>They confirmed that Palworld models are modified Pokémon ones.
OH NO NO NO, PALSISTERS! WHAT ARE WE GONNA D-D-D-D-DO NOW????
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>They confirmed that Palworld models are modified Pokémon ones.
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Lmfao based
Frick poketroons
I didnt know pokemon invented dogs
Nintendo invented animals anon. Any game featuring animals is a Pokemon ripoff
NI HAO
Yeah no, nice try lmao we both know this ain't it, it's a whole different scope
https://twitter.com/covingtown/status/1749462735291859423
It’s funny how people are doing this with the silhouettes to show how close they are but the one guy who ACTUALLY popped the wireframes revealed they have totally different triangle topology.
If so nearly creating an exact copy accidentally is “practically impossible”, doing it on purpose but then also manually repositioning every single vertex to cover your tracks is “the twin towers are still there, they used CIA spy satellites to project a hologram of the plane hitting it”
Considering Palworld devs admitted they were technologically moronic, so they most likely changed the triangle topilogy by mistake due to some convoluted conversion process.
It doesn't work like that.
>Ganker giving their opinion on how tech works.
>Palworld devs admitted they were technologically moronic
That's fine, so is gamefreak.
It wouldn't surprise me if gamefreak is still using windows xp and communicating between staff via fax machines and landlines.
You have no clue about even basic shit about modeling. You don't just "copy wrong." Either it's copied or it isn't.
yup likely technological infetterance involved as well
and then the palworld dev turned around and winked at me
and I smiled back as the sun set
The location of the vertices you fricking morons. Other people have looked as well, and the models are completely different when looked at more than one angle (Azurobe is very close, but its two fricking tubes)
>morons doesnt know retopo is a single button click
>hair is literally identical design to primarina which his no reasonable to exist with that design in palworld when primarina has hair beads between the bulbs and the litter spikes are hard flicks, yet the palworld copied the hair bulbs and incidental hair flicks identically
That shit was clearly stolen from pokemon, retopo is not hard its a fricking second to do.
>Palworld devs admitted they were technologically moronic
Even worse on gamefreak, a group of actual morons on instant noodles budget made a better pokemon game than the multibillion dollar company.
Palworld team is a bunch of nerds in their 20s eager to learn and willing to crunch for their passion.
Pokemon devs (management) are a bunch of old farts that spend most of their career making 2D games, unwilling to learn new technologies and unwilling to let new people take up the reins. They have no more passion and are being moved only by money.
yeah and then they extrapolated the mainframe to invert the polygons, fricking idiot
Try defending this with "muh topology" against a lawsuit from Nintendo.
It's a different 3D model, tard. The design was clearly inspired but the model is unique.
It's not "inspired", it's a straight up tweaked copy subhuman moron.
You're blind, poketroony autismo.
have a nice day subhuman shill.
Your neovegana is healing shut as we speak
have a nice day subhuman shill.
Am I right to guess that you have autism?
That's not how 3D geometry works and the fact that you think it is tells me you're just assblasted.
If Nintendo or TPC or Gamefreak had a case to sue them, they would've done it already by now. The fact that we are day 3 into the game's EA release and nothing has happened means all of those entities have jack to push any sort of legal action against the game and they do have some of the best lawyers in the industry.
This. Nintendo sends lawyers after college kids making romhacks of 20-year old gameboy games that Nintendo doesn't even sell anymore, there's no fricking chance they'd let something like this even make it as far as getting released
Yeah you have to do this with the topology or it's not usable in court. Textures could also be matched. But it seems they used AI to modify shit so they're safe.
I don't know about other programs. But in blender, you can change which way the triangulation goes. Here, I made this bulby type mesh myself. The leftmost one is the one I did by hand. Then, I used the triangulation option to get the other 3 results. Then, I took one of the triangular meshes, and used the tris to quad option to restore the quad topology.
So hypothetically speaking, it's possible for someone to take a mesh, convert it back to quads, then re-triangulate it differently. Of course this process isn't so clean when the mesh is more complex. Going from tris to quads could create quirks in the toplogy that the artist didn't intend. A so thus, if you introduced new quirks, then re-triangulated the mesh, you would get an even more different looking mesh.
since the pokemon mesh is already cleanly topod even if they stitched parts of different pokemon and slight moved some vertices, when retriamguling it would still result in a clean mesh
>It’s funny how people are doing this with the silhouettes to show how close they are but the one guy who ACTUALLY popped the wireframes revealed they have totally different triangle topology.
>Open file
>Edit Mode
>Face Selection
>Alt-J (Tris to Quads)
>Add Modifier: Triangulate
>Toggle Quad Method between Beauty and Fixed to change triangle direction
WOOOOOOOOOW
Witch hunting shit, go back to Twitter homosexual troon. You can claim any model from any game was stolen and say you can't prove it because they did this but you just know because you're schizo.
no you can't because proportionally they dont align while all palworld shit aligns with pokemon models
POKESISTERS...
UM…..BUT THEY USED AI
Ironically, that would really mean Nintendo has no case
Because AI is entirely legal in Japan
FULLY
Its funny how the only paltard defense is this one response tweet from a literal who inwhich he admits he hasn't done any modeling in 12 fricking years, and is clearly wrong about his entire defense. THIS IS YOUR ENTIRE FRICKING DEFENSE. LOLOLOL
Why are tendies so raped in the brain? What causes this?
>Why are tendies so raped in the brain? What causes this?
For some reason they want to believe nintendo is the greatest developer in existence when they're really the apple of consoles, they're still better than Sony don't get me wrong at least they do put out games but Nintendo is a big fish in a small pond that stopped being good at what they do years ago. Maybe they'll improve if israeliteamoto drops dead.
Why don't these people get a job?
I work for nintendo's viral marketing department
...at least I'd like to
because AI is cheaper
Nobody wants to hire a walking PR liability
>can someone else please do my research for me?
>if someone who has more time
WOW SO THEY WANNA MAKE THE ACCUSATIONS BUT NOT PUT THE TIME INTO IT TYPICAL NINTEN YEAR OLD BEHAVIOR LMAO
NI HAO.
stay mad lmao
BING CHILLING. BING CHILLING.
>I would like to play the game without feeling bad about it
Holly shit imagine being this much of a corporate wienersucker
If that is the case where is Nintendo's DMCA takedown? They're usually quick about it.
funniest part of this is how serious poketards take the shit posting
>sniff test
Dafuq?
Pokéfetishist can't hide his addiction to fart huffing
What's your next excuse palbros?
Soulless vs SOVL
Both of those are pokemon.
He is in on the joke, I'm sure.
The funny thing is, I can see this image actually getting a reaction
these dont look similar at all
>he doesn't know
hey dip, those are both from pokemon.
No way!!!!!1! Here's your gold
I literally went "That's too stupid looking to be a pal!". ha hah.
