FIX THE ITEMIZATION IN DIABLO 4 YOU MISERABLE homosexualS, STOP DEFLECTING, IT'S THE ENTIRE REASON TO PLAY THE GAME OR A FOUNDATIONAL PART OF A VIDEO GAME THAT HAS TO FRICKING WORK WELL, LEARN YOU USED TO BE GOOD AT THIS
>YOU USED TO BE GOOD AT THIS
no, they never were
D2 was blizzard north, almost the entire team was let go ~2005
meanwhile blizzard made WoW, which codified the "ilvl is the only stat that matters" standard of itemization that poisons every loot-based game to this day
...no it isn't. when your ilvl isn't at the centre of things it means that you can have a very very good item that is of lower ilvl. it won't ever be perfect when affix tiers are level locked and they usually are but it can be very good and workable still.
when everything is decided by the ilvl with the bases scaling alongside it it means you will have to frequently drop your well rolled items for higher ilvl random trash just for the base stats alone like damage or armor or whatever. it means there's no itemization throughout leveling since you swap items so frequently and all you care about is base type fitting your character and ilvl being as high as possible, looking at affixes is just a waste of time, whether they're good or bad it's a minor part of things and the item is going to be discarded very soon for higher ilvl anyway. it also means that come endgame every good item you could've gotten throughout campaign or whatever lower level activity there is isn't just non-optimal, it's downright useless because it lacks the base stats.
What you are talking about is sadly outdated design that they deliberately eschew nowadays. The goal is to have everyone on the same level of content so there's no separation and people are never "forced" to run what would be outdated content for themselves just so that someone in the group can get an old, but still, relevant item.
The way it is now, every patch replaces all previous content with a new tier, and that means bringing everyone up to the new level and having ilvls jump hard enough to justify the new shit over old drops, no matter how powerful those effects were. You have people outright b***hing and moaning when an old tierset sims higher than a new one. It's a deliberate choice and, unfortunately, what the entire game is designed around now.
You can get something sort of similar by playing a lvl 20 twink, which is what I do with most of my WoW time. You use items all across 9 expansions to eke out as much as you can, even resorting to lower lvl items to get specific enchants on them or dungeon quest drops for their baseline gem sockets.
It's also really fun just oneshotting dungeon bosses and being accused of hacking.
This is incorrect. Ilvl did t become king until a few patches before burning crusade. In original WoW you could get by through knowing which stats benefit your class, granted a full set of high ilvl epics could have had the raw stats to make up for subpar stat combination but a slow blue weapon was always better than a fast purple weapon for instant attack damage, for example
stop fricking playing blizzard games, its never (repeat, NEVER) going to get better >you used to be good at this
homie you fricking KNOW that none of the same people who made the games you love are working there anymore
>used to be good at this
By pure fluke. Did you think this downgrading studio who no one wants to even hire into now was going to learn from past mistakes?
Surely this time
shit...
Well surely this time
shit...
Oh, this time it's finally getting fixed
shit...
This time is it totally, we're so fricking back
shit....
They should have gone with the "Nzoth won in BFA and Shadowlands and Dragonflight was a dream" twist, because it would make much more sense for an underground themed WoW expansion
You could do it a ton of ways but the end-goal would be to reach a "reset" to essentially recon everything post-vanilla, probably before AQ40 except the old gods wouldn't be an issue anymore and the story can head to a different direction since a lot of big names would be dead or locked away like the Jailer and Sargeras
>Nzoth slowly corrupting all of Azeroth and turning them into his black empire >all of Kalimdor has been taken over >new Horde capitol in Silvermoon >Alliance and Horde banding together not to become tentacle mind slaves >have to go into Kalimdor which is now an eldritch hell to defeat N'zoth who has manifested his physical self in what used to be Orgrimmar, think the visions of N'zoth x10000
It literally writes itself.
I would have the expansion start off with an expedition to Kalimdor as the sailors talk giving us the revelation the heroes were defeated and about to go insane when Wrathion seeing what's happening swallowed them all to protect them from the worst of N'zoth's influence (remember the black dragon scales were what gave the cloak insanity resistance) and so Wrathion sacrifices himself going completely mad while the heroes live on inside him only half insane dreaming the story of SL and DF, you could have the expedition then sight a corrupted Wrathion flying around tearing at himself and attacking anything nearby, we're there to stop him and save the saviors of Azeroth within. Or something like that. I've got 1,000 good ideas about how to manage this story already but that's because I actually like WoW and the characters.
>because Wrathion and Kalimdor are half in the black empire reality time doesn't function properly so the heroes don't age or starve >we managed to find them by tracking the Heart of Azeroth's magic , remember that fricking neck? You were still wearing it >after we defeat Wrathion we are stranded in corrupted Kalimdor which is EXTREMELY fricking hostile and it seems we saved the heroes only to die alongside them >we happen to crash land right on top of Gallywix's bunker where it is revealed he's the only normal living being still left on the continent somehow >>we force ourselves in as guests and ask how the hell he's still sane >turns out he has this whole collection of rare artifacts he swindled for just such an occasion and he was waiting for it all to blow over so he could swoop in on the real estate market of newly depopulated Kalimdor
etc it goes on and on
you could even show the evacuation of the major cities and continent as a raid, the last stand of Orgrimmar as everyone is trying to get a teleport or vehicle out
Any fan of the game could write better than the slop Blizzard gives in all of 30s of effort.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Nzoth slowly corrupting all of Azeroth and turning them into his black empire >all of Kalimdor has been taken over >new Horde capitol in Silvermoon >Alliance and Horde banding together not to become tentacle mind slaves >have to go into Kalimdor which is now an eldritch hell to defeat N'zoth who has manifested his physical self in what used to be Orgrimmar, think the visions of N'zoth x10000
It literally writes itself.
I would have the expansion start off with an expedition to Kalimdor as the sailors talk giving us the revelation the heroes were defeated and about to go insane when Wrathion seeing what's happening swallowed them all to protect them from the worst of N'zoth's influence (remember the black dragon scales were what gave the cloak insanity resistance) and so Wrathion sacrifices himself going completely mad while the heroes live on inside him only half insane dreaming the story of SL and DF, you could have the expedition then sight a corrupted Wrathion flying around tearing at himself and attacking anything nearby, we're there to stop him and save the saviors of Azeroth within. Or something like that. I've got 1,000 good ideas about how to manage this story already but that's because I actually like WoW and the characters.
I want this so bad
The void stole "her" hips.
Or maybe she's revealing herself to be a brave FtM troon.
Azeroth is a ‘world soul’ and the planet is an egg that’ll hatch to become a god
Different factions want to influence what sort of god it becomes
Each of the factions is ‘flawed’ because they each represent an extreme and so it’s up to (You), the hero, to create balance in the forces
they are trying to corrupt the titan soul to serve them, literally everything is corrupted in wow since like 18 years ago
6 months ago
Anonymous
More like 27 years because le retcon. >Medivh couldn't have just wanted power as a reason for working with demons to open the portal! HE WAS LE CORRUPTED BEFORE BEING BORNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody has any fricking agency in these stupid fricking games.
6 months ago
Anonymous
traps aren't trannies
6 months ago
Anonymous
this
being an egg ks trad red pill as frick
real men are egg and get fricked in the ass by big black wieners
World egg is a concept more ancient than your entire bloodline and this entire species, dork.
It is only natural that when chaos returns on the block or order retaliates all becomes derailed, including sex incohesiveness and nonsensical (to you) plotlines on meta-scale.
Basically there isn't one.
The simple version is that four factions, each representing a fundamental force in the universe, have been waging war over Azeroth since literally forever because Azeroth is the strongest 'World Soul' (World Souls are god embryos).
Because of this constant war, Azeroth and the beings that evolved on it represent a sort of balance of all four of the forces these factions represent.
So, you see.
This is a story about a World Crafted by War
oh fricking please...
same shit with every announcement/release. >expansion gets announced >"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!" >expansion gets released >"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!" >expansion gets announced >"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!" >expansion gets released >"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!" >expansion gets announced >"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!" >expansion gets released >"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!" >expansion gets announced >"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!" >expansion gets released >"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!" >expansion gets announced >"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!" >expansion gets released >"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!"
It's actually pretty fun betauser survived shadowlands and got to do dragonflight.
When even normie media is pissing on your story for being moronic you know you fricked up massively.
Who would have replaced him?
Nobody wanted to inherit a dumpster fire that has a bunch of women and minorites pouring gasoline on it.
He has his job because no one else wants it. He's the king of shit mountain because no rational man can stand the smell.
Anon there are literally hundreds of WoW lore nerds with their own communities from Scrolls of Lore and MMOchampion alongside famous individuals like Nobbel87 and Red Shirt guy. There is an entire community of potential candidates more faithful to the lore than Danuser, but blizzard ignores that talent and hires goblina strippers for it instead
And, what? Those lore nerds take the mantle, walk into the office for the first day, and get a hundred screeching harpies and troons saying why X toxic thing needs a retcon and it was made by awful men so it has no place in the world, etc.
You say frick off, write a coherent story, and get pushed out before it ships.
Or you bend to the way the wind is blowing, and use the games story as your own deviantart fanfiction blog.
Just because there are men FOR a job does not mean those men would be allowed to DO their job.
I dont think there is anything more psychotic in the world of video games than how people know WoW retail is shit yet somehow, every time, get hyped for the next expansion, then 2 weeks after release admit its shit, rinse and repeat for over a decade, absolutely metanl
>WoW is shit now >Completely unsalvageable >Still desperately wish you could find a reason to resub and eke some joy out of it again
Please tell me I'm not alone
I'm having fun with WOTLK classic. Found a good guild of some fellow dipshits and we get together to talk shit and smack easy bosses around every week in an expansion when the game was still mostly fun. It's gonna be over for real once Cata rolls around though - I'm not gonna fall for that one again and the seasonal stuff they're doing just isn't for me.
>muh pooor game waaaaaah
Just buy the game you unthinking Black person just turn off you mind and enjoy the latest Marv- I mean Blizzard slop. You want it, Ion wants and Metzen wants it and will leave again if you don't.
Yep, if you hadn't noticed blizzard is bailing on DF early. There won't be a third patch.
Megatr- I mean Iridikron got his void mcguffin (featured heavily in the War Within trailer) and escaped a time paradox through a void portal (???)
So BFA basically ends with Fyrakk trying to burn the tree while his sister abandons her principles because her sister said "Sorry :(".
With Metzen back, it's hard to say if Megatron's story will finish in the next expansion.
So much for undoing the Titan's stain, muh proto-drake masterace amiright?
I get the itch to resub all the time come a new expansion but the shit WoW has done to their game always holds me back >WoW token >Boosts bots abuse >refuses to implement actual evergreen content and double downs on focusing around raids and PvP >classic+ is ran by a skeleton crew that had the wow token by proxy day 1 >classic+ was further raped by boosts >classic player base is just retail shitters since bwl >player base is so groomed they're defending the 3 day early access
There's just nothing redeeming about WoW in the slightest. There's a positive feedback loop where the player base just enables the worst behaviors from Blizzard because they're so battered that the game just gets worse and worse over time. The player base has no self-awareness or self-respect. Ion was literally saying the 3 day early access is for people who don't have enough time to play the game but if someone doesn't have time to play the game what the frick is 3 days going to accomplish?
>player base is so groomed they're defending the 3 day early access
you'll buy the game anyway so who cares? even if it were the first expansion not to turn into a buggy mess in the first days you have, what, two weeks to a month to get to level cap before real progression content is unlocked?
>you'll buy the game anyway so who cares?
Yeah, that's what I expect from people who have no principles or self-respect >bro it's just server xfers >bro it's faction xfers >bro it's just a mount >bro it's just cosmetics >bro it's just class xfers >bro it's just a one-off boost >bro it's just a non-max level boost >bro it's just a WoW token >all while paying a sub and expansion fee
And then people wonder why the game is so bad. It's why all of their games besides SC2 and HotS went down the shitter >Hearthstone has become an unbalanced mess designed to milk out as much money as possible >Battlegrounds was changed to remove the pass you could buy with gold to having to pay actual money >Diablo immortal was just a cash cow >The other new diablo game was a massive dumpster fire >They destroyed Overwatch and relabeled it as Overwatch 2 >WoW rumble is literally a generic mobile game reskinned with wow characters >Somehow managed to completely frick up Warcraft III
The base game made by the original creators is so good that their will always be a small chance it could be good again. That's why you keep getting the feeling of wanting to come back and enjoy the game you remember.
But then you log in to retail and realize how the game is being actively mutilated by a team of untalented women, queers and freakshows. Unfortunately, this game is entirely developed around speed runners and overly sensitive leftists. It's evident with how the entire game is balanced around M+ and the story is only about women, disabled people, and homosexual NPCs. The game can never be good again until they clean these people out of the company entirely and change the focus of the game.
>Everybody would have loved sexy strongfat Kul Tiran mommies >Create fatfat landwhales that even the "body-positivity" players fricking despise because they can't play dress-up Barbie roleplay with it
Why did they frick it up so bad when it was so obvious what they should've done?
unironically, the vulpera and dragqueers set the bar so unbelievably low that I'm not even that bothered by the morbidly obese race anymore
they also have a funny PVP racial if you're DK
every time I see these fat fricks I crack up because they look exactly like my friends cancer ridden mom, if they have the little fortune teller hat on I can't handle it.
>the devs aren't listening >ooh i think the devs are listening >the devs are listening >the devs aren't listening >ooh i think the devs are listening >the devs are listening >the devs aren't listening >ooh i think the devs are listening >the devs are listening >the devs aren't listening >ooh i think the devs are listening >the devs are listening
You will never feel the joy and sense of wonder when you played as a child/teenager again.
The friends you used to know will never play again.
Nothing will ever feel new or exciting again.
You will always have that lingering feeling that you should be doing something else instead of playing WoW. it will only get worse as you get older.
>You will never feel the joy and sense of wonder when you played as a child/teenager again.
agree. i was lucky enough to play in the beta and be there day one on its launch.
also was able to catch the midnight launches for the expansions with blizzard devs since they did it at my local frys electronics a couple of times.
>The friends you used to know will never play again.
not entirely true. the friends i played with at launch jumped back on when classic was first released. though we didnt stick with it and went back to playing FF14 >Nothing will ever feel new or exciting again.
in WoWs case? yeah, most likely. >You will always have that lingering feeling that you should be doing something else instead of playing WoW. it will only get worse as you get older.
other than getting back on with Classic. I havent really played the game since Mists.
>You will never feel the joy and sense of wonder when you played as a child/teenager again. >The friends you used to know will never play again. >Nothing will ever feel new or exciting again. >You will always have that lingering feeling that you should be doing something else instead of playing WoW. it will only get worse as you get older.
ff14 gave me all these feelings. kys.
>WoW lost its way with Battle for Azeroth, but Dragonflight will fix it >WoW lost its way with Warlords of Draenor, but Battle for Azeroth will fix it >WoW lost its way with Cataclysm, but Warlords of Draenor will fix it
>Battle for Azeroth
i remember all that shit where they said Battle for Azeroth was supposed to bring the game back to its roots. i still liked that cinematic though...
bfa was kino and midwits were memed into hating it by streamers because the gearing sucked. Everything else about it was actually good except for the parts they had to abandon because streamertrannies were throwing a fit
>for the parts they had to abandon because streamertrannies were throwing a fit
what parts?
never played the expansion. already dropped wow years ago but i have friends that still play it so i just read things here and there sometimes.
bfa was garbage dont listen to that homosexual >but it was fine on the last patch where they unlocked everything and added vendors for corruptions
have a nice day >verification not required
they abandoned warfronts, which was a pve gamemode that required a little bit of trial and error to become kino because people kept b***hing about it. They abandoned corrupted gear (gear that gave insane amounts of power but with certain drawbacks like reduced movespeed or increased damage taken), and they abandoned the x.3 patch, halfassing it so that we didn't even get a new zone, we just got old cataclysm and MoP zones that got "corrupted" and a half-assed Nyalotha raid. Something that could've been an expansion by itself was turned into a halfassed season because people b***hed so much about bfa that they dropped it halfway through development to make shadowlands
>they abandoned warfronts
thank god, warfronts were a fricking snorefest, people were asking for pvp warfronts and blizzard told them to eat a dick
>They abandoned corrupted gear
what the frick are you talking about, they added corruption gear and then they added the vendor, next patch was the next expansion
>half-assed Nyalotha raid
yes
traps aren't trannies
>sucking dicks is not gay
are we really back to 2016?
6 months ago
Anonymous
it's not gay, I only date women and trannies and sucked the latter's wiener before fricking her colon
6 months ago
Anonymous
>it’s not gay… sucked the wiener
Brother..
6 months ago
Anonymous
>thank god, warfronts were a fricking snorefest
because they didn't refine them you fricking homosexual. warfronts had the potential to be great, and youtubers shit on them so hard day 1 that they just gave up. Did you know that we missed out on a Quel'Thalas revamp because you homosexuals complained so much
6 months ago
Anonymous
wrarfronts will always be fricking garbage because killing npcs will never be hard, they needed to be pvp
>we missed out on a Quel'Thalas
who gives a frick about a dead city
>bfa was kino
Not even discussing azerite gear
Shamans got an iou instead of class changes and so had to play a class designed around legion weapons and abilities, without them and frick them I guess?
Island expeditions sucked and were abandoned
Battlefronts sucked and were abandoned.
Sylvanas' motivations completely contradicted each other and were obviously soft-retconned once the 'le jailor' story was clearly solidifying behind the scenes.
Jaina just copy-pasted her MoP arc again and just sort of randomly gave up on the *dismantle* plan despite having no reason to after the battle patch.
>shamans were just legion class without weapons
shamans were one of the most fun classed to play, I don't know about enh, but ele and resto were fun af, I played every spec (in the game) except enh. >island expeditions sucked
yup, battlegrounds just sitting there untouched, maybe they don't like the high, exponential internet traffic game mode >battlefr-
well maybe not, yup blizzard would be that moronic. like battlegrounds just sitting right there, the ultimate, most fun gamemode of all time in wow, untouched for half a decade. >the lore
the what? Who is sylvanus. Is she a human the orcs want to kill. >Jaina
yes not enough hot voice actress.
>BfA >kino
You mean "Morally Gray", but without the "r".
Sylvanas should never have been Warchief to begin with because the Forsaken were just fricking allies with the Horde. They were never actually supposed to be a part of it. Blizzard manages to continuously forget their own lore even though the Warcraft story is pretty fricking simple.
