This is a such a fricking stupid and worthless "dungeon".
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This is a such a fricking stupid and worthless "dungeon".
This is a such a fricking stupid and worthless "dungeon".
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okay maybe it's not a dungeon
yeah that’s why it’s called a path and not a cave
...What's the difference?
a path is straight forward, when you follow a footpath, does it not take you in one direction? AKA forwards and backwards in a line...
A straightforward tunnel with optional side area with unique TM and evolutionary stone. It's also home of few unique Pokemon. Also I think there's spot for secre base somewhere?
Tbh for such a small area it has pretty good content density. It's not empty but it's also not overwhelming.
It's fricking worthless and straightforward. You could have just removed the cave altogether and just have the player get the upper side of the route by climbing over it or something.
But enough about Route 1
>the game should have less variety of settings and terrain.
You are actually moronic. Not every part of a game needs to be mind blowing or fascinating. Having less interesting sections actually increases immersion.
>WOW it's that another generic cave but it has some steam coming out of the floor? WOW SO MUCH HECKING VARIETY!!!
>has unique feature
>generic
You'd think with all the time you've had to seethe in private that you would have something a bit more intelligent.
what benefit does that have over the cave though
But that's not a picture of Ravaged Path or Oreburgh Gate in Sinnoh
oreburgh gate has lowerflooes, moronerino-kun-san
Jfc, I swear you morons are physically unable to stop yourselves from sperging out with your whataboutism and treating everything like a genwar.
It's not really whataboutism for the sake of it when it goes to show how worthless homosexual OP's point is. Personally I don't see how having some straight line caves like that is a bad thing when they are hardly substitutes for real dungeons and serve to add variety, which is rarely undesirable.
>It's not really whataboutism for the sake of it when it goes to show how worthless homosexual OP's point is.
Just because it's a general issue with the franchise doesn't make it any less of an actual issue. That's the equivalent of saying you can't complain about new games being buggy because gen 1 was also broken.
Christ, you're such a pathetic and braindead moron. It's embarrassing that you unironically think you make a good point.
>shitty map design is a staple of the franchise
Same as the above. You're a deluded moron.
you're the only one saying it's an issue, homosexual
And you're the one pretending that op is fanboying for other gens just because he said one thing from gen 3 is bad.
That's one of the reasons why discussion here is so impossible. You say one bad thing about something and you have multitude of morons going "A-ACKSHUALLY OTHER GAMES DID THIS TOO SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS ONE THING LOOK AT THIS OTHER GAME AND HOW SHIT IT IS BY COMPARISON" and the entire discussion devolves into genwarhomosexualry. You can even see it in some of the earlier posts here, as well.
Seriously, you and the other 2 posters from above should go frick yourselves. You're braindead parasites.
nah mate you're the genwar obsessed homosexual if that's where your mind immediately jumps to
OP makes a dumb shit thread, they get dumb shit replies, that's the way it goes
It's not shit. Maybe if you stopped talking to yourself you'd be able to follow what everyone else is saying.
>Just because it's a general issue with the franchise doesn't make it any less of an actual issue. That's the equivalent of saying you can't complain about new games being buggy because gen 1 was also broken.
My point is that it is NOT the issue that you and OP claim it is and that you're overreacting. Just get over yourself, Jesus frick.
>it's been a series staple since the beginning
>reeeee don't genwar stop talking about the series in general unless you're only talking about one game you're genwarring reeeee help me
Not every fricking cave has to be a "dungeon" you drooling moron
>i-it doesn't have to be a good design!
Holy braindead cope, lmao
>i-it doesn't have to be a bad design!
Unholy cerebralcancer arrest, ayy
I disagree, it's a pleasant little change of pace and it's not meant to be that deep. Just a place you go through like a route.
you're not wrong, but it still somehow has more going for it than anything in any of the switch games
This man hasn't found scorched slab and it shows
Always thought Scorched Slab was a kickass name. Wish it had a better TM though.
I know the scorched slab was a place with jap folkclore about a goddess living in a grotto, but the fact there's only Sunny Day, and no pokemon, it feels that place is wasted. May as well not exist.
That's a shame.
Ironically it’s the only place where oras added a dungeon. Postgame, two lower floors open up. There are some trainers, a little Flannery convo, and hoenn cave trash pokemon + heatran via a hoopa ring.
And the Charizardite Y
yeah pokemon does this all the time. your point being?
>your point being?
It's bad.
Gen 1 doing something does not excuse it.
The gimmick of this tunnel are the L29/31 Dugtrios that likely outspeed you and running may fail.
>The gimmick of this tunnel are the L29/31 Dugtrios that likely outspeed you and running may fail.
That was a gimmick?
Gen1 is all about gimmicks because it's the only Gen where GameFreak thought they were designing a JRPG instead of a Pokemon game. You just don't notice because they're not designed in the same way as the "gimmicks" of later gens. Like Ghost types being a single line immune to Normal moves (which was like 95% of the learnsets in Gen1) is Pokemon Towers dungeon gimmick.
It's just a route with an excuse to put some fire and poison mons and have some different scenery
Not everything has to be a maze
I can catch Koffing, Grimer, and Torkoal in there, so you can just go frick yourself.
It needed to be the way to get to the peak but the cable car was something they autistically wanted. Probably also a really of magma having their base there sometime in development, before the story beat was reintroduced in Emerald. The Path got shit on pretty transparently.
I bet op think diglett cave is a fricking dungeon
It has torkoal, one of the best designed mons of all time, in it.
It should be the real entrance to Magma base.
>neat change of pace to have you travel through a cave for part of the way to the next town instead of just going over land
>straight forward but with a nice optional side area I forgot if is accessible on your first visit or not
It's good design.
>I forgot if is accessible
That automatically makes it a shit design, then.
You're right! It should be like that Alola one where you just teleport to the top of the volcano!
Having a few dungeons that are more on the simpler side is fine. As said before, it adds variety and can help with coherent Pokémon distribution. Also, it's not like it's meant to be a big dungeon or every dungeon in the game is like this.
This is only a problem if literally the entire game is a hallway simulator, see: SWSH
It's amazing how this path is way more interesting than Kalos as a whole.
>has 4 unique pokemon
>has multiple useful items
>doesn't waste your time with half a dozen HMs
This area is better designed than every map in Sinnoh.
>made a short little dungeon with four exclusive pokemon and a distinct aesthetic complete with some extra goodies to backtrack for once the player gets strength, when they could have just had a cave entrance and a cave exit and called it a day
>this is apparently a bad thing
people have really ran out of things to complain about here, huh
This might not be the thread for this, but what was the point of this boulder in the bottom floor of the slowpoke well? Is there another instance in the games where you're allowed to move a boulder while surfing?
Pretty sure that was just an oversight on Game Freak's part
The reason you are so upset and confused by it is because it is a liminal space.
Bump