About her indirectly causing the fall of Ubersreik and Athel Yenlui and that if the other 4 would know the truth they would kill her on the spot or about her new career?
Is that supposed to make her some kind of saint? Sounds like they should just kill her because she's a treacherous c**t and probably meant to do it for all they know.
1 year ago
Anonymous
She's useful. Like Sienna is useful to Saltzpyre. They need each other in the first game, in the second they're just pals because I guess they are now.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah so I guess it's convenient that she fricked up and got a lot of people killed because they're "pals," moron. Someone knifes me in the back like that they get a bullet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
She didn't knife anyone in the back and there's nothing convenient about it.
I don't think you understand the character.
Basically she was told that Ubersreik is at fault for the fall of her homeland, so she slaughtered a regime that was supposed to help with with the Skaven. That was, of course, a lie, and it made things a lot, lot worse.
Now she has to atone for it by killing Skavens and helping the other four. It's also why she's often counting her kills.
If Kruber or Saltz found out, they'd kill her on the spot.
>If Kruber or Saltz found out, they'd kill her on the spot.
Didn't Saltz know it by now? The conversation about Hoggard's bridge implies that he realizes it.
that conversation is almost a meme and they never mention it again. Maybe cause he knows she's useful. nta btw. I don't think they'd kill her if we're talking about after all of their adventures, but at some point they probably would.
I decided to try this out since I got it for free and I ran out of content after about 20 hours
determined that anyone who plays it longer than that is just addicted to loot boxes
>determined that anyone who plays it longer than that is just addicted to loot boxes
No, we like the gameplay. I haven't opened any chests in a while, but playing legend chaos wastes runs every now and when. It's fun.
>I ran out of content after about 20 hours
if you just play every map once on normal mode then yeah of course
the point is to replay it on harder modes, with modifiers, with new builds, etc
Last time I played, it was dual swords for shade and handmaiden was a bad joke. Weapon meta changed often but I'd sooner believe you are just an idiot then that they made handmaiden anything else.
In any case, spear was basically useless against armored enemies (eg stormvermin). Face stabs were unreliable at best simply due to the animations (unlike say the Rapier where raping faces is all day fun). Great for hordes of weak shit, but if you can't handle everything the game throws at you to some degree then you may as well not play.
Handmaiden is good at running away and being worse than useless. If you are solo speedrunning she's the best character, if you are doing anything else she should be kick on sight.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Her stamina buff alone makes her a must have you pleb.
1 year ago
Anonymous
t. champ
1 year ago
Anonymous
you are talking about bad players, not the career
the career is great, she has infinite stamina, massive attack speed, has access to the broken elf weapons, has invisibility on laughably short cooldown, has a dash and even gets a shield with amazing offensive capabilities
handmaiden is top fun if you enjoy melee combat, spamming lights with 2h sword was great even before the recent twohander buff
1 year ago
Anonymous
tfw shield is behind 17 dolla shit dlc
1 year ago
Anonymous
your argument being? the game and all content DLC costs less than 30 bucks in total
1 year ago
Anonymous
I made an argument?
1 year ago
Anonymous
well I'm asking why you posted this irrelevant remark, are you trying to make a point?
1 year ago
Anonymous
i think his point is that he doesn't want to give Fatshart a cent anymore
a common feeling
What the absolute frick is she doing? Does she have to take shit that very moment, is she having a heart attack? What would posses her to leave the car like that?
Stolen car, she tried to ditch it. Normal people might try to do so in a more secluded area to avoid being caught on camera immediately, but you know how melanin suppresses brain activity.
it's canon that an Elf goddess abandoned her people to go be Bretonnia's goddess, not only that she kindaps Bretonnian shotas too
just the way it is knife ear
>it's canon that an Elf goddess abandoned her people to go be Bretonnia's goddess
The same goddess that created a realm for elves in ET and took an elf husband. >not only that she kindaps Bretonnian shotas too
Who are sacrificed. They also kidnap Bretonnian girls, but somehow I never hear you porn addicts talk about that.
>Who are sacrificed.
No they aren't, they're kept as eternally youthful attendants. As I recall there's a story about a Bretonnian Knight who journeyed into Athel Loren on a quest and a met a young man who served the Elves, only to then discover that the 'young man' was in fact some cousin from several generations past.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon, do not talk to the poser unless you want to waste your time with severe autism.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>As I recall there's a story about a Bretonnian Knight who journeyed into Athel Loren on a quest
That's true. There is also a short story that describes a ritual Orion (or was it to Orion?) sacrifices them, but I cannot remember its name.
There is certainly nothing sexual going on, that's just laughable.
Anon, do not talk to the poser unless you want to waste your time with severe autism.
A waifugay makes anti-elf posts, it has to be this way.
1 year ago
Anonymous
For one who claims to love Warhammer elves so much, you have a distinct lack of models.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hey, I'm just here for the inevitable shitposting.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I'm just here for the inevitable shitposting.
Ironic coming from a shitposter.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>it's canon that an Elf goddess abandoned her people to go be Bretonnia's goddess
The same goddess that created a realm for elves in ET and took an elf husband. >not only that she kindaps Bretonnian shotas too
Who are sacrificed. They also kidnap Bretonnian girls, but somehow I never hear you porn addicts talk about that.
No, male magic users get grail immediately and are raised by lady. Louen leads a bunch of these dudes when he receives the grail.
>and took an elf husband.
No she didn't. Araloth was AT BEST an ex that she asked to move her stuff. More like a one night stand she had centuries ago in fact but who still keeps chasing after her. She married Louen.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>She married Louen
Now that is entirely your fanfiction.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? She literally fricking raises him to divinity after his second death, makes him her consort, and tells him if he ever dies she'll die with him. Don't post a smug elf with your ignorance, you look extra dumb.
Dancing with the spawn Spawn is similar to the rat ogre, since it will always go for the grab when you’re close, similar to how the ogre will always slam. The main challenge is getting the timing right, since you have to obviously avoid it, but also have to make sure you stay close enough that you can get in and bait the grab again, rather than eat a combo or slam.
If you want to get an attack in while it’s doing the combo, block the first two attacks and dodge sideways for the third, similar to the Minotaur
Throwing ax is a meme weapon. If you aren’t doing dual hammers / dual axes for the double dual wield talent I see some people do dual axes for hordes / coghammer for headshotting armored
Reminder that Nagash got beaten to true immortality by a dwarf too angry to stay dead, an unwashed barbarian who hit him with a hammer, and a frog who one day just decided he didn’t want to be dead anymore.
I don't care how much the lore has been broken already but if she ended up being a necro herself or her sister was playable, Saltz would execute her on the spot. I'm tired of fire as much as everyone but necromancy is beyond heresy.
VT2 was already a frickup compared to 1. Fatshark just loves fricking up, monetization and being lazy.
Anyway how's Bardin these days? I remember Slayer being too risky and lacking crowd control, RV being a bit weak but having some meme infinite ammo builds and everyone just running iron breaker.
I love playing Engineer in chaos wastes runs, it's fun. >horde destroyer >specials destroyer >monster remover
The only problem are chaos warriors, but even they can be dealt with with a bomb or two.
Ranger gets to shit out a free bomb every time he uses an old ranger’s trick, which makes him useful in normal missions and the most broken class in the game in chaos wastes
Greed.
VT2 had a similarly rocky start, but even with the bugs and the post Bogenhafen drought, it was playable, because the progression was very simple.
Darktide, in a fit of supreme idiocy I have rarely seen, timegated the progression with gacha mechanics while deliberately sealing off the crafting (I do not believe for a second that they don’t have it ready), which has completely bottlenecked the game.
Even if the game was stable, forcing players to go into higher difficulties underprepared was never going to go down well, but with the performance issues the blatant attempt to keep people on a treadmill has made people lose patience.
>Shade >ever dying
Shade is so busted you can do cata runs solo. You LITERALLY have 10 seconds of total invincibility every 30 seconds due to crits resetting your career ability. And you have to be moronic to not hit crits with every second swing at least.
>Why would handmaiden by the carry you choose?
