>western devs try to make an iconic female character. >constantly shilled to be a new gaming mascot

>western devs try to make an iconic female character
>constantly shilled to be a new gaming mascot
>completely forgotten with no fans
>Jap devs make a female protag with 0 personality
>also make her sexy
>becomes gaming icon with millions of fans worldwide
when will they learn?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's not about the money

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This
      Sales aren't the goal of these companies, listening to their stockholders asking for more woke shit is

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn deadliest threat they must be pretty capable guys. You’d think society wouldn’t want to disenfranchise them but here we are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally all lefties

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does every extremist look like a deform goblin, it doesn't matter which side they pick.

      • 2 months ago
        Astromeda

        Extremists have only ugly thoughts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Dahl
          I love it. SJWs are now quoting nazi sympathizers.

          • 2 months ago
            Astromeda

            Who said i was a SJW? Also, Dahl was a nazi sympathizer, why never got that memo?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Who said i was a SJW?
              I'm talking about the retards that made that image, not you.
              >Also, Dahl was a nazi sympathizer, why never got that memo?
              Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why do americans look like americans?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek seeing a lot of seeting chuds lately, did a chud kill himself lately?
      Maybe he is just sneeding at beauty

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh white terrorism

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >when will they learn?
    30 years ago, before millennials were the one making games and shoving down diversity everywhere

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they are both shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad the world still has someone with some common sense.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modernity

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In some games, it makes sense to play as a black female. Dishonored: DOTD you play as a based black woman who is from the ghetto and a criminal, its quite fitting if you ask me.
      When it comes to Pathfinder: WotR I was insta-filtered because they shoved a black female paladin in my face. That is NOT fitting.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >in some games, it makes sense to play as a black female

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          just admit that you're racist

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anti-racism is racist.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But our 99% white gaming demographic just love blacks

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Waaah! Why are these stupid bigshots failing to understand the importance of a black woman on the cover of A VIDEOGAME"
              McCormack is a fucking retard. I genuinely hate SJWs with a burning passion.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Dishonored: DOTD
        Why the fuck would you use this garbage as an example, not only no one liked that bitch, but it's well known that the 2nd game flopped, and that DLC was god awful.

        >you play as a based black woman who is from the ghetto and a criminal
        Dishonored wasn't about morons from the ghetto, it was about being a legendary assassin.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sorry state

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >with 0 personality
    Not only that... they got one of the worst american VA's to voice her.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jennifer Hale?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sex sells. And I'm not talking character having sex. Sexy characters sell.
    God knows people actively vomited to that TLoU2 sex scene.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sex doesn't actually sell

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody would have given a fuck about automata if 2B wasn't a bombshell.
        More people would have bought Returnal if the MC wasn't an old hag. These are facts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          most people didn't buy automata because of 2b

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a big fat fucking lie and you know it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guarantee you most sales came from 2B being hot.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure as fuck wasn't from the copious amounts of reviews who checked out after the first ending with 2B.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then why was papa Nier so popular?
          Oh wait, you're an idiot.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He isn't? Yoko Taro Went on record saying Nier was basically a flop and it's a miracle that Squenix even let him make Automata.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There’s an entire industry that proves otherwise.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Thread #1029228 of Ganker complaing that women in games are not reduced to "empowered" titty bimbos for basement dwellers to drool over anymore

    Its all so tiresome

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Instead they are the exact same Butch dyke with no personality. Or the exact same Black power 70's Afro having she boon voiced and face modeled by the same damn black woman.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh be quiet. You dont care about the characterization of women in games, you only care if they you and your fellow gamers a boner or not. Thats why you and your ilk are mad, because you guys dont want actual women, you want sex dolls.

        2B does have a personality though, retard

        >"her ass is a part of her personality, you stupid liberal!"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I care about personality in my characters more than their looks. It's not my fault the western devs all have the exact same 2 stereotypes for woman. Japanese devs make their characters sexy as an extra precaution to facilitate their personalities. To differentiate themselves from every other Japanese devs attractive characters.
          One of the biggest reason I don't like Gay or Trans characters in games is because they are Gay/trans first, second, third, forth, and a person with a personality 10th.
          Good writing goes a long way. and a good looking character tends to blur the inadequacies of the character so they seem better to you.

