They are right. I wanted to play Skyrim Space Edition (Starfield) on PS5 and I won't be able to.
They are right. I wanted to play Skyrim Space Edition (Starfield) on PS5 and I won't be able to.
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They're right. Why do Xbox trannies have so much difficulty with this?
Maybe Sony shouldn't have started it by buying exclusivity deals for franchises like Street Fighter?
Literally couldn't have picked a shittier example, Xbox chud. Capcom's fighting division was getting any money at the time.
So that excuses Sony's obviously opportunistic behavior? Besides which it wasn't just Street Fighter.
A big big difference between a single game and an entire fucking brand, man.
Tell me more about how you know nothing of how Sony used to routinely try to fuck other console producers out of the market. The only reason we even still have Nintendo is because of their library of first party titles carrying it through the bad old days.
Sega got blown the fuck out.
>SEGA
Went down due to bad business decisions. The MEGA-CD and 32X, as well as no mainline Sonic game, played a big part in the Saturn bombing.
The Dreamcast was SEGA at their best, and it would've suceeded had it had the ability to play DVDs.
Name one company that they screwed over.
Just one.
SEGA don't count as, like Nintendo, they could've partnered with Sony with tech.
Reminder that final fantasy 7 was demo'd on the n64, for one.
Square dropped Nintendo at that point due to storage issues on the N64. Not Sony.
>SEGA don't count
>Nintendo forced to release consoles several gens behind doesn't count
>marginalizing Xbox and raising prices doesn't count
I find it amusing you mention N could have """partnered""" with Sony. Well Sony could have partnered with MS and when I mean partnering I mean living off the crumbs they allowed to get of course.
SEGA don't count, and you blaming Sony here shows how little you know about SEGA's history.
Nintendo CHOOSES to release gimmick hardware.
Xbox are in the shit due to Xbox.
>if you want CDs you gotta pay the license fee, by the way that's seven figures + tip
Gee I wonder why Nintendo would make that choice?
>Nintendo CHOOSES to release gimmick hardware.
Are you real? Nintendo learnt if they try to keep up with the arms race Sony introduced with the PS2 they will end up like SEGA. They are a small company compared to even Sony. They can't spend billions on making top of the line hardware.
>Nintendo
I don't really care much about them, never liked mario or gameboys much and think zedlas suck even back as far as the medgadrive echo the dolphin and sonic were far far better games but I personally would like Nintendo to die mainly because it has the most wretched fanbase of any product or trope anywhere ever in human history beating out even apple fanboys in being repulsive cunts. So I hope ninetendo dies. Nintendies constantly try and rewrite retro gaming history they are at the point of claiming Doom existed because of teh fucking N64. Short of them all dying the only cure is to end Nintendo so hopefully it dies soon. Noncetendo. The games company for paedophiles.
Are you trolling? Nintendo is worth BILLIONS.
Most of their worth is in their IPs. They can't afford to produce high end hardware and especially not lose on that hardware. This is why Nintendo is so assblasted about anyone using them for any reason and why they attack Youtube channels for even the smallest copyright issue.
So, Sony are the reason MS botched the XB1's launch? Not, MS, who said "Not happy? Play the 360," "It won't play preowned games," and "It always has to be online."
I see.
Nobody said the XB1 launch was Sony's fault. They are on top yet they still do underhanded deals to straight up block multiplats on Xbox like they own them. And people act like it is fair until MS turns it around and suddenly taking multiplats is not fair anymore. MS can rightfully take Starfield and Sony took FF7-16. It is not the matter of ownership as mainline FF games are forever blocked from Xbox consoles because the market leader said so. In Sony blocking a proven and popular franchise is even worse because all that Starfield has is its name only so far. If it bombs then Xbox "stole" nothing from Playstation while Sony stole the most popular JRPGs the same.
>JRPGs
Ah yesh. Smelly weeb shit last relevant when final fantasy came bundled with the PS1 even though nobody wanted it and wanted grand turismo instead. OK then.
>Maybe Sony shouldn't have started it by buying exclusivity deals for franchises like Street Fighter?
/thread
reminder sony has publicly released the terms of the call of duty deal but microsoft made sure all the important parts were redacted, ie the parts that would fuck sony over, and then they try to act like the good little guy on twitter
i wonder if sony will take the deal they were given once the merger goes through.