So they can have green health, most new players panic when they cart and see only temp health. Also if they do cart twice the low skill refresh time on the HM means I can disengage and dash to them relatively unhindered with the becoming invisible passive
handmaiden's a really good combat class
asrai alacrity, power from pain and willow stance give you +25% crit chance, +10% damage and +45% attack speed
compare it to a slayer who gets 37.5% attack speed and 45% damage or zealot who gets 30% damage and 45% attack speed
power from pain stacks are also easier to keep up and refresh than zealot and slayer's stacks and handmaiden is also good defensively
power from pain lasts 15 seconds and if you're attacking something you're going to gain those 5 remaining seconds
and if you didn't dash through 5 enemies every time you refresh it you'll gain stacks instead of counting how many you got that particular time
so you can basically dash through a monster 5 times while hitting it enough to refresh and you'll build up 5 stacks over time
willow stance gives you 5% attack speed if you dash once every 6 second up to 3 stacks
post builds/playstyles >handmaiden >ghost walk >dash through middle of hordes >spin through crowds without worrying about getting body blocked and keep hitting
There are days when I'm tempted to buy the Naggarothi Shade cosmetic but then I remember the money would go to Fatshart and change my mind. Still it look damn fine.
I caught noldorBlack person replying to himself about rat rats raping elves just so he can come into the thread and cry about it while spamming his husbandogay coomer shit. It is probably the most embarrassing fricking shit I've ever witnessed.
Not in this thread you brain damaged imbecile, don't be ridiculous.
Posting screenshots like this is the stupidest thing imaginable when it's 2 clicks in Gankerx to mark a post as your own or remove it.
Learn to use the fricking internet you literal toddler.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Not in this thread you brain damaged imbecile, don't be ridiculous
Okay, but I never did what you accuse me in that post. Care to post some evidence?
I mean, I'm posting completely unsexualized pictures while others shitpost about rat-racemixing, and yet you talk about "husbando coomer shit". On how many levels of deflection are you on?
1 year ago
Anonymous
You literally admitted it in the thread, it was the funniest fricking thing when you were baffled about unique IPs.
You know what happened, child. Stop embarrassing yourself.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That never happened.
If I already live so rent free in your head, you could at least save some screenshot to use as ammunition against me. That would be the smart thing to BTFO me forever. But you don't seem smart. Anyone can lie, but it takes some effort to do it well. This is an anonymous image board, anyone can claim anything at any point. Learn to use Ganker
1 year ago
Anonymous
You don't matter enough. Anonymous imageboard or not when there are only 2 posters in a thread and one of them is me then it's obviously the OP samegayging crying about rat rape against elves.
I've been here longer than you've been alive. I'm just here to remind you how much of a fricking embarrassment you are. Receipts are not needed because you were there.
Denying it just makes it funnier.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you are just one of these ratBlack folk.
What a waste of trying to remember things.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Does that make you feel better, child? You know what you did. Literal newbie shit but too fricking stupid to change IPs.
I don't need people to see you what a fricking embarrassment you are, I'm just here to remind you of it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nah, still don't remember it, but glad to know that it's so important to you.
Now go, jerk off to your furhomosexual art.
>degenerate coomer husbandogay knows absolutely frick all about the lore
Why is this fricking embarrassment tolerated?
What the frick are you even talk about
The only coomer shit I see in this thread is the usual straight shit. Why are you always like this/
1 year ago
Anonymous
Because they have no other argument.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But why is it even an argument?
I have no idea what he's complaining about. Straights usually turn into schizos at the first sign of gay shit but this is a new level.
Supposedly, it's a curse. It could be that the developers were inspired by a certain type of asur official art that gave them black eyes. Black eyes were never canon for fantasy elves, but some people like them.
I don’t care about it being OP, but I do care about it being so brain dead that it encourages morons to spam it to the point of wiping out vast chunks of health in FF
For me it was when a handmaiden kept FFing a bounty hunter, and stopped when he just raised his pistol without saying a word.
Then kept doing it after picking up the grimoire because they thought he wouldn’t shoot them. he did
>Chaos daemon attempts to emotionally manipulate the Ubersreik Five but has no real leverage over Kruber
Always found that funny, since he should be the most mentally unstable one due to his PTSD.
salt imo had the best FF quotes
kruber! you hit me... again!
There are conversations for stealing kills, well at least one.
I was playing grail knight once and killed a monster who was low health already and when this converstation happened >[someone accuses Kruber for kill stealing] >[Bardin] Aye, stealing kills, (...), our Kruber has became quite a villain!
Happened only once but I was blown away by this.
>image implies
It’s based on a memri tv image because elves fit the template better, dumbass, it’s not supposed to be indicative any more than Khatep calling the empire homosexuals for worshipping Sigmar is.
Are you being willingly dense or are you really that fricking stupid?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Most of these meme images are about elves.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh frick off you dishonest homosexual.
There’s about fifty memri tv images that regularly do the rounds, so link, post or even reference ten about elves.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Most of these meme images are about elves.
stop fighting mayflies
1 year ago
Anonymous
No.
Someone bald faced lying needs to be called a gay or they won’t ever stop.
The ones that fricked everything up where humans (including chaos humans and undead humans), while even dark elves managed to put up a fight against the inevitable.
>Tought Nagash Sorcery; helping bring about the downfall of Nehekara >Help bring Nagash back to life; bringing about the death of based Settra >Uses a false flag operation to make the Dwarves go to war; bringing the downfall of the Dwarven empire >manipulate the Bretonnians for centuries; using them as a buffer state >come out of the woods every year to hunt the Bretonnians >create the single largest slave based society in the world >Trap Sigmar in their moronic vortex for centuries on accident >Killing Ubersriek soldiers >Steal the Flame of Ulric; leading to the downfall of Middenhiem and directly contributing to the destruction of the world
"N-no! I-It was the humans!"
characters and map story not unique, and they didn't make up for that with good or interesting writing. I like the aesthetic and combat but in many other ways the game is lacking.
Its the shitty loot mechanic. Vermintide 2 had its grind, but it was mostly just doing good (Taking tomes and grims in fixed locations) and taking chests. But now you have to wait for weapon rotation, deal with an obnoxious crafting system, and grims & tomes are almost random.
Add that to only 4 classes instead of 16 classes for vermintide at launch, and game gets boring fast.
For me it's the lack of actual characters; makes things feel very impersonal. Sure, you'll get a funny voice line from time to time but no actual connections between characters or anything. Just a bunch of dudes going to kill Chaos in random places.
Another thing is that Skaven have a lot of character to them, they easily be flipped from funny naked rat things, really cool gunners or horrific slavers
When I see Darktide I can see some pretty cool armor, but nothing particularly memorable yet like a Warpfire Thrower, Gutter Runner or Chaos Warrior
Character creation was a mistake. I was afraid that the characters they showed in the trailers were going to be who we were getting (asian zealot and mohawk dyke guardsman) but coped by saying fatshart's writing would be good enough to make them likeable regardless. Then they just completely shit the bed, made everyone generic and basically managed to recreate Fallout 4's problem by giving every class multiple personalities with fully voiced lines meaning they could only have but so much dialogue and but so many interactions between personalities that 90% of it just amounts to quips and 1 sentence "banter" between two characters. If they keep adding onto it and keep adding more and more lines, preferably adding more that involve multiple personalities between classes saying things to each other then maybe they can patch things up but right now it just feels like the constraints of game design are leaking though into the game itself and it makes things feel hollow.
Also as somebody else said, the nurgle enemies have absolutely NO personality whatsoever, poxwalkers are just boring zombies and the soldiers just behave exactly like normal guardsmen (which I think is the point because they're clearly making a "look you're both the same haha, isn't that le ironic???" point but still). Bosses are so generic it hurts and even the administration on the mourningstar just feels very uninspired (except Hadron who is the best character in the game by a country mile). Lohner doesn't get enough credit for being an important 6th character in Vermintide.
Same reason fighting games have 'unique' characters is the same reason coop does as well.