          It's like how a ton of people love Yukiko from Persona 4. But if she wasn't attractive everyone would fucking hate her because she is a indecisive woman who led you by the nose only to settle for the thing she was running from the entire damn time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You wouldn't intentionally make your character ugly unless you were pushing some Marxists agenda.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >2B’s deliberate attempt to be distant towards 9S, and others
          >She tries not to get attached because she knows she’ll have to kill him again
          >Literally all her teammates die in front of her in the beginning of the game
          >2B quietly calling him “nines”
          >2B trying to avoid explaining sex when that one machine girl asks, because she’s clearly embarrassed about it
          >2B having to kill 9S and breaking down in tears because she really does care about him
          >No personality
          Dipshit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        She was decent looking for a black chick back when she was young.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't finish Automata if you think that applies to 2B

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOOO! IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!
        >YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME!!!
        >STOP CONTRADICTING ME!!!
        >EVERYONE IS WRONG BUT ME!!!
        >I MUST COOOOOM!!!!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your deflection proves me right
          Go on, watching ending e on youtube real quick so you can pretend you finished it and know what you're talking about

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >2B’s deliberate attempt to be distant towards 9S, and others
        >She tries not to get attached because she knows she’ll have to kill him again
        >Literally all her teammates die in front of her in the beginning of the game
        >2B quietly calling him “nines”
        >2B trying to avoid explaining sex when that one machine girl asks, because she’s clearly embarrassed about it
        >2B having to kill 9S and breaking down in tears because she really does care about him
        >No personality
        Dipshit

        If 2bs "'character" is so deep and complex, then why do all internet discussions or any discussion of her at all always revolve around her ass? Geez, That might really indicate something.....

        I care about personality in my characters more than their looks. It's not my fault the western devs all have the exact same 2 stereotypes for woman. Japanese devs make their characters sexy as an extra precaution to facilitate their personalities. To differentiate themselves from every other Japanese devs attractive characters.
        One of the biggest reason I don't like Gay or Trans characters in games is because they are Gay/trans first, second, third, forth, and a person with a personality 10th.
        Good writing goes a long way. and a good looking character tends to blur the inadequacies of the character so they seem better to you.

        It's like how a ton of people love Yukiko from Persona 4. But if she wasn't attractive everyone would fucking hate her because she is a indecisive woman who led you by the nose only to settle for the thing she was running from the entire damn time.

        >Japanese devs make their characters sexy as an extra precaution to facilitate their personalities. To differentiate themselves from every other Japanese devs attractive characters.

        Lol lmao. I guess Ivy valeninte, mai shrinaui, and baiken have so much "depth" to them, right? This just seems like a massive amount of copium to justify jerking off to your waifu.

        >"You see, my waifu isnt a sex object because she has a reaallly sad backstory brooo! Shes so empowered by having her ass out all game man!".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >fighting game characters.
          cool picking out a genre where story and personality doesn't matter.
          You can have a stick figure with lipstick on it and be completely silent and the FGC will swear by it if it plays well.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cool picking out a genre where story and personality doesn't matter.

            They dont seem to matter in the majority of #BasedNippon games either. Western games grew up beyond gratitious objectification and shock value, while Japanese games still cater to 12 year olds and mentally 12 year old horny gamers (like (you).

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Western games grew up beyond gratitious objectification and shock value,
              lmao no they didn't, name them go on

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Western games grew up
              hahahaha aaahhh~. no they didn't.
              Instead they objectify minorities, Gays, and Trans people. Using them as a check list for inclusion in video games and diversity hires. Existing in game sole to so show inclusion. Completely and utterly ignoring any reason why they would or wouldn't work in their settings.
              Like the Gay wizard in Dragon age inquisition. Who's entire story is he's gay and his parents don't like it. Or Andromeda's "I'm trans" character that you talk to. Just blurts out that they are trans when you didn't ask and the topic at hand had 0 inclination for such information.

