-elves in fiction have human fathers, but some of your statements were blatantly wrong.
I was thinking about Shadowheart (BGIII); Vex and Vax (Vox Machina); Brie (Drizzt); that girl half-elf from Lodoss whose name I can't recall (I think it was 'Leaf'?),
the Bretons just generally because Altmer were horny, 99% of half-drow in general
Yeah, it was Leaf (or Leif, according to this translation).
>left to right
I had to read this twice
Absolute dezgra
>Why'd your dad call you Leaf?
>It's what he did to me and my mom
When the elf X human romance is featured or relevant to the plot, it's almost always male human, female elf.
If it's just some random background info/unimportant npc, anything goes.
Drizzt is an exception.
I'm discussing half-elves and you bring shipping into this
You're right, that's even Frieren's point.
>Chad and Stacy are legitimately better than you (studies show), and also live in a completely separate society from most normal people, and are loathed by normal people for it.
literally a lie.
I haven't really seen a fantasy setting in books or ttrpg that explores what would really happen if an immortal race could interbreed with humans.
What happened is that they became extinct, it is the most logical thing.
Well assuming there wasn't an elf superiority movement to stick to other elves in order to keep their immortality genes pure.
Cool
Do that for your game, don't try to dictate what "should be" for people you will never meet
No, they're hated by inept losers like the average Ganker poster
Normal people might think "boy it'd be nice to be him" and then move on with their life
NTA, but, normalgays absolutely do envy other people as much as the stereotypical loser you're revealing yourself to be through your projection. The main difference is that they typically have the knowledge and social skills necessary to hide their envy/resentment better.
If I made elves live reasonably short lived(150-200 years) and half elves live inbetween humans ans elves(120-140 years), how would they compare to other settings' elves?
Shitty.
Elfs long lifes is not their defining trait but a result of their unique nature
Elaborate
I feel like almost no one actuall can, wants or needs very long lived elves
This. I have been planning to create a deepest lore around longevity based on the lack of the deathly sins, of which pride is one. Elves literally can't be prideful or they stop being elves.
Matches D&D 4E which did that because longer lifespans were not relevant to the game.
Sure why not. Do as you please. My twin brother made his Elves live only 20% longer than humans. Personally, in my setting, Elves live about 400 years and Dark Elves live about ~1000.
As in
I think the implications of long lived races on most settings, explored or not, are generally negative as they make most worlds make less sense.
It's a reasonable take, my brother does that. Infact I was debating on toning down the number myself. However I am keeping longer lived elves around deliberately, and that's because it's a flexible number. With in setting, the Primordial Elf is functionally immortal. After he procreated with his own shadow, Elven kind split into two, an Elf named Romulus and a Dark Elf named Reemus. Eventually due to breeding with other species, they've gradually lost their immortality and their lifespans have greatly lowered. The reason why Dark Elves have longer lifespans, is because after converting Christianity, the King of the Dark Elves made it so any interspecies relationship with a Dark Elf requires his approval, something he seldom gives.
>diminishment of the elvish race
Bland and Reddit's favorite. For these two factors alone you should ditch this overdone, forced meme.
Elves are meant to be a rising Christianity-like polity.
I'd say the best is thing is to make them Mules. Some of the strengths of both parents, but they're stubborn and sterile.
I've never seen the point of slopping all over /tg/.
realistically unless hybrids are sterile then you'd likely see settlements or even full blown kingdoms comprised of half elves or half orcs especially since they're suppose to be ostracized by most pure races.
You'd have the pure elf kingdom who lives for millenia, the half-elf kingdom who lives for pretty long but not as long as pure elves, and a human kingdom that has short lives.
>t. OP is a small dicked loser elven "noble" who had been courting an elven maiden for half a century only for her to jump the bone of a human a week after meeting him.
I like Freud only wrote about projection because his nanny converted to Catholicism and one of their tenets is anti-projecton which is why French revolutionaries called them chretiens = cretins.