With the exception of DRG every other coop that has bad characterization like back for blood or none like Darktide, have no staying power no matter the gameplay. As much as the maps get repetitive in VT games, this can be drowned out by likeable, funny banter of characters that are ironically unlikeable to others for the same reasons.
This affects maps, overall story and setting. Vt1 was a 5 man crew in a besieged city going out at night mostly, while b***hing and bickering, with the real threat of execution by Saltz of the wizard for example and genuine character grievances amongst each other told purely through dialogue.
The combat in Darktide is not bad, a lot of the weapons are DOA like the headhunter autoguns but that is a balancing issue and there have always been shit tier/perma bad weapons in Vermintide. The argument about lack of classes is moot. Vt1 had 0 and just the 5 characters. Vt2 is what happens after you firmly establish your characters and then you can branch into what ifs. Fatshark could have done this during Darktide months from now except instead they went the lazy, copout wanting to have purple haired progressive non white women in the spotlight but were too chicken to pull the trigger and base a whole game around it. So now we have 10 times the voice lines and yet largely nothing interesting or rememberable said.
Darktide was advertised and sold on the idea of a central story and figures and instead has less than release Vt1. Player customisation would have been cool if they simply allowed it for a generic 'shit kicker' option per class while having purpose designed and written official characters. Have the main cast treat theme exactly as they are treated now. Imagine running an Empire merc as well as Kruber but he only has generic lines and responses.
Progression is also dogshit but that *can* be patched.
I agree. Also darktide maps all look the fricking same. It's all industrial catwalks. God I thought that levels were procedurally generated for the first few hours of play.
I'm 90% sure they wanted to do procedural generation until the last 6mth or so of development, explains why they use the same areas on different maps every so often as well.
DOA. No one, and I mean literally NO ONE except for trannies plays AoS in all of Sydney, and I have been to most B&M LGS. AoS is dead in the TTG scene outside paid promotion events by GW and has 0 interest from secondaries.
I am close friends with 2 store managers from two large stores (both play private at my house for in house game nights), and every time someone buys an AoS model its to fill out their WHFB army they are reviving or daemons for example for 40k.
literally everybody agress AoS has better balance than 40k cope.
Same reason fighting games have 'unique' characters is the same reason coop does as well.
With the exception of DRG every other coop that has bad characterization like back for blood or none like Darktide, have no staying power no matter the gameplay. As much as the maps get repetitive in VT games, this can be drowned out by likeable, funny banter of characters that are ironically unlikeable to others for the same reasons.
This affects maps, overall story and setting. Vt1 was a 5 man crew in a besieged city going out at night mostly, while b***hing and bickering, with the real threat of execution by Saltz of the wizard for example and genuine character grievances amongst each other told purely through dialogue.
The combat in Darktide is not bad, a lot of the weapons are DOA like the headhunter autoguns but that is a balancing issue and there have always been shit tier/perma bad weapons in Vermintide. The argument about lack of classes is moot. Vt1 had 0 and just the 5 characters. Vt2 is what happens after you firmly establish your characters and then you can branch into what ifs. Fatshark could have done this during Darktide months from now except instead they went the lazy, copout wanting to have purple haired progressive non white women in the spotlight but were too chicken to pull the trigger and base a whole game around it. So now we have 10 times the voice lines and yet largely nothing interesting or rememberable said.
Darktide was advertised and sold on the idea of a central story and figures and instead has less than release Vt1. Player customisation would have been cool if they simply allowed it for a generic 'shit kicker' option per class while having purpose designed and written official characters. Have the main cast treat theme exactly as they are treated now. Imagine running an Empire merc as well as Kruber but he only has generic lines and responses.
Progression is also dogshit but that *can* be patched.
And worse everything else, which is saying something. Imagine being a worse setting than fricking 40k, which barely exists as something able to be cared about.
I never said anything about balance. It doesn't matter though, no one is playing it or collecting models. Excluding the 2-3 armies like greenskins that can be used in 40k etc. AoS exclusive models are selling as bad as WHFB brettonia circa 2010.
It is why even with nothing to show for it GW kneejerked, and shat out an old world promo because the best selling AoS armies are all WHFB crossovers or dual purpose 40k. AoS came out strong initially sure, but the last 5 years has been dogshit for GW in AoS sales and they are the only setting that saw negative growth during covid. Blood Bowl had a larger gain in models sold globally than AoS.
Of the largest portion of sales of AoS models most are not used in AoS games. AoS is a disaster for GW and they were caught flatfooted. 40k is making up the slack since it exploded over the last 3 years but now that is falling too as the market share normalises and inflation +cost of living is killing a lot of new and potential customers. AoS has the least engagement world wide and literally unless GW pays a LGS to host a tournament its exceedingly rare to find anyone interested in running one. Even then its always tacked on to 40k tournaments as a side thing.
AoS will never get a big budget game because it doesn't know what it wants to be and outside model hobbyists only, it cannot produce new external interest in the setting. Maybe 20 years ago, but now we have more than a decade of generic bright and colourful gacha and mobile game shovel ware that is indistinguishable on a surface level from AoS. GW fricked up. >inb4 models
t. Not even a WHFB player.
40k has a problem with pauldrons, everybody other than maybe some of the undead in AoS has the biggest, most moronic hats. Even old characters they’ve brought forward have had their hats been made more moronic. How did they manage to make Archaon’s helmet even fricking sillier?
1 year ago
Anonymous
2bh I don't care about AoS and I'm just here to trigger you homosexuals over AoS. I think however the models do look great. I collect 40k
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, not even the people who post about AoS care about it. This is known.
Ok. They are pretty to look at. Yet no one is buying them enough to support the setting. Not to mention the stigma of purple haired unwashed 'women' who make up most of the public profile of the playerbase.
I am not saying I *want* it to fail. I am saying I could not care less and it is doing it anyway. No matter how much they tidy the rules up and make the game component more fun or how nice the sculpts are there is no one to play with.
Meanwhile I have 8 people I regularly play with at my house or 2 others on rotation, and there is always a 40k game going somewhere publicly. I can get a blood bowl game more often than not than even see anyone doing AoS. I frequent 5 different stores across Sydney, (due to my job requirement) ranging from Randwick to Parramatta, Castle Hill and Northern Sydney collectively encompassing the area of 2.5-3 million people.
AoS is on the shelves and posters and promos exist but are never prominent and no one is ever playing it in stores unless the store itself is lending out test armies to randoms. Even the non LGS, non tournament, common games night hosts running 10+ other game systems rarely mention AoS being played. I have asked a few every now and again out of curiosity and its always the same answer - at best 2 people, though usually one guy will bring models with his other stuff but never have an opponent.
AoS is in dire straits and no bull shot pro painted models will convince me otherwise. Unless the largest city in Australia uniquely hates AoS, though I have heard its dead in Melbourne and Brisbane as well.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If nobody buys AoS why does GW keep shitting out AoS models?
>AoS is in dire straits and no bull shot pro painted models will convince me otherwise. Unless the largest city in Australia uniquely hates AoS, though I have heard its dead in Melbourne and Brisbane as well.
maybe you aussies have shit taste?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>maybe you aussies have shit taste?
There is a very good chance with Vegemite and VB being so popular. >If nobody buys AoS why does GW keep shitting out AoS models?
I am not in their executive I have no idea. Its not like GW is known for making good business decisions anyway - if we go off the current industry rumour mill GW is actively trying to kill the TTG entirely and just sell 'premium' plastic crack and paints only. We might be living in a reality where all Warhammer armies are in the same position as WHFB is now and relic rule systems or in house rules are all that is left.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon I have never heard a more moronic take, As expected from an australian.
And worse everything else, which is saying something. Imagine being a worse setting than fricking 40k, which barely exists as something able to be cared about.
I never said anything about balance. It doesn't matter though, no one is playing it or collecting models. Excluding the 2-3 armies like greenskins that can be used in 40k etc. AoS exclusive models are selling as bad as WHFB brettonia circa 2010.
It is why even with nothing to show for it GW kneejerked, and shat out an old world promo because the best selling AoS armies are all WHFB crossovers or dual purpose 40k. AoS came out strong initially sure, but the last 5 years has been dogshit for GW in AoS sales and they are the only setting that saw negative growth during covid. Blood Bowl had a larger gain in models sold globally than AoS.