I blame both blizzard and moronic players from Cata. World of Sylvanascraft could have died considering Blizzard ignored the subject for two whole expansions.
Yet they couldn't let go. Hard to say if it was the devs who made the call or the homosexual players who couldn't drop it got hired and became the devs.
All I know is I wrote a paragraph to a lore forum homosexual about why Calia Menethil becoming the Forsaken Leader because "Sylvnas had to die" in 2012 and guess what fricking happened?
Leveling was fricking soulful. Islands and Battlefronts could have been cool but they shit the bed. Azerite armor was fine unless you wanted to respec more than once in which case FRICK YOU. Corruptions were cool as frick. Mechagon was kino. The devs actively hated you if you played alts.
BfA is a sad story because they actually had the players kinda hyped at the beginning and then just massively bungled everything about it
It would've been the right time to rework pvp into an actually accessible thing, like it used to be in classic, and get people to actually fight for their faction
Like imagine a reworked pvp system with warfronts allowing you to actually conquer places
Imagine raids with pvp interactions that influence progression
But they took the easy designable route on everything because of engagement-metric driven decisions by a management that panicked about falling subscriber numbers and profit-greedy CEOs, then cut their losses midway through and started pouring dev resources into the next expansion, resulting in massively rushed and halfassed content
PvP just got worse the more progressively flashier abilities got added with each xpack until it became a fricking mess of effects. Play Vanilla and see how easy it is to spot exactly every spell a class is using against you or a group, now try the same in retail. There's no saving it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
it's also just a complete mess with every spec having like 80 different abilities that you need to know in order to actually play the game against them
wow pvp currently is played by a community of like 50 giga autists worldwide and the rest has no patience for this shit, especially because they force you to get clapped for like 500 games before you even get a chance due to gear
6 months ago
Anonymous
MMO pvp but especially WoW pvp should never have been balanced or try to become an esport. It was at its most fun when it was unbalanced, or when the balance depended on the scale of groups to balance an engagement (like AV or Southshore pvp).
6 months ago
Anonymous
They think they're monetizing the friction of new players, not taking into account they can just quit and do
I don't play this game or any MMO while we're at it, but this shit clutters the Ganker catalog and every single time they state that the previous expansion was shit and that the next one will be the best one, how the frick do people still pay for this trash? Are they legitimately moronic?
We've reached a point where cartoonishly evil zombies who have been openly telling you they plan to kill all life on the planet since level 5 now need "consent" from their mind slave that they abducted, lobotomized, and did gruesome experiments on for months.
And people dare to say this game remotely has its shit together.
Go paint me some more fruit bowls, you fricking clowns.
this game is so fricking gay. I wanted to defend this by saying they turned "domination" into a specific school of magic with an implicit meaning that may not apply here, but after reading further they're just fricking homosexuals who don't like to write the no-no words. I hope Metzen fires every single one of these women. Because you know a fricking woman wrote this
as a white man with a frickload of disposable income, id have to say....................... nah
Reminder, none of this is due to 'wokeness' this was a smokescreen play by c suite to distract people by getting them mad at the WOKES instead of all their diddling mates who were getting the company sued by state and federal regulators.
Defending the company? I'm blaming the company, you know the officers who make the decisions?
You're blaming some fricking intern like they have the power to make these choices without the nod from higher up.
Right, so you thought I said something you know I didn't but I am still wrong based purely on the optics of my comment?
I didn't realise I was talking to an SJW.
You're fricking moronic man
it's always these types that end up being molesters and sex pests
anywhere you have shit like this you also have sexual abuse, 100% even if it's not disclosed
I promise you, you'll get word about sexual abuse in the offices of Arenanet in due time.
I honestly don't give a shit about their "real intentions" anymore. Their games are full of woke garbage, it seems every fricking character in DF is part of the alphabet mafia, half the quest logs are so full of "my husband my husband my husband" they may as well just have outright typed BY THE WAY I'M GAY in there. Hell, the entirety of the Overwatch panel this blizzcon couldn't go two sentences with spouting buzzwords like "diversity", "inclusivity". BRO WHERE'S THE GAMEPLAY
And yet the company itself doesn't believe in any of that garbage, it's all performative. Their employees are breastmilk stealing sexpests, they still bend their knees to china. Remember when they put that troon in a DF showcase (to an emote-only twitch chat full of vomit emotes) and then it ditched the company for Riot?
At best they are spineless panderers. At worse they are fully compromised. Blizzard is a dead company raping the corpses of the IPs I grew up with and deserves no less than bankrupcy and the actual subhuman morons still supporting them deserve to be ridiculed just as hard as mobile game players or gacha addicts.
This is the most hilarious shit.
They needed to remove the "lack of consent" bit here.
So instead we're supposed to believe that this woman willingly went to the sadistic zombie man and said "h-hey... can you.. uhm... like.. lobotomize me? and then turn me into a drooling pet? it's kind of like a BDSM kink"
My fricking sides.
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Here it is. Funny to see the two stances juxtaposed.
>9.2 is making me very happy because people keep saying my incubus makes them uncomfortable >And so when we think about things like /lick, /moan, pounce. Its worth nothing that, while these things can be used in good fun between consenting people, it also exists as a way to suddenly and forcefully create a sense of danger for women when they are trying to enjoy a game.
Do you like things that make people comfortable or not?
This has to be the most moronic thing people got angry over.
The "dark-skinned Blood Elves" are the Night Elves.
In the lore, all elves used to be the Night Elves who operated as a magocracy centered around the Well of Eternity, an endless source of magic. Their nobility were a caste of mages called the "Highborne." They used magic so much, their very essences became entwined with it. Then the Well of Eternity blew up and the flow of magic from it ceased. This crippled the surviving Highborne nobility, who were promptly overthrown by the Night Elf commoners and banished. These banished Highborne sailed across the sea until they reached Quel'thalas and created the Sunwell with a vial of the waters of the Well of Eternity, creating the Sunwell. However, the Highborne were left pale and stunted by their long withdrawal from magic, creating the High Elves we know today. After Quel'thalas was destroyed by the Scourge, Prince Kael'thas redubbed the remaining High Elves the "Blood Elves" in honor of the fallen and lead them into Outland. (And, yes, "Blood Elf" was originally just a political term to describe the followers of Kael'thas, not High Elves that had consumed fel magic, but Blizzard can't keep their lore straight)
That's why dark-skinned Blood Elves make no fricking sense. They're already in the game, they're called Night Elves. Blood Elves are pale skinned because of the mutations suffered by their Highborne ancestors while they were suffering from magic withdrawal.
More importantly, however, Blood Elves are a magical fantasy race, not humans with pointy ears. Thinking that it's important to include black and brown Blood Elves to be "inclusive" implies that the Blood Elves are human.
It makes no sense because it's a fictional race. It is complete liberal to pretend that ethnic differences in humanity have nothing to do with a phenomenon called specialization based on genetic isolation and natural selection, but to treat it as some kind of rando variation like your eye color.
Ergo any given fantasy race can have a "black, white or Asian" equivalent because it's a coat of paint even though even black people understand an elf ain't a fricking human.
I am genuinely surprised that by WotLK Classic, they didn't blackwash Stormwind again and file it under #somechanges.
The WotLK community loves wiener, so they would have cheered it on.
ah yes can't wait for the max level when i can uhhhhhhhhh grind M+ infinitely and uhhhhhhhhhhh raid and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
This, MMOs are surprisingly cheap to run >But server costs
As the playerbase shrinks, so does the load they place on servers. On top of that, Blizzard has been able to get away with not only making garbage content, but less of it with each expansion and charge the same prices for all of it. They're still making a profit, but they're definitely not the giant they used to be.
they're still getting 1+ million people to pay $15 a month. People also buy token to sell for gold. Then the paypiggies which is most mazed freak buy up every fricking mount special. Dropping $150 extra to get a single mount. Truly pathetic!
I'm honestly surprised they haven't removed all of the armors and clothes that show any hint of skin on female models yet, or just replaced them with a body-covering single color.
Shadowlands zombie invasion was so much better than the Wrath one.
Organized efforts to stop them could succeed in Wrath, in SL even one zombie could start a fricking town-destroying apocalypse. Shit was the one fun thing about SL.
I waifued alleria in wc2. I can fix her. I can give her a baby. I can console her when turalyon eventually gets offed in a lore breaking loot pinata Dungeon.
I don't know how stupid these people are. But if they think in any way they have improved from Shadowlands and didn't bleed more from the pivot the MMO genre is fricked. DF and Worldsoul are putting more holes in the ship while there's this strange narrative that somehow things are on the right track now. Fricking look at the data. Same mistakes as DF are going to be in Worldsoul and people are still going to be blaming Shadowlands when WW has less players than DF. Eject your esports players. Ban asmongold. Ban Bellular. Frick cosmetic rewards. Shrug off all this pretend bullshit over utopian gameplay loops where the pillars don't interfere with each other and nobody is cross pollinating other pillars. People don't give a shit about titles pets and mounts they want power. RPGs have always been about player power and the sweats b***hing about AP and causing DF has been the most insane shit in the world. The most hardcore group are advocating for anti RPG design because they can't control their mental illness. The game becomes an unfun wasteland because they get what they want. People leave because pets and toys aren't reward loops and they scratch their heads saying Shadowlands did it. Delves ain't gonna fix shit we're going further down boys they haven't seen rock bottom yet.
>current wow sucks >new expansion comes out >everybody loves it for a month or two >then it sucks again until the new expansion is announced
it's been this way for the last 15 years.
It was funny with dragonflight. All the wow streamers were talking about how great dragonflight is, how wow was back, how it was just like how it used to be, and then they were all on wow classic the entire time kek. Not even sure how that's supposed to work out.
I remember even whatshisname the british psycho dude >Dragonflight is GREAT! The greatest WoW has been in a long time, even! >But our viewership numbers went way down >And we really don't have any reason to play... >But this is WoW's best expansion since WoTLK!
They do this every time. >Blizzard has SAVED WoW >Blizzard finally listened >expansion launches >[Expansion] has FIXED WOW >3 months after expansion >What went wrong... >Why [Expansion] failed. >Blizzard we have a problem. >new patch is announced >X.1is fixing EVERYTHING
and so on and so on these people have a formula designed to pander to the hype and disappointment cycle of the wowgays
>The bareist minimum gets shown
no it didn't
was just 2 dudes talking
features were just Shadowlands again, they're still doing 4 raiding difficulties and funneling people into M+, they're still doing the vault, they're still doing fake PVP numbers, shitty itemization with boring items, not going back on the muh feelings plot, not going back on the gay shit that they know for a fact is the biggest thing holding the game back.
Let me put it like this, I started playing WoW when I was like 11 years old, and I thought it was all cool and gritty and shit.
I could tell people "Yeah I play World of Warcraft, it's fricking sick, I'm a Mage, I turn people into sheep and shoot gigantic pyroblasts".
11 year old me would never let a living soul know he played current World of Warcraft, because if I tell someone that I play it, and they google the game, the first thing they see is something embarrassingly gay, or weirdly sexual and fetishistic.
It's more embarrassing than getting caught watching porn, cause it's fricked up and twisted.
It will NEVER be back, so long as the vibe is off.
That narc guy is unironically a Gankertard who's entire channel is shilling a kickstarter scam while appealing to classicbucks.
Having thousands of views on any video of his is hilarious.
Star Citizen isn't a scam, it's vaporware. You can actually play a rough alpha version of Star Citizen right now.
What's more, if there's a scammy part of Star Citizen, it's that CIG is willing to continue increasing the scope of the game indefinitely to up the hype and bring in the whale bux, thus essentially keeping it vaporware in a permanent alpha state.
Ashes of Creation has not increased in scope from the initial Kickstarter pitch. What's more, it's not nearly as ambitious as Star Citizen. Star Citizen is looking to create something that has essentially never been done before. Ashes of Creation wants to create a somewhat-ambitious mix of systems that have been implemented in other MMOs already. Namely, it's clearly been influenced by a lot of the shit that was in ArcheAge.
yeah they do, what the frick do you mean?
If Steven wants to scam people out of 3M dollars, do you think he will get every single person on the team in on it?
He needs things to show to get more money, so he pays legit devs to do it, but he'll disappear before release and the game is never going to get off the ground.
It's been said a million times but I'll say it again: There is no future for a highly graphically intensive MMO like Ashes of Creation.
Things that become really popular are accessible from a hardware standpoint first.
Fortnite, Genshin, Among Us, etc. by virtue of running on phones, these games run on the shittiest laptops and have no issues running on consoles either.
Games like WoW are in the same category.
Games like GW2 and ESO tried, but their optimization is shit on top of their aesthetics also being shit.
Since I brought up aesthetics, if I told you to imagine something in the Ashes of Creation aesthetic, would you be able to?
The artstyle is anemic and uninspiring. Impossibly generic.
It's just not going to work.
Scammers don't claim their game is fully funded and they don't need anymore money, either. They claim that they could just get across the finish line or add just one more cool feature if they just had a bit more money. Intrepid isn't doing that.
Now, they ARE selling expensive alpha keys to anyone who wants to buy them, which might be a scam if Intrepid Studios was a not-for-profit charity. However, you will notice that they're a for-profit business and that it isn't generally regarded as a scam when for-profit businesses try to make a profit.
Many popular MMOs were pretty graphics intensive when they first game out, including WoW actually. I remember when it first came out, some older machines couldn't run it and lower end computers like you might have gotten from Best Buy would chug a bit running it and you'd have to play in potato mode.
"It doesn't have a unique artstyle" is a complaint you borrowed from Asmongold.
>Star Citizen isn't a scam, it's vaporware.
It's a matter of perspective.
Their business isn't making a game, it's milking whales with a promise of a game.
I'd say stringing idiots along to squeeze as much money as possible out of them with no intention of actually releasing anything is very much a scam.
The only scenario where SC is ever released is if/when whales finally decide to leave and they need to do a final squeeze. At that point the game will "release", but it still won't be finished.
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Anonymous
>Their business isn't making a game, it's milking whales with a promise of a game.
They have, in fact, made a game. You can play it right now. It's a buggy mess of an alpha that isn't yet anything like what was promised, but it does, in fact, exist. With ships and sci-fi cities and everything. In fact, they're now claiming that they're ready to start rolling out the singleplayer version.
They are clearly developing something. What could be regarded as a scam is that they seem to be keeping the game in this permanent alpha stage while just promising players more and more to get money. So, if there's a scam, it's that the game that's being developed is designed more to string players along and get them to keep buying from the cash shop rather than to actually complete the game. So, the game itself isn't a scam, so much as the business practices around the game. The game itself is actually being made. Whether they have any intention of finishing their game within the next century is another question entirely.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>They have, in fact, made a game. You can play it right now.
They don't even have properly functioning netcode or physics. If you pay me $1000 for a premium product and I get you the cheapest piece of shit from walmart, won't you feel scammed?
6 months ago
Anonymous
If I got something different from what I was being sold, sure. If I got the thing I wanted, but it turned out to not be as good as was I was lead to believe, it would be a rip off, but not a actual scam.
The actual scam CIG is running is similar to what Yanderedev is doing with Yandere Simulator. Which is create small "hype" updates which bring in interest and donations, but don't get the game any closer to completion.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>thing I wanted
It's missing 90% of the promised features, the ones it does have are barely functional, and it's 9 years and $700 million past the delivery date with no end in sight.
The single player game only exists in short promo videos with no gameplay, same as it's been since 2015.
I don't know about you, but to me it looks like they're doing the bare minimum to keep the scam going. Early adopters of pyramid schemes get paid too, you know.
>"It doesn't have a unique artstyle" is a complaint you borrowed from Asmongold.
Are they wrong though? It looks like every other unreal game. Intrepid must nail this part if they intend to retain players.
yeah they do, what the frick do you mean?
If Steven wants to scam people out of 3M dollars, do you think he will get every single person on the team in on it?
He needs things to show to get more money, so he pays legit devs to do it, but he'll disappear before release and the game is never going to get off the ground.
It's been said a million times but I'll say it again: There is no future for a highly graphically intensive MMO like Ashes of Creation.
Things that become really popular are accessible from a hardware standpoint first.
Fortnite, Genshin, Among Us, etc. by virtue of running on phones, these games run on the shittiest laptops and have no issues running on consoles either.
Games like WoW are in the same category.
Games like GW2 and ESO tried, but their optimization is shit on top of their aesthetics also being shit.
Since I brought up aesthetics, if I told you to imagine something in the Ashes of Creation aesthetic, would you be able to?
The artstyle is anemic and uninspiring. Impossibly generic.
It's just not going to work.
Star Citizen isn't a scam, it's vaporware. You can actually play a rough alpha version of Star Citizen right now.
What's more, if there's a scammy part of Star Citizen, it's that CIG is willing to continue increasing the scope of the game indefinitely to up the hype and bring in the whale bux, thus essentially keeping it vaporware in a permanent alpha state.
Ashes of Creation has not increased in scope from the initial Kickstarter pitch. What's more, it's not nearly as ambitious as Star Citizen. Star Citizen is looking to create something that has essentially never been done before. Ashes of Creation wants to create a somewhat-ambitious mix of systems that have been implemented in other MMOs already. Namely, it's clearly been influenced by a lot of the shit that was in ArcheAge.
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Scammers don't claim their game is fully funded and they don't need anymore money, either. They claim that they could just get across the finish line or add just one more cool feature if they just had a bit more money. Intrepid isn't doing that.
Now, they ARE selling expensive alpha keys to anyone who wants to buy them, which might be a scam if Intrepid Studios was a not-for-profit charity. However, you will notice that they're a for-profit business and that it isn't generally regarded as a scam when for-profit businesses try to make a profit.
Many popular MMOs were pretty graphics intensive when they first game out, including WoW actually. I remember when it first came out, some older machines couldn't run it and lower end computers like you might have gotten from Best Buy would chug a bit running it and you'd have to play in potato mode.
"It doesn't have a unique artstyle" is a complaint you borrowed from Asmongold.
Kinda irrelevant to my point
1. Narc is a Gankertard and drapes himself in the aesthetic of Ganker to appeal to Gankertards (which is sad in its own right)
2. Regardless of whether ashes of creation is a scam. He's a scammer, he literally posts fanfiction copium about the game he knows isn't real in ways that impute he's talking about features and the like.
Old God dagger possessed a high elf Twilight Cultist. So technically a void elf.