>quadped vs biped
Whoops, you tried
You can't deny that this is a ripoff. Show a judge this and they will probably agree.
the palworld one is so much better and soulful its not even close
tendies lost
theyee both pokemon
got em!
How are there so many morons responding to this while completely missing the joke
palBlack folk are literally black please understand
see
To be fair, I only got the joke because I began looking at gen 9 pokemon a few days ago. I've never seen most of them before and holy fricking shit what happened.
Same
That design doesn't look good enough to be a Pal.
Further proving my point that modern Pokemon is itself the shameless ripoff.
Suicine is twenty three years old you stupid frick.
palsisters... I hope our grifter overlords have good lawyers...
>What's your next excuse palbros?
Don't play pokemon or palworld, but the excuse is as follows
>Pokemon games are shit, someone's gotta make a good one
>someone's gotta make a good one
Still waiting. Indie open world survival crafting games are instantly trash and I have no idea how Ganker went from knowing that truth to slurping up this fricking slop just because it has pokemon ripoffs in it.
Name a good game
right is better
AI generated, please understandu.
Is that thing some sort of a Mega Suicune
>that could've been an alternate Suicune form
Palworld devs do what Nintendon't.
i didnt believe the ai claims before, but this is fricking hilarious funny
They're both pokemon, anon.
That is paradox suicune.
surprised at how many people fell for this
There are two lessons to be learned here. One, the people on this site nowadays are moronic. Two, poketards don't even play their own damn game anymore.
>poketards don't even play their own damn game anymore.
that's the fun part
my pp hard
i rest my case your honor
>this many people missing the joke
sasuga morons
right is better. has soul. has gameplay.
well played
>all the palgays outing themselves as falseflaggers
>all the pokegays seething
Best bait of the year, tbh
You know Nintendo, if they thought they had a case, they would have already sued
Nah its not like Nintendo is infamously litigious or something
Nobody cares if it's a Pokemon rip off if it's better than Pokemon
How is it better?
>they
some crackhead on twitter (previously known as x)
>confirmed
>"these models look similar"
That is not confirming.
>~~*they*~~
>~~*confirmed*~~
>IS THAT... TWO DIFFERENT MODELS? I'M GOING INSANE
>failed game designer thinks he's gonna expose successful game as LE BAD
oof.
>game designer
ah so it's the "6 days in fallujah" controversy all over again when multiple ubisoft employee went on a crusade against the studio for making the game.
i wouldn't be surprised if that dude is still employed by a major publishing company and they do their best to drown the japs in shit to acquire the studio at the cheapest price possible, wouldn't be the first time it happen
This is what Pokegays deserve after discovering Game Freak reused old models after they said they were brand new, and instead of getting mad they made the gayest Twitter hashtag ever.
This. Pokegays deserve this humiliation and worse. Shameless fricking homosexuals one and all.
Pokemon stole from monster rancher 2.... how could they do this.....
Don't care
Still playing Palworld
Ok, prove it in a court of law. Japan is pretty serious about copyright.
Oh wait you can't.
Japan does a lot of business with China so it will never go to court. China has made sure to be integral to the world economy so they can get away with a lot of stuff.
Game was announced back in 2021 too. No way Nintendo would leave it alone that long if there's actually any infringement
>Thermonuclear seething
I love it.
This homosexual doesn't have the balls to hit the wireframe button because it would make his whole argument fall apart
i hate nu-vidya so much its unreal. there really is no bounds to university pipeline homosexualry nor israeli publicly traded tricks. feelsbadman
Ganker will defend this just because the game is fun
Ganker will defend this because literally everyone hates pokegays including themselves
Yep, was a pokegay until Gen 8 released and I could not be more excited for shit like this happening.
The series desperately needed to have been put down long ago. The more stuff like Palworld releases, the better.
Dang... they used Nintendo's cartoon penguin patent without paying royalties!?
Nintendo... assassinate those devs.
A lot of these are a stretch though
Fricking Tangrowth??
>half the designs are better than pokemon's
I think I'll focus on that instead
The ones you checked off all look like shit except for fake hatterne and pancham.
>Ganker will defend this just because the game is fun
correct, i literally dont care as long as the game is fun
Almost all of the Palworld designs look better.
i dont defend it i just dont care
when multi-billion companies put profit and cutting corners over everything for decades dont expect sympathy from real people you pokenpc
also lambball the best
>what is Parody?
Unironically, how does it affect you? Why do you care? Are you a Gamefreak employee?
Some of these are genuinely concerning, some of these look like the person 'complaining' is controlled opposition to discredit those with legitimate issues
You are genuinely concerned about videogame assets?
There are no legitimate issues besides the corporate dicksuckers complaining about this shit.
>/vp/ will defend this just because the game is fun
Great ball so powerful it melts reality as we know it
I don't understand, Bought S/V day one and never had any weird glitches. worst I had was some frame rate drops.
>comparing best girl to shitwik
>mfw
>game is fun
Why care about anything else unless you're a fanboy or stockholder?
>will defend this just because the game is fun
Well yeah, that's the whole point of video games innit? Who gives a frick about the developers?
yes, frick gamefreak
its fricking wild to me how blatant these are, i dont know why people here are trying hard to pretend they arent rip offs, like frick gamefreak and all that but this is so obvious, you dont need to come up with schizo bullshit trying to pretend otherwise.
Because frick nintendo, simple as.
Yes, pokemon has been shit for over a decade, but people pretending pal creatures aren't blatant ripoffs are just lying to themselves
But do you condemn nintendo?
Nintendo can't do anything about gamefreak being shit and raping the franchise. If they could then frick nintendo too.
TPC and Nintendo could buy out game freak's percentage of ownership of the series and then hand it to someone else more competent like monolithsoft
Would gayfreak actually sell though? They haven't made a good non-pokemon game since drill dozer on the gba and a pokemon game since bw2. Without pokemon money they would 100% go under.
But do you condemn nintendo?
If and only if they have a viable way to stop gamefreak and still refuse to take it
Didn't answer my question
Gen alpha-tier reading comprehension
cope
tendies lost
I would say there is a good mix with the intention of creating just the right controversy to get attention. Some are blatant where it is very unlikely they would have arrived at the same design by pure chance. Some are completely different, but with a shared a color pallet seemingly to intentionally draw a comparison. For example, if the teal deer were compared in grayscale, no one would think it was related. There are also some that are just regular animals, but people will still act like Nintendo invented hedgehogs and wolves since there is probably a Pokemon for every notable animal you may want to put in a game.
This board is pro Sony and anti-Nintendo so the anons here will ignore actual malpractice if it means they can make Nintendo look like the less competent company (palworld is still mediocre, so didn't really work lol)
>malpractice
Doesn't matter as long as the game is good
They're still stealing ideas, which is pretty crummy behavior by the devs regardless.
And? Why should anyone care?
>stealing ideas
Not a real thing moron. You could extend such a vague statement to literally any piece of media.
