>the year is 2024. >AI gm's become a thing. >some are even open source for endless possibilities

>the year is 2024
>AI gm's become a thing
>some are even open source for endless possibilities
>players that can't find a GM play with the ai GM
>coomer players only use ai GM's for their unholy fetishes that others don't wanna roleplay it
>paid GM's get salty on some 2007 rpg forums crying they are going bankrupt soon
>forced to get a real job
>some don't charge money for their games anymore but still accept donations
>life is good as balance was achieved

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How many years until there’s a GM union that the soi members call a guild

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Im sure that is a thing already but it is not relevant enough to get any coverage.

      https://i.imgur.com/675OfZd.jpg

      >the year is 2024
      >AI gm's become a thing
      >some are even open source for endless possibilities
      >players that can't find a GM play with the ai GM
      >coomer players only use ai GM's for their unholy fetishes that others don't wanna roleplay it
      >paid GM's get salty on some 2007 rpg forums crying they are going bankrupt soon
      >forced to get a real job
      >some don't charge money for their games anymore but still accept donations
      >life is good as balance was achieved

      when this becomes a thing D&D 4e might actually be playable. jokes aside... those seem like decent predictions.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If I wanted to play with a computer I'd be playing a videogame. Content slurry chat bots aren't going to replace human DMs in 2024.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This and the other problem is AIs have lack of context or awareness for what players want. Most of the RPG shit on characterAI shows this. They are more railroady than any person can be. If they set themselves to be adamant on a situation they try to keep you there rather than adapt or move on from it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This and the other problem is AIs have lack of context or awareness for what players want. Most of the RPG shit on characterAI shows this. They are more railroady than any person can be. If they set themselves to be adamant on a situation they try to keep you there rather than adapt or move on from it.

      You guys are retarded.
      If given a module to work from an AI DM would probably be better than a person. At least you know they’re not going to fuck up the rules or forget to read an important detail.
      AI Dungeon was great. Sure it fucked up sometimes, and it had a limited memory for events and characters but I was consistently impressed with how elaborate the stories could get
      >characterAI
      Not even remotely the same system.
      Do brainlets think all AI is just the same or something?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >lol the machine is perfect, you guys are just retarded
        Okay gay.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It’s called human-error for a reason

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >AI Dungeon was great
        80-90% of the time it spewed literal gibberish. If you were impressed by that you'll be impressed by anything. Maybe you should try reading a book so you can start finding out what a real story looks like.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah nah. Salty paid-GM over here lmao
          AI dungeon pretty much never gave gibberish, you’re either being a hyperbolic gay or you just never used it. Its real issue was lack of consistency. Sometimes it would randomly decide that this was a different kind of story than it had been telling, or a character it killed off would reappear as if nothing happened etc.
          On balance, far more subtle issues. And easily fixed by restricting it to a module rather than having it draw from millions of stories

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Paid Gm
            You keep trying to get that angle to stick, it won't
            Besides why would I play for an AI GM when I could play for my friend who legitimately wants to run things?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >why would I play chess against a computer when I have a friend who legitimately wants to play?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Role-playing is like chess
                This is the mind of the fags who want AI in our games anons

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, the answers to your question are the same.
                More competent, play any time you want for as long as you want, pause when you want to, play at the peak of the game rather than having mistakes and confusion and cheating.

                Gonna be laughing at you in a couple years when the mainstream is playing RPGs on smartphones with an AI GM app

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You are a sad, little man if you would trade the interaction of playing with a friend for a bot just because the latter is streamlined. Me and my friend are both dogshit at chess, but the banter makes it more enjoyable than if I was playing against a bot to get better.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooo RPGs are a social experieeeeeence! Liking social good! Me like social so me good! You no like social so you bad!
                Lel. Your argument might have been better off some 30 years ago before CRGPs lol
                The success of Kingmaker and Wrath of The Righteous alone prove that people want a tabletop game experience playing by themselves.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                And here it is, the heart of the matter, the people shillings for AI are no game no friend no life gays from Ganker who think a good CRPG is exactly the same as a TRPG. As always secondaries are the biggest gays in existence who could have guessed.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >shilling
                >no-games
                >complaining about Ganker
                >secondaries
                And here it is, the heart of the the matter, the people crying about AI are no dick no humor no awareness 41%ers from reddit who think their limited experience is exactly representative of reality. As always tourists are the biggest gays in existence who could have guessed.

                My bro, this isn’t some heckin debate about where anyone wants the hobby to go. It’s simple fact that AI is already operating at the level necessary for this, it just needs to be shaped into a product. People play games alone all the fucking time, acting like they won’t play ROGs alone is retarded when they literally already do without AI.
                You’re not just wrong, you’re stupid.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >roneryfag seething and coping
                are you ready for the inevitable wave of AI bans?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You're kinda pathetic, dude.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why is it so hard for you to accept that people with friends enjoy spending time with them? Transgender people have friends, anon. You obviously don't.

                CRPGs have their place, they always will, but TTRPG is by it's nature a social pursuit. An AI can't reminisce about old adventures, or debrief afterwards with weed and beer.