Wait she's actually a high elf? So she's not even that old. I thought she was meant to be some ancient unfathomable being playing 4d chess. What were the vague whispers in legion? Just her being an obtuse c**t on purpose?
In BFA the Shadow Priest legendary weapon from Legion, a sentient dagger rumored to be a betrayed Old God, shows up again. You help her basically transfer her soul into the corpse of a high elf cultist named Inanis through a pact with N'zoth.
Xal'atath then fricks off with her new body and the old dagger is used to help kill N'zoth at the end of the expansion.
So no, the dagger is using a high elf as a body, what the being in the dagger is hasn't been made canon but probably a 6th old god that was butchered and turned into a dagger.
Were at the point where content creators have to shill, not out of genuinely being fooled or paid but out of desperation. Views for Warcraft news and just Warcraft in general is at a all time low and if Warcraft doesn't regain at least some of it's popularity, a lot of these channels will probably start to be untenable, money wise. I mean just compare Bellular's views for Legion/BFA to now or even fricking SL. Customer apathy is a big problem and if 3 "Expansion" announcements and Classic+ Lite can't bring in views it might actually be over.
I honestly don't understand this. They barely gave any actual information at all with that presentation. Did they really just fall for Metzen doing growly voices and begging them to come back?
Yes.
WoW fans are desperate morons who will grasp at even the flimsiest of straws if it can comfort them that their dying game has somehow been 'saved' from it's gradual and continuous decay.
I saw somebody else point this out during the event; Every single person Vlizzard brought on stage for the opening ceremony was a limp wristed corporate mouth that had no excitement or passion. The closest you got was the Hearthstone lady and she was stuck presenting stuff people already knew about for a dying card game. Then Metzen came out and immediately started getting involved with the crowd.
It's representative of what's gone on at Blizzard, especially with WoW for the past THREE expansions. Three whole expansions of being told to sit down and shut up because some shitty characters designed in board rooms have to fly around being invincible while they uproot as many parts of the lore as they can in the shitty new places that popped up out of nowhere. There's a reason Azshara is the best fricking character in BFA, and it's because at the very least she acted like a proper villain like she should. Same reason Denathrius was liked and why Garrosh's little cutscene was by far the best one in Shadowlands.
Metzen comes out and goes "Hey we're gonna go fight some fricking Nerubians, later on we're gonna fight the Void in Quel'thalas, and the we're gonna go back to fricking Ulduar to see some cool Titan shit go down", and people are instantly on board because Jesus fricking Christ the last three expansion have been fricking awful. Dragonflight manages to be the best purely out of the fact that it's hyper generic filler rather than just egregiously painful slander against the setting.
The worst part is that these videos proclaiming that the game has been 'saved' barely have anything of substance to say.
I know because I've actually watched the Nixxiom one, it's just stupid fricking click-bait bullshit. The whole video is 15 mins of vapid rambling about nothing and re-stating parts of the announcement.
>re-stating parts of the announcement.
This has been going on for fricking ever. I remember that Panzer girl used to just read mmo-champion news verbatim
it's pretty funny that people listen to a goblin that lives in his dead mother's attic with blood from his fricked up teeth on the walls and think he knows anything
I still can't fricking believe this moron got his own mother killed. Yeah, she was going to die pretty soon anyways but she couldn't function without him making him her, by anyone's definition, guardian and he just let her smoke on oxygen causing it to explode. He's so fricking lucky he wasn't her legal guardian
oh he'll shill it
he can talk to the blizzard devs now and he got paid for that wow commercial for dragonflight that he appeared in for all of 2 seconds
Night Media and Microsoft/Activison have the same corporate conglomerate owners, along with YouTube and Twitch.
It's insane how zoomers are even more corporate controlled than the boomers.
Depends on how big you're making the base game, so it needs to be pretty big and costly to net a decent playerbase. High starting costs, cheap to maintain, so if you get that playerbase, it pays for itself rather quickly, then you get into profit territory. Issue is that fricking nobody plays these games anymore, not in the numbers you'd need to make back your initial investment before interest fizzles out.
It's actually volcel because MMOs are like a second job. MMO players remove themselves from the dating pool, but this is not always the case, sometimes they were never in the dating pool to begin with. That said, I actually once knew a married couple who played WoW together, got both of their kids into it, too.
Not really because those games Save for the newest zelda are all usually new games World of Warcraft is a game that has shit tacked on and on and on for several years and every time they do it brings the overall quality of the game down atleast past wrath
people have invested so much time and money into their characters that half if blizzards business model relies on sunk cost fallacy. Wow2 would likely abolish all the ingame store bought shit people paid stupid amounts of money for.
FFXI is still running just keep WoW on maintenance mode to continue milking the middle aged crack addicts and make WoW 2 a good game from scratch, not that they are even capable of this
>playerbase spends all of dragonflight complaining about dragonflights awful "muh feelings" story >cinematic is literally zero action, and all "muh feelings"
I can't believe you cucks actually believe this fixes anything. I unsubbed right after seeing that cinematic, this IP is dead.
>playerbase spends all of dragonflight complaining about dragonflights awful "muh feelings" story
The only thing I complained about with the expansion was how much dragon flying sucks. I'm surprised there's still people who even care about the story.
i don't give a shit about the boring light vs void shit. i don't care about titans and what they're up to. i want to be a lowly adventurer helping some peasant get wolf pelts, but most importantly i want the story to revolve around interesting characters that we can actually fricking care about. arthas, thrall and etc are so memorable because they have tangible stories, why would i give a shit about some random cosmic entities doing stuff
Steve Danuser writing something so fricking dogshit that pyro has another meltdown will be IRL kino far better than anything that happens in wow itself.
Is he just going to cycle through them now.
How long before he has another public meltdown after someone calls him out for beating his wife and kids
or is that one of the other chasers
I never really understood the voidshit with Alleria. Obviously, they want to go for this thematic juxtapoition with her husband cool ok. And they're going with 'power isn't good or evil it's how you use it' thing (which is a retcon, seeing as fel literally leeched the life out of draenor but ok), I get that.
But why her? She was literally just a ranger, pure physical class. She never did anything magic or magic adjacent in WCII, she has no special connection to the void. She's not even really a void elf like the void elves are because her path was different.
Given all the weird shit with the void Ethereals I feel like some particular writer who paid attention in BC and wanted to really drill in the newer chronicles lore and needed a character to explore it.
There really wasn't a viable rep for the new lore because Spriests basically had just gotten a complete lore revamp before legion, so they just went with some of the returning characters.
>juxtapoition
Do wowclowns actually believes this shit?
He was the big guy, the alpha, the gigachad, he has everything, everyone loves him and want him to be the king of fricking PLANET
And their son, the son of a white male and an elf was the chosen one
How did he even manage to get a wife and kids
This is beyond my comprehension
How is his wife not feeling second-hand embarassment from the online antics of the father of her child?
He's paying for her kid and making money with her name plastered over his brand while she barely shows up between dates anymore.
Once the income goes down enough she'll leave officially to protect the size of alimony and child payments.
The things they are working on and self-awareness to point out what wasn't working and that they need to change the entire formula and delivery schedule of the content to keep up in the future is a very good sign. I liked basically everything that they have shown at BlizzCon, not least of all that they are FINALLY trying to bring out expansions quicker by having shorter content release cycles. My dream would be a yearly expansion but given that they are still working on their "seasonal" schedule I don't think that's happening.
However, this is Blizzard we are talking about. Ion says a lot of things if the day is long enough and Blizzard has been saying that they wanna do faster expansion releases since fricking Burning Crusade.
But I'll be damned, I'm actually cautiously optimistic for this one. Might even play it. Eventually. Not on release.
No they fricking didn't.
If anything that was false-flagging. Lying to stir up shit in such a transparent and obvious way that it ruins the purpose of lying in the first place.
Just like you are doing now. Why can't people just talk about fricking video games anymore, it's all tribalistic shit-flinging.
>shit up every other MMO thread for well over a decade >things turn around for once >"h-hey now let's be reasonable, ugh stop the tribalism please!"
Nah, keep crying Blizzcuck.
>destroyed all the mystery of the afterlife >destroyed every in-universe religion >retconned the architectural inspiration for the scourge originally being from nerubians >you took the fricking necrolord sigil directly into the fricking lair of the big bad you fricking moron
and these are all just from the top of my head
>Jailer's plan is ??? >Jailer is using a thing in Zereth Mortis, a place outside of fricking reality to craft after lives(?????) to activate the Forge of Souls beneath Icecrown Citdael, which actually was planned and built by the Lich King all along to siphon Azeroth's world soul somehow to do ??? >The Jailer wants to "rewrite the laws of reality". What the frick does that mean? What is the endgoal of that? What would those new laws even be? Just that he can dominate shit? He can already do that. >"Actually I was good all the time, I was really just trying to protect us from ... from ... >Sylvanas starts a world war, genocides Teldrassil, unleashes an Old God that VERY NEARLY KILLS THE WORLD and is ripping reality apart but the Jailer acting entirely in character and doing nothing different than usual is now causing her to have a crisis of identity and betray him for literally no fricking reason and he REWARDS her for it by giving her soul back, which he has no reason to assume would actually kill her, given that he knows about Uther. >Mueh'zala, 2 seconds before you kick his shit in goes "Oh by the way here's all the things I caused that people wondered about bye, we'll never talk about this or mention me or my impact ever again"
Making a homosexual troony be a super special snowflake that didn't forget his previous life unlike basically everyone else in Bastion despite being there for a significantly longer period of time. This is on top of him being sent there SPECIFICALLY because he was such a "good fit" for it since you had to be specially picked to go to one of the 4 realms otherwise you would go to your normal afterlife
Learn to read dipshit
I said it'd be kino if they finished it, not if it wasn't shit. It most likely still would be shit even IF we had 2 more raids, full garrison customization including zone and subzone placement, 2 more zones etc etc etc.
Shit games can still be kino.
>XIV player >Be curious about WoW since shitposters keep saying that XIV is a troony game and to come back to "home" to worlo >Mfw this thread
I've been had
See, that's where I disagree.
From this thread alone, I can see that WoW is pozzed as frick.
Meanwhile XIV doesn't really have any of that sort of thing, no gay couples, no race color change, no painting change, fricking hell the first dungeon is STILL a pirate rape cave with rape slave in it and still a reference to a previous queen of a main city captured and raped in said cave.
That sort of thing wouldn't exist in WoW today.
BUT for some reason, trannies fricking love XIV and play it instead of the actual pozzed game made and changed for them.
Really boggle the mind.
That's the only instance of an obvious gay couple, and isn't even shoved in your face, heck IIRC it's not even a main story dungeon so you can even ignore it lmao
>I mean FFXIV is a troony game
Show proof that isn't just a years old screenshot of a random guy saying "trans rights" in chat. Because if that's all you have then literally every game is a troony game.
sounds about right
most people just assume shit about the game based on 1-2 second webms and images that are often also manipulated
whenever there's a dev highlight and a trans person is on screen for like 0,3 seconds of the 40 minute presentation that's all you're gonna see here
I played both ffxiv and wow for a pretty long time now; claiming that wow stole elements from ffxiv is very reductive and selective. the only actual parallel you can draw is that ffxiv took the design philosophy of wow combat all the way back in ARR and that's about it
Dragonflight is pretty okay, has quite a good amount of random stuff to occupy yourself with, progression has the best system since mop, all around a very player friendly expansion. The story is shit in the sense that it's very barebones and uninspired, which is a massive improvement over the shit we got before. It's like the opposite of ffxiv in that sense, because in that game there's barely anything to do but the story and characters are pretty good.
>most people just assume shit about the game based on 1-2 second webms and images that are often also manipulated >a trans person >Dragonflight is pretty okay
Sounds like they made the correct assumption.
Preaching to the choir. Played both, quit XIV in 6.3 because I have ran out of content I want to do and they are insistent on not adding any more. Dungeons and raids seem repetitive the more I do of them, all classes play the same, and Dawntrail seems to be literally just more of the same. I need new shit. And I am almost pissed that WoW is doing more innovation than XIV.
The only fake thing is the beard and the glasses. The original art is even gayer if you ask me. Someone post the unedited version please.
It's literal fricking fanart from Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/qzs6ft/stormwinds_visitor_fanart_made_for_hearthstone/
The board will be empty except for 2 posts in the hgame general.
Actually yeah, sounds like an improvement.
sounds about right
most people just assume shit about the game based on 1-2 second webms and images that are often also manipulated
whenever there's a dev highlight and a trans person is on screen for like 0,3 seconds of the 40 minute presentation that's all you're gonna see here
I played both ffxiv and wow for a pretty long time now; claiming that wow stole elements from ffxiv is very reductive and selective. the only actual parallel you can draw is that ffxiv took the design philosophy of wow combat all the way back in ARR and that's about it
Dragonflight is pretty okay, has quite a good amount of random stuff to occupy yourself with, progression has the best system since mop, all around a very player friendly expansion. The story is shit in the sense that it's very barebones and uninspired, which is a massive improvement over the shit we got before. It's like the opposite of ffxiv in that sense, because in that game there's barely anything to do but the story and characters are pretty good.
Preaching to the choir. Played both, quit XIV in 6.3 because I have ran out of content I want to do and they are insistent on not adding any more. Dungeons and raids seem repetitive the more I do of them, all classes play the same, and Dawntrail seems to be literally just more of the same. I need new shit. And I am almost pissed that WoW is doing more innovation than XIV.
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It's literal fricking fanart from Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/qzs6ft/stormwinds_visitor_fanart_made_for_hearthstone/
>let me be the voice of reason here, this whole thing about "wokeness" is so silly >both games have good and bad sides, but FFXIV is definitely shit and I won't play it anymore >btw I'm a troony and the source of the problem
>expansion trailers 15 years ago >the lich king raises a massive fricking undead dragon and it flies over an army of undead >expansion trailers today >therapy session featuring thrall and the son christie golden never had
>Military recruiting ads 20 years ago >High-tech weaponry, tactics, combat, sense of pride among men >Military ads now >Rebecca from some upper-middle class neighborhood with a bachelors in social science and two moms joins the military to push boxes
>Also have they fired steve danuser?
He's been demoted and ahoved into the cuckshed. Now they just need tobdo the same to Golden, who was probably responsible for the abortion of a story in Dragonflight. If things are as they appear with TWW, she's also been shoved down.
>the art team carries the game heavily
Bro the game looks like utter fricking garbage what the FRICK are you talking about
It's LAUGHABLE by today's standards
drek'thar is in a wheelchair because he's fricking geriatric and no in-universe magic can reverse damage done by age
that homosexual dragon is in a wheelchair because he identifies as terminally handicapped
the first one looks like the rabid savage gnolls are supposed to be, the second one looks like an inbred worgen and could pass as a furry's avatar. you are a dishonest moron not worth engaging if you deny this
6 months ago
Anonymous
they literally are the same except one is higher fidelity
stop being obsessed with furries
6 months ago
Anonymous
are you autistic? seriously asking
do you actually think
>image showing a mob from desolace and a mob from what looks like gorgrond
i think you might have brain damage
6 months ago
Anonymous
bro those are the same mobs now
left is before, right is after
they replaced the left one with the right one
as in, the left does not exist anymore, but now looks like the right instead
does this clear things up
6 months ago
Anonymous
wow, autistic and moronic, the double whammy. they replaced the low poly hyenas with the new model you fricking inbred
https://www.wow-petopia.com/look.php?id=hyena2_dark
6 months ago
Anonymous
You're either blind or you are denying that taking a feral creature with dirt, wounds and scars and making it sterile, rubbery and squeaky clean is a massive art-style shift.
years of nonstop FOMO and high time investment requirements has successfully shielded the blizzard cultist from experiencing better games while also further increasing the sunken cost with every passing day
i honestly believe anyone still playing this dogshit game will keep playing it until they die or the game shuts down. and if the latter happens first the former will promptly follow
>Wowchads >We're so fricking back
That's some basedboy hype right there. OP getting excited because Blizzard went "but this time it will be cool, honest!" as if they haven't said the same before. What did you fricking expect, for them to say "oh yeah, we want to sell some shit you'll hate but we hope you'll buy anyway, you gullible moron"? Get out with that crap.
When will people realise Legion was an accident (that also killed previous expansion instead of improving it but hey) and WoW will never get a good expansion again?
The only thing that made it fun was borrowed powers that were obviously going to be removed. The whole aim of it was to strip down and streamline classes
They're not, especially since some of the changes were a direct result of them taking and implementing fan feedback.
I just think it's fricking cowardly to blame someone else when the choice YOU approved and designed your game around turned it into a fricking shitshow. At least have the balls to say "Yeah we tried that but we think it makes the game worse, as the community might agree now, so we're changing it back".
Offloading every bit of responsibility as if they are just puppets on a string dancing to the official US forum's every whim is tiny dick behavior.
Wow does the exact same thing.Anything they do they'll says "you" asked for this, which is hilarious because with a million people someone definitely asked for anything you want
It's a much better game than it used to be. The only lesson they never seem to learn is how to make side content fun and sustainable. Bozja/Zadnor were almost there, the bosses were fun.
>The only lesson they never seem to learn is how to make side content fun and sustainable.
Another piece of that is "rewarding". That's ultimately Bozja's biggest downfall, it's fricking irrelevant even for Relics, and the armor sets look like ass outside DRS Savage. Meanwhile Eureka STILL has an active playerbase because the rewards are fricking incredible, even though I consider the content of Eureka to be worse than Bozja. The highly punishing nature and inhospitable maps are a plus but the Bozja fights are just better in every regard.
There's also Criterion dungeons which, in their third go this expansion, still are absolutely fricking worthless to play beyond a first clear for an achievement. And outside of that, they don't even do more side content, so you have tons of people quitting and decrying Endwalker as the worst because it does the least to add to the pool of content for people to do.
xiv is only growing because pozzard keep shooting themselves in the foot and there are zero other good MMOs in the market, anything else is pure copium
It's a much better game than it used to be. The only lesson they never seem to learn is how to make side content fun and sustainable. Bozja/Zadnor were almost there, the bosses were fun.