Of the largest portion of sales of AoS models most are not used in AoS games. AoS is a disaster for GW and they were caught flatfooted. 40k is making up the slack since it exploded over the last 3 years but now that is falling too as the market share normalises and inflation +cost of living is killing a lot of new and potential customers. AoS has the least engagement world wide and literally unless GW pays a LGS to host a tournament its exceedingly rare to find anyone interested in running one. Even then its always tacked on to 40k tournaments as a side thing.
AoS will never get a big budget game because it doesn't know what it wants to be and outside model hobbyists only, it cannot produce new external interest in the setting. Maybe 20 years ago, but now we have more than a decade of generic bright and colourful gacha and mobile game shovel ware that is indistinguishable on a surface level from AoS. GW fricked up. >inb4 models
t. Not even a WHFB player.
Not that much, could be way worse. The Wild Hunt can kill lots of humans, but it also destroys beastmen and orcs on a regular basis.
You can be attacked immediately for trespassing into Athel Loren, but there are also stories about them welcoming wanderers into a feast and then guiding them outside (and they then have to deal with several decades having past), as well as suddenly appearing even in the empire to help humans fighting orcs and beastmen. People will rage against this post
That could be a different story, but I remember a story or some fluff blurb where a Bretonnian knight stumbles into Athel Loren and is greeted by a wood elf banquet. They let him join their feasts and drinks, and is then guided outside only to realize that several decades have past.
the funny thing about Dawi is that they are fricking insufferable to deal with but are the ones less actively frick you over
they are also the only ones that never used slaves
Dawi are insufferable stubborn fricks that hard to deal with always grumbling and prone to get into a fight to prove his point even if it's not true, but they're also the most trustworthy due to being straightforward and honouring oaths above all else.. i fricking love this comics since elves just tried to deal with skaven or chaos in the mine and dwarf just misunderstood.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He spent five years in jail for killing some high elves traders who didn't have frick all to do with his mine
1 year ago
Anonymous
They may have been related to elfs in the mine, please understand, guy just wants his mine back, maybe kill some elf too while he is at it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Way too little jail time.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Way too little jail time.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Middenheim has a bias towards Dwarfs, the whole empire does.
>"Hah, smells like roses! You call that a poison wind, gas-rat?" >BBBBBPPPPHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTT >*ting* *ting* *ting* *ting* *ting* *ting*
>Just had another slayer jump in to a group of SV's during horde >They die, leave and the lobby closes since they were the host
Just to reiterate again, I fricking hate dwarf players
I'm going to give the benefit of doubt and say that the elf joined mid game and Kruber was probably using something like a mace. Still, taking that much damage with FK tells me he still hasn't grasped blocking or dodging. What difficulty were you on?
And since Snorri is a high king and Malekith, at the time, was one of the most respected and powerful elven princes both dwarfs and elfs were comfortable in alliance with each other. In fact war of the beard/vengeance didn't really picked off at first since both sides were hesitant l
Ive played like 15 hours of VT2 and I despise the elf. Plus the Kerillian players stereotype seems to be very accurate in practice, which means youre constantly hearing her voice lines trigger.
I put up with it about 10 hours and then just started ignoring Kerillian players completely unless I have an opportunity to yank a draught they need or to toss a barrel at them. Reading Elf lore just now didnt help with that.
Elf? ELF
Sweaty babymaking sex with Kerillian.
her eyes remind me of coraline
which is probably why its slightly unsettling
Dirty b***h needs a bath
You knife eared piece of shit
made for BKC
Any loremasters here?
How basly did she frick up?
Several magnitudes of bad. She's more or less the reason why the situation in the first game was so dire because she got duped by Chaos.
Qrd?
About her indirectly causing the fall of Ubersreik and Athel Yenlui and that if the other 4 would know the truth they would kill her on the spot or about her new career?
Her stupidity almost single-handedly caused the fall of Ubersreik.
And she still has the audacity to act like she's superior to everyone else. What a stupid, stupid b***h.
She does that to emotionally distance herself from the rest of the group so in case she dies they won't even pause to mourn her.
Is that supposed to make her some kind of saint? Sounds like they should just kill her because she's a treacherous c**t and probably meant to do it for all they know.
She's useful. Like Sienna is useful to Saltzpyre. They need each other in the first game, in the second they're just pals because I guess they are now.
Yeah so I guess it's convenient that she fricked up and got a lot of people killed because they're "pals," moron. Someone knifes me in the back like that they get a bullet.
She didn't knife anyone in the back and there's nothing convenient about it.
I don't think you understand the character.
Halfwitted moron
>woman
>cause of something bad
color me shocked
No, I'm talking about the deal she made with elven god of death or something. Some dudes in previous vt2 threads claimed she'd be cursed forever.
Shes a tree now and will eventually want to kill all the meat
>Shes a tree now and will eventually want to kill all the meat
What the frick...
It's ok no one will live long enough for that to happen
Basically she was told that Ubersreik is at fault for the fall of her homeland, so she slaughtered a regime that was supposed to help with with the Skaven. That was, of course, a lie, and it made things a lot, lot worse.
Now she has to atone for it by killing Skavens and helping the other four. It's also why she's often counting her kills.
If Kruber or Saltz found out, they'd kill her on the spot.
>If Kruber or Saltz found out, they'd kill her on the spot.
Didn't Saltz know it by now? The conversation about Hoggard's bridge implies that he realizes it.
that conversation is almost a meme and they never mention it again. Maybe cause he knows she's useful. nta btw. I don't think they'd kill her if we're talking about after all of their adventures, but at some point they probably would.
I think that's supposed to be a different incident.
Ah yes, another two slaughtered by Kerillian regiments.
I decided to try this out since I got it for free and I ran out of content after about 20 hours
determined that anyone who plays it longer than that is just addicted to loot boxes
>determined that anyone who plays it longer than that is just addicted to loot boxes
No, we like the gameplay. I haven't opened any chests in a while, but playing legend chaos wastes runs every now and when. It's fun.
It's literally L4d2 but with gear. Getting gear to run veteran/champion takes no time at all.
>I ran out of content after about 20 hours
if you just play every map once on normal mode then yeah of course
the point is to replay it on harder modes, with modifiers, with new builds, etc
Nah, I probably have like 100 lootboxes untouched and waiting. I just enjoy clicking on rats.
I play because of the challenge on cats and above and nothing's better than bisecting 20 Pinky's with a heavy
TLDr:dopomene farm
Wait a minute....POGGERS BRIDGE?
SHE DECIDES TO SHOOT ME NOW?
This thread goes up!
Why would he say that to her elf husband?
Thanks brodin, you always have my back
Step aside, Lumberfoots!
She's got this.
post the next panel
Shame the spear was absolute shit, it was such a fun weapon to use.
wtf are you talking about
spear is the meta weapon for shade and handmaiden too
Last time I played, it was dual swords for shade and handmaiden was a bad joke. Weapon meta changed often but I'd sooner believe you are just an idiot then that they made handmaiden anything else.
In any case, spear was basically useless against armored enemies (eg stormvermin). Face stabs were unreliable at best simply due to the animations (unlike say the Rapier where raping faces is all day fun). Great for hordes of weak shit, but if you can't handle everything the game throws at you to some degree then you may as well not play.
Well Handmaiden is good and Spear is a great choice for all Elf careers
Handmaiden is good at running away and being worse than useless. If you are solo speedrunning she's the best character, if you are doing anything else she should be kick on sight.
Her stamina buff alone makes her a must have you pleb.
t. champ
you are talking about bad players, not the career
the career is great, she has infinite stamina, massive attack speed, has access to the broken elf weapons, has invisibility on laughably short cooldown, has a dash and even gets a shield with amazing offensive capabilities
handmaiden is top fun if you enjoy melee combat, spamming lights with 2h sword was great even before the recent twohander buff
tfw shield is behind 17 dolla shit dlc
your argument being? the game and all content DLC costs less than 30 bucks in total
I made an argument?
well I'm asking why you posted this irrelevant remark, are you trying to make a point?
i think his point is that he doesn't want to give Fatshart a cent anymore
a common feeling
are keysites ok?
dunno I only pirate console games
spear is good now
Always was if you could aim for the head. It's still mid if you don't.
so basically skill issue?