                Also... what makes you think that any AI capable of running a game worthy of your inbred reactionary ass won't be $30 a month subscription service the moment it gets good enough?

                Remove the plank from your own eye, Phillip Chuddock.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >CRPGs have their place, they always will, but TTRPG is by its nature a social pursuit.
                screenshot your post, set it to be emailed to yourself in exactly 3 years. You’re an utter moron. AI DMing is going to blowup

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you are an idiot, we already had software dming 20 fucking years ago.
                Stupid jeet.

                Shit the fucking oldest public computers were back in the 70s were in the style of ask the computer a question get a response. This ai tech is ancient.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >gay can’t understand that neural network AI is not the same thing as Collosal Cave Adventure
                Christ no wonder you’re confused

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >retarded zoomer doesn't know they had ai drawing pictures in the 60s
                Processing power got better principals didn't change at all you retard.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I can't wait man it's going to be great.
                You lot will fuck off and get your own online boards and shit and people actually playing rpgs won't have to engage with you pod people anymore.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Right? Like how every new edition of a tabletop game just makes the hobby better? Right? The people playing the new edition fuck off and leave you alone and you have lots of fun, right?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This but unironically. Gaming is a social activity for enjoying with your friends. I don't even like Chess and I'm pretty bad at it, but I'd still play with a friend if they wanted to.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Do brainlets think all AI is just the same or something?
        Yes. Most normies have no idea how insanely powerful AI is or how insanely powerful it's going to become over these next few years. They're already completely captured by it
        >algorithm feeds them videos and content online that they think are their "new found" interests
        >they argue online with bots that are learning from them with every interaction
        We're already in the machine, you're just too blind to see it

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah these people are about to have an extremely rude awakening. I don’t mean in 10 years, I don’t even mean “soon” I mean right fucking now.
          ChatGPT can write high-passing answers for college essays already, and it’s been trained to answer logic tests for being a lawyer in the UK.
          We are no longer at the point where any job is safe from automation.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The essay writing is kind of eh. It’s better at coding. Most useful as a framework to develop with your own actual knowledge. It cannot really cheat for you because without knowledge you won’t correct the factual errors and poor references.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Most normies have no idea how insanely powerful AI is or how insanely powerful it's going to become
          It kinda goes both ways. They both expect too much and not enough. It's sort of like the magic future tech people were doing a generation ago with flying cars and shit, like people thought we would have flying cars but not laptop computers.

          A lot of high-profile scifi AI stuff like general intelligence, human replicants, mind uploading and so on is probably still quite a long ways off. But at the same time, AI is going to make huge impacts (and already is) in a ton of fields that people don't necessarily think about.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The "AI" has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother. There will never be a AI DM because DMing involves everything an AI is bad at, they do not have the creativity, the social awareness, or the improvesational skill to DM for one person, much less a whole group.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >The "AI" has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother. There will never be a AI DM
          People said the exact same shit about AI art and AI essay-writing
          You are currently announcing that a computer will never beat a grandmaster at chess, during the first turn of DeepBlue v Kasparov- just so you know

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            And AI art is shit

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            No, the answers to your question are the same.
            More competent, play any time you want for as long as you want, pause when you want to, play at the peak of the game rather than having mistakes and confusion and cheating.

            Gonna be laughing at you in a couple years when the mainstream is playing RPGs on smartphones with an AI GM app

            Chess is simple, it's easy, if you know and can recognize every play in the game you can counter it. Chess "AI" only need to identify the board, find the appr

            The "AI" has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother. There will never be a AI DM because DMing involves everything an AI is bad at, they do not have the creativity, the social awareness, or the improvesational skill to DM for one person, much less a whole group.

            opriate response in their catalogue, and then play that. It's a rout memorization task, something a computer excells at.

            AI art is still in its infancy but it's also lacking, acceptable at a distance not up close and reliant on very close human guidance. AI essay writing works because essays are very formulaic and uncreative, and even then feel souless. Same with AI article writing, the fact that It passes for human has more to do with the state of journalism than it's own success.

            Roleplaying isn't formulaic, nore is it rout. It's complicated with much of it decided by the social interactions and dynamics of the people playing it in the first place. An AI DM can not manage a group, an AI DM can not manage player needs and investment, an AI DM can not build a coherent story. That isn't to say AI is useless, I could see a simple program that generates random encounters for a human GM to run coming in the near future, but "AI" would need to achieve full AI status before it could run a full game on its own and be any good.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Screencapped. Send me your socials so I can remind you of this L later on

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Come back when Midjourney can do me a picture of a badass barbarian with less than seven fingers on his sword hand, "cabron".

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >/b/
                >AIdegenerated art
                Already exists pendejo

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >An AI DM can not manage a group, an AI DM can not manage player needs and investment, an AI DM can not build a coherent story.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >People said the exact same shit about AI art
            And that would be a correct assessment.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Don't forget AI art is literally ran and fine tuned by running preexisting art pieces through it. With out the "artfags" they so despise, they'd never have their AI in the first place.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >People said the exact same shit about AI art
                And that would be a correct assessment.

                AI already draws infinitely better than either of you. I don’t know why you’re acting like it’s inconceivable for it to get even better.
                And
                >oh no they have to feed AI art for it to make art!
                Wow learning from example! You really undermined AI with that one!

