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If you're not critting, you're not winning
Its pretty fun.
Top tier music. Fun art style. Had some legitimately funny bits. DUSA!
Just remember its a game where you're supposed to die, and every time you go back to the start chat with people, explore the area, and try again.
Experiment with the boons and combinations.
Early on poseidon's boons are going to be a help on your dash or secondary since it will buy you some breathing room.
For me its doom procs and whirling blades.
artemis my beloved
A pretty mediocre rogue-lite
>Hestia Gun
>Artemis Boons
Not for any synergy, just because they're the two best Greek Goddesses
>Hestia, Goddess of Hearth and Home
>Nicest of the Olympians
>Who even gave up her seat for Bacchus
>Her weapon is a gun
What did they mean by this?
Gotta defend your home, Anon.
She blessed cities that looked after their people and cared for their citizens, can't do that if you can't defend yourself. She's the oldest and the youngest, the first and the last, she understands that kinda thing
>not using aspect of eris to danger close your way to victory
based Artemis bro. Artemis + Demeter is the best combo in the game.
A pretty solid game that loses its replay value once you've completed a few successful runs because the environment variety and enemy variety aren't that good.
At that point, only proceed if you're still having a lot of fun or if you give a shit about the characters or dialogue.
this
the game is pretty great until you beat it a few times
You should play it at least until you've beaten EM4. The EM fights are so much fun, and adding Heat adds so much enjoyable dynamism that it keeps the game fresh, imo.
Playing for the True Ending is moronic though, I was absolutely over it by the time I finally got it, and it was not worth it in the least. You can clearly see where they padded it because EA users would have had all that stuff already unlocked
Honestly the best thing I played last year. I played it on a whim when it was on game pass not thinking much of it but it ended up consuming my life for about a month.
Fun gameplay, interesting characters, good progression system, overall a fantastic videogame. Enjoy the ride.
Non-gamer skitzo culturewar cretins on Ganker occasionally whine about this game and make up absolutely deranged nonsense which is instantly recognizable as idiotic and false but we all know their modus operandi and tactics by now so they well and truly don't matter.
you tried too hard and outted yourself. Have a pity (you)
Some of the worst artificial padding I have ever seen in a roguelike.
Okay combat, boring story.
>Roguelike
Even fricking Ganker gays don't know what a damn Roguelike is.
Personally I call these games "Guacameleelikes" because you play as a dude and you attack enemies and avoid getting hit.
Not sure why this term hasn't caught on, it makes the same amount of sense as """roguelike"""
roguelikes mean you have procedural generation and permadeath. it's not 1984 anymore, nobody cares about fricking nethack
Yeah, PERMADETH, just like how in Hades when you die it's GAME OVER and you have to create a new hardcore PC and you lose your items and
what, you don't destroy your pc when you get eaten by a grue in nethack?
>Rougelike means procedural generation and permadeath.
Only one of those is true and it isn't permadeath. Roguelikes also need to be turn based and have grid based movement.
aw shit here comes the boomer brigade
I'm a zoomer btw. I just play old as shit games.
>roguelikes mean you have procedural generation and permadeath
Wrong.
Because saying roguelike at this point feels extremely disconnected from Rogue. Most people don't even know Rogue refers to a game. Guacameleelike stands out and sounds moronic. I strongly like the term roguelite to describe the post-isaac games but people shit on that term a lot for some reason.
>people shit on that term a lot for some reason
Because it's a word that comes from playing telephone too long.
>wow this game is like rogue
>this game is rogue-like
>roguelike is a game genre
>wtf this game isn't like rogue at all
>it's a roguelite
can't wait till people start calling shit soulslite in fricking 2 months or whatever
I get it but if we're gonna accept roguelike, roguelite is an extremely useful distinction. I'd rather genre names not reference games at all of course.
Don't accept none of it, games that copy each other are unoriginal and no one remembers them. Nobody remembers the hundreds of Doom clones that came out in the 90s or the hundreds of CoD clones that came out in the 2000s. They don't call those Doomlikes or CoDlikes, they don't call them anything at all.
ironically, people are complaining because roguelikes stopped copying rogue a little too hard
That's the problem that comes with Theseus' shipping a game formula for 4 decades. You don't see this problem with immersive sim genre games because they didn't call themselves System Shock-likes or Deus Ex-likes.
That's moronic, most genre names make absolutely no sense and serve only as shibboleths.
