Unironically, tell me what you think is the wrong way to have fun in tabletop games?

Unironically, tell me what you think is the wrong way to have fun in tabletop games?
>the DM makes it so there is no way for the party to lose in combat and it's just players shitting on enemies on a power trip

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >One player is way more super cereal about an aspect of the game than everyone else, and they are forced to either spend more time and effort than they'd like or else listen to the lone sperg bitch out all session.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think this is wrong if everybody is having fun. Though I'd ask the GM for a challenge or I'd bounce out of boredom.

      This is coming from a GURPS-bro because the umbrella is too large. We determine what we are doing in the most specific way possible so that there are no problems with that. For example, I'm currently playing on a Dungeon Fantasy campaign, which is high fantasy cinematic with psy squids and walking suits of armor with a tint of survivalism here and there.

      But the GM has anounced that our next one will be a gritty noir investigation game with no supernatural and realistic power levels.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >But the GM has anounced that our next one will be a gritty noir investigation game with no supernatural and realistic power levels.
        I don't thiink serious games are bad. It's more
        >One guy is really spergy about rules, now everyone has to match his intense autism like it or not
        >One guy is really into melodrama, now every scene has to have a rain-slicked precipice for him to soliloquise on
        >One guy is superautistic about locks, now anyone who wants to play a rogue has to understand fifty different bypass attacks
        Generally, when one sperg can't let their friends be themselves.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's just a "that guy" problem. A stern talk and have him shut his trap or kick him. We tried the former with our last retard and then the latter. That being said, I'm the rule autist of the game and I just use it to help the GM by DMing him rule tables whenever something comes up. The guy we kicked was the "wrong" kind of rule sperg, where he was convinced everything written in the GURPS books were wrong because he didn't like them. At one point I sat him down and did a Google search on GURPS's writers for the things he was complaining about to show that he was really out of depth. For example, in one of his complaints, he said the bows stats were wrong. Now there's a Pyramid article that specifies how bow-making works in real life, written by an engineer, and how things such as material, age and technique used affect the data. The beauty of playing GURPS is that the no one is spergier than the devs. Fair notice, there are also fairly detailed material on locks.
          https://gurps.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deadly_Spring
          >Douglas [H. Cole] has earned two doctorates: a real one from Northwestern University in materials science and engineering.

          >melodrama
          When I played a bard, I got into his skin so hard, I'd journal about his adventures and how he felt about it. It surely helped that I can put numbers to the level of sperginess of my character. I think I still have them saved on my old laptop.

          Just tell the guy that his solilloquy is meta and breaking the game and character. That outta help him keep it quiet.

          >I don't thiink serious games are bad.
          Me neither! I'm hyped as fuck!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You should link the remainder of the paragraph.

            >and a cool one in GURPS Ballistics from Illuminati Online University. He currently manages the clean room development for a major HDD company.

            Doug is so unbelievably cringe he'll claim a second legally protected title from "my coworkers at SJG bro lol"

            Much like Sean "Doctor Kromm" Punch, who is *also* not a doctor.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How's any of that relevant to the point? Not that I disagree, I even said that GURPS's writers are spergier.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't mean they aren't stupid, since the same article gives different statistics for bows (and especially crossbows) than the ones in low-tech or basic.

                TLDR: Your friend was right, and you're lying to people on the internet that he was not.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Your friend was right, and you're lying to people on the internet that he was not.
                "Because the author is cringe, he is stupid."Sound logic. You don't even know what the guy's arguments were. What if he said he had the right to use swing for bow damage? Dumbass.

                >since the same article gives different statistics for bows (and especially crossbows) than the ones in low-tech or basic.
                Don't know about low-tech, but BS archers don't have methods of production or material used described, so HOW could they even BE wrong?

                Don't (You) me back. I'm talking to someone who's calling me a liar.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Furthermore, and I'll add to this, it doesn't matter if he's a materials engineer, because he's converting kinetic energy to "damage points", and as someone in the medical field, I can tell you no such thing exists.