That's just shade bullshit. She can make any weapon deal tons of damage versus monsters.
>american author
I unironicly believe americans became insane when circumcision became the norm
I tried spear with sister of thorn and it was amazing
>t.ye olde beate orßiter
>lumberfo-ACK
Reminder that they nerfed the griffon foot to the ground from it's original glorious state.
It still fricks on BH.
DOUBLE THE DISCIPLINE
How do you get the proc indicator centered?
What the absolute frick is she doing? Does she have to take shit that very moment, is she having a heart attack? What would posses her to leave the car like that?
?
She's a Black person in body and soul, what do you expect.
Car was stolen and she ditched it.
You know why.
Stolen car, she tried to ditch it. Normal people might try to do so in a more secluded area to avoid being caught on camera immediately, but you know how melanin suppresses brain activity.
Why ditch it to begin with? I assume you steal something with the goal of retaining it.
>left the car and just walks like a GTA NPC
qrd?
I hate Dwarf players so much
>t. elf
>Get a slayer
>They always use their career skill off CD, enemies or not
>Attack spam to move faster like a moron
>Dies
>Leaves
MUST GO FASTER
>stack movement on hit, movement on jump and gork/mork’s boon in the citadel of eternity
>jump into a horde then instantly run off a cliff
Fug 😀
What is it with slayers and cliffs? They're like lemmings
Looks like he had the bonus damage talent and forgot about the cliff
You just can't take these guys seriously.
They look so pathetic.
Based role players.
Based, they're fully immersed into being a Slayer.
Oath fulfilled
Manlings wouldn't get it
Shut the frick up elfoid.
DELETED
Why do i keep seeing elfs job to these frickers.
Like at least 50% of elfs i see die are to them.
There seems to be some mysterious attraction between Kerillian and rats... curious.
Go back.
it's canon that an Elf goddess abandoned her people to go be Bretonnia's goddess, not only that she kindaps Bretonnian shotas too
just the way it is knife ear
>Bretonnians all simp for Lileath
This is why the Empire is superior.
How is it different from sucking off Sigmar all day? The Lady gives them superpowers, I'd worship her too.
Sigmar is but a speck amongst the divine, mayfly!
>Could've gotten long hair Kerillian for SoT
>Got an ugly granny hairstyle instead
Nuke Sweden
>it's canon that an Elf goddess abandoned her people to go be Bretonnia's goddess
The same goddess that created a realm for elves in ET and took an elf husband.
>not only that she kindaps Bretonnian shotas too
Who are sacrificed. They also kidnap Bretonnian girls, but somehow I never hear you porn addicts talk about that.
>Who are sacrificed.
No they aren't, they're kept as eternally youthful attendants. As I recall there's a story about a Bretonnian Knight who journeyed into Athel Loren on a quest and a met a young man who served the Elves, only to then discover that the 'young man' was in fact some cousin from several generations past.
Anon, do not talk to the poser unless you want to waste your time with severe autism.
>As I recall there's a story about a Bretonnian Knight who journeyed into Athel Loren on a quest
That's true. There is also a short story that describes a ritual Orion (or was it to Orion?) sacrifices them, but I cannot remember its name.
There is certainly nothing sexual going on, that's just laughable.
A waifugay makes anti-elf posts, it has to be this way.
For one who claims to love Warhammer elves so much, you have a distinct lack of models.
Hey, I'm just here for the inevitable shitposting.
>I'm just here for the inevitable shitposting.
Ironic coming from a shitposter.
No, male magic users get grail immediately and are raised by lady. Louen leads a bunch of these dudes when he receives the grail.
>and took an elf husband.
No she didn't. Araloth was AT BEST an ex that she asked to move her stuff. More like a one night stand she had centuries ago in fact but who still keeps chasing after her. She married Louen.
>She married Louen
Now that is entirely your fanfiction.
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? She literally fricking raises him to divinity after his second death, makes him her consort, and tells him if he ever dies she'll die with him. Don't post a smug elf with your ignorance, you look extra dumb.
Why can't I find anything about this anywhere?
End Times, my man. It's shit by the way.
>ET “lore”
Lilleath larped as The Lady of the Lake to turn Bretonnia into a bufferstate for Ulthuan
elf weapons have poor armor pierce
SVs are fairly common and have non-breakable shields
go figure
Thats why you use your arrows/javelins.
Assrai girls are MADE for Big Bretonnian Chivalry
Reminder this is 100% canon.
Mel Gibson bros..
If you want to play that game.
The mutual trade of b***hes is a goal all Humans and Elves should strive for
>"Things you can say about your axe you can't say about your wife."
GRIIIIIIMNIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRR
Dual axes + pickaxe is old school but you can't go wrong with it
What are some good slayer builds.
Im using dual hammers and the throwing axe.
Also how do i git gud at fighting the chaos spawn.
Dancing with the spawn Spawn is similar to the rat ogre, since it will always go for the grab when you’re close, similar to how the ogre will always slam. The main challenge is getting the timing right, since you have to obviously avoid it, but also have to make sure you stay close enough that you can get in and bait the grab again, rather than eat a combo or slam.
If you want to get an attack in while it’s doing the combo, block the first two attacks and dodge sideways for the third, similar to the Minotaur
Throwing ax is a meme weapon. If you aren’t doing dual hammers / dual axes for the double dual wield talent I see some people do dual axes for hordes / coghammer for headshotting armored
So what's your go-to SoT build?
just javelins
never switch to melee weapons
Lumber foot with a lumber aim!
What id give for a game like vermintide but you play chaos.
>Slaanesh dickgirl where you whack with your wiener, block with your balls and your career skill is a corrosive semen blast
I'd play it
>Playing as chaos undivided
>vs hordes of empire footmen, Brettonian peasants and rats because skaven are untrustworthy.
Reminder that Nagash got beaten to true immortality by a dwarf too angry to stay dead, an unwashed barbarian who hit him with a hammer, and a frog who one day just decided he didn’t want to be dead anymore.
Yes we all know Nagash is a homosexual moron, we don't need to hear about it every thread.
Eat shit, I will talk about Nagash
Sienna career in march for sure right bros?
>"NOT A NECROMANCER MARKUS. NOT A NECROMANCER."
I wonder if she'll still use the same voice lines and say that when her necromancer sister is her fourth career
I don't care how much the lore has been broken already but if she ended up being a necro herself or her sister was playable, Saltz would execute her on the spot. I'm tired of fire as much as everyone but necromancy is beyond heresy.
Saltz would have to be quick on the draw, since Kruber would ape out immediately
>Fight against Sienna's sister
>Sofia casts The Purple Sun of Xereus
>Kruber breaks don with PTSD
How did they frick up so badly for Darktide? Literally all they had to do was reskin VT2.
VT2 was already a frickup compared to 1. Fatshark just loves fricking up, monetization and being lazy.
Anyway how's Bardin these days? I remember Slayer being too risky and lacking crowd control, RV being a bit weak but having some meme infinite ammo builds and everyone just running iron breaker.
Slayer and Engineer are kind of shit but Ranger and Ironbreaker are top tier.
I love playing Engineer in chaos wastes runs, it's fun.
>horde destroyer
>specials destroyer
>monster remover
The only problem are chaos warriors, but even they can be dealt with with a bomb or two.
Ranger gets to shit out a free bomb every time he uses an old ranger’s trick, which makes him useful in normal missions and the most broken class in the game in chaos wastes
Greed.
VT2 had a similarly rocky start, but even with the bugs and the post Bogenhafen drought, it was playable, because the progression was very simple.
Darktide, in a fit of supreme idiocy I have rarely seen, timegated the progression with gacha mechanics while deliberately sealing off the crafting (I do not believe for a second that they don’t have it ready), which has completely bottlenecked the game.