>Have you ever been white in a non white country ?
yes, and the paranoid shit you talk about doesn't happen
>you have turned elves from mystical creatures into quirky weird people you want to romance.
because elves aren't supposed to by mystical creatures in my setting, they are supposed to be just a long lived race
not everyone is trying to copy Tolkien
Human male X Elf female are the shittiest fantasy couples. Including Tolkien's.
>Be ruler
>Need to separate myself from commoners even more
>Say you are descended from a known [insert supernatural being] to the population you control
>They have to accept it or else
>Be known in the distant future as a god with a bird head
>Mfw
Doesn't matter what you want, doesn't matter what you think should be, every supernatural being you know is human in origin and any human can change what that being is even if you don't like it. Cry more but dating elves is older than Tolkien or the Edda.
Half elves are the real reason why the Elf race is going to go extinct. They are endemic to a race that the gods said should eventually inherit the earth, its why humans reproduce so fast, they literally just breed out whatever they can't immediately conquer.
The fact that humans and elves can reproduce in a setting is basically the gods painless euthanasia for their elder races as they transition to a new age, preferable to the violence and bloodshed that it would otherwise mean. The funny part is, the elves know this and know they are powerless in the long run to stop it so just try to maintain their cultural heritage.
>he elves know this and know they are powerless in the long run to stop it so just try to maintain their cultural heritage.
Or an elf version of Hitler ascends the elven throne and enacts the extermination of half-elves in order to clean the gene pool and return the elf kingdom to it's former perceived glory.
Elves being resigned to their fate is such a gay fricking trope.
Friendly reminder that redditors hate elves and love every anti-elf trope.
Friendly reminder that redditors love dwarves and hate every anti-dwarf trope.
>Friendly reminder that redditors hate elves and love every anti-elf trope.
that's more of a Ganker thing.
Normies now love elves because of the recent animus with cutesy elf idiots (frieren and dungeon meshi)
>Friendly reminder that redditors love dwarves and hate every anti-dwarf trope.
True, but also true of Ganker
But if elves reproduce with humans, elf DNA survives, and elf culture survives
In part, yeah. Just like Neanderthals. But, its as sign that the races are probably intended to be united in one.
Just have half elves have babies with elves and make elves again
Half Drow and Drow make another Drow, and they're elves too
How do the genetics of that work?
25% human is less than 50% and that is less than half
that's how math works
Yeah it's entirely possible if there's enough elves that humans are the ones who end up "replaced" over time, it just depends on their population numbers and how things play out over time, you could end up with an all-half-elf society where neither is really present, a mostly human but some elf like Bretons in Elder Scrolls, or some elf broodmare could be having literally thousands of half-elf children over her lifespan that means humanity ends up overwhelmed by elven DNA over time
I houserule that half-elves are sterile. Same with half-orcs or any humanoid hybrid, really. This puts them in an interesting place since they've got all the benefits of Eunuchs without needing to cut their balls off.
On the flipside, you really don't want a half-elf heir. It's kinda like deciding to end your bloodline. Most hybrids are the result of flings or prostitution.
>they've got all the benefits of Eunuchs
What benefits are those?
No children. This makes them useful when dealing with harems since they can't impregnate the concubines or administration since they can't declare themselves king and start their own dynasty.
Anon, eunuchs can't get a boner. The "benefit" is to others, not themselves.
No one's gonna have a hot dude who can frick watch over their harem.
I know for a setting I want to make, elves are technically half-elves, being the descendants of human and fae pairings. Same with the drow but with hags instead of standard fae and generally less consensual.
No, the point of Aragorn and Arwen was to inject some more High Elvish heritage into the royal line once more. It's as tragic as any old couple dying where one partner can't accept it, since Arwen and her descendants become fully mortal.
It did separate Elrond from his daughter until the World ends but he's willing to accept that because he knows the marriage is fated and good to be, if Aragorn fulfills his destiny. Peter Jackson put a lot of pettiness and drama into the movies and made Elrond in particular look bad, but that's not the original character.