>I can't believe fallout and borderlands stole ideas from Mad Max
>I can't believe Pokemon stole ideas from Dark Souls
>I can't believe star wars stole ideas from Dune
there are 1000 Pokémon of course there will be similarities
Is this the best you can do? Just similar color palletes?
Side by side, some pokemon designs are pretty generic.
Leezpunk is Salandit with Grafaiai and maybe Scraggy
IS THAT A FRICKING BLUE PENGUIN
AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That's literally the appeal of the game though. The fact that it invokes familiarity but presents it in such an absurd fashion.
>Nintendo owns
>Grey birds
>Hedgehogs
>sheep
>Toucans
>Flowers
>Fire
>Rice hats
>dogs
>Monkeys
>Penguins
>The black and red color scheme?
>Short bipeds with purple?
>Cats
Gas all pokeBlack folk
There is no way you make offbrand lucario with out intentionally doing it, you dolt
>Is an anubian jackel
>Called Anubis
>Who lives in the desert biome
>But didn't you know, gamefreak owns egyptian mythology.
Nothing you have just said invalidates the fact its a basically a complete copy. Literally every who has seen that thing literally says it fricking lucario, i do not understand why people are so desperate to pretends it not blatant plagiarism?
Every bird ever is pigey.
>its a complete copy
>Except the hands and legs completely different
>Body too
>The proportions in general really
>And the color scheme
>And the "Clothing"
>But they're both anubian jackals with a an amount of blue and twitter said they're the same so they're the same.
If everyones first thought on seeing that is its lucario, it means all your edits to try to make it look distinctly different failed bud. There is no shame in admiting you fricking copied game freak for god sakes. stop pretending already.
>palBlack folk STILL don't know what the difference is between a design and a concept
Everyone defending palworld is literally a black African gorilla Black person
I'll defend this because copyright is the israelite of laws, and Nintendo is Disney of vidya
My only complaint is that they are going for the overly round and smooth nu-mon look.
OH MY FRICKING GOD HE'S IN
It's morally imperative to steal from tendo.
Tendiesissies... or response?
Uh, you don't get to bring friends
Palworld devs really are shameless aren't they?
May you get caught
May you get caught
I really want to enslave pikachu
If only Pokefriends would put so much effort into these comparisons by sending Gamefreak actual feedback.
We would've had a much better Pokemon game a decade ago.
Keep digging, Pokechads! one day, you'll find that 1 earth-shattering, irrefutable piece of evidence, and every single one of the 5 million (almost 6 million) people that got this game will demand a refund, and Palworld / Pocket Pair will go bankrupt! The Pokemon Company will hold a press conference where they will all bow in respect of you.
I admit it's kind of funny watching all these devs cry about how badly they lost to this indie studio
where do I sign up to be a paid twitter shill or any shill really?
Submit a job application to the pal devs and you'll probably be accepted for how stupid you are
It is likely not even the game developer or any affiliate doing it. This is the same group behind the endless threads over every new gay thing that pops up on the market. Things like Bridgette localization, BG3, every blizzard game, and whatever the others were I forgot. They don't care about you buying or not buying, playing or not playing. The point is to demoralize you. They want to exhaust any disgust you have for these things. So when you have to rent your property you no longer even care. You aren't able to care. Complaining about it makes normalgays angrier at you than at the offender because they are demoralized.
Don't all new pokemon look the same anyway?
Discuss.
It's funny how different these two are and show how incredibly lazy pokemon is when they just make it overly high poly then duplicate it for the other half. Far too much work to make a whole model when you could just make half then mush it around.
The famous patented "2 stray locks"-design... how could they steal that!???
Yeah the patented random spikes in the same exact position.
Ive spent far too many hours with Primarinas model in blender and her hair is clearly different in most spots on Azurobes body, You can see Azurobes hair is less curved where Primarinas pearls are and the sprigs are different shape. Its obviously referenced very heavily but they would have needed to make it from scratch to end up with such differences.
>Ive spent far too many hours with Primarinas model in blender
Doing what?
You already know the answer
Pokemon invented anal beads!
The brand slavery of pokegays is shocking, they eat the shit served by gamefreak for decades, but go mad destroy the competition. This is stockholm syndrome...
game is still fun
game is still in my library
will still play the game
pokégays can only cope
NINTENDO
HIRE THESE DEVS
Its funny how the first post in that Tweet has completely different proportions and topology, Poketards are truly incredible.
tendies... nintendo did not invent animals nor fictional creature catching
Nintendo INVENTED the very CONCEPT of queen bees and traditional japanese weather deities.....
does anybody have that pic of thundo amethyst and dazzi taking a family photo
I member when Thunderus was a cute mesugaki
It doesn't even fricking matter, I don't know what the frick possesses people to be so fricking butthurt about this. It's blatantly obvious that in the absolute best case scenario Palworld takes heavy inspiration from pokemon designs, and at the absolute worst made outright knockoff designs, either way it literally has zero impact on the actual fricking game. Literally none of these people are pokemon designers, none of them work for Gamefreak or Nintendo, so what POSSIBLE fricking motivation could they have when there is ZERO impact to their fricking existence. God the fricking internet sucks nowadays.
Americans.
Americans love to virtue-signal.
It's ingrained in their protestant culture.
>It's ingrained in their protestant culture.
I get what you're trying to say, but I think the most common religious group in the US is actually catholics.
It's sad to remember that I'm on a board with people who would fail an elementary school history test.
I know American culture is traditionally tied to protestant christianity. That's why I said "I get what you're saying", I was just pointing out that catholics are the biggest group here nowadays.
Maybe they were simply hoping to play a game where you discover new monsters and collect them, you know a monster collector...
Kinda ruins the fun when you've seen literally all the monsters before but slightly different.
why are women like this
>women
oh so thats why he never showed his full face
Anons of it were like 10 in the whole game that were kinda close, you might have a point. This shit is copied homework. Also Twitter screenshot.
The most embarrassing thiing about you palworld morons is of this persons list, yes a few like in this picture were SMALL Stretches but 90% of it was actual and legit but you spam post these two because they're stretches to be dishonest. Kys
the frick you gon do about it, poke boi?
The Simpsons did it first!
>Comparing completely different 3D models and claiming they were stolen
There's different shit on them (mouths/feet/fur/noses/eyes) that's enough to end the comparison
They should add Pikachu with a straight tail and some fur
Looks better, runs better, plays better, is cheaper, is on PC, has better designs, even the ones that are a copy, doesn't have dogshit inanimate object/things designs. Why the frick should I care about it copying anything? I'm not a tendie shareholder or cultist.