Even if the game was stable, forcing players to go into higher difficulties underprepared was never going to go down well, but with the performance issues the blatant attempt to keep people on a treadmill has made people lose patience.
Sienna if she young and sexy.
Isn't Sienna the youngest of them?
Anon she's a fricking battle grandma, you can't possibly be serious.
I'm pretty sure she is
No? She's reaching 50. IIRC Saltz is in the mid and Kruber in the early 40s.
Even if she was, bright wizards snorting magical cocaine to keep overcasting their spells tend to age very fast
I always switch to handmaiden to carry beginners through Skittergate so they can collect the achievement.
For me, it's Shade and dying to a random overhead
>Shade
>ever dying
Shade is so busted you can do cata runs solo. You LITERALLY have 10 seconds of total invincibility every 30 seconds due to crits resetting your career ability. And you have to be moronic to not hit crits with every second swing at least.
>crits resetting your career ability
?
It's a weapon ability you get shortened skill recharge every 4 seconds with a crit.
>5% CDR every 4s
>permanent 20% attack speed buff
choose wisely
Spamming light attacks with the dual daggers i.e the only weapon you should use as a shade is basically pointless on a shade.
Stop posting from 2018
You won't convince me otherwise. Sword and dagger is a crutch weapon.
Why would handmaiden by the carry you choose? BH or Ironbreaker would be far superior.
Well you always seem to be the root cause of it, bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>Why would handmaiden by the carry you choose?
Free revives and practically invincible in good hands?
>Why would handmaiden by the carry you choose?
So they can have green health, most new players panic when they cart and see only temp health. Also if they do cart twice the low skill refresh time on the HM means I can disengage and dash to them relatively unhindered with the becoming invisible passive
>Well you always seem to be the root cause of it
Check the chain of replies to look for the root cause.
>Why would handmaiden by the carry you
Because a shield and spear handmaiden is basically invincible on anything besides cataclysm.
handmaiden's a really good combat class
asrai alacrity, power from pain and willow stance give you +25% crit chance, +10% damage and +45% attack speed
compare it to a slayer who gets 37.5% attack speed and 45% damage or zealot who gets 30% damage and 45% attack speed
power from pain stacks are also easier to keep up and refresh than zealot and slayer's stacks and handmaiden is also good defensively
>power from pain
come on man
>willow stance
what the hell is that?
power from pain lasts 15 seconds and if you're attacking something you're going to gain those 5 remaining seconds
and if you didn't dash through 5 enemies every time you refresh it you'll gain stacks instead of counting how many you got that particular time
so you can basically dash through a monster 5 times while hitting it enough to refresh and you'll build up 5 stacks over time
willow stance gives you 5% attack speed if you dash once every 6 second up to 3 stacks
you don't really need the crit, invis is more useful to be honest
post builds/playstyles
>handmaiden
>ghost walk
>dash through middle of hordes
>spin through crowds without worrying about getting body blocked and keep hitting
There are days when I'm tempted to buy the Naggarothi Shade cosmetic but then I remember the money would go to Fatshart and change my mind. Still it look damn fine.
>when Sienna replies to Saltz's shit talking by accusing him of loving her
Honestly the best lines in the game.
NOT NOW WITCH
>”perhaps I was aiming for you”
>VT1 has him deliver the line angrily
>VT2 has him deliver it slyly
What did they mean by this?
Heresy
Yeah that banter they have when he misses a bomb is kino
Fatshark has given me a fantasy that you literally can't find anywhere
Where am I supposed to get Witch x Hunter content?
/tg/
Too be fair, End Times is fricking moronic.
On the other hand, trying to police the depiction of a non-existent fantasy race is even more moronic.
SEXO
>off model
You are no better, rathomosexual.
Bet? What bet?
it's an irrelevant detail
>degenerate coomer husbandogay knows absolutely frick all about the lore
Why is this fricking embarrassment tolerated?
Tell me again how much shota-sex there actually is. Official sources only.
Look at the gay go, only caring about gay sex. Why are you such a fricking pornbrain?
I caught noldorBlack person replying to himself about rat rats raping elves just so he can come into the thread and cry about it while spamming his husbandogay coomer shit. It is probably the most embarrassing fricking shit I've ever witnessed.
Lol what.
Not in this thread you brain damaged imbecile, don't be ridiculous.
Posting screenshots like this is the stupidest thing imaginable when it's 2 clicks in Gankerx to mark a post as your own or remove it.
Learn to use the fricking internet you literal toddler.
>Not in this thread you brain damaged imbecile, don't be ridiculous
Okay, but I never did what you accuse me in that post. Care to post some evidence?
I mean, I'm posting completely unsexualized pictures while others shitpost about rat-racemixing, and yet you talk about "husbando coomer shit". On how many levels of deflection are you on?
You literally admitted it in the thread, it was the funniest fricking thing when you were baffled about unique IPs.
You know what happened, child. Stop embarrassing yourself.
That never happened.
If I already live so rent free in your head, you could at least save some screenshot to use as ammunition against me. That would be the smart thing to BTFO me forever. But you don't seem smart. Anyone can lie, but it takes some effort to do it well.
This is an anonymous image board, anyone can claim anything at any point. Learn to use Ganker
You don't matter enough. Anonymous imageboard or not when there are only 2 posters in a thread and one of them is me then it's obviously the OP samegayging crying about rat rape against elves.
I've been here longer than you've been alive. I'm just here to remind you how much of a fricking embarrassment you are. Receipts are not needed because you were there.
Denying it just makes it funnier.
So you are just one of these ratBlack folk.
What a waste of trying to remember things.
Does that make you feel better, child? You know what you did. Literal newbie shit but too fricking stupid to change IPs.
I don't need people to see you what a fricking embarrassment you are, I'm just here to remind you of it.
Nah, still don't remember it, but glad to know that it's so important to you.
Now go, jerk off to your furhomosexual art.
meds
What the frick are you even talk about
The only coomer shit I see in this thread is the usual straight shit. Why are you always like this/
Because they have no other argument.
But why is it even an argument?
I have no idea what he's complaining about. Straights usually turn into schizos at the first sign of gay shit but this is a new level.
whys the elf got black eyes
rat cum
Supposedly, it's a curse. It could be that the developers were inspired by a certain type of asur official art that gave them black eyes. Black eyes were never canon for fantasy elves, but some people like them.
‘SPERG FIGHT!
itoddlers like you should be publicly executed.
I'm sure you don't, it must have been too embarrassing.
Imagine being this much of a fricking failure that you frick up samegayging.
I completely forgot this was a Vermintide thread after tabbing out for 5min.
>Elf DLC is not overpowere-
I don’t care about it being OP, but I do care about it being so brain dead that it encourages morons to spam it to the point of wiping out vast chunks of health in FF
That's the thing. Its stats are fine, but the infinite ammo pool encourages spam. If it had as much as the bow, it would be perfectly balanced.
>Zoning out on shade, constantly FF'ing Salt
>He spergs out and leaves
I can understand his frustration, but it was fricking funny
For me it was when a handmaiden kept FFing a bounty hunter, and stopped when he just raised his pistol without saying a word.
Then kept doing it after picking up the grimoire because they thought he wouldn’t shoot them. he did
My two favorite careers.
>*cheats*
>LOOK GUIZE IT'S OP
Bait
you speak as though it's hard to hit headshots with those throwing logs
Staff is the real busted shit. Just neutralise chaos warriors or anything else you see with one click that doesn't even need to be aimed
It's balanced by the fact that it can only be used on one career.
>Chaos daemon attempts to emotionally manipulate the Ubersreik Five but has no real leverage over Kruber
Always found that funny, since he should be the most mentally unstable one due to his PTSD.
I always love how they mercilessly bully belacuck during pilgrimages.
Kruber is especially vicious
>Elf has arrows in her quiver
Did they remove this?
>watch your aim, elf... And mind your tongue too
always makes me chuckle
salt imo had the best FF quotes
kruber! you hit me... again!
There are conversations for stealing kills, well at least one.