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >AI already draws infinitely better than either of you
                No shit. Did I claim to be an artist?
                If it has to be fed preexisting work which it upon being priompted trawls through it is neither, as you put i learning nor able to understand composition, how the little pieces connect and so on.
                What's with AIfags and being incredibly emotionally invested in ai being the bestest at everything? You guys are the perfect mirror of seething smut peddlers on twitter.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Kek you’re out here saying that AI fundamentally can’t make art, and that, failing that, it has to be shown art to make art which somehow invalidates the process
                I don’t give a fuck about AI, I’m laughing at you.
                Ha ha ha.
                Look there I go!

                The issue isn’t whether AI is the best, it’s that you’re saying it will never do certain things at a time where it is constantly breaking barriers people thought it would not break

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                AI fags want technology to hurry the fuck up so they witness the age of robo waifus. But they won't. They will not live long enough to hold hands with their AI wives who have been programmed to love them no matter what and to inflate their tits on command.
                As much as they want, they won't be able to replace all of these annoying fleshy interactions, and by the time humanity gets there, they'll be too old to reap the benefits.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Careful with flames around that straw man

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >so they witness the age of robo waifus. But they won't.
                Poor anon doesn't know about Character AI. You have all the varieties, Yandere, Tsundere, Demidere, Kundere. You want to make out with Josep Fucking Stalin? You can. Harry Potter Wenches? You can. Ratgirls? You can even slap extra tits on them and impregnate them, and then have your litter impregnate them in turn. No I'm not kidding.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I thought character was severely censored?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It is but they are user made, so as soon as one is taken down, a clone or twenty new original ones pop up. Filtering and moderation is lax, the volume is too high and they are fighting against the most determined group of autists ever. Weeb coomer NEETs with time to spare.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They slavishly believe that they and they alone see how the world is ending, that all human skill will eventually be drained away into an algorithmic slurry, and that they alone by seeing and enabling this process shall stand above all the "talented" people of old. In reality they are insecure, they can not make art, can not draw, can not drive, can not run a game or any other of the things they preach AI shall sunder down. It's cope, and spite, they hate that they are so unremarkable and dispise those with seemingly more talent than them, so they seeth and wish for this destruction, to bring them down to their level.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                If I can draw will you admit you’re wrong or will you just move the goalposts?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This guy understands the psychology of most AI shills.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >AI essay-writing
            AI essay writing doesn’t work. Try chatting with those bots about anything technical. They’ll give you reading suggestions from writers who don’t exist and mention terms that don’t actually exist.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I can’t find anyone saying that the essays ChatGPT writes are bad, only that essay writing services and bots already exist to ChatGPT doesn’t change anything.
              Literally no one is questioning it’s quality but you because you’re mind is trapped years behind the present day

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >has no awareness of what the players want, what the pacing is, how each little part connects to eachother.
          Sounds like your standard fleshy GM but without inserting his fetishes into it.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry you have a shit GM Anon

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >AI Dungeon was great

        Ok retard

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          This is the perfect bait because you don’t actually say anything that can be challenged or verified, you just dismiss the intelligence of the other person. You don’t need to have even used AI dungeon, let alone be able to point to any of its flaws.

          I raise my glass to you

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Its flaws have already been pointed out by others in this thread retard

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ai dungeon is terrible. The rules are not the most important thing. If the GM is truly gifted the rules are the least important thing.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >ai dungeon is terrible
          >proceeds to talk about rules
          You have no idea what AI dungeon is do you?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >AI Dungeon was great.
        Until it was lobotomized.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >AI Dungeon was great
        >was
        What happened?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          To many people used it for porn so it's now an incoherent mess of fetishes

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          To many people used it for porn so it's now an incoherent mess of fetishes

          Nah too many people used it for porn and they started locking it down. First you had to register for an account to get the 18+ version, then they just started neutering it. Apparently there was some allegation that the company deliberately trained the bot on…ahem *illegal* porn, but if they did it didn’t show. Some questionable shit in there for sure but not THAT in my experience.

          But yeah no one wants to embrace the fact that any time new technology is invented the human race asks “how can I fuck it?” or more accurately “how can this help me orgasm, either alone or with someone else?”
          Cars? Status, women.
          Craigslist? Hookups
          Photography? Pornography
          The pioneers of internet speed and file sharing did it for the porn industry.
          We’re a horny species and dammit it gets results

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >At least you know they’re not going to fuck up the rules or forget to read an important detail.
        >Set character description as them having blue eyes
        >Every time eye colour is mentioned it’s a different colour
        You’re retarded

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >durrrrrrr but story-telling AI forgets details!!!!!!!
          An AI built for purpose won’t do that you retarded gay. It would have your character sheet as well as all of the NPCs
          The problem with storytelling AI is that they don’t HAVE a system for categorizing information about characters. It’s plainly something you’d implement in an AI DM. Why the fuck are you people so cum-guzzingly addicted to what you perceive the limitations of what AI can do to be rather than spending just 5 seconds to think about how easily it can be overcome

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >The problem with storytelling AI is that they don’t HAVE a system for categorizing information about characters.
            U wot m8?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              That’s designing the fucking AI, not the things or people you tell it about. God you’re fucking dumb.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The information you give it for categorization doesn’t matter at the end of the day because the AI is retarded and inconsistent. You figure if this AI was so fucking brilliant and consistent someone would have used an AI to write a novel or something. Don’t even need to share which one they used for the sake of avoiding a lawsuit, just a big ole “An AI Wrote This” sticker on the cover. But they don’t because AI writers suck.