Is moddable so you'll be able to add a fully stacked Salazzle + preggo mod to it
Most importantly, the game is actually fun. Id like to see all the tears if it manages to leave early access one day
>Looks better
wrong
>runs better
irrelevant
>plays better
wrong
>is cheaper
that's a negative
>is on PC
that's a negative
>has better designs
wrong
>Why the frick should I care about it copying anything?
because its unethical
Kys poketroony pokeshit copied tons of things including dq
I genuinely hope Pokemon fans aren't actually going to pretend they've always cared about smaller monster games just because this one became mildly successful
Yes, yes, well done Pokemon fans, well done. HOWEVER
ahem, excuse me
if pokemon got away with stealing the Aerator Oscillator font Palworld can do it too
>people complain for literal years about how draconian and unfair Nintendo and Gamefreak are about copyright, C&Ds, etc
>"NOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY PALWORLD ITS HECKING STEALING FROM POKEMON REEEEEE"
Make it make sense.
its funny because you bet nintendo would have sued them out the ass by now to steal all their money if the "muhu stolen" claims had any merit
Easy. In lieu of having belief in a higher power, a caring father figure, love for one's nation, or pride in one's heritage, you replace it with corporate worship, and tying your ego to the company's reputation and financial well being.
Those last two are moronic.
Is it fair that a shitty soulless chink assetflip is allowed to operate while soulful fangames are being shut down?
>soulful japanese assetflip
ftfy
is palworld the reason why your soulful fangames are shut down?
I've hated the Palworld shilling lately but seeing the absolute meltdown from pokegays has been pretty entertaining.
Pretty much proves they're bigger corporate dickriders than sonicgays too
>they confirmed
who's they? what is confirmed?
>censored usernames because of leddit rules
>palworld criticism thread
like pottery
Why can't they just make a better and cheaper game to compete holy shit.
Because it costs money when you're not just ripping models from other games
Game freak has literally been reusing 10 year old models and animation, so no excuse.
Every time they do it ends up a wokeshit political statement filled with furries instead of Pokemon
Wouldn't you have to steal from Nintendo to test?
i don't really care about all of that stuff
I'm still gonna buy it specifically after viewing this thread
This is your proof?
GUYS THE MODELS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME
LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME MONSTER
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND NOBODY HAS EVER MADE TWO SIMILAR DOG-LIKE CREATURES BEFORE, IT'S THE SAME FRICKING MODEL
>import model ripped from Pokemon
>move some vertices 0.5%
>retopo with a single button click
>N-NEW MODEL!?
YOU DONT GET IT THEY BOTH HAVE LEGS!!! IT IS THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TO HAVE LEGS ON YOUR DOG MODEL AIEEE
Why is it always westerners complaining about insignificant things and trying to tell other countries what to do? I've never seen this embarrassing behavior come from Japan. Who gives a shit about the developers or what their process was? The only thing that matters is the end product. If it's a good game then it's a net positive for me. If it's a bad game then that's a net negative for me. I want more good games in the world and I don't care if you commit war crimes to get them.
Because you only speak English. There's also a contingent of extremely butthurt Japanese poeple on 5ch and Twitter.
>Why is it always westerners complaining about insignificant things and trying to tell other countries what to do?
Just out of curiosity, which languages do you speak?
Copying is not theft.
lmao at pokekeks, they get treated like shit by the pokemon company with their minimum effort garbage games and they STILL defend it, LOL
None of these troons would ever pass a sniff test
Troons make an entire room reak of shit due to their necrosis axe wound
Except all of the vertices in Pals are different compared to Pokemon. Do you know how much work it is to copy a model, tweak the vertexes of all the polygons, but then try to keep the same general shape as the model you copied it from? There would be no fricking point. It's pretty obvious they looked at the shape they wanted to make, made the model from scratch while hand eying it. It's why the models don't quite line up when you try to overlap them. Even when you remove the basic fluff from either design and just have the shape of whatever, it doesn't work. If Nintendo tried to sue, they might actually get laughed at, since what actual grounds are they going to sue on?
>They copied the models
The burden of proof is on the accuser, not on the accused. They would have to show that they were copied, such as left over data from models being extracted from game files and then altered. Likely easily debunked by presenting evidence of previous work on models and showing design documents
>They can be confused with Pokemon, ruining our brand
This would be a problem of trademark, rather than copyright, but given Gamefreaks stance on being anti-gun and the rather blatent up front designs of most of the Pals showing them using guns or actual weapons in all art featured, that would be far from the case.
They might as well come out and say
>We don't want a successful Pokemon copy to be on the market, even though we know we can't own the monster raising genre
Face it, Palworld isn't going away and things will only get worse for Nintendo if they try to "fight back" instead of ignore it.
>. Do you know how much work it is to copy a model, tweak the vertexes of all the polygons, but then try to keep the same general shape as the model you copied it from? There would be no fricking point.
Lol its just 100x easier to copy an already existing design then sit there coming up with your own, especially when you have a small dev team.
>>They copied the models
Mate, you are fricking blind, they absolutely did, making some minor edits doesnt change that.
Same shape means nothing in terms of computer data. It doesn't matter if I made the same shape as someone else, you have to prove that I stole it. You have to have some way of tracking your model data and putting it back on your games. We know that Pokemon does this, there are various markers in all of the models that even tell you which game in the series they came from. It would be insanely easy for Nintendo to prove that the model was copied, especially as you have pointed out, they were on crunch for pretty much the entire dev time for this game and likely would not have scrubbed all that data to try to hide this fact. It would take just one of the hundreds of thumb drives with all of the previous models to probably find the original Pokemon models on file before they were altered as well. If Nintendo felt they had a case, they would want to get a lawsuit out as soon as possible to make sure that this valuable data was not destroyed before they could issue a search in discovery.
Nothing you just typed is relevant, they got fricking off brand lucario, there is no way you end up with that design without directly copying it. Its not like any animal, its blatantly intentional. i also dont give a frick about nintendo or what they think.
Even if the models are stolen, why do any of you care? What does it matter to you?
Grasping at whatever straws exist to try to make it look bad and convince other people to turn against it.
Success breeds jealousy.
Poketards on twitter literally going "I must protect the honor of the billion dollar corporation"
that mod looks like shit, the palworld models are soo much better
Why would I want the soulless pokemon designs? Pals are better.
Beta mindset
>Palword is plagiarism!
>NOOO IT'S NOT, NINTENDO DIDN'T INVENT X, LOOK AT THE VERTICES THEY'RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT
Sigma mindset
>Palworld is plagiarism!
>Yes, and I don't care
>Sigma mindset
>Palworld is plagiarism!
>Yes, and I don't care
why is it so hard for Ganker to accept this?
>Sigma mindset
>you don't even know what plagarism is and even it Palworld was that, I wouldn't care
Alpha mindset
>Palworld and pokemon are both shit
Gamefreak should just shut down
pokemon invented dogs
pokemon invented cats
pokemon invented aliens
pokemon invented mythical creatures
pokemon invented weird looking creatures
pokemon invented sheep
pokemon invented rats
pokemon invented humans
pokemon invented balls
pokemon invented 3d models
pokemon invented stealing bikes
but did pokemon invent ligma balls?
check and mate
how come nobody talks about the blatant rip off of elden ring design and assests?