Deal won't go through at all or how MS wants it to go through.
sonypiggy cope
sony is currently getting fucking RAPED in court
>i wonder if sony will take the deal they were given once the merger goes through.
The deal is no longer on the table. The moment they sued and started trying to buy up the regulators that offer was rescinded. After the current 3 year contract between Activision and Sony is finished there will never be another CoD on Playstation purely out of spite for the bullshit they started
>purely out of spite
I don't think it is just spite. Sony literally cannot be trusted not to leak private information anymore and working with them is bad for business.
Those are some mighty powerful quints you got there, Jack. Enough to make me believe you and never buy another Sony product ever again.
wishful thinking, but microsoft would like people to keep playing call of duty games. if they take it completely off playstation it's going to lose players to other multiplatform shooters.
Yet almost every other instance in the past regarding "console wars" it has been Sony explicitly being the ones stonewalling cooperation between the two manufacturers and being stingy and/or greedy. How long has Crossplay for multiplat games been a pain in the ass despite the systems already being in place because Sony refuses to just let it happen?
Sounds more like Sony is projecting.
>How long has Crossplay for multiplat games been a pain in the ass
NOBODY gave a fuck about crossplay back then nor do they give a flying fuck about it now.
>I want to play Starfield and CoD
Then buy an Xbox?
Or build a PC.
would rather DIE than buy a shitbox
uhh ok then man that sounds like your problem ngl
I don't recognize a single one of those characters
You recognize Skyrim-man on the right.
>the prey guy?
>no clue
>no clue
>the doom skeleton?
>fallout power armor
>fucking vergil??? who the fuck
>no clue
>a fucking lion man? a kahjiit?
>skyrim dude
sure you don't, snoycel.
everybody with a brain recognizes fallout and skyrim.
microsoft bought a publishing company along side bethesda, called zenimax. While it is still up to microsoft at the end of the day, zenimax is its own company and they've always gone the multiplat route. there's no way they leave that much money on the table for a shitty bethesda game.
>at the end of the day, zenimax is its own company
Absolutely wrong
the only thing microsoft got rid of was their board of directors which were really just mega investors. That went to microsoft game studios but it operates exactly as it has been.
If you think Zenimax doesn't directly answer to MS execs then you're completely delusional
Sure Zenimax would handle the day-to-day but big decisions like target platforms would absolutely be dictated by MS, if that wasn't the case MS wouldn't have bothered buying them.
Microsoft's obvious end goal is to vacuum up as many companies as possible in preparation for the eventual streaming-only game ecosystem that all major game companies are gearing towards.
ok, but I literally wrote that they answer directly to microsoft. if MS doesn't want them on sony, they won't be on sony. but their entire corporate strategy, budget, HR, you fucking name it is not going to be micromanaged. They paid a lot of money to develop games for Sony and Nintendo devices. They have to hire experts at using their devkits and everything that goes along with advertising and working with these other companies. MS has already said they want BGS games to be exclusive to MS but I don't think they will be with free money on the table. especially when starfield doesn't sell shit on xbox.
>at the end of the day, zenimax is its own company
Who's owned by Microsoft dipshit
why do you gays keep misquoting me?
>While it is still up to microsoft at the end of the day, zenimax is its own company...
Because you're literally not saying anything you retard.
>Zenimax is its own company
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
do you not know how companies work? they didn't just fire everyone at zenimax (which is in maryland btw) and fill it with microsoft drones. Yes, the corporate structure has changed and the decisions are being made, in a macro sense, by microsoft. but if they show they can make 200 million dollars by doing what they already have been doing, will MS say no? we will see but I don't think Bethesda is going to be exclusive to microsoft for a lot of reasons. It's going to hurt zenimax and bethesda more in the long run to descale from porting to playstation consoles. Microsoft can say whatever they want but spreadsheets aren't going to lie. if they dont' rake in a return, "exclusivity" is going to turn into "timed-exclusivity" within a few weeks.
seethe harder snoiboi
oh you're retarded.
starfield being exclusive is meant to drive sales of the SeX and SeS you brainlet
just take a step back from your keyboard for a few minutes and think about that. Do you really believe starfield is going to put gamepass over? starfield as a sony exclusive wouldn't put them over either. maybe 10 years ago Bethesda could have pulled that off. maybe that's something they try to do with Elder Scrolls 6, but not starfield. CoD? that's a different story, that might actually be able to sell a few toasters.
