>there are people here who play civ and other 4x games exclusively in tactical view
What's even the point? It ruins all the immersion and turns the game into a spreadsheet simulator
>there are people here who play civ and other 4x games exclusively in tactical view
>spreadsheet simulators are... LE BAD
Yes.
Because?
If you can play a game with relatively immersive and pleasant visuals: why play with simpler graphics devoid of character?
Ok, thats a fair argument
Not really.
>immersive
Why do you guys talk like corporate salesmen?
Why do you consider any sort of praise to be a marketing department pitch? Are you by chance a Gankertard?
Autism
Because I want to?
civ 5's aesthetic is unironically hideous
come on, art deco ui was pretty
wrong
The leaders looked the most frickable
The terrain graphics is pretty ugly, I agree
>bro get immersed in this completely non-immersive fourecks
>he doesn't have an imagination and needs shiny pictures
I bet you don't read books and have aphantasia
In Civ 5 case, it's because the game's so hideously unoptimized and for common PC of the time ending the turn on tactical view could save you minutes on cluttered map.
Civ 5 tactical view looks pretty good
>turns the game into a spreadsheet simulator
Just like 80% of games /vst/ plays
>It ruins all the immersion
immersion into what?
Immersion of playing a slightly less ugly board game, apparently.
With 5 it's not even less ugly.
This.
Since Civ 4 the whole game turned into a meta min-maxing already, the feeling of larping as a ruler of nation is long gone.
Come on, this is bait
Civ 1-3 don't even have a proper diplomacy system, if anything Civ 4 was the one that swayed away from the spreadsheet formula
Literally the whole gov-civic system except for slavery is just some bonuses with nothing special at all.
It's the toastergay way
>Immersion
Dude. Who cares? Why do zoomers think all games should be immersive?
It presents information without clutter or pointless animations. You can zoom out and get a high level overview of your empire in all aspects in a way you can't in 3d view. Once you've played the game a few times, you can play it in your mind and the shit animating around on the screen is just wasting your time. Icons and counters are the way to go in any large scale strategy game.
I love strategic mode. Mainly for this . Getting a fresh perspective for settling a new city is immensely helpful when planning.
Also, I see it as basically mandatory in Civ 6, because the lighting and angle of camera in that game makes it really hard to see shit, but 5 looks fine without. Also, the art for 6 strategic mode is beautiful and it actually looks like a boardgame
You're just admitting the gameplay is just a spreadsheet simulator (and that you require pretty pictures to make spreadsheet simulators fun).
>What's even the point? It ruins all the immersion and turns the game into a spreadsheet simulator
Oh noo! People actually play video games to win, rather than do half-assed roleplay solo sessions with their head turned off?
>What's even the point? It ruins all the immersion and turns the game into a spreadsheet simulator
Strategic view looks fine, not sure what's the issue.
It's not like the previous games were unplayable even though they essentially had that level of detail in the tiles.
I like looking at spreadsheets and maps. Problem?
They can't run it in proper view and anything else is cope
>implying i wouldn't play a good 4x game even if it were literally built in microsoft excel
A lot of people who play strategy games are genuine turbo autists who are only interested in the abstract competitive part of the game and nothing else. Its why the genre died since the turboautists pushed out anyone not on their level of autism.
Civ VI is literally unplayable with its current graphics, even with a “realistic” graphics mod. I turned it off before finishing my first turn. Thankfully I purchased the game 75% off
I hope the next Civ game makes standing armies incredibly punishing on your gold and tries to encourage deeper diplomatic play.
Maybe with some more complexr 4x game it would be good to play in tactical view, but playing a game as shallow as civ for just the mechanics? IMO it's not worth it unless I get to admire my comfy-looking empire.
Used to do it on an old computer so it'd run better. Also, not everything is about graphics zoom zoom.