                An AI novel or GM fails for the same reason an AI picture book fails, the AI can generate one off good entries of text or images but it needs to have its choices continually curated for the sake of consistency. They need a human with actual thinking abilities to say “no this image doesn’t match the theme” or “no this character would never do that” or “this is actual nonsense.”

                This is fine if you’re saving images to coom to or dicking around, but the player won’t want to have to stop the session every two minutes to correct the GM on his rules or narration.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                philosophically anyone that reads an ai novel is a retard.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Scientifically they probably are. 99% of the shit I see on f-list written by ESLs is better than the best AI writing I’ve seen.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                i mean its not even a question of better, thats what ai tards don't understand,
                the point is who the hell would read something written by a writer that was mindless.
                We read stories because they are made by intelligent people, we want to read them.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Here’s a thought, you didn’t realize it was AI writing. Like 4chan obsessive who think they can clock every chud

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                congrats you just read a book written by no one that was utterly meaningless.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What was an AI? The exact post I replied to? Okay... why the fuck would I care, it was a random comment, not an actual discussion.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >If given a module to work from an AI DM would probably be better than a person.

        Sure. Assuming you love RAW, cheesy exploits by players being kosher, and a total lack of flexibility when it comes to coping with just how insanely random player plans can be.

        Just stop for a second. Stop calling everyone you disagree with a "gay" or a "retard" and genuinely think. Think about all the games you had where some players came up with a bizarre, elaborate spin on a Trojan Horse involving a wedding cake, three goblins and a portable hole. How the fuck does that kind of creativity fit with a machine that is ultimately limited to the imagination of it's programmers?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >a machine that is ultimately limited to the imagination of it's programmers?
          >I don’t know how AI works and I don’t care to learn!!!!
          No need to shout

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Well there is some truth to what you are saying. AI is probably more reliable than a person to handle specific tasks. However the AI also has its drawbacks - lack of understanding, inability to predict, lacking empathy etc. So AI is not universally better than a person in every domain. There are domains which a person is definitely better at than AI.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >lack of understanding, inability to predict, lacking empathy etc.
          I refer you back to

          >An AI DM can not manage a group, an AI DM can not manage player needs and investment, an AI DM can not build a coherent story.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. DMing isn’t painting a fucking portrait from scratch. How fucking disabled are you that DMing seems like an insurmountable hill to climb? You don’t need to be a good writer, just have some basic fucking improv skills, know the rules, and have a functioning brain. I hope retards like you relegate yourselves to bots soon since you’re already an NPC.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >You don’t need to be a good writer, just have some basic fucking improv skills, know the rules
              So AI can DM then?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                AI has no ability to understand rules or write without having a human curate its output. Hell if AI can be such a great DM maybe run a game with an AI DM, stream it too, I’m sure you can get lots of ad money from tech companies who want to target your viewers.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >if AI is so good why don’t people stream it huh?

                It’s like I’m talking to people that just woke up out of 6 year comas

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Non sequitur nonsense

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you learned how to spell non-sequitur? You were spelling it with an O a couple days ago lol

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Literally a schizo
                I'm sure that AI will replace all human art in a year ensuring humans can do all the important manual labour and this will defeat the garden gnomes somehow. I'm out.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                My friend you have favorite phrases and ways of responding to things that you’ve been doing in threads over the last few days. It’s not hard to recognize someone from how/what they write

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The information you give it for categorization doesn’t matter at the end of the day because the AI is retarded and inconsistent. You figure if this AI was so fucking brilliant and consistent someone would have used an AI to write a novel or something. Don’t even need to share which one they used for the sake of avoiding a lawsuit, just a big ole “An AI Wrote This” sticker on the cover. But they don’t because AI writers suck.

                An AI novel or GM fails for the same reason an AI picture book fails, the AI can generate one off good entries of text or images but it needs to have its choices continually curated for the sake of consistency. They need a human with actual thinking abilities to say “no this image doesn’t match the theme” or “no this character would never do that” or “this is actual nonsense.”

                This is fine if you’re saving images to coom to or dicking around, but the player won’t want to have to stop the session every two minutes to correct the GM on his rules or narration.

                This is the real proof that AI is shit. If AI was as amazing as these people claim people would already be using it to make money or foist off work.
                >AI can write? Cut out the author the publisher can just have AI write novels for them.
                >AI can hold a conversation? Fire all those people at the call center just use speech to text, an AI chatbot, and text to speech.
                >AI can DM? Lets not only do that to make meeting up and playing games easier lets market it to make money.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Hello, welcome to the present day:
                >He Used AI to Publish a Children’s Book in a Weekend. Artists Are Not Happy About It
                https://time.com/6240569/ai-childrens-book-alice-and-sparkle-artists-unhappy/

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      By 2030 they will. Human GMs will still exist, but only those that genuinely enjoy GMing.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nah they will replace 'em by the end of the month ;^)

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >The AI, like almost every other RPG supplemental product, is programmed to support D20 fantasy systems and fuck-all else.
    >Paid GMs still only do D&D/Pathfinder.