>spamming the same handful of fates for months at a time >fun
lol
maybe if they're troons addicted to ERPing with other grown ass men (wig, dress and crotch wound optional)
as miserable as WoW gets, XIV as an actual game is still inferior to WoW in every way
Sure, I bet your experience with XIV is listening to morons on Ganker
6 months ago
Anonymous
keep projecting. i played it when all my friends downloaded the NPC programming "blizzard is le bad" along with every other assmongoloid cultist a couple of years ago and pressured everyone else to jump on the bandwagon
most of us quit before finishing the MSQ because we weren't even playing let alone together, we were just watching cutscenes and reading NPCs talk to each-other
6 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, so you're just a room temperature asmongold viewer, remember he still sticks to his guns that "Shadowlands is good"
6 months ago
Anonymous
>you're just a room temperature asmongold viewer
for defending a game in which you do read for 90% of its content you really do fricking suck at it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I bought a heavily story based game, why am I spending so much time on story??
There is no need to defend anything, you're just a stupid consumer idiot who did zero research into an informed purchase and literally just went with the fotm game completely blind.
You deserve every bit of misery you got from that time you fricking idiot.
6 months ago
Anonymous
zero reading comprehension as well
it is honestly baffling to me why you play that game let alone defend it
6 months ago
Anonymous
We feel the same about you WoWers. You are perpetually b***hing about the game and saying it sucks yet every time you all try to infest another game you instantly start crying wanting to turn it into WoW.
6 months ago
Anonymous
because the engine is still solid despite nu-blizzard shitting on that engine for years
our games' movement is responsive, your game plays like it's on 90s dialup
our game is fast and feels good to play, yours overcompensates with anime seizure inducing VFXs and a 2.5s cooldown
your game is constantly held back by consoles
it is honestly embarrassing to the genre that yours is the game blizzard are supposed to be scared of
6 months ago
Anonymous
And thus the dishonest poster fully reveals himself. You never played it and are just regurgitating Ganker shitposts like the other Anon called you out on earlier.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>You never played it
why do you morons think this passes as a defence? even if i didn't pay a single cent to SE anyone can simply download the game and play it up to and including stormblood
"playing the game" is not the big filter you homosexuals think it is
6 months ago
Anonymous
>literally nothing he said is completely true >"you never played the game!"
cultist moment
6 months ago
Anonymous
nah it's a based take, shadowlands is probably the best expansion of all time. that absolute trainwreck of an expansion finally killed off "the itch" for me
>as miserable as WoW gets, XIV as an actual game is still inferior to WoW in every way
I don't have much of a stake in this fight but I'll admit that it's not even "As miserable as WoW gets" - WoW already got so miserable for me quite a while ago, enough that whatever redeeming qualities it does have, the overall impression pales in comparison to what I can get from some other MMOs, including online FF games.
You can have all that great content, but if you pile shit on it an then even remake that old great content to sacrifice it on the altar of troon mental illness, I'd rather not waste time on your product. It's just not worth it.
There probably is but the type of people that ERP and could make something like that would gatekeep it hard and you'd have to know the right person to get in. Not that it's a bad thing but annoying if you're on the outside.
Spill the beans anon. You are being way too specific to pull it out of your ass. I can hear the fricking "Teehee, oh, wherever could we find one?" as you typed this shit. Where's the fricking money, Lebowski.
>BfA was shit, Shadowlands will save worlo >Shadowlands was shit, Dragonshite will save worlo >Dragonshite was shit, the FFXIV triology will save worlo >...
>FFXIV
Save the world? Probably not, but since it's not being made by the same people who keep on consistently churning out shit since a long time now, you at least have a good reason to doubt that that one will be shit.
If FFXIV would be made by Blizzard, yeah, it'd be probably shit as well. Thankfully it's not and so it does indeed better.
shadowlands is fun because god made that expansion special. he actually calls himself the jailor, because hes imprisoned our souls in human bodies. if you read the quest text even a little bit, you'd have noticed all the heavy metaphors about spirituality and religion.
damn this place is terrible. terrible, terrible terrible... its just awful.
A game where homosexuals venture into the wild to enslave feral Black folk to please their bottoms would at the very least be funny, something Blizzard hasn't been in a decade
question: do nuwowgays actually, unironically think their game isn't filled with trannies?
do they remember goldshire?
"futa horsewiener draenei"?
"big green wiener" posting?
If anything, wow might have been a considerable contributor for why there's so many people online today larping as women: because they started out doing it ingame
It's just more WoW player denial and projection. Goldshire is the nexus of degeneracy in online games, no other game even comes close to the level of weird, gay and troony shit you'll see there.
>Not interested if you don't do character positioning
What? Using emotes and shit to make it vaguely look like two low poly models are having sex? kek >No any ingame male model
That's a gay in denial.
And that's always the case with you mazed gays, isn't it? >I-I don't play on RP servers! I don't see it so it's not there! >I-I skip the quest text! I don't see it, so it isn't there! >I-I ignore the lore! I don't see it, so it isn't there! >I-I don't read the WQ names! I don't see it, so it isn't there!
Just a constant and endless process of ostriching until you evolve into a mole because you spend most of your time with your head firmly stuck underground.
>Khan
God the Centaur shit in DF was all gay.
Gayer than the rest of the expansuon at least.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The Dragon Isles were gay as a whole.
And all of the Woman Within zones will be, too.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Did we just? >We did
Why
6 months ago
Anonymous
This has been going on for a while. Somehow it got even worse from SL where the epic story makes you follow literal homosexual furries and a troony who becomes the god of the universe.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Quests in Classic: >These fricking Kobolds are causing us trouble, adventurer! Go kill them
Quests in Retail: >Hey, can you go get me some things so I can make a gift for my husband?
This shit is so fricking bad.
I'm not even talking about the gay shit, I'm talking about treating a quest like a trip to the grocery store.
It's supposed to be a quest. A quest! Not a fricking shopping trip.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>These fricking Kobolds are causing us trouble, adventurer! Go kill them
It's funny, actually. In Dragonflight, there was a melty over a questline to wipe out a tribe of Gnolls because they were practicing plague magic and causing trouble and all that.
Some wowgays were crying that wiping them all out was psychopathic and mean.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry sis, we're vegans who believe in zero impact, and want that represented in-game
6 months ago
Anonymous
>These fricking Kobolds are causing us trouble, adventurer! Go kill them
It's funny, actually. In Dragonflight, there was a melty over a questline to wipe out a tribe of Gnolls because they were practicing plague magic and causing trouble and all that.
Some wowgays were crying that wiping them all out was psychopathic and mean.
this game is unsalvageably pozzed.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>game keeps putting out based content >players whine about how right wing it is >"the game is pozzed"
huh?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Killing monsters isn't "right wing"
It was just the norm until recently, when everyone became bleeding heart gays.
wow's story died with the lich king
i don't read anything i don't watch cutscenes i don't give a shit about (E)RP servers
it is all just an excuse for the gameplay, and it is still the uncontested king of MMO gameplay
simple as
6 months ago
Anonymous
>wow's story died with the lich king
Then why are people horking about how Metzen is going to save WoW with a good story? If story doesn't matter?
And just ignoring that it exists doesn't make it not exist. That's called denial.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>then why
mentally buck broken addicts and shills, the same as always
It's a milquetoast centrist libertarian type that says comfortable lies to make normalBlack folk feel better about themselves. He's the archetypical fence sitter and ironically people like him are the reason WoW is a trannified mess of a game.
well, it does excel at being a troony containment game yes
6 months ago
Anonymous
but enough about xiv
6 months ago
Anonymous
well, i wasn't talking about whatever lives in your head rent free
i was talking about the premiere troony containment game with troony npcs and troony gods and troony trees and troony developers.
world of ACKcraft
6 months ago
Anonymous
it's an MMO. you're supposed to play with other people, not NPCs. everyone who plays WoW outside of RP servers is a straight white dudebro and that's why WoW will always win over your catgirl erp chatroom "game"
6 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone who plays WoW outside of RP servers is a straight white dudebro
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
6 months ago
Anonymous
>no counterargument
i accept your concession
now go textfrick another sunnie+ in limsa lominsa
6 months ago
Anonymous
Oh man, you're completely delusional.
Haha, what a joke.
6 months ago
Anonymous
whatever you say troon
6 months ago
Anonymous
sorry, i don't play the premiere troon containment game world of warcraft
6 months ago
Anonymous
a pronoun slider?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Yep! Been working on it since end of SL/begin of Dragonflight. Also the option to pick a male voice as a female and vice versa.
They already changed male and female to body type 1 and 2, so expect these two "options" next.
6 months ago
Anonymous
And this is just the beginning.
(That sounds like a threat.)
6 months ago
Anonymous
How about fixing the male Night Elf faces to not be so damned ugly and misshapen, you worthless hacks?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Did you mean: Pronoun options?
6 months ago
Anonymous
6 months ago
Anonymous
>nothing on gameplay thoughever, that's over xour heads hihi
6 months ago
Anonymous
jejlad
6 months ago
Anonymous
if you don't like warcraft just LEAVE. dicky people love this gameplay, and you just aren't, get over it
>why are the centaur so fricking gay
Why are there even Centaur on the dragon isles anyway. Aren't they all the result of copulation of a degenerate and a giant ugly big tittied earthen thing?
Of course we can make a hahafunny joke about how the Dragon Isles were Azeroth's gay containment island, but we all know the War Within zones will be chock full of it as well.
hardstuck in their childhood
the only thing that still reminds me of the carefree times when they were kids and not constantly worrying about bills, or relationships, or the world passing them by, or the world changing in ways that make it unidentifiable to them.
Even as the game crumbles.
yes i know, that doesn't stop the troons from trying to shittalk the king of MMOs because there's no content in their troon game other than being a porn addict with other grown-ass men
>if i put my head in the sand it doesnt exist wow is still based and redpilled if i put my head in the sand it doesnt exist wow is still based and redpi-ACK
made for bukkake
FIX THE ITEMIZATION IN DIABLO 4 YOU MISERABLE homosexualS, STOP DEFLECTING, IT'S THE ENTIRE REASON TO PLAY THE GAME OR A FOUNDATIONAL PART OF A VIDEO GAME THAT HAS TO FRICKING WORK WELL, LEARN YOU USED TO BE GOOD AT THIS
>YOU USED TO BE GOOD AT THIS
no, they never were
D2 was blizzard north, almost the entire team was let go ~2005
meanwhile blizzard made WoW, which codified the "ilvl is the only stat that matters" standard of itemization that poisons every loot-based game to this day
semantics
With or without ilvl on a item, there would always be minmaxing, ilvl is just another parameter to look at
moron
I accept your concession
...no it isn't. when your ilvl isn't at the centre of things it means that you can have a very very good item that is of lower ilvl. it won't ever be perfect when affix tiers are level locked and they usually are but it can be very good and workable still.
when everything is decided by the ilvl with the bases scaling alongside it it means you will have to frequently drop your well rolled items for higher ilvl random trash just for the base stats alone like damage or armor or whatever. it means there's no itemization throughout leveling since you swap items so frequently and all you care about is base type fitting your character and ilvl being as high as possible, looking at affixes is just a waste of time, whether they're good or bad it's a minor part of things and the item is going to be discarded very soon for higher ilvl anyway. it also means that come endgame every good item you could've gotten throughout campaign or whatever lower level activity there is isn't just non-optimal, it's downright useless because it lacks the base stats.
t. wrong
What you are talking about is sadly outdated design that they deliberately eschew nowadays. The goal is to have everyone on the same level of content so there's no separation and people are never "forced" to run what would be outdated content for themselves just so that someone in the group can get an old, but still, relevant item.
The way it is now, every patch replaces all previous content with a new tier, and that means bringing everyone up to the new level and having ilvls jump hard enough to justify the new shit over old drops, no matter how powerful those effects were. You have people outright b***hing and moaning when an old tierset sims higher than a new one. It's a deliberate choice and, unfortunately, what the entire game is designed around now.
You can get something sort of similar by playing a lvl 20 twink, which is what I do with most of my WoW time. You use items all across 9 expansions to eke out as much as you can, even resorting to lower lvl items to get specific enchants on them or dungeon quest drops for their baseline gem sockets.
It's also really fun just oneshotting dungeon bosses and being accused of hacking.
This is incorrect. Ilvl did t become king until a few patches before burning crusade. In original WoW you could get by through knowing which stats benefit your class, granted a full set of high ilvl epics could have had the raw stats to make up for subpar stat combination but a slow blue weapon was always better than a fast purple weapon for instant attack damage, for example
They will never fix D4
>fix diablo 4
why?
they already got your 70-100$ lol
stop fricking playing blizzard games, its never (repeat, NEVER) going to get better
>you used to be good at this
homie you fricking KNOW that none of the same people who made the games you love are working there anymore
>used to be good at this
By pure fluke. Did you think this downgrading studio who no one wants to even hire into now was going to learn from past mistakes?
They spent 10 years on that, and that's it. Just accept that they're not going to redo the whole game.
>playing video games to collect non-existent junk and see a fake number go up
You deserve your misery, shit eater.
>5 years from now
>"We know we got off to a rocky start with War Within and Midnight, but we think part 3 will really put things back on course"
Meanwhile on Ganker:
"We're so fricking back with The Last Titan!!!!"
Surely this time
shit...
Well surely this time
shit...
Oh, this time it's finally getting fixed
shit...
This time is it totally, we're so fricking back
shit....
Based
And the cycle continues...
WoWomen always have that time of the month where they're "back" and they're "going home".
What's The War Within's story? Who's the super-duper evil guy truly behind everything in the WarCraft universe?
They've run out of toybox villains.
So now the fricking dagger that priests used in Legion is causing mischief.
I hope you have to kill 10 Unstoppable Forces for boar guts. Maybe kill 12 Ashkandi's for Miguel's husband's son.
Oh, they actually remembered the possessed knife?
>Maybe kill 12 Ashkandi's for Miguel's husband's son.
Sounds fun.
They should have gone with the "Nzoth won in BFA and Shadowlands and Dragonflight was a dream" twist, because it would make much more sense for an underground themed WoW expansion
How'd they proceed from there and where?
You could do it a ton of ways but the end-goal would be to reach a "reset" to essentially recon everything post-vanilla, probably before AQ40 except the old gods wouldn't be an issue anymore and the story can head to a different direction since a lot of big names would be dead or locked away like the Jailer and Sargeras
>Nzoth slowly corrupting all of Azeroth and turning them into his black empire
>all of Kalimdor has been taken over
>new Horde capitol in Silvermoon
>Alliance and Horde banding together not to become tentacle mind slaves
>have to go into Kalimdor which is now an eldritch hell to defeat N'zoth who has manifested his physical self in what used to be Orgrimmar, think the visions of N'zoth x10000
It literally writes itself.
I would have the expansion start off with an expedition to Kalimdor as the sailors talk giving us the revelation the heroes were defeated and about to go insane when Wrathion seeing what's happening swallowed them all to protect them from the worst of N'zoth's influence (remember the black dragon scales were what gave the cloak insanity resistance) and so Wrathion sacrifices himself going completely mad while the heroes live on inside him only half insane dreaming the story of SL and DF, you could have the expedition then sight a corrupted Wrathion flying around tearing at himself and attacking anything nearby, we're there to stop him and save the saviors of Azeroth within. Or something like that. I've got 1,000 good ideas about how to manage this story already but that's because I actually like WoW and the characters.
>because Wrathion and Kalimdor are half in the black empire reality time doesn't function properly so the heroes don't age or starve
>we managed to find them by tracking the Heart of Azeroth's magic , remember that fricking neck? You were still wearing it
>after we defeat Wrathion we are stranded in corrupted Kalimdor which is EXTREMELY fricking hostile and it seems we saved the heroes only to die alongside them
>we happen to crash land right on top of Gallywix's bunker where it is revealed he's the only normal living being still left on the continent somehow
>>we force ourselves in as guests and ask how the hell he's still sane
>turns out he has this whole collection of rare artifacts he swindled for just such an occasion and he was waiting for it all to blow over so he could swoop in on the real estate market of newly depopulated Kalimdor
etc it goes on and on
you could even show the evacuation of the major cities and continent as a raid, the last stand of Orgrimmar as everyone is trying to get a teleport or vehicle out
Any fan of the game could write better than the slop Blizzard gives in all of 30s of effort.
I want this so bad
instead we get more troon shit
Black Empire expansion sounded a lot better than the shit we got with Shadowlands.
Azeroth is a ‘world soul’ and the planet is an egg that’ll hatch to become a god
Different factions want to influence what sort of god it becomes
Each of the factions is ‘flawed’ because they each represent an extreme and so it’s up to (You), the hero, to create balance in the forces
Light bad, void bad, order (titans) bad, etc
>Must protect wyett mann from le evil women and minorities.
It was his pile of shit.
Azeroth’s soul is canonically female
The current judge of all souls is a FTM as of shadowlands so I wouldn’t worry about that
>YOU SAVED AN ENTIRE TOWN FROM A DEMON INVASION NOBLE KNIGHT! HOWEVER YOU ALSO DEADNAMED XER BACK IN 1997! ETERNAL DAMNATION IT IS!
>the planet is an egg
>the more influenced the egg, the sweeter the yolk
troony agenda is real.
>eggs are now troony shit
what
Ganker worships trannies now.
>now
there used to be 24/7 threads about traps before on Ganker
they are trying to corrupt the titan soul to serve them, literally everything is corrupted in wow since like 18 years ago
More like 27 years because le retcon.
>Medivh couldn't have just wanted power as a reason for working with demons to open the portal! HE WAS LE CORRUPTED BEFORE BEING BORNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody has any fricking agency in these stupid fricking games.
traps aren't trannies
this
being an egg ks trad red pill as frick
real men are egg and get fricked in the ass by big black wieners
you freaking racist chuds wouldn't get it
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Egg
World egg is a concept more ancient than your entire bloodline and this entire species, dork.
It is only natural that when chaos returns on the block or order retaliates all becomes derailed, including sex incohesiveness and nonsensical (to you) plotlines on meta-scale.
Basically there isn't one.
The simple version is that four factions, each representing a fundamental force in the universe, have been waging war over Azeroth since literally forever because Azeroth is the strongest 'World Soul' (World Souls are god embryos).
Because of this constant war, Azeroth and the beings that evolved on it represent a sort of balance of all four of the forces these factions represent.
So, you see.
This is a story about a World Crafted by War
It cracks me up that Anduin literally looks like the Brendan Frasier meme.
always pissed me off the xpacs never came with at least a free month. you had to buy it and also subscribe
oh fricking please...
same shit with every announcement/release.
>expansion gets announced
>"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!"
>expansion gets released
>"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!"
>expansion gets announced
>"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!"
>expansion gets released
>"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!"
>expansion gets announced
>"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!"