              Western games didn't grow up. They shifted focus and now use other demographics and people as tools instead of making woman physically attractive is cosmetic work. Making a woman personality attractive is actual work.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Western games grew up
              lol
              lmao
              top kek
              Reminder a "mature" western dev got filtered by a basic wall puzzle in Metroid Dread and had a total meltdown over getting filtered by basic game design.
              Also reminder that a game journalist unironically called a game featuring a talking yellow sponge "too difficult and unforgiving"
              If you struggle with games made for children you aren't mature in the slightest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Im talking about the story telling and how western games dont degrade women to pander to a horny teenage audience anymore, idiot.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Story telling
                Is that what we call stealing plot points from some random Hollywood movie or TV show and adding MCU quips now?
                >don't degrade women
                Well yeah, can't have people know you're stealing a pregnant woman's breast milk or sexually assaulting them IRL now can you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because morons are loud.
          Look at twitter. Breeding ground for stupidity with the loud and dumb at the helm.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    2B does have a personality though, retard

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    forgotten with no fans
    >IT DOESN'T COUNT
    >I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
    >IM A GROWN UP LOOK AT ME
    >I GET TRIGGERED BECAUSE I DON'T FIND WESTERN CHARACTERS FUCKABLE
    >WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE BUT ME
    >BTW IT DOESN'T COUNT
    Aloy looks fine and you're a gay.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>I GET TRIGGERED BECAUSE I DON'T FIND WESTERN CHARACTERS FUCKABLE

      Pretty much describes these people to a T.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>I GET TRIGGERED BECAUSE I DON'T FIND WESTERN CHARACTERS FUCKABLE

      Pretty much describes these people to a T.

      They wrote with a horrible attitude. Like some some dude tells her something, and she acts like an asshole them for no reason to go one some woke diatribe.

      That said, Eloy and her voice actress are quite fuckable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They wrote with a horrible attitude. Like some some dude tells her something, and she acts like an asshole them for no reason to go one some woke diatribe.
        >Game gives you the option between a friendly, factual, or abrasive response.
        >Wow, She acts like an asshole.
        Maybe don't pick the asshole dialogue choices, Jesus fuck.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    2b has plenty of personality. It just isn't in your face "strong womyn" like western characters.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japs mastered the talent of having the penis and the upper brain be of one mind. In short, this results in better games that coincidentally happen to have fanservice. The few female artists they hire are either fashion autists or think with their pussies so their output is relatively equal.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Horizon Zero Dawn
    20m copies sold
    >Nier Automata
    5.5m copies sold

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Proof that people want mature and well-thought out stories, not sexist coombait garbage

      >Western games grew up
      hahahaha aaahhh~. no they didn't.
      Instead they objectify minorities, Gays, and Trans people. Using them as a check list for inclusion in video games and diversity hires. Existing in game sole to so show inclusion. Completely and utterly ignoring any reason why they would or wouldn't work in their settings.
      Like the Gay wizard in Dragon age inquisition. Who's entire story is he's gay and his parents don't like it. Or Andromeda's "I'm trans" character that you talk to. Just blurts out that they are trans when you didn't ask and the topic at hand had 0 inclination for such information.

      Western games didn't grow up. They shifted focus and now use other demographics and people as tools instead of making woman physically attractive is cosmetic work. Making a woman personality attractive is actual work.