>but not starfield
This is a feels argument. Starfield is going to be a banger just read the comments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raWbElTCea8
there's 5000 comments, that's not enough data to say it's going to sell more than 5000 copies. maybe I'm wrong and Todd pulls off another victory out of thin air. I just don't see it. The gameplay trailer betrayed Fallout 4 in space to my eyes. I get keeping games like Hi-Fi Rush out of sony's hands because that's what sony does and it makes sense. but removing a huge profit margin just sounds ludicrous to me. I don't think exclusives help sony that much either which is why I'm currently playing all of their garbage on steam nowadays.
You're so disconnected from the average consumer. Starfield will have a near perfect marketing rollout. Followed by special early access for streamers/reviewers/etc .... aka even more perfect marketing drops. The hype will be absolutely insane, not to mention they'll using msft 365 enterprise apps to push that astroturfing even harder.
People will consume, and all in all it will probably be a good game as Todd wants it and ES6 has his magnum opus, since word is after those he'll retire.
And by good i mean 'good'. Compared to all the other trash coming out. Hell people on this board thing the souls games and elden ring are good when the story for those doesn't exist and there's absolutely no world other than "here's a bunch of monsters, no we have no towns that have their own economies, no stories between characters, basically no world whatsoever other than here's some quest givers, copypasta vendors and monsters"
the average vidya consumer plays candy crush on their iphone and fifa on their stolen ps3 in turkmenistan. they'll have a big rollout but they aren't making huge profits from their xbox consoles and gamepass is a money pit so that leaves PC as their main money maker and ofc it will do well on PC. but snoys are the ones who buy the physical console games. this shit is going to turn into timed-exclusivity by the end of the year and whoops it's now coming to ps5. I think they just want to negotiate with sony and are saying stupid shit to get their consumers to put pressure on playstation to make a deal. that's my read, maybe I'm wrong. I don't think this is the homerun microsoft thinks it is.
>Gamepass is a money pit
Where did you see those numbers to back up your claim
You clearly do not know Nadella, Starfield wont be a Playstation if Gamepass is not a PlayStation
>Yes they're owned by Microsoft and any decisions made go through Microsoft as well as anything Microsoft decides goes, but actually, they're still the same independent company because Josh from accounting is still there
have a nice day you tard
no one said they're independent moron, learn to read. zenimax wasn't micromanaged by their board of directors. you don't have to take my word for it, just look at who was on the board. most of them didn't even live in maryland. it was just investors who made business decisions, not operating decisions. the point I'm making is that it's not going to be worth it to pull any platform off the table. MS knows this and I suspect it has nothing to do with faggy console wars like you xboners are salivating over, it's just a negotiating tactic. and I dont' think it's going to work out for MS at all. I think Starfield is going to flop, I think bethesda is in the dumps at this point after FO76 fiasco and all the good will is gone. maybe I'm wrong and MS can keep it exclusive and it pulls everyone in to buying a gamepass subscription. seems doubtful to me.
Ironic since 76 was phoned in from Zenimax after the group of retards from Obsidian and Interplay tried to sue for the rights to Fallout Online. This caused Zenimax to force a multiplayer Fallout game from Bethesda. Todd even confirmed it in the NoClip documentary that 76 started out as 4s multiplayer.
>shitty
That make billions
Doesn't PS5 have a browser?
>crossplatform obligations
Sony are the only ones fucking retarded enough to think any such "obligation" exists, maybe stop giving away your own IPs to other platforms, sony.
>buh I wanna play the microsoft game on the sony platform!!!
cool and I want to play bloodborne on something that isn't a ten tear old piece of hardware but sony doesn't seem to give much of a shit about that
I don't care if MS pays $7.5 billion for company, and gives me the option of PC, Xbox, Steam, or Gamepass (and PlayStation in the case of CoD but Sony didn't want that).