                In his ballistics article, he credits Dr. Martin Fackler's article on terminal ballistics, which directly contradicts his math as Fackler dispels the myth of kinetic energy dump to tissue damage by secondary cavity.

                This is why GURPS gun damage is so abs-fucking-disastrously high as to be unplayable. Gun damage is based on penetration of millimeters of rolled homogenous armor at no deflection at the muzzle, with damage falloff at half projectile velocity range (well beyond the optimal range of firearms, so all damage even at open field infantry ranges are full damage.)

                Not to mention treating people as 400 brinell steel plates for injury definition purposes. It's laughable, and it's the result of a materials engineer being so fucking autistic he can't make a working damage system.

                So on that topic, you *are* correct. They're autistic to a detriment.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And if you'll indulge my own autism just for an example of how disastrously out of touch damage values for guns are, just put this together.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >lock autism
          I cannot stand those guys who have to flaunt their knowledge and insist on hard factual details to the GM. I don't mean for their own thing--if a pike autist wants to lavishly detail his own pike, that's fine. I mean that guy who will interject with random ass information about whatever is going on and starting arguments with other people who aren't trying to be detailed or perfectly reflective of reality. Especially when that guy's understanding is often COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG and most likely something he read off Reddit and took as gospel. The absolute worst was the time he tried to correct the GM on how magic worked, in a setting made by someone else that he had no deep understanding of whatsoever yet postured himself as an expert anyway.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's a lot of the kind people who are eager to prove how intelligent they are. They do not like thinking though so they rely on other people's conclusions to do the thinking for them. They do not care about knowledge or study but the status gained from it, so they steal from others instead.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shitposting and not playing them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Also /thread.

      As long as you're having fun you're doing it right.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >one autist is having fun and disrupting the entire session
        So you support this? As long as he's having fun, he's doing it right, after all.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he's doing it right, after all.
          Yes, he is.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, as long as you're consistent with your retardation.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When only one person at the table has fun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      The wrong way to have fun is fucking up the game for other people on purpose.
      Ultimately, I don't care what you do at the table so long as it works with what everyone else is doing.

      That said, what truly gets me is rules lawyering, getting mad when the GM makes a ruling they make clear is intended to be revisited because you're turning it from a disagreement into an argument, agreeing to drop it until the end of the session, muttering about it every turn but not quite arguing, and then disappearing at the end of the session and never showing up between sessions to sort it out then bringing it up again mid-session - not even in messages or texts or emails or anything. Back up your point of view with screenshots from the rulebook I know you have, you motherfucker.
      It turns the minor disagreement into a needlessly protracted multiweek argument. Even if you were right I'd rather you just leave after two sessions of this. I can forgive one, sometimes people just have a bad day, but you had a week to discuss it inbetween.
      Plenty of people will happily discuss a rule with you between sessions and maybe even change a previous ruling that was made primarily to keep the game moving but if you agree to drop something you can either drop it or fuck off to here and bitch about your GM being That Guy to the court of public assholery.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The wrong way to have fun is fucking up the game for other people on purpose.
        I have had multiple people go out of their way to cause or try to cause PC deaths or even TPK's then play dumb when everyone is telling them to fuck off.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never understood people like this.
          "I will try to piss off a bunch of people who do dangerous shit - who I actually depend on to do dangerous shit reasonably well, in fact - and are roughly on par with me in their abilities. That makes me super outnumbered and if they turn on me I'll fucking die. However I just like to fuck with people."
          Idiots.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's makes no sense in terms of RP nor is it some actual attempt at roleplaying. These people rely entirely on the notion that other players won't turn on them and that the GM won't do anything.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              While you are correct the fact that these people are relying on "people deliberately accommodating those who dick them over" should be enough for anybody with even the slightest amount of common sense.
              Literally even the tiniest bit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Had that happen to me. That guy tried to kill the entire party, we managed to survive and he didn't even notice, then when I said I was quitting the game over it he called me a pussy. We pretty much had to bully him into apologizing and it was one of those really bitchy passive-aggressive ones. I don't know how he had trouble grasping the fact that trying to kill the party is going to piss them off.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    one player magical realming but vehemently denying that's what he's doing

    i speak from experience and i was the GM for 2 out of the 3 games where that happened

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not necessarily wrong per se if you're with people who like that kind of thing but I absolutely detest wacky hijinks for wacky hijinks sake and the 'it's basically the modern world but with swords and shit' style of fantasy.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Serious games. They don't work in real life. The only serious game I've ever had was via online text.