In my setting half-elves are both admired and seen as tragic. They are deliberately bred by the elven lords to provide elven forces with additional troops and to provide human nations with long-lived, well-educated leaders. The Elves hate this process, as it means parents outliving their children, but it's necessary because the world is caught in a pattern of cyclical crises. Elves are the only race long lived enough to see the cycles from beginning to end, and always have to help human societies rebuild or face getting over run by the forces of evil when the end of the current cycle comes.
Every half elf is viewed as a living sacrifice by the elves. Their elven relations are grateful to them, but can't get too attached without facing overwhelming grief. Humans admire the half-elves, but that just draws the half-elves into tragic relationships as they outlive friends, lovers, and even their mostly human children.
I think that half-elves would be better if which parent was human and which ones was an elf affected what traits they inherited, like with ligers and tigons. I’m thinking that the mother’s race should determine if they look more human or more elf for one, do you agree?
that’s the Elder Scrolls approach, children will be the mother's race but inherit traits of the father- and I think all races can interbreed with each other
>except Khajiit and Argonians- for obvious reasons
It's not actually known for sure whether or not Argonians or Khajiit can interbreed with men or mer, the Imperial University's study on the subject was inconclusive. Argonians are likely out since they're just uplifted lizards (although since "Argonians" are just differently shaped Hist according to the Hist they might be able to create hybrids with other hypothetical Hist-things), but I'd bet that Khajiit can have children with other species seeing as they likely have some ancestral connection to the Aldmer. Maybe whatever Azura did to turn the early, shapeshifting Bosmer into cats made them incompatible, but if Orcs are still mer enough to interbreed with men I don't see why an Ohmes and a Bosmer couldn't have children with a bit of effort and luck.
Also in The Real Barenziah there's a vague implication that Khajiit might be able to get Dunmer pregnant, but that's just a book so who knows.
Half elves should be nobility and royalty.
>verification not required
Why aren't there half-dwarves?
>posts anime
>doesn't post the flavor of the month anime that addresses exactly this and makes it a plot point
Dark Sun had those.
You're already bumping the frick out of that thread, plus Ganker has a thread for it too.
Half elves are inherently inferior to elves, only humans really care about them. And the more they mingle with humans, the more they'll be diluting their elven genes. Since they're also a small elite group in human society, they tend to get caught up in all sorts of political and dangerous nonsense that end up killing them
We throw half elves in the fricking bin.
It is funny how in war of the spiderqueen you get sentences like (badly rephrased from my memory)
>The creature also had green eyes, belonging to lesser races
And then you get Drow with green eyes
Or
>They were very tall because it was rumored they interbred with humans
And then you have tall Drow which do explicitly NOT belong to that family
I suspect that's why some Drow are lighter skinned than other Drow or blue or purple
Not sure about other elves, I know sun elves are way too racist for this
Moon elves and wood elves probably don't mind
I can say nothing about wild elves
I can only recall that actually being text and not subtext when it comes to Drow
Stupid half-elf, you can't draw a sword from your back.
Hmmmm. Since Drow are evil by nature, what are the implications of having half-drow children with a reformed drow lady? Will each kid have to be "rehabilitated"?
Elf Slave... Bride ~ what do?
Takes time to do that due to the chad-zak
cuddling with your pregnant drow wife while she's having mind-breaking orgasms from the babies killing each other in the womb...
Without the influence of an evil deity they might not murder each other in the womb. They might also not have the same extreme fertility as that was also a resuly of evil spider goddess trying to offset the mortality rate from all the backstabbing.
They'll either be no less fertile than any other human elf pairing or every pregnancy is going to be multiples.
The chad-zak is a biological function, moronic waifugay.
A biological function shared by no other type of elf. What else isn't shared by any other elf is spiderass Lolth who made them what they are.
If you think elves are that biologically malleable then fine, your shitty watered down drow waifu instantly loses her dark skin and white hair.