>expansion gets released
>"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!"
>expansion gets announced
>"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!"
>expansion gets released
>"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!"
>expansion gets announced
>"WoW is back baby! this will fix everything!"
>expansion gets released
>"WOOOOOOOOW what a shitty expansion! they just fricked everything up!"
It's actually pretty fun betauser survived shadowlands and got to do dragonflight.
When even normie media is pissing on your story for being moronic you know you fricked up massively.
Who would have replaced him?
Nobody wanted to inherit a dumpster fire that has a bunch of women and minorites pouring gasoline on it.
He has his job because no one else wants it. He's the king of shit mountain because no rational man can stand the smell.
>Who would have replaced him
Anon there are literally hundreds of WoW lore nerds with their own communities from Scrolls of Lore and MMOchampion alongside famous individuals like Nobbel87 and Red Shirt guy. There is an entire community of potential candidates more faithful to the lore than Danuser, but blizzard ignores that talent and hires goblina strippers for it instead
And, what? Those lore nerds take the mantle, walk into the office for the first day, and get a hundred screeching harpies and troons saying why X toxic thing needs a retcon and it was made by awful men so it has no place in the world, etc.
You say frick off, write a coherent story, and get pushed out before it ships.
Or you bend to the way the wind is blowing, and use the games story as your own deviantart fanfiction blog.
Just because there are men FOR a job does not mean those men would be allowed to DO their job.
ah yes the women journalists
>Arcane season 2 is "really good" says League of Legends boss
Incredible journalism
>gaming
>journalism
pick one and only one. web marketing isn't journalism
I dont think there is anything more psychotic in the world of video games than how people know WoW retail is shit yet somehow, every time, get hyped for the next expansion, then 2 weeks after release admit its shit, rinse and repeat for over a decade, absolutely metanl
>WoW is shit now
>Completely unsalvageable
>Still desperately wish you could find a reason to resub and eke some joy out of it again
Please tell me I'm not alone
I'm having fun with WOTLK classic. Found a good guild of some fellow dipshits and we get together to talk shit and smack easy bosses around every week in an expansion when the game was still mostly fun. It's gonna be over for real once Cata rolls around though - I'm not gonna fall for that one again and the seasonal stuff they're doing just isn't for me.
>muh pooor game waaaaaah
Just buy the game you unthinking Black person just turn off you mind and enjoy the latest Marv- I mean Blizzard slop. You want it, Ion wants and Metzen wants it and will leave again if you don't.
>pic related
I wonder if they updated Gazlowe's character yet?
why the frick do half the races even give a shit about this moronic nu world tree
In typical blizzard fashion, if the tree is burned somehow it burns the world. Something Something Fyrakk absorbs elf souls and unmakes the world.
So Fyrakk is the final boss of the Dragonflight expansion?
Yes and there won't be a 10.3 patch, confirming that Blizzard views Dragonflight as a flop on par with WoD and Sneedolands
Yep, if you hadn't noticed blizzard is bailing on DF early. There won't be a third patch.
Megatr- I mean Iridikron got his void mcguffin (featured heavily in the War Within trailer) and escaped a time paradox through a void portal (???)
So BFA basically ends with Fyrakk trying to burn the tree while his sister abandons her principles because her sister said "Sorry :(".
With Metzen back, it's hard to say if Megatron's story will finish in the next expansion.
So much for undoing the Titan's stain, muh proto-drake masterace amiright?
Metzen doesn't want it. If the side-games are any indication, he wants to completely disregard most of the cringe that happened while he was away.
I get the itch to resub all the time come a new expansion but the shit WoW has done to their game always holds me back
>WoW token
>Boosts bots abuse
>refuses to implement actual evergreen content and double downs on focusing around raids and PvP
>classic+ is ran by a skeleton crew that had the wow token by proxy day 1
>classic+ was further raped by boosts
>classic player base is just retail shitters since bwl
>player base is so groomed they're defending the 3 day early access
There's just nothing redeeming about WoW in the slightest. There's a positive feedback loop where the player base just enables the worst behaviors from Blizzard because they're so battered that the game just gets worse and worse over time. The player base has no self-awareness or self-respect. Ion was literally saying the 3 day early access is for people who don't have enough time to play the game but if someone doesn't have time to play the game what the frick is 3 days going to accomplish?
>player base is so groomed they're defending the 3 day early access
you'll buy the game anyway so who cares? even if it were the first expansion not to turn into a buggy mess in the first days you have, what, two weeks to a month to get to level cap before real progression content is unlocked?
>you'll buy the game anyway so who cares?
Yeah, that's what I expect from people who have no principles or self-respect
>bro it's just server xfers
>bro it's faction xfers
>bro it's just a mount
>bro it's just cosmetics
>bro it's just class xfers
>bro it's just a one-off boost
>bro it's just a non-max level boost
>bro it's just a WoW token
>all while paying a sub and expansion fee
And then people wonder why the game is so bad. It's why all of their games besides SC2 and HotS went down the shitter
>Hearthstone has become an unbalanced mess designed to milk out as much money as possible
>Battlegrounds was changed to remove the pass you could buy with gold to having to pay actual money
>Diablo immortal was just a cash cow
>The other new diablo game was a massive dumpster fire
>They destroyed Overwatch and relabeled it as Overwatch 2
>WoW rumble is literally a generic mobile game reskinned with wow characters
>Somehow managed to completely frick up Warcraft III
The base game made by the original creators is so good that their will always be a small chance it could be good again. That's why you keep getting the feeling of wanting to come back and enjoy the game you remember.
But then you log in to retail and realize how the game is being actively mutilated by a team of untalented women, queers and freakshows. Unfortunately, this game is entirely developed around speed runners and overly sensitive leftists. It's evident with how the entire game is balanced around M+ and the story is only about women, disabled people, and homosexual NPCs. The game can never be good again until they clean these people out of the company entirely and change the focus of the game.
I checked out of the story long ago. Game itself is still pretty fun, love playing with my big beautiful Hunter.
>Everybody would have loved sexy strongfat Kul Tiran mommies
>Create fatfat landwhales that even the "body-positivity" players fricking despise because they can't play dress-up Barbie roleplay with it
Why did they frick it up so bad when it was so obvious what they should've done?
I think they're perfect. Big tall plump busty women.
They're just obese Americans
You have to mog one of the shorter pants to see their sexy belly in full view to make playing a KT worth it
unironically, the vulpera and dragqueers set the bar so unbelievably low that I'm not even that bothered by the morbidly obese race anymore
they also have a funny PVP racial if you're DK
every time I see these fat fricks I crack up because they look exactly like my friends cancer ridden mom, if they have the little fortune teller hat on I can't handle it.
Did they ever explain how they thought Shadowlands was a good idea?
No, it was soi devs trying to usurp the old lore with dumb shit.
If was the old dev team, Shadowlands would have probably been 90% spooky ghost shit.
>the devs aren't listening
>ooh i think the devs are listening
>the devs are listening
>the devs aren't listening
>ooh i think the devs are listening
>the devs are listening
>the devs aren't listening
>ooh i think the devs are listening
>the devs are listening
>the devs aren't listening
>ooh i think the devs are listening
>the devs are listening
||I like bellulars video||
You will never feel the joy and sense of wonder when you played as a child/teenager again.
The friends you used to know will never play again.
Nothing will ever feel new or exciting again.
You will always have that lingering feeling that you should be doing something else instead of playing WoW. it will only get worse as you get older.
>You will never feel the joy and sense of wonder when you played as a child/teenager again.
agree. i was lucky enough to play in the beta and be there day one on its launch.
also was able to catch the midnight launches for the expansions with blizzard devs since they did it at my local frys electronics a couple of times.
>The friends you used to know will never play again.
not entirely true. the friends i played with at launch jumped back on when classic was first released. though we didnt stick with it and went back to playing FF14
>Nothing will ever feel new or exciting again.
in WoWs case? yeah, most likely.
>You will always have that lingering feeling that you should be doing something else instead of playing WoW. it will only get worse as you get older.
other than getting back on with Classic. I havent really played the game since Mists.
this is why you should take up serial killing, it never gets old
>You will never feel the joy and sense of wonder when you played as a child/teenager again.
>The friends you used to know will never play again.
>Nothing will ever feel new or exciting again.
>You will always have that lingering feeling that you should be doing something else instead of playing WoW. it will only get worse as you get older.
ff14 gave me all these feelings. kys.
Same as vanilla. They only have a few canned responses in their repertoire. The next one is "you're just not skilled enough to play current wow"
The game is 20 years old and has been shit for AT LEAST half of that at this point.
>WoW lost its way with Battle for Azeroth, but Dragonflight will fix it
>WoW lost its way with Warlords of Draenor, but Battle for Azeroth will fix it
>WoW lost its way with Cataclysm, but Warlords of Draenor will fix it
>Battle for Azeroth
i remember all that shit where they said Battle for Azeroth was supposed to bring the game back to its roots.
i still liked that cinematic though...
bfa was kino and midwits were memed into hating it by streamers because the gearing sucked. Everything else about it was actually good except for the parts they had to abandon because streamertrannies were throwing a fit
>for the parts they had to abandon because streamertrannies were throwing a fit
what parts?
never played the expansion. already dropped wow years ago but i have friends that still play it so i just read things here and there sometimes.
bfa was garbage dont listen to that homosexual
>but it was fine on the last patch where they unlocked everything and added vendors for corruptions
have a nice day
>verification not required
they abandoned warfronts, which was a pve gamemode that required a little bit of trial and error to become kino because people kept b***hing about it. They abandoned corrupted gear (gear that gave insane amounts of power but with certain drawbacks like reduced movespeed or increased damage taken), and they abandoned the x.3 patch, halfassing it so that we didn't even get a new zone, we just got old cataclysm and MoP zones that got "corrupted" and a half-assed Nyalotha raid. Something that could've been an expansion by itself was turned into a halfassed season because people b***hed so much about bfa that they dropped it halfway through development to make shadowlands
>they abandoned warfronts
thank god, warfronts were a fricking snorefest, people were asking for pvp warfronts and blizzard told them to eat a dick
>They abandoned corrupted gear
what the frick are you talking about, they added corruption gear and then they added the vendor, next patch was the next expansion
>half-assed Nyalotha raid
yes
>sucking dicks is not gay
are we really back to 2016?
it's not gay, I only date women and trannies and sucked the latter's wiener before fricking her colon
>it’s not gay… sucked the wiener
Brother..
>thank god, warfronts were a fricking snorefest
because they didn't refine them you fricking homosexual. warfronts had the potential to be great, and youtubers shit on them so hard day 1 that they just gave up. Did you know that we missed out on a Quel'Thalas revamp because you homosexuals complained so much
wrarfronts will always be fricking garbage because killing npcs will never be hard, they needed to be pvp
>we missed out on a Quel'Thalas
who gives a frick about a dead city
so basically they dropped the expansions main gimmick? that sounds so fricking bad. lol
>bfa was kino
Not even discussing azerite gear
Shamans got an iou instead of class changes and so had to play a class designed around legion weapons and abilities, without them and frick them I guess?
Island expeditions sucked and were abandoned
Battlefronts sucked and were abandoned.
Sylvanas' motivations completely contradicted each other and were obviously soft-retconned once the 'le jailor' story was clearly solidifying behind the scenes.
Jaina just copy-pasted her MoP arc again and just sort of randomly gave up on the *dismantle* plan despite having no reason to after the battle patch.
>shamans were just legion class without weapons
shamans were one of the most fun classed to play, I don't know about enh, but ele and resto were fun af, I played every spec (in the game) except enh.
>island expeditions sucked
yup, battlegrounds just sitting there untouched, maybe they don't like the high, exponential internet traffic game mode
>battlefr-
well maybe not, yup blizzard would be that moronic. like battlegrounds just sitting right there, the ultimate, most fun gamemode of all time in wow, untouched for half a decade.
>the lore
the what? Who is sylvanus. Is she a human the orcs want to kill.
>Jaina
yes not enough hot voice actress.
god I hate globohomosexual so much
>BfA
>kino
You mean "Morally Gray", but without the "r".
Sylvanas should never have been Warchief to begin with because the Forsaken were just fricking allies with the Horde. They were never actually supposed to be a part of it. Blizzard manages to continuously forget their own lore even though the Warcraft story is pretty fricking simple.
I blame both blizzard and moronic players from Cata. World of Sylvanascraft could have died considering Blizzard ignored the subject for two whole expansions.
Yet they couldn't let go. Hard to say if it was the devs who made the call or the homosexual players who couldn't drop it got hired and became the devs.
All I know is I wrote a paragraph to a lore forum homosexual about why Calia Menethil becoming the Forsaken Leader because "Sylvnas had to die" in 2012 and guess what fricking happened?
about why Calia Menethil becoming the Forsaken Leader was moronic*
Leveling was fricking soulful. Islands and Battlefronts could have been cool but they shit the bed. Azerite armor was fine unless you wanted to respec more than once in which case FRICK YOU. Corruptions were cool as frick. Mechagon was kino. The devs actively hated you if you played alts.
An expansion about faction war with little to no PvP content in it. Warfronts were a mistake and were an awesome idea for PvP.
Literally WC3-style battlegrounds where you play as the peons and peasants.
BfA is a sad story because they actually had the players kinda hyped at the beginning and then just massively bungled everything about it
It would've been the right time to rework pvp into an actually accessible thing, like it used to be in classic, and get people to actually fight for their faction
Like imagine a reworked pvp system with warfronts allowing you to actually conquer places
Imagine raids with pvp interactions that influence progression
But they took the easy designable route on everything because of engagement-metric driven decisions by a management that panicked about falling subscriber numbers and profit-greedy CEOs, then cut their losses midway through and started pouring dev resources into the next expansion, resulting in massively rushed and halfassed content
PvP just got worse the more progressively flashier abilities got added with each xpack until it became a fricking mess of effects. Play Vanilla and see how easy it is to spot exactly every spell a class is using against you or a group, now try the same in retail. There's no saving it.
it's also just a complete mess with every spec having like 80 different abilities that you need to know in order to actually play the game against them
wow pvp currently is played by a community of like 50 giga autists worldwide and the rest has no patience for this shit, especially because they force you to get clapped for like 500 games before you even get a chance due to gear
MMO pvp but especially WoW pvp should never have been balanced or try to become an esport. It was at its most fun when it was unbalanced, or when the balance depended on the scale of groups to balance an engagement (like AV or Southshore pvp).
They think they're monetizing the friction of new players, not taking into account they can just quit and do
don't they say this with every expansion
>will
The marker word for a nothingburger that is not worth you attention
I literally don't even know what race that elf is anymore, the lore and subraces are so jumbled up and fricked at this point
It's not an elf, it's the shadow priest dagger from legion that's been coped into a character on the basis it talked shit to you sometimes.
Old God dagger possessed a high elf Twilight Cultist. So technically a void elf.
....no
I don't play this game or any MMO while we're at it, but this shit clutters the Ganker catalog and every single time they state that the previous expansion was shit and that the next one will be the best one, how the frick do people still pay for this trash? Are they legitimately moronic?
>I don't play this game
>how the frick do people still pay for this trash? Are they legitimately moronic?
ok troony
>cut out half the post so it doesn't make sense so you can be mad at it
mentally ill
..no
>desmephisto
i hate him so fricking much and can't wait for the day when he ropes
hmm..... nah
>implied lack of consent
>Don't want the raid boss to kill you? Just say no.
>The raid boss cannot legally kill you if you don't give your consent.
It's hilarious when people want villains to not do villainous things.
We've reached a point where cartoonishly evil zombies who have been openly telling you they plan to kill all life on the planet since level 5 now need "consent" from their mind slave that they abducted, lobotomized, and did gruesome experiments on for months.
And people dare to say this game remotely has its shit together.
Go paint me some more fruit bowls, you fricking clowns.
this game is so fricking gay. I wanted to defend this by saying they turned "domination" into a specific school of magic with an implicit meaning that may not apply here, but after reading further they're just fricking homosexuals who don't like to write the no-no words. I hope Metzen fires every single one of these women. Because you know a fricking woman wrote this
You should see what they did with Illidan's harem in the Black Temple. Apparently he was bisexual all along.
i remember gnomes in the original BT, ilidan was always a homosexual
The gnomes and belves were only servants before. Now half of the women have been replaced with men.
>Metzen Won't Do Shit
He isn't the saviour you think he is. It began with hi.
Be honest, of Warcraft's historical dev team, who COULD save it? Who is responsible for the lore people actually like?
Reminder, none of this is due to 'wokeness' this was a smokescreen play by c suite to distract people by getting them mad at the WOKES instead of all their diddling mates who were getting the company sued by state and federal regulators.
>defending a multi-billion dollar company, for free?
imma have to say............................NOPE
Defending the company? I'm blaming the company, you know the officers who make the decisions?
You're blaming some fricking intern like they have the power to make these choices without the nod from higher up.
Nope, you said something that sounded like you were defending Blizzard, you are a tainted homosexual from this moment onward.
>the blizzard shill is now blaming me
frick off troony
Right, so you thought I said something you know I didn't but I am still wrong based purely on the optics of my comment?
I didn't realise I was talking to an SJW.
Nobody is defending them, chief.
Hell, my post was mocking the article you posted.
Ease off the shitpost gas long enough to read.
You’re based, your posts are good, and troons are seething
Never forget their Jaina nerf in Hearthstone.
saved for future anti-shilling..... thanks
Nobody on Ganker plays wowshit anymore so you're wasting your time with "anti-shilling"
exactly what a shill would say
schizo
You're fricking moronic man
it's always these types that end up being molesters and sex pests
anywhere you have shit like this you also have sexual abuse, 100% even if it's not disclosed
I promise you, you'll get word about sexual abuse in the offices of Arenanet in due time.
Till this day it wasn't proved anyone at company actually did anything seriously bad.
I honestly don't give a shit about their "real intentions" anymore. Their games are full of woke garbage, it seems every fricking character in DF is part of the alphabet mafia, half the quest logs are so full of "my husband my husband my husband" they may as well just have outright typed BY THE WAY I'M GAY in there. Hell, the entirety of the Overwatch panel this blizzcon couldn't go two sentences with spouting buzzwords like "diversity", "inclusivity". BRO WHERE'S THE GAMEPLAY
And yet the company itself doesn't believe in any of that garbage, it's all performative. Their employees are breastmilk stealing sexpests, they still bend their knees to china. Remember when they put that troon in a DF showcase (to an emote-only twitch chat full of vomit emotes) and then it ditched the company for Riot?