What the frick is a Shmup? What's the difference between a Strategy RPG and a Tactical RPG? What's an RPG anyway? Let's add CRPG, JRPG and WRPG into that discussion. How about Blobber? What about MOBA or Character Action Game? What makes a Grand Strategy game so Grand? A 4X game, is it related to the beer?
Etc etc etc
>What the frick is a Shmup?
It's a portmanteau of Shoot Em' Up
>What's the difference between a Strategy RPG and a Tactical RPG?
I don't know, I've never heard those terms before.
>What's an RPG anyway?
A Role-Playing Game.
>Let's add CRPG, JRPG and WRPG into that discussion.
JRPG is Japanese Role-Playing Game. WRPG is Western Role-Playing Game. I'd assume CRPG is Chinese.
>How about Blobber?
I think that's a Robbin Williams movie.
>What about MOBA or Character Action Game?
MOBA means Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. I've never heard Character Action Game.
>What makes a Grand Strategy game so Grand?
The scale.
>A 4X game, is it related to the beer?
It's probably not related to beer.
> I'd assume CRPG is Chinese.
why should anyone read this post let alone take it seriously
Why should anyone read any post on this website and take it seriously?
So I can get mad at 12 year olds for not knowing a fundamental subgenre of what they're even talking about
Don't get mad. I answered all your questions honestly.
>It's a portmanteau of Shoot Em' Up
Which you'll only know if you already know what it means, the genre name is just a shibboleth.
>I don't know, I've never heard those terms before.
Well it's become muddied regardless, but same point, you only know if you know.
>A Role-Playing Game.
What's that mean? You're playing a "role" in every game. Is Doom an RPG? Is Steins;Gate or Cave Story? What about Zelda or Witcher? Once again, the name itself is meaningless.
>JRPG is Japanese Role-Playing Game. WRPG is Western Role-Playing Game. I'd assume CRPG is Chinese.
CRPG actually means "Baldur's Gate clone". The only way to know, or to know what a Japanese version of an RPG even is, is to know.
>I think that's a Robbin Williams movie.
Nah, that's Blubber, close though. Blobber is a game like Might and Magic.
>MOBA means Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. I've never heard Character Action Game.
The meaning (if you can even get that from the acronym) explains nothing. Is Quake 3 a MOBA? Is WoW's Arena mode one? They're all multiplayer battles in an arena. Also: "Character Action Game" just means DMC game.
>The scale.
Lul
>It's probably not related to beer.
A shame indeed
*Flubber
>Which you'll only know if you already know what it means
This is applicable to every genre name in every medium if not every single word.
>A Role-Playing Game. What's that mean?
It's generally taken to mean a game where you immerse yourself in a role and make decisions that affect the growth of that character.
>the name itself is meaningless
It's only meaningless if you ignore what it means.
>The only way to know, is to know
Applicable to all knowledge.
>The meaning (if you can even get that from the acronym) explains nothing.
Most terms don't explain themselves, that's why definitions exist.
>Is Quake 3 a MOBA?
Quake 3 is an Arena Shooter and a First Person Shooter.
>Is WoW's Arena mode one?
I don't know, I haven't played World of Warcraft.
>just means DMC game
I haven't played DMC.
Generally yea. In this case thats blatantly false. Rogue is significantly less relevant that many roguelikes and roguelites are obviously wildly more remembered and more popular than pretty much all roguelikes combined. The Binding of Isaac is going to be remembered most likely forever as long as video games are remembered.
>The Binding of Isaac is going to be remembered
this is like saying Tenchu is going to remembered it won't
>They don't call those Doomlikes or CoDlikes, they don't call them anything at all.
Anon, you absolute silly billy- the FPS genre as whole was called "Doom Clones" for years! Quake was a "Doom Clone."
Nobody calls them that anymore. Everyone calls FPS games FPS games and they aren't restricted to making it play like a game from 30 years ago. The only thing they have in common is being first person, and a shooter. If all roguelite means is permadeath call the genre permadeath.
Roguelikes don't even have to be permadeath, moron.
>Turn based
>Grid based movement
>Procedural generation
so call them any of those things. what's the problem?
Because a Roguelike has all three. If there was a actual given name, I'd gladly swap, but there isn't.
>Because a Roguelike has all three
Not according to people who use that term. According to people who use that term it means "like rogue" which could be in any way they want however many times removed it is. Maybe you should have gatekept the genre and it wouldn't have happened.
