The only rts I play is Age of Empires 2, it's nice but I think I am missing if I don't try other titles. Tried spellforce 3 reforced, great game but the MP is kinda dead. Recommend rts please and discuss various mechanics of rts in general
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Age of Mythology is better than AoE in every way
>abandoned
except physical
[drops crocos in your production]
Retold never ever
>in every way
Dont fall for this meme OP. not that AOM it's a bad game, its fricking great. But it's too similar to AOE to really give you a fresh experience.
This is a great recommend and will feel completely fresh to you, sci-fi, different engine, crazy scale. I made the exact same switch to subcom after a 1000 hours of aoe2 and it was great
Playing Norse or Atlanteans makes it rather unique in comparison.
Wh40k Dawn of War
Rise of Nations
Stronghold Crusader
Empire Earth 1
Most RTS worth playing are 10+ years old so their multiplayer will likely be kind of dead, or filled with people who played the game for longer than the average Ganker user was alive, so unless you have friends of roughly equal skill level, you'll likely not have a very good time of trying to play multiplayer in older games
AoE2 is an anomaly where the game inexplicably aged so well all a remaster had to do was update the engine & the graphics, which drew in a lot of both new and old players to revive the multiplayer scene. Not so with most other games, such as WC3 reforged being a disaster where pmuch only people who already liked and played WC3 for 20 years still continue to play it.
The only other RTS multiplayer that is genuinely 'alive' is starcraft but it's filled with sweats. Total War titles probably have their niche community but they've been going full morons with DLCs. Paradox games (CK2/EU4/VIC2/HOI4) definitely have their playerbase but I'm not sure I'd classify them as RTS, even though unlike many games in 4x / global empire management niche they are real time with pause rather than turn based.
Thanks guys, don't know how I didn't realize that I wouldn't really have a MP for most games
RTS got btfo'd by RTT.
>discuss various mechanics of rts in general
I really liked Dawn of War's teching up for Tau. You can build one of two buildings which give you access to different units and upgrades. Except only one of them gives you upgrades and they're really good... Thought that was a huge shame on top of no other race having such a choice.
But then I realized AoM is completely based on such teching up choices. Game ends up being incredibly strategic when you make a plan and adapt based on 1. which units you'll be making 2. which upgrades you want and 3. which god power will benefit you the most. And it's up to three times per match.
I hope future games will have something like that to make each match distinct and add more variety to playing any one race.
mmm... feet of the jackal...
Anubites are pretty neat RTS units
>Anubite core with Slingers support (offensive), plans for myth units on age 3
vs
>Spearman core with Snake support (defensive), plans on booming until age 4
Serpent Spear and Electrum Bullets are swapped in that image for some reason
Serpent Spear is most definitely a Ptah upgrade, it even shares the icon on the snake from the god power.
But is that from an update? I think I remember Ptah using shifting sands and Eclipse being a Sphinx god power.
Actually Anubis has the Plague of Serpents god power, Eclipse is on Bast, and Ptah has Shifting Sands
Must be like an early promo image or from the beta
If it's multiplayer against randoms you want, you're going to be extremely short on options. There are a few major titles whose gravity is so massive that other games don't get to thrive for long and everyone eventually ends up playing the likes of Starcraft or FAF where there are more people with more varied skill level. I hear some minor games have Dis*ord servers where people set up games when it's convenient, too.
I have been playing retro commander. It is a very simple RTS, but is fun to play as a very bad/casual RTS player.
Starcraft 2
Thats the only modern alternative
Although warcraft 3 is also being played yet despite blizzards efforts
Surprised no one mentioned Warhammer total war series. Has a great multiplayer scene. If you have to have old school Warcraft/C&C/Dune 2 resources-base-units, this isn’t it, but if you’re looking for strategy in real time, there is a ton of depth there with the dozens of different armies and comps, decently high skill ceiling, but relatively low barrier of entry. I’m no pro gamer but have defeated top guys who stream and enter casted tournaments and did so using off meta strats.
Haven’t played in a while, but enjoyed time I spent with the MP scene there.
That's interesting anon, the "Warhammer series" doesn't mean anything to me so could you point out specific games?
Multiplayer is going to be much more slimmer pickings compared to AoE, and are arguably going to be even more brutal to get into. Still, even for mucking around do consider:
>AoM
>Starcraft
>Warcraft 3 (not Reforged)
>Red Alert 2 (if you could only play one C&C)
>Dawn of War (+ xpacks; Soulstorm is skippable but decent for skirmishes)
>Supreme Commander
All good picks.
He means the Total War games based upon Warhammer Fantasy Battle. The IP technically has a few settings (40k, AoS, etc) but Creative Assembly has only covered that one.
Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
It's aged really well, multiplayer is still alive (FAF), and it's the most intuitive RTS you'll ever play.
Shame about the sequel though.
Is there a way to inverse camera scrolling in AoEII? It's backwards-ass way of moving in the direction your mouse is instead of just really click&drag is doing my head in.
Tried pic related and felt very similar but either is not properly optimized or needs a good pc because it made my GPU work like it was mining bitcoin or something. I was able to play it smoothly I just didn't want that
You can click and drag but is the right mouse button. I prefer using the mouse pointer and just making it faster
Cossacks is what I play. Unfortunately the remake is shit. There is a mod for the original that adds A LOT of nice features called the imperia mod. Good luck getting people to play MP with you though.
Why is bad? Is the original on steam?
WC3 is the best RTS ever made