    I always cringe when a player is trying too hard to be serious or a GM tries their hand at a serious game. It just never ever works.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Serious games. They don't work in real life.
      They can, you just need everyone to be on board. All it takes is one chuckefuck to ruin the mood. From your post, it sounds like that's you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No they don't work. You're playing a game in your offtime. You have access to food and drink. That alone causes games to dip into silliness and merryment. Add to it that NONE of you are actors, NONE of you are actually these characters, and there is always a sense of separation between yourself and the character (and their abilities) and you will necessarily step into clowniness. I've never seen a real life serious game not peter out into silliness, it just doesn't fucking work and you need to realize that it doesn't. Fuck even RPG videogames can barely manage to keep a serious tone and all the best ones are pretty fucking whacky.

        The only time I've seen good serious play is through online text games since you can think about and consider what your character would ACTUALLY do and the GM has plenty of time to think about all the actions and words of his various NPCs as well. Even then, it tends to get silly at some point.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not to mention you typically are playing with friends and you're getting together for your once a week game, you want to have fun and talk about real life here and there during the game too. It's just that serious games don't work in that atmosphere.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have a shit group and should close your mouth.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bullshit, you've never played a serious game in your life.

            i've had scenes with my group in person where the role playing was so good I literally got goosebumps at the shit my players said

            make some better friends, get a better group.

            I'll believe it exists when I see it and I've never seen it.

            I hate to say this but it sounds like you just play with shit people. I managed to get one serious game off in Mutant year zero.

            Yeah, I play with my friends. I suppose you might be able to create these tones with strangers who you only interact with to game, but I'm not going to spend 4-6 hours a week of my offtime on strangers.

            If you're friends with them, you will not maintain anything serious. It's just not going to happen. You're around your friends and will naturally joke and be jovial.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Again, you're not just around your friends. You're around your friends in a safe and warm location with food and drink readily available.

              You are going to joke. Even if you were doing something else like watching a movie, you're going to joke and make fun of it while watching.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hate to say this but it sounds like you just play with shit people. I managed to get one serious game off in Mutant year zero.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i've had scenes with my group in person where the role playing was so good I literally got goosebumps at the shit my players said

          make some better friends, get a better group.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They hated him for speaking the truth

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It works, you are just not autistic enough to not cringe at serious games. They are not common but I managed to find a group of like-minded people

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The right way to have fun is to do something you enjoy and recognize others enjoy things differently without have a stick up your ass. I think spergs have this assumption that they have the most logical mind, so when they have fun with something one way but not another, they immediately conclude their way is correct and will make up some bullshit why the other is wrong.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because you are not playing a game, you are just jerking each other off and then you take that mentality to other tables and get mad when people shut you down.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being a lolsorandumb retard that ruins the game for the rest of the group. Once had someone tell me he was proud of throwing a lit powder keg in the middle of his party for no reason whatsoever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He should be booted, it makes no sense in terms of RP or otherwise.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no wrong way to have fun in tabletop games so long as every is on the same page and having a good time. There are things I don't enjoy and/or wouldn't be acceptable in my group, it doesn't mean it can't work for others.