I was playing grail knight once and killed a monster who was low health already and when this converstation happened
>[someone accuses Kruber for kill stealing]
>[Bardin] Aye, stealing kills, (...), our Kruber has became quite a villain!
Happened only once but I was blown away by this.
Friendly reminder that Elves screwed everyone over during The End Times, not just humans. The Dwarves were right about them all along.
Tomb Kings have no problems with elves.
Everyone has a problem with elves, including other elves.
They have no ship on their shoulder about elves like that meme image implies.
They hate Nagash, not elves.
>image implies
It’s based on a memri tv image because elves fit the template better, dumbass, it’s not supposed to be indicative any more than Khatep calling the empire homosexuals for worshipping Sigmar is.
Are you being willingly dense or are you really that fricking stupid?
Most of these meme images are about elves.
Oh frick off you dishonest homosexual.
There’s about fifty memri tv images that regularly do the rounds, so link, post or even reference ten about elves.
stop fighting mayflies
No.
Someone bald faced lying needs to be called a gay or they won’t ever stop.
Tomb Kings have a problem with everyone
Got a picture of them b***hing about dwarfs?
Make one yourself, if it’s funny people will repost it just as much, regardless of how accurate it is
As I remember one of the tomb kings before they became a skelies was a dwarf
The ones that fricked everything up where humans (including chaos humans and undead humans), while even dark elves managed to put up a fight against the inevitable.
>Tought Nagash Sorcery; helping bring about the downfall of Nehekara
>Help bring Nagash back to life; bringing about the death of based Settra
>Uses a false flag operation to make the Dwarves go to war; bringing the downfall of the Dwarven empire
>manipulate the Bretonnians for centuries; using them as a buffer state
>come out of the woods every year to hunt the Bretonnians
>create the single largest slave based society in the world
>Trap Sigmar in their moronic vortex for centuries on accident
>Killing Ubersriek soldiers
>Steal the Flame of Ulric; leading to the downfall of Middenhiem and directly contributing to the destruction of the world
"N-no! I-It was the humans!"
>"N-no! I-It was the humans!"
We call them Archaon and Mannfred.
And still Malekith did nothing wrong.
Why does Darktide feels so soulless compared to Vermintide?
40k is soulless, its only fitting
characters and map story not unique, and they didn't make up for that with good or interesting writing. I like the aesthetic and combat but in many other ways the game is lacking.
Its the shitty loot mechanic. Vermintide 2 had its grind, but it was mostly just doing good (Taking tomes and grims in fixed locations) and taking chests. But now you have to wait for weapon rotation, deal with an obnoxious crafting system, and grims & tomes are almost random.
Add that to only 4 classes instead of 16 classes for vermintide at launch, and game gets boring fast.
For me it's the lack of actual characters; makes things feel very impersonal. Sure, you'll get a funny voice line from time to time but no actual connections between characters or anything. Just a bunch of dudes going to kill Chaos in random places.
This is it for me. Those four in Vermintide sell the games.
Shitty OC characters instead of actual characters
Another thing is that Skaven have a lot of character to them, they easily be flipped from funny naked rat things, really cool gunners or horrific slavers
When I see Darktide I can see some pretty cool armor, but nothing particularly memorable yet like a Warpfire Thrower, Gutter Runner or Chaos Warrior
Character creation was a mistake. I was afraid that the characters they showed in the trailers were going to be who we were getting (asian zealot and mohawk dyke guardsman) but coped by saying fatshart's writing would be good enough to make them likeable regardless. Then they just completely shit the bed, made everyone generic and basically managed to recreate Fallout 4's problem by giving every class multiple personalities with fully voiced lines meaning they could only have but so much dialogue and but so many interactions between personalities that 90% of it just amounts to quips and 1 sentence "banter" between two characters. If they keep adding onto it and keep adding more and more lines, preferably adding more that involve multiple personalities between classes saying things to each other then maybe they can patch things up but right now it just feels like the constraints of game design are leaking though into the game itself and it makes things feel hollow.
Also as somebody else said, the nurgle enemies have absolutely NO personality whatsoever, poxwalkers are just boring zombies and the soldiers just behave exactly like normal guardsmen (which I think is the point because they're clearly making a "look you're both the same haha, isn't that le ironic???" point but still). Bosses are so generic it hurts and even the administration on the mourningstar just feels very uninspired (except Hadron who is the best character in the game by a country mile). Lohner doesn't get enough credit for being an important 6th character in Vermintide.
Elf's horizontal
SHE NEEDS CORRECTION
>VT2 is great
>Darktide is absolute shit
what happened
Same reason fighting games have 'unique' characters is the same reason coop does as well.
With the exception of DRG every other coop that has bad characterization like back for blood or none like Darktide, have no staying power no matter the gameplay. As much as the maps get repetitive in VT games, this can be drowned out by likeable, funny banter of characters that are ironically unlikeable to others for the same reasons.
This affects maps, overall story and setting. Vt1 was a 5 man crew in a besieged city going out at night mostly, while b***hing and bickering, with the real threat of execution by Saltz of the wizard for example and genuine character grievances amongst each other told purely through dialogue.
The combat in Darktide is not bad, a lot of the weapons are DOA like the headhunter autoguns but that is a balancing issue and there have always been shit tier/perma bad weapons in Vermintide. The argument about lack of classes is moot. Vt1 had 0 and just the 5 characters. Vt2 is what happens after you firmly establish your characters and then you can branch into what ifs. Fatshark could have done this during Darktide months from now except instead they went the lazy, copout wanting to have purple haired progressive non white women in the spotlight but were too chicken to pull the trigger and base a whole game around it. So now we have 10 times the voice lines and yet largely nothing interesting or rememberable said.
Darktide was advertised and sold on the idea of a central story and figures and instead has less than release Vt1. Player customisation would have been cool if they simply allowed it for a generic 'shit kicker' option per class while having purpose designed and written official characters. Have the main cast treat theme exactly as they are treated now. Imagine running an Empire merc as well as Kruber but he only has generic lines and responses.
Progression is also dogshit but that *can* be patched.
I agree. Also darktide maps all look the fricking same. It's all industrial catwalks. God I thought that levels were procedurally generated for the first few hours of play.
I'm 90% sure they wanted to do procedural generation until the last 6mth or so of development, explains why they use the same areas on different maps every so often as well.
I'M A BLOODY BATTERING RAM THAT'S WHAT I AM
imagine if we had gotten a AoS game instead Darkshit.
Imagine something even worse? No thanks.
DOA. No one, and I mean literally NO ONE except for trannies plays AoS in all of Sydney, and I have been to most B&M LGS. AoS is dead in the TTG scene outside paid promotion events by GW and has 0 interest from secondaries.
I am close friends with 2 store managers from two large stores (both play private at my house for in house game nights), and every time someone buys an AoS model its to fill out their WHFB army they are reviving or daemons for example for 40k.
literally everybody agress AoS has better balance than 40k cope.
I hate the gameplay in darktide.
There are like 3 people who care enough about AoS to have an opinion on its balance.
AoS models > 40K trash
40k has a problem with pauldrons, everybody other than maybe some of the undead in AoS has the biggest, most moronic hats. Even old characters they’ve brought forward have had their hats been made more moronic. How did they manage to make Archaon’s helmet even fricking sillier?
2bh I don't care about AoS and I'm just here to trigger you homosexuals over AoS. I think however the models do look great. I collect 40k
Yeah, not even the people who post about AoS care about it. This is known.
Ok. They are pretty to look at. Yet no one is buying them enough to support the setting. Not to mention the stigma of purple haired unwashed 'women' who make up most of the public profile of the playerbase.
I am not saying I *want* it to fail. I am saying I could not care less and it is doing it anyway. No matter how much they tidy the rules up and make the game component more fun or how nice the sculpts are there is no one to play with.
Meanwhile I have 8 people I regularly play with at my house or 2 others on rotation, and there is always a 40k game going somewhere publicly. I can get a blood bowl game more often than not than even see anyone doing AoS. I frequent 5 different stores across Sydney, (due to my job requirement) ranging from Randwick to Parramatta, Castle Hill and Northern Sydney collectively encompassing the area of 2.5-3 million people.