At best they are spineless panderers. At worse they are fully compromised. Blizzard is a dead company raping the corpses of the IPs I grew up with and deserves no less than bankrupcy and the actual subhuman morons still supporting them deserve to be ridiculed just as hard as mobile game players or gacha addicts.
Truth
amen
>still watches blizzcon
>still goes into threads of games he doesn't like by a company he doesn't like
>other people are the subhumans btw
>Reminder, none of this is due to 'wokeness', it was just to pretend to be woke
Oh okay then, carry on.
Reminder that people pay them to do this.
>then they have the gall to complain to us when it happens
blizzard is just so fricking pathetic and gay, I could never play one of their homosexual Disney games ever again
World of Feelings
This is the most hilarious shit.
They needed to remove the "lack of consent" bit here.
So instead we're supposed to believe that this woman willingly went to the sadistic zombie man and said "h-hey... can you.. uhm... like.. lobotomize me? and then turn me into a drooling pet? it's kind of like a BDSM kink"
My fricking sides.
......nope!
...........................nah
It's absolutely hilarious how these people are such weak whiny b***hes the words maiden and consort send them into the depths of insanity.
this was 2-3 years ago when blizzard was dealing with the lawsuits, nobody was complaining, they were just trying to gain rainbow points
so when are they going to remove the entire mad doctor questline in hillsbrand foothills?
I remember this b***h from cata being one of the few npcs with some personality of her own, couldn't have that could we?
>b***h with personality
My wife. Shame she got neutered in Legion.
>renaming "pearl necklace"
That's how you know coomer morons are in charge
Meanwhile, other games have entire questlines revolving entirely around every single possible dick joke fathomable in rapid sucksession.
Why make interesting content when you can just change some hekkin problematic text
legitimately, unironically, removal of soul
>so desperate for soul that they have to use it in the name
>it just makes it even more soulless
lmao
hmmmm..... nope
Why didn't they just make chat settings to filter out that content from appearing for players who don't want to see it?
because what if the fourth reich will emerge out of wow chat
>9.2 is making me very happy because people keep saying my incubus makes them uncomfortable
>And so when we think about things like /lick, /moan, pounce. Its worth nothing that, while these things can be used in good fun between consenting people, it also exists as a way to suddenly and forcefully create a sense of danger for women when they are trying to enjoy a game.
Do you like things that make people comfortable or not?
It's okay when they make things that make others uncomfortable. Anyone else doing anything that makes them uncomfortable is a big no-no.
It literally has SOUL in the name
It's gonna be sovlfull, bros....
as a white man with a frickload of disposable income, id have to say....................... nah
im thinking... nope!
that'll be a "no" from me chief........
This has to be the most moronic thing people got angry over.
The "dark-skinned Blood Elves" are the Night Elves.
In the lore, all elves used to be the Night Elves who operated as a magocracy centered around the Well of Eternity, an endless source of magic. Their nobility were a caste of mages called the "Highborne." They used magic so much, their very essences became entwined with it. Then the Well of Eternity blew up and the flow of magic from it ceased. This crippled the surviving Highborne nobility, who were promptly overthrown by the Night Elf commoners and banished. These banished Highborne sailed across the sea until they reached Quel'thalas and created the Sunwell with a vial of the waters of the Well of Eternity, creating the Sunwell. However, the Highborne were left pale and stunted by their long withdrawal from magic, creating the High Elves we know today. After Quel'thalas was destroyed by the Scourge, Prince Kael'thas redubbed the remaining High Elves the "Blood Elves" in honor of the fallen and lead them into Outland. (And, yes, "Blood Elf" was originally just a political term to describe the followers of Kael'thas, not High Elves that had consumed fel magic, but Blizzard can't keep their lore straight)
That's why dark-skinned Blood Elves make no fricking sense. They're already in the game, they're called Night Elves. Blood Elves are pale skinned because of the mutations suffered by their Highborne ancestors while they were suffering from magic withdrawal.
More importantly, however, Blood Elves are a magical fantasy race, not humans with pointy ears. Thinking that it's important to include black and brown Blood Elves to be "inclusive" implies that the Blood Elves are human.
The worse part is that Warcraft already has black people as a tribe of humans in Stranglethorn but does frick all with them
It makes no sense because it's a fictional race. It is complete liberal to pretend that ethnic differences in humanity have nothing to do with a phenomenon called specialization based on genetic isolation and natural selection, but to treat it as some kind of rando variation like your eye color.
Ergo any given fantasy race can have a "black, white or Asian" equivalent because it's a coat of paint even though even black people understand an elf ain't a fricking human.
>he doesn't like the choccy elves
>he doesn't like burnt toast
not him but no, I don't
im gonna have to............. decline
I am genuinely surprised that by WotLK Classic, they didn't blackwash Stormwind again and file it under #somechanges.
The WotLK community loves wiener, so they would have cheered it on.
ah yes can't wait for the max level when i can uhhhhhhhhh grind M+ infinitely and uhhhhhhhhhhh raid and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
how is Wow still going?
because it makes money
>but it doesnt make as much as before
so? as long as it makes money it will keep going
This, MMOs are surprisingly cheap to run
>But server costs
As the playerbase shrinks, so does the load they place on servers. On top of that, Blizzard has been able to get away with not only making garbage content, but less of it with each expansion and charge the same prices for all of it. They're still making a profit, but they're definitely not the giant they used to be.
>1 single store mount makes more money than the entire sc2 and all its dlc
i fricking wonder
they're still getting 1+ million people to pay $15 a month. People also buy token to sell for gold. Then the paypiggies which is most mazed freak buy up every fricking mount special. Dropping $150 extra to get a single mount. Truly pathetic!
People say it has ''1mil'' but it is untrue
barely caps out 500k subs a month
horrible bot problem with absolute dead content and world
I'm honestly surprised they haven't removed all of the armors and clothes that show any hint of skin on female models yet, or just replaced them with a body-covering single color.
Players can still bawd it out, but the developers had decided not to use lewd on future characters and dungeon drops.
I'm like 99% sure they removed shorts I had on my female character back in WoD. Can't find them anymore
imma just take a lie down in the cosby suite and drink some b-milk i stole from the fridge, brb
>WoW is so back!!!
Retail gays are so desperate to convince themselves their shit game isn't dead
Reminder: You're mounts/mogs/cheevos are worthless
This time for sure.
That's outdated I'm afraid
No more .3 patches
>lost its way with shadowlands
it lost its way 3 or more expansions before that
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................................nah
Words cannot overstate how much I loathe the disney aesthetics they've gone with
sex with elves
um....................... no
Shadowlands zombie invasion was so much better than the Wrath one.
Organized efforts to stop them could succeed in Wrath, in SL even one zombie could start a fricking town-destroying apocalypse. Shit was the one fun thing about SL.
I waifued alleria in wc2. I can fix her. I can give her a baby. I can console her when turalyon eventually gets offed in a lore breaking loot pinata Dungeon.
I don't know how stupid these people are. But if they think in any way they have improved from Shadowlands and didn't bleed more from the pivot the MMO genre is fricked. DF and Worldsoul are putting more holes in the ship while there's this strange narrative that somehow things are on the right track now. Fricking look at the data. Same mistakes as DF are going to be in Worldsoul and people are still going to be blaming Shadowlands when WW has less players than DF. Eject your esports players. Ban asmongold. Ban Bellular. Frick cosmetic rewards. Shrug off all this pretend bullshit over utopian gameplay loops where the pillars don't interfere with each other and nobody is cross pollinating other pillars. People don't give a shit about titles pets and mounts they want power. RPGs have always been about player power and the sweats b***hing about AP and causing DF has been the most insane shit in the world. The most hardcore group are advocating for anti RPG design because they can't control their mental illness. The game becomes an unfun wasteland because they get what they want. People leave because pets and toys aren't reward loops and they scratch their heads saying Shadowlands did it. Delves ain't gonna fix shit we're going further down boys they haven't seen rock bottom yet.
>current wow sucks
>new expansion comes out
>everybody loves it for a month or two
>then it sucks again until the new expansion is announced
it's been this way for the last 15 years.
It was funny with dragonflight. All the wow streamers were talking about how great dragonflight is, how wow was back, how it was just like how it used to be, and then they were all on wow classic the entire time kek. Not even sure how that's supposed to work out.
I remember even whatshisname the british psycho dude
>Dragonflight is GREAT! The greatest WoW has been in a long time, even!
>But our viewership numbers went way down
>And we really don't have any reason to play...
>But this is WoW's best expansion since WoTLK!
grotesque
>The bareist minimum gets shown
>its enough to get a reaction like this
I can smell the desperation .
they've been desperate for years. it's really quite pathetic
They do this every time.
>Blizzard has SAVED WoW
>Blizzard finally listened
>expansion launches
>[Expansion] has FIXED WOW
>3 months after expansion
>What went wrong...
>Why [Expansion] failed.
>Blizzard we have a problem.
>new patch is announced
>X.1is fixing EVERYTHING
and so on and so on these people have a formula designed to pander to the hype and disappointment cycle of the wowgays
So it's just like Sonic, Zelda, and Final Fantasy.
>The bareist minimum gets shown
no it didn't
was just 2 dudes talking
features were just Shadowlands again, they're still doing 4 raiding difficulties and funneling people into M+, they're still doing the vault, they're still doing fake PVP numbers, shitty itemization with boring items, not going back on the muh feelings plot, not going back on the gay shit that they know for a fact is the biggest thing holding the game back.
Let me put it like this, I started playing WoW when I was like 11 years old, and I thought it was all cool and gritty and shit.
I could tell people "Yeah I play World of Warcraft, it's fricking sick, I'm a Mage, I turn people into sheep and shoot gigantic pyroblasts".
11 year old me would never let a living soul know he played current World of Warcraft, because if I tell someone that I play it, and they google the game, the first thing they see is something embarrassingly gay, or weirdly sexual and fetishistic.
It's more embarrassing than getting caught watching porn, cause it's fricked up and twisted.
It will NEVER be back, so long as the vibe is off.
mmo content creators are all trash no matter what game it is, i have no clue why people bother to watch these wishy washy fricks
That narc guy is unironically a Gankertard who's entire channel is shilling a kickstarter scam while appealing to classicbucks.
Having thousands of views on any video of his is hilarious.
It's possible that Ashes of Creation will wind up being vaporware or just be shit when it comes out, but it isn't a scam.
Scammers don't buy a big brick-and-mortar studio and hire hundreds of developers.
Counterpoint: Star Citizen
Star Citizen isn't a scam, it's vaporware. You can actually play a rough alpha version of Star Citizen right now.
What's more, if there's a scammy part of Star Citizen, it's that CIG is willing to continue increasing the scope of the game indefinitely to up the hype and bring in the whale bux, thus essentially keeping it vaporware in a permanent alpha state.
Ashes of Creation has not increased in scope from the initial Kickstarter pitch. What's more, it's not nearly as ambitious as Star Citizen. Star Citizen is looking to create something that has essentially never been done before. Ashes of Creation wants to create a somewhat-ambitious mix of systems that have been implemented in other MMOs already. Namely, it's clearly been influenced by a lot of the shit that was in ArcheAge.
Scammers don't claim their game is fully funded and they don't need anymore money, either. They claim that they could just get across the finish line or add just one more cool feature if they just had a bit more money. Intrepid isn't doing that.
Now, they ARE selling expensive alpha keys to anyone who wants to buy them, which might be a scam if Intrepid Studios was a not-for-profit charity. However, you will notice that they're a for-profit business and that it isn't generally regarded as a scam when for-profit businesses try to make a profit.
Many popular MMOs were pretty graphics intensive when they first game out, including WoW actually. I remember when it first came out, some older machines couldn't run it and lower end computers like you might have gotten from Best Buy would chug a bit running it and you'd have to play in potato mode.
"It doesn't have a unique artstyle" is a complaint you borrowed from Asmongold.
>Star Citizen isn't a scam, it's vaporware.
It's a matter of perspective.
Their business isn't making a game, it's milking whales with a promise of a game.
I'd say stringing idiots along to squeeze as much money as possible out of them with no intention of actually releasing anything is very much a scam.
The only scenario where SC is ever released is if/when whales finally decide to leave and they need to do a final squeeze. At that point the game will "release", but it still won't be finished.
>Their business isn't making a game, it's milking whales with a promise of a game.
They have, in fact, made a game. You can play it right now. It's a buggy mess of an alpha that isn't yet anything like what was promised, but it does, in fact, exist. With ships and sci-fi cities and everything. In fact, they're now claiming that they're ready to start rolling out the singleplayer version.
They are clearly developing something. What could be regarded as a scam is that they seem to be keeping the game in this permanent alpha stage while just promising players more and more to get money. So, if there's a scam, it's that the game that's being developed is designed more to string players along and get them to keep buying from the cash shop rather than to actually complete the game. So, the game itself isn't a scam, so much as the business practices around the game. The game itself is actually being made. Whether they have any intention of finishing their game within the next century is another question entirely.
>They have, in fact, made a game. You can play it right now.
They don't even have properly functioning netcode or physics. If you pay me $1000 for a premium product and I get you the cheapest piece of shit from walmart, won't you feel scammed?
If I got something different from what I was being sold, sure. If I got the thing I wanted, but it turned out to not be as good as was I was lead to believe, it would be a rip off, but not a actual scam.
The actual scam CIG is running is similar to what Yanderedev is doing with Yandere Simulator. Which is create small "hype" updates which bring in interest and donations, but don't get the game any closer to completion.
>thing I wanted
It's missing 90% of the promised features, the ones it does have are barely functional, and it's 9 years and $700 million past the delivery date with no end in sight.
The single player game only exists in short promo videos with no gameplay, same as it's been since 2015.
I don't know about you, but to me it looks like they're doing the bare minimum to keep the scam going. Early adopters of pyramid schemes get paid too, you know.
>"It doesn't have a unique artstyle" is a complaint you borrowed from Asmongold.
Are they wrong though? It looks like every other unreal game. Intrepid must nail this part if they intend to retain players.
yeah they do, what the frick do you mean?
If Steven wants to scam people out of 3M dollars, do you think he will get every single person on the team in on it?
He needs things to show to get more money, so he pays legit devs to do it, but he'll disappear before release and the game is never going to get off the ground.
It's been said a million times but I'll say it again: There is no future for a highly graphically intensive MMO like Ashes of Creation.
Things that become really popular are accessible from a hardware standpoint first.
Fortnite, Genshin, Among Us, etc. by virtue of running on phones, these games run on the shittiest laptops and have no issues running on consoles either.
Games like WoW are in the same category.
Games like GW2 and ESO tried, but their optimization is shit on top of their aesthetics also being shit.
Since I brought up aesthetics, if I told you to imagine something in the Ashes of Creation aesthetic, would you be able to?
The artstyle is anemic and uninspiring. Impossibly generic.
It's just not going to work.
Kinda irrelevant to my point
1. Narc is a Gankertard and drapes himself in the aesthetic of Ganker to appeal to Gankertards (which is sad in its own right)
2. Regardless of whether ashes of creation is a scam. He's a scammer, he literally posts fanfiction copium about the game he knows isn't real in ways that impute he's talking about features and the like.
Wait she's actually a high elf? So she's not even that old. I thought she was meant to be some ancient unfathomable being playing 4d chess. What were the vague whispers in legion? Just her being an obtuse c**t on purpose?
In BFA the Shadow Priest legendary weapon from Legion, a sentient dagger rumored to be a betrayed Old God, shows up again. You help her basically transfer her soul into the corpse of a high elf cultist named Inanis through a pact with N'zoth.
Xal'atath then fricks off with her new body and the old dagger is used to help kill N'zoth at the end of the expansion.
So no, the dagger is using a high elf as a body, what the being in the dagger is hasn't been made canon but probably a 6th old god that was butchered and turned into a dagger.
The Narc video was sarcastic.
Narc is a confirmed Retail hater.
Were at the point where content creators have to shill, not out of genuinely being fooled or paid but out of desperation. Views for Warcraft news and just Warcraft in general is at a all time low and if Warcraft doesn't regain at least some of it's popularity, a lot of these channels will probably start to be untenable, money wise. I mean just compare Bellular's views for Legion/BFA to now or even fricking SL. Customer apathy is a big problem and if 3 "Expansion" announcements and Classic+ Lite can't bring in views it might actually be over.
>the views on the stuff
holy hell wow really fell down.
holy frick i hate nixxiom so much
I honestly don't understand this. They barely gave any actual information at all with that presentation. Did they really just fall for Metzen doing growly voices and begging them to come back?
Yes.
WoW fans are desperate morons who will grasp at even the flimsiest of straws if it can comfort them that their dying game has somehow been 'saved' from it's gradual and continuous decay.
TELL THEM A FIUCKIN' STORY
It's time.... to come home.
Sounded good.
Give me a reason. Giving me the names of three expansion is not a reason.
Frick off.
I saw somebody else point this out during the event; Every single person Vlizzard brought on stage for the opening ceremony was a limp wristed corporate mouth that had no excitement or passion. The closest you got was the Hearthstone lady and she was stuck presenting stuff people already knew about for a dying card game. Then Metzen came out and immediately started getting involved with the crowd.
It's representative of what's gone on at Blizzard, especially with WoW for the past THREE expansions. Three whole expansions of being told to sit down and shut up because some shitty characters designed in board rooms have to fly around being invincible while they uproot as many parts of the lore as they can in the shitty new places that popped up out of nowhere. There's a reason Azshara is the best fricking character in BFA, and it's because at the very least she acted like a proper villain like she should. Same reason Denathrius was liked and why Garrosh's little cutscene was by far the best one in Shadowlands.
Metzen comes out and goes "Hey we're gonna go fight some fricking Nerubians, later on we're gonna fight the Void in Quel'thalas, and the we're gonna go back to fricking Ulduar to see some cool Titan shit go down", and people are instantly on board because Jesus fricking Christ the last three expansion have been fricking awful. Dragonflight manages to be the best purely out of the fact that it's hyper generic filler rather than just egregiously painful slander against the setting.
Now process that Metzen was last second (month) addition and try to imaagine what would the whole show looked if there was no Metzen at any point.
If Metzen wasn't there this Blizzcon unironically would have killed Blizzard.
Indeed, I suspect somebody (with leftover brain) inside reached the same conclusion, hence the hasty come(home)back.
The worst part is that these videos proclaiming that the game has been 'saved' barely have anything of substance to say.