I care about Sony paying 3rd party companies to lock games to their system forcing me to buy an underpowered plastic box with their logo on it just to play Final Fantasy, Death Stranding, Silent Hill or w/e they paid for this year.
>I care about Sony paying 3rd party companies to lock games to their system forcing me to buy an underpowered plastic box with their logo on it just to play Final Fantasy, Death Stranding, Silent Hill or w/e they paid for this year.
buy it, play it..sell it at a profit or loss of around 50$.
wow, fuck sony
Not even supporting Microsoft merger, but Jesus. If this is how you justify Sony business practices, then all Sony fan boy are a bunch of Cuck. You choose brain rot tribalism over any sense of reasoning.
>Skyrim Space Edition (Starfield)
For the last time Starfield is nothing like Skyrim nor Fallout 4. Its like No Mans Sky
it's more like fallout 4 but it's funnier to call it another skyrim that todd keeps releasing. It's going to be nowhere near as good as NMS and that game sucks.
>b-b-but, you guys
The Bethesdafags level of cope is off the charts. Starfield isn't going to be anything like No Man's Sky simply because Starfield is using the same gimpy and archaic engine that Bethesda has been using for two decades that still has the same bugs in it since the very beginning. For that fact alone, and the fact that Bethesda will undoubtedly reuse assets from Skyrim and Fallout 4 such as textures, models, and animations with slight changes to them so that they are in keeping with the overall theme of Starfield, there is no question that Starfield is going to be yet another boring shitty shallow offering from Bethesda designed exclusively to appeal to the most casual of casual gamers.
You just know she loves rough, degrading sex
>[cross-platform] obligations
What obligations?
That fucking headline is an abomination and journalists need to be killed in the streets
MS lied it's as simple as that. Deathloop on gamepass and now Tokyo Ghostwire. MS said they wont make Bethesda games exclusive but then turned around and made them all exclusive from now on.
>Deathloop on gamepass and now Tokyo Ghostwire.
And? Why is that bad?
Both of those games are still on PlayStation, doofus. They’re even on PlayStation’s subscription service.
>I wanted to play Skyrim Space Edition (Starfield)
iktf, and I still do
>snoy tears when they have to taste thier own medicine
just lol
why buy consoles in the first place?
Consoles are for people who are too stupid for computers.
There are more PC gamers than there are console gamers. It’s not some secret illuminati club. You’re not special because you game on PC.
This, on pc you can try every game before you buy (see piracy)
I want to play bloodborne and FFXVI but sonyfags think hoarding them is fair game
Bloodborne is the real crime, it didn't even get a patch for PS4 pro, let alone a PS5 re-release so you're stuck with 1080p and a shaky 30fps with dips as the only way to play it. Sony has been putting games on PC left and right but not a single word about BB, and Sony closed down Japan Studio so realistically if it did get another release it would be a dogshit bluepoint remake that's not worth playing.
At least with FFXVI you know that it's definitely getting a native PC version down the line.
>At least with FFXVI you know that it's definitely getting a native PC version down the line.
Lol
https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fantasy-16/pc-delay
>“I’ve caused a bit of a stir with my remarks, but I’d like to touch on the PC version,” Yoshida begins. “First of all, it is true that Final Fantasy XVI is a six-month limited-time exclusive on the PS5 platform. However, it is a completely different story that the PC version will be released in half a year. I will make it clear, but the PC version will not come out in half a year.”
You can find the story on a bunch of sites, that was the first one I found. Google the quote if it sates your autism
It's getting a delayed port
If they weren't planning a PC port then they would absolutely say 'no current plans' or along those lines.
Your thread inspired me to make this pic
Nice work
Could also put an Alduin flying in the background with some lights strapped on him
10/10
You didn't fucking make this you lying moron. I see it floating around starfield threads constantly
Then sony needs to release bloodborne and demon souls remake on PC.
And even though final fantasy games suck the new shitty final fantasy also.
What does Bethesda have to do with it? Microsoft offer was a contract, not a promise
>What does Bethesda have to do with it? Microsoft offer was a contract, not a promise
Yes, but SNoy drones rather make it into an east vs. west thing because then they can be super vague about what the fuck they are upset about.