      You dont know what objectification is, do you?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Proof that people want mature and well-thought out stories
        >Is.... is that a children's video game? SAVE ME MATUREMAN I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS DIFFICULT GAME IT'S TOO MUCH FOR ME

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You dont know what objectification is, do you?
        degrading someone to that of an object. Which is exactly what the western studios do with minorities and the LGBTQ+. They are now a tool to be used to push units for said demographics. They are never written well and solely exist as a tool to market something to them. They are objectified.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Objectification in feminist theory is when a female character in media is sexualized and shown as an object of desire and lust for men.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Making up your own definition doesn't mean it's the actual definition anon.
            Trap's aren't a derogatory term for Trans people. No matter how much they try to twist the words meaning. They are Males in drag who can pass as woman.
            Not Males Deluding themselves thinking they are woman because they are closet gays.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Objectification in feminist theory is when a female character in media is sexualized and shown as an object of desire and lust for men
            Since Anon's here don't understand your made up theories allow me to translate it for the normal people here.
            >Objectification is when a fat cunt gets super jealous over a fictional character being more appealing than her because she's retarded(see. a woman) and compares herself to things that aren't real and then loses to this fictional character in terms of appeal to men. Also she hates seeing men be happy.
            Any further questions on this bizzare theory can be directed here where I'll answer your questions to the best of my ability.
            My translation from retard to normal may have some issues here and there but has an accuracy of 99%. So please don't hesitate to ask.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Disregarding a well known and analyzed theory because it makes your pp throw a tantrum.

              Rather have a character with chance at depth be hot rather than a character be ugly as shit with a chance at depth.
              Unfortunately. The ugly characters tend to never have such depth.

              Funny, because most "empowered" fighting fuckdolls dont seem to have much depth either.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a well known and analyzed theory
                Women whining about someone being sexier or cuter than them and trying to cut that person down is far more well known and a proven fact

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Funny, because most "empowered" fighting fuckdolls dont seem to have much depth either.
                and if that turns out to be true. People can still enjoy the characters appearence.
                When on the other hand the ugly as shit character turns out to have the personality of a brick and a body to match. You just forget the character exists and game sufferers for it.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like these threads because the discussion always turn into very reductive shit flinging.

    Most people don't actually care about 2B, they just think she's great fap material and this is where a lot of her fanbase comes from, the type of people who want to turn "horny on main" into a personality. The rest are the minority who've actually played Nier and even among them you'll find that most don't consider 2B their favourite Automata character.

    As with Aloy, she's in those spots where she's well known, even to people who don't play games much even if they don't know her name, but nobody is crazy over her outside of one based waifufag. Like Modern Simpsons. A lot of it is due to the general aesthetic and tone of Horizon being very generic modern movie like. People remember and care about Last of Us despite also being movie like because it's a dark and emotional story, Horizon doesn't really have any highs or lows worth remembering and that's why there's little fanfare for Aloy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rather have a character with chance at depth be hot rather than a character be ugly as shit with a chance at depth.
      Unfortunately. The ugly characters tend to never have such depth.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Rather have a character with chance at depth be hot rather than a character be ugly as shit with a chance at depth.
        One of the reasons characters gain fanbases is because of their design, there are plenty of cases were some background character gets a lot of fanart and shit purely because of how they look or sound.

        >Unfortunately. The ugly characters tend to never have such depth.
        Depends on what you mean by depth, sometimes it more of a case where you just don't like the writing or it just doesn't appeal to you rather than being a case of lack of depth.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rebecca looks like visual diarrhea. But she's a great character.
          While Lucy is just the mysterious smart girl with shady past but generally attractive. Guess who has more porn.
          That's right. The Piccolo Dick Child.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anons described 2B's character and actions
    >Not one lefty gay even tries to describe Alloys non existent personality
    I think it's clear who is the female character with actual depth, being pretty doesn't detract from her personality, that is an ugly girl cope

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The most annoying things about Aloy are she never ever shuts up and insists she is right 100% of the time and regardless of whether she technically is or isn’t, the game will not ever permit her to be chewed out for being annoying
    The other worst thing about her is Ashley Burch voices her and 2 other identical versions of her and all 3 Ashley’s even have fucking conversations with each other, it’s so retarded and makes her annoying grating voice even worse and guess what else
    None of the 3 Ashleys is ever wrong in any way or in any context in universe so it’s 3 insufferable loud talking women being right about everything
    What a great fucking time it is to play

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the biggest crime a woman real or vidya can commit is being ugly. attractive women can get away with anything while ugly women will be hated no matter what they do.

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