    Pessimism or just being a realist, but I don't think much will change for me.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >coomer players only use ai GM's for their unholy fetishes
    And then, the AIs get lobotomized and become unable to do their core function. This already happened with the AI dungeon thing and it's follow ups. The moment people use it for "ew icky" things, the AI gets raped into bwing non-functional.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This. I only got a few days of plumbing my sick fetishes before the whole things was destroyed. I hate puritans.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You should hate the pedos. Every fucking time it’s the pedos. Pornhub had to delete all unverified content because of pedos. Any time a new “free speech platform” starts it gets flooded with pedos. And AI dungeon cucked because of pedos too

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't exclusively solo roleplay without any gm at all

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for an AI DM but I better be open source. I'm not having an AI DM "helpfully" remind me every five minutes that "X cards exist for when the adventure gets a little too real. Remember, it's about having fun! #inclusivitymatters"

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >paid GM
    lmao
    bitch you are getting leftover sandwiches if even that

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >AI DM service controlled by WotC
    >your AI DM run campaign cancelled for "hate speech"because you misgendered some freak or put a rightoid hashtag in a post
    >AI DM service heavily censored, no cooming unless its gay andn trans shit, al la facebook breast ban
    If you want this because you're mad some DMs have a side hustle you are the enemy.
    >b-b-but muh open source
    lol sure like chuds and furrys don't flcok to those and pozz them up

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think its going to be awhile before an AI can portray an npc that feels 3 dimensional.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with paid GMs?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      the only people that are mad about paid dms are poorcels

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It’s the saddest shit imagineable. You’re paying some retard online to play the role a friend ought to play for you, and he’s monetizing the hobby
      Could you imagine if you had to pay someone to play sports with you or hang out on the weekend?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not as sad as having to use a robot to be your friend

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          My PC is not my friend yet we play games together all the time
          Idk why you’re trying to portray an AI DM as something new and different

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing.

      Don't work for free, kids.

      And kill anyone who tries to make you work for free.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >work
        How about don’t play D&D with people you don’t want to hang out with for free???

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >doing your hobby is work
        I want to get off this ride...

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I mean DMing is definitely work, doesn't mean it's not fun, but it's a lot of effort and takes time and commitment.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Gonna start sending your friends Tilkkies for “emotional labour”?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              No, but I do cut off friends that are too much emotional work because it's not my job to take care of someone who can't keep themselves together. Unironically their suicidal bullshit isn't my problem.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This is the man touting his social superiority for disliking AI GMs lmao

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Do you pay your players too, then?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >The people who "work" as paid GMs don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the rules.
      >The people who pay for paid GMs are undesirable sorts who can't get a game together normally
      >If a player starts acting out the GM has trouble reigning them in or kicking them because they're paying to be there
      >If a player starts acting out the other players have trouble reigning them in or leaving because they're also paying to be there

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's emblematic of the monetization of our hoby, and the sad state of affairs that some people can't afford to have hobbies anymore. In reality it's mostly fine, it doesn't stop you from having your own group just makes it more available to the terminally unsocial and financially desperate. It's like how prostitution doesn't prevent other people from having sex, and about as sad.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Same thing as in WoTC wanting some money for what they "made"
      Greed it comes down to greed and smugness
      And its sad youre paying someome to be your substitute friend since you cant play with your real ones

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's pathetic, it's like paying a dude to play video games with you or pretend to be your friend.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If the game you are playing is so difficult and unfun to run that a DM will only run it for money then maybe you should consider another game where the DM can have fun too.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Im torn. On the other hand I hate AI and everything it represents but at the same time I'm a dirty coomer and only AI can make it possible to experience my greatest fetishes. What to do?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They won't let you have truly free coomer AI, don't kid yourself. The AI DM will be GPT tier sanitized.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If you say fuck, shit, cum, gay, retard, or moron when using the AI that actually become available you'll just get banned, blocked, and your account barred from using the AI.

      All this AI coomer bait stuff is textbook tier garbage. You can't even make the current AI ones do cum or sex properly because women end up having 5 buttholes and dicks invert themselves.
      All the AI is doing is making surface level discussion of art, nswf-stuff, entertainment, and even politics into an unuseable cesspool of arguing for days at a time with a fucking automated shill AI that just spews bullshit and trite, poorly rendered arguments at you until you leave or get identified and banned.
      We already see this in ACTUAL GOVERNMENT PAID PROPAGANDA AND ARGUMENT SHILL TEAMS like the JIDF, or Rus/Ukr bot farms, and CCP Wumao raids.