She's just a surface elf now because that's apparently what your basic b***hmade ass wanted all along anyways.
Drow converts and intermingling with the Dorfs is the reason for a renewed holy war against the Drow. It revealed that they were buttholes by choice and that's what attracted Lolth to them rather than them being afflicted and their actions being diminished responsibility.
The resulting spike in population from the half-breeds has provided the numbers for the war, a war fought most passionatly by the drow converts and their children.
The higher fertility wears off after a few generations but the origional stock live for a very long time. The "Silver Dorfs" are now their own fanatical ethnic group.
The tradwife and fanatical militant attitudes are reactions to the lingering poison of Lolth being fought against and directed contructivly respectivly. It'll never totally leave them.
>Dorfs
>Silver Dorfs
Wer already have underground dwarves
They're called the duergar, they're black and have white hair
>Also the deep gnomes are sort of the same
Man it sure is weird how all those underground races are some shade of blue or purple and have white hair
Duergar were already redundant. Dorfs already live underground.
Elves get an evil counterpart, humans get an evil counterpart, gnomes get an evil counterpart, so dwarves also get an evil counterpart, everyone gets one!
And then we go full circle and those evil counterparts get good counterparts
They already already did have an evil counterpart, gnomes.
elves were never evil, evil gnomes are called goblins
Didn't ask
>The "Silver Dorfs" are now their own fanatical ethnic group.
So they would just look like thick drow, right? Drow are already turbo manlets so dwarf blood is only going to make them a bit stockier, maybe slighty lighter skin?
I was thinking more pale skin due to dorf blood and living underground. Hair is usually silver, eyes are usually red due to a red pigment rather than a lack of color. Sometimes a genetic throwback will happen that has grey skin.
Silver dorf men can grow beards.
>dark skin is a punishment from the elven gods
that's some ol' BS
the dark elves (predecessors of the Drow) were always 'dark'; Corellon made them so they resemble Lolth
>back when they were a happy married couple with kids and her name was also different
then Lolth went full moron, tried to kill her hubby and dragged them all down to hell- I mean the 'underdark'
the Drow are called drow because it is from elvish and means 'traitor' or something- I think some older elves still call them 'traitor elves'- because they sided with Lolth in the great elven war (which had some specific term, but I forgot what it was)
>it is sort of like how the Decepticons are called the Decepticons, it comes from 'You're being deceived'
It is interesting because they originally were freedom fighters and Megatron was an underground fighter/miner who wanted to free his fellow worker drones
and somewhere during those odd 4 million years he lost his way and now they're the bad guys
>decepticons are ACKshully good guys!
>i.e. some homosexual comic book retcons that attempt to add hackneyed "nuance" to a simple good vs evil conflict
Cool, don't care
only the most chad fetuses survive the chad-zak, hence the name
Personally, I think Elf/Orc, Elf/Dwarf, and other racial pairings should be more common. If nothing else, it could make Half-Elves more interesting again.
all "half" races feel fricking stupid
how the hell did all these beings manage to stay as distinct races if they all can reproduce with everyone? It's not like with humans where people had distant common ancestors, and can realistically pass as different races, these fantasy beings have super different features and origin unless you make them "anime elves" who are just pointy girls.
I feel like it would make the hate half breeds get more justifiable if they are an extremely rare occurrence between partners. The fact two different species managed to successfully breed and produce a child would add to the whole idea of belonging to neither as the child would be almost alien like.
just play a half-drow: hated by the surface because most people are too dumb to figure out you're not actually fully drow, elves will shoot you on sight
hated by the underdark because you're a disgusting abomination, a walking symbol of depravity
the only way anyone will ever accept you is by praying to a giant spider goddess who will never answer your prayers
at least half-orcs have some level of respect amongst orcs because they're supposed to be smarter, half-drow are hated by everyone; they don't even make good spies
What if they needed magic of some kind, or a divine blessing, to produce fertile children?