That's the same developer using it's own assets, moron. Almost all game developers do this
fromsoft made palworld????
They look better
Gamefeak better step up their game
palworld is solidly on the nu-pokemon side of the spectrum. Even the ones they stole are almost all from the last few generations.
The palworld shills are crazy. Is it falseflagging sony gays? I can't think of anyone else that desperate
So does anyone remember Terraria? Which literally started out using stolen FF5 sprites? Then later implemented their own? Wonder if this will be the same case...
>Duke Nukem and Marathon ripped off Wolfenstein/Doom
>Nobody cared back then
>Fatal Fury and Mortal Kombat ripped off SF 2
>Nobody cared back then
>Now
>All indie """"""devs"""""" that never make it shidd and piss and cumm at a game for ripping off another game
what happened?
Trannies happened
More specifically, a disgusting and baffling paradoxical breed of cryptocapitalist commies.
>what happened?
They reused another game's models. That's it. That's the entire issue. If they were just the normal kind of soulless ripoffs the criticism would be limited to "the devs are unoriginal". Outright stealing shit is different. Especially since they've made so much money doing it which is going to incentivize others to do the same.
>They reused another game's models.
Why doesnt Nintendo sue them then? Are you telling me that literal whos on twatters and Azerbijan horse saddle forum know more than a multi-million dollars company with armies of lawyers and programmers at their disposal?
They legitimately might. I don't think anyone expected them to be this brazen. Until the game released and people got a better look at the pals and started looking at the meshes everyone just assumed they were the normal kind of ripoffs and nothing more. There have been loads of pokeclones and while this one definitely leaned more into being a pokemon ripoff, no other pokeclone has outright stolen pokemon assets. So why would anyone initially assume that this one had?
And you can't compare them shutting down fan games to shutting down something that is ostensibly an original IP. Fan games outright use the pokemon name. Nintendo/game freak don't have to prove anything to have grounds to go after them. But with something like palworld, they would have to prove some kind of infringement. So them not being as quick on the draw in this case isn't necessarily evidence that they don't have their lawyers working on it.
Maybe they don't sue them. Maybe they see palworld as advertising for pokemon or shutting it down as bad publicity. Maybe they think pocketpair will be able to weasel their way out by ditching the plagiarized models and don't see pursing it as worth it. All I know is that I wouldn't want to be the guy having to explain to a judge why the primarina and goodra models are in palworld if nintendo did decide to sue.
Ain't no way those morons really had to actually use Pokemon models AND AI just to create these monsters. Just use your head for a few minutes and come up with your own designs, it is not that hard.
>what are we gonna do
Well presumably
>continue to read Twitter
>continue to engage in Twitter drama
>bring Twitter drama here for further engagement
>use ironic election Era memes
>use the same meme template for thread headers
>consoom fotm slop
>complain about fotm slop
>horny post about fotm slop
Did I miss anything
Does anybody who plays video games actually care about this stuff?
Nope. Only rapid fanboys and morons.
rabid*
The meaning is they are foaming at the mouth as if they have rabies.
How the frick did I manage to typo that? I double checked my post like two times.
What the flip? Is it over Pals??
I mean this would all be a non-issue if GF made good games.
Have the devs even said that they use gen AI for this game? It's entirely possible they do, but how did this narrative start? I can't find anything showing proof that AI is being used in development
They didn't. As for the claim, obviously some moron here spouted it and a bunch of guillible dumbfricks believed it
>but how did this narrative start?
One of the devs has some twitter posts sucking off ai garbage. In fact, it's specifically in the context of ai fakemon. And one of pocketpair's previous games is about ai "art". Palworld almost certainly doesn't have any ai assets in the game itself and they probably weren't even used for creating concepts. But the devs do like ai shit so the suspicion didn't come from nowhere.
palbros, this is inexcusable...
>palgays still dont know the difference between concept and design
>Nintendo will send legal teams to non-profit fanmade projects that have mere whiffs of their assets
>Somehow doesn't even lift a finger about Palworld
Explain that one to me if you insist that Palworld has pokemon assets
Because they didn't know about it until yesterday
anon this game was announced like three fricking years ago
So? Nobody gives a frick about indie games getting announced lmao and since when do indie games get announced anyway?
you can do better chicken tendie, I believe in you
Nobody has ever given a frick about an indie game being announced. Sorry but it's just never happened.
argumentum ad populum
You don't know what that means. The argument isn't that it's proper because other people do it, fricktard. The reason nobody gives a frick is because they're almost all trash.
Shut the frick up Tendie
HI HAO, Chang.
They didn’t know about Palworld until it’s sold over 5 million copies? Are you moronic?
Considering it sold that many in a couple of days, yeah.
4m gamepass players 1m sold*
>Twitter detectives work faster than an entire department of veteran game devs
right. kek.
Yes? Don't you know twitter is where literally everyone gets their news from now? Journalists write articles about tweets.
>Don't you know twitter is where literally everyone gets their news from now?
Just say you get slops poured into your brain daily, we get it.
You do too, fricktard. Except you get it via a dozen different interpretations and filtered through a dozen different agendas. Dumbfrick.
I accept your concession
cope. Enjoy you're second/third hand retelling of the 'news' lmao dumbfrick boomer
I accept another concession, don't have to keep giving it to me
And I accept yours 🙂
You know pocketpairs address is on their site? They can literally take the Nozomi bullet train and get to Tokyo from Kyoto in 2 hours to investigate if they wanted.
am I supposed to know or cares what the frick you're talking about weeb homosexual?
The absolute state of pokehomosexuals
Can't even go click "about us" on a company's website, and is too busy defaming a company they don't know jack shit about
Yep and will keep doing so because the shit you dribbled means nothing to me.
Nintendo can walk over to their office if they fricking want, stop being moronic
That means literally nothing.
It kind of does? Japanese laws and everything?
Laws exist in other places, fricktard. They don't have to be on Japanese soil to be sued.
Except that they are on Japanese soil, and Nintendo is ALSO on Japanese soil, meaning they have to be sued on Japanese soil.
>two japanese companies
>they don't have to be sued in japanese soil!
Imagine being this much of a moron
I mean, technically Nintendo could pull some asinine bullshit like have Nintendo of America sue them and try to force a trial under US law, but that would look suspicious as frick.
They'd still have to sue them under Japanese law regardless. It's why China can ripoff anything they want blatantly and nobody can do anything.
That is not how international courts work. There is a reason US criminals abscond to Venezuela, Cuba or Russia; US doesn't have extradition with them. No one is gonna sue trademark violation with a country with a completely separate trademark system.
Indeed, which is why I say it would look suspicious as frick. It'd technically be possible to file, but in practice it would immediately be thrown out.