Sony has, as a business model, gatekept IPs and exclusive content away from Xbox for an eternity, I really don't give a shit if Microsoft turns around and does the same to them now while Nintendo and Microsoft stay on friendly terms.
starfield is going to be shit, and sony is worried about that piece of shit not being on ps5?
pfft
Maybe Sony should have taken the contractual obligation for 10 years of CoD when it was on the table then instead of a failed crybaby lawsuit, huh?
Is Sony run by politicians or something? This is pure doublethink garbage, Microsoft was never obligated nor offered Sony anything from Bethesda. Sony had the chance to secure through legal agreement on paper 10 years of CoD. They refused, and now they try and pretend that never happened and this all comes down to promises and words?
So sony slowpoked bethesda's acquisition and now they throwing a hissy fit? Sound about right.
After the court cases with the CMA and EU turned sour for Sony, along with the discovery involving Sony moneyhatting devs, they've become insanely desperate now and are flinging as much bullshit as possible, they're basically now demanding the UK stop it while buying out a TON of press to cry to the public.
/v/
Ganker never changes
Thank you. Snoy need to stop making the exclusive argument. Since Everyone else can only see them as some derange retard, that invest too much into an inferior devices. That inferior device is actively hold back game development, since game dev are forces by corporate leech to meet that market.
don't care, will play it all on pc
>sony tasting their own medicine
Activision can't get bought fast enough
>cross-platform obligations
Strange to hear it from sony
Reminder that these fucking gays were in talks to make starfield exclusive before microsoft bought zenimax
Stop witholding games like FF16 from Xbox and maybe we'll talk, until then fuck off snoys there is no obligation.
if you want to play japanese games, buy something besides an xbox. you've had plenty of time to figure this one out.
>if you want to play japanese games
I don't, could not give a fuck about them evern in the 80s far more ionteresting things were being done on platforms like the spectrum, commodore, Amstrad, acorn, dragon, trs etc
FF has been on Xbox since 13 it's expected now
>nioh series
>rise of the ronin
>ff 7 remake
>ff xvi
>silent hill 2
>death stranding
>street fighter 5
And the chuds act like they're the victims when they go apeshit with these practices
So we've officially escalated from "Call of Duty specifically is too big for a first party company to own" to "Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to have any console exclusives at all. Only we may do that."
Pretty much. Snoy is in textbook 'cry victim as they strike you' mode
It's always one rule for Sony and one for everyone else
just buy xbox 🙂
so sony is allowed to have exclusives and ms not? i hope ms buys as many studios as they can and make every game an ex to xbox and pc
sony doesn't want to give us bloodborne and des? then fuck them. they can take their soj of war back
ESL Xbox trannies seething as usual
There are Xbox only buyers who won't play this with mods.
Wow and I want to play Bloodborne on PC, what can Sony do about that to rectify this problem?
> fail to consolidate finance and IPs and lose franchises to Microsoft.
Sure keep blaming Microsoft lmao.
Is buying companies illegal now? Why is Sony this desperate? Should've bought Activision or at least CoD franchise if they cared that much
Sony aren't as big as Microsoft.
They could, however, easily counter this by completely securing the Japanese market and stopping those games from going anywhere near Microsoft brands.
COD games have a short shelf life. They're only popular for a year. You want games that have substance. Get another Bloodborne-sized exclusive and you're golden.
Sony can't afford them it's poorfag envy
they really wont have any games soon
>Just bought Bethesda
>Now buying Activision/Blizzard
MS can't create anything noteworthy, that's why they do this shit.
People excuse it because they're so balls-deep in "Snoy bad" and are too stupid to see just how shitty this whole thing is.
What Sony's saying is correct. Microsoft is doing something shifty but legal so Sony is doing something shifty but legal too. Claiming they are whining to the court is completely fair game, same as Microsoft trying to start a monopoly.
And you know what'll happen when MS get their way. See the XB1's launch as an example. Their arrogance came into play there and it bit them.
Kinda like how xbox wanted to get bloodborne, ff7 remake, and sh2 remake. Sony and their fans getting upset that Microsoft finally got tired of Sonys shit and decided to beat them at their own game is hilarious.
Japanese games don't sell on Xbox.
Never have.