Did you get chatGPT to come up with that one for you, slopgay?
My half-elf is a product of random hookup between human noblewoman and an elven envoy with mayfly fetish. She is human to the bone, doesn't care about "elven heritage" and only uses her elvish looks to con people who've never seen an elf.
Point being: frick you, I will continue playing half-elves.
Also, depends on setting. In Athas, for example, elves live at most 40 years longer than humans (usually less) and mature at the same rate, so literally nothing prevents elf-human romance except xenophobia from both sides.
Imagine a drow just parading her half-elf kid around like look b***hes my abominable spawn eats better than you lol. Just keeping the kid around as an insult to her social rivals.
imagine a drow just loving her half-elf kid so much like look at this wonder of the universe my child means everything to me lol. Just being around it swells her heart
>The race mixing and diminishment is a feature, not a bug
Anything else that goes for this?
Significant Dungeon Meshi spoilers:
Half-elves in DM are indeed outcasts with only a rough intermixing of the two species' positive traits. And due to two quirks of their biology, Elf and Human pairings are definitely tragedies. They can interbreed, but the offspring is always infertile, and for some reason the intermixing nearly doubles the child's life expectancy from its Elven parent.
One of the main characters, the Elf mage of the party, is revealed far into the story to actually be a half-Elf, and has accumulated tremendous childhood trauma as she's outlived her entire family and will never have one of her own. This drives her to take an adoptive role over a Human girl and go to extreme, self-destructive, and incredibly illegal ends to try and stave off her inevitable death.
>adoptive
Extreme levels of cope.
Cope?
Nevermind, it's because you're a hardcore yurigay, isn't it?
The manga ended already. There was no romance.
And we saw Marcille's type anyways, thanks to the succubi. It's Elven Fabio on horseback. Not mousey human shut-in farmgirls.
>Significant Dungeon Meshi spoilers:
Anon the manga has been running since 2014. If you haven't read it already and come across marcille being a halfie, you're a fricking netflix secondary and need to die now.
This seems to be a lot of cope about something that has existed since for just as long as the Thief class and variable hit dice in D&D.
The book says it’s there and that makes it part of the D&D genre of Fantasy literature.
Half breeds are great because they are the consequences of my human fighter's actions.
I will keep impregnating elven maidens and you cannot stop me knife ear cuck
Cringe.
when you cross a sea elf and a wood elf do you get a seaweed elf?
Those are the really important questions which don't let me sleep at night
>his game has more than one race of elf
Even better, all the sentient races are actually elves by a different name.
>wood elves
>wild elves
>sea elves
>shadar-kai
>drow (and all the drow subtypes-which is like four, if you also count the dark elves)
>sun elves
>moon elves
>ice elves
>light elves
>eladrin
>half elves
>elves with wings
I hope I haven't forgotten any
you gotta catch them all, it's like pokemon
Just like real life anon
Light Elves (also called High by Tolkien)
Dark Elves
Night Elves (just succubi really though)
Mountain Elves
Hill Elves
Field Elves
Sea Elves
Wood Elves
Wild Elves
Water Elves
image is just a pointy eared girl though
I'll use whatever image I goddamn well please when I post about elves be they in tg, lit or irl folklore. If I can't be happy, nobody can.
Noldorgay summoning ritual always succeeds
Follow the elder scroll rule. Elves hate them humans don’t care
>The Elf/Human pairing should be a tragedy, that was the whole point of Aragorn and Arwen.
Holy fricking shit not everything is LOTR
LOTR gays are so fricking obnoxious
Reminder that the most prominent half-elves in the Silmarillion were brothers. Elrond chose to be elven, and his brother Elros chose to be human and became the first king of Numenor.
Half Races were just a way to have a borning human with pointing ears or green skin and should have been treated the same way ass blasted shitters treat Tiefling.
they always have an identity crisis
they need therapy via by confession in the church. The local cleric gets exhausted but at least the half-elf has been guarding the village for 100+ years