Maybe your moronic ass should have gatekept gaming. Then modern gaming wouldn't be a shithole.
>Fps used to be "doom clones"
>GTA clone is still the name for whatever genre GTA is
>Souls-like is the name for any game where melee attacks cost stamina
The frick are you on.
>Fps used to be "doom clones"
used to be
>GTA clone is still the name for whatever genre GTA is
open world
Open world isn't a fricking genre you moron. I hope you trip down some stares and die in the lamest frickin way possible.
>The open world genre
>Skyrim
>tLoZ LttP
>GTA San Andreas.
You're the most moronic anon I've ever met, and I've been around since the pajeet.
>Open world isn't a fricking genre you moron
If Open World isn't a genre then neither is Role Playing Game or First Person Shooter
Open world is a fricking setting. Is super smash bros genre "children's imagination"?
No, Skyrim is a setting. Los Santos is a setting.
And what are Skyrim and lose Santos? Open worlds. You frickin moron. Open world literally describes your fricking level design. It's not a genre you brain dead monkey ass.
>literally describes your fricking level design
Yes, so it's not a setting. It's a mechanic. Game mechanics are what define genres.
From now on EVERY SINGLE VIDEOGAME from the most snoyglop Last of US to the most Japanese Persona dancing game is henceforth referred to as a "Pac-Manlike", no exceptions. The similarities and parallels are too obvious and self-evident so I won't insult you by elaborating.
actually Pac-Man is a Pong-like
This serves no utility. There are clear useful reasons to use roguelike and roguelite. You are autistic.
Such as? They are as much "like Rogue" as they are "like Pac-Man".
(btw wtf even is a "Rogue". Like from Dungeons and Dragons?)
>no it's this long forgotten and irrelevant text game from the 70s, let me link you this youtube documentary
fricking lmao at least Pac-Man is something people have ever heard of before
You don't need to understand the origin of the term to understand the genre. With the current state of rogue-lites its extremely obvious what it implies.
To the current cretin morons who compose the gamer subculture, "roguelike" means they are "like "roguelikes" "
Just let me mock the absurdity of the name, jesus christ it's all a gag dude.
You lost this argument a decade ago. The meaning of words changes. Relating "Rougelike" only to games exactly like Rogue makes it a functionally dead and useless term these days.
>the meaning changes
Well thankfully that isn't the case here. Hey, can you actually describe what a roguelike is? Because i can guarantee that none for the games that you consider a roguelike actually are one
>Well thankfully that isn't the case here.
According to consumers, producers, game Devs and quite literally everyone but a small handful of people on Ganker, yes it has. The accepted genre for Hades is a Roguelikes.
If you're looking for a more profitable pointless argument to dig your heels into, I suggest the "You need to call it Gnu/Linux" one. At least you can be correct there, if annoying.
Funny, you still didn't describe what a roguelike is even supposed to be.
>everyone thinks it has
Proof? The fact that everywhere seems to have debates about it means that clearly this issue that you think only exists here in tiny quantities is more widespread than you think. It's like you don't even remember when valve had this big popup on steam talking about the differences between the two during some event.
>Proof?
The store page, and literally the entire Roguelike tag... Huh, almost none of them have anything to do with Nethack at all!
And no, this isn't some ongoing debate, this is just a handful of morons and autists arguing something they lost a decade ago. Once again, I direct you to refocus your pointlessly enthusiasm into obsessing about getting people to call it "Gnu/Linux", you may lose that argument too, but at least you're correct!
Calm down. You sound like the kind of guy who repeatedly punches himself when stressed or frustrated.
Just because a moron cracked his head on the pavement doesn't mean I should.
>Rougelike is any game with permadeath
So real life is a rougelike?
It's not "one moron", it's the whole industry, you lost this argument a decade ago. It's time to let go and to refocus your meaningless autism somewhere else
You can read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
Why the frick is this Black person bringing up Linux not just once accidentally but multiple times deliberately.
I'm trying to help these ancient morons refocus their energy away from a useless, lost argument that exists only to derail threads, and into something slightly more productive.
If you want a pointless, autistic argument to dig your heels in, that one is way better than this "No true Roguelike" shit.
Guacameleevanialite
Steam had this big event where one of the main articles had this fricking essay talking about the differences between the two, and you still think this discussion only happens on random unused shitholes like a dead forum. Even plebbit has this kind of discussion.
you probably don't see games like nethack on steam because early roguelikes were free and open-source, not because people don't know what they are
A very boring and repetitive game.