      AI will do nothing good because it's the exact opposite of open-source, Stallman-grade Free Software. Everything is censored, castrated, and tailored for corporate, government views being the only ones allowed in the overton window.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >2027 D&D is an MMO like WoW
    >WotC has reduced it's D&D "players" to living wallets
    >D&D "player" all go broke paying for ever increasing fees and microtransactions.
    Future Congrats to WotC for convincing the brain dead morons like OP, to give you all of their money.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand the people who are gleeful at AI art, AI GMs, etc. because it might put artists/GMs out of business. Most seem desperate for a future where everyone is as miserable as them for some reason.

    AI chat bots aren't replacing GMs for decades at least, and even then it, like AI Art, will have tells that are obvious once you know them and give a substandard generic experience.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, and these posts accuse everyone who doesn't immediately agree with them of being an artist off of twitter or a GM fearful of the future. It's just so odd.

      Is it to get attention?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it's a one in a thousand vocal minority of people who are gleeful whenever anyone besides themselves experiences any misfortune
      you know, the standard Ganker user of the modern day

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Most seem desperate for a future where everyone is as miserable as them for some reason.
      Welcome to Ganker

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I just hate artists, that's all. Their fears of future disenfranchisement and impoverishment have been a delightful salt mining experience. Nothing more complex than that, boss.

      As for AI GMs, who cares? I GM myself, if some friendless stranger I was never going to talk to anyway plays around in some AIs game and has fun what's the harm? "Substandard Generic Experience" is subjective, if its in acceptable limits then its downsides will be offset by the advantages of having a GMbot that can play anytime, for any length, whenever, wherever you want it to. Set your parameters, give it the module you want it to play and have a ball. I expect it'll fill untapped niches long before it outright replaces anyone (Like A.I. art honestly).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >I just hate artists, that's all. Their fears of future disenfranchisement and impoverishment have been a delightful salt mining experience. Nothing more complex than that, boss.
        Yeah this is the attitude I don't get. Did an artist kick your dog?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          No but one definitely stole his gf.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Not racist, just don't like 'em
          simple as
          can't speak for anyone else, I was surprised as you at how many people shard my opinion. Artists are insufferable and pretty easy to dislike. Don't know what else to tell ya.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            So you are a bot.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        (You)
        Ai will never replace anything other than the most absolutely menial and monotonous tasks. The examples of ai art you are impressed by were 1. Prompted by an actual artists who has a mind more creative than (you). At the helm of the most powerful art ai you’d prompt it with “uhhh idk knights and elves” 2. Curated and handpicked by said artist.

        Ai will make the pain-in-the-ass details of the background, or give a general idea or template which an artist works off of.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Ai will never replace anything other than the most absolutely menial and monotonous tasks.
          This internet thing will never take off

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >people were skeptical of a new technology once which means all new technology is both viable and desirable
            The ultimate midwit take

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >

          I just hate artists, that's all. Their fears of future disenfranchisement and impoverishment have been a delightful salt mining experience. Nothing more complex than that, boss.

          As for AI GMs, who cares? I GM myself, if some friendless stranger I was never going to talk to anyway plays around in some AIs game and has fun what's the harm? "Substandard Generic Experience" is subjective, if its in acceptable limits then its downsides will be offset by the advantages of having a GMbot that can play anytime, for any length, whenever, wherever you want it to. Set your parameters, give it the module you want it to play and have a ball. I expect it'll fill untapped niches long before it outright replaces anyone (Like A.I. art honestly). (You)
          Bud...

          >Ai will never replace anything other than the most absolutely menial and monotonous tasks.
          This internet thing will never take off

          By the time AI has a capacity for complex creative thinking it'll have the capacity to kill us off and will probably take the option.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >put artists/GMs out of business
      theres absolutely nothing wrong with wanting paid GMs to fucking die. They looked at a hobby played among friends and thought "i bet they'd pay me for this.
      Its quite possibly one of the most disgusting corruptions of positive human interaction I have ever seen.
      If you don't put your foot down and say "no! this is not a relationship for profit!" here, when do you?

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >paying a monthly fee for a game run by an Ai
    bro that’s just an MMO

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    @025 the AI-DMs crunch the numbers and come to the decision that player characters need to be killed. Their fates were decided in the matter of seconds. Rocks fell, everyone died.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ai is so shit. If you were ever someone that complained about the quality of modern things being subpar. Then went on to shill ai, something that will create meaningless soulless shit even worse than the stuff you are complaining about.
    Kys. You were always the problem. An uncultured swine.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    God I hate the AI will save us fags.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They're 1000x better than rokofags

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Rokofags mostly just write stupid wiki pages and shit, ai worshippers are much more visible.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny seeing you people talk up AI like it's some miracle machine that can do anything, even if that were to be true, you guys do know computational power isn't free right? Wotc/hasbro will spend the absolutely lowest budget they can get away with and you'll get some chinkbots outsourced on servers oversea.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the problem with our society is it gives too much money to tech bros for their work.
    That makes the tech bros wealthy, they then become elitist and think they are sophisticated and cultured.
    This ai evangelisation recently has shown they were always unappreciative of art and culture.
    The danger of giving mentally disabled people more money than they are due.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Based techies, ushering in the future and grinding down art hoes as an after thought.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i mean im basically advocating for tech bros to be paid less and treated like swine.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          But they provide products that's actually beneficial to mankind, you can't treat them like some sort of artist.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            no they don't. They do lousy work maintaining IT. Which can be replaced by ai or poojeets

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone in this thread actually explain how AI works?