AoS is on the shelves and posters and promos exist but are never prominent and no one is ever playing it in stores unless the store itself is lending out test armies to randoms. Even the non LGS, non tournament, common games night hosts running 10+ other game systems rarely mention AoS being played. I have asked a few every now and again out of curiosity and its always the same answer - at best 2 people, though usually one guy will bring models with his other stuff but never have an opponent.
AoS is in dire straits and no bull shot pro painted models will convince me otherwise. Unless the largest city in Australia uniquely hates AoS, though I have heard its dead in Melbourne and Brisbane as well.
If nobody buys AoS why does GW keep shitting out AoS models?
>AoS is in dire straits and no bull shot pro painted models will convince me otherwise. Unless the largest city in Australia uniquely hates AoS, though I have heard its dead in Melbourne and Brisbane as well.
maybe you aussies have shit taste?
>maybe you aussies have shit taste?
There is a very good chance with Vegemite and VB being so popular.
>If nobody buys AoS why does GW keep shitting out AoS models?
I am not in their executive I have no idea. Its not like GW is known for making good business decisions anyway - if we go off the current industry rumour mill GW is actively trying to kill the TTG entirely and just sell 'premium' plastic crack and paints only. We might be living in a reality where all Warhammer armies are in the same position as WHFB is now and relic rule systems or in house rules are all that is left.
Anon I have never heard a more moronic take, As expected from an australian.
yeah nah, get farked carnt.
And worse everything else, which is saying something. Imagine being a worse setting than fricking 40k, which barely exists as something able to be cared about.
I never said anything about balance. It doesn't matter though, no one is playing it or collecting models. Excluding the 2-3 armies like greenskins that can be used in 40k etc. AoS exclusive models are selling as bad as WHFB brettonia circa 2010.
It is why even with nothing to show for it GW kneejerked, and shat out an old world promo because the best selling AoS armies are all WHFB crossovers or dual purpose 40k. AoS came out strong initially sure, but the last 5 years has been dogshit for GW in AoS sales and they are the only setting that saw negative growth during covid. Blood Bowl had a larger gain in models sold globally than AoS.
Of the largest portion of sales of AoS models most are not used in AoS games. AoS is a disaster for GW and they were caught flatfooted. 40k is making up the slack since it exploded over the last 3 years but now that is falling too as the market share normalises and inflation +cost of living is killing a lot of new and potential customers. AoS has the least engagement world wide and literally unless GW pays a LGS to host a tournament its exceedingly rare to find anyone interested in running one. Even then its always tacked on to 40k tournaments as a side thing.
AoS will never get a big budget game because it doesn't know what it wants to be and outside model hobbyists only, it cannot produce new external interest in the setting. Maybe 20 years ago, but now we have more than a decade of generic bright and colourful gacha and mobile game shovel ware that is indistinguishable on a surface level from AoS. GW fricked up.
>inb4 models
t. Not even a WHFB player.
That's a lot of statments there Anon, i'm sure you can back up at least 1 of those claims
lorewise asrai are real c**ts
Not that much, could be way worse. The Wild Hunt can kill lots of humans, but it also destroys beastmen and orcs on a regular basis.
You can be attacked immediately for trespassing into Athel Loren, but there are also stories about them welcoming wanderers into a feast and then guiding them outside (and they then have to deal with several decades having past), as well as suddenly appearing even in the empire to help humans fighting orcs and beastmen.
People will rage against this post
>People
Children aren't people!
you're wrong about the feast
I can't remember the name of the short story but the feast is to fatten up humans to feed to some ancient beast
That could be a different story, but I remember a story or some fluff blurb where a Bretonnian knight stumbles into Athel Loren and is greeted by a wood elf banquet. They let him join their feasts and drinks, and is then guided outside only to realize that several decades have past.
the funny thing about Dawi is that they are fricking insufferable to deal with but are the ones less actively frick you over
they are also the only ones that never used slaves
Dawi are insufferable stubborn fricks that hard to deal with always grumbling and prone to get into a fight to prove his point even if it's not true, but they're also the most trustworthy due to being straightforward and honouring oaths above all else.. i fricking love this comics since elves just tried to deal with skaven or chaos in the mine and dwarf just misunderstood.
He spent five years in jail for killing some high elves traders who didn't have frick all to do with his mine
They may have been related to elfs in the mine, please understand, guy just wants his mine back, maybe kill some elf too while he is at it.
Way too little jail time.
Middenheim has a bias towards Dwarfs, the whole empire does.
the Old World art looks fine, no idea why /tg/ was seething about it
that looks like an age of empires 2 portrait. what's that image for?
For me to fap to
>want to play cataclysm
>it's paywalled
rip i still bought the cool handmaiden cape tho
If VT2 cosmetics weren't so overpriced I would've bought a significant amount of them
>Skins for a character in a first person game cost more than new careers
Which is why I'll never touch any of them
im the guy who commissions Kerillian Fat Art, and yes I have commissioned more that should be done this month
didn't ask + ur gay
cant be gay, Kerillian is a woman
big if true hehe
Very cool anon.
doesnt this image show up as one of the first results on searching up kerillian or something on google?
>"Hah, smells like roses! You call that a poison wind, gas-rat?"
>BBBBBPPPPHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>*ting* *ting* *ting* *ting* *ting* *ting*
>engineer joins game
nope, every one of them is a useless N
I maybe useless and die from 2 hits by skavenslave even with barkskin and a talent for armour, but I love me gun and shooting it.
>Kruber's family dies at Ubersreik
>Kerillian who's the one to guilty for their death MOCKS HIM FOR IT
SIGMAR I HATE ELVES SO MUCH
cute!
Which is why she'll give Kruber a new family. Since they'll only be half-human, she'll have to give twice as many. But waystalkers are sturdy.
she is part tree now, might as well dick the hotter tree, namely Drycha
plus she hates elves
>Just had another slayer jump in to a group of SV's during horde
>They die, leave and the lobby closes since they were the host
Just to reiterate again, I fricking hate dwarf players
>Jumps into lobby during the swarm
>They're the host
Who was in the right?
looks like a regular noob team with sienna using that one staff that kills everything
I'm going to give the benefit of doubt and say that the elf joined mid game and Kruber was probably using something like a mace. Still, taking that much damage with FK tells me he still hasn't grasped blocking or dodging. What difficulty were you on?
Legend.
>that moment when you realize that Bardin is hippiest of hippies of dwarf kind
but the dwarf doesn't kill the elves
he just shoes them away
>Remember, elfs and dwarfs once were close friends
That's only true for Malekith and Snorri. No there is no other close elven and dawi friendship in the entire lore.
And since Snorri is a high king and Malekith, at the time, was one of the most respected and powerful elven princes both dwarfs and elfs were comfortable in alliance with each other. In fact war of the beard/vengeance didn't really picked off at first since both sides were hesitant l
Where's Sienna's DLC Fatshark?
Small indie company please understand. 6 months.
Ive played like 15 hours of VT2 and I despise the elf. Plus the Kerillian players stereotype seems to be very accurate in practice, which means youre constantly hearing her voice lines trigger.
I put up with it about 10 hours and then just started ignoring Kerillian players completely unless I have an opportunity to yank a draught they need or to toss a barrel at them. Reading Elf lore just now didnt help with that.
So, who's Lohner working for? The big T-man?
post it
Ew.
She doesn't give a shit about him.
rate my model of her, Ganker
5.9/10
can you put her a bit further ? I can still make out some details
AoS is not canon and for trannies as well
that's very nice anon but you replied to wrong person
my phone camera is so fricking arse I can never get minis to look good 🙁
Does someone have comic where anime elf captured by night goblins wad "saved" by Belegar?
Is Kerillian's one handed axe useful for anything lol?
crafting neo-veganas
since all elf mains are trannies
It's not that bad if you run temp-on-kill.
Who's the artist?
spaceMAXmarine
beware there is a treasure trove of Talis
W-what are they planning to do to me?
tasty dwarf jerky
>there are anons itt that never experienced the coziness of the Red Moon inn in VR