Japan doesn't have fair use you dingus. The laws are fricking different and enforced differently that whatever 3rd-world hellhole you're used to.
and you have the gall to speak on behalf of a japanese company? Frick off moron
>Gamefreak will strike down a free romhack from literal amatuers
>Won't strike an obviously commercial indie game that is 3 years in the making
Tendies are absolutely delusional.
Pocket Pair's HQ is like a 10 minute drive from Gamefreak's. If there was a problem by now, Masuda himself could have driven over and kamikaze'd the entire building.
Not to mention trailers for this shit got shown off at the fricking game awards. Nintendo literally attended that event.
This is just the genshin impact meltdown all over again.
>1
Going after easy targets, individuals don't have the ability to easily go to court.
>2
Fellow Japanese developer so you know that due to their bushido culture they made damn sure they weren't going to have any legal issues with Nintendo and Pokemon.
Based bait
I don't believe that pokemon assets exist in palworld, dumbass.
you need to build a strong case before taking someone to court In Japan due to their heavy conviction rate, and it's typically better to wait for "le small indie devs" to turn a profit if you want to sue them for damaging your brand. Palworld is fricked, don't worry, we're not dealing with some small-time C&D letter, we're looking at a real lawsuit and copyright infringement.
>Palworld is fricked, don't worry, we're not dealing with some small-time C&D letter, we're looking at a real lawsuit and copyright infringement.
get ready to huff some copium then, because if Nintendo waits even when this shit sells millions without sending cease and desist or get court order then they will never do anything. lmao
>haven't touched 3d modeling tools since before blender existed
>look at people importing distinctly different models into blender and then call them the same thing
like, i know kids these days are more poorly educated, but you shouldn't even need intelligence to be able to see this shit isn't the same
if you're going to make moronic claims like this they need to be near identical, and it's nothing close, it would take more effort to edit a model to be foundationally as its basest level different than it would to just make a new one with modern tools
wow u so smart anon
Fair Use Parody Law
>chinese early access game
>just as buggy and crashes often
>shitty streamer bait rust clone
>stolen rigs/models/skeletons
>designs are AI generated
>sells less than SV did at launch despite being the best-selling PC game of the month
>"s-s-still better than GameFreak"
lmao some "pokemon killer"
BING CHILLING
bug sperging
>rip model
>move vertices slightly
>click tris to quads and vice versa
>wtf different?!
>SV
I don't think whatever shit game you're trying to shill is popular enough to get an acronym, gay.
You really couldn't figure it out with context alone? Are you 12 or just moronic?
>context
The context is nobody knows what the frick you're talking about and no context can help because we've literally never heard of the thing you're shilling, moron.
This is bait right? No one can be this moronic.
Where do these morons even come from?
>wah why doesn't anyone care about this shit game I'm trying to shill without seeming like a shill!
Just frick off already. Nobody cares about your nameless trash game
Fricking this. Frick all these Palworld shills.
How much are you pajeets getting paid?
Realistically speaking, if they really used Pokemon models for this, then Palworld is done for. Nintendo would unironically force them to close the game.
They cancelled fricking 2D pokemon fangames. Now this is selling millions of copies. Nintendo at the very least gotta be seething.
BIIING CHILLING
They're different models, are all Pokemon homosexuals moronic?
Nintendo invented 4 legged animals!
Nintendo invented Lions!
NIntendo invented 3D games!
BING CHILLING
>palBlack folk dont know what the difference between a design and a concept is
Nintendo invented pokemon- the thing that was stolen.
It's over.
Why the frick would you remake Ocarina of Time in Wind Waker? What a pointless waste of time. Are modders braindead?
>They
Frick off troony scum homosexual Black person
People arguing in this thread are so moronic. Most people don't care if the polygons line up exactly or if they only used Pokemon as references or if they used AI. Because it's so fricking obvious that nearly every design is based on one or two Pokemon specifically it is painful. You're allowed to like the game, if you think it's fun, and have fun, that is great because most games fricking suck now.
But to lie and say all of these designs are not copied homework is laughable. How come SMT never ran into this? Because they came up with their own fricking ideas for the most part. They literally have a Raiju in smt and it's a completely different fricking thing that Raichu in Pokemon, in case you're trying to to argue they are based off mythology, and that's why they are the same.
>reasonable preface
>second paragraph immediately starts sucking wiener
Atlus could print out a black and white picture of Jack Frost and tape it to a blank wall, and it would still be a better game than any other monster collection rpg franchise that exists currently. Get fricked moron. Smt was dog shit and still more fun than the newest Pokemon, PS2 monster rancher or this garbo.
Frick off atlus shill, smt is trash
bump
No one is (unironically) saying the pals aren't copies of pokemon designs.
We're saying paldevs didn't steal assets. And they didn't. Copying a design or idea is an entirely different thing from stealing and editing a model. The first one is legal. The second one rips someone's butthole asunder for generations.
moron literally every Black person defending palword is saying they are completely original designs with no similarities to any pokemon design
I'm still having fun with the game, couldn't care less about the production side of things.
What is holding Palword devs to modified the models once they get sued? Knowing them and their humour I see it happening "Uh, stealing? I dont know what are you talking about, Pal!"
It is modified enough
>What is holding Palword devs to modified the models once they get sued?
Lack of talent. They made an open world survival crafting game in the current year, it's obvious they not only have zero creativity, but are like a decade behind in gaming trends.
I mean, you have to admit, even if they're hacks the game they arrived at is such a no-brainer thing (Ark with Pokemon) that it's a surprise nobody attempted it before.
>zero creativity
Looking at the bokobolins and moblins in their other game this isn't even an exaggeration. Coming up with a generic goblin/orc monster is not hard. But somehow even that was beyond them. Is this what it looks like when an entire game studio can't see the apple?
>Coming up with a generic goblin/orc monster is not hard.
Yeah when I was a kid, I drew a whole regional pokedex and every single pokemon I invented looked better than this trash. They should've got a 7 year old to do the designs
Cope seethe and cry about it
>morons thinking palworld is chinese
man this board just gets dumber by the minute
BING CHILLLING
>purchase building in tokyo and staff it with 20 janitors
WE ARE JAPANESE NOW
you are genuinely moronic
have fun with that
BIIING CHILLING. BING CHILLING.
but I'm not a bugman chinknoid
PFFFT NINTENDIES BACKING OUT NOW
WOW LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHINKMEN MAN I HATE THEM
oh wait, it's entirely japanese
And just in case I get
>b-but that's FAKE and GAY
https://www.pocketpair.jp/palworld/palworld-credit
these names are clearly AI generated and/or copied from the Pokemon devs
NI HAO
You genuinely have brain damage. I feel sorry for you.
NI HAO. BING CHILLING.
This isn't the smoking gun you think it is, you dumb Black person.
Lakshya Digital is a company spearheaded by jeets and according to them they work on modeling assets.
https://lakshyadigital.com/about/
And according to both their website and pic related (found by typing in "starfield lakshya digital" in a search engine), they were one of many companies hired to work on Starfield.