I know because I've actually watched the Nixxiom one, it's just stupid fricking click-bait bullshit. The whole video is 15 mins of vapid rambling about nothing and re-stating parts of the announcement.
>re-stating parts of the announcement.
This has been going on for fricking ever. I remember that Panzer girl used to just read mmo-champion news verbatim
YAS DOOD! This is the one! We're finally coming home!
it's pretty funny that people listen to a goblin that lives in his dead mother's attic with blood from his fricked up teeth on the walls and think he knows anything
I still can't fricking believe this moron got his own mother killed. Yeah, she was going to die pretty soon anyways but she couldn't function without him making him her, by anyone's definition, guardian and he just let her smoke on oxygen causing it to explode. He's so fricking lucky he wasn't her legal guardian
>it's pretty funny that people listen to a goblin
Only if he shills the game.
If he doesn't, he's that "filthy hating chud"
oh he'll shill it
he can talk to the blizzard devs now and he got paid for that wow commercial for dragonflight that he appeared in for all of 2 seconds
>the reddinfluencer double spaced assertions
Zack la feint
Night Media and Microsoft/Activison have the same corporate conglomerate owners, along with YouTube and Twitch.
It's insane how zoomers are even more corporate controlled than the boomers.
I haven't watched Narc in ages but I'm assuming that title is sarcastic and the video is probably just shitting on Blizzard as he usually does.
>Worldsoul will undo all the setting damaging lore BfA and Shadowlands plastered everywhere with blackjack and hookers
how much money does it actually cost to make a MMO?
Depends on how big you're making the base game, so it needs to be pretty big and costly to net a decent playerbase. High starting costs, cheap to maintain, so if you get that playerbase, it pays for itself rather quickly, then you get into profit territory. Issue is that fricking nobody plays these games anymore, not in the numbers you'd need to make back your initial investment before interest fizzles out.
why do incels play MMOs so much then?
It's actually volcel because MMOs are like a second job. MMO players remove themselves from the dating pool, but this is not always the case, sometimes they were never in the dating pool to begin with. That said, I actually once knew a married couple who played WoW together, got both of their kids into it, too.
>how much money does it actually cost to make a MMO?
To make an MMO.
Not really because those games Save for the newest zelda are all usually new games World of Warcraft is a game that has shit tacked on and on and on for several years and every time they do it brings the overall quality of the game down atleast past wrath
you sure you got the right guy here?
Why did the writers do absolutely nothing with that sword in Silithus for 5-6 years?
They realized they could copy the Ascians/Hydaelyn story once it concluded in Endwalker, you even have Hydaelyn talking to Anduin now
shouldve just done WoW 2
this shit is ass
WoW 2 would be suicide if they didn't do character migration
people have invested so much time and money into their characters that half if blizzards business model relies on sunk cost fallacy. Wow2 would likely abolish all the ingame store bought shit people paid stupid amounts of money for.
FFXI is still running just keep WoW on maintenance mode to continue milking the middle aged crack addicts and make WoW 2 a good game from scratch, not that they are even capable of this
>they should just make wow 2
Yeah simply as that 🙂 just make game good!
>Doesn't mention Dragonflight
You deserve it for believing in them
>playerbase spends all of dragonflight complaining about dragonflights awful "muh feelings" story
>cinematic is literally zero action, and all "muh feelings"
I can't believe you cucks actually believe this fixes anything. I unsubbed right after seeing that cinematic, this IP is dead.
>playerbase spends all of dragonflight complaining about dragonflights awful "muh feelings" story
The only thing I complained about with the expansion was how much dragon flying sucks. I'm surprised there's still people who even care about the story.
>I unsubbed right after seeing that cinematic
>I unsubbed
You are just as braindead as the rest of them.
female Draenei are so damned hot
Thank you for posting a picture of my wife, isn't she beautiful?
i don't give a shit about the boring light vs void shit. i don't care about titans and what they're up to. i want to be a lowly adventurer helping some peasant get wolf pelts, but most importantly i want the story to revolve around interesting characters that we can actually fricking care about. arthas, thrall and etc are so memorable because they have tangible stories, why would i give a shit about some random cosmic entities doing stuff
because the player character is canonically stronger than any of those characters now
idc, make them weaker again, find some bullshit reason
Wow lost its way with the first expansion
Anyone who thinks differently is an adhd slop eating moron (My wife)
WE'RE SO BACK
Steve Danuser writing something so fricking dogshit that pyro has another meltdown will be IRL kino far better than anything that happens in wow itself.
Is he just going to cycle through them now.
How long before he has another public meltdown after someone calls him out for beating his wife and kids
or is that one of the other chasers
if i wanna play vanilla should i play this era thing or private servers?
And the wow cycle continues.
they going to force feminism ~~*again*~~
sounds gay
I never really understood the voidshit with Alleria. Obviously, they want to go for this thematic juxtapoition with her husband cool ok. And they're going with 'power isn't good or evil it's how you use it' thing (which is a retcon, seeing as fel literally leeched the life out of draenor but ok), I get that.
But why her? She was literally just a ranger, pure physical class. She never did anything magic or magic adjacent in WCII, she has no special connection to the void. She's not even really a void elf like the void elves are because her path was different.
Given all the weird shit with the void Ethereals I feel like some particular writer who paid attention in BC and wanted to really drill in the newer chronicles lore and needed a character to explore it.
There really wasn't a viable rep for the new lore because Spriests basically had just gotten a complete lore revamp before legion, so they just went with some of the returning characters.
>juxtapoition
Do wowclowns actually believes this shit?
He was the big guy, the alpha, the gigachad, he has everything, everyone loves him and want him to be the king of fricking PLANET
And their son, the son of a white male and an elf was the chosen one
They gave her void powers because equality
Their son did frick all.
Too many women and homosexuals developing the game. Same reason everything sucks.
We back Ganker?
YOOO WE'RE SO BACK, BABY!
I like their skin, the gems and rocky texture are a nice addition. But you just know the beard shit is a troon agenda.
don't care still not playing your troon game
Shits fricked.
A game won't become soul just because you call it soul, morons.
More like worldsoulless
thats exactly american thinking actually
Behead Blizzdrones
why don't they just make a good game?
the people who could code left for greener pastures
I legit can't believe this guy is actually real. Like what a embarrassment.
How did he even manage to get a wife and kids
This is beyond my comprehension
How is his wife not feeling second-hand embarassment from the online antics of the father of her child?
Girls like her like nerdy simps. Like Ethan Klein
He's paying for her kid and making money with her name plastered over his brand while she barely shows up between dates anymore.
Once the income goes down enough she'll leave officially to protect the size of alimony and child payments.
How will they fix it when most of the old guard is gone.
Even Samwise left
>actually enjoy levelling up and trying out different talents
>get to level cap
>game turns into a soulless lobby for M+, raiding, pvp
>unsub
every time
i hope delves are OK
delves don't give you good enough gear from what they told us in QnAs.
It's comparable to normals/heroics
>delves
t. islands 1.9
enjoy levelling up and trying out different talents
>>get to level cap
>>game turns into a soulless lobby for M+, raiding, pvp
reminder that this more than anything is what killed wow
"endgame" as a concept needs to be purged
>wow is bad because.... quest logs have words i don't like!
ok but it's still the best MMO in the market
Weird copium dose
Not even the biggest hardcore raiders agree with you:
https://www.twitch.tv/scripe/clip/MoistSmoothCatHassanChop-9bPqOfnG66MZ_2it
>wow is bad because... e-celeb said so
get some real friends and form your own opinions instead of downloading the latest NPC programming
said the blizzdrone npc
>plays retail WoW
>calls others NPCs
Bold move.
>wow is bad
yes you fricking moron, stop giving blizzard money
retoilet wow is still being made by the same blue hair's who though dracthyr deviant art scalies was an acceptable race.
Not to mention the troony dwarves with female beards they are adding.
they say if you install WoW, you instantly troon out, is this true?
no that creature trooned out because ion told the devs to play xiv so they could steal ideas
giga-cope
The things they are working on and self-awareness to point out what wasn't working and that they need to change the entire formula and delivery schedule of the content to keep up in the future is a very good sign. I liked basically everything that they have shown at BlizzCon, not least of all that they are FINALLY trying to bring out expansions quicker by having shorter content release cycles. My dream would be a yearly expansion but given that they are still working on their "seasonal" schedule I don't think that's happening.
However, this is Blizzard we are talking about. Ion says a lot of things if the day is long enough and Blizzard has been saying that they wanna do faster expansion releases since fricking Burning Crusade.
But I'll be damned, I'm actually cautiously optimistic for this one. Might even play it. Eventually. Not on release.
Riley Reid if Elf
Knaifu might actually get more porn than Riley Reid
>A is great
>A is shit, but B will make it great
>B is shit but C will make it great
>C is shit but D will make it great
Do people actually fall for this?
https://x.com/KalebPrime/status/1722093615155949723
Some guy posted this in FFXIV threads to convince them that WoW's cutscenes are better.
No they fricking didn't.
If anything that was false-flagging. Lying to stir up shit in such a transparent and obvious way that it ruins the purpose of lying in the first place.
Just like you are doing now. Why can't people just talk about fricking video games anymore, it's all tribalistic shit-flinging.
>shit up every other MMO thread for well over a decade
>things turn around for once
>"h-hey now let's be reasonable, ugh stop the tribalism please!"
Nah, keep crying Blizzcuck.
you are an annoying homosexual
Cope, wowtroon
There's nothing sadder than people who genuinely believe this is still the same company as in 2004. Notice how barely anyone calls them ActiBlizz.
Name one "bizarre narrative decisions" of Shadowlands. You won't because you can't.
>actually, this writer's pet who constantly did horrible shit was the good guy all along!
>destroyed all the mystery of the afterlife
>destroyed every in-universe religion
>retconned the architectural inspiration for the scourge originally being from nerubians
>you took the fricking necrolord sigil directly into the fricking lair of the big bad you fricking moron
and these are all just from the top of my head
>Jailer's plan is ???
>Jailer is using a thing in Zereth Mortis, a place outside of fricking reality to craft after lives(?????) to activate the Forge of Souls beneath Icecrown Citdael, which actually was planned and built by the Lich King all along to siphon Azeroth's world soul somehow to do ???
>The Jailer wants to "rewrite the laws of reality". What the frick does that mean? What is the endgoal of that? What would those new laws even be? Just that he can dominate shit? He can already do that.
>"Actually I was good all the time, I was really just trying to protect us from ... from ...
>Sylvanas starts a world war, genocides Teldrassil, unleashes an Old God that VERY NEARLY KILLS THE WORLD and is ripping reality apart but the Jailer acting entirely in character and doing nothing different than usual is now causing her to have a crisis of identity and betray him for literally no fricking reason and he REWARDS her for it by giving her soul back, which he has no reason to assume would actually kill her, given that he knows about Uther.
>Mueh'zala, 2 seconds before you kick his shit in goes "Oh by the way here's all the things I caused that people wondered about bye, we'll never talk about this or mention me or my impact ever again"
Making a homosexual troony be a super special snowflake that didn't forget his previous life unlike basically everyone else in Bastion despite being there for a significantly longer period of time. This is on top of him being sent there SPECIFICALLY because he was such a "good fit" for it since you had to be specially picked to go to one of the 4 realms otherwise you would go to your normal afterlife
Shadowlands is full of narrative moronation
entirety of sl is one giant shitshow. you name one decision that is not bizzare, asshat
Metzen was WoD. Metzen is still WoD. His return (full powa) is a very bad news for us.
WoD (forma completado) would be fricking kino and the best expansion by a mile.
Femdwarf beards is just classic fantasy. I'm surprised it took this long.
>WoD would be kino if it wasn't shit
Learn to read dipshit
I said it'd be kino if they finished it, not if it wasn't shit. It most likely still would be shit even IF we had 2 more raids, full garrison customization including zone and subzone placement, 2 more zones etc etc etc.
Shit games can still be kino.
>Femdwarf beards is just classic fantasy.
>trying to seriously pull the plausible deniability card with fricking ActiBlizz
Insisting that you can't do things purely because "the wokies" might like it is fricking brainrot. Drink bleach.
>doubling down on your moronation
Yeah dude, they totally decided to suddenly go "classic fantasy" (which btw never happened this way).
>Femdwarf beards is just classic fantasy.
This is a myth btw and was treated as a joke back then.
How come every WoW player is genetic dead end that deserves nothing but death to them and the people who enabled them?
have you seen what the game does to people?
>XIV player
>Be curious about WoW since shitposters keep saying that XIV is a troony game and to come back to "home" to worlo
>Mfw this thread
I've been had
I mean FFXIV is a troony game but WoW is a troony and furry game with less content
See, that's where I disagree.
From this thread alone, I can see that WoW is pozzed as frick.
Meanwhile XIV doesn't really have any of that sort of thing, no gay couples, no race color change, no painting change, fricking hell the first dungeon is STILL a pirate rape cave with rape slave in it and still a reference to a previous queen of a main city captured and raped in said cave.
That sort of thing wouldn't exist in WoW today.
BUT for some reason, trannies fricking love XIV and play it instead of the actual pozzed game made and changed for them.
Really boggle the mind.
>no gay couples
There's the male Midlander/Miqo'te couple who gives you the quest to help the Tonberries in the ARR post-2.0 content.
That's the only instance of an obvious gay couple, and isn't even shoved in your face, heck IIRC it's not even a main story dungeon so you can even ignore it lmao
iirc that was actually someone at the english team that did that and they got fired for it
but that's just what i heard
So why didn't they change it, and why do the handsome men smile and make eyes at each other while they tell you about the situation?
>I mean FFXIV is a troony game
Show proof that isn't just a years old screenshot of a random guy saying "trans rights" in chat. Because if that's all you have then literally every game is a troony game.
The best way of summarizing it is that the troons have taken over the asylum in WoW whether as the Jap devs haven't trooned out yet in FFXIV.
filter troony, furry, troon and woke and you're left with people actually playing videogames instead of pol tourists
The board will be empty except for 2 posts in the hgame general.
Actually yeah, sounds like an improvement.
sounds about right
most people just assume shit about the game based on 1-2 second webms and images that are often also manipulated
whenever there's a dev highlight and a trans person is on screen for like 0,3 seconds of the 40 minute presentation that's all you're gonna see here
I played both ffxiv and wow for a pretty long time now; claiming that wow stole elements from ffxiv is very reductive and selective. the only actual parallel you can draw is that ffxiv took the design philosophy of wow combat all the way back in ARR and that's about it
Dragonflight is pretty okay, has quite a good amount of random stuff to occupy yourself with, progression has the best system since mop, all around a very player friendly expansion. The story is shit in the sense that it's very barebones and uninspired, which is a massive improvement over the shit we got before. It's like the opposite of ffxiv in that sense, because in that game there's barely anything to do but the story and characters are pretty good.
>most people just assume shit about the game based on 1-2 second webms and images that are often also manipulated
>a trans person
>Dragonflight is pretty okay
Sounds like they made the correct assumption.
Preaching to the choir. Played both, quit XIV in 6.3 because I have ran out of content I want to do and they are insistent on not adding any more. Dungeons and raids seem repetitive the more I do of them, all classes play the same, and Dawntrail seems to be literally just more of the same. I need new shit. And I am almost pissed that WoW is doing more innovation than XIV.
It's literal fricking fanart from Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/qzs6ft/stormwinds_visitor_fanart_made_for_hearthstone/
>WoW isn't that pozzed actually
>btw I think FFXIV really sucks and is sooo bad, sister!
Did you reply to the wrong post
No one said either of those things, not even remotely
Yes, that's what I said.
Looks the exact same as
Yeah, and when I actually played WoW it turned out to be full of troony, furry, troon and woke shit. What now?
>just bury your head in the sand bro
>years later: what went wrong?
Nightmare fuel on the right
It's fake, but the general style does fit well enough to fit right into Hearthstone.
The only fake thing is the beard and the glasses. The original art is even gayer if you ask me. Someone post the unedited version please.
>It's fake
bro?
Weird that it's so hamfisted
Me in the back, showing my big cheese to the cute draenei chick
>It's fake, but the general style does fit well enough to fit right into Hearthstone.
lol
lmao
it's fanart that blizzard liked so much they hired him for official art, that's even worse.
>let me be the voice of reason here, this whole thing about "wokeness" is so silly
>both games have good and bad sides, but FFXIV is definitely shit and I won't play it anymore
>btw I'm a troony and the source of the problem
>course correct
>blizzard
...so more troony shit
>MEANWHILE
Also have they fired steve danuser?
>expansion trailers 15 years ago
>the lich king raises a massive fricking undead dragon and it flies over an army of undead
>expansion trailers today
>therapy session featuring thrall and the son christie golden never had
>Military recruiting ads 20 years ago
>High-tech weaponry, tactics, combat, sense of pride among men
>Military ads now
>Rebecca from some upper-middle class neighborhood with a bachelors in social science and two moms joins the military to push boxes
>Also have they fired steve danuser?
He's been demoted and ahoved into the cuckshed. Now they just need tobdo the same to Golden, who was probably responsible for the abortion of a story in Dragonflight. If things are as they appear with TWW, she's also been shoved down.
He's still the Narrative Director.
the art team carries the game heavily
no real other mmo game out there that has classic fantasy races that don't just look like slightly different
too bad the rest of the game is fricking shit
>the art team carries the game heavily
>the art team carries the game heavily
Bro the game looks like utter fricking garbage what the FRICK are you talking about
It's LAUGHABLE by today's standards
>the art team carries the game heavily
Drek'thars been in a wheelchair since cata prepatch
drek'thar is in a wheelchair because he's fricking geriatric and no in-universe magic can reverse damage done by age
that homosexual dragon is in a wheelchair because he identifies as terminally handicapped
>the art team carries the game heavily
do people ACTUALLY AND UNIRONICALLY think this disney reject slop looks good?
What the frick they made gnolls gay furries
you guys really need to stop just blindly reposting shit
this is his actual model
it's the same fricking model you moron, they just gave him another set of armor
>look, it's actually just slightly better than complete garbage!
wow it... still looks like it was made by a furry reject who didn't cut it for pixar
>the gnoll animal creature from 2005 was remade into a gnoll animal creature from 2020, what is this furry shit
the first one looks like the rabid savage gnolls are supposed to be, the second one looks like an inbred worgen and could pass as a furry's avatar. you are a dishonest moron not worth engaging if you deny this
they literally are the same except one is higher fidelity
stop being obsessed with furries
are you autistic? seriously asking
do you actually think
looks the same too?