A roguelike that is boring to replay AKA shit
people say this is like Diablo but it's not like Diablo at all
it's actiony diablo, like nox or victor vran
Nox isn't like Diablo.
A genuine contender for game of the year when it came out, it was fantastic fun. I give it about a 9/10
fun
and failure is still a step towards success. no run is a waste of your time.
A highly polished game with the approximate depth of a puddle.
Genuinely fun game with an impressive amount of reactive dialogue, but man do I hope that the sequel has more biome and boss variety.
I remember being hyped for this shit but then played it and realised it has one of the worst combat in the genre. It's a "I ignored the most crucial aspect of the game and focused on everything else" the game.
pretty much. Once I figured out that dash attacks were fricking broken because they made you functionally invincible + stunlocking everything I dropped the game
a 7/10 or 8/10 rogue lite that people pretend is a 10/10 for whatever reason. Probably the most accessible one to get into. Kinda feels weak on content compared to something like isaac but its still fun. Great voice work, lots of lines, combat feels good.
A really fun, addicting game that won't stick with you for too long, but will be a very fun ride while you're playing it.
Unfortunately, it's usually hard to discuss here since everyone on Ganker is a super elite expert gamer who beat it on their first run and beat it on Heat 20 shortly after. So you'll tend to get a lot of posts along those lines.
Funny enough, the "Harder" version of most of the bosses are actually easier to deal with
>Introduce Hades to my brother
>He's wary of it, not into Roguelikes, tries it at my insistence
>Dies in Tartarus, as expected
>Does so again another few times
>Interest going towards rock bottom, telling me it's just not his kinda game, doing the same thing over with a thin margin of error, it's fine but not his style
>One more run
>Gets the Cursed Slash upgrade, 60% less HP, but can heal with each hit
>Margin for error suddenly much larger, can outright tank through some damage
>Cruises through Tartarus and Asphodel in one go, gets through most of Elysium before finally getting overwhelmed
>Suddenly bursting with renewed interest, enjoying the game, giving it an honest chance
>Ends up loving it, buys it himself, plays it to completion and maxes out Heat
It's funny how it goes sometimes, that one run can just really sell you on the game.
Shame the character designs are such garbage outside Hades, Zagreus, Nyx, Persephone and Thanatos. Aphrodite's and Athena's is outright offensive when they're supposed to be the most beautiful Gods of all
The combat is boring. I don’t know how anyone stuck with it.
Fantastic characters and voice acting are the main standouts for it. The gameplay is pretty addicting but eventually you get tired of the repetition.
The same levels over and over. People hailed this like the next coming of vidya jesus but all I got is an introduction of rogue-like.
homosexual game
A shitty, overrated, game that does nothing better than even the most mediocre roguelites available on the market.
never played it because the art style was very homosexual, shit looks like Dream Daddy.
I'm going to start calling VNs "Dream Daddy clones."
A boring piece of shit, like any other rogue like.
Overrated reddit shit for trannies and cucks
What is your favorite Oriandtheblindforesvania?
Rabi Ribi and it is not even close
>Removes Metroid, a series where every single game is a Metroidlike
>Keeps Castlevania, where only a handful of games are Metroidlikes
For what purpose?
I played the game and beat hades one.
I hated the whole experience after about 20 hours.
The characters all talking in monotone bland british is also soul crushingly boring.
Over hyped and i don't see why it's getting a 2nd game.
My favorite Guacameleelike these days is Fortnite, probably second favorite is Rocket League.
>IP count didn't increase
Huh, must be bugged
Yeah I've posted in this same thread before, what of it.
Escape From Tarkov is a roguelike
Shoot Them All Up
a lot of clicking
Looking forward to the sequel
A good game thats behind some real gay ass fricking homosexual community that can't stop sucking dicks and can't stop talking about the designs in the game that were made to appeal to them.
If you look past that though it's pretty good. I pirated it jsut because I knew that any dev who would put out such blatant gaybait in their shit doesn't get my money
one of the better post-rogues
I went back and played Bastion afterwards, and I think Bastion is better overall for anyone who doesn't really dig the repetitive nature of roguelites. Not only is there more weapon variety and I like how you can have two at a time to really mix and match. Properly executed and deliberate level design will always be superior compared to randomness. It's also great having a story and narration that is genuine instead of a bunch of sarcasm. Zia's theme is also the best song I think they have done