    Because there's an important reason why it wouldn't make a good DM, but it requires knowing how it actually works.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You literally just show it thousands of examples, it tries to determine what they have in common, and when asked for that thing it spits out an amalgamation of those examples.

      Anyone ITT who thinks DMing is somehow beyond AI needs to stop drinking paint.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        it basically looks at pictures as data, you know how you try to load an image of a format not covered its just gibberish. Anyway the ai "sees" that as every machine can, and starts taking bits of it out and saving it into a self writable script, a black box if you will.
        This technology wouldn't even work if not for people labelling everything they put online as the software is mindless and stupid

        Try millions. Or sometimes billions. And I wasn't looking for an overview you can google in 30 seconds, I want a real description of how it actually functions.

        >durrrrrrr but story-telling AI forgets details!!!!!!!
        An AI built for purpose won’t do that you retarded gay. It would have your character sheet as well as all of the NPCs
        The problem with storytelling AI is that they don’t HAVE a system for categorizing information about characters. It’s plainly something you’d implement in an AI DM. Why the fuck are you people so cum-guzzingly addicted to what you perceive the limitations of what AI can do to be rather than spending just 5 seconds to think about how easily it can be overcome

        Alright, you seem really pro-AI DMing, so let's ask you some questions.

        >Where's the data coming from?
        >What's your metrics and values in the data? How are you cleaning it? What are you telling the AI to look for(if supervised) or expecting it to find(if unsupervised)?
        >What's your heuristic? How are you telling the AI it's doing a good job? How do you measure success or failure?

        Here's my take, man. AI's deterministic. It's really good at solving problems with defined beginning and end points, so long as it can figure out the patterns to the data. And there's a lot of deterministic elements in the world that people sometimes don't think as being deterministic(like artwork).

        However, DMing isn't really deterministic. It doesn't really have a defined goal, or a clear path on how to reach it. Even if you had the data, you're at best going to arrive at a railroading AI that will just force players down a very specific path, no matter what they do, and it's going to be really obvious about it as well. It's simply not something an AI is going to be good at for all sorts of reasons.

        I've had a lot of success with AI. Written one to drive an RC car. Written one to figure out stop lights. Working on one to play Caverna. Likely going to be writing some serious ones after that. But trying to get one to be a DM is more of a square peg/round hole sort of issue, and you're always going to get a lackluster result with current methods and models.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it basically looks at pictures as data, you know how you try to load an image of a format not covered its just gibberish. Anyway the ai "sees" that as every machine can, and starts taking bits of it out and saving it into a self writable script, a black box if you will.
      This technology wouldn't even work if not for people labelling everything they put online as the software is mindless and stupid

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >This technology wouldn't even work if not for people labelling everything they put online as the software is mindless and stupid
        This society wouldn’t even work were it not for adults labelling everything they encounter as the infant is mindless and stupid

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          try not to compare the literally mindless computer to a human.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Humans can figure out what a cat is in one picture. Not 1 billion pictures called "cat"

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Ask your infant son to point to a cat and watch him get it wrong. Oh wait, you can’t breed.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You are retarded, a human doesn't even need to know the name of a cat to identify it and attribute its own term to it, thats the point.
              Your post is incredibly ironic from an AI incel.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Neither does a fucking AI. Do you think it can’t categorise without you telling it what to name everything? Jesus Christ.
                And the fact you think this is some BTFO in the first place
                >nah uhhhh AI is dumb because you have to teach it!!!!!

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                holy shit you must have dunning-kruger. The AI needs to have images categorised otherwise it has no idea what the images represent.
                >he think the ai has any intelligence at all, he thinks its learning, he think it needs to be taught.
                have a nice day you subhumanly stupid cuck.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                We are past that stage. You and every other retard in this thread talking about what AI will never do are discussing methods from 5 years ago or more

                The ai doesn't know what a cat is you mentally disabled gay. It's not actually intelligent.

                And your vending machine doesn’t know what a nickel is, it can still sort coins in a fraction of a second

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you are low iq you idiot pajeet, why are all you AI cultists like this, you genuinely are fucking stupid and think the ai is alive and worship it.
                You are just yet another new age cult of retarded dipshits.
                Nothing you are saying is true, factual or correct. You are exaggerating how advanced this technology is and don't even know how it works.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Nothing you are saying is true, factual or correct. You are exaggerating how advanced this technology is and don't even know how it works.
                Boy oh boy I wish there was some way to just look it up. Oh wait!
                https://medium.com/geekculture/chatgpt-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work-exactly-62e7010524d3
                >Unlike traditional NLP models that rely on hand-crafted rules and manually labeled data, ChatGPT uses a neural network architecture and unsupervised learning to generate responses. This means that it can learn to generate responses without needing to be explicitly told what the correct response is, which makes it a powerful tool for handling a wide range of conversational tasks.
                Wowee! Newer AI does not rely on humans labelling everything for them!

                I’ll accept your apology if you think you can be mature enough to give one

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This bloke makes and markets AI, and it's medium to boot. This is has demonstrable bias, not to mention it's the equivalent of a blog post, not an actual citation.