>image showing a mob from desolace and a mob from what looks like gorgrond
i think you might have brain damage
bro those are the same mobs now
left is before, right is after
they replaced the left one with the right one
as in, the left does not exist anymore, but now looks like the right instead
does this clear things up
wow, autistic and moronic, the double whammy. they replaced the low poly hyenas with the new model you fricking inbred
https://www.wow-petopia.com/look.php?id=hyena2_dark
You're either blind or you are denying that taking a feral creature with dirt, wounds and scars and making it sterile, rubbery and squeaky clean is a massive art-style shift.
yeah it looks fricking horrible
Why yellow, why is his fur so many colors?
its weird seeing a model from 2022 standing among a forest and land made from 1999
even that line is long past its credibility
>Check out some streams/YT vids of 10.2
>Escorting a big tree guy
>Planting seeds(?)
>Rares
>Campaign quests
Emerald Dream (the zone) looks cool, but is that really it? How many people are on the dev team at the moment? What are they all doing?
yes. timeless isle has done irreversible damage to endgame zone design
>the game will be good, says company trying to sell it
Why drones are so moronic?
years of nonstop FOMO and high time investment requirements has successfully shielded the blizzard cultist from experiencing better games while also further increasing the sunken cost with every passing day
i honestly believe anyone still playing this dogshit game will keep playing it until they die or the game shuts down. and if the latter happens first the former will promptly follow
>Wowchads
>We're so fricking back
That's some basedboy hype right there. OP getting excited because Blizzard went "but this time it will be cool, honest!" as if they haven't said the same before. What did you fricking expect, for them to say "oh yeah, we want to sell some shit you'll hate but we hope you'll buy anyway, you gullible moron"? Get out with that crap.
When will people realise Legion was an accident (that also killed previous expansion instead of improving it but hey) and WoW will never get a good expansion again?
I've been saying this for years. The game is a hive of dorks who store self-worth at radier.io
The only thing that made it fun was borrowed powers that were obviously going to be removed. The whole aim of it was to strip down and streamline classes
You'd never see Yoshida admit XIV lost its way lol. I respect blizzard admitting they fricked up.
The XIV team just openly blames the community when the changes they make and approve turn out shit.
okay but are they wrong? most moronic gameplay shit that came out of WoW was also indirectly caused by the community, especially addons
They're not, especially since some of the changes were a direct result of them taking and implementing fan feedback.
I just think it's fricking cowardly to blame someone else when the choice YOU approved and designed your game around turned it into a fricking shitshow. At least have the balls to say "Yeah we tried that but we think it makes the game worse, as the community might agree now, so we're changing it back".
Offloading every bit of responsibility as if they are just puppets on a string dancing to the official US forum's every whim is tiny dick behavior.
Kek true
>YOU MADE US DO THIS YOU MADE US MAKE OUR GAME WORSE
How the Japanese manage to be both stubborn and spineless I'll never know.
Wow does the exact same thing.Anything they do they'll says "you" asked for this, which is hilarious because with a million people someone definitely asked for anything you want
Yoshida admits when he's wrong or fricks up. Maybe it hasn't lost its way considering the playerbase grows with every expansion.
>growth = good
Tumors and weight gain are good, more news from burgeristan at 10!
It's a much better game than it used to be. The only lesson they never seem to learn is how to make side content fun and sustainable. Bozja/Zadnor were almost there, the bosses were fun.
>The only lesson they never seem to learn is how to make side content fun and sustainable.
Another piece of that is "rewarding". That's ultimately Bozja's biggest downfall, it's fricking irrelevant even for Relics, and the armor sets look like ass outside DRS Savage. Meanwhile Eureka STILL has an active playerbase because the rewards are fricking incredible, even though I consider the content of Eureka to be worse than Bozja. The highly punishing nature and inhospitable maps are a plus but the Bozja fights are just better in every regard.
There's also Criterion dungeons which, in their third go this expansion, still are absolutely fricking worthless to play beyond a first clear for an achievement. And outside of that, they don't even do more side content, so you have tons of people quitting and decrying Endwalker as the worst because it does the least to add to the pool of content for people to do.
xiv is only growing because pozzard keep shooting themselves in the foot and there are zero other good MMOs in the market, anything else is pure copium
>spamming the same handful of fates for months at a time
>fun
lol
Surely people can enjoy XIV despite WoW being dogshit
maybe if they're troons addicted to ERPing with other grown ass men (wig, dress and crotch wound optional)
as miserable as WoW gets, XIV as an actual game is still inferior to WoW in every way
Sure, I bet your experience with XIV is listening to morons on Ganker
keep projecting. i played it when all my friends downloaded the NPC programming "blizzard is le bad" along with every other assmongoloid cultist a couple of years ago and pressured everyone else to jump on the bandwagon
most of us quit before finishing the MSQ because we weren't even playing let alone together, we were just watching cutscenes and reading NPCs talk to each-other
Okay, so you're just a room temperature asmongold viewer, remember he still sticks to his guns that "Shadowlands is good"
>you're just a room temperature asmongold viewer
for defending a game in which you do read for 90% of its content you really do fricking suck at it.
>I bought a heavily story based game, why am I spending so much time on story??
There is no need to defend anything, you're just a stupid consumer idiot who did zero research into an informed purchase and literally just went with the fotm game completely blind.
You deserve every bit of misery you got from that time you fricking idiot.
zero reading comprehension as well
it is honestly baffling to me why you play that game let alone defend it
We feel the same about you WoWers. You are perpetually b***hing about the game and saying it sucks yet every time you all try to infest another game you instantly start crying wanting to turn it into WoW.
because the engine is still solid despite nu-blizzard shitting on that engine for years
our games' movement is responsive, your game plays like it's on 90s dialup
our game is fast and feels good to play, yours overcompensates with anime seizure inducing VFXs and a 2.5s cooldown
your game is constantly held back by consoles
it is honestly embarrassing to the genre that yours is the game blizzard are supposed to be scared of
And thus the dishonest poster fully reveals himself. You never played it and are just regurgitating Ganker shitposts like the other Anon called you out on earlier.
>You never played it
why do you morons think this passes as a defence? even if i didn't pay a single cent to SE anyone can simply download the game and play it up to and including stormblood
"playing the game" is not the big filter you homosexuals think it is
>literally nothing he said is completely true
>"you never played the game!"
cultist moment
nah it's a based take, shadowlands is probably the best expansion of all time. that absolute trainwreck of an expansion finally killed off "the itch" for me
>as miserable as WoW gets, XIV as an actual game is still inferior to WoW in every way
I don't have much of a stake in this fight but I'll admit that it's not even "As miserable as WoW gets" - WoW already got so miserable for me quite a while ago, enough that whatever redeeming qualities it does have, the overall impression pales in comparison to what I can get from some other MMOs, including online FF games.
You can have all that great content, but if you pile shit on it an then even remake that old great content to sacrifice it on the altar of troon mental illness, I'd rather not waste time on your product. It's just not worth it.
>maybe if they're troons addicted to ERPing with other grown ass men (wig, dress and crotch wound optional)
But then they'd play WoW?
I wish F2P was viable to just RP.
I want to goon with gobbo bawds but I ain't paying a sub for that.
How is there not a gayRP private server with porno mods baked in?
There probably is but the type of people that ERP and could make something like that would gatekeep it hard and you'd have to know the right person to get in. Not that it's a bad thing but annoying if you're on the outside.
Sound like a miserable lot
Spill the beans anon. You are being way too specific to pull it out of your ass. I can hear the fricking "Teehee, oh, wherever could we find one?" as you typed this shit. Where's the fricking money, Lebowski.
I would if I had any, honestly I don't know of any like that.
>would gatekeep it hard
>honestly I don't know of any like that
You fricking prostituteson I know your fricking game. I am ONTO YOU.
kek I'm being serious, I just know how cliquey ERPers can be.
>BfA was shit, Shadowlands will save worlo
>Shadowlands was shit, Dragonshite will save worlo
>Dragonshite was shit, the FFXIV triology will save worlo
>...
>FFXIV
Save the world? Probably not, but since it's not being made by the same people who keep on consistently churning out shit since a long time now, you at least have a good reason to doubt that that one will be shit.
If FFXIV would be made by Blizzard, yeah, it'd be probably shit as well. Thankfully it's not and so it does indeed better.
call me when all the blacked npcs are revealed to be dreadlords
>"dread"lords
shadowlands is fun because god made that expansion special. he actually calls himself the jailor, because hes imprisoned our souls in human bodies. if you read the quest text even a little bit, you'd have noticed all the heavy metaphors about spirituality and religion.
damn this place is terrible. terrible, terrible terrible... its just awful.
its hell, were in hell. theres no other way to describe it. this is fricking terrible torture. it cant get worse. literally, he calls it hell.
David Bowie tried to warn us about Google
10" troony wieners
god i wish cute trannies had wieners like that
WE'RE SO FVCKING BACK XISTERS!
THE WOMAN WITHIN IS GOING TO FIX IT ALL. 12M SUBS, NO, 15M, NO, 20M!
THE GENDER NON-CONFORMING MONARCH IS BACK!
What kind of accent will they have?
>THE WOMAN WITHIN
it's different this time though because there won't be a .3
self correcting circle collapsed, because in last few exps troonydevs suck so bad they dont make it up to X.3s anymore
can confirm
>man with an ounce of critical thinking stays on reddit against all odds
A game where homosexuals venture into the wild to enslave feral Black folk to please their bottoms would at the very least be funny, something Blizzard hasn't been in a decade
question: do nuwowgays actually, unironically think their game isn't filled with trannies?
do they remember goldshire?
"futa horsewiener draenei"?
"big green wiener" posting?
If anything, wow might have been a considerable contributor for why there's so many people online today larping as women: because they started out doing it ingame
i don't play on RP servers
And? Doesn't change that WoW is infamous for Goldshire and the meme of having a race that 99.9% of people playing it play as "futas"
It's just more WoW player denial and projection. Goldshire is the nexus of degeneracy in online games, no other game even comes close to the level of weird, gay and troony shit you'll see there.
And they'll never accept it, no matter how obvious it is.
>Not interested if you don't do character positioning
What? Using emotes and shit to make it vaguely look like two low poly models are having sex? kek
>No any ingame male model
That's a gay in denial.
and? again, i don't play on RP servers. i don't interact with any of those people.
And that's always the case with you mazed gays, isn't it?
>I-I don't play on RP servers! I don't see it so it's not there!
>I-I skip the quest text! I don't see it, so it isn't there!
>I-I ignore the lore! I don't see it, so it isn't there!
>I-I don't read the WQ names! I don't see it, so it isn't there!
Just a constant and endless process of ostriching until you evolve into a mole because you spend most of your time with your head firmly stuck underground.
lemao, is that real?
https://www.wowhead.com/quest=71085/representation-matters
Yes.
Fricking hell..
>Khan
God the Centaur shit in DF was all gay.
Gayer than the rest of the expansuon at least.
The Dragon Isles were gay as a whole.
And all of the Woman Within zones will be, too.
>Did we just?
>We did
Why
This has been going on for a while. Somehow it got even worse from SL where the epic story makes you follow literal homosexual furries and a troony who becomes the god of the universe.
Quests in Classic:
>These fricking Kobolds are causing us trouble, adventurer! Go kill them
Quests in Retail:
>Hey, can you go get me some things so I can make a gift for my husband?
This shit is so fricking bad.
I'm not even talking about the gay shit, I'm talking about treating a quest like a trip to the grocery store.
It's supposed to be a quest. A quest! Not a fricking shopping trip.
>These fricking Kobolds are causing us trouble, adventurer! Go kill them
It's funny, actually. In Dragonflight, there was a melty over a questline to wipe out a tribe of Gnolls because they were practicing plague magic and causing trouble and all that.
Some wowgays were crying that wiping them all out was psychopathic and mean.
Sorry sis, we're vegans who believe in zero impact, and want that represented in-game
this game is unsalvageably pozzed.
>game keeps putting out based content
>players whine about how right wing it is
>"the game is pozzed"
huh?
Killing monsters isn't "right wing"
It was just the norm until recently, when everyone became bleeding heart gays.
look the /misc/ tourist is getting triggered by words again!
Well, I guess I have that in common with nu-Blizzard shitslurpers.
Yeah retail is literally nauseating with how saturated it is with this sewage, it's the high fantasy version of pic related
They thought the troony god of afterlife was going to be the end of it.
Lmao.
wow's story died with the lich king
i don't read anything i don't watch cutscenes i don't give a shit about (E)RP servers
it is all just an excuse for the gameplay, and it is still the uncontested king of MMO gameplay
simple as
>wow's story died with the lich king
Then why are people horking about how Metzen is going to save WoW with a good story? If story doesn't matter?
And just ignoring that it exists doesn't make it not exist. That's called denial.
>then why
mentally buck broken addicts and shills, the same as always
>Falling for blind marketing hype
Nothing they've shown so far has been impressive enough to warrant playing this game over something else
Who's that character? I vaguely recall them from somewhere.
The void stole "her" hips.
Or maybe she's revealing herself to be a brave FtM troon.
>side-shave
not even the elves are allowed to be women anymore
have you ever seen someone with that hairstyle IRL?
yes, it looked moronic
>They made the schizophrenic headcase who is constantly being told by THE VOICES to kill her husband, son, and sisters in the feminist symbol
Pottery.
>somehow manages to be soulless hideous and repulsive all at the same time
how do they do it
They modeled her after Gankerirgins.
Yeah, uh. I don't think so.
>it is the customer's fault that we have breastmilk stealing sexpests working at blizzard
huh
>It's everyone elses fault we can't act like functional adults
California, ladies and gentleman.
>im shit at my job but id rather blame everybody else
the post
Sneedolands unironically killed the game
why do so many people watch Asmongold exactly? what is the appeal?
It's a milquetoast centrist libertarian type that says comfortable lies to make normalBlack folk feel better about themselves. He's the archetypical fence sitter and ironically people like him are the reason WoW is a trannified mess of a game.
why are the centaur so fricking gay
why are you reading quest text from literal who npcs from a dogshit race you fricking nerd?
>why aren't you sticking your head in the ground like me? cmon dood mogsmountscheevos STOP PAYING ATTENTION"
sad
>why aren't you yelling at clouds like me? cmon dude GET ANGRY AT THINGS YOU CAN'T CHANGE
hard pass
Wow will never be good.
it's already the best of its kind.
well, it does excel at being a troony containment game yes
but enough about xiv
well, i wasn't talking about whatever lives in your head rent free
i was talking about the premiere troony containment game with troony npcs and troony gods and troony trees and troony developers.
world of ACKcraft
it's an MMO. you're supposed to play with other people, not NPCs. everyone who plays WoW outside of RP servers is a straight white dudebro and that's why WoW will always win over your catgirl erp chatroom "game"
>everyone who plays WoW outside of RP servers is a straight white dudebro
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>no counterargument
i accept your concession
now go textfrick another sunnie+ in limsa lominsa
Oh man, you're completely delusional.
Haha, what a joke.
whatever you say troon
sorry, i don't play the premiere troon containment game world of warcraft
a pronoun slider?
Yep! Been working on it since end of SL/begin of Dragonflight. Also the option to pick a male voice as a female and vice versa.
They already changed male and female to body type 1 and 2, so expect these two "options" next.
And this is just the beginning.
(That sounds like a threat.)
How about fixing the male Night Elf faces to not be so damned ugly and misshapen, you worthless hacks?
Did you mean: Pronoun options?
>nothing on gameplay thoughever, that's over xour heads hihi
jejlad
if you don't like warcraft just LEAVE. dicky people love this gameplay, and you just aren't, get over it
>why are the centaur so fricking gay
Why are there even Centaur on the dragon isles anyway. Aren't they all the result of copulation of a degenerate and a giant ugly big tittied earthen thing?
That's old chud lore by rapey metalheads.
You don't actually mean to say you like that lore, do you? Are you some kind of woman hater?
>played wow on and off for 15 years
>took me until classic and shadowlands to realize I never enjoyed wows endgame in the first place
Welp, better late than never, as they say.
My favorite is the nonbinary trees (they/them pls!)
Is this "her"?
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitlyn-grace/
She/her...yeah...you'll never be a woman.
>joined november 2021
>content designer
>moronic shit being posted
matches up
Of course we can make a hahafunny joke about how the Dragon Isles were Azeroth's gay containment island, but we all know the War Within zones will be chock full of it as well.
Still the only good thing they've added to WoW for the last several years.
in what way?
reeks of femoid tailored sexualization
it was actually a guy who made that apparently
and he gloated about how it made "straight guys" uncomfortable
this guy
Here it is. Funny to see the two stances juxtaposed.
>attractive women make me uncomfortable!
How damaged does a man have to be to think this way?
"sexually abused as a child" damaged
Unless it was by an attractive woman, how does that work?
sexy nearly-nude twunk demon boy who lusts after his master.
you are a homosexual
wow is for you. enjoy
I like the Succubus, too. I really wish Demonology Warlocks could have two minions out like Beast Mastery Hunters can have two pets.
Nah. I don't have mental illness.
imagine playing wow in 2023. you must be on hrt
>races fighting in the game
>a game that promotes racism and war
>y-you need to call me by my correct pronouns
if Wow is so cucked then why do people play it?
nostalgia
they feel there's nothing else out there
moronation
take your pick
hardstuck in their childhood
the only thing that still reminds me of the carefree times when they were kids and not constantly worrying about bills, or relationships, or the world passing them by, or the world changing in ways that make it unidentifiable to them.
Even as the game crumbles.
another great thread sisters the xiv cultists will definitely rope themselves this time
This thread is about World of Warcraft, anon. Hope this helps.
yes i know, that doesn't stop the troons from trying to shittalk the king of MMOs because there's no content in their troon game other than being a porn addict with other grown-ass men
>their troon game other than being a porn addict with other grown-ass men
Ah, I see we're talking about wow again.
Excellent.
dude just pay the server transfer off your RP containment realm already lmao
>if i put my head in the sand it doesnt exist wow is still based and redpilled if i put my head in the sand it doesnt exist wow is still based and redpi-ACK
i was there in vanilla, '05
look how they massacred my boy..
glad i stopped playing in the burning crusade
and yet it still lives rent free in your head to the point you come cry in the threads
also:
>not a new IP
anyone who was there knows how great it was, back then
i care
take your zoomie buzzwords and frick off