Their parent company, Keywords Studios, is also an industry giant in not just the gaming industry.
https://www.keywordsstudios.com/en/
None of this smells organic.
Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, all that additional shit at the end is credits for the UE asset store junk they used?
>they were one of many companies hired to work on Starfield
They also did stuff with Microsoft, Square Enix, From Software, Bandai Namco and many more.
What's your point?
>mameo
oh shit it's the rowdy MC from digimon world. how could he betray us?
Guys I think he finally broke, good job
If this game was made exactly the same but by troons, chans, jeets or nogs you people would be shitting on it relentlessly.
Sure, hating disgusting people is healthy.
Yes, and you were born yesterday so you wouldn't have known better.
2007 Ganker would call out this ripoff, Nu Ganker is instead celebrating it because nu Ganker like streamer bait survival crafting trash.
>hk has a rich great background, water drops in foreground and background that match the noise, high effort lightning that reflects on the background in a fitting manner, few meme drawing signs with actual meaning and a style consistent across the specific part of the civilization
>the clone has a bland background that just drowns into a featureless glow, little attention to detail, low effort lightning, and a ton of meaningless lazy signs
You cant compete with true sovl
This game made me realize western devs fricking suck at monster designs. Every single indie pokemon that has released always comes out to subpar attention and nobody bats an eye.
Do you think the people that post this on Twitter are the same ones spamming nonsense in this thread?
Holy brain damage, the best thing the Muskrat could do for humanity is closing Twitter.
Remember what happened when policy changes at tumblr broke containment?
Why are pokegays seething so hard at this game? Because it's more popular than Pokemon?
What kind of homosexual happily shouts out "LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE!!!"
There's a combo of shitposters hungry for attention, people who want all the threads about an ark clone to go away, and literal children all shitting themselves at once. If you stop responding to them or stop participating in threads that begin with shitting on the game, they go away.
>who cares if they ripped off assets
>as long as it's FUN
Even some chinks, the master of plagiarism, got mad when Genshin first came out.
What happened to this site?
why am I obligated to give a frick about anything besides the end product when I'm buying a video game? I don't play video games to make social statements and signal my virtue.
>I don't play video games to make social statements and signal my virtue.
neither do i. but if stealing assets is okay, then it becomes a race to the bottom.
also i realize i'm replying to baits here.
So is the game good or not? If you steal assets and it ends up making a shit product, I won't play it.
Pretty much every developer either buys assets or outsourced assets at the AAA level.
>The assets are stolen
>Ok which ones are stolen
>Well this lion looks like of like this other lion on the Z axis just ignore the texture, uvs, legs, tail, mane, the fact that its shorter on the other two axis, has completely different topology. But they look kind of similar in this twitter webm so its stolen
did you know that you don't need to compare models to determine plagiarism? a simple look at the character sheets and concept art should be enough to tell.
You could extend such a loose shitty definition of plagiarism to literally anything.
>Gamefreak plagiarized Sif who plagiarized repede who plagiarized koromaru because no one is ever allowed to put a blade in a canine's mouth ever again.
Did you know there's an important legal difference between copying a design or idea versus ripping a model and editing it?
No one is genuinely saying Palworld didn't copy pokemon at all. Some shitposters are saying it for fun, but everyone knows Palworld purposefully tried getting as close as can be to pokemon designs. That was the entire point of it.
But saying they stole an asset directly from Gamefreak is provably wrong.
>take chord progression
>change it a bit
>make new song
vs
>take asset
>change it a bit
>make new game
What's the difference??
There's lawsuits in the music industry like every week.
how many actually go through
You guys should file lawsuits on behalf of the Pokemon Company. Just to help get the ball rolling. Down the line they can consolidate all charges and really give the Palworld devs what they deserve.
Why do americans hate corporations and then suck them off endlessly and defend them until they're blue in the face?
Americans haven't hated corporations for more than ten years.
>Capitalism and corporations are ruining the world!
>but not the ones I like!
I will never respect an american.
He knows you can freely scale a mesh, right?
Westerners are really pushing this Palworld vs Pokémon issue. They'd rather see japanese vs japanese companies instead of eastern vs western companies.
Sad assfricks.
Dont care
Frick nintendo
Frick gayfreak
Frick anyone dumb enough to buy a switch
and seriously, FRICK lawyers, imagine being such a boot licking moron youd defend a parasite worse than a maggot in dogshit
Lawyers aren't a problem, they provide a service of interpreting needlessly complex and lengthy laws created by the government in order to make you need a lawyer to succeed in the legal system so that poor people get priced out of justice. It's all the government's fault.
>experts say it's near impossible
Provide concrete evidence they ripped the models or frick off
NINTENDOOOOOOOO
pokemon came out first so as far as facts are concerned digimon is the knock-off
>completely unique designs on both
are paltroons moronic
>posting the same webms that got bfto earlier but in twitter form
have a nice day absolute moron
This whole "discussion" feels extremely pointless because almost no one making accusations seems interested in taking anything but the most extreme, and frankly *plainly wrong*, position.
You have people saying that they "directly lifted models", and then point to comparisons which actually show that the models are, in fact, different. Often quite similar, absolutely, but different in a way which makes them *not* a copy, and quite obviously so to anyone familiar with the matter.
Then you have people claiming that sounds are "the same", but the evidence they provide shows that they are *not* the same. Again, certainly very clearly inspired in some instances, but also not identical.
That is not to say that there couldn't be an interesting conversation to be had about the ethics of what they are doing, or that recreating almost the same style is perfectly fine. But, in order to have this discussion, you first have to establish what actually is going on and to do so you have to be truthful about it. Copying something directly is very different, both legally and ethically, from being heavily inspired by it. Arguing that the former is happening, without evidence to support it, in order to try and give your position more weight actually does the opposite.
These people are blindly loyal Nintendo fanboys, anon.
They're not interested in rational evaluation of anything. They're whipped into an idiotic frenzy.
>models are, in fact, different.
Looking at that luxray, the difference is basically non existant. Its very clear the devs just copied them.
The one thing that's clear here is that you have no idea what you're even looking as you haven't used a 3D modelling program in your entire fricking joke of a life.
I dont need to have used 3d modelling to know what fricking luxray looks like. This is a fricking appeal to authority fallacy
CALL OF DOODY TOTALLY STOLE THAT FRICKING AK-47 MESH FROM <insert game here>, HOW DARE THEY
I cannot believe your having a mental breakdown over this
I'm making a joke, lad. The fact that you interpreted my post as anger just shows that you're even more of a moron.
>im just pretending to be moronic how dare you believe me!
Your on Ganker why the frick wouldnt i think you are?