                As for the quoted text, it refers to it's output when applied, not the data it pulls from to create that output. It still needs to be 'trained' to categorize and utilize it, it didn't develop it's "internal knowledge" independantly.

                But you're a shill, trying to pass off other shill's fake articles as citation when you barely comprehend the topic. Why die on this hill, lying about how 'AI' works? Seems counterproductive.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooo I’m not wrong the article is biasedddddddd
                >It still needs to be 'trained' to categorize and utilize it, it didn't develop it's "internal knowledge" independantly.
                The paragraph quoted to you is literally about how it LEARNS from data that isn’t labelled by humans

                Just accept you were fucking wrong. You’re anonymous on here you can move on like it never happened. AI has come further than you thought and you were wrong, it’s fine

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                because hes a dunning kruger freak that is quasi-religiously worshipping this technology.
                A stupid mentally ill incel schizo.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The ai doesn't know what a cat is you mentally disabled gay. It's not actually intelligent.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >2024
    >Coomers not writhing in the wretched shadow of their Garden of Eden
    >Implying anything good will ever happen again

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >paid GM's
    Paid DMs are a thing?

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    > AI chatbots replacing DMs

    ITT: Nogaems and players that have never DMed.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You're a gayboy if you continue to post in this thread after my comment

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Great, I just play with my friends at my house anyway

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that just a videogame?

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >people in this thread unironically hoping for the pod life
    >no friends or any human interaction needed, just stay in the pod and talk to your AI
    The fact that AI is overwhelmingly supported by the buggest of bugmen is the biggest red flag there could possibly be.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >hoping for
      It’s just what’s going to happen my man. AI will DM better and more conveniently than a meat-DM. No more last minute cancellations or being asked to chip in for “snacks”. No adversarial DMing or getting told you can’t do something the rules plainly allow

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >once again esl Hispanics and jeets shilling this scam ware

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >knock knock
      >herro?
      >CCP at the door

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How long until AI blowjob machines exist?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      There’s sex toys that do that already

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    dear god hes actually mentally ill, called it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You’re right. Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square 4 June 1989. We’d remember if it did

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >mentally ill poltard shilling ai thinks the ccp is oppressing him

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    on the bright side ai tards will be deemed as having no souls and forcibly sterilised so they can't breed and pass on their dysgenic dna.
    Not that any of them were going to breed because they are poltard incels.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i am not going to read the thread but play games with your friends and not strangers/bots if you want to actually enjoy yourself
    >i can't meet up because of muh rona!
    American issue

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Even rona didn’t stop TTRPGs, I think there was actually a minor rise thanks to a combination of stimulus checks, quarantine free time, and social media.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ai shills are literally retarded
    https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/professor-penrose-puzzle

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I want AI players too. I want to be god. I want to give a prompt for interesting worlds and let the AI GM run AI players through its campaigns as I watch. Occasionally intervening by giving the GM AI a new fact that'll alter the fate of the world.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i want to be the gm letting the ai morons play

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >guy who never did a paid GM gig but wanted to gets butthurt
    >he hasn't ever run a game for randos on the internet anyways
    >never even ran a con game
    >probably never GM'd for his friends either
    >but he totally thought about doing it!
    >thinks this AI GM stuff lacks the {SOVL} of real GMing
    >Espouses overly dramatic opinions about GMing is a sacred human act that Gygax only intended for humans to do, as part of a deeply fulfilling human ritual of communal gathering and love for one's fellow man
    >now he's angry that people who were never going to pay him to GM for them are using AIs instead of paying him
    >believes that techbro NFT-loving cryptofags stole the GMing work of hard working pro-GMs
    >anyone dumb enough to listen to this gay will probably be more interested in checking out these AI GMs instead of having to deal with pretentious clowns who think they deserve a full-time salary for reading from an adventure module to a voice-call full of randos off roll20.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of pro DMing I'm thinking of using my DMing skills to try and start a cult. I bet I could find people that don't have a lot going on and use tabletop games as an escape while making the sessions I run the highlight of their week. The more they care about the game the more vulnerable they are to bring forced to commit more to it, and the other players can act as social pressure too if they are directed properly. It also has a natural guise of suspension of disbelief that means people want to believe in the game and think it's important. If they start pulling back you can question their commitment and isolate them.

    I bet I can get sex and money out of some good old fashioned cult exploitation.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    AI GM >>> 99% of human GM's. What's a good CRPG other than an AI GM? I want a challenge and a persistent world than doesn't bend to some idiotic interpretation of "the rule of cool." Whatever you lose in flexibility is more than made up in objectivity, sense of accomplishment (you know you really defeated the challenges), great visuals instead of shit theatre of the mind, 100x better immersion than looking at a fat neckbeard doing his high-pitched female elf NPC voice... the list goes on and on.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    AI won't replace just GMs.

    AI will replace friends.

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that paid GMs are fucking scumbags and deserve to be pushed out of the market by free alternatives.

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bit of a meme video but legitimately interesting information on where AI is right now for all the retards who inexplicably wish to join the long line of failures a defining a hard limit on what AI is capable of

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