    I agree your scenario isn't good, but because for me it wouldn't be fun. You can tell when the GM is trying to keep characters from dying.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is gonna be a cliched answer from me, but imo a relevant one nonetheless:
    The only wrong way to have fun is making others not have fun in the process.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When the "fun" doesn't involve the game (like roleplaying in a game whose rules don't support it), and when the "fun" interrupts the game (like meta bullshit that sidelines everyone and wastes precious time).
    Both of these things were how I coped with playing D&D. The game was so bad.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What irritates me is when "fun" is used as an excuse for every game to be the same rules lite, zany kitchen sink with no book keeping or seriousness. It's no skin off my back if you want to play that game with others, but if I establish from the outset that I'm interested in running a fairly dark campaign, or at least something with consistent rules and atmosphere, and you're just regurgitating stoner comedy and complaining that the system doesn't work like D&D 5e, please leave. I don't like romance. I don't like systems where the race and equipment list has covers every genre. I like a little bit of comic relief but not too much. But I feel like desperate players will just latch onto your campaign because they can't find a spot anywhere else, and then whine that it's not a generic fantasy experience they could have at any other table. Bonus if you're a hang-on who never reads the rules so I have to explain everything to you mid game.

    It just gets me down.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Teehee Maccaroni is the bane of my fucking existence.

    Every fucking campaign that my GM runs inevitably at some point involves running into an NPC named "Teehee Maccaroni," who the GM affectionately describes as "an epic level sorcerer who's also a retarded nudist gnome."

    Teehee Maccaroni wander the countryside with a unique Rod of Wonders powered by "retard magic" shoved up his anus, and he casts the Rod of Wonders by diddling his penis. He says nothing but his own name in different inflections and the phrase "I like-a the goodberry, gimme gimme the goodberry." The GM thinks it's hilarious to have this character show up during the middle of encounters we're struggling at and start jerking off magic everywhere.

    But the worst part is his chant. He wanders around chanting his name, so when he's about to show up the GM will start low;
    >Tee-hee-hee, Maccaroni Maccaroni
    >Tee-hee-hee, Maccaroni Maccaroni
    And then get louder and louder until he's fucking shouting
    >TEE HEE HEE, MACCARONI MACCARONI!
    >TEE HEE HEE, MACCARONI MACCARONI!

    And the table loves it! The other guys I play with think this is the best shit! Teehee Maccaroni has been our table's de-facto inside joke, our signature "running gag" for six years now. When that chant starts up, everyone else joins in like a ritual; the whole table is expected to start chanting "TEE HEE HEE, MACCARONI MACCARONI" by the end, and every fucking time I refuse because this is some embarrassing circa-2002 Penguin of Doom shit, it's always the same thing; "There goes Anon again! No fun allowed around Anon! Anon's just a big grouch who's getting angry because we're making him touch Teehee Maccaroni's penis again! Why won't you just let us have fun with this character, he's just here for dumb fun, you stick-in-the mud!"

    These motherfuckers are all over 25 years old.

    Teehee Maccaroni is going to be the death of me.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Send DM my character for a M&M 3(?) game
    >Two abilities are a little iffy(to make it short, first my "super speedster"[but not really] can automatically dodge any projectile attack he can see coming, second he can "attack from different angles" by "super speeding" behind an enemy, throwing an attack, then "speeding" back to his starting point by the time the attack starts moving), so me and the DM hash out exactly how it works before play even starts
    >Takes about an hour but I'm happy with how it turned out and the DM seems to have no complaints
    >Game starts, first combat
    >We get into a fight with some police, I do my "throw something from behind them move"
    >Game grinds to an immediate halt because the GM suddenly starts bitching about how I don't have enough movement to do it, or any kind of "run-by" modifier so I can't do it while moving
    >Ignores that we hashed this out the week before and my way of doing it was just flavor
    >Game stalls for a while because now I have to remove that ability and do something else now because the GM refuses to budge on it
    >Ok, I replace it and just punch the cop in the face and put some distance between us.
    >Cop shoots back at me, I dodge with no roll since I could see the bullet coming
    >And game grinds to a halt again because now my dodge power is insanely bullshit overpowered because "nothing can possibly threaten me anymore"
    I wouldn't have even cared if he brought any of this up the entire fucking week we had between hashing them out and game time.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Playing with dirty 4chanacks or perma/v/irgins.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Face rolling weak mobs to show off "trick shots" of the "op" build you got off a youtube video while attempting Spiderman quips as a high functioning autist.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    fun is fun

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No combat
    All combat
    "You can't do that" DMing
    ""Sure, why not?" DMing

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