Japan doesn't give a shit about Xbox.
Never has.
MS has to buy studios because their own shit is subpar, generic garbage.
>Japanese games don't sell on Xbox.
And PS.
>Japan doesn't give a shit about Xbox.
And PS.
Wrong and wrong.
Japanese games sell best on Playstation.
Has Xbox ever contributed anything positive to gaming?
>Forced, overpriced DLC
>Paid online
>Shitty, unreliable hardware
>"You can't play preowned games"
>"The XB1 requires a constant internet connection"
>The You'll Own Nothing and Be Happy Pass
>Tries to monopolize the industry by buying the biggest developers
It's everything wrong with gaming under one umbrella, but retards let it slide because Snoy bad.
This is a conversation stopper. Nobody can argue this.
>Forced, overpriced DLC
DLC existed before Microsoft. It existed on Playstation too. You are only thinking it was MS because the 360 was the more popular console back then. It was never forced, the market decided to support it just like every single thing you are seething about.
>Paid online
Nobody was forced to introduce it. In fact the biggest factor in the comeback of the PS3 was free online. If Sony and Nintendo legitimized it.
>Shitty, unreliable hardware
Outside of the early 360 models the Xbox consoles have the most reliable hardware. Playstation consoles were especially always garbage.
>"You can't play preowned games"
It was ahead of its time. Digital sales are 70% now on every platform and rising. People don't want to own anything anymore. If anyone, Valve popularized it with Steam. You could buy PC games with only the code inside for years before the Xbox One.
>"The XB1 requires a constant internet connection"
Never actually happened, In fact Sony introduced online only for first party single player games with Gran Turismo Sport and 7. You can play Forza Horizon 5 offline today. You can't play GT7.
>The You'll Own Nothing and Be Happy Pass
No different from Netflix. People want more for less and most people only play through a game once or never. The achievement and trophy lists proven it that 70+% of people never finish the game they bought for full price. You are a minority here pretending more than a small minority cares about autistically replaying the same game over and over. There are no Game Pass exclusive games, you can own your software still if you want to.
>Tries to monopolize the industry by buying the biggest developers
No one, not even the clueless regulatory bodies argue with this as outside your schizo rants the video game industry doesn't work that way. It is impossible to monopolize the industry because it is impossible to own all the hardware and software channels. 10y/o argument.
What a retarded fanboy shill you are.
No arguments then 😉
Why the fuck does Microsoft have to allow cross platform anyway, Snoy still does exclusives
Who the fuck doesnt have a PC nowadays?
Nobody gives a shit about PC, man.
Emulation is all it has, and even then, console players played the original games decades ago.
No noteworthy exclusive games either.
They should just make platform exclusives illegal, that would fix everything.
I wanted to play FF7R and SFV on my Xbox and I won't be able to.
Why did you buy an Xbox?
Not him but I knew I'd be pissed down the road if I couldn't play TES6, have no interest in sony movie games I guess that's why they're bribing third parties.
Why did you buy a PS to play Starfield?
>but I didn't know MS will buy Bethesda!!!
Just like Xbox owners didn't know Sony will block multiplats from Xbox. For almost a decade the smug argument was "well if you want to play X then buy a Plasstation". Here is the argument turned around. If you want to play Starfield buy an Xbox.
Well I want to play Bloodborne and God of War Ragnarok. What kind of shitty tonedeaf argument is this?
>Sony play the exclusive strat for more than a decade and it's totally fine
>Xbox plan to play the exclusive strat and suddenly it's unfair
Why
Xisters these fucking SNOY CHUDS keep beating us and it's NOT FAIR
i can't fucking wait for Todd to come out and say
>you guys want TES VI? go buy Xbox console! we worked so hard on this version of the game, it will be the best experience :*~~
I don't care about Microsoft doing what businesses do and screwing over other businesses. I just think it's retarded that Sony are crying like moron babies about it.
All this gay drama over a single shitty CIA funded military slop franchise while Sony lets its old cool IP's and studios rot away and die.
Fuck you Jim Ryan.
Xbox trannies on suicide watch as usual
>a timed exclusive for me but none for thee
>An enitre brand for me but none for thee.
Snoys are retarded but xcucks are the bigger cocksuckers.