>palBlack folk can only strawman because they know they have no argument
I've used maya, 3dsmax and blender for over a decade
They copied luxray
it is not hard to modify vertices or retopo anything
Converting between formats and making SFM porn doesn't count
You realize sfm porn people literally rip game models to make the porn models right?
Ripping game models falls under "converting between formats" and any fricking moron can do it. Thanks for proving my point, however.
yes and the palBlack person devs did that you moron
also nobody uses sfm to make porn anymore and havn't since like 2014
people moved to blender or c4d or maya or daz ages ago
Is it basically or actually a 1:1 stolen asset. Use your words correctly
I literally said copied, read for frick sake
>differences are basically non existent
So there differences
There really isn't. There is no way you make a design so similiar without it being intentional.
>there are differences but I feel like they don’t count
There isn't your grasping onto a straw that isnt there. Listen its okay to copy other designs everybody does it. But you sitting here coming up with stupid ass fricking copes that they are not that, is just idiotic.
>There really isn’t
See
, listen you’re an idiot, there’s a reason Nintendo isn’t taking this to court. You can’t copyright styles or design philosophies for a reason. It would be fricking moronic and if you want something to be a copy legally it actually has to be 1:1 at some respect and not just a “well it looks similar”
nothing your stupid ass just said has anything to do with my post. I didnt say they stole it fricking moron. I said they copied it.
>someone says the models are different
>you say they aren’t
>they are actually different in pretty much every aspect except for basic design philosophy
So are the models different or not, because if they’re not, then they stole them
>make design
>friend copied it but gave design a hat
OMG DIFFERENT!
Doesn’t really work because that would mean anything not hat related would have to be 1:1, but it’s not in this case as the meshes don’t even line up, nor the colors, nor the face, nor does the fur and so on.
>nooo i just recolored luxray yellow and removed his circle ears for triangle ears its different its new
Legally yes
>nuh uh its its only his legs and tail and mane and length and width and ears and the entire texture and didn't you know gamefreak owns all black lions.
>everything is the same proportions just accidentally
>Its the same proportions except on the x and y axis and also the tail is shorter, but I scaled the Z to be the same and they both have manes of some kind so its the same.
Sorry I actually watched the video.
>noooo see goku black and bardock have different designs reeeee
It's an assblasted undersageb& tendie, what are you expecting out of him? Rational behavior? Proper spelling and grammar?
Stolen luxray that they modified some vertices to create a "new" mon then retopod it
>they only changed the colors, gave it different ears, eyes, snout shape, proportions, and changed pretty much the whole mesh, but it’s actually a stolen asset
>modified 0.5%
>OMG SO DIFFERENT ORIGINAL GROUND BREAKING
>identical silhouette and proportion that are impossible to accidentally do unless you literal did copy or use the original asset slightly modified
>
>its 99.5% the same
>Source: a twitter post showed that two cartoon lions have similar proportions
>im coping an idiotic talking point
we know
>source is literally the mesh and design
>identical silhouette
>look at video
>vertices are clipping past eachother and not lining up
lol
>nooo goku black wears different clothes to goku do his silhouette is different!?!
so the silhouette isn’t identical, lmao moron use your words correctly next time. similar and identical are 2 different words with distinctly different meanings, ESL
It's Nintroony cope. They don't have an argument and there is no legal case.
The moronation of those people is amusing
Yesterday it was "confirmed" they were using AI models.
Now its "confirmed" they hand edited existing pokemon ones?
Why can't you guys stick to one story.
its blatantly obvious they stole pokemon assets and slliced them then retopod them
Just like it was blatantly obvious yesterday they used AI generated assets. Right?
Its blatantly obvious they stole assets from the beginning
michael mouse says no
That was you morons trying to deflect. As soon as the models started being posted it was like someone sent out a script.
All the same gays on twitter calling it AI yesterday are calling it retpo copies today.
I'm sorry anon, but it's not going to work. I was here yesterday. I saw you gays switch scripts in real time.
Pokemon didn't invent video games
guys i think the person who drew this stole from sega
>someones clear attempt at drawing DK in the Sonic adventure artstyle using sonic adventures design language
moron
now apply the same logic to palworld
>one is fanart
>the other is a commercial product
yes they stole the pokemon designs, assers and copied the pokemon design language
fricking street shitters actually defending blatant theft
palworld is a fan parody
nobody on Ganker right now knows what the concept of a parody is
is this is legally distinct than so is everything in palworld
That is intentionally parody and is literally bart, palworld is not parody and the devs never said it is
>and is literally bart
no it's a different character with the same name
>palworld is not parody and the devs never said it is
>Pokemon is all about friendship, and bonding with animals (pokemons)
>Palworld is about guns, and slaving them
Yeah anon...I don't see why it isn't a parody...
no it isn't
the creators do not consider it parody so it was not intentionally made as any kind of parody
i mean them straight up saying it was could introduce some legal quagmires, its important to remember japanese law is very different then US
even japan is shitting on palworld devs
probably just saying this out of fear of being raped by nintendo
Yikes, NOW they're fricked.
Not that it matters, the long-term damage to Nintendo & GameFreak has already been done. PalWorld's insane success has opened the eyes to the rest of the industry: that there is an enormous market that's desperate for a good monster-tamer or Pokemon clone with open-world gameplay, multiplayer functionality, nonlinear player freedom and modernized game mechanics.
There's going to be clones - clones releasing games better than anything GameFreak or Nintendo can concoct. Nintendo won the lawsuit battle; Palworld may have died due to their pants-on-head moronic asset-flip scamming, but GameFreak & Nintendo have lost the long-term IP war (assuming they don't get their acts together - and they wont; it's fricking GameFreak after all.)
that's all it took?
asset flip, release on PC?
4 million units sold?
I should try to rip off a dead franchise too
Just identify a niche and fill it with a passably enjoyable product, who knew it was that simple
BASED
game freak is probably seething so hard right now
only morons in this thread, not surprised both Pokemon and Palworld are doing well
I knew it.
kneel gays
i was right
the funny thing is, they made some designs distinctive enough but others not. Like why? Why half ass some of them?
IDK. some of them were completely unique as far as i know. but i wanna say at least 1/4 or 1/3 pals are just straight asset rips from pokemon.
why risk you entire franchise because instead of creating something unique from the groud up.
you literally take the assests and just remold them and expect no one to notice.
i spend tens of thousands of hours over the years playing and looking at pokemon.
HOW THE FRICK YOU THINK THIS IS GOING OVER MY HEAD, let alone the people that actually created them.
they should sue. its not even kinda similar.
I think they just got lazy.
>Have to point to 4 different pokemon to show its a "clone"
dont Undermind me you little c**t.
i hope all your dollars you spent on this shit game goes back into shitendos wallets.
Who gives a frick. Use the actual models for all I care. If Nintendo actually made a good game with these designs in the last 20 years this wouldn't be a problem.
Based Palworld dev knows that people will mod Pokemons into the game anyway so he makes designs that will be easily animated when using